NEW SR !!! FEES AND CHARGES??

[waiting4sr]

i am ex vondor but cant really prove any of it as when sr went down so did all my pcs wiped clean and the i never used the vendors forum
only thing i have is my user name ,passwrd and pin lol thats

but anyway back to the subject ,so dpr do we know what its going to cost to get on board and are the fees going to be like the old sr
cuase if thats the case the new sr can go and fuck it self , it costed us alot of money because the old dpr was a total dumb wit !!but i still feel for him and the position he is in shit does happen , the old sr fees were taking a massive chunk out of our profits and we stilll got screwed on top of that ,so basscially if its going to be the greedy fees ,ill stickl with sheep so far to me personally has been great

[JohnTheBaptist]

Way to go! you just blew the small chance he might of used his discretion and let you prove it another way.  Well they won't be free, it's a business not a charity

[ProEvo]

Way to go! you just blew the small chance he might of used his discretion and let you prove it another way.  Well they won't be free, it's a business not a charity

Very nice use of the new bold feature John, it's the first time i have seen it been used.

And yeah, I can imagine the fee's are quite steep but DPR is taking a massive risk so I feel they are justified. Most vendors will pick the price they want to sell at and then put the commission on top of that. Consider it as VAT on all your sales.

[waiting4sr]

where in the whole thing did u see me type FREE ? i have no problem in paying for vendor as long its fair or same way it was before a bond , now the fees , did i miss read something dpr assets 23 something million dolars sezied and the site turned over 1.2 bilion ., 23 million is peanuts compare to what dpr has hidden away AND BY ALL MEANS SO HE should but if the new sr follows in the same footsteps as the old one charging the same fees alot of us vendors will not be jumping on board when we are making alot more with other sites and lower fees , getting quality gear aint cheap espacially down under and the profit margins were not the best with the old system , u can buy an ounce of weed for 210 on the streets but on sr vendors had to pump there prices up to over 300 just cover cost and make profit
i am all for sr but and cant wait till it comes up but if the fees are the same ill be very disopointed , as stated some of us lost a lot coin so in my opnion sr should give us something back lower fees so we can make a decent turn around

[JohnTheBaptist]

Way to go! you just blew the small chance he might of used his discretion and let you prove it another way.  Well they won't be free, it's a business not a charity

Very nice use of the new bold feature John, it's the first time i have seen it been used.

And yeah, I can imagine the fee's are quite steep but DPR is taking a massive risk so I feel they are justified. Most vendors will pick the price they want to sell at and then put the commission on top of that. Consider it as VAT on all your sales.

Ha ha Cheers Evo bud! since we were the first 3 initiated why not!
He is taking a risk I hope he has weighed the implications up and he must be confident knowing the feds can't touch him. They ( the Feds ) must be irked to say the least.

[JohnTheBaptist]

where in the whole thing did u see me type FREE ? i have no problem in paying for vendor as long its fair or same way it was before a bond , now the fees , did i miss read something dpr assets 23 something million dolars sezied and the site turned over 1.2 bilion ., 23 million is peanuts compare to what dpr has hidden away AND BY ALL MEANS SO HE should but if the new sr follows in the same footsteps as the old one charging the same fees alot of us vendors will not be jumping on board when we are making alot more with other sites and lower fees , getting quality gear aint cheap espacially down under and the profit margins were not the best with the old system , u can buy an ounce of weed for 210 on the streets but on sr vendors had to pump there prices up to over 300 just cover cost and make profit
i am all for sr but and cant wait till it comes up but if the fees are the same ill be very disopointed , as stated some of us lost a lot coin so in my opnion sr should give us something back lower fees so we can make a decent turn around

I know but SR is  under new management. The last owner charged a certain fee, the new owner needs to charge more, he can't charge less or we will have some mugs charging nothing. That's psychology, plus the stakes have risen as we all know how hard the feds worked to apprehend Ross. I'm sure he will work something out with you, but  the mistakes of the last captain
can't be revisited on the new one. i.e, he can't lower the fees because people lost $$$

[Magic Man]

i am ex vondor but cant really prove any of it as when sr went down so did all my pcs wiped clean and the i never used the vendors forum
only thing i have is my user name ,passwrd and pin lol thats

but anyway back to the subject ,so dpr do we know what its going to cost to get on board and are the fees going to be like the old sr
cuase if thats the case the new sr can go and fuck it self , it costed us alot of money because the old dpr was a total dumb wit !!but i still feel for him and the position he is in shit does happen , the old sr fees were taking a massive chunk out of our profits and we stilll got screwed on top of that ,so basscially if its going to be the greedy fees ,ill stickl with sheep so far to me personally has been great

Then GET THE FUCK OUT and go back to sheep. If you weren't smart enough to have PGP for the safety of customers then we don't want you as a vendor here, especially if your crying like a little bitch.

[parabol]

You must have understood the risks before even joining. The site owes you nothing. Also this is a different market under a different management.

