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Discussion => Silk Road discussion => Topic started by: qrbr6 on July 17, 2013, 05:46 pm
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It only shows back as far as one year when it used to be all time back when I was on here a lot. Now it looks like I don't have such great stats (about 800 spent when it was in fact 1000s). I see this as a disadvantage to anyone who wants to come back here after a long time and not buy drugs monthly. Am I missing something here, is there a reason why this was implemented?
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Hell I am a buyer and seller and I think this is great. Look at all the long-time vendors who were so trusted that everyone would FE, then baaaaaam, they are gone with thousands and more than likely planned ahead and have another account with good feedback to do it all over again after a few months.
Think about it, they are making bank selling and really getting lots of fast money, with not time/work/resources involved when they go rogue. Keep accounts rolling like that and you always got steady income with biyearly "bonuses" in the form of our BTC that we gave them with trust prior to receiving out product.
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That's true for the sellers since there have been some scams so it makes sense. But it does nothing but disadvantage the buyers.
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yeah, it should at least say how long the person has been a member for, ive been a member near 2 years and it just says 1 year now, lol !!!!!!
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Yeah, I don't like this update. My refund rate was going down as I was having successful transactions after the refund. Now it shows up as either 0% or 17%. It also doesn't show the date registered. I like to be able to check SR and see how much money I've spent on drugs so far in my life (just for fun). After 5 more months, I'm not going to be able to do this because then it'll hit the one year mark. Grr.
I always try to keep things in perspective. It's wonderful we have SR and I'm very thankful but fuck that part of the recent updates.
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Glad to see people agree with me.
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I agree, cmon people rise your hands against this cutting down your buyer stats, making you look like a newbie for vendors.
DPR and others, before making any decisions in site working and logic, think two-three steps ahead.
And don't make changes, only in the name of changes.
Please return as it was, full all-time statistics, so vendors could see who is newbie or who is the man 8)
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I can see why DPR has done this , buyers go rogue too
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I can see why DPR has done this , buyers go rogue too
I can't tell if this is sarcastic or not
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I can see why DPR has done this , buyers go rogue too
Yeah man the buyers are going to use their all time rep from years past and use it to get vendors to send their shipment outisde of the escrow process and scam all the vendors!
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This is beyond fucked up, I do get the one month, three month, one year break down but for us to lose our total stats? Very bad move! Im already down 5 transactions and 15k....I have not had to order for a while as ive been focused on other things that did not require me to use SR. So this means in a few more weeks i'll lose the last of my stats and end up with a 1 year account with a clean transaction history or one that does not do me justice as it will have only two orders or so that dont even come close to anything more then 8% total amount spent? This means when I want to deal with a very large transaction of 5k+ vendors might not want to deal with me or request me to FE which I wont.
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SERIOUS IDEA: maybe we should make an official thread titled "Official thread to get purchasing stats back" or something along those lines. There people could voice why they dislike it. Anybody who likes it the new way can also explain why that's so and it'd all be in one area. We could include a poll too!
I really think this is something we should try. It would be our way to peacefully protest the change. After all, DPR is here to serve us as his motto "As you wish" clearly states.
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SERIOUS IDEA: maybe we should make an official thread titled "Official thread to get purchasing stats back" or something along those lines. There people could voice why they dislike it. Anybody who likes it the new way can also explain why that's so and it'd all be in one area. We could include a poll too!
I really think this is something we should try. It would be our way to peacefully protest the change. After all, DPR is here to serve us as his motto "As you wish" clearly states.
Make it, n i'll post.
1st it was 2k and now im out 15k total stats...next thing you now my 30k is gone. DPR I love you, I owe you my life as ive said before but your killing me with this!!! If you take away my stats then make vendors stick to escrow no matter amount spent or transactions! I know they wont like that but its the same us is it not? When you have high stats you get a perk, now the vendors ive used are gone or dont offer what I want anymore so I head off to a new one. This the point of SR right? waaaiiit, now they see im 1 year old an have no stats? Gee thanks!
