An Open Letter To Senator Carper

[Dread Pirate Roberts]

Sen. Carper,

In response to your recent statement on the re-launch of Silk Road, I’d like to thank you for expressing your views. I am impressed by your understanding of the issues at hand, and realize that in comparison to the views of your fellow political leaders, yours may have put you in a somewhat radical position. Rather than repeating the opinions systematically generated by most State authorities, you have spoken openly and sincerely for and on behalf of the people of the United States of America; you belong to a minority of people willing to openly suggest that Silk Road’s development is actually a change in the right direction – even if, as it stands right now, my enterprise remains illegal. For this, you should be applauded.

I would like to clarify what Silk Road represents. Contrary to popular belief, it does not represent drugs; nor does it represent the trade of illegal goods. Rather, it represents the freedom which people all over the world have begged for, fought for and even died for throughout history. It is these people who have made the ultimate sacrifice in helping us build a free, prospering society; to help us prosper in times of tyranny, oppression, war and danger; to give us the power to act responsibly according to the dictates of our own conscience. And these generations will have my deepest gratitude and respect for as long as I live.

I believe that right now, we are living in a society where our enemy is no longer foreign, but domestic. And I feel it is therefore appropriate to highlight the first part of the Oath of Enlistment:

"I, _____, do solemnly swear that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic"

With the NSA spying on the entire world, and with hundreds of thousands of prisoners sitting in a jail cell for the possession of a plant mankind has had access to for thousands of years, I believe that our country – which once was held as the pinnacle of the Human Rights movement – is now subtly becoming one of the greatest oppressors this world has ever seen.

Therefore, I hereby call on Congress to assess the best interests of the people they claim to represent, and to hold accountable those who are now a domestic threat to the freedoms of these people.

I may represent the largest illegal marketplace in the world. I may also be a target of various law enforcement agencies. But nonetheless, I extend an invitation both to you directly, and to anybody else willing to stand up for what is true and right: if you would like to engage with me in objective discussion or debate, I will happily oblige. Furthermore, if the appropriate authorities were able to guarantee me my safety and immunity against prosecution, I would gladly remove my mask and blow open the gates of fair discussion on policy reform.

The time where governments can ignore their people is fast drawing to an end, and the authorities who still believe this ignorance can continue unhindered are misguided.

I want to make a positive change for the world we all live in. And I know it is possible, if only enough people are willing to step away from bigoted political views, and look at certain policies anew. Already the profits of Silk Road are being diverted to worthwhile charities, good causes, and organizations involved in the development of new, innovative technologies – those opposing such causes and organizations are doing nothing more than opposing freedom and suppressing freedom of speech, and although we both agree that our security is of high priority, what good is security that does not allow us our freedom? A fair balance between both security and freedom can, and must, be found.

I would like to complete this letter by articulating my perspective on the trajectory of policy to legalize domestic spying in the name of national security. Such policy is a catastrophic error. When the people know their government is watching, they are scared to voice their opinions openly, and either seek and discover new means of doing so, or lose their identities – and those with lost identities are those who end up as nothing more than empty shells of violence and anger. I do not condone violence, and I do not wish for either violence or anger. Nor do I wish to ever see the day we must march against our government in order to oust them – I, and the community that supports me, would prefer to see peaceful reform based on fair, balanced discussion over any of the less desirable alternatives. But, as the people, we see our liberty as a right, not a privilege, and must do whatever is necessary to maintain this.

Yours in liberty,

Dread Pirate Roberts

[broken string]

Just logged in to see if anything cool happened and saw this; I think it's good to address these things rather than watch and whine, especially with asshats like Carper.

EDIT: Don't forget to email Carper about this and let him know this exists. (clearnet)
http://www.carper.senate.gov/public/index.cfm/email-senator-carper

[bbkf]

Just please let US spread this around, you have a site to run.

[crackerbarrel]

Bravo!! You, sir, are a true champion for god-given liberties that some are trying to strip under the guise that it is "for your protection". 

Peace, brother in cause...

[Cailieg]

Another absolutely brilliantly written statement. My dear Dread Pirate Roberts you are a gem and a wonder, and it is an absolute pleasure to read what you write, you truly are a well spoken individual.

Kudos and thank you dear sir,
Cailieg

[Orion]

Now no one can say Dread Pirate Roberts did not give them the chance!

[ManInTheMirror]

Amen.

[Baggie]

Absolutely wonderful DPR! If there is someone that they will listen to then it has to be you.

This is something that has been much needed for some time. As said by you before, We really do not want violence to be the means of us gaining liberty. Much love DPR!

~Baggie

[jakeyblues1987]

DPR...how can you trust a politicians word? they will promise you and then slap the cuffs on you. Thats are greasy government. Please dont be an example...stay anonymous

[wishihada2jz]

Beautiful words from a noble man who believes a cause is more important than his own liberty. This country was founded by men of the same character.

[Fistingfedz]

im seeing great changes in the near future! not getting too naive though

[flwrchlds9]

From Wikipedia;

Senator Carper:

Protecting Cyberspace as a National Asset Act
Carper co-wrote the "Protecting Cyberspace as a National Asset Act of 2010"[12] introduced on June 19, 2010, by Senator Joe Lieberman (Senator Susan Collins is the third co-author of this bill). If signed into law, this controversial bill, which the American media dubbed the "Kill switch bill", would grant the President emergency powers over the Internet. All three co-authors of the bill, however, issued a statement claiming that instead, the bill "[narrowed] existing broad Presidential authority to take over telecommunications networks".[13] Carper was quoted as saying that the bill “would create a National Center for Cybersecurity and Communications in the Department of Homeland Security, with a Senate-confirmed director to oversee security of the federal government’s computer networks. The center would also identify vulnerabilities and help secure key private networks – like utilities and communications systems – that, if attacked or commandeered by a foreign power or cyberterrorists, could result in the crippling of our economy.”[14]

Don think the comment reported  is positive as some are take it.

[Yoda]

From Wikipedia;

Senator Carper:

Protecting Cyberspace as a National Asset Act
Carper co-wrote the "Protecting Cyberspace as a National Asset Act of 2010"[12] introduced on June 19, 2010, by Senator Joe Lieberman (Senator Susan Collins is the third co-author of this bill). If signed into law, this controversial bill, which the American media dubbed the "Kill switch bill", would grant the President emergency powers over the Internet. All three co-authors of the bill, however, issued a statement claiming that instead, the bill "[narrowed] existing broad Presidential authority to take over telecommunications networks".[13] Carper was quoted as saying that the bill “would create a National Center for Cybersecurity and Communications in the Department of Homeland Security, with a Senate-confirmed director to oversee security of the federal government’s computer networks. The center would also identify vulnerabilities and help secure key private networks – like utilities and communications systems – that, if attacked or commandeered by a foreign power or cyberterrorists, could result in the crippling of our economy.”[14]

Don think the comment reported  is positive as some are take it.