[waiting4sr]

GO AND FUCK YOUR OWN MOTHER U COCKSUCKING SON OF SLUT , get your fucking fax straight u stupid fuck i did have a pgp and preety sure its still up there and i did fucken use it with my customers and if dpr can access vendors from the old site ill give him all the details just prove and shove it down your throat , but when the shit hit the fan everysingle fucking thing that i had tracebkle back to me i either smashed it or deleted completely , so before jumping the gun u cunt get your facts fucking straight u fucking keyboard warrior

[ProEvo]

i am ex vondor but cant really prove any of it as when sr went down so did all my pcs wiped clean and the i never used the vendors forum
only thing i have is my user name ,passwrd and pin lol thats

but anyway back to the subject ,so dpr do we know what its going to cost to get on board and are the fees going to be like the old sr
cuase if thats the case the new sr can go and fuck it self , it costed us alot of money because the old dpr was a total dumb wit !!but i still feel for him and the position he is in shit does happen , the old sr fees were taking a massive chunk out of our profits and we stilll got screwed on top of that ,so basscially if its going to be the greedy fees ,ill stickl with sheep so far to me personally has been great

Haha this gave me a good chuckle. Well said
Then GET THE FUCK OUT and go back to sheep. If you weren't smart enough to have PGP for the safety of customers then we don't want you as a vendor here, especially if your crying like a little bitch.

[waiting4sr]

fuck i am getting attacked on all sides by the guys who are spose to be bhind the next great thing, i simply asked a question and 1 though i wanted a free account the other thinks i wasnt using ppg lol , what a fucking joke  instead the only logical response was from john the baptist and rest of the hero fools are high fiving each other on there comments

great fucking team 10+++

[LOL]

waiting4sr:
you can't seriously expect people to believe you were a vendor do you?
at least not a successful/trustworthy one...

im sure you're just a desperate crackhead who hasn't gotten his fix in a couple days...
chill out, lay off the pipe, boy, it'll do you some good

[Dread Pirate Roberts]

Vendors are already aware of the fees charged but I have instructed them to keep it within the roundtable until the public release of the site since they could still be changed. The overall response to the fee structure has been positive from what I gather.

[ananas_xpress]

GO AND FUCK YOUR OWN MOTHER U COCKSUCKING SON OF SLUT , get your fucking fax straight u stupid fuck i did have a pgp and preety sure its still up there and i did fucken use it with my customers and if dpr can access vendors from the old site ill give him all the details just prove and shove it down your throat , but when the shit hit the fan everysingle fucking thing that i had tracebkle back to me i either smashed it or deleted completely , so before jumping the gun u cunt get your facts fucking straight u fucking keyboard warrior

So you smashed the password to your old forum account?
Because other than your bad grammar I don't see you having any problem.
Even if you somehow did manage to delete everything on your old forum account admins would still have all record as would the feds so was kinda pointless in the first place.

Sorry to be a dick but you seem o be a dick so...Mmeh

[jayblunted]

fuck i am getting attacked on all sides by the guys who are spose to be bhind the next great thing, i simply asked a question and 1 though i wanted a free account the other thinks i wasnt using ppg lol , what a fucking joke  instead the only logical response was from john the baptist and rest of the hero fools are high fiving each other on there comments

great fucking team 10+++

What you need to consider is which option is going to benefit you the most. You can go and stay at sheep and be happy with yourself because you are not paying SR rates but then are your going to be making the same sales?
This is just common sense and something anyone in business should be able to decide for themselves without going on a public tirade and abusing someone who has provided you the opportunity and not even provide you the fees to argue with anyway.
As for deleting your PGP and anything that would have had you recognised as a former vendor thats just bad luck. Paying the bond is like paying to make money. Either pay it and shut up or go and sell on Sheep.

[UKP2014]

Hi waiting4sr. I too am in the same boat, an ex-vendor of over a year, top 25% & 99.99% feedback. However, I too went into panic mode & deleted everything but the kitchen sink. I know my old public key but though I have asked Lib for a free signup pass it was declined. He would have IF I could have sent him from my original key so I can understand their position. I accept this but I would have bought more stock & passed on the savings but heyho! New vendors stealing old names, reps & getting if for free. I lost over $2300 mostly in escrow but that's that as much as it hurts, all of my orders were sent & none of my customers AFAIK lost out (from me anyway).

Back to your point. I am selling on BMR. Opinion? Shoddy look, lack of sales & very late or no finalization. Can't do business there TBH. Only good thing I can see is they seem to have good OPSEC & come back like a bad penny.

Sheep? 1.5BTC signup. Hmmmm Maybe worth a risk thought I feel this is pricey for such a new site - very pricey. Sheep will be my route depending on

1. The OPSEC/look/feel of SR2. If enough vendors jump there then buyers will too.
2. The signup fee. I got cleaned out of BTC. Yes SR2 staff should take this into account as lots of vendors lost a shitload. Cut us a break to build the site up, get the vendors in, lower the fees - for the time being at least.

