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Discussion => Silk Road discussion => Topic started by: Dread Pirate Roberts on July 22, 2012, 12:58 am
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UPDATE: the new style has been launched. take a look! If you find any bugs, please message support asap. Thanks :)
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Greetings everyone! It has been some time since I have made an official announcement, and I am very pleased to be making this one today: The look and feel of our beloved market will be transformed in just a few days time!
We have been working tirelessly to deploy many "behind the scenes" upgrades over the past few months that have vastly improved our security, flexibility and availability. These advances aren't sexy, and don't get much fan fair, but hopefully you've noticed the site running smoothly even as our community grows. This kind of work rarely get's acknowledged, so I would just like to applaud everyone on the Silk Road team that has put in the effort to make this possible.
But now, in just a few days, I will have the honor of rolling out a sleek new look that will be impossible to miss and I am sure you all will love. I feel it matches the integrity and professionalism of our community and the robust technology that empowers it. New comers will now have the confidence they need to take that leap of faith and make their first purchase. My hope is that this day will be looked back on as one where we really came into our own and started a new chapter in our quest to stand up for our freedom and declare ownership of ourselves and our bodies.
So you aren't too surprised when the change comes next week, here's a little sneak peak at the new login screen:
http://xfq5l5p4g3eyrct7.onion/view.php?image=ec5bd763f500d3c9d19f9e8ba2bf6107.png
When you see this, NO you are not being phished!
Much love to you all,
Dread Pirate Roberts
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WOOHOO!!! ;D
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Nice to hear from you DPR. Best of luck with all the new stuff :)
Best Regards,
Stormtrooper
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Very cool :)
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werd.
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8) aww yeah 8)
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What was wrong with the old look, it worked for me?
What are the improvements with the new look?
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Awh yeah, moving into the 21st century now. 8)
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Looks great DPR.
But don't act like you have been busy, we all know this site runs it's self and you really don't do much but kick back and count BTC.
In fact I hear you have been on a trip with the 4/20 winner.
I know that all to be true because I have read about it in the Gawker article.
:P
PS. And a big THANK YOU to everyone on the SR team ;D
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What was wrong with the old look, it worked for me?
What are the improvements with the new look?
you'll see ;)
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Sexy stuff DPR, will be looking forward to a change :)
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Fresh new login! The new look should be great if the preview is any indication, and I really do appreciate the behind the scenes work especially security-wise. Thank you ;)
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So you aren't too surprised when the change comes next week, here's a little sneak peak at the new login screen:
http://xfq5l5p4g3eyrct7.onion/view.php?image=ec5bd763f500d3c9d19f9e8ba2bf6107.png
When you see this, NO you are not being phished!
Hate to spoil the celebrations, but...
This msg's PGP signature is bad. Unless I have the wrong public key for DPR, then this thread has been made by an imposter & his a/c has been hacked.
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Good work, appreciated.
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Holy Shit! I can't wait to see it! And I was just on BMR and those scamming doosh bags were talking crap about how SR looks, they are so jealous:) SilkRoad kicks the shit out of Black Market any day!
Glad to know you're ok DPR:) I'm sure you're laughing just as hard as we are at the latest Gawker article, lol, "on vacation with the winner from the 4/20 contest"...lol!
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Requesting that all SR Staff look into this ASAP. Unless I have the wrong public key, this is not DPR.
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Here we go again :)
Real shocking it's Pine this time. ;)
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Noticed that there were two other posts about the GPG signature being bad that almost immediately disappeared from this thread.
This is curious...
HMS
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Wow, Deja Vu.
Glitch in the matrix?
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Yea because another one of the crazy's noticed it and set off the panic it must be LE alarm. Yet DPR came in and said he was using a new sig that was not working.
He then fixed it and said he was going to " clean up the thread so we can stay on topic" and so he deleted all the post about the mistake.
So it's no conspiracy theory...
Just a simple mistake made by DPR...
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See Tom Williams and the MyBitcoin fiasco...
That could happen here as well. Hopefully not ever!
:-D
HMS
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See Tom Williams and the MyBitcoin fiasco...
That could happen here as well. Hopefully not ever!
:-D
HMS
Yea every single person that buys or sells drugs knows there is a risk and that one day someone will get in trouble. We all know to be safe. But some of these people are so paranoid.
Does there need to be 30 post a day that always turn out wrong about who is LEO or this site is going down or blah blah?... We all understand better safe to be sorry. It's a dead horse.
If everyone was just honest, then they would admit that every single post has been a false alarm when it comes to LEO or this site being compromised or shut down. Just a fact. But there are a handful of very smart posters in this forum that are constantly pulling the fire alarm.
But the cool thing is.... this is a forum and if they want to make those post then fine!
In fact even though I 100% disagree and think they should scale it back 90% on all the LE post and this site going down and this vendor being busted... I like the fact they make there post. This forum needs different opinions and it needs paranoid people. Because one day they will be right :)
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to all vendors/buyers/and administrators of this wonderful site/community:
I love you all!!! ......except anyone that's an asshole...... fuck you all, assholes
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Ok let's all cool it a minute. I just got a message about this and I've messaged another Mod to check it out.
Chill for a moment cool-cats, let's see what's shakin.
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Hey Lim it's already been handled about 20 min ago.
But somehow after DPR fixed his signature, he then deleted about 10 post and we were all on track but when he did that it somehow went back to his old signature.
And of course then it all started again.
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I got the most confusing boner right now
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Hey Lim it's already been handled about 20 min ago.
But somehow after DPR fixed his signature, he then deleted about 10 post and we were all on track but when he did that it somehow went back to his old signature.
And of course then it all started again.
Oh lol, well that's all good then. :) I got the message a few mins ago so I thought this was still live. Well I messaged another Mod anyway so I'll either ask them to post here or let you know what they say anyway.
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Yea every single person that buys or sells drugs knows there is a risk and that one day someone will get in trouble. We all know to be safe. But some of these people are so paranoid.
But does there have to be 30 post a day that always turn out wrong about who is LEO or this site is going down or blah blah... We all understand better safe to be sorry. It's a dead horse.
Only the paranoid survive. A bad PGP signature is not a hypothesis but a fact. And yes, the PGP sig has recently been edited.
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I got the most confusing boner right now
+1
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yes, what rxking is saying is true. The current sig is ok though, right?
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Ohnoes. DPR has been compromised. Q.Q;;
Would be super shitty if they did indeed commandeer the site and now this "new look" is just LE's way of getting to us all, but I am pretty sure they're too stupid to do anything like that.. Hell, they have hard times commandeering vehicles in pursuits.. etc.
They suck, basically. So bad it tastes awesome.
pewpew.
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Hold on a sec....where is the new look? I must be really tired because I can't see the difference. :-\
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yes, what rxking is saying is true. The current sig is ok though, right?
Yes it is valid. :)
The panic is over (again!)
Moderators/others please chime in to double check and verify PGP validation for the current signature to prove it's not a situation in which pine and DPR's accounts have been both hacked.
edit:
P.S. If you don't already know, you are supposed to sign a PGP public key if you trust the owner. However, this has to be the public key you received from them originally, not any new offers of public keys a possible imposter might try to make to you.
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Great!
Hope the running smoother bit is true!
People do not visit websites for sexy flash video and all singing all dancing shining lights.
Content is king!
Hope the code has some trick to electrocute any scammers - you know, ask to FE on cheap 100% pure coke - the twat is instantly fried.
Its the burning of innocent family members that gets to me.
And yes, sometimes people jump at shadows here!
The only LEA possibility I have raised is happytime and his, her. their, collecting of a few hundred addys. I dropped my drop due to that little situation but no more comment on it.
Look forward to next week as I hit the jackpot on the lottery and won £10.
Might get an oz of UK coke.
;D
Look forward to the roll out of the new look and recoded SR.
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Just re-read DPR's OP and the changes haven't been made.... Deffo tired....
Off to bed I think, cream-crackered.
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Hey DPR, I have a comment and a question.
The new features you're implementing, they wouldn't happen to be using javascript would they? Also, adding new css and images would just increase the amount of data needed to be sent and encrypted/decrypted through the network increasing overall latency. Is my assertion correct here?
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Signature is all good, checked from my records.
Mana I think DPR knows not to use javascript, seeing as scrips are disabled in Tor..
Also, we use CSS / images on this site and it load pretty well.
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Signature is all good, checked from my records.
Mana I think DPR knows not to use javascript, seeing as scrips are disabled in Tor..
Also, we use CSS / images on this site and it load pretty well.
Ok, the only reason I ask is because that log in prompt looked like a lightbox type of login and individuals can enable js, even on TOR. As far as the css and images, it's pretty minimal now but with the overhaul I was wondering if their would be a significant increase.
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Post-Panic-Thoughts:
Look forward to seeing the new changes, so many questions. Will you be using a PGP warning message at the message sending facility on SR to prompt newbs to use PGP when sending their addresses to vendors etc. Does our camel logo receive an upgrade? What is the name of the camel anyway? All these things are important :D
@ManaFromHeaven
It is possible to use special programs to optimize/compress html/css to smaller size. However it's usually completely unreadable source when you do that.
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@ManaFromHeaven
It is possible to use special programs to optimize/compress html/css to smaller size. However it's usually completely unreadable source when you do that.
Yea, most servers gzip data before spitting it out I'm sure DPR does this. It's uncompressed at the client so it should be legible, even it if wern't humanly legible ( obfuscated code ) it really wouldn't matter unless you were trying to debug or peek into the inner working of the site. Meh, I'll just see what it looks like when it comes out, can't wait.
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Oh man! What is the Camel's name!!!!!!1111111111
Fuzz.. what the fuzz.
I am excited about the new look. Woooo.
I am not too familiar with CSS and JS.. but I am sure DPR knows what he is doing... ohnoes, unless he is LE!!! dun dun dun... raaaaabble baaaaaabble.
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Cant wait to see the new changes! Thanks for all the hard work DPR and staff. On a side note i can see the next gawker article. "SR's Admin compromised" and quote part of this paranoid thread. thats how accurate their journalism is. I love this place and I hope DPR is right that this is the next step. the redefining moment of SR. As spirits we are all on the same road my brothers and sisters. Take care . MBMC
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@ManaFromHeaven
It is possible to use special programs to optimize/compress html/css to smaller size. However it's usually completely unreadable source when you do that.
Yea, most servers gzip data before spitting it out I'm sure DPR does this. It's uncompressed at the client so it should be legible, even it if wern't humanly legible ( obfuscated code ) it really wouldn't matter unless you were trying to debug or peek into the inner working of the site. Meh, I'll just see what it looks like when it comes out, can't wait.
It's not that type of compression algorithm, not like gzip or winzip. Those preserve the data to be the same after as before compression.
It is where the code of the webpage is syntactically altered in a fashion that keeps the same appearance, but which is actually smaller in overall page size and is the fastest to load for a browser. There is a special name for this technique, but I have forgotten it, it is not obfuscation either, because the intention isn't to make the webpage harder to hard. Anyway, if you go googling it, ensure it's with Tor some other time to prevent timing information being collected for analysis or other funky stuff.
Paranoid Pine
P.S. Regarding 'The Great Panic' of 228 GMT, I regret nothing :P
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Hey DPR, I have a comment and a question.
The new features you're implementing, they wouldn't happen to be using javascript would they? Also, adding new css and images would just increase the amount of data needed to be sent and encrypted/decrypted through the network increasing overall latency. Is my assertion correct here?
The new style has no javascript, only html and css like the current style. If we do ever introduce something like that, you will be given forewarning, and it will not be required to use the site. The new style will be a little more bandwidth intensive, but it has been tested and our infrastructure and the tor network should be able to handle it, though the final deployment will be the real test.
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Wooooo! Cant wait man! Thanks for all the hard work DPR and all the SR team! Really appreciate it!
Looking forward to this very much ;D
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Thanks DPR and SR TEAM.
Ya'll are the revolution.. the Road is just the means of getting there.
I cannot say how much I appreciate this site. :)
Looking forward to some positive changes.