/agreed

Yeah, I don't think this guy is our friend.

[weather420]

How about writing an official letter or having someone forward this post in your name?.I am not defending Carper's support of the Protecting Cyberspace as a National Asset Act,but everyone should realize that most of our politicians simply sign off on  various legislative bills, which are written by lobbyists...Who knows, the tide has definitely changed within the United States regarding the War on Drugs. Repeal of the Mandatory Minimum criminal sentences is on the verge of occuring. 30% of the DOJ's budget is directed towards incarceration. I could see the US going the route of Portugal. Just don't respond to any invitation to testify at a hearing DPR...

[batin]

I hope the government cause more problems and stifle growth and freedom just because they can't stop us from enjoying our liberty regardless of the prohibitions they lay before us. We are the people, and we want freedom!

[Breaking Dab]

So hard to find politicians like this even though we all know PROHIBITION IS WORSE

[Dread Pirate Roberts]

To clarify my purpose, I am not applauding his past work or overall aims other than the message, I am applauding the idea it is time to rediscuss the issue. Right now, any discussion is better than the blank response we get from them usually and the fact they are acting means we are getting to them.

[wetdog]

Regardless of Senator Carpers views, the views stated by DPR are what makes this community great.  Our views vary and are different sometimes, but the view stated in this thread is nearly universal here and outside of this community.  This is exactly why i love this place.  I initially came here to buy small quantities of drugs safely and anonymously, but i have stayed here because of the community.  When is the government going to wake up!  Or when are the people going to stand up?!  I have a feeling these two things will coincide.  The money and heartache expended on the war on drugs is criminal.  Any original good intent that was there when this started is gone.  It is now an obvious and criminal power trip.  I am not anarchist, i am not left, and i am not right.  I am sick and fucking tired of complete power hungry strangers punishing my fellow citizens and threatening to punish me for catching a slight buzz after a hard days work.  Get the fuck out of my business and mind your own.  Quit wasting my fucking money and use it like the founding fathers intended.  If the members of our government had any balls they would be on our side because i know the majority of them partake in their substances of choice just as much as any of us.  Please wake the fuck up and do what is right for a change.  You are inflicting pain and suffering on a daily basis on your fellow citizens.  If you would look into things just a little bit you would realize that they are so much like you and your loved ones its scary.  Put your mind and our money to work solving real problems instead of fighting a war you cannot win.  You spent 2 1/2 years and god only knows how much money chasing Ross.  Now you have caught him and locked up and completely wasted a very bright and capable citizen.  And for what?? so for a month all of us had to go to Sheep, BMR, or one of many other similar sites.  Now we have our Silk Road back, and the community never divided.  Quit wasting your time and our money.  Please be better than this and do what is right.  If you have any balls at all i dare you to engage DPR in a debate.  I guarantee you one of two things will happen.  His arguments will make you look as stupid as you are acting, or you will find common ground and real progress can be made.  DO IT!  What have you got to lose.  We are here anonymously so you can't inflict pain and suffering on us.  You are here hiding in the shadows and not speaking your true points of view.  If you are with the government or law enforcement and you are on here reading this then speak up.  Let's hear your side of the argument.  You are the ones who are on here and hiding.  Let's hear what you have to say.  You won't do it because your argument won't hold water.  If you think it will then lets hear from you.  I am not very politically active normally but DPR has gotten me all fired up because he is so obviously right.  Thank god this community is here and standing up for what is right.

[The Rebellion]

this is history.

[Agent]

How can we the public show our support of the idea that is SilkRoad ?

A lot of people here are jumping up and down that they can now buy drugs over the Internet, but what can others like me do that want to help the cause and message that SilkRoad tries to spread and display with its community ? Is there anything the public could do to show the media and government that they support what SilkRoad stands for and it will look less like DPR is on their own.

[dev-null]

“This new website – launched barely a month after Federal agents shut down the original Silk Road -- underscores the inescapable reality that technology is dynamic and ever-evolving and that government policy needs to adapt accordingly. Rather than play ‘whack-a-mole’ with the latest website,  currency, or other method criminals are using in an effort to evade the law, we need to develop thoughtful, nimble and sensible federal policies that protect the public without stifling innovation and economic growth. Our committee intends to have that conversation – among others - at our hearing this month on virtual currency.”


Translation: "We cannot win a war against an invisible foe, let's stop chasing ghosts and pretend we are keeping people safe by shutting down a website, instead let's concentrate on changing outdated government policy; start treating drug addiction as a disease, not a crime. Not everyone who is currently breaking the law should be treated as a criminal. Instead let's see how we can get out of this disastrous economic mess my fellow politicians and I have gotten our country into and perhaps I can help legalize some of these drugs within my lifetime so I can hopefully do some myself. Oh yeah and the NSA should be mining Bitcoins."

[X]

I'm reminded of the portion of the Declaration of Independence in which the Founders reminded the world that they had sought many, many peaceful resolutions to tyranny and oppression. This is the time when we must build our portfolio of attempts at peaceful reconciliation with our oppressors, so that when the day finally comes when we must make our Declaration of Anonymity we, like the Founders, will have an impressive list of failed and reasonable attempts at peace. DPR, you are truly transcendent over your predecessor, thank you on many, many levels.

[Baggie]

Regardless of Senator Carpers views, the views stated by DPR are what makes this community great.  Our views vary and are different sometimes, but the view stated in this thread is nearly universal here and outside of this community.  This is exactly why i love this place.  I initially came here to buy small quantities of drugs safely and anonymously, but i have stayed here because of the community.  When is the government going to wake up!  Or when are the people going to stand up?!  I have a feeling these two things will coincide.  The money and heartache expended on the war on drugs is criminal.  Any original good intent that was there when this started is gone.  It is now an obvious and criminal power trip.  I am not anarchist, i am not left, and i am not right.  I am sick and fucking tired of complete power hungry strangers punishing my fellow citizens and threatening to punish me for catching a slight buzz after a hard days work.  Get the fuck out of my business and mind your own.  Quit wasting my fucking money and use it like the founding fathers intended.  If the members of our government had any balls they would be on our side because i know the majority of them partake in their substances of choice just as much as any of us.  Please wake the fuck up and do what is right for a change.  You are inflicting pain and suffering on a daily basis on your fellow citizens.  If you would look into things just a little bit you would realize that they are so much like you and your loved ones its scary.  Put your mind and our money to work solving real problems instead of fighting a war you cannot win.  You spent 2 1/2 years and god only knows how much money chasing Ross.  Now you have caught him and locked up and completely wasted a very bright and capable citizen.  And for what?? so for a month all of us had to go to Sheep, BMR, or one of many other similar sites.  Now we have our Silk Road back, and the community never divided.  Quit wasting your time and our money.  Please be better than this and do what is right.  If you have any balls at all i dare you to engage DPR in a debate.  I guarantee you one of two things will happen.  His arguments will make you look as stupid as you are acting, or you will find common ground and real progress can be made.  DO IT!  What have you got to lose.  We are here anonymously so you can't inflict pain and suffering on us.  You are here hiding in the shadows and not speaking your true points of view.  If you are with the government or law enforcement and you are on here reading this then speak up.  Let's hear your side of the argument.  You are the ones who are on here and hiding.  Let's hear what you have to say.  You won't do it because your argument won't hold water.  If you think it will then lets hear from you.  I am not very politically active normally but DPR has gotten me all fired up because he is so obviously right.  Thank god this community is here and standing up for what is right.