Note to SR staff/DPR: Do not forget trust in SR has been severely degraded. A lot of buyers saw this as a close call and may decide never to shop on SR again but from BMR or Sheep - the former mostly due to the fact it has not ever been really compromised. SR2 needs a Unique Selling Point which is not the name or camel logho. It needs ultimate OPSEC, something new, something it will have over Sheep/BMR. This could be a s simple as CHOICE and that choice will only come with more vendors and lower initial rates/sign-up fee. Only then will the incentive be met & it will be a killer site. From this point Sheep is growing and SR2 does not even exist so lets start at half a BTC signup & half a % lower fee rate than the other 2.

Old British saying, stock 'em high, sell 'em cheap. Only way to get the ball rolling & put the ball back in our court. Biggest mistake would be to rest on our laurels as that would be a joke in so many ways!!

[waiting4sr]

Hi waiting4sr. I too am in the same boat, an ex-vendor of over a year, top 25% & 99.99% feedback. However, I too went into panic mode & deleted everything but the kitchen sink. I know my old public key but though I have asked Lib for a free signup pass it was declined. He would have IF I could have sent him from my original key so I can understand their position. I accept this but I would have bought more stock & passed on the savings but heyho! New vendors stealing old names, reps & getting if for free. I lost over $2300 mostly in escrow but that's that as much as it hurts, all of my orders were sent & none of my customers AFAIK lost out (from me anyway).

Back to your point. I am selling on BMR. Opinion? Shoddy look, lack of sales & very late or no finalization. Can't do business there TBH. Only good thing I can see is they seem to have good OPSEC & come back like a bad penny.

Sheep? 1.5BTC signup. Hmmmm Maybe worth a risk thought I feel this is pricey for such a new site - very pricey. Sheep will be my route depending on

1. The OPSEC/look/feel of SR2. If enough vendors jump there then buyers will too.
2. The signup fee. I got cleaned out of BTC. Yes SR2 staff should take this into account as lots of vendors lost a shitload. Cut us a break to build the site up, get the vendors in, lower the fees - for the time being at least.

Note to SR staff/DPR: Do not forget trust in SR has been severely degraded. A lot of buyers saw this as a close call and may decide never to shop on SR again but from BMR or Sheep - the former mostly due to the fact it has not ever been really compromised. SR2 needs a Unique Selling Point which is not the name or camel logho. It needs ultimate OPSEC, something new, something it will have over Sheep/BMR. This could be a s simple as CHOICE and that choice will only come with more vendors and lower initial rates/sign-up fee. Only then will the incentive be met & it will be a killer site. From this point Sheep is growing and SR2 does not even exist so lets start at half a BTC signup & half a % lower fee rate than the other 2.

Old British saying, stock 'em high, sell 'em cheap. Only way to get the ball rolling & put the ball back in our court. Biggest mistake would be to rest on our laurels as that would be a joke in so many ways!!

1st i wana take my hat off to this bloke UKP1 for the way he responded to the thread and i my self should have started the thread in the same manner but we are human and temper can be side affect , but again telling me to fuck off and i am on crack and how could i be a member etc etc instead of maybe telling me to calm the fuck down and discussing the questions ??

one point i didnt get to make last night cause after all the crap i new this wasnt getting any better is the fact that like ukp1 said<Do not forget trust in SR has been severely degraded. A lot of buyers saw this as a close call and may decide never to shop on SR again but from BMR or Sheep> and this is true some of u guys who are acting like a pack of wolves should read other threads , trust in sr is down i am still in contact with some of the vendors from sr and there all on the same boat , it got shut once ,there was no back up withdraw , and many vendors got screwed , and most of them are on the fence on if they will ever come back , sr went donw once whats to say it wont happen again and with all these idiots going on about fbi are stupid and dea fucked etc etc is bringing so much heat IS IT REALLY WORTH IT , and no discrespect to dpr but how do we know your not an le and the next site is to bring back the crowds make some money for the feds then take all the big boys down
if u google sr 2.0 its all over the web that the new one is coming back ,i was reading it in one of the news papers !!!!  wtf , there was a discussion about how atlantis was shut down because of the way they advertised wellll guess what its happening right now and tgis place is going to be swarming with le ,i heard u mention somewhere there is going to be a twitter account !!!whattt!!! no comment

i dont no what else to say so lets just see what happens


 

[waiting4sr]

waiting4sr:
you can't seriously expect people to believe you were a vendor do you?
at least not a successful/trustworthy one...

im sure you're just a desperate crackhead who hasn't gotten his fix in a couple days...
chill out, lay off the pipe, boy, it'll do you some good

dont do crack , not my thing ,
my vendor name was

FOXONFIREE
i was a vendor for just over 4 months and customer for 12
i only delt locally in au mainly sweet ganja
if DPR was ever intrested i can give him my psswrd and pin cause and also give him the deatils of last  orders that were listed ,it aint  doing me any good anymore so got nothing to hide

[waiting4sr]

GO AND FUCK YOUR OWN MOTHER U COCKSUCKING SON OF SLUT , get your fucking fax straight u stupid fuck i did have a pgp and preety sure its still up there and i did fucken use it with my customers and if dpr can access vendors from the old site ill give him all the details just prove and shove it down your throat , but when the shit hit the fan everysingle fucking thing that i had tracebkle back to me i either smashed it or deleted completely , so before jumping the gun u cunt get your facts fucking straight u fucking keyboard warrior

So you smashed the password to your old forum account?
Because other than your bad grammar I don't see you having any problem.
Even if you somehow did manage to delete everything on your old forum account admins would still have all record as would the feds so was kinda pointless in the first place.

