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when will new market be live?
« on: October 10, 2013, 08:36:44 am »
couple days?
couple weeks?
couple months?
couple years?

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Re: when will new market be live?
« Reply #1 on: October 10, 2013, 08:38:59 am »
who cares? we don't need to know ahead of time.

Best to use the element of surprise.

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« Reply #2 on: October 10, 2013, 08:45:17 am »
who cares? we don't need to know ahead of time.

Best to use the element of surprise.

who cares?

vendors that need to get back to buisness to be able to feed their children.
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Re: when will new market be live?
« Reply #3 on: October 10, 2013, 09:15:22 am »
who cares? we don't need to know ahead of time.

Best to use the element of surprise.
From a business and work-related stand-point, I care.

A lot of us former vendors fit it around a daily routine or schedule that works around our lifestyle and/or day jobs. Heck, some vendors are in "career mode" with the market.

Please rethink the "it'll be up, when it's up" way of thinking. Even a rough estimated time would do wonders.

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« Reply #4 on: October 10, 2013, 09:57:16 am »
Be patient, its in your best interest.

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« Reply #5 on: October 10, 2013, 10:00:09 am »
Somewhere between days and weeks. When we have a launch date, we will add a countdown timer to the big launch.
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Re: when will new market be live?
« Reply #6 on: October 10, 2013, 10:03:42 am »
How do we even know this site is legit? It takes months to set up a site. Why so sudden?

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« Reply #7 on: October 10, 2013, 10:04:26 am »
Somewhere between days and weeks. When we have a launch date, we will add a countdown timer to the big launch.

Count down time.

Like a game console release day. When it hits zero you can have drugs and bitcoins shoot out of it.

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« Reply #8 on: October 10, 2013, 10:05:13 am »
How do we even know this site is legit? It takes months to set up a site. Why so sudden?

They are working with backups. Cut the time down alot.

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« Reply #9 on: October 10, 2013, 10:05:53 am »
@ Mr Lucy

If you trust the old staff from the original SR, and trust that their forum handles weren't all compromised (and that LE managed to match their writing styles to perfection), you can trust this new site.

If you don't, you can't.

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« Reply #10 on: October 10, 2013, 10:56:03 am »
Looking forward to this...Call me naive but I just get a really, REALLY good feeling about this

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« Reply #11 on: October 10, 2013, 11:21:42 am »
who cares? we don't need to know ahead of time.

Best to use the element of surprise.

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« Reply #12 on: October 10, 2013, 11:32:07 am »
For those unaware, it is obvious that the new DPR clearly doesn't want to set a release date as it would mean that he would be working toward meeting a deadline and not meeting the security requirements of the website he is creating. Be thankful that he/she is taking security as seriously as possible - it will save us ALL in the future.

For those vendors out there, sheep and BMR are available in the mean time and I'm sure they could do with your services.

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Re: when will new market be live?
« Reply #13 on: October 10, 2013, 12:57:26 pm »
@ Mr Lucy

If you trust the old staff from the original SR, and trust that their forum handles weren't all compromised (and that LE managed to match their writing styles to perfection), you can trust this new site.

If you don't, you can't.

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Re: when will new market be live?
« Reply #14 on: October 10, 2013, 02:38:16 pm »
Hey folks,

Thanks for the rough timeline, much appreciated. 

Any tips for vendors/buyers who want to hit the ground running on day 1?  For example, I'm getting the impression that a buyer running orbot on a phone and who has never used PGP may have some homework to do. 

Please, give us some homework!

Cheers

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« Reply #15 on: October 10, 2013, 02:50:54 pm »
Good things are always worth waiting for. 

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Re: when will new market be live?
« Reply #16 on: October 10, 2013, 02:52:03 pm »
Hey folks,

Thanks for the rough timeline, much appreciated. 

Any tips for vendors/buyers who want to hit the ground running on day 1?  For example, I'm getting the impression that a buyer running orbot on a phone and who has never used PGP may have some homework to do. 

Please, give us some homework!

Cheers
honestly I would only ever use orbot for browsing,  AFAIK there is no good PGP program for Android
people alot smarter than me might know better but I've not found one myself that's reliable and I don't know how safe orbot and Android are.
It might make things easier. But easier is not always better.
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Re: when will new market be live?
« Reply #17 on: October 10, 2013, 03:18:10 pm »
Hey folks,

Thanks for the rough timeline, much appreciated. 