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Thank you DPR! Can't wait to see the fresh look ;D
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'So fresh n so clean'
Look forward 2 it, good work 8)
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I'm all for a fresh new look! 8)
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I'm all for a fresh new look! 8)
YAH. ME TOO. -winkwink-
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DPR, love you, man.
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Can't wait to see it!! :D
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All I got on the sneak peak was a picture of the login box?!!
Looking forward to seeing the chances. Thanks for the hard work DPR and staff! I just hope it's not TOO flashy. The simplicity of the user interface on Silk Road is one of it's greatest strengths.
Also, thanks to the SR community for not letting me waste another second of my life on Facebook. Facebook, waste.of.time. Silk Road, open-minded, friendly (for the most part) community standing up for their rights!
It just gets better and better!
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Haha in your face Gawker, DPR is alive and kicking; even upgraded the Road ;)
Very curious about these changes :)
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Great Job DPR & Silk Road Team !
We are looking forward to the changes & new design.
The Bungee54 Team
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Looks great so long, not as minimalistic as it is today (and tbh as i like it)
I guess it won't be possible to use the old style as soon the new one is applied?
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What the hell's so different about it? You'll have to do better than that to get kudos from me.
goblin
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What the hell's so different about it? You'll have to do better than that to get kudos from me.
goblin
It has not been implemented yet.. It will be in a couple days. Read the op and you will see what DPR is talking about.
:)
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Looks like I missed out on the chaos. ::) Hopefully this upgrade will lead to a better browsing experience, and business.
Long live DPR and the SR team!
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@DPR I believe the word you were looking for was "fanfare", not "fan fair".
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Looks like I missed out on the chaos. ::) Hopefully this upgrade will lead to a better browsing experience, and business.
Long live DPR and the SR team!
+1
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I was thinking when I was reading this thread last night. SR would look nice in a nice shade or red or sky blue. Like strawberry red or something. Who knows.
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Hm, guess we'll just have to see what the site looks like ina few days. And aw man, I miss the drama?!? no fun :(
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I thought heros were a thing of the past. I thought my generation didn't have them. And then a long came DPR and the Road...
I believe DPR will be remembered like Steve Jobs as a great innovator, but also more than that- a hero. A freedom fighter. The one who finally ended the war on drugs and saved thousands- maybe millions- of people from becoming victims of that war.
Thank you everyone- DPR, the SR team, and all you members of this amazing community.
You guys give me hope.
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I was thinking when I was reading this thread last night. SR would look nice in a nice shade or red or sky blue. Like strawberry red or something. Who knows.
It`be great if we could upload our own or choose from a gallery of layouts/backgrounds. Yeah I know, I ask too much. :P
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I was thinking when I was reading this thread last night. SR would look nice in a nice shade or red or sky blue. Like strawberry red or something. Who knows.
It`be great if we could upload our own or choose from a gallery of layouts/backgrounds. Yeah I know, I ask too much. :P
Yeah that'd be cool. I'd have black and silver because it's G! :P
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Yeah that'd be cool. I'd have black and silver because it's G! :P
Hahaha! We`ll see about that.
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Very exited for this!
Good to see DPR return!
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Not to be a spoilsport.
But I really couldn't care less about the design of SR. I think the way it is now works perfectly "If it aint broke, don't fix it". If it's possible, I'd like an option to keep it the way it is. At least please don't make it too flash, plain and simple is the best!
(Oh, and I spent ages trying to login, thinking OnionImageUploader now required login to view images haha)
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^The design change probably grew out of planned code changes to the backend (database, server-side scripting) and functional elements of the frontend (forms, captcha) that are aimed at improving security and increasing server capacity. If you're going to revamp the workings of the site, might as well spruce up the design a bit too ya know.
Also, I want everyone to be aware that the Tor Browser Bundle does NOT block javascript by default. Torbutton blocks certain "dangerous" scripts but allows others to run as long as they don't match any rules. Same goes for the NoScript installation included with TBB. If you want to block all scripting, hover your mouse over the NoScript icon and select "Forbid all scripts globally (advised)". Most sites on the clearnet will not work properly, but this is a must for browsing the darknet, particularly sites like SR.
Please make sure you're using the latest version of not only the TBB, but also the add-ons included. Periodically (and whenever you first open TBB) go to Tools > Add-Ons > Check for updates (click the button with the gear symbol).
EDIT: How could I forget the most important part? THANK YOU DPR AND THE REST OF THE SR ADMINISTRATION!!!
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yes, what rxking is saying is true.
What, you mean insulting anyone who raised the issue about the bad PGP signature?
I think he just meant that RXKing's account of what had just happened was accurate. DPR posted with a dodgy sig, a few people pointed it out, it was corrected, then fucked up again when the thread was cleaned up, causing a second influx of posts.
Kudos to everyone who caught onto the bad sig. Your vigilance is appreciated.
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Guru and Pine for SR security patrol officers? I`m thinking their addition would do us good.
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Thanks DPR, for all your efforts to keep us safe....
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My hope is that this day will be looked back on as one where we really came into our own and started a new chapter in our quest to stand up for our freedom and declare ownership of ourselves and our bodies.
^This
You are an amazing person DPR, Thank you so much for everything that you do for us.
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yes, what rxking is saying is true.
What, you mean insulting anyone who raised the issue about the bad PGP signature?
I think he just meant that RXKing's account of what had just happened was accurate. DPR posted with a dodgy sig, a few people pointed it out, it was corrected, then fucked up again when the thread was cleaned up, causing a second influx of posts.
Kudos to everyone who caught onto the bad sig. Your vigilance is appreciated.
It is no secret that gpg signing is something that DPR consistently has trouble with. when he announced the new URL, he had 2 different URLs posted using the same signature. the signature checked out on the URL that didn't work, and the sig was bad for the URL that did.
So honestly, if the signature checked out when the message was first posted, I would worry that he had been compromised...lol
but in the future, DPR, why don't you verify your signed messages before posting them, since you are the site admin and all, take the extra step to avoid spooking the thousands of customers who depend on you for their security. Because if you can't get a simple signed message correct, how are we to trust you with not only our money, but in some peoples cases, plaintext addresses.
end of rant about DPR needing to bone up on his practices, now for the important part of the post. The site doesn't need a makeover at all. there are 6 things that the admin should be spending his time on other than giving a facelift.
1.security
2.functionality
3.security
4.security
5.functionality
6.security
that is all.
wretched
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Shit, don't make me bring back the "Winning" thread. I've been resisting it ssssssssso incredibly badly
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When I first stepped on the Road over a year ago I knew that this was a special place. I was so overcome with a childlike sense of wonder, amazement and curiosity that it took me a few months (and a few purchases later;) to realize it. But it finally came to me....
This could very well be the most important stance for Freedom that any of us will be a part of in our lives....
We can all go down to the carryout and buy an beverage containing alcohol and grab a pack of cigarettes no questions asked, both of which kill more people than ANY of the fine products on this site (1in 10 deaths are caused from tobacco and alcohol kills 2.5 million people a year).
Now I smoke and I drink from time to time and I'm not against the 2. That is our choice. Just like it's OUR choice and responsibility to know our body and research anything we put in it....
All of you helped build SR what it is today, we watched it grow, emerge like a beautiful fractal in the Mandlbrot, expanding and growing. This time is the most exciting time to possibly be alive in the entire history of the world... the Road is part of R-evolution.
The Road is harm reduction in one of it's truest forms...
I extend my gratitude to ALL of the vendors and the brilliant minds that take the time to post useful information in the forums. We all make the Road what it is, a shining star of Freedom,a wonderful display of non-violent civil disobedience and a unified voice against rules put upon us by people who either don't give a damn or don't care to understand what liberty means...
All of you that care about the Road..... Thank You....
and to you DPR, I love you man..... seriously...
Much love, Sincerely darkmirror
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As much as I would like to check out the new cosmetics I cannot log onto SR and have been trying for an hour. Anyone with a clue why?
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^^ same with me, i'm assuming they are staring to implement the upgrades now.
Either way you're not alone, just wait a while and try again later.
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yes, what rxking is saying is true.
What, you mean insulting anyone who raised the issue about the bad PGP signature?
I think he just meant that RXKing's account of what had just happened was accurate. DPR posted with a dodgy sig, a few people pointed it out, it was corrected, then fucked up again when the thread was cleaned up, causing a second influx of posts.
Kudos to everyone who caught onto the bad sig. Your vigilance is appreciated.
It is no secret that gpg signing is something that DPR consistently has trouble with. when he announced the new URL, he had 2 different URLs posted using the same signature. the signature checked out on the URL that didn't work, and the sig was bad for the URL that did.
So honestly, if the signature checked out when the message was first posted, I would worry that he had been compromised...lol
but in the future, DPR, why don't you verify your signed messages before posting them, since you are the site admin and all, take the extra step to avoid spooking the thousands of customers who depend on you for their security. Because if you can't get a simple signed message correct, how are we to trust you with not only our money, but in some peoples cases, plaintext addresses.
end of rant about DPR needing to bone up on his practices, now for the important part of the post. The site doesn't need a makeover at all. there are 6 things that the admin should be spending his time on other than giving a facelift.
1.security
2.functionality
3.security
4.security
5.functionality
6.security
that is all.
wretched
Those things are always going to need work. The site will never NEED a makeover, but one would be very nice indeed.
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Security should always be the #1.
I trust the admins and DPR. They have done an amazing job re-establishing our Freedom in a form that none of us have ever seen possible... nor ever thought possible.
I, personally, have only been a member for around 3 months.. give or take, but I feel like I am a part of something amazing and immaculate, because I am.
We are.
I have known about the site for so long... and I just thought to myself "There is no way..."
Then I finally found myself here.. on the Road.. and I must say.. "What a long, strange trip it's been."
Much love to the Person/People who make the Road an easy thing to walk.
Thumbs UP.
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Cool, will be nice to have a fresh look. It's a shame to have lost DigitalAlch as I feel he was an important member of the team from what I gather. Good luck and all the best to them! Long live SR! Security is paramount.
Big up DPR and the crew behind the scenes making this happen!! :) :) 8) 8)
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You da man DPR! much <3 :-*
looking forward to seeing the sites facelift
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Good work DPR, should be a great improvement!!
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Can't wait for the new look. Thanks DPR!
sdesu
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mixed feelings here, i've grown to love the current minimalist style :(
DPR, can you please leave the option of switching between the old and the new design, somewhere in the settings? at least for the first few weeks!
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Mad props, lets us know that the quality of the site is a priority. Can't wait to check it out
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I am sure in the beginning if there are two different layouts. (the new and the old.)
There will probably be some bugs that will affect people differently throughout the old layout and within the new layout.
Who knows.
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(Oh, and I spent ages trying to login, thinking OnionImageUploader now required login to view images haha)
at least i wasn't the only dumbass this happened to.
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what about the forum, will it remain the way it is now? whatever you do, please just don't make it dark! :)
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The current signature check out ok, thanks. While I'm on the subject of signatures, you might wish to consider upgrading your default hash algorithm in your PGP preferences. SHA-1 is deprecated, due to increasingly effective attacks against it mounted in the last few years. I'd highly recommend that you switch to one of the SHA2 hash algorithms, e.g. SHA256 or SHA512.
You can do that by adding the following lines to your gpg.conf file:
# sets personal message-digest preferences
personal-digest-preferences sha512
You may also need to edit the key to update the cipher and hash algorithm preferences in the key.