Sorry to be a dick but you seem o be a dick so...Mmeh

GO AND FUCK YOUR OWN MOTHER U COCKSUCKING SON OF SLUT , get your fucking fax straight u stupid fuck i did have a pgp and preety sure its still up there and i did fucken use it with my customers and if dpr can access vendors from the old site ill give him all the details just prove and shove it down your throat , but when the shit hit the fan everysingle fucking thing that i had tracebkle back to me i either smashed it or deleted completely , so before jumping the gun u cunt get your facts fucking straight u fucking keyboard warrior

So you smashed the password to your old forum account?
Because other than your bad grammar I don't see you having any problem.
Even if you somehow did manage to delete everything on your old forum account admins would still have all record as would the feds so was kinda pointless in the first place.

Sorry to be a dick but you seem o be a dick so...Mmeh

another one jumpes the gun , as i stated password pin and info on last 2 days before it went down  i still remember the goods that had to be sent

[waiting4sr]

waiting4sr:
you can't seriously expect people to believe you were a vendor do you?
at least not a successful/trustworthy one...

im sure you're just a desperate crackhead who hasn't gotten his fix in a couple days...
chill out, lay off the pipe, boy, it'll do you some good

never had one bad feedback in 4 months , never lost a parcel , and i sild nothing but quality

[Northwest Nuggets]

Vendors are already aware of the fees charged but I have instructed them to keep it within the roundtable until the public release of the site since they could still be changed. The overall response to the fee structure has been positive from what I gather.

How does somebody become a SR vendor?   Can't anybody just claim to be an SR vendor since there is no place yet to actually do the vending?  Or do you have a list of PGP keys of all the SR vendors?  Thanks!

[Baggie]

Any way we could get a mod to lock this thread? This is doing absolutely nothing to help with all that has happened.

We are a community and are brothers and sisters and have been toe to toe with LE throughout this entire online drug-trade from the start. Be kind to each other and help to bring back the peaceful community we once had (More secure).

Work to better yourselves people. I think this should have shown us all just how serious this war really is.

[Magic Man]

Any way we could get a mod to lock this thread? This is doing absolutely nothing to help with all that has happened.

We are a community and are brothers and sisters and have been toe to toe with LE throughout this entire online drug-trade from the start. Be kind to each other and help to bring back the peaceful community we once had (More secure).

Work to better yourselves people. I think this should have shown us all just how serious this war really is.

Couldn't agree more, but when someone comes in here acting like the marketplace owes them something for being a member they couldn't be more wrong. Then talking shit like sheep is better, fees are smaller blah blah. It's just a little silly as we all know Silk Road was by far the most successful hidden marketplace during its peak.
Lets carry on like vendors and not act like spoiled toddlers.

[Baggie]

Any way we could get a mod to lock this thread? This is doing absolutely nothing to help with all that has happened.

We are a community and are brothers and sisters and have been toe to toe with LE throughout this entire online drug-trade from the start. Be kind to each other and help to bring back the peaceful community we once had (More secure).

Work to better yourselves people. I think this should have shown us all just how serious this war really is.

Couldn't agree more, but when someone comes in here acting like the marketplace owes them something for being a member they couldn't be more wrong. Then talking shit like sheep is better, fees are smaller blah blah. It's just a little silly as we all know Silk Road was by far the most successful hidden marketplace during its peak.
Lets carry on like vendors and not act like spoiled toddlers.

Absolutely, Well said.

It's the people like you who will keep this place alive.

[UKP2014]

So no debate, bury heads in sand, pretend nothing happened & get screwed.
This was a forum last time I looked.
Being a buyer I would say STFU just get on here and sell.
Certain vendors will have a VERY different viewpoint. Try losing $20-30k and see how it would feel.
And before you say, well they kept it in wallet, well Ross stated there was a plan B. How did that work out?
Also, most of the funds went in pending escrow.
Let's not be under ANY doubt - this is the last time SR can survive. If this get's downed then say bye for good.
Locking a thread? LOL is this what Amerika (sic) has now become? This is not an argument. I hear an Aussie vendor who's trying to get met half way. I agree. We trusted. We paid % on sales so YES we do deserve a break. Mistakes were made. Greed & denial got in the way of best method OPSEC. Maybe pride too but I do not know Ross so that's a guess but to say waaaa-waaaa I don't like what's being said we are all brothers & sisters???!!! NO ! Vendors are here to earn. Buyers want to get stoned. We can chat, yes but FFS let's get the facts straight. I am not on MDMA & not feeling the oneness at the moment, sorry - this is business. I'll hug you at a rave some other time maybe.