Any tips for vendors/buyers who want to hit the ground running on day 1?  For example, I'm getting the impression that a buyer running orbot on a phone and who has never used PGP may have some homework to do. 

Please, give us some homework!

Cheers
honestly I would only ever use orbot for browsing,  AFAIK there is no good PGP program for Android
people alot smarter than me might know better but I've not found one myself that's reliable and I don't know how safe orbot and Android are.
It might make things easier. But easier is not always better.

Thanks seventysix76 (76 squared?),

Agreed.  I think I garbled my own question by focusing on the technology rather than the skills.  I guess what I'm asking for is a "minimum qualifications"-type list like what we see in job postings. 

1. knowledge and ability to use TOR
2. knowledge of PGP encryption using public keys
3. ??Knowledge and ability to use and maintain a private key??
4. ??Knowledge and ability to verify PGP signatures??
5 ??

The minimum requirement to be a buyer on Silk Road Classic was #1. 

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« Reply #18 on: October 10, 2013, 03:41:44 pm »
Hey folks,

Thanks for the rough timeline, much appreciated. 

Any tips for vendors/buyers who want to hit the ground running on day 1?  For example, I'm getting the impression that a buyer running orbot on a phone and who has never used PGP may have some homework to do. 

Please, give us some homework!

Cheers
honestly I would only ever use orbot for browsing,  AFAIK there is no good PGP program for Android
people alot smarter than me might know better but I've not found one myself that's reliable and I don't know how safe orbot and Android are.
It might make things easier. But easier is not always better.

Thanks seventysix76 (76 squared?),

Agreed.  I think I garbled my own question by focusing on the technology rather than the skills.  I guess what I'm asking for is a "minimum qualifications"-type list like what we see in job postings. 

1. knowledge and ability to use TOR
2. knowledge of PGP encryption using public keys
3. ??Knowledge and ability to use and maintain a private key??
4. ??Knowledge and ability to verify PGP signatures??
5 ??

The minimum requirement to be a buyer on Silk Road Classic was #1. 

Cheers
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Re: when will new market be live?
« Reply #19 on: October 10, 2013, 03:42:53 pm »
Thanks seventysix76 (76 squared?)

If seventysix was the number 76, and 76 represented an algebraic symbol that we knew to have the value of 76, this would be correct. Just like 2x (where x = 2) would be 2 squared.

I see you're a bit of a mathematician?

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« Reply #20 on: October 10, 2013, 04:08:54 pm »
Thanks seventysix76 (76 squared?)

If seventysix was the number 76, and 76 represented an algebraic symbol that we knew to have the value of 76, this would be correct. Just like 2x (where x = 2) would be 2 squared.

I see you're a bit of a mathematician?

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« Reply #21 on: October 10, 2013, 04:26:35 pm »
I'll be patiently waiting.  8) 8)

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« Reply #22 on: October 10, 2013, 04:33:53 pm »
I can get "V" to 100 posts in no time solely on the basis of making fun of my math skills!  :-)

Making fun? Au contraire, my friend. Rather, I'm admiring and analyzing your casual observation :-)
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« Reply #23 on: October 10, 2013, 05:09:56 pm »
But who have the balls to buy on Day1 :3

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« Reply #24 on: October 10, 2013, 05:14:08 pm »
But who have the balls to buy on Day1 :3

If I can identify a vendor that I trust through his pgp I will buy on day 1

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« Reply #25 on: October 10, 2013, 05:21:59 pm »
Somewhere between days and weeks. When we have a launch date, we will add a countdown timer to the big launch.

Normally I'd think implementing a timer spells disaster (traffic), but is this intentional? To help gauge load limitations?
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« Reply #26 on: October 10, 2013, 05:28:07 pm »
But who have the balls to buy on Day1 :3

Me. First, I trust the intentions of neo-DPR and the other couple of users that have moved over here. This is because nobody's giving us an exact date: the way I figure, if the feds were in charge of this new thing it would be up already.

I also know that I'm quite safe considering I'm only a buyer. I can see a problem with vendors not moving over through suspicion, but we'll have the same security and plausible deniability that we had before. I just hope to shit that PGP is unconditionally required this time.

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« Reply #27 on: October 10, 2013, 05:33:34 pm »
But who have the balls to buy on Day1 :3

Me. First, I trust the intentions of neo-DPR and the other couple of users that have moved over here. This is because nobody's giving us an exact date: the way I figure, if the feds were in charge of this new thing it would be up already.

