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Support => Feature requests => Topic started by: pachang on May 07, 2012, 08:18 am
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Would it possible to use a low-karma autoban feature?
Like if someone has more than 30 negative karma... and less than 5 positive karma... he cannot make any new posts.
That would be great and a much better solution than making the forum private.
In that case obvious assholes can be automatically banned without a mod having to interfere.
Creating a lot of new accounts with 3 or 4 posts is not such a problem in my opinion.
But there should be no "full users" with -60 karma. Guys like this are obviously not wanted by the forum community and should not be able to post.
I have been looking through the SMF documentation and have not found something, just a similar feature request. Perhaps this can be automated by a simple server side script?
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+100 for this
seriously !!!!!
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oh and how about BTC prize if you hit over 1000 + karma ;P
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oh and how about BTC prize if you hit over 1000 + karma ;P
Haha. I rekon people would abuse this though :P
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How about this.
If new users acquire a set amount of neg karma before they reach 100 posts then they get auto banned
This way there we make it much easier to get rid of the people making new accounts to troll.
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And it changes there avi to an image that says "Forum Troll" so folks know not to take them seriously.
~Digi
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And it changes there avi to an image that says "Forum Troll" so folks know not to take them seriously.
~Digi
If this is possible it would be awesome :)
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Yes the details are open for discussion.
I basically just suggested numbers that would make sure TBBsecurity gets banned :)
Of course it could also be used to ban newly created troll accounts.
But that's not such a problem. If someone sees "2 posts, newbie" he takes it with a grain of salt anyway.
A notorious troll like TBB however with his many posts has a "full member" under his name.
You see a lot of people taking his horseshit seriously for that reason.
this clearnet link is a SMF mod allowing member groups according to karma instead of post count
http://custom.simplemachines.org/mods/index.php?mod=1935
This however replaces the post-based member group system. In my opinion having both at the same time would be great.
I'll look into it...
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So you want autoban for people someone dislikes. I wish I had that. I have a mother in law, father in law, sister in law, and quite a few cousins I'd like banned from my house too, but it aint happening.
Banning people because you disagree with them or dislike them is the stupidest fucking thing you morons every came up with or agreed with.
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I researched a bit.
A possibility to do this:
execute:
add_integration_function('integrate_create_topic', '$sourcedir/BanIdiots.php',TRUE);
then you would need to provide the BanIdiots.php file
======= BanIdiots.php =======
if ($user_settings['karmaGood']<5 && $user_settings['karmaBad']>20){
$user_info['groups'][] = 13;
$user_info['avatar']['url']='http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Trollface.svg'
}
Then you have to create a member group with id 13 called "Trolls" with no permission to create new posts.
Now whenever a new post is created karma is checked, if the user has more than 20 negative karma and less than 5 positive karma he is added to the troll group (number 13) and gets a trollface as the avatar picture.
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So you want autoban for people someone dislikes. I wish I had that. I have a mother in law, father in law, sister in law, and quite a few cousins I'd like banned from my house too, but it aint happening.
Banning people because you disagree with them or dislike them is the stupidest fucking thing you morons every came up with or agreed with.
you think it would be bad to block trolls like TBBsecuiry?
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So you want autoban for people someone dislikes. I wish I had that. I have a mother in law, father in law, sister in law, and quite a few cousins I'd like banned from my house too, but it aint happening.
sorry but that's a stupid analogy.
It's more about banning someone from your house who comes there everyday to shit in your living room. And he's not related to you. And not your friend. What would you do with someone like that? clean up the shit every day?
Banning people because you disagree with them or dislike them is the stupidest fucking thing you morons every came up with or agreed with.
This is not the point.
It is not about liking or not liking people. It is about someone who is consistently spamming. You dont get to 30 negative karma because someone dislikes you. It's about a person being NOT promoted to "full member" if all the other full members agree that it's just a troll.
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So you want autoban for people someone dislikes. I wish I had that. I have a mother in law, father in law, sister in law, and quite a few cousins I'd like banned from my house too, but it aint happening.
Banning people because you disagree with them or dislike them is the stupidest fucking thing you morons every came up with or agreed with.
you think it would be bad to block trolls like TBBsecuiry?