[Baggie]

So no debate, bury heads in sand, pretend nothing happened & get screwed.
This was a forum last time I looked.
Being a buyer I would say STFU just get on here and sell.
Certain vendors will have a VERY different viewpoint. Try losing $20-30k and see how it would feel.
And before you say, well they kept it in wallet, well Ross stated there was a plan B. How did that work out?
Also, most of the funds went in pending escrow.
Let's not be under ANY doubt - this is the last time SR can survive. If this get's downed then say bye for good.
Locking a thread? LOL is this what Amerika (sic) has now become? This is not an argument. I hear an Aussie vendor who's trying to get met half way. I agree. We trusted. We paid % on sales so YES we do deserve a break. Mistakes were made. Greed & denial got in the way of best method OPSEC. Maybe pride too but I do not know Ross so that's a guess but to say waaaa-waaaa I don't like what's being said we are all brothers & sisters???!!! NO ! Vendors are here to earn. Buyers want to get stoned. We can chat, yes but FFS let's get the facts straight. I am not on MDMA & not feeling the oneness at the moment, sorry - this is business. I'll hug you at a rave some other time maybe.

Vendors understood the risks with doing business through a hidden service like SR.

They very well may have a different opinion but it makes not one difference as to what needs to be done.
Stand up and continue on in the war. This isn't a game and there were many economic casualties involved, So be it. We all understand to the fullest what we are risking in this.

Sitting back and crying over pieces of paper (which aren't worth a thing) that are backed by false treasuries will accomplish nothing. We fight for freedom to do what we all have the right do as human beings, whatever we please (so long as it doesn't involve harming others). We damn sure aren't fighting for money. Any vendors/buyers who have been hurt financially in this fiasco, I send my condolences but please realize what and who you really are in this world. You are the Men and Women who will revolutionize the world.

-Baggie

[UKP2014]

True. Ross saw this as Tor, free speech & freedom. All very well & good but he was running a multi-million $ business & let politics get in the way so the best way to fight any war is to beat them with the best security available & this needs some debate and not brotherly love, though that has its place of course. One cannot exist without the other. As you would not go to a gunfight with a knife, to the ends you envisage many changes must be made & if DPR or the Round Table cannot convince old/new vendors/buyers then who will?

Also, do not forget most vendors were small time. They lost $$$ which buys stock which makes $$$ for more stock so no stock no vendors, no listings, no SR2. Many have already settled in to Sheep/BMR. They will then need another investment for SR2 & need convincing. It's not so simple as saying we are Silk Road - we are Legion. Things have changed and the more time rolls on the more chance SR will just be consigned to the history books. That said, I have NOT signed to Sheep. I am putting my faith in SR and only sell on BMR as I set an account up many moons back. I want SR to work - I miss it hence why there must be debate, opinions & critique. To make a clone (which will not happen) would be the death of it. You cannot turn back time - things change & Sr needs to be several steps ahead with more backups than a woman trying to parallel park (sorry just my observation on girl drivers)

[Baggie]

True. Ross saw this as Tor, free speech & freedom. All very well & good but he was running a multi-million $ business & let politics get in the way so the best way to fight any war is to beat them with the best security available & this needs some debate and not brotherly love, though that has its place of course. One cannot exist without the other. As you would not go to a gunfight with a knife, to the ends you envisage many changes must be made & if DPR or the Round Table cannot convince old/new vendors/buyers then who will?

Also, do not forget most vendors were small time. They lost $$$ which buys stock which makes $$$ for more stock so no stock no vendors, no listings, no SR2. Many have already settled in to Sheep/BMR. They will then need another investment for SR2 & need convincing. It's not so simple as saying we are Silk Road - we are Legion. Things have changed and the more time rolls on the more chance SR will just be consigned to the history books. That said, I have NOT signed to Sheep. I am putting my faith in SR and only sell on BMR as I set an account up many moons back. I want SR to work - I miss it hence why there must be debate, opinions & critique. To make a clone (which will not happen) would be the death of it. You cannot turn back time - things change & Sr needs to be several steps ahead with more backups than a woman trying to parallel park (sorry just my observation on girl drivers)

This was the best anyone could have said it. +1 to you comrade.

[X]

Vendors are already aware of the fees charged but I have instructed them to keep it within the roundtable until the public release of the site since they could still be changed. The overall response to the fee structure has been positive from what I gather.

And I haven't seen threads or posts from those in the know bitching about them, DPR, so I doubt they'll leave instead of dealing with your commission.

[zazu]

It may have the name SR but it is a new site with new people.  $600 vendor bonds and high commission with higher prices and FE ''because we know what happened with old SR'' will probably not work.  Obviously we haven't heard the fees yet but it will take a while for this site to work properly.  Vendors and buyers need all the initial encouragement to get the ball rolling.