The current preferences for the SR staff key are:
gpg> list
pub 2048R/67B7FA25 created: 2011-04-01 expires: never usage: SCE
[ unknown] (1). Silk Road <staff@silkroadmarket.org>
gpg> pref
[ unknown] (1). Silk Road <staff@silkroadmarket.org>
S9 S8 S7 S3 S2 H8 H2 H9 H10 H11 Z2 Z3 Z1 [mdc] [no-ks-modify]
gpg> showpref
[ unknown] (1). Silk Road <staff@silkroadmarket.org>
Cipher: AES256, AES192, AES, CAST5, 3DES
Digest: SHA256, SHA1, SHA384, SHA512, SHA224
Compression: ZLIB, BZIP2, ZIP, Uncompressed
Features: MDC, Keyserver no-modify
gpg>
I'd change the digest order to: SHA512, SHA384, SHA256, SHA224, SHA1
Actually, you can compare the above to mine:
gpg> list
pub 4096R/DD7B4576 created: 2012-06-16 expires: never usage: SC
sub 2048R/195D71B8 created: 2012-06-16 expires: never usage: S
sub 4096g/D677EF45 created: 2012-06-16 expires: never usage: E
[ultimate] (1). Louis Cyphre <lcyphre@tormail.org>
gpg> pref
[ultimate] (1). Louis Cyphre <lcyphre@tormail.org>
S9 S10 S13 S8 S12 S7 S11 S2 S3 S4 H10 H9 H8 H11 H3 H2 H1 Z3 Z2 Z1 Z0 [mdc] [no-ks-modify]
gpg> showpref
[ultimate] (1). Louis Cyphre <lcyphre@tormail.org>
Cipher: AES256, TWOFISH, CAMELLIA256, AES192, CAMELLIA192, AES, CAMELLIA128, 3DES, CAST5, BLOWFISH
Digest: SHA512, SHA384, SHA256, SHA224, RIPEMD160, SHA1, MD5
Compression: BZIP2, ZLIB, ZIP, Uncompressed
Features: MDC, Keyserver no-modify
gpg>
I just made sure I had the right preferences listed in my gpg.conf before I generated the key and everything was set. I probably should've cut MD5 out entirely and maybe swapped 3DES and CAST5 around, but if I receive anything from anyone here using MD5, CAST5 or 3DES I'll probably already be taking them to task about their OpenPGP implementation.
The rest of your post is spot on, although I'd also encourage updating the UID to not include the (dead?) clearnet domain.
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Guru and Pine for SR security patrol officers? I`m thinking their addition would do us good.
I'll second that.
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When logging onto SR via Android in usual way I only get white screen. Across the top it says I'm at the page but the rest of the page wont load. The last thing I did was withdraw funds from SR. I had to clear my cache and delete cookies so my log in page would be clear and fresh.
Now I only get white screen with typical text across top of page after having logged in.
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Just let us have the green plz :)
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Guru and Pine for SR security patrol officers? I`m thinking their addition would do us good.
I'll second that.
Don't leave yourself out, eh?
It would be awfully presumptive of me to nominate myself. ;)
I'm just curious, though, what do you have against 3DES and CAST5? I'll grant you, CAST5 is a 128-bit cipher, and 3DES has an effective strength of 112-bits due to meet-in-the-middle attack.... that said, no one (to my knowledge at least) has shown that they are broken. After all, weren't 256-bit ciphers introduced only as a precaution against quantum computers becoming available that could break smaller keys?
I've got nothing against Triple-DES or CAST5, but probably should've reversed the order because of the meet-in-the-middle attack since CAST5 is 128-bit and likely slightly stronger than Triple-DES. I'd only take people to task for using them because it would likely be indicative of using some truly ancient implementation of OpenPGP and may be indicative of other issues. I'd take it on a case-by-case circumstance.
SHA1 and MD5 are, of course, another matter entirely.
As for 256-bit ciphers being adopted to foil quantum computing, there's some truth to that to be sure. Still, the ciphers are available so why not take advantage of them.
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Still looking forward to see what is occurring with this lick of paint.
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Still looking forward to see what is occurring with this huff of paint.
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Is this change coming next Monday, or Sunday? DPR says next week in his original post, but I just want to know when to look for this.
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To all that make SR possible...thank you for defending and providing our freedom and liberty from oppression! im fairly new to "the road" and my experience to date has been exceptional. no lost packages or bad deals. just high quality products and vendors that are down for the cause.
after reading this thread im beginning to realize that the admins are in need of many thank yous as well! the "hidden heros" of SR are the admins and line code writers that make this international virtual marketplace a reality. STRONG WORK DPR and all that serve to fight our cause virtually!
KYmatt
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I just made sure I had the right preferences listed in my gpg.conf before I generated the key and everything was set.
What were the preferences in your gpg.conf? What are the recommended prefs?
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No yea I think when I first came on here a year ago the look was one of the main things that turned me off from it. It seemed very primitive ya kno. Keeping a well-manicured site can go a long way for sure. I like this idea. It's lookin good so far, nice job man ;D
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I look forward to the new look and I hope it implements functionality as well. This new change may attract more vendors to The Marketplace and improve the economy here.
Good job Silk Road team!
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Will the fees rise after the changes?
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so DPR is alive and well and not locked in an FBI/DEA cell............
:D
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SR is down for maintenance as of 2 minutes ago -- guess we'll get a look at the new design when it pops back up.
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Exciting times!
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I can see it's down but the new top bit does look slick. Excited to see it all now! Quick-time DPR! :D
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I don't log in for a few days and I miss all the fun! Thanks to Pine for always being on top of things. Also, I hope DPR takes Guru and LouisCyphre's advice about his GPG key, it may not be vastly important for most low end users but his security should be priority #1.
Also looks like SR is getting a black border like many other sites have on the clearnet, the font for the logo is slimmer, and the camel lost a little wisp below his neck, anyone else notice that? lol.
Thanks to DRP and staff for all your work!
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From what is viewable, it looks neater... let's hope the actual site layout is good! Nice work DPR and SR team for making a fantastic place even better :)
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The new look is awesome! good job on all the work, a big thanks to everyone who keeps SR going
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Yeah, it look good! I would probably decrease the size of the listings once you're in a particular category, but yah it's good!
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Aaaannd as I was typing that it came back up. The top looks a lot like Amazon, it really is the Amazon for drugs now!
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does look good 8)
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WOW very nice! i like it i like it!
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WAIT. In the sent folder for messages it doesnt say who it was sent to!
DEAD ROBERTS! grrrr
FIX THE SENT FOLDER! it sux now
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nice great work guys
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BY THE WAY are you ever gonna fix the % sign bug in SR messages?
its been a bug for fkin ages
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I go on my vendors page and now it is a costumer page???????
Or how to see my listings??
Greettzzz
Edit : Found it :D
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Ah just logged on now and the new layout does look spanking. Great stuff DPR. :)
Need to go get throwaway digital camera now so I can put more pics up now, the new listings looks great.
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I go on my vendors page and now it is a costumer page???????
Or how to see my listings??
Greettzzz
Yeah, the new layout is confusing in that aspect. I also liked how the product categories had columns - please bring those back :(
And please fix the sent messages folder so it actually shows who you msged.
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OMG this fucking sux.
- The account page is fucking useless.
- You cant click on ur own name anymore to check ur vendor page
- You cant see who the message was sent to in the "SENT" folder
- The % sign bug still isnt fixed
- Theres a whole page for vendor loan now? WHY?
- How do i see my listings?
this is about stupid
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WAIT. In the sent folder for messages it doesnt say who it was sent to!
DEAD ROBERTS! grrrr
FIX THE SENT FOLDER! it sux now
Sent folder still shows 'From' which always your own username, vs the To it should be showing
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OMG this fucking sux.
- The account page is fucking useless.
- You cant click on ur own name anymore to check ur vendor page
- You cant see who the message was sent to in the "SENT" folder
- The % sign bug still isnt fixed
- Theres a whole page for vendor loan now? WHY?
- How do i see my listings?
this is about stupid
My thoughts exactly. The old layout was plain but had a better structure than the new polished layout.
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New look is fantastic. Thank you and congrats to all involved!
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I noticed a but.
my profile says:
has been a member for 2 months
was last seen: 16 days ago
well, I have been here today and been a member for over a year.
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really hope gawker can leave us the fuck alone now and all their SHIT journalists because loyal customers and/or massive addicted to HARSH drugs off this
;D
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@ 420MEDS i agree.
Look was plain but now it takes you 10 minutes to do something that used to take 2.
And nothing is improved.
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To see your listings, go to your account page, and click the "Listed items" link in the side bar on the right.
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What's the % sign issue, I'll submit that to DPR?
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I noticed a but.
my profile says:
has been a member for 2 months
was last seen: 16 days ago
well, I have been here today and been a member for over a year.
its that way for everyone.
Mine says the same thing. I really wonder if DPR test's anything b4 he implements it
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What's the % sign issue, I'll submit that to DPR?
If you wouldnt mind that would be awesome.
That has been a issue for a long time. You cant use % in SR messages. it cuts off some of the message
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I noticed a but.
my profile says:
has been a member for 2 months
was last seen: 16 days ago
well, I have been here today and been a member for over a year.
its that way for everyone.
Mine says the same thing. I really wonder if DPR test's anything b4 he implements it
Be patient friend, he just launched!
Looks pretty sweet :D
Matrix 8)
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I noticed a but.
my profile says:
has been a member for 2 months
was last seen: 16 days ago
well, I have been here today and been a member for over a year.
Yeah mine says last seen 16 days ago too.
Great new look.
Few bugs are to be expected.
They'll work it out.
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OMG this fucking sux.
- The account page is fucking useless.
- You cant click on ur own name anymore to check ur vendor page
- You cant see who the message was sent to in the "SENT" folder
- The % sign bug still isnt fixed
- Theres a whole page for vendor loan now? WHY?
- How do i see my listings?
this is about stupid
I'm sure they are working out the bugs mate.
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I noticed a but.
my profile says:
has been a member for 2 months
was last seen: 16 days ago
well, I have been here today and been a member for over a year.
its that way for everyone.
Mine says the same thing. I really wonder if DPR test's anything b4 he implements it
It's going to re-rank everyone in a few but that has to be cached. Submitting issues and getting them taken care of.
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OMG this fucking sux.
- The account page is fucking useless.
- You cant click on ur own name anymore to check ur vendor page
- You cant see who the message was sent to in the "SENT" folder
- The % sign bug still isnt fixed
- Theres a whole page for vendor loan now? WHY?
- How do i see my listings?
this is about stupid
I'm sure they are working out the bugs mate.
I know but someone has to freak out.
SR forums just arent the same unless someone is ranting. So i took care of it.
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Rest assured we have staff actively watching and working on the bugs. I'm personally monitoring the topic specifically to answer any questions I'm able to.
~squid~
(If anyone didn't see the last post last page, [Account page -> Links sidebar -> Listed Items] to see your listings and create new listings)
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Looks good
i like it ;)
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Sent page fixed, inter-account sending fixed, vendor ranking fixed.
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Omg. Sexy time.
Oh a bug... sais all the vendors haven't been seen for 16 days.
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Oh yeah, it would also be nice to get the # of items in each category back.
Thanks in advance :)
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Rest assured we have staff actively watching and working on the bugs. I'm personally monitoring the topic specifically to answer any questions I'm able to.
~squid~
(If anyone didn't see the last post last page, [Account page -> Links sidebar -> Listed Items] to see your listings and create new listings)
Thank you guys, i see some bugs are already fixed!
thats awesome!
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I like the new look. It looks more "clean" and organized. Does anyone know if they are going to reconstruct the community forum?
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OMG this fucking sux.
- The account page is fucking useless.
- You cant click on ur own name anymore to check ur vendor page
- You cant see who the message was sent to in the "SENT" folder
- The % sign bug still isnt fixed
- Theres a whole page for vendor loan now? WHY?
- How do i see my listings?
this is about stupid
I'm sure they are working out the bugs mate.
I know but someone has to freak out.
SR forums just arent the same unless someone is ranting. So i took care of it.
This is true Exotica and you did fill the space nicely.
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The old way was more efficiant. Please dont make unessacery cosmetic changes
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The old way was more efficiant. Please dont make unessacery cosmetic changes
mate i'm sure it's just like when they release a new version of Windows or OS X - some people say they love it, and others want it back to how it was due to the bugs etc. bottom line is tough shit - this is how it is.
the bugs will be ironed out, it's only been up 20 minutes!
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I must say it looks a lot more professional, absolutely love it, nice job DPR :)
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i know one thing, it looks alot better on android.