The only banning I think should take place are the people posting fake SR busts without supporting links to news stories proving it, else all they are doing is trying to cause trouble.
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I disagree with this. I enjoy the trolls if they crack me up. Moonbear is a good example. I have laughed so hard off reading some of his posts.
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So you want autoban for people someone dislikes. I wish I had that. I have a mother in law, father in law, sister in law, and quite a few cousins I'd like banned from my house too, but it aint happening.
sorry but that's a stupid analogy.
It's more about banning someone from your house who comes there everyday to shit in your living room. And he's not related to you. And not your friend. What would you do with someone like that? clean up the shit every day?
Banning people because you disagree with them or dislike them is the stupidest fucking thing you morons every came up with or agreed with.
This is not the point.
It is not about liking or not liking people. It is about someone who is consistently spamming. You dont get to 30 negative karma because someone dislikes you. It's about a person being NOT promoted to "full member" if all the other full members agree that it's just a troll.
maybe we should have a list of approved speech you could supply us to stay within your guidelines of not being a troll or spammer.
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It's probably easier to get a policy put in place so mods can ban appropriately.
This feature would be easy to abuse, and those of us who aren't trolls could wind up getting banned by a scammer/spammer with multiple "good" accounts.
Knowing this is coming they would definitely begin to groom new shill accounts for just that purpose.
Sad but true.
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sorry but that's a stupid analogy.
It's more about banning someone from your house who comes there everyday to shit in your living room. And he's not related to you. And not your friend. What would you do with someone like that? clean up the shit every day?
You have just summed up how I feel everyday. Thank you. Seriously.
No more cleaning shit please! :)
~Digi
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How about a report Troll feature? 3 folks report troll, it makes a troll report for us mods. We looks him up go through the post, if he's found to be a troll his account is locked, avi changed to "forum troll", situation over.
I want this feature.
~Digi
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How about a report Troll feature? 3 folks report troll, it makes a troll report for us mods. We looks him up go through the post, if he's found to be a troll his account is locked, avi changed to "forum troll", situation over.
I want this feature.
~Digi
Hell yes if this could be done it would be great!
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sorry but that's a stupid analogy.
It's more about banning someone from your house who comes there everyday to shit in your living room. And he's not related to you. And not your friend. What would you do with someone like that? clean up the shit every day?
You have just summed up how I feel everyday. Thank you. Seriously.
No more cleaning shit please! :)
How about a report Troll feature? 3 folks report troll, it makes a troll report for us mods. We looks him up go through the post, if he's found to be a troll his account is locked, avi changed to "forum troll", situation over.
I want this feature.
lazy fuck ... if you dont want to perform the duties of a mod, then resign.
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Right cause our sworn duty is the shit cleaners ;)
:P Spend most my time reorganizing the forums topic, helping users, and taking care of other sections of the site. Ungrateful fuck :)
~Digi
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Ungrateful for what? You doing your job? Thanks?
It makes absolutely no extra work for you to simply let people hash out their own issues.
Now if they are posting specifically for the purpose of trying to bring down SR by making patently false claims of busts going down without any evidence, fine. But other than that its none of your business what we talk about or the language we use. That means there is absolutely no extra work for you. Unless you're just an anal nosey fuck who cant mind his own business.
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And do we have a track record of censoring? Nope.
Did I let RRSecurity(or whatever the fuck his name is/was) look like an idiot? Yea. Didn't ban him till he degraded into calling people names and pointless trashing threads. Last person I banned? His previous account.
And before that? Hmmm... no one for several weeks. :P
But then, I guess people trying to make feature to address this issue are lazy / nosey fucks. Oh right...
The only thing that feels like extra work are the people resorting to telling people to resign for posting a bit of humor.
Do I censor post, edit language, or are you pulling egregious shit out of your ass to make my job more fun?
Last I checked, I haven't complained about this shit other than the ABOVE post, in oh... the year I have been doing this? Well, geee then I better not post something someone doesn't like. They might get nosy and tell me to resign. :P
~Digi
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maybe we should have a list of approved speech you could supply us to stay within your guidelines of not being a troll or spammer.
yawn.
this is a straw man argument.
you argue against a point I never made.