[waiting4sr]

Any way we could get a mod to lock this thread? This is doing absolutely nothing to help with all that has happened.

We are a community and are brothers and sisters and have been toe to toe with LE throughout this entire online drug-trade from the start. Be kind to each other and help to bring back the peaceful community we once had (More secure).

Work to better yourselves people. I think this should have shown us all just how serious this war really is.

LOCK THE THREAD!?  its forum for discussion and resalution , all i want is to discuss the problems in the past so they dont happen in the future and yes i do have the right to speak my mind and askabout fees and charges with out being attacked from every angle ,

I TOTALLY UNDERSTAND THE WAY THE THREAD WAS STARTED WAS NOT RIGHT AND I SHOULD HAVE TAKEN A DIFFRENT APPROACH
BUT THERE WAS TOTALLY NO NEED FOR ALL THE CRAP THAT WAS SAID ME MYSELF INCLUDED ,

we are comunity and we shall try and stick together , i am a true beliver in if your not harming , or anyone u should have all the right in the world to do what the fuck u want , hence the reason why i was a massive fan of sr

 

[waiting4sr]

Any way we could get a mod to lock this thread? This is doing absolutely nothing to help with all that has happened.

We are a community and are brothers and sisters and have been toe to toe with LE throughout this entire online drug-trade from the start. Be kind to each other and help to bring back the peaceful community we once had (More secure).

Work to better yourselves people. I think this should have shown us all just how serious this war really is.

Couldn't agree more, but when someone comes in here acting like the marketplace owes them something for being a member they couldn't be more wrong. Then talking shit like sheep is better, fees are smaller blah blah. It's just a little silly as we all know Silk Road was by far the most successful hidden marketplace during its peak.
Lets carry on like vendors and not act like spoiled toddlers.

u just cant let it go can u ? u stupid prick !!!! coming in like sr owes me something  ? out of frustration i vented out and read the forum u goose as i stated i was way out of line to start the thread like that , and as for talking about sheep is better and BLAH BLAH BLAH no son i didnt say no such thing and to honest ive beenin panic mode everyday since i signed up there cause i am scared that something will go wrong and i will loose again but some of us dont have a choice cause we hAVE bills to pay , we sit here and talk about frienship and flowers bt the reality still is u dont pay your debt in the real world u get knocked off ,when i was on sr i never once thought something like that could happen , to me dpr was some fuckng mad genius hidden away in europe somewhere lol i was wrong and i paid

So seriously unless u have something positive to add to the thread dont say nothing at all

[waiting4sr]

True. Ross saw this as Tor, free speech & freedom. All very well & good but he was running a multi-million $ business & let politics get in the way so the best way to fight any war is to beat them with the best security available & this needs some debate and not brotherly love, though that has its place of course. One cannot exist without the other. As you would not go to a gunfight with a knife, to the ends you envisage many changes must be made & if DPR or the Round Table cannot convince old/new vendors/buyers then who will?

Also, do not forget most vendors were small time. They lost $$$ which buys stock which makes $$$ for more stock so no stock no vendors, no listings, no SR2. Many have already settled in to Sheep/BMR. They will then need another investment for SR2 & need convincing. It's not so simple as saying we are Silk Road - we are Legion. Things have changed and the more time rolls on the more chance SR will just be consigned to the history books. That said, I have NOT signed to Sheep. I am putting my faith in SR and only sell on BMR as I set an account up many moons back. I want SR to work - I miss it hence why there must be debate, opinions & critique. To make a clone (which will not happen) would be the death of it. You cannot turn back time - things change & Sr needs to be several steps ahead with more backups than a woman trying to parallel park (sorry just my observation on girl drivers)

So no debate, bury heads in sand, pretend nothing happened & get screwed.
This was a forum last time I looked.
Being a buyer I would say STFU just get on here and sell.
Certain vendors will have a VERY different viewpoint. Try losing $20-30k and see how it would feel.
And before you say, well they kept it in wallet, well Ross stated there was a plan B. How did that work out?
Also, most of the funds went in pending escrow.
Let's not be under ANY doubt - this is the last time SR can survive. If this get's downed then say bye for good.
Locking a thread? LOL is this what Amerika (sic) has now become? This is not an argument. I hear an Aussie vendor who's trying to get met half way. I agree. We trusted. We paid % on sales so YES we do deserve a break. Mistakes were made. Greed & denial got in the way of best method OPSEC. Maybe pride too but I do not know Ross so that's a guess but to say waaaa-waaaa I don't like what's being said we are all brothers & sisters???!!! NO ! Vendors are here to earn. Buyers want to get stoned. We can chat, yes but FFS let's get the facts straight. I am not on MDMA & not feeling the oneness at the moment, sorry - this is business. I'll hug you at a rave some other time maybe.

this guys is an absalute FUCKING LEGEND , if there was mod's like this bloke on the forum so many problems will get solved with resulting to insults

[Maestro]

I agree that this thread should be locked. If you then want to continue this discussion (if you can call it that), you all can continue it in a new thread where you all can try to remain civil with each other instead of throwing around insults like children.