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DP, sory
Ok, a few are still around but in the end saying we need to spend X a month to keep with vendor wishes which is BS since the 1st rule is to never FE. Regardless I love you DPR but dont make it into the comical Asian store deal, you buy you buy now!!
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DP, sory
Ok, a few are still around but in the end saying we need to spend X a month to keep with vendor wishes which is BS since the 1st rule is to never FE. Regardless I love you DPR but dont make it into the comical Asian store deal, you buy you buy now!!
Agree 100%. I think several people in this thread have put forward logical reasoning why BUYERS need all time stats. If anyone has a serious reason as to why not I would hear you out. I think this should be brought to the attention of DPR. I will message him. Does anyone know if he is too busy to read all mail?
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DP, sory
Ok, a few are still around but in the end saying we need to spend X a month to keep with vendor wishes which is BS since the 1st rule is to never FE. Regardless I love you DPR but dont make it into the comical Asian store deal, you buy you buy now!!
Agree 100%. I think several people in this thread have put forward logical reasoning why BUYERS need all time stats. If anyone has a serious reason as to why not I would hear you out. I think this should be brought to the attention of DPR. I will message him. Does anyone know if he is too busy to read all mail?
Well, more reason for my idea I talked about earlier. We could send DPR a link to the thread. Anyway, if you message DPR, you should at least include the link to this thread.
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Wow, really bummed out about this....The amount I've spent and the number of purchases displayed are now HALF of what used to be shown....As much as I love DPR and the staff, this new format sure sucks for buyers like me....PLEASE have some mercy on us and give us the old format back!
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Yeah I linked the thread DPR, I'm not sure if he gets too many emails to read it. Perhaps others should message him.
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What I wonder is if he can roll it back or if they truly are gone. I mean in the end at worst we will have to rebuild the history which means more smaller orders, more drops, more risk but if that's what we have to do then we will do it just having to do it every year? My refund an auto fin stats where always at a zero n will remain that way so over all its more of pain in the ass for us people who abide by comment sense and proper acetic
The issue is vendors have policy's, "you must have A amount of orders or B amount of money spent or you must FE". So once our stats drop out we will have no choice to FE or look for other vendors who we may not want to deal with due to lower quality product or stealth. My whole point is if vendors can request your stats to be at a certain level then by removing our overall stats you are hurting the customers. I do like the idea of seeing what was spent in a 1 month, 3 month or 1 year time line but the overall stats must stay. Vendors have the ability to go stealth so how come customers do not? I know many people who use SR take breaks. Whats the point of making money if you cant enjoy it? Now for the other issue, if vendor see how much we have spent in a set amount of time we should be able to see how much they sold, then you can also throw out profiling into the mix as in its own little way that's what this market research type addition really is.
As many saw my spelling and train of thought was a bit warped, sorry was a bit drunk at the time. So now that im sober I thought I'd explain some more. I do hope DPR reverses this Asian grocery store policy.
DPR <3 from me to you, truly even if most of us believe the role changes hands you are a god among men.
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I don't agree with this change...I am a buyer and I need my purchasing stats!!!
I need my stats back!!!!!!!!! Help lol
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Yeah I linked the thread DPR, I'm not sure if he gets too many emails to read it. Perhaps others should message him.
Did He respond?
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He didn't respond to me, he's probably messaged a lot. Everyone in here should message him.
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Yeah I personally liked having the lifetime stats, too.
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I like not being identified as one of the oldest members on SR. a year of feedback is enough to give a vendor an idea. a $100k+ receipt for law enforcement to print out is NOT a good idea.
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I like not being identified as one of the oldest members on SR. a year of feedback is enough to give a vendor an idea. a $100k+ receipt for law enforcement to print out is NOT a good idea.
Excellent point. I hadn't even thought of that.