FFS the old interface while using orbot on android sucked. This new interface is much easier to use. Now i can be even more lazy and do everything through my phone or my tablet while not even getting out of bed!. now if i can just figure out how to mail shit from my bed.
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Sent page fixed, inter-account sending fixed, vendor ranking fixed, username now clickable
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now if i can just figure out how to mail shit from my bed.
You need an indentured servant. Trust me, they're awesome.
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Oh yeah, it would also be nice to get the # of items in each category back.
Thanks in advance :)
Agreed. But overall, I think it's a great improvement! I love how I can see the pictures next to each listing!
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Very nicely done, it looks a lot better.
The preview images could be smaller to allow for more listings. I'm not particularly fussed about having images listed so having the option to turn them off would be cool. I'd rather see images under the product description than alongside the category listings, like it was before.
There's now plenty of hooks available to allow for easier customization. If you could remove the inline styling that would be awesome.
Job well done whoever did it :)
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Oh yeah, it would also be nice to get the # of items in each category back.
Thanks in advance :)
Agreed. But overall, I think it's a great improvement! I love how I can see the pictures next to each listing!
Vendors should be obliged to add a picture of the stuff they are selling now.. Would make the site look even sharper.
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not as bad as expected ;)
i still want to be able to switch to the old theme tho..
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now if i can just figure out how to mail shit from my bed.
You need an indentured servant. Trust me, they're awesome.
Isn't that slavery but easier on the moral compass Squid?
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wow, looks beautiful and is running smooth!!
kudos to the admins for all their work!
::Fist Bump:: to the Dread Pirate Roberts!!
Long Live Silk Road!
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Isn't that slavery but easier on the moral compass Squid?
Indentured servants get something out of the contract besides regular whippings. Most commonly (historically) passage to America in exchange for some years of service.
Glad to see everyone enjoying the new layout, looking forward to how beloved it'll be when all the kinks are worked out. Whoever put it together certainly made it look nice. Makes the site feel more solid and permanent to me.
~squid~
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New site layout looks great. I see a new address with a cool little DPR logo. I was worried it might be too different, but it's turned out to be a pleasing upgrade overall I think.
Thanks for the hard work guys.
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It's nice, but I'm not sure how I feel about having pictures next to the listings though.
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Ahhhh nearly shit myself when I couldn't find my favourites, then I realized I was blind. Crisis over. ::)
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Looks like most of the bugs were fixed! Now that it works, I'm really liking this new layout. The mouseover, drop-down categories menu is nice, and I like featured listings panel. It would still be nice to be able to switch styles and go back to the old one just in case, but whatever works. It's not like this one uses significantly more bandwidth or anything. As long as this style is secure, functional, and free of scripting, I'm down.
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Looks good, but what I'm kinda missing is the number of offers right next to the category.
And how about a view without the pictures to switch between perhaps? Looks really cool with the pictures, but without them it isn't probably that 'bulky'.
Anyways, keep it up, great work.
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Love it! Still figuring out where a few things are, but this is much cleaner and professional. Should allay the fears of some new buyers coming to the site.
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I personally love the new layout.
Anything that is RELEASED will always have bugs.. but for someone to just go and bash DPR for the things he "implements without testing" is ridiculous.
I am sure this person/people spend countless hours coding and testing their stuff just to make sure their fellow followers in this community are pleased to the UTMOST.
I really do appreciate you DPR for what you do here and I can only imagine what you stand for IRL.
Keep it up! I am glad you finally PAVED the Road. :)
Looks like it'll be traveled for a lot longer now.
Good travels!
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It's real nice, good job guys.
One small suggestion I have is it would be cool if there were more parameters to sort the listings into, rather than just the 3 we have currently (Bestselling, Seller Rank & Newest). Extra parameters could be Highest price, Lowest price, Location etc. Just an idea. :)
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here are a few minor cosmetic problems people might not mention:
- the category tree expands the inventory column on the left to the point where it overlaps onto the listings. you could maybe change the color of the text so you don't have to offset it, though it only seems to be a problem for categories that have long names, like " CDs, DVDs, software, etc." under Digital Goods.
- number of items per category is missing.
- the 'remove' in the Bookmarked Items on the right is hard to see. most of the titles for items are varying lengths, it's just annoying really to have to hunt for it each time. maybe have 'remove' be on a different line every time? or put a tiny bit of space between each bookmark. the problem i suppose is mostly because of each listing being several lines that vary and being cramped together.
a few requests:
- can we add 'ships to' under 'ships from' on the listings? it doesn't look like it'd be a problem to fit it anymore, since it wouldn't require an extra column. mostly I want this to be able to search for vendors who ship worldwide, which might be better served by a small icon.
- can we add something that tells you if FE is required/required for intnl customers quickly, on the listing itself, so you don't have to rummage through descriptions looking for the one offhand comment that tells you so? again maybe an icon might work better.
- running with this icon thing again, other things that might be useful to know, like 'tracking/express international available', etc. so you don't have to bother vendors with those questions, and don't have to go through the process of carting it to check.
- I for example, come from what I'm guessing from experience is a fairly obscure country for SR to be shipping to. I don't know how useful it would be to the community at large, but could we do a survey amongst the vendors, and divide the world up into zones, so they can list whether they ship to said zones without again having to bother them for more info? additionally they might not be able to offer guaranteed prices on tracking/express to a few countries, so zoning on the basis of frequency in the community might help them at least say "ask for shipping".
- i personally think you should have a "switch to USD/BTC" toggle out in the open instead of having to rummage through the account page, or again, having to cart it.
- 'empty cart' option on the cart page? or maybe even a (select and) remove option per item?
- sort by price?
- sort individual items by feedback left on said item (and not just the vendor)?
anyway, thank you for your time and effort.
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New site looks great, don't know if it's been mentioned but you can't click on all transactions you wish to confirm as sent and confirm them all together. OIt just confirms one. :)
Good job though guys. 8)
BTG
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Looks nice and fresh. Great work! :)
Looks good, but what I'm kinda missing is the number of offers right next to the category.
And how about a view without the pictures to switch between perhaps? Looks really cool with the pictures, but without them it isn't probably that 'bulky'.
Anyways, keep it up, great work.
^^yeah second that.
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Brilliant! You guys/gals are awesome - on point fixing bugs right off the bat too. SR is so awesome it blows my mind sometimes.
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New site looks great, don't know if it's been mentioned but you can't click on all transactions you wish to confirm as sent and confirm them all together. OIt just confirms one. :)
Good job though guys. 8)
BTG
This should be fixed now. Can someone confirm please?
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I like the new look. Good work! My only worry would be the extra bandwidth it takes, we all know how slow SR can load sometime. I haven't read through this entire thread, but has anyone questioned this?
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I actually don't think this is taking up more bandwidth... I don't have the old site to compare to, but its not like there are huge images or flash animations...
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The new look is great, but I haven't been able to see it for more than 3 or 4 seconds before Firefox crashes.
Just trashed and updated to the most recent Tor bundle, but to no avail. I'm able to get to the login screen, but as soon as the Home screen appears, Firefox crashes.
I'm running Vidalia 0.2.17 | Tor 0.2.2.35 | Mac OSX
Any suggestions would be appreciated, as I have a lot of "business" to handle. Also, I want to explore the new SR like you guys! : (
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Oh lol, it changed while I was logged in, walked away from the comp for a few mins and went to look at my orders and it was all new!
Spose I'd best relog for security and will post my verdict when I've had a good look through.
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I like the new look. Good work! My only worry would be the extra bandwidth it takes, we all know how slow SR can load sometime. I haven't read through this entire thread, but has anyone questioned this?
It actually seems faster to me, could just be my current connection though. Bandwidth change would be so miniscule there's no point in even looking into it :)
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I can no longer use the site. TOR browser crashes on welcome page every time. HELP. Mac OS X 10.7.4, TOR browser 12.0
OK I solved this. I went back to the TOR download site at https://www.torproject.org/download/download and grabbed the "latest" version. This fixed the problem. I put "latest" in quotes because the Firefox version is actually OLDER! I was running 12.0 but am now using 10.0.5!
I will post a message for other mac users in case they experience any problems. New look is nice. Not sure it was worth the trouble for me, but it's sharp!
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I can no longer use the site. TOR browser crashes on welcome page every time. HELP. Mac OS X 10.7.4, TOR browser 12.0
are there any mac users that can access the site without problems?
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The new site looks fantastic - lovely job. It looks a lot cleaner, and the ability to see images of products in a gallery without clicking is a god-send. I would, however, suggest:
1. Ability to sort by price
2. Ability to display price in GBP.
3. Add view feedback and purchasing stats on the main page at the top, next to messages etc.
I'm so proud to be part of this amazing site - it would have been so easy to rest on your laurels, but alas you have endeavored to make this site better and more secure with each passing month. As a libertarian, I am thrilled that DPR promotes the work of the incredible Von Mises foundation and this place is a heaven for me to visit.
Long live TSR
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I can no longer use the site. TOR browser crashes on welcome page every time. HELP. Mac OS X 10.7.4, TOR browser 12.0
Ditto this fella. My mate is on a Windows machine and has no problem accessing the site. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
I started a thread in technical support as well:
http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=32479.msg368663#msg368663
Plz help!
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Works under linux for me, can't make a comment about OS X
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I actually really like the new layout, my only issues are that...
i miss the numbers next to the categories and subcategories, (ie. Cannabis (899), Topicals (1).) It helped knowing when listings have come or gone,
and also i used to be able to copy my user number, go to someones vendor page and erase their numbers from the end of the url and replace with mine to get my stats...now all i get is the option to send myself a message.....not that this is entirely that important where im a buyer and not a vendor and i should know how long ive been on the road. haha
all in all, i like the update...and im sure all the kinks will be worked out...good work DPR!!
trainfour20
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are there any mac users that can access the site without problems?
OS X 10.7.3 here been browsing the site for 10 minutes and no problem :)
I love the new look, but I agree with the numbers thing, it really helped browsing. The pictures next to the name are really useful and my favourite change in appearance.
What if vendors had an option to put their PGP in a box that didn't mean it takes up most of the page and you could copy and paste from it easily? It seems like cumbersome to have large PGP keys when the rest of the site is so streamlined.
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to all: I fixed the Mac problem by re-downloading from https://www.torproject.org/download/download and using that version.
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Very nice work, I love the new look!
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Thank you for adding the most important feature.....
"display prices in Euro"
oh, wait
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until we figure out the problem some osx users are having, try installing windows in a virtual machine on your osx host. You can get VirtualBox for osx here: http://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/4.1.18/VirtualBox-4.1.18-78361-OSX.dmg
here are instructions:
http://damien.co/resources/how-to-install-virtualbox-mac-osx-host-winxp-guest-using-tinyxp-rev-09-132
When you have windows xp running, download the tor browser bundle for windows, install, and visit silk road. This is untested, so if anyone does this, let us know if it works.
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i miss the numbers next to the categories and subcategories, (ie. Cannabis (899), Topicals (1).) It helped knowing when listings have come or gone,
and also i used to be able to copy my user number, go to someones vendor page and erase their numbers from the end of the url and replace with mine to get my stats...now all i get is the option to send myself a message.....not that this is entirely that important where im a buyer and not a vendor and i should know how long ive been on the road. haha
I'm not gonna lie, the numbers were really nice to have. But as for your stats as a buyer, it's still the same. Replaceing the URL with a non-vendor has ALWAYS been send message and NOT stats.
If you want to look at your stats, simply go here: http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/index.php/account/buyer_stats
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from another thread, it looks like installing the 64-bit version of the tor brower bundle on osx fixes the problem
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just wanted to pipe in and say that i love the slick, new look.
keep up the awesome work guys.
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actually i used to do it all the time, replacing a vendors numbers with my own, and it would bring up how long ive been a member, last seen, then in red it would say this vendor has no active listings....
basically it would be the top of any vendors page without any info......like i said, it was pointless but it did work! I even did it last night just to see how long ive been a member...
and yeah the numbers, id like to see them come back for sure
trainfour20
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I cannot connect and i'm using windows 7 64 bit os, won't let me log on?? anyone else having these problems with windows? im aware its happening with mac.