To the OP: Acting the way you are definitely isn't going to help you getting your vendor status reinstated if you ever had it.

[UKP2014]

I agree that this thread should be locked. If you then want to continue this discussion (if you can call it that), you all can continue it in a new thread where you all can try to remain civil with each other instead of throwing around insults like children.

To the OP: Acting the way you are definitely isn't going to help you getting your vendor status reinstated if you ever had it.

Again, why lock a debate? Were you born in Stepford USA? (re. the film) also try 'They Live' & put the sunglasses on (Obey?) Observational aside apart........
A. Debate is vital.
B. Oh dear the OP started the thread emotionally - what a crime or a 'mistake'? Let's not go down the 'mistake' line or I feel a can of bad memories may get opened, eh? It's certainly not a crime either so what's your point?
C. Not sure if you live in the new Obama nation where descent & differing opinions are seen as treason to the 'man'; but this is Tor. Tor was used during the Arab Spring. Still used by opposition debate in many countries where free speech can get you killed thus to say 'shut up & lock' does not sit well with me on a Tor platform, sorry.

Freedom of speech is everything on Tor.

“Those who surrender freedom for security will not have, nor do they deserve, either one.”

― Benjamin Franklin

[waiting4sr]

I agree that this thread should be locked. If you then want to continue this discussion (if you can call it that), you all can continue it in a new thread where you all can try to remain civil with each other instead of throwing around insults like children.

To the OP: Acting the way you are definitely isn't going to help you getting your vendor status reinstated if you ever had it.

dosent anyone get the point we are not asking for free vendor accoun, for fuck sake ill burn 500 and it would not phase me , we are only expressing what ideas that the road should be more vendor friendly , if can lower the sale fees , help one another as said by the other member some of the vendors were onloy small time and lost preety much everything they had  , and by helping out make the site grow to where it was
before , i can only guess everyone who is having a go at this thread has been granted free vendorship congrats to you and i hope u do well
but asking to lock this because u dont agree what some of us are saying well dont read it , simple

[WickedWords]

@waiting4sr: Your use of written English hurts my eyes.

[JohnTheBaptist]

@waiting4sr: Your use of written English hurts my eyes.

This ^^^^^^^^^

[babeandweed]

@waiting4sr: Your use of written English hurts my eyes.

@waiting4sr: Your use of written English hurts my eyes.

lol ive been reading this topic and the only thoughts that pop in my head is ----> Wrong
This person is trying to express his thoughts and his getting bullied like i kid at school , only one other individual stuck up for him and yet  none of you still don't understand the problem , i am guessing simple minds cant break the code , or they just dont want hear anyone else's thought cause there all right and this individual is wrong

WickedWords one question why would u even bother typing that , dont u have anything better to do , grow up
and the rest of you who are on the same page as this person , if u have nothing positive to add to this why even bother wasting your time and typing crap

My self i was never a vendor but sr was my main supplier helping me get through college and before it went down i had 1500 in escrow To some it might be peanuts but to a student that was a bit of money ,
Would i ever go back to sr NO thank you , its tainted and marked and it will go down again , do i shop anywhere else no <not here to advertise> tor is also unsafe do the research

after i finsih what i have to say i will delete this account as i dont want anything to do with sr or any other website.

Three hero's or vendors have asked to have this blocked , there goes the freedom this site did at one stage stand for.

The way most of u replied to this thread was down right appalling and DPR (claims to be) didnt even bother to intervene , congrats , your doing great job

[waiting4sr]

@waiting4sr: Your use of written English hurts my eyes.

This ^^^^^^^^^

thanks john that reall helped the thread

[WickedWords]

none of you still don't understand the problem , i am guessing simple minds cant break the code

I understand the problem, but the way it's articulated hurts my eyes.

@waiting4sr: Your use of written English hurts my eyes.

WickedWords one question why would u even bother typing that , dont u have anything better to do , grow up

Because it hurts my eyes. Perhaps the OP should also grow up - his or her responses have all been immature and aggressive.

@waiting4sr: Your use of written English hurts my eyes.

This ^^^^^^^^^

thanks john that reall helped the thread

I don't think he was trying to help.

[babeandweed]

none of you still don't understand the problem , i am guessing simple minds cant break the code

I understand the problem, but the way it's articulated hurts my eyes.

@waiting4sr: Your use of written English hurts my eyes.
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WickedWords one question why would u even bother typing that , dont u have anything better to do , grow up

Because it hurts my eyes. Perhaps the OP should also grow up - his or her responses have all been immature and aggressive.

@waiting4sr: Your use of written English hurts my eyes.

This ^^^^^^^^^

thanks john that reall helped the thread

I don't think he was trying to help.

1l:I understand the problem, but the way it's articulated hurts my eyes. ->>>>> stop reading the topic  , or get your eyes checked ,i dont see u getting paid to read ??