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I posted once about it a while ago, but there in no official policy. right now what we do is archive the data after 4 months. archiving basically strips out all info except what is needed for the stats and keeps the database lean. I removed the "all-time" column after reading this thread to avoid further issues. It's kind of unimportant for judging a buyer and I think it is nicer on the eyes/mind to have 3 instead of 4 data points to look at anyway.
http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=184015.msg1336878#msg1336878
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Hello there, Im agree with all buyers, and I want my buyer stats back too!!!
Everyone in here should message DPR.
In the name of the old druggies, that spend lots of money here
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Hmm I gotta say as a buyer I'm also not a fan of this.. For all the reasons already mentioned. I feel that buyers should know how long people have been about for. Its not fair on all the old school heads..
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I don't think spamming DPR is the way to do it. I think we should have a "spokesperson" message a mod or all of them.
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DPR please bring our all-time purchasing stats back!
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DPR please bring our all-time purchasing stats back!
Yes, please.
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No i dont agree on this change!! Instead of maximizing the admin page, they are reducing it.
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Aaah im not too bothered, it hasn't effected my ability to buy.. Ive been away awhile and too be honest i got bored at looking at my buying stats admiringly.. I only deal with people who use escrow!! Also it shows the length of sr membership.. Lifes too short :D
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This is a big FU to all of us buyers. This is an important part of the stats that vendors judge buyers on so although I'm sure there is a reason for the change it is not the one being fed to us. I'm hugely upset by this as I see so many others are too. Now at least i realize I am not crazy as I've spent close to $1,000 more than is reflected. Please reconsider this DPR. This place would not exist without buyers so our opinions should matter.
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Yeah, the participation of DPR here, is welcomed.
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Another reason I don't like this is because I don't buy frequently. My stats look worse because of that which I think is unfair. Just because I'm not a hardcore addict means people shouldn't trust me as much? I still have the transactions, $ spent, and shit.
Has anybody contacted the mods yet?
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I'll put it on DPR's radar so everyone can stop messaging for the time being. I'm a little fuzzy on why the all time stats were removed, I think there was a kerfuffle in another thread where everyone got up in arms thinking their info was being saved and that may have prompted DPR to remove the data point.
Anyway, I'll draw this matter to his attention, see what happens I guess.
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I didn't foresee the issues this would cause. all-time stats are back.
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Well, it does raise the issue brought up by SS of how you can differentiate one year stats from all time stats unless you keep a monthly log of these basic stats. I think as long as the transaction data is gone, people are fine with it. In other words, keeping old records around of specific transactions creates a liability in the event the transaction database is compromised, and at no real benefit because old transactions are not actionable (can't go into resolution, etc.), while simple aggregate monthly statistics, stripped of identifying info about the specific buyers, vendors, and products, will suffice to build buyer stats.
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I didn't foresee the issues this would cause. all-time stats are back.
It's good to see you're actively taking into consideration the thoughts and ideas of the community. Thank you for bringing back the stats and thank you for creating this wonderful movement ;D
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kerfuffle
lol it's been awhile since I've heard that one again :P
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I didn't foresee the issues this would cause. all-time stats are back.
Many thanks, DPR! Just made my day SO much brighter! Excellent customer service....LOVE YA!
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We did it! I love SR!
I see you DanDan and razorboy swooping in for the victory >:(
lol just kidding. We're all winning here! ;D
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Result.
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I just realized this doesn't help my situation all that much. Before stats got changed, I had a refund rate that was higher than I wanted it. It was going down because of my successful transactions. All time stats show my refund rate when it was really high. It's still better since DPR made the modification, I just wanted to point that out. Oh well.
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Thanks DPR!
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I didn't foresee the issues this would cause. all-time stats are back.
You are a living legend.
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I didn't foresee the issues this would cause. all-time stats are back.
DPR I do not know if you read any of my posts, I know you are busy, but I would like to say THANK YOU!
We all owe you or the original person with the idea for SR everything, the level of harm reduction not only through OD's but street violence this place brings is nit computable. Lets not forget the vending aspect as its a great income to many. Regardless DPR, new or old, we all love you and thank you!
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Result.
Wow, this staff is amazing. All of you will be remembered forever.