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Doesn't work on android! Help please!
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Since the design update, some of the pages are being served without content (blank white pages) like I use to see quite often a few months ago. I have also been kicked back to a login page several times while trying to browse the site.
Edited for update: it keeps happening often enough that the frustration isn't worth it. Will be taking my money elsewhere as I can't actually make any transactions without being served a blank page or being logged out. Guess I gotta go deal with the street bullshit.
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Loving the new look guys, you are officially better looking than ebay, amazon and all of the rest capitalistic shit
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The new design looks great.
But I am having a problem where I get kicked to the login page every now and again.
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Since the design update, some of the pages are being served without content (blank white pages). I have also been kicked back to a login page several times while trying to browse the site.
I can't actually make any transactions without being served a blank page or being logged out.
+1 Impossible to place an order right now. Hopefully it's just due to an overload of traffic.
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from another thread, it looks like installing the 64-bit version of the tor brower bundle on osx fixes the problem
This worked magic for me. I've updated my thread in Technical Support to include this 64-bit fix. Thanks!
ornamentalist.
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sorry for the bout of bugginess there, I think we have it sorted.
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I am using a mac and I havent had an issue yet.. Granted, Tor was still up and running, so im afraid to close it an open it up again, lol.. but it does work now...
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Hey Dread,
any chance you guys will put back the numbers next to the categories? it was a lovely way of knowing if listings have come and gone without going through 800 cannibis listings, or whatever else you may be looking at. Just noticed you were currently on the forums so i figured i'd ask! Thanks for all you do man!
trainfour20
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Since the design update, some of the pages are being served without content (blank white pages). I have also been kicked back to a login page several times while trying to browse the site.
I can't actually make any transactions without being served a blank page or being logged out.
+1 Impossible to place an order right now. Hopefully it's just due to an overload of traffic.
UPDATE: Working great now.
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Good work guys :) However I do agree with previous poster's comments, I used to use the numbers next to categories to check for new listings, this is going to be the biggest problem as I could see when new listings were up straight away, now there is no way of knowing apart from looking through all listings every single time, this is going to be very time consuming as before the change I could just check if numbers had increased or not.
Long live SR
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What's the point of changing how things "look"? It's just a waste of time!
Darkwave
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Bug:
Not sure if mentioned, too many pages to skim. HTML special entities characters are either being zero padded or incorrect. This can be seen on the main page with items that have #&XXX where XXX is a number.
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Taking a brief tour around the new theme, I think it looks great! Thanks for providing such a secure, user-friendly, marketplace!
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What the hell is going on,
One minute it does nothing, Next minute i have to login again, and again, and again.
Then it times out.
STOP SCREWING WITH IT let me do my packages
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Certainly a feast for the eyes, prefer some of new smaller text. And DPR gets a logo!
The listings look huge to me, so few on a page, maybe that's the spacing problem mentioned. I would like to see smaller listings than the old site could browse much faster before.
Even the change to the login is an improvement I've had several people ask silly questions about that when I showed them the old site.
I'm sure more important changes went on 'under the hood' than we see tho. Maybe its a preparation for the way so new features can come. No new features I'm aware of tho.
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just stop fking making it want login and timeout
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best thing is that vendors can see who gave them good and bad feedback . love the new lay-out very nice and slick
A++++
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nice new look,big up the dread pirate roberts and the team
the large listings look good imho,can really see some nice illicit goods up close,anyone who has joined up since the new look must be licking there lips :)
i did when i first joined a while back and i did again when i saw the new look
always good to change things around every now and then
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I can only access the first page of my listings :(
When i click page 2 it just takes me back to my account page, the listings are up, but i can't edit or delete them etc.
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its heck of alot slower for me :(
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best thing is that vendors can see who gave them good and bad feedback . love the new lay-out very nice and slick
A++++
You could do that on the old site.
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site is impossible to even fking use right now.
- % sign bug still
- Under orders if someone includes alot of text in the "address" box big black area's appear making the page all screwed up.
- Constant login prompt
- Listings page 2 returns to account page
- Number of listings # next to categories gone :( (i liked that feature)
- i hate the giant listings. Is there a way to change the size?
You could cut down on the traffic of the site if you make the listings smaller and stop making sub sections for the account page.
All that does is add network traffic
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took me bout 15 attempts to login
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^ Same here
Having trouble logging in. Took 4 attempts before I managed to log in successfully but then I get logged out almost immediately (kicked back to login screen).
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I can only access the first page of my listings :(
When i click page 2 it just takes me back to my account page, the listings are up, but i can't edit or delete them etc.
this should be fixed, working on the access/speed issues
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See if you can fix the orders page DPR.
If someonne includes like, a PGP key in the address box, The page to the vendor has giant black boxs un the columns.
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I can only access the first page of my listings :(
When i click page 2 it just takes me back to my account page, the listings are up, but i can't edit or delete them etc.
this should be fixed, working on the access/speed issues
While things are being fixed.. Why don't you guys turn error reporting off, with errors being logged to a private file that gets inspected by staff to see what hackers are attempting to do would be incredible! There are multiple reasons this is a very good idea.
Some random pages discussing securing PHP applications.
http://net.tutsplus.com/tutorials/php/5-helpful-tips-for-creating-secure-php-applications/
https://learn.iis.net/page.aspx/744/secure-php-with-configuration-settings/
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Also having problems with it logging me out randomly and then having a hard time logging back in. Making it very difficult to get orders out today :(
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See if you can fix the orders page DPR.
If someonne includes like, a PGP key in the address box, The page to the vendor has giant black boxs un the columns.
a temporary fix has been applied
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I can only access the first page of my listings :(
When i click page 2 it just takes me back to my account page, the listings are up, but i can't edit or delete them etc.
this should be fixed, working on the access/speed issues
While things are being fixed.. Why don't you guys turn error reporting off, with errors being logged to a private file that gets inspected by staff to see what hackers are attempting to do would be incredible! There are multiple reasons this is a very good idea.
Some random pages discussing securing PHP applications.
http://net.tutsplus.com/tutorials/php/5-helpful-tips-for-creating-secure-php-applications/
https://learn.iis.net/page.aspx/744/secure-php-with-configuration-settings/
error reporting to the browser should be turned off. Please pm me with where/when you saw an error.
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I haven't placed an order on the new skin yet, but I must say it is looking quite smart. The featured listings bar complete with pictures and prices is a great addition.
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Seems like the server is lightening fast as well. Its almost like being on a clearnet website. Looks like DPR put our delicious escrow money to good use, no other website I'd rather use!
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this shit is baller!
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Love the new look, very professional in a way. Feels safer lol, but yes bring back the numbers next to the categories please
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Oh my god, it's fucking gorgeous! Nice work. Super slick. Functionally, this is leagues ahead of the old style.
I LOVE that you added pictures to the listings page. Too dope.
The only thing I was really hoping for that didn't show up was having the option to always display EU/GBP/USD and BTC similtaneously.
I have to say though... I am gunna kind of miss the shady "old school" look.
5/5 would buy again.
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I was kind of wary, when I read this thread about the changes. I thought they were completely unnecessary, and worried that at worst they would be over-the-top and slow down my usage.
But boy I was wrong, thank goodness I was wrong! It looks AMAZING, and for me is faster than ever! I'm so glad SR is evolving!
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Just a suggestion but maybe give user's the option for old style or new. Dont get me wrong I think the improved site is by far the best you could have done!!!!!!!!!
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Love the speed! It really feels like the clearnet now..
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I can only access the first page of my listings :(
When i click page 2 it just takes me back to my account page, the listings are up, but i can't edit or delete them etc.
this should be fixed, working on the access/speed issues
Wicked, everythings working like a well oiled machine now :)
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Great work!
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i'm finally starting to dig it! :)
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Very sexy site now. Love it.
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Looks great - nice work - much appreciated - as others have recommended, would add focus on quantity within search and item listings
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More like an old bug that I thought would get changed in the upgrade. Or maybe Im missing something:
Any reason why when sort by "best selling" an unranked vendor with 0 sales ever would show up before me in the product list?
With this new site re-design putting pictures in the forefront and kinda backseating the vendor as a vendor; this matters to me now.
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Anyone else notice that their refund rate changed after the upgrade? Mine went from 1.22% to 2.44% ......
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Most of the site looks much better with the new style, but PLEASE do something about the product listings. It's much better to be able to see a large number of listings on the screen rather than just a few items with large thumbnails and large text. Trying to compare listings like that is absolutely maddening, even on my 27" 1920x1080 screen--- only 5-6 listings are visible at a time!! Could there be an option to display product listings the old way?
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. keep up the good work DPR! Honestly tho SR is still very young. I suspect this is only one of the many changes that were liable to see. I wander if he added anymore servers or some much needed bandwidth. I think he's doing a really great job. This place will definitely morph into a different look many more times. I imagine that there has been many offers to buy it. Zuckerbird probably wants to buy it hahaha. How many members does SR have now? Almost 28,000?
A great big THANK YOU to all the Silk Road staff who work so hard
I will notice the other changes as I travel down the road
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Looks sick!
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I had to double check that I was at the correct URL. But I love the new look...... sexy :D
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I'm happy with the majority of changes :)
Makes SR look more elegant, which befits its ethos, and like the other fellow said SR should keep on evolving.
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I concur, awesome site improvements. Great work DPR. Are you really doing this all yourself? If so, that's amazing.
I also notice the bug with the Best Selling sort order. It's definitely not correct. I saw a $5,000 item at the top of the list and I highly doubted it was the best selling.
I have a few ideas for functionality improvements. Let's improve the feedback display since this can be very crucial for buyers if they want to buy from a vendor. By default all feedback could display the buyer's home country. Take this from their settings. Or when giving the feedback the buyer choose which country it was shipped to.
Secondly, let's allow buyers to more easily search through a vendor's negative reviews. Put a drop down arrow and say show all feedback that is 1/5.
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I'm pretty content with the changes.
Def love the speed increase.
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Very nice job DPR, as always
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Looks good. My only criticism is that bookmarked items are a bit squished together on the right side of the main page. Would be nice to have them listed at the bottom again so they are displayed a bit cleaner.
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I think it looks bloody lovely, fair play a job well done !! congrats to everyone who worked on it and thank you !!!! :D
I do have a question though... In the future will the option to sort products by price and/or volume be added ? Ooooooo that would would be even lovelyer that would. it would honest :D lololo
Thanks again for all your work.
Skunky.
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Thanx SR team. Site looks great and we appreciate your hard work, time and consideration.
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SR is looking better then ever..Digging the slick new look...Thanks for all the hard work you all (SR TEAM) put in to it..Stay Safe..
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I agree it looks good, but I have found a bug. Or it appears to be a bug.
I sent a message to SR Vendor support, is there anywhere else I should report it?
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I don't "hate" it, but at the moment, I'm not digging it much. The images have become a hinderance to viewing the listings.
The "look" is nice, but the gigantic images need to be tweaked a bit, if not discarded all together. In most cases, images don't mean a whole lot. They have their purpose but they aren't important. They're just a nice bonus. Images shouldn't overshadow description and price.
Having dozens of drug pictures on my monitor makes the browsing experience less comfortable.
Keep the fresh look, but I could really do without the images!
I also really miss the #'s next to each category. That was a feature I relied on heavily.
Until these things are resolved, the fact is that Black Market Reloaded has better features.
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Two thumbs up for all involved. Looks good so far.
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Nice. It would be good if I can see my seller feedback (100) as the old version.
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BEUTIFUL! ;D ;D ;D
Thanks DPR and other helpers!
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The "look" is nice, but the gigantic images need to be tweaked a bit, if not discarded all together. In most cases, images don't mean a whole lot. They have their purpose but they aren't important. They're just a nice bonus. Images shouldn't overshadow description and price.
Having dozens of drug pictures on my monitor makes the browsing experience less comfortable.
I also really miss the #'s next to each category. That was a feature I relied on heavily.