+1 to you brother!

[dev-null]

How can we the public show our support of the idea that is SilkRoad ?

A lot of people here are jumping up and down that they can now buy drugs over the Internet, but what can others like me do that want to help the cause and message that SilkRoad tries to spread and display with its community ? Is there anything the public could do to show the media and government that they support what SilkRoad stands for and it will look less like DPR is on their own.

Because SR is known as an illegal drug marketplace, and drugs are currently illegal. Whether you agree with the fact that drugs should be or should not be illegal, they are and you cannot use SR as an example for such an idea.

I don't think it's realistically possible for the masses to equate SR with "freedom", at least the freedom you want people to be excited about. Joe blow isn't driving on his way to work thinking how oppressed he is by his damn government and then think "wait a second there is this pinnacle of freedom known as the Silk Road on the onion network, there is still hope!"

HOWEVER I feel SR is monumental in getting the media, government and people alike to continue the discussion of the legalization on drugs. IF and when that happens I no doubt will see SR be held with high regards throughout the country and possibly the world as having played a major role on winning the war on support of drugs.

[dev-null]

I'm reminded of the portion of the Declaration of Independence in which the Founders reminded the world that they had sought many, many peaceful resolutions to tyranny and oppression. This is the time when we must build our portfolio of attempts at peaceful reconciliation with our oppressors, so that when the day finally comes when we must make our Declaration of Anonymity we, like the Founders, will have an impressive list of failed and reasonable attempts at peace. DPR, you are truly transcendent over your predecessor, thank you on many, many levels.

The founders were wealthy land and slave owners. "We The People" was nothing more than a way to bring those inferior to them to their side. I love good old Benjamin and Thomas, don't get me wrong, but they weren't trying to make a better world for you and me, they were out for themselves and in the process well....here we are

[fuckthishoe]

To the senator:: A letter response is always welcomed Sir

[Great God Pan]

Amen to DPR's letter.  The principles outlined are why I'm here.

[kaliforniaProducts]

very classy. the new SR appears to be carrying the torch properly.

[anontoker]

How can we the public show our support of the idea that is SilkRoad ?

A lot of people here are jumping up and down that they can now buy drugs over the Internet, but what can others like me do that want to help the cause and message that SilkRoad tries to spread and display with its community ? Is there anything the public could do to show the media and government that they support what SilkRoad stands for and it will look less like DPR is on their own.

I've been wondering this same thing myself.
All I can say here is I have in a way supported the idea in my real life.
Additionally, I have gotten positive feedback from other people about the idea.

And by idea I mean the reduction of drug related crime.
It's certainly reduced the risk for me, for anything I would ever possibly want really.

[ENP]

How can we the public show our support of the idea that is SilkRoad ?

A lot of people here are jumping up and down that they can now buy drugs over the Internet, but what can others like me do that want to help the cause and message that SilkRoad tries to spread and display with its community ? Is there anything the public could do to show the media and government that they support what SilkRoad stands for and it will look less like DPR is on their own.

I would say to get active and support organizations that are actively against prohibition. That sort of thing. We can all be activists.

[DoctorClu]

Very well said, Cap. I look forward to whatever response he may return.

[Hedgewitch]

*curtsies to the Cap'n*

Bravo, Sir.

[Nightcrawler]

How can we the public show our support of the idea that is SilkRoad ?

A lot of people here are jumping up and down that they can now buy drugs over the Internet, but what can others like me do that want to help the cause and message that SilkRoad tries to spread and display with its community ? Is there anything the public could do to show the media and government that they support what SilkRoad stands for and it will look less like DPR is on their own.

I would say to get active and support organizations that are actively against prohibition. That sort of thing. We can all be activists.

If one thinks back a few years to the arrest and imprisonment of Marc Emery, the reasons for going after Emery were telling. The DEA targeted Emery because the bulk of the money his seed selling business made was funneled to various Marijuana Parties and other organizations promoting legalization or decriminalization.  Emery selling some quantity of seeds by mail was not a threat -- the real threat came from the fact that he was empowering people to press for social change, i.e. legalization or decriminalization of marijuana. 

Nightcrawler
4096R/BBF7433B 2012-09-22 Nightcrawler <Nightcrawler@SR>
PGP Key Fingerprint = D870 C6AC CC6E 46B0 E0C7  3955 B8F1 D88E BBF7 433B

Security is a bit like religion... some things have to be taken on faith.
Where security differs from religion is that security is NOT retroactive.
Unlike Christianity, where you can come to Jesus, be 'saved' and have all
your sins washed away, with security you can adopt Tails or PGP, and be
secure from that point forward, but rest assured that your previous sins
(security failings) WILL come back to haunt you and bite you in the ass.
The original DPR is the poster child for that, right now.

[lightshinesthrough]

Yeah this is cool. Even if it's hard to get 'them' open their thinking caps, at least one can challenge them to do so . . .

[Hedgewitch]

How can we the public show our support of the idea that is SilkRoad ?

A lot of people here are jumping up and down that they can now buy drugs over the Internet, but what can others like me do that want to help the cause and message that SilkRoad tries to spread and display with its community ? Is there anything the public could do to show the media and government that they support what SilkRoad stands for and it will look less like DPR is on their own.

I would say to get active and support organizations that are actively against prohibition. That sort of thing. We can all be activists.

If one thinks back a few years to the arrest and imprisonment of Marc Emery, the reasons for going after Emery were telling. The DEA targeted Emery because the bulk of the money his seed selling business made was funneled to various Marijuana Parties and other organizations promoting legalization or decriminalization.  Emery selling some quantity of seeds by mail was not a threat -- the real threat came from the fact that he was empowering people to press for social change, i.e. legalization or decriminalization of marijuana. 

Nightcrawler
4096R/BBF7433B 2012-09-22 Nightcrawler <Nightcrawler@SR>
PGP Key Fingerprint = D870 C6AC CC6E 46B0 E0C7  3955 B8F1 D88E BBF7 433B

Security is a bit like religion... some things have to be taken on faith.
Where security differs from religion is that security is NOT retroactive.
Unlike Christianity, where you can come to Jesus, be 'saved' and have all
your sins washed away, with security you can adopt Tails or PGP, and be
secure from that point forward, but rest assured that your previous sins
(security failings) WILL come back to haunt you and bite you in the ass.
The original DPR is the poster child for that, right now.