It's not about what I like, I can't even give karma to someone.
it appears to me you just want to bitch for the sake of it but okay I'll explain it to you once more:
1. this forum is an important part of SR because it allows for more sophisticated and interactive feedback than the SR site.
2. one can get a more or less accurate picture of the reliability of a seller and the quality of his product by reading it.
3. this picture can be distorted by people with a lot of time and a lot of posts purposefully spreading false information and creating mistrust by calling scam all the time.
4. this atmosphere of mistrust is dangerous because it makes people overly skeptical and they cry scam if their package is 2 days late or a seller does not reply to PMs every day.
5. in all this chitter and chatter it's impossible to get accurate feedback about a seller anymore.
My suggestion is just that. A suggestion. If you find this so offensive at least argue against my position not some made-up fantasy of me wanting to become the SR Forum dictator.
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How about a report Troll feature? 3 folks report troll, it makes a troll report for us mods. We looks him up go through the post, if he's found to be a troll his account is locked, avi changed to "forum troll", situation over.
I want this feature.
~Digi
Please? Pretty please?
lazy fuck ... if you dont want to perform the duties of a mod, then resign.
Troll harder. People MIGHT take you seriously. Probably not, but maybe. Defending trolls and assholes whilst trying to make yourself look like the good guy isn't working for you. Neither is insulting anyone who doesn't like trolls or assholes.
Which leads me to this statement, you sir are both a troll, and an asshole.
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Right ... my opinion differs and some do not like my protected free speech, so I am a troll and an asshole.
I really should be banned.
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Right ... my opinion differs and some do not like my protected free speech, so I am a troll and an asshole.
I really should be banned.
Using the guise of 'free speech' is really quite the pathetic argument. There's a difference in saying 'I don't like this idea.' and 'I fucking hate this idea. You're all communist fucks who are lazy and just want to bring down the people.' fucking hippie. No, I like hippies, you're just annoying.
You're a troll because you have done nothing in this thread but cause dissent and annoyance. Along with insulting anyone who disagrees with you. Which is, well, everyone.
You're an asshole for thinking that because it's a public forum people should be able to say whatever they want. Whether it be scam, lie, or any manner of negative trolling.
Now, I'm done derailing this thread. My apologies OP, I think an autoban or 'Troll report' would really help the forums and they're both great ideas.
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Right ... my opinion differs and some do not like my protected free speech, so I am a troll and an asshole.
I really should be banned.
Using the guise of 'free speech' is really quite the pathetic argument. There's a difference in saying 'I don't like this idea.' and 'I fucking hate this idea. You're all communist fucks who are lazy and just want to bring down the people.' fucking hippie. No, I like hippies, you're just annoying.
You're a troll because you have done nothing in this thread but cause dissent and annoyance. Along with insulting anyone who disagrees with you. Which is, well, everyone.
You're an asshole for thinking that because it's a public forum people should be able to say whatever they want. Whether it be scam, lie, or any manner of negative trolling.
Now, I'm done derailing this thread. My apologies OP, I think an autoban or 'Troll report' would really help the forums and they're both great ideas.
So your idea of free speech is only the speech you do not find offensive.
Got it.
You should run for political office.
They could use another duped minion to craft or vote on more draconian legislation.
Sorry to offend your fragile sensibilities. NOT
I completely agree I have dissent, am annoying, and insulting to worthless fucking morons who want to ban people they find offensive.
I agree with banning people who's sole intent is to bring down SR through unsubstantiated claims of LE and busts. Thats all I agree with concerning this topic.
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I agree with banning people who's sole intent is to bring down SR through unsubstantiated claims of LE and busts. Thats all I agree with concerning this topic.
If you read what other people wrote instead of just exploding in our face you would realize that THIS is exactly the point of my suggestion.
I agree that in the OP I might have explained this idea a bit flippantly however I have since clarified this (for example in my last post).
Even if you stopped to think about my original suggestion for just a second you'd see that noone gets to -30 karma for being JUST an asshole.