I'm with you on these two points.
Really hope we can get the numbers back.
And the listings have become uncomfortable to view, it's like you've just zoomed in on the old listings, I feel like I'm sitting 30cms from my monitor. We need to zoom out a bit, make the listings smaller so more fit on the page.
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I really like the thumnail next to the listing, it could do with a tiny little downsize, though I'm not fussed.
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Love it.
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The "look" is nice, but the gigantic images need to be tweaked a bit, if not discarded all together. In most cases, images don't mean a whole lot. They have their purpose but they aren't important. They're just a nice bonus. Images shouldn't overshadow description and price.
Having dozens of drug pictures on my monitor makes the browsing experience less comfortable.
I also really miss the #'s next to each category. That was a feature I relied on heavily.
I'm with you on these two points.
Really hope we can get the numbers back.
And the listings have become uncomfortable to view, it's like you've just zoomed in on the old listings, I feel like I'm sitting 30cms from my monitor. We need to zoom out a bit, make the listings smaller so more fit on the page.
+1 agreed completely . maybe an option to turn preview images on or off in the listing index. zoom out a bit. show number again. and sort by price would be sweet too.
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I like the new look. It's a step towards greater functionality. And who doesn't just LURVE functionality?
Way to go Silk Road Staff!
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The new Layout is certainly very nice, congrats.
But as already discussed, the functionality in my opinion are worst.
- The item count for each category is a MUST. So it's easy to monitor if new items are added or not.
- The picture size could be ok, for people who likes it. But it's really unpractical to me, to scroll down the list to check the country where the item ships from. With the old layout it was possible to check immediately the country. Now it takes longer. Another feature really needed for this design, it's a drop-down list with all the country of the category, so it would be easy to filter only the desired country.
For all the rest, a great job ^^
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Love the new layout and especially the "a few words from dpr" part ;)
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bello!!good pirate....
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Hello everyone,
Today i saw the new design of sr for the first time. My first thought was that it must have been a lot of work to implement all the changes, then that i liked the old version of the site better. I too was randomly logged out. Logging back in took me 10 minutes, i assume that because of the slow reaction time the captchas i entered must have each time have expired too soon.
Better looks is nice, but i'm not even sure about that. With the old version the info was presented in a much more compact fashion. The listings page now has pictures of the products but one has too spent much more time to find the wanted products. The size of the fonts is strangely chosen. The name of the vendor, which for me is an important piece of information, is too small. The messages/orders/account menu items are too small. I think the table form was more efficient. Even if the performance issues and the forced logouts were fixed, i would still prefer the older design.
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Cool design! :)
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- The item count for each category is a MUST. So it's easy to monitor if new items are added or not.
This, I really miss that feature.
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As a Vendor I've had a chance to use the site today. I do like the new looks and it could help draw in more new members to the road but from a vendor standpoint looks dont matter at all to me, just functionality. I don't like that the account page has less info on the main page and more sub categories. I'd like to have more info displayed on one page so I don't have to navigate between pages or waste more time clicking and loading sub pages.
I do like the new look but I don't think any of the improvements have made vending more efficient, just less :/
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great look!! but why drop off the items' count for each category???
BTW massive job, and tons of karma for all SR staff. peace and harmony NSO
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As a Vendor,I don't like that the account page has less info on the main page and more sub categories. I'd like to have more info displayed on one page so I don't have to navigate between pages or waste more time clicking and loading sub pages.
+1, me too.
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listening
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Definitely a beautiful new look, though the pics are a little large and kinda take up too much room making it a little harder to easily identify seller or country where shipped from while having a quick scroll through.
As others have mentioned the item count should be brought back, that i say is a must.
All in all top effort 8)
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can we get a mobile version of the site?
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The look is nice. However the messaging system now sucks.
You cannot see the subject line of each individual message etc... very annoying!
I wish the new look just was aesthetically differant however the core system of SR remained....
Hope DPR is going to improve it to how it worked previously...
Matrix 8)
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I agree with many that, while the new "polished" look of the site is nice, the removal of functionality is a huge no-no in web design...item counts, ease of access of certain information, it's a little bit harder to use the site with these changes (albeit also a little bit "nicer")
In any case, I appreciate the work that went into the changes--especially those we can't see on the back-end. Keep it up.
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hey i got a suggestion could you bring back the feature where it showed how many listings their was in each category? thanks gimzo.
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I think the new site looks great and seems to load in a little faster as well. I do miss the facet counts, but understand the tradeoff you have to make relative to performance.
It's nice to see that development continues.
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as with all change it brings all kinds of complaints..
does anyone take any design classes on your team??
i do like that u are trying to update and make the experience bright bold and new but there are some very basic design principals that could have been look at when placing pages together. AS Stripped down and simple as the old design was it worked very well as far as gathering information to make your purchase.
keep moving forward!
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Wow that's a sexy fucking site :)
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category counts: back by popular demand!
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ahhhh....DPR....you are THE MAN! thanks!!
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category counts: back by popular demand!
Go DPR! Gotta love sites with active developers who pay attention and take feedback
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If possible, on the item listing pages, could you make the vendor's account name bold or bigger? It blends in really well with the other text like country etc, and doesn't catch your eye like it used to :)
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category counts: back by popular demand!
that rocks.
also, i want to say that i absolutely love the idea of the backup wallet. here's hoping it never had to be used
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category counts: back by popular demand!
that rocks.
also, i want to say that i absolutely love the idea of the backup wallet. here's hoping it never had to be used
Backup wallet! I didn't know we had that now. I'm going to check it out.
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category counts: back by popular demand!
that rocks.
also, i want to say that i absolutely love the idea of the backup wallet. here's hoping it never had to be used
Backup wallet! I didn't know we had that now. I'm going to check it out.
it's not a backup wallet on SR, just an address you have in case of emergency.
you can find it on your Accounts page in the Settings section
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Yeah. After he mentioned it I went and looked, and was disappointed. I already have one set up for an emergency, and just simply forgot about it. I set it up about 7 months ago.
Today I am disappoint.
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Yeah. After he mentioned it I went and looked, and was disappointed. I already have one set up for an emergency, and just simply forgot about it. I set it up about 7 months ago.
Today I am disappoint.
i feel like an idiot for never noticing it before
lol
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It looks so great! Very professional. ;D I'm glad SR is continually striving to improve itself.
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My order page is blank with the exception of headers/footers in tact. Any idea what's up? Besides that, loving the new interface!
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New site looks amazing. I'm glad the numbers next to the products are back. Looks like there is plenty of feedback asking for new features. Some of the requests make sense and the implementation of them would make the SR experience that much better.
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New site looks great. Easier to navigate, and looks cleaner!!
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I'm all for site redesigns, its mainly a CSS upgrade this, but I'm not sure what it does brings much with it. OK it looks a bit nicer.
Miss the number of vendors per drug, don't really need vendor photos at the size they are as it now takes way longer to scroll the list and loads don't bother with pictures anyway.
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Sort by bestseller is still only working in some categories, and seems to be reversed in others.
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wow!
the new SR looks fantastic, I had some fears, that i won't like the changes, but now I have to say, respect to the team for this nice layout :)
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Sort by bestseller is still only working in some categories, and seems to be reversed in others.
I reported this to support, it is not sorting on best selling it is sorting it from oldest vendor to youngest vendor. A vendor that has been on for 6 months is higher on the list than one that has been on for 2 months. Then the order of the listings from the vendor are sorted based on first entered.
Vendor support acknowledged that it is a bug and responded that they were looking into it.
Dont know if this helps anyone else but thought I would say it on here as well.
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I love the new look! 8)
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Sort by bestseller is still only working in some categories, and seems to be reversed in others.
I reported this to support, it is not sorting on best selling it is sorting it from oldest vendor to youngest vendor. A vendor that has been on for 6 months is higher on the list than one that has been on for 2 months. Then the order of the listings from the vendor are sorted based on first entered.
Vendor support acknowledged that it is a bug and responded that they were looking into it.
Dont know if this helps anyone else but thought I would say it on here as well.
Thanks for getting this looked into James, but the bug is even more then that. I have a guy with 0 feedback ever that joined after me that is still getting listed before me under Cubensis.
Not a huge deal, but to the newb buyer - it is a deceiving sort option.
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love the new look! and site has been stable for a couple of weeks too! awesome. thanks a bunch.
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category counts: back by popular demand!
A++++++++++++ :)
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DPR FOR PRESIDENT!!!
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Love the new look, haven't had an internet connection for a few days due to weather so this is the first time I have gotten a chance to check it out.
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category counts: back by popular demand!
yay ;)
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Appreciate your time and upgrades!
Although it is eye candy, the layout is a bit more work for vendors trying to access their listings, profile, settings, etc.
especially when the site is running slow :(
I wish there were a way to customize your toolbar or something....
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I love the new SR look. Its simply great and I'm proud to be a part. Great Forum! forum -enquirer
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as a web developer i can say this is a lovely design and layout.
much appreciation for your efforts. 8)
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The main change I was really hoping for out of all this was to have more sorting options available in the listings. It can be a long process to go through pages upon pages of listing when you are just looking for that one amount or price or location.
An 'advanced' search I feel would be really useful, that way you can narrow listings down to exactly the criteria one is desiring to purchase.
With that said, digging the new and improved SR :) I just hope with all these cosmetic changes that the team so successfully launched this week that they are keeping our security twice as hard.
In no way am I doubting that security is an issue as I've been around for some time, but we gotta keep this shit going as long as we fuckin can!
Nobody wants to wind up in a jail cell 20 years from now over this shit, gotta keep safety as key ALWAYS!
I'm always worried that the site may go down after I transfer btc or something, It would suck if it just blacked out for a couple days and nobody knew what the fuck was going on for days...I know it's happened before and I really hope with the extra bandwidth that the servers can handle all the traffic.
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Am I an idiot? Can't find where my old Transaction #'s are(been member for less than a month, how often is this information cleared and if cleared how can I proceed to withdraw this information?)
Any help is highly appreciated!!!
Props to new layout, is nice :)
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Hello,
for some reason I can't see menu with new look (first few days it was there, but now gone), all I can see is "Shop by category" and small round empty div under it. I pressed CTRL + R few times too, so all new and changed files for SR should be up to date. Also nothing happens when I hover or click that area..
Can provide screenshot or html if needed.
Edit: Missed this thread: http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=32599.0, though problem still exists hovering with mouse doesn't help :/
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The main change I was really hoping for out of all this was to have more sorting options available in the listings. It can be a long process to go through pages upon pages of listing when you are just looking for that one amount or price or location.
An 'advanced' search I feel would be really useful, that way you can narrow listings down to exactly the criteria one is desiring to purchase.
good idea mate, i was thinking on the same lines
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I like it.
When I first came here I didn't actually believe it was real, and that was with the old look.
Now, any newcomers are going to be even more mindblown.
All you need now DPR is a "favourite items" list.. and an automated email system that messages users when their designated items have come back in stock/lowered price/whatever the variable.
Then this truly will be the "amazon of drugs"
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I think its fucking AMAZING! its like this shouldnt be real!!?? lol
DPR, right up there fronting his amazing fruition of a dream realized. I'm so excited to be a part of this revolution of freedom of choice as adults.....I can't imagine a more fruitful time in our history as drug users!
oh!! I'm on 2C-B right now so..... :) :) :) :P :P :P
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I've been gone for a while and I must say the new look is great! :D
Makes me happy that I am able to be part of this revolution.
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I Miss the direct sub-category navigation from an item.
For instance if I'm looking at a listing of hash (subcategory for cannabis), I can click hash and it will take me to all the hash listings again.
Now I have to go back to cannabis and select hash again.
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As a Vendor I've had a chance to use the site today. I do like the new looks and it could help draw in more new members to the road but from a vendor standpoint looks dont matter at all to me, just functionality.
I'm sorry to have edited your post so much awakened. I want anyone who may see this that I DID NOT HAVE AND I DO NOT HAVE AWAKENED'S PERMISSION TO EDIT OUT WHAT I EDITED OUT! I'm certain that must be grounds for divorce in some country(s) or in some court some where, but I didn't understand some of it and when I don't get it I try to zip it! Your welcome!