If you wish to campaign for the legalisation of cannabis, you should get in touch with, join and support NORML - *CLEARNET* http://norml.org/

They also have subdivisions such as NORML UK - *CLEARNET* http://norml-uk.org/

I'm afraid I don't currently have to hand a list of other pro-reform organisations in regards to drugs other than cannabis, but NORML is a good place to start.

[DoctorFreedom]

History in the making, right here!

[ProEvo]

Really well said DPR. I also take my hat off and salutr you and the lads on yesterdays launch. The tireless work you put in round the clock will one day pay dividends and we can be free.

Keep up the good work.

[downlight]

Great words, makes me proud to be a part of this community !

[flwrchlds9]

Translation: "We cannot win a war against an invisible foe, let's stop chasing ghosts and pretend we are keeping people safe by shutting down a website, instead let's concentrate on changing outdated government policy; start treating drug addiction as a disease, not a crime. Not everyone who is currently breaking the law should be treated as a criminal. Instead let's see how we can get out of this disastrous economic mess my fellow politicians and I have gotten our country into and perhaps I can help legalize some of these drugs within my lifetime so I can hopefully do some myself. Oh yeah and the NSA should be mining Bitcoins."

"underscores the inescapable reality that technology is dynamic and ever-evolving and that government policy needs to adapt accordingly."

More likely translation: "We need to make the foe visible and adapt by adding new TOOLS to combat these threats."

[marcouse]

anyone whacked this on this twitter yet? No garuntee he will see it here?

[burn your fucking flag]

I am super impressed DPR. This is the side of Silk Road that is really important.
  This should get equal billing with the drugs and OPSEC,
from us, the media and the authorities.
You sound like a man who has come to terms with the weight and responsibility you are now carrying and have a clear sense of direction. Stand tall and allow yourself a little pride, because you are FUCKIN RULING today!
Do yourself and us all a favour and be sure to eat healthy and meditate often..... It's the only way to stay awake, aware, mindful and on the ball.
Good luck, if you are doing all you say you are and believe wholeheartedly in what you've written on hear then you are, and will always be remembered as a champion for humanity.

[ManInTheMirror]

How can we the public show our support of the idea that is SilkRoad ?

A lot of people here are jumping up and down that they can now buy drugs over the Internet, but what can others like me do that want to help the cause and message that SilkRoad tries to spread and display with its community ? Is there anything the public could do to show the media and government that they support what SilkRoad stands for and it will look less like DPR is on their own.

I would say to get active and support organizations that are actively against prohibition. That sort of thing. We can all be activists.

If one thinks back a few years to the arrest and imprisonment of Marc Emery, the reasons for going after Emery were telling. The DEA targeted Emery because the bulk of the money his seed selling business made was funneled to various Marijuana Parties and other organizations promoting legalization or decriminalization.  Emery selling some quantity of seeds by mail was not a threat -- the real threat came from the fact that he was empowering people to press for social change, i.e. legalization or decriminalization of marijuana. 

Nightcrawler
4096R/BBF7433B 2012-09-22 Nightcrawler <Nightcrawler@SR>
PGP Key Fingerprint = D870 C6AC CC6E 46B0 E0C7  3955 B8F1 D88E BBF7 433B

Security is a bit like religion... some things have to be taken on faith.
Where security differs from religion is that security is NOT retroactive.
Unlike Christianity, where you can come to Jesus, be 'saved' and have all
your sins washed away, with security you can adopt Tails or PGP, and be
secure from that point forward, but rest assured that your previous sins
(security failings) WILL come back to haunt you and bite you in the ass.
The original DPR is the poster child for that, right now.

This is what I belive as well. The greater threat to them is the ideology not the drugs send by mail.
The threat of empowerement of the people and the fear that people find out there is a much better way to protect the public.

[MrPharmacist]

My sentiments exactly DPR.

Why do they think millions of us have retreated to the dark web?  It's not just about buying drugs.  It's to be a part of an online community where everything we say isn't kept on file and linked to our 'real life' identities, where it could potentially (and probably) be used against us one day.

Prohibition is the CAUSE.  Silk Road is the EFFECT.

Nuff said,

Mr P x

[Heisenberg2.0]

If one thinks back a few years to the arrest and imprisonment of Marc Emery, the reasons for going after Emery were telling. The DEA targeted Emery because the bulk of the money his seed selling business made was funneled to various Marijuana Parties and other organizations promoting legalization or decriminalization.  Emery selling some quantity of seeds by mail was not a threat -- the real threat came from the fact that he was empowering people to press for social change, i.e. legalization or decriminalization of marijuana. 

Nightcrawler
4096R/BBF7433B 2012-09-22 Nightcrawler <Nightcrawler@SR>
PGP Key Fingerprint = D870 C6AC CC6E 46B0 E0C7  3955 B8F1 D88E BBF7 433B

Security is a bit like religion... some things have to be taken on faith.
Where security differs from religion is that security is NOT retroactive.
Unlike Christianity, where you can come to Jesus, be 'saved' and have all
your sins washed away, with security you can adopt Tails or PGP, and be
secure from that point forward, but rest assured that your previous sins
(security failings) WILL come back to haunt you and bite you in the ass.
The original DPR is the poster child for that, right now.

That is very true and one of the reasons I decided to make this a cause I support.

You only have to look at the monumental change in US cannabis policy at state level to see that his policy's worked, People and states made up their own mind and most the "reefer madness" myths are now just....myths. Emery was literally made one of the most wanted men in the world because he gave all profits from his seed sales to charity's and organizations which fund cannabis policy reform! (DEA now openly admit this in released papers if you read his partners blog)

THAT is why they went after him and not for the illegality and the same will be true for DPR unless they make a HUGE U turn which I believe could be just around the corner if we can get behind the right people and causes.  *cough cough

I love that the new DPR's heart is in the right place, I don't expect you will get a response but let them be the ones to stay quiet and back down when presented with the opportunity for dialog and honest discussion.

¡Viva la Revolución!

[Sir William Wonka]

If one thinks back a few years to the arrest and imprisonment of Marc Emery, the reasons for going after Emery were telling. The DEA targeted Emery because the bulk of the money his seed selling business made was funneled to various Marijuana Parties and other organizations promoting legalization or decriminalization.  Emery selling some quantity of seeds by mail was not a threat -- the real threat came from the fact that he was empowering people to press for social change, i.e. legalization or decriminalization of marijuana. 

Nightcrawler
4096R/BBF7433B 2012-09-22 Nightcrawler <Nightcrawler@SR>
PGP Key Fingerprint = D870 C6AC CC6E 46B0 E0C7  3955 B8F1 D88E BBF7 433B

Security is a bit like religion... some things have to be taken on faith.
Where security differs from religion is that security is NOT retroactive.
Unlike Christianity, where you can come to Jesus, be 'saved' and have all
your sins washed away, with security you can adopt Tails or PGP, and be
secure from that point forward, but rest assured that your previous sins
(security failings) WILL come back to haunt you and bite you in the ass.
The original DPR is the poster child for that, right now.