2: Because it hurts my eyes. Perhaps the OP should also grow up - his or her responses have all been immature and aggressive. --->>> not sticking up for person but he/or she did  on few replys that the topic could have been started alot better then it did , so immature and aggressive was dropped once he realised it wasnt the correct way to start a topic

and also he was told get fucked and  F off a few times and being bullied will make someone more aggressive dont you think , and even after all when it started to become a civil topic You and John chuck i the last 2 childish comments

ive been reading alot of the topics and there is so much immature and aggressive crap being said on alot of the topics instead of promoting the new sr its making a joke out of it , and the ones who are commenting are either vendors,long time members,staff

the new sr in my opnion is starting to look like a circus  unless the new mods can keep threads to actually being civil without childish commenting

my thoughts

[CLKR]

This thread made me chuckle. the gist is 'I WAS A MEGA SUPER VENDOR BEFORE, I LOST MONEY WHEN SR WENT DOWN THEREFORE I AM ENTITLED SO GIVE ME A NEW ACCOUNT FOR FREE AND DONT CHARGE ANY FEES OR ELSE FUCK YOU ALL'

Shits fucking retarded, but amused me. That being said, there's a lot to be said for not charging the extortionate amount that the old dpr did for very high value orders

[MrPharmacist]

So no debate, bury heads in sand, pretend nothing happened & get screwed.
This was a forum last time I looked.
Being a buyer I would say STFU just get on here and sell.
Certain vendors will have a VERY different viewpoint. Try losing $20-30k and see how it would feel.
And before you say, well they kept it in wallet, well Ross stated there was a plan B. How did that work out?
Also, most of the funds went in pending escrow.
Let's not be under ANY doubt - this is the last time SR can survive. If this get's downed then say bye for good.
Locking a thread? LOL is this what Amerika (sic) has now become? This is not an argument. I hear an Aussie vendor who's trying to get met half way. I agree. We trusted. We paid % on sales so YES we do deserve a break. Mistakes were made. Greed & denial got in the way of best method OPSEC. Maybe pride too but I do not know Ross so that's a guess but to say waaaa-waaaa I don't like what's being said we are all brothers & sisters???!!! NO ! Vendors are here to earn. Buyers want to get stoned. We can chat, yes but FFS let's get the facts straight. I am not on MDMA & not feeling the oneness at the moment, sorry - this is business. I'll hug you at a rave some other time maybe.

Vendors understood the risks with doing business through a hidden service like SR.

They very well may have a different opinion but it makes not one difference as to what needs to be done.
Stand up and continue on in the war. This isn't a game and there were many economic casualties involved, So be it. We all understand to the fullest what we are risking in this.

Sitting back and crying over pieces of paper (which aren't worth a thing) that are backed by false treasuries will accomplish nothing. We fight for freedom to do what we all have the right do as human beings, whatever we please (so long as it doesn't involve harming others). We damn sure aren't fighting for money. Any vendors/buyers who have been hurt financially in this fiasco, I send my condolences but please realize what and who you really are in this world. You are the Men and Women who will revolutionize the world.

-Baggie

Yup, agree with you Baggie.  Everyone is gutted for the buyers/sellers that lost money (big and small), but we all knew the risks.  People need to remember, this is an illegal drug marketplace, NOT a department store!    For anyone criticizing the bond and fees on the old SR (or new SR!) remember, nobody is forcing you to sell your product(s) here. It's your decision.

[UKP2014]

This thread made me chuckle. the gist is 'I WAS A MEGA SUPER VENDOR BEFORE, I LOST MONEY WHEN SR WENT DOWN THEREFORE I AM ENTITLED SO GIVE ME A NEW ACCOUNT FOR FREE AND DONT CHARGE ANY FEES OR ELSE FUCK YOU ALL'

Shits fucking retarded, but amused me. That being said, there's a lot to be said for not charging the extortionate amount that the old dpr did for very high value orders

Actually you just amused me as if you read the original OP's message as wanting a free lunch with no fees then there must be some heavy shit gear out there I don't know about which obviously you are on and I am pretty jealous I am in the dark about this compound. Must be one of the new legal highs, who knows!

The latter part of your over did make some sense however.

Actually, and this is no point score attempt, I find almost all of you on here have totally lost the message the OP was making. It was very clear to me. Instead you choose to focus on his supposed aggression (which I call human emotion given the shit that's happened) &, lowest of all, his spelling & grammar. On the latter point who cares so long as he gets his point across. I understood it. I can also understand (and disagree) with other's points of view. That's debate, no?
Let's get this clear: We all want SR2 to succeed. I actually feel the OP wants this a LOT more than the attackers of him. He has a vested interest after all. Also, I personally would hate to vend from Australia. Their customs are run like a Borg cube, hence the higher prices. He is taking more risk I have no doubt.
While I may disagree with a lot that's been said, especially locking a thread for God's sake, I respect your right to say it, so can we all play nice & leave out the disrespectful terms as I am no better than you - or worse - we have equal views regardless of your overwhelming trust in your opinion being correct. 

[CLKR]

Aye some pretty stonking gear round hgere atm