That disclaimer being noted and certainly not to always be the proverbial stick in the mud, I must say; 1. I don't like the new look. I must confess that I don't like change of anything so don't please worry too much or loose sleep over THAT! ( like anyone was 'worry'ing about anything you think or say! :) who are you talking to anyway? ) and 2. I don't know if it's me or what, but I can't see much of what I think might be there. I don't know that I have any color blindness or other ocular oddities that could cause this sudden inability to see or not see something all of a sudden ??? or that may or may not be anything anyone else sees clearly here on The Road since this new look/design replaced the old look/design. I have never been diagnosed of any ailment or deformity that would cause this problem. Until having to use the new SR look/design did it even occur to me that a lack of color harmony once dumped on the screen in the peanut could be a possibility?
There are no options that I'm missing, right? A button there (but I can't see it because of this ... sudden color blindness maybe? :) ) that says "To view in classic mode click here"? Right?
It gives me a headache trying to see what may or may not be there. Maybe there is one of those, or there could be one of those "You are here" diagrams like they have in stores so you know where things are at when walking into unfamiliar places? So that people like me don't get lost or even maybe they miss something they may have purchased, but just can't see the path to it? Or even other potential customers like myself that can't see things because of an inability to see things because of the colors? I don't really know what the problem is. I feel like I'm going to step on something or fall down a stair way that wasn't marked clearly or something. In that sense it's a pretty cool design/look that makes one feel like blowing chunks. It is an exhilarating feeling when I think about it, but so is the feeling of jumping from a perfectly good airplane. I don't like that either and no matter how many times I do I spew, yet I do it any way. (hold on - I'm getting nauseated and I'm getting confused ??? why did I come here?)
Oh yeh! If there was something like the 'yrh' thingy I was just talking about and a recalled memory of falling through that stair way while entering the main floor of Silk Road hit me, thinking about falling though a stair way you can't see its location now because the tiles or carpet have just been installed and the railings have not been put back up...... wait! I think I've done that! ( damnit Beavis! ??? I'm confused again! Crap!) Oh yeh - the 'yrh' thingy - Then I would know I'm not seeing something that I think is there but in reality is not OR something really IS there and I am seeing it as I trip over because of the new carpeting colors/lay out OR I'm not looking for something I feel is there, but really is not there?
Damn it, I'm confused again! ??? and nauseated too!
I loved the old 'black and white' sharpness/feeling of things in the old version. I never experienced 'vertigo' before from SR. Looking at listings when you enter an item to search for - I couldn't even find that window at first - now seems harder to see too. I'm guessing it's that 'color' thingy too. No, I'm not smoking anything nor am I under the influence of MDA or anything else that could possibly cause this problem, but maybe that IS the problem, eh Beavis?
Lastly when am doing something in that corner that has the 'shop by category' link, just by my passing of my cursor there or even close to 'there', - that area, I could be editing a post or doing anything 'there' and then like an old childhood nightmare coming back to haunt me - the list drops down scaring the shit out of me! Makes me remember the times adults would get such a kick out of scaring the fuck out of me before I knew what it was (the Jack in the Crotch toy - hideous!) and while I screamed in absolute horrific terror, they would laugh like banshees!
(he-heh but I got em all back!:)
It just makes me feel like I'm a kid again and some morbid mother fucker is getting their jollies knowing I just soiled myself - again!!! - and is (are?) getting a real 'tickle' from showing me my first Jack in the Box! Again! You would think I'd get used to it, but I am jumpy just thinking about that list jumping out and onto this page! I'm not sure why but it seems to give me a start every time it happens and DAD's (Depends Adult Diapers) are really expensive! It's kinda irritating that it reminds me once again that I don't like change.
Shrug? Sorry
And in closing - I seem to be the only one that doesn't care for the new look/design. I'm so delusional I guess, because when I had the time to mess around here and after a few days using the new design and coming to see how others thought about it, I really expected to see a whole bunch of comments that were just different versions of my .... dislike(s) of the new look/design and now I'm depressed a little more now to once again be reminded of my inability to conform - even in the presence of other non-conformist!
I've never been able to just swim in the direction of the majority. My Science teacher that I had from 2nd grade until 6th constantly reminded me of this "abnormal" ..... nature I had - have. But now that I think about it - now; he also said it was my strongest trait and to follow such personal inclinations when they came to me - to do so with everything and that my life and those live's of others' around me - would be enriched more because of it!
{knock knock knock?? - HELLO?!? Mr. Downs!!! I'm STILL waiting!!!}
Soooo - probably just another one of many personal defects housed in this tiny little brain pan of mine that . . . . . oh never mind!
Shut up and say 'goodnight Gracie!'
Oh yeh! Did I tell y'all that I love ya? Nah, better not say that either. ??? damn! But I do! :)
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As a Vendor I've had a chance to use the site today. I do like the new looks and it could help draw in more new members to the road but from a vendor standpoint looks dont matter at all to me, just functionality.
I'm sorry to have edited your post so much awakened. I want anyone who may see this that I DID NOT HAVE AND I DO NOT HAVE AWAKENED'S PERMISSION TO EDIT OUT WHAT I EDITED OUT! I'm certain that must be grounds for divorce in some country(s) or in some court some where, but I didn't understand some of it and when I don't get it I try to zip it! Your welcome!
That disclaimer being noted and certainly not to always be the proverbial stick in the mud, I must say; 1. I don't like the new look. I must confess that I don't like change of anything so don't please worry too much or loose sleep over THAT! ( like anyone was 'worry'ing about anything you think or say! :) who are you talking to anyway? ) and 2. I don't know if it's me or what, but I can't see much of what I think might be there. I don't know that I have any color blindness or other ocular oddities that could cause this sudden inability to see or not see something all of a sudden ??? or that may or may not be anything anyone else sees clearly here on The Road since this new look/design replaced the old look/design. I have never been diagnosed of any ailment or deformity that would cause this problem. Until having to use the new SR look/design did it even occur to me that a lack of color harmony once dumped on the screen in the peanut could be a possibility?
There are no options that I'm missing, right? A button there (but I can't see it because of this ... sudden color blindness maybe? :) ) that says "To view in classic mode click here"? Right?
It gives me a headache trying to see what may or may not be there. Maybe there is one of those, or there could be one of those "You are here" diagrams like they have in stores so you know where things are at when walking into unfamiliar places? So that people like me don't get lost or even maybe they miss something they may have purchased, but just can't see the path to it? Or even other potential customers like myself that can't see things because of an inability to see things because of the colors? I don't really know what the problem is. I feel like I'm going to step on something or fall down a stair way that wasn't marked clearly or something. In that sense it's a pretty cool design/look that makes one feel like blowing chunks. It is an exhilarating feeling when I think about it, but so is the feeling of jumping from a perfectly good airplane. I don't like that either and no matter how many times I do I spew, yet I do it any way. (hold on - I'm getting nauseated and I'm getting confused ??? why did I come here?)
Oh yeh! If there was something like the 'yrh' thingy I was just talking about and a recalled memory of falling through that stair way while entering the main floor of Silk Road hit me, thinking about falling though a stair way you can't see its location now because the tiles or carpet have just been installed and the railings have not been put back up...... wait! I think I've done that! ( damnit Beavis! ??? I'm confused again! Crap!) Oh yeh - the 'yrh' thingy - Then I would know I'm not seeing something that I think is there but in reality is not OR something really IS there and I am seeing it as I trip over because of the new carpeting colors/lay out OR I'm not looking for something I feel is there, but really is not there?
Damn it, I'm confused again! ??? and nauseated too!
I loved the old 'black and white' sharpness/feeling of things in the old version. I never experienced 'vertigo' before from SR. Looking at listings when you enter an item to search for - I couldn't even find that window at first - now seems harder to see too. I'm guessing it's that 'color' thingy too. No, I'm not smoking anything nor am I under the influence of MDA or anything else that could possibly cause this problem, but maybe that IS the problem, eh Beavis?
Lastly when am doing something in that corner that has the 'shop by category' link, just by my passing of my cursor there or even close to 'there', - that area, I could be editing a post or doing anything 'there' and then like an old childhood nightmare coming back to haunt me - the list drops down scaring the shit out of me! Makes me remember the times adults would get such a kick out of scaring the fuck out of me before I knew what it was (the Jack in the Crotch toy - hideous!) and while I screamed in absolute horrific terror, they would laugh like banshees!
(he-heh but I got em all back!:)
It just makes me feel like I'm a kid again and some morbid mother fucker is getting their jollies knowing I just soiled myself - again!!! - and is (are?) getting a real 'tickle' from showing me my first Jack in the Box! Again! You would think I'd get used to it, but I am jumpy just thinking about that list jumping out and onto this page! I'm not sure why but it seems to give me a start every time it happens and DAD's (Depends Adult Diapers) are really expensive! It's kinda irritating that it reminds me once again that I don't like change.
Shrug? Sorry
And in closing - I seem to be the only one that doesn't care for the new look/design. I'm so delusional I guess, because when I had the time to mess around here and after a few days using the new design and coming to see how others thought about it, I really expected to see a whole bunch of comments that were just different versions of my .... dislike(s) of the new look/design and now I'm depressed a little more now to once again be reminded of my inability to conform - even in the presence of other non-conformist!
I've never been able to just swim in the direction of the majority. My Science teacher that I had from 2nd grade until 6th constantly reminded me of this "abnormal" ..... nature I had - have. But now that I think about it - now; he also said it was my strongest trait and to follow such personal inclinations when they came to me - to do so with everything and that my life and those live's of others' around me - would be enriched more because of it!
{knock knock knock?? - HELLO?!? Mr. Downs!!! I'm STILL waiting!!!}
Soooo - probably just another one of many personal defects housed in this tiny little brain pan of mine that . . . . . oh never mind!
Shut up and say 'goodnight Gracie!'
Oh yeh! Did I tell y'all that I love ya? Nah, better not say that either. ??? damn! But I do! :)
...and I thought I was fucked up! :-P
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...and I thought I was fucked up! :-P
Its called Meth. ::)
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Am I just not getting it right or are there suddenly very less products available? last time i checked before the update i mean there has been about 500 entries on "drugs" and now there are 209 and it seems like the section "ecstasy" has nearly no products left...can smb tell whats the reason?
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Thanks DPR and the SR Team for making this all possible!!!!! ;D
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This is really extraordinary; it really simulates an Amazon or Ebay shopping experience. Also, it's going to be much more user friendly for newcomers. Not that I had any problem with the old site but this is simply a much better upgrade.
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I like the new look, today i login in and after 1 minut i must login again, and now evry time i must login again.
I hope you make it better, else go back to the old design.
Greetings
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With all due respect, it was a terrible idea. We basically traded functionality for aesthetics, right?
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With all due respect, it was a terrible idea. We basically traded functionality for aesthetics, right?
+1
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I like the new look, today i login in and after 1 minut i must login again, and now evry time i must login again.
I hope you make it better, else go back to the old design.
Greetings
I'm having the same problem - it took me several tries to login and then I kept getting kicked out. I suspect the problem isn't related to the new look, but is something behind the scenes.
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Hi there, dont know if im in the right place to post here, am a newbie and haven't got the foggiest idea of how to make a purchase, send my Adress encrypted or anything, im on an android fone at the minute using ORBOT to connect ti the TOR network and using ORWEBv2 any info on how to get started and maximum safety would be great!!! Much appreciated
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Hi there, dont know if im in the right place to post here, am a newbie and haven't got the foggiest idea of how to make a purchase, send my Adress encrypted or anything, im on an android fone at the minute using ORBOT to connect ti the TOR network and using ORWEBv2 any info on how to get started and maximum safety would be great!!! Much appreciated
Take some time and read through the forums you will find the answers you look for.
Make sure you update Tor!
otherwise I like the new look!!! 8)
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New look is cool, and good to hear from ya DPR!