That is very true and one of the reasons I decided to make this a cause I support.

You only have to look at the monumental change in US cannabis policy at state level to see that his policy's worked, People and states made up their own mind and most the "reefer madness" myths are now just....myths. Emery was literally made one of the most wanted men in the world because he gave all profits from his seed sales to charity's and organizations which fund cannabis policy reform! (DEA now openly admit this in released papers if you read his partners blog)

THAT is why they went after him and not for the illegality and the same will be true for DPR unless they make a HUGE U turn which I believe could be just around the corner if we can get behind the right people and causes.  *cough cough

I love that the new DPR's heart is in the right place, I don't expect you will get a response but let them be the ones to stay quiet and back down when presented with the opportunity for dialog and honest discussion.

¡Viva la Revolución!

Maybe change the name of your blog buddy since atlantis stole from people

[Jones909]

I have never been one to fall in behind leaders of causes but to you, sir,  I can offer my unqualified support.

[monkey228]

wow that was great DPR! This is exactly what this "war on drugs" (which has become a war on freedom and a war on people, not criminals!) needs to become a discussion - its needs a face, a person on the "drug" side, a person on the freedom side. And this is just ingenious! - A man behind the worlds biggest dark net drug market is speaking openly, saying that his actions are a courageous attempt to fight the oppressive and unconstitutional rules and actions of government. Furthermore he is willing to engage in an intelligent discussion with the government about drugs, incarceration of non violent criminals, spying, personal freedom and rights of every man.
Well we might finally have a real leader on the drug side of "war on drugs". DPR has all the drugs, he is intelligent and although he is anonymous he is not hiding, he is fighting (without violence), he is loud and he cant be ignored.

[Agent]

How can we the public show our support of the idea that is SilkRoad ?

A lot of people here are jumping up and down that they can now buy drugs over the Internet, but what can others like me do that want to help the cause and message that SilkRoad tries to spread and display with its community ? Is there anything the public could do to show the media and government that they support what SilkRoad stands for and it will look less like DPR is on their own.

I would say to get active and support organizations that are actively against prohibition. That sort of thing. We can all be activists.

If one thinks back a few years to the arrest and imprisonment of Marc Emery, the reasons for going after Emery were telling. The DEA targeted Emery because the bulk of the money his seed selling business made was funneled to various Marijuana Parties and other organizations promoting legalization or decriminalization.  Emery selling some quantity of seeds by mail was not a threat -- the real threat came from the fact that he was empowering people to press for social change, i.e. legalization or decriminalization of marijuana. 

Nightcrawler
4096R/BBF7433B 2012-09-22 Nightcrawler <Nightcrawler@SR>
PGP Key Fingerprint = D870 C6AC CC6E 46B0 E0C7  3955 B8F1 D88E BBF7 433B

Security is a bit like religion... some things have to be taken on faith.
Where security differs from religion is that security is NOT retroactive.
Unlike Christianity, where you can come to Jesus, be 'saved' and have all
your sins washed away, with security you can adopt Tails or PGP, and be
secure from that point forward, but rest assured that your previous sins
(security failings) WILL come back to haunt you and bite you in the ass.
The original DPR is the poster child for that, right now.

So the simplest way for the mass public to help would be to fund projects that would help the public ?

DPR already has a post up describing this and talks of helping the Tor Project and EFF organizations as such but what about others that are more focused on changing the laws or making people aware that the government is using fear to control us ?

I'm looking for ways to show the community that they to can support the message that DPR is trying to bring forward with SilkRoad.

[Heisenberg2.0]

Maybe change the name of your blog buddy since atlantis stole from people

Me included if you count time and energy but works are in progress surrounding that.

[YOULUbe]

DPR saying you are going to reveal yourself if the government pinky swears not to attack you is fucking retarded, really why would you even suggest that. The government will throw you in a detention camp and no one will ever hear from you again.

Please get off your soapbox and go back into the shadows. Its all this egoflipping bullshit that made us doubt last DPR and it turns out we were right.

[YOULUbe]

DPR saying you are going to reveal yourself if the government pinky swears not to attack you is fucking retarded, really why would you even suggest that. The government will throw you in a detention camp and no one will ever hear from you again.

Please get off your soapbox and go back into the shadows. Its all this egoflipping bullshit that made us doubt last DPR and it turns out we were right.

speaking of getting off of soapboxes, why don't you go and lube your asshole and get ready for your next bit of cock.

thats one of the gayest things ive heard in a while. goes well with your avatar.

[AliceInWonderland]

DPR saying you are going to reveal yourself if the government pinky swears not to attack you is fucking retarded, really why would you even suggest that. The government will throw you in a detention camp and no one will ever hear from you again.

I think that it is quite clear that they would never make that promise. And if they actually did, and then turned around and detained him, it would be a pr nightmare that they could never even dream of being able to spin into something possitive. I actually think this was a quite clever proposal, as it will show how dirty their morality is.
This message also shows how afraid they are to engage in an actual debate on these matters.
I don't think they will even dare to respond to this message, and if they should do it all the same, they will quite certainly flaunt their faulty ideology in such a manner that they will be loosing loads of support among those intelligent individuals, that is still supporting them out of pure mis-information.

I say well played Captain.

Please get off your soapbox and go back into the shadows. Its all this egoflipping bullshit that made us doubt last DPR and it turns out we were right.

Lol, going back into the sahdows will not accomplice anything worth mentioning.

A lot of us are here for the revolution, and in order to make that revolution happen we need to get up in their faces, with well articulated arguments which they cannot possibly refute!

They love to put a label on us, as being imoral, greedy, evil, and a whole fuore of nasty things.
This serves to show them that they are wrong on all their faulty presumptions, and will somehow force them to re-evaluate their believes, unless they want to be percieved as biggots, or faulty idealists!

We need to force them to re-evaluate everything that they think they know about us, and our cause, and we cannot do that unless we somehow show ourselves and argue against their lies, and mis-information.

[YOULUbe]

DPR saying you are going to reveal yourself if the government pinky swears not to attack you is fucking retarded, really why would you even suggest that. The government will throw you in a detention camp and no one will ever hear from you again.

I think that it is quite clear that they would never make that promise. And if they actually did, and then turned around and detained him, it would be a pr nightmare that they could never even dream of being able to spin into something possitive. I actually think this was a quite clever proposal, as it will show how dirty their morality is.
This message also shows how afraid they are to engage in an actual debate on these matters.
I don't think they will even dare to respond to this message, and if they should do it all the same, they will quite certainly flaunt their faulty ideology in such a manner that they will be loosing loads of support among those intelligent individuals, that is still supporting them out of pure mis-information.

I say well played Captain.

I could cite numerous examples of the government doing this but i am not your teacher.