I also know that I'm quite safe considering I'm only a buyer. I can see a problem with vendors not moving over through suspicion, but we'll have the same security and plausible deniability that we had before. I just hope to shit that PGP is unconditionally required this time.

agree.Don t  see the point for the feds to open up a new site,
they wouldn t have shut down the site in first place
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« Reply #28 on: October 10, 2013, 05:36:16 pm »
I hope vendors are switching up package labels....     

i know a good amount of the vendors had tons and tons of customers who didn't use pgp encryption.  Your packaging can easily be flagged.
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« Reply #29 on: October 10, 2013, 05:56:51 pm »
But who have the balls to buy on Day1 :3

If I can identify a vendor that I trust through his pgp I will buy on day 1

I second this, With the right validation of the vendor in question I would most deff grab off the new road on day #1
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« Reply #30 on: October 10, 2013, 06:26:17 pm »
How do we even know this site is legit? It takes months to set up a site. Why so sudden?

They are working with backups. Cut the time down alot.

Working with backups? They don't have any copy of the server more than anyone else has. They are verifying vendors through the old Silkroad forum, so if it was that they had access to backups they wouldn't need to do that. Besides if they had backups, it wouldn't take more than a couple of hours at most to get started again. They are building an entirely new site for sure.

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« Reply #31 on: October 11, 2013, 10:28:54 am »
How do we even know this site is legit? It takes months to set up a site. Why so sudden?

They are working with backups. Cut the time down alot.

Working with backups? They don't have any copy of the server more than anyone else has. They are verifying vendors through the old Silkroad forum, so if it was that they had access to backups they wouldn't need to do that. Besides if they had backups, it wouldn't take more than a couple of hours at most to get started again. They are building an entirely new site for sure.

you are ignorant so please stop spreading bs
here is backups used to identify vendors

https://anonfiles.com/file/2cb4eefb1492f43b9510a6186bc66259
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« Reply #32 on: October 11, 2013, 10:31:17 am »
How do we even know this site is legit? It takes months to set up a site. Why so sudden?

They are working with backups. Cut the time down alot.

Working with backups? They don't have any copy of the server more than anyone else has. They are verifying vendors through the old Silkroad forum, so if it was that they had access to backups they wouldn't need to do that. Besides if they had backups, it wouldn't take more than a couple of hours at most to get started again. They are building an entirely new site for sure.

you are ignorant so please stop spreading false statement
here is backups used to identify vendors

https://anonfiles.com/file/2cb4eefb1492f43b9510a6186bc66259

That's not really the backup he's talking about... just an old scrape of all the SR vendor pages.

Keywords: They don't have any copy of the server more than anyone else has

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« Reply #33 on: October 11, 2013, 10:34:35 am »
How do we even know this site is legit? It takes months to set up a site. Why so sudden?

They are working with backups. Cut the time down alot.

Working with backups? They don't have any copy of the server more than anyone else has. They are verifying vendors through the old Silkroad forum, so if it was that they had access to backups they wouldn't need to do that. Besides if they had backups, it wouldn't take more than a couple of hours at most to get started again. They are building an entirely new site for sure.

you are ignorant so please stop spreading false statement
here is backups used to identify vendors

https://anonfiles.com/file/2cb4eefb1492f43b9510a6186bc66259

That's not really the backup he's talking about... just an old scrape of all the SR vendor pages.

Keywords: They don't have any copy of the server more than anyone else has

who they?

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« Reply #34 on: October 11, 2013, 02:12:17 pm »
Somewhere between days and weeks. When we have a launch date, we will add a countdown timer to the big launch.

I like that answer.
Thanks in advance.

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« Reply #35 on: October 11, 2013, 07:18:07 pm »
new forum and website could be run by Obama himself it really doesn t matter as long as you
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« Reply #36 on: October 11, 2013, 08:02:05 pm »
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« Reply #37 on: October 11, 2013, 08:13:44 pm »
PGP + If it's too good to be true, it's LE/Scam!

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« Reply #38 on: October 11, 2013, 08:14:32 pm »
I'm longing already! Sadly I had some orders in transit when the site went down and have been dry for over a month before that already so really would like some new wares soon :P
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« Reply #39 on: October 11, 2013, 08:16:42 pm »
+1
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« Reply #40 on: October 11, 2013, 09:25:21 pm »
Do not rush with this, make it secure and much better than the old SR !!
Waaaaaaaaaay betta

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« Reply #41 on: October 12, 2013, 12:44:59 am »
Do not rush with this, make it secure and much better than the old SR !!
Waaaaaaaaaay betta
Agreed