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great work, drp. don't switch back to the old one. 8)
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YUP
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Hi peeps? I need some help, im into my speed and into my H, sick of buying shit gear off all my local dealers etc, really want to order some fine goods from here, but dont have a clue where to start, I've opened a mt.gox account but have no idea how to acquire bit coins, av read thru the forums here and still have no idea, I love my top quality drugs and want to purchase some, im from the UK ans dont mean to be a pain in the arse, any help will be gladly appreciated!
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to be honest i like the old look better. Can you make a function to make the pictures smaller and whatnot?
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No problems here. I like it so far.
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Diggin' the new feel. I'm all in favour of progress. Some more advanced search functions would help though....
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Hi peeps? I need some help, im into my speed and into my H, sick of buying shit gear off all my local dealers etc, really want to order some fine goods from here, but dont have a clue where to start, I've opened a mt.gox account but have no idea how to acquire bit coins, av read thru the forums here and still have no idea, I love my top quality drugs and want to purchase some, im from the UK ans dont mean to be a pain in the arse, any help will be gladly appreciated!
I'm not trying to be a dick, but I'm probably going to come across as one...
You clearly need to look through the forums harder. Everything you need to know has already been asked and answered here. If you have specific questions, asking in the proper forum would be more helpful than posting this on a thread about a site redesign. The security subforum is a great starting place for questions about bitcoins. Also, try a Google search for 'purchasing bitcoins from the UK' and you will find lots of helpful information.
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Hi peeps? I need some help, im into my speed and into my H, sick of buying shit gear off all my local dealers etc, really want to order some fine goods from here, but dont have a clue where to start, I've opened a mt.gox account but have no idea how to acquire bit coins, av read thru the forums here and still have no idea, I love my top quality drugs and want to purchase some, im from the UK ans dont mean to be a pain in the arse, any help will be gladly appreciated!
I'm not trying to be a dick, but I'm probably going to come across as one...
You clearly need to look through the forums harder. Everything you need to know has already been asked and answered here. If you have specific questions, asking in the proper forum would be more helpful than posting this on a thread about a site redesign. The security subforum is a great starting place for questions about bitcoins. Also, try a Google search for 'purchasing bitcoins from the UK' and you will find lots of helpful information.
i think what j0blo , the undisputed ruler and expert of this forum with a massiv 67 posts under his belt is trying to say, is keep your questions vague dont do any research and ignore the hell out of google and the information here because its all wrong. thats what i get reading his post, after i get through all of the technical know-how and tons of expertise that radiates off of him like a naked pattinson sparkling in the sun.
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Are you illiterate?
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I like how tidy it is on the vendor accounts now, much more streamlined.
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J0blo you are right my man...Trollface you are a twat anyway.....Drugfiend81, c'mon man, you can do better than this? If you don't have it in you to find out how to go about the processes required here to buy drugs online, you probably shouldn't be here. This is a thread about the new look of SR, not for asking questions about how someone can hold your hand and walk you through the process of BTC, PGP or buying drugs off the site. Just do some fucking research man....If you are going to succeed and thrive here you will need to have some wits about you and it does my nut when I see people asking the kind of shit you are asking.......
Riggghhhhhhtttt. Back on topic....I think the pics off all listings give it a great touch. Great job DPR & crew! The bugs will get ironed out soon and the site will run as smoothly as it always has!!
Shit I'm high......sorry for that splurge!! >:D
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Good look
thanks for everyone who chipped in.
in fact its snapier than original boring look that may be down to faster and more servers ?!
otherwise good work
Peace
TWM
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Scared the hell out of me when i first saw it, i wasnt ready and thought it was a phishing site, typed the SR address in at least 3x to make sure haha
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The new style has no javascript, only html and css like the current style. If we do ever introduce something like that, you will be given forewarning, and it will not be required to use the site. The new style will be a little more bandwidth intensive, but it has been tested and our infrastructure and the tor network should be able to handle it, though the final deployment will be the real test.
i think you should bring some optional javascript. but how much of an issue is it to enable js on a tor browser? why is it disabled in the first place? does it put us at greater risk?
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pewpew.
Screw the scriptures.
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How do I view items that are available from overseas vendors?
I can't see that option anymore.
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How do I view items that are available from overseas vendors?
I can't see that option anymore.
Look for the little check box above the listings.. and make sure it is NOT checked. Should read "Domestic Only"
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As a new user I find it very easy to navigate :)
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With all due respect, it was a terrible idea. We basically traded functionality for aesthetics, right?
I hate to say so, but as a vender, I agree.
To me, it seems just as the new site was going up, SR received a lot of media attention resulting in a huge spike in new members (just my theory, due to a huge increase in new orders I recently received with fresh accounts with 0 feedback)
I have never experienced so many glitches and bugs on SR before- issues with logging in, being logged off randomly, and the worst issue I am having- I took down a bunch of listings last weekend, then right after put up some new ones, the listings submitted fine, each listing shows as being listed in my account profile and also on my vender page, the pictures and listings are all there, but if you click on any, nothing comes up, just error message stating "this item is not listed".. I had this confirmed by others on this forum who also tried to access my listings and got the same error...
We just need to be patient- there isnt much else we can do...
Peace
-Rx420
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With all due respect, it was a terrible idea. We basically traded functionality for aesthetics, right?
I hate to say so, but as a vender, I agree.
To me, it seems just as the new site was going up, SR received a lot of media attention resulting in a huge spike in new members (just my theory, due to a huge increase in new orders I recently received with fresh accounts with 0 feedback)
I have never experienced so many glitches and bugs on SR before- issues with logging in, being logged off randomly, and the worst issue I am having- I took down a bunch of listings last weekend, then right after put up some new ones, the listings submitted fine, each listing shows as being listed in my account profile and also on my vender page, the pictures and listings are all there, but if you click on any, nothing comes up, just error message stating "this item is not listed".. I had this confirmed by others on this forum who also tried to access my listings and got the same error...
We just need to be patient- there isnt much else we can do...
Peace
-Rx420
yeah i can see your issue, you have pics of products on your profile page but you cant buy them as they link to nothing, weird, have you asked support about it?
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The new style has no javascript, only html and css like the current style. If we do ever introduce something like that, you will be given forewarning, and it will not be required to use the site. The new style will be a little more bandwidth intensive, but it has been tested and our infrastructure and the tor network should be able to handle it, though the final deployment will be the real test.
i think you should bring some optional javascript. but how much of an issue is it to enable js on a tor browser? why is it disabled in the first place? does it put us at greater risk?
javascript is a potential security risk and could reveal your location.
TWM
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Yeah,
essentially using javascript on a Tor Hidden Service is a profound way to impact the exposure or your real ip address. Tor is also sensible to IRC and other chat methods (IRC Runs through Java Script I believe)... That's why its good to go to proxychains.sourceforge.net and download that proxy server but most importantly get a german web page translator and go to I2P.de and download that.
That program should take care of your ip address when combined with Javascript, IRC, IM, etc... It fills in tors voids.
Are there any other VPNs like Tor out there that I may not know of? :D
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no JS for silkroad please.
keep it as simple as possible with bandwidth usage as low as possible.
increase security features.
there are some potential weak points. not to the site itself, but for systematically attacks on user-accounts.
I will not release information about those, if sr devs are interested they can contact me, of course.
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According to TOR developers, TOR comes with javascript enabled by default and they recommend against disabling it. Unless I am misunderstanding?
From torproject.org: https://www.torproject.org/docs/faq.html.en#TBBJavaScriptEnabled
Why is NoScript configured to allow JavaScript by default in the Tor Browser Bundle? Isn't that unsafe?
We configure NoScript to allow JavaScript by default in the Tor Browser Bundle because many websites will not work with JavaScript disabled. Most users would give up on Tor entirely if a website they want to use requires JavaScript, because they would not know how to allow a website to use JavaScript (or that enabling JavaScript might make a website work).
I'm an expert! (No, really!) Can I configure NoScript to block JavaScript by default?
You can configure your copies of Tor Browser Bundle however you want to. However, we recommend that even users who know how to use NoScript leave JavaScript enabled if possible, because a website or exit node can easily distinguish users who disable JavaScript from users who use Tor Browser bundle with its default settings (thus users who disable JavaScript are less anonymous).
Disabling JavaScript by default, then allowing a few websites to run scripts, is especially bad for your anonymity: the set of websites which you allow to run scripts is very likely to uniquely identify your browser.
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excellent:) you are the best! 8)
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Hey man, looks are nice but you really need to put your efforts into the transaction system here. Taking days to get coin into an account is just not working out. Please spend a little less time in making things look pretty and get the finance end part of it working better.
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Hey man, looks are nice but you really need to put your efforts into the transaction system here. Taking days to get coin into an account is just not working out. Please spend a little less time in making things look pretty and get the finance end part of it working better.
Every time I add coins to my account I have Silk Rad generate a new bitcoin address... then I send the coins immediately. I have never had ir take more that 6 hours to co through.
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So what is this revolution image everywhere ?
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Have u all been hitting hte pipe hard ??
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Is this a fake post ?
Its a new "login screen" to snatch up PIN numbers. .. .
Why just a login screen as a preview?
This isn't DPR? Perhaps I 'm wrong But the link doesn't work most times and its probaby hosted on some chaps computer somewhere as a PHISHING site. IF not, its a good scam to pull off.
Hey I''m DPR - here is a new login screen sneakpeak for you to try out. .( nice long statement and write up) . (Try it out - it Grabs your pin code) yea !
Dunno. Hate login screens I guess. Call me paranoid.
Have u all been hitting hte pipe hard ??
;D this was a hoot!
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Is this a fake post ?
Its a new "login screen" to snatch up PIN numbers. .. .
Why just a login screen as a preview?
This isn't DPR? Perhaps I 'm wrong But the link doesn't work most times and its probaby hosted on some chaps computer somewhere as a PHISHING site. IF not, its a good scam to pull off.
Hey I''m DPR - here is a new login screen sneakpeak for you to try out. .( nice long statement and write up) . (Try it out - it Grabs your pin code) yea !
Dunno. Hate login screens I guess. Call me paranoid.
That pgp signature length is pathetic, someone could crack that manually :-\
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It looks the same to me, am I missing something peeps?
I actually like the way it looks now and I'm thinking of getting the camel tattooed on me.
The Green Camel (sounds like a Super-Hero) should become the logo for the Libertarian movement world wide.
FUCK RON PAUL, WE VOTE DPR FOR WORLD DICTATOR FOR LIFE!!!
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It looks the same to me, am I missing something peeps?
I actually like the way it looks now and I'm thinking of getting the camel tattooed on me.
The Green Camel (sounds like a Super-Hero) should become the logo for the Libertarian movement world wide.
FUCK RON PAUL, WE VOTE DPR FOR WORLD DICTATOR FOR LIFE!!!
Um....yeaa....this thread is like 3-4 months old.....
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LOL, that explains it! ::)
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LOL, that explains it! ::)
Yea gat damn newbies don't look at the thread start date and are just like "HER DER NEW LOOK"
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LOL, that explains it! ::)
Yea gat damn newbies don't look at the thread start date and are just like "HER DER NEW LOOK"
You're a fair way off the mark there dude, I've been here from the beginning and was puzzled why he would change it after a recent upgrade.
Get off your high horse!
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LOL, that explains it! ::)
Yea gat damn newbies don't look at the thread start date and are just like "HER DER NEW LOOK"
You're a fair way off the mark there dude, I've been here from the beginning and was puzzled why he would change it after a recent upgrade.
Get off your high horse!
Not what i meant. I meant newbie's who didn't look at the start date and revived a long dead thread. As to why he changed the look, it seem obvious, at least to me. He changed it when the site grew exponentially as people mentioned. Why? Easy. That's when the site gained real mainstream traction. When you go public(REALLY public) you generally roll out a user friendly redesign. Key example here would be facebook. If you're site doesn't look pretty, the untrained eye will just leave. Interface is very important to the non-tech savvy people( or minimally savvy). It's just growing pains, not something i would spend a lot of time thinking about