Please get off your soapbox and go back into the shadows. Its all this egoflipping bullshit that made us doubt last DPR and it turns out we were right.

Lol, going back into the sahdows will not accomplice anything worth mentioning.

A lot of us are here for the revolution, and in order to make that revolution happen we need to get up in their faces, with well articulated arguments which they cannot possibly refute!

They love to put a label on us, as being imoral, greedy, evil, and a whole fuore of nasty things.
This serves to show them that they are wrong on all their faulty presumptions, and will somehow force them to re-evaluate their believes, unless they want to be percieved as biggots, or faulty idealists!

We need to force them to re-evaluate everything that they think they know about us, and our cause, and we cannot do that unless we somehow show ourselves and argue against their lies, and mis-information.
[/quote]

awww you want the gubbermint to accept you, thats adorable.

[AliceInWonderland]

awww you want the gubbermint to accept you, thats adorable.

I want them to accept logic and reason. I want them to acknowledge the peoples rights to be free and prosperous without their intervention. And lastly I want them to acknowledge that they are fighting a war that they have no possibility of ever winning!

I dont know if you are just trolling, but it is kind of hard to argue against your dumb condescending replies! If you dont have anything remotely intelligent to say, why dont you just simply keep quiet.?

[wakemeup]

Before Silk Road can take the moral high ground, it must remove listings for items such as forgeries and pirated software / movies.

It's completely moral for someone to ingest any substance they desire or manufacture and sell such substances. Identity theft and stealing copyrighted goods is immoral.

[YOULUbe]

awww you want the gubbermint to accept you, thats adorable.

I want them to accept logic and reason. I want them to acknowledge the peoples rights to be free and prosperous without their intervention. And lastly I want them to acknowledge that they are fighting a war that they have no possibility of ever winning!

I dont know if you are just trolling, but it is kind of hard to argue against your dumb condescending replies! If you dont have anything remotely intelligent to say, why dont you just simply keep quiet.?

not trolling, making a point, your sentiments are naive if you think the government has any interest in the things you described. Its general knowledge at this point that drugs are illegal because its profitable for them to be. Whether their selling them illegally through the cia or creating whole departments and keeping their friends employed, its money, nothing short of highly popular opinion against drug laws is going to change it, and dont count on that, the majority of the country are rednecks, evangelists, idiots, or simply dont care.

[AliceInWonderland]

not trolling, making a point, your sentiments are naive if you think the government has any interest in the things you described. Its general knowledge at this point that drugs are illegal because its profitable for them to be. Whether their selling them illegally through the cia or creating whole departments and keeping their friends employed, its money, nothing short of highly popular opinion against drug laws is going to change it, and dont count on that, the majority of the country are rednecks, evangelists, idiots, or simply dont care.

Ahh, now I get it.

And I would agree that my previous post did seem a bit naive, but that is only because I am desperate for some change. I know that will probably not happen, anytime soon, But I just think that pushing them a bit (Like DPR just did) might be a small push in the right direction.

In other words; I am optimistic about this, but I don't count on anything changing though. :-)

[batin]

“This new website – launched barely a month after Federal agents shut down the original Silk Road -- underscores the inescapable reality that technology is dynamic and ever-evolving and that government policy needs to adapt accordingly. Rather than play ‘whack-a-mole’ with the latest website,  currency, or other method criminals are using in an effort to evade the law, we need to develop thoughtful, nimble and sensible federal policies that protect the public without stifling innovation and economic growth. Our committee intends to have that conversation – among others - at our hearing this month on virtual currency.”


Translation: "We cannot win a war against an invisible foe, let's stop chasing ghosts and pretend we are keeping people safe by shutting down a website, instead let's concentrate on changing outdated government policy; start treating drug addiction as a disease, not a crime. Not everyone who is currently breaking the law should be treated as a criminal. Instead let's see how we can get out of this disastrous economic mess my fellow politicians and I have gotten our country into and perhaps I can help legalize some of these drugs within my lifetime so I can hopefully do some myself. Oh yeah and the NSA should be mining Bitcoins."

Are you serious? That is the translation you got out of that? I highly doubt that is what he was talking about. He was talking about making some kind of new federal laws to try to stop people from being able to make purchases on a site like SR. He said he would have the discussion at a hearing on digital currency. He thinks he can try to regulate BTC or something so they are not a viable option to make these anonymous, black market purchases. This guy is not taking any kind of a stance whatsoever against prohibition. He does not see this as a freedom. At this point, most politicians are afraid that taking a stance against current drug policy is political suicide, and you know what, that is probably the truth.

This guy is not our man on the inside. He is up to no good. He wants this revolution to end.

[YOULUbe]

“This new website – launched barely a month after Federal agents shut down the original Silk Road -- underscores the inescapable reality that technology is dynamic and ever-evolving and that government policy needs to adapt accordingly. Rather than play ‘whack-a-mole’ with the latest website,  currency, or other method criminals are using in an effort to evade the law, we need to develop thoughtful, nimble and sensible federal policies that protect the public without stifling innovation and economic growth. Our committee intends to have that conversation – among others - at our hearing this month on virtual currency.”


Translation: "We cannot win a war against an invisible foe, let's stop chasing ghosts and pretend we are keeping people safe by shutting down a website, instead let's concentrate on changing outdated government policy; start treating drug addiction as a disease, not a crime. Not everyone who is currently breaking the law should be treated as a criminal. Instead let's see how we can get out of this disastrous economic mess my fellow politicians and I have gotten our country into and perhaps I can help legalize some of these drugs within my lifetime so I can hopefully do some myself. Oh yeah and the NSA should be mining Bitcoins."

Are you serious? That is the translation you got out of that? I highly doubt that is what he was talking about. He was talking about making some kind of new federal laws to try to stop people from being able to make purchases on a site like SR. He said he would have the discussion at a hearing on digital currency. He thinks he can try to regulate BTC or something so they are not a viable option to make these anonymous, black market purchases. This guy is not taking any kind of a stance whatsoever against prohibition. He does not see this as a freedom. At this point, most politicians are afraid that taking a stance against current drug policy is political suicide, and you know what, that is probably the truth.

This guy is not our man on the inside. He is up to no good. He wants this revolution to end.

yeah no shit, how the fuck did dpr get any sort of positive vibe out of this, this guy only recognized that they'll never win out against the darknet, now they're going to go after bitcoin. not that theres anything they can do short of banning it outright.

[Jones909]

Like or not he is totally misconstruing DPR's actions here. I seriously doubt he is laboring under the illusion that Carper is trying to be his friend. What he is doing , apparently, is too subtle for some here to grasp.

[YOULUbe]

yeah no shit, how the fuck did dpr get any sort of positive vibe out of this, this guy only recognized that they'll never win out against the darknet, now they're going to go after bitcoin. not that theres anything they can do short of banning it outright.

you don't like dpr much do you?

Heres a short little reenactment of the dpr fanclub of the past few months:

Jul: DPR you did a forbes article, wow thats awesome, show em whose boss!
Oct: Oh shit DPR got pwned for being a hotshot dumbass, guess we were all wrong!
Nov: DPR you want to meet the president in person and discuss policy with him, wow thats awesome, show em whose boss!

[broken string]

yeah no shit, how the fuck did dpr get any sort of positive vibe out of this, this guy only recognized that they'll never win out against the darknet, now they're going to go after bitcoin. not that theres anything they can do short of banning it outright.

you don't like dpr much do you?

Heres a short little reenactment of the dpr fanclub of the past few months:

Jul: DPR you did a forbes article, wow thats awesome, show em whose boss!
Oct: Oh shit DPR got pwned for being a hotshot dumbass, guess we were all wrong!
Nov: DPR you want to meet the president in person and discuss policy with him, wow thats awesome, show em whose boss!

My God you are a vapid cunt. I am a pretty nice person but I would rather piss blood than read another one of your half-wit criticisms. This is not fanboying, either; this is you annoying the shit out of me. It sucks even more because you almost have a point but are such a turgid little shit about it that you completely discredit any and all viewpoints you try to present. Seriously--show a little godamn courtesy, or just leave. I sincerely doubt there is a single person here who would enjoy watching you piss, moan, and complain for another minute. If you have something to say, do it without being a shitbird. I mean fuck, man.

[Leafy]

Great words in a fucked up world. Keep it going, DPR!

[bbkf]

How can we the public show our support of the idea that is SilkRoad ?

A lot of people here are jumping up and down that they can now buy drugs over the Internet, but what can others like me do that want to help the cause and message that SilkRoad tries to spread and display with its community ? Is there anything the public could do to show the media and government that they support what SilkRoad stands for and it will look less like DPR is on their own.

I would say to get active and support organizations that are actively against prohibition. That sort of thing. We can all be activists.

If one thinks back a few years to the arrest and imprisonment of Marc Emery, the reasons for going after Emery were telling. The DEA targeted Emery because the bulk of the money his seed selling business made was funneled to various Marijuana Parties and other organizations promoting legalization or decriminalization.  Emery selling some quantity of seeds by mail was not a threat -- the real threat came from the fact that he was empowering people to press for social change, i.e. legalization or decriminalization of marijuana. 

Nightcrawler
4096R/BBF7433B 2012-09-22 Nightcrawler <Nightcrawler@SR>
PGP Key Fingerprint = D870 C6AC CC6E 46B0 E0C7  3955 B8F1 D88E BBF7 433B

Security is a bit like religion... some things have to be taken on faith.
Where security differs from religion is that security is NOT retroactive.
Unlike Christianity, where you can come to Jesus, be 'saved' and have all
your sins washed away, with security you can adopt Tails or PGP, and be
secure from that point forward, but rest assured that your previous sins
(security failings) WILL come back to haunt you and bite you in the ass.
The original DPR is the poster child for that, right now.

If you wish to campaign for the legalisation of cannabis, you should get in touch with, join and support NORML - *CLEARNET* http://norml.org/

They also have subdivisions such as NORML UK - *CLEARNET* http://norml-uk.org/

I'm afraid I don't currently have to hand a list of other pro-reform organisations in regards to drugs other than cannabis, but NORML is a good place to start.

MAPS  The Multidisciplinary Association for Psychedelic Studies

[aredhel]

Its general knowledge at this point that drugs are illegal because its profitable for them to be.

The "It's all about profit" card is played much too often for my gusto. And perhaps this is exactly what THEY want us to believe. They want to believe they are "just after the money" - a very safe belief because it keeps us locked into the system.

On the contrary, I believe, "they" don't care at all about money. Because they can "print" it and control it's distribution. They distribute "borrow" it to groups which support their goals, and we can see, those are normally the large employers who pay well.

"They" perhaps are plotting to weaken and marginalize fringe groups of society which possibly can question the prescribed mainstream lifestyle and perhaps point out viable alternatives to meaningless 9-to-5 jobs and consumerism.

[polyphemusperception]

I hope this DPR isn't sitting in an internet cafe in CA whilst writing this... it seems by the letter than he's an american....
otherwise who cares about some guy in the US making comments about a relaunch....  clues like this lead to arrests.... 

please stay hidden and leave the US so you don't get caught.. the US is not the place to be while administrating this site.

[crackerbarrel]

I hope this DPR isn't sitting in an internet cafe in CA whilst writing this... it seems by the letter than he's an american....
otherwise who cares about some guy in the US making comments about a relaunch....  clues like this lead to arrests.... 

please stay hidden and leave the US so you don't get caught.. the US is not the place to be while administrating this site.

Wise words. I pray that DPR does not repeat the mistakes of those fallen. Exercising caution, employing compartmentalizaton in ones' life, doing your homework, doing your homework again, USING TAILS, and most of all shutting the fuck up seems to be the rule of the road. NEVER get too comfortable.

Peace.

[ULW981]

As much as  i liked reading this and thought it was fucking great.

That will do nothing to spark any kind of dialogue with anyone in government. drugs is one thing that the government uses as an excuse to strip our taxes. The BTC currency, that's a whole other thing. The Big boys who control the Federal reserve will push to slam it. The only reason why the rich in this country or around the world have not done anything yet, is because its not a threat....YET. But if this becomes main stream you will see shit happen.

It was a great response DPR!!  but be careful. Those fucking FBI pigs will make it their mission to shut you down, or go after us.

There was a report recently about CP. they know they cant stop it, but now they are setting traps getting the buyers names and info and sending them to LE...they feel if they expose the buyers it will choke the markets.....I don't have much faith in that approach, but it will slow things down. So the same here, they will make it harder to get BTC. and they will start busting buyers and splashing the names in the media..to scare the masses..

its a sad day, and personally i would prefer to buy my stuff from a few reliable vendors. Nice and quite and with no fan fare.

But not all is lost we are winning the pot war....now, we just need lsd and mdma to be legal...

[meng]

love it

[cleansober]

Nice to hear profits are going to charities, etc.  While I am excited about getting better access to better weed again, push comes to shove, I'll quit rather than die for this right.

Brave people like those rolling out this site stand to loss/gain a lot from their efforts.  Thanks for people willing to risk it all.  For me my drug use is a health issue not a political one.  Any persons drug habits should be a subject for them and their health professionals, not some Senator, his staff, and a hoard of onlookers.

[StringerBell]

I think this is a kind of public relation trick, a way to get attention to his enterprise and i like it!
However the problem is it effectively proved or implicated to the feds he is in fact an American, hence the FBI and DEA jurisdiction.
Maybe it doesn't matter I don't know, but take sheep for example I bet it would be more difficult to the FBI to get funds to launch an
operation when it's not there jurisdiction, but an other country's responsibility. In that case you first need to sort out which jurisdiction he/she
is under, what kind of laws there is and then make the local police organization launch the operation! In other jurisdiction's they most often does
not have the same (immoral) ways to gather evidence as they can do in the states (for example making the hits).

Or maybe this is just disinformation from DPR and he is in fact zipping on a mojito in Copacabana with the laptop in he knees looking at tanned asses in thong!

Or am I wrong?

[MrPharmacist]

I hope this DPR isn't sitting in an internet cafe in CA whilst writing this... it seems by the letter than he's an american....
otherwise who cares about some guy in the US making comments about a relaunch....  clues like this lead to arrests.... 

please stay hidden and leave the US so you don't get caught.. the US is not the place to be while administrating this site.

Agree totally. +1 to you.  I hope the whole speaking in American English and suggesting that he's an American (possibly running the site from the US) is a ruse.   If I was him, I'd be in a country where there is no US extradition treaty!    If he's not an American, this doesn't mean his comments and politics about the US system are any less valid.    I love the US, but it's government is out of control and it's policies need to be challenged by the world community.  This is one of the very positive things about the Snowden revelations.

[MrPharmacist]

But not all is lost we are winning the pot war....now, we just need lsd and mdma to be legal...

i would argue that it is much more important to legalize the more harder addictive drugs like heroin, cocaine and meth. they are the ones that are causing more harm under prohibition. every single overdose and contraction of HIV and HEP C via sharing needles, and infections through using dirty needles, is a direct result of prohibition. if it wasn't for prohibition then pretty much none of them would have ever happened.

Agree totally with this comment Nick (+1 to you).  At the very least decriminalize the hard drugs.  In countries like Portugal I've heard this approach is having a lot of success.  I also have respect for the cities around the world which have 'shooting galleries' providing free needles and support for addicts.

[James Frazer]

Why do they think millions of us have retreated to the dark web?  It's not just about buying drugs.

Buying drugs is the only reason I'm here.

Not that I'm saying getting strung out on crack isn't an essential part of the revolution, just that when it comes to throwing myself on the barricades, i prefer the time and place to be of my own choosing.

[blackend646]

Sen. Carper,
Furthermore, if the appropriate authorities were able to guarantee me my safety and immunity against prosecution, I would gladly remove my mask and blow open the gates of fair discussion on policy reform.

Uhh.... What?


I would like to see this market succeed, I really would. And I haven't really understood the negative sentiment that has been directed towards you thus far; but this is one of the stupidest things I've ever read and I really hope you are not sincere about it. If you want to continue the old DPR's ways of garnering publicity and spitting in the faces of Law Enforcement I support you 100%, but comments like this really make it hard for us to trust you. I hope for your own sake you do not let this all go to your head.


I personally find it plausible the idea that Ross on some level wanted to be caught. To be unmasked as the infamous Dread Pirate Roberts and go down in history forever; or perhaps for some other motive. But I can promise you, whether it be 50 years from now, 6 months, or tomorrow, when he is cooped up in that jail cell, never to smell grass or touch a woman again; staring at the wall while the world passes him by and the hours he could have spent living a happy and full life tick away; he will come to regret that decision on a level so intense and soul crushing that I shudder to even imagine it.


This is a huge undertaking, the decisions you make in the times ahead have the potential to make an enormously positive impact on the world and make you filthy rich in the process, but making the wrong decisions will destroy your life beyond repair. Please, for the sake of yourself, this community and the world don't be an idiot.

[cleansober]

Please, for the sake of yourself, this community and the world don't be an idiot.

Speaking for myself, not being an idiot is easier said than done.

[wetdog]

I hope this DPR isn't sitting in an internet cafe in CA whilst writing this... it seems by the letter than he's an american....
otherwise who cares about some guy in the US making comments about a relaunch....  clues like this lead to arrests.... 

please stay hidden and leave the US so you don't get caught.. the US is not the place to be while administrating this site.

As i was reading through this thread again, and ll of the people calling him out for leaving clues of being an American i was hoping the exact same thing.  I certainly hope you are right.
Agree totally. +1 to you.  I hope the whole speaking in American English and suggesting that he's an American (possibly running the site from the US) is a ruse.   If I was him, I'd be in a country where there is no US extradition treaty!    If he's not an American, this doesn't mean his comments and politics about the US system are any less valid.    I love the US, but it's government is out of control and it's policies need to be challenged by the world community.  This is one of the very positive things about the Snowden revelations.

[Sasha Shulgin]

Right behind you! We must not stay silent and sit idly by! Our voices can and will be heard.

[ULW981]

Why do they think millions of us have retreated to the dark web?  It's not just about buying drugs.

Buying drugs is the only reason I'm here.

Not that I'm saying getting strung out on crack isn't an essential part of the revolution, just that when it comes to throwing myself on the barricades, i prefer the time and place to be of my own choosing.

I think the fact you are here tells the world we want SR and you cant stop us. We are one voice telling the world Drugs are here and will always be here. 

[ASlone2013]

so DPR sounds like a Anonymous Representative From The group that stayed at the white house when the angry mob was ruining around DC 

[dev-null]

“This new website – launched barely a month after Federal agents shut down the original Silk Road -- underscores the inescapable reality that technology is dynamic and ever-evolving and that government policy needs to adapt accordingly. Rather than play ‘whack-a-mole’ with the latest website,  currency, or other method criminals are using in an effort to evade the law, we need to develop thoughtful, nimble and sensible federal policies that protect the public without stifling innovation and economic growth. Our committee intends to have that conversation – among others - at our hearing this month on virtual currency.”


Translation: "We cannot win a war against an invisible foe, let's stop chasing ghosts and pretend we are keeping people safe by shutting down a website, instead let's concentrate on changing outdated government policy; start treating drug addiction as a disease, not a crime. Not everyone who is currently breaking the law should be treated as a criminal. Instead let's see how we can get out of this disastrous economic mess my fellow politicians and I have gotten our country into and perhaps I can help legalize some of these drugs within my lifetime so I can hopefully do some myself. Oh yeah and the NSA should be mining Bitcoins."

Are you serious? That is the translation you got out of that? I highly doubt that is what he was talking about. He was talking about making some kind of new federal laws to try to stop people from being able to make purchases on a site like SR. He said he would have the discussion at a hearing on digital currency. He thinks he can try to regulate BTC or something so they are not a viable option to make these anonymous, black market purchases. This guy is not taking any kind of a stance whatsoever against prohibition. He does not see this as a freedom. At this point, most politicians are afraid that taking a stance against current drug policy is political suicide, and you know what, that is probably the truth.

This guy is not our man on the inside. He is up to no good. He wants this revolution to end.

No, I don't entirely believe in all that I wrote, there was quite a bit or sarcasm I admit, but with that being said I don't necessarily agree with your pessimistic interpretation of his statement either. I say this because previously a different senator voiced his disapproval of the FBI and how basically useless they have been in response to drug buying/selling online.

In contrast this senator's statement in my opinion were a lot more passive, don't you think?