Look at you: +1/-2
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I agree with banning people who's sole intent is to bring down SR through unsubstantiated claims of LE and busts. Thats all I agree with concerning this topic.
If you read what other people wrote instead of just exploding in our face you would realize that THIS is exactly the point of my suggestion.
I agree that in the OP I might have explained this idea a bit flippantly however I have since clarified this (for example in my last post).
Even if you stopped to think about my original suggestion for just a second you'd see that noone gets to -30 karma for being JUST an asshole.
Look at you: +1/-2
if it was all about you, and only you, your reply would make sense, but it is not, and does not.
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So you want autoban for people someone dislikes. I wish I had that. I have a mother in law, father in law, sister in law, and quite a few cousins I'd like banned from my house too, but it aint happening.
Banning people because you disagree with them or dislike them is the stupidest fucking thing you morons every came up with or agreed with.
+1000
Not to mention the fact that it only encourages losers with a lot of free time to make multiple accounts. Imagine getting banned by some suckass on disability and child support money because they have 10 accounts negging your karma.
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So you want autoban for people someone dislikes. I wish I had that. I have a mother in law, father in law, sister in law, and quite a few cousins I'd like banned from my house too, but it aint happening.
Banning people because you disagree with them or dislike them is the stupidest fucking thing you morons every came up with or agreed with.
+1000
Not to mention the fact that it only encourages losers with a lot of free time to make multiple accounts. Imagine getting banned by some suckass on disability and child support money because they have 10 accounts negging your karma.
Yeah especially if one vendor wanted to get another vendor banned from the forums. Yeah i really think the auto ban is a bad idea.
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Not to mention the fact that it only encourages losers with a lot of free time to make multiple accounts. Imagine getting banned by some suckass on disability and child support money because they have 10 accounts negging your karma.
Yeah especially if one vendor wanted to get another vendor banned from the forums. Yeah i really think the auto ban is a bad idea.
so much misinformation.
newbies cannot give karma. you cannot create a lot of accounts to give someone bad karma. What you are saying does not make sense at all.
nobody ever suggested censoring. It's about preventing massively destructive behavior by "losers with a lot of free time". EXACTLY what you claim to fear.
If you would take your time to read what I actually suggested instead of reading SR_Seller's grossly misrepresented caricature of it this would have been clear.
but reading is exhausting. i know.
I give up. To be honest it was just a suggestion to get rid of the FB_Security guy ... or however he was called. It appears he was banned now anyway so I don't care anymore.
If someone however is interested in implementing this suggestion I will gladly help with the PHP if needed.
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Not to mention the fact that it only encourages losers with a lot of free time to make multiple accounts. Imagine getting banned by some suckass on disability and child support money because they have 10 accounts negging your karma.
Yeah especially if one vendor wanted to get another vendor banned from the forums. Yeah i really think the auto ban is a bad idea.
so much misinformation.
newbies cannot give karma. you cannot create a lot of accounts to give someone bad karma. What you are saying does not make sense at all.
nobody ever suggested censoring. It's about preventing massively destructive behavior by "losers with a lot of free time". EXACTLY what you claim to fear.
If you would take your time to read what I actually suggested instead of reading SR_Seller's grossly misrepresented caricature of it this would have been clear.
but reading is exhausting. i know.
I give up. To be honest it was just a suggestion to get rid of the FB_Security guy ... or however he was called. It appears he was banned now anyway so I don't care anymore.
If someone however is interested in implementing this suggestion I will gladly help with the PHP if needed.
Wow you made me feel like a dumbass. Duh, why didn't i think of the fact new accounts can't give karma lol. Wow... good point bro and i should of read more thoroughly. I apologize for not doing so.
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No, because then it makes the ability for collective punishment from a community that is completely open to manipulation. Bad idea.
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I think that why we changed the idea on page two. Leave it to the mods, rather than everyone.
~Digi
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I think that why we changed the idea on page two. Leave it to the mods, rather than everyone.
~Digi
Ladies and gentlemen. I would like to introduce: Common Sense.
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If karma is going to have any sort of impact on a users account like that, it would only be fair to change the way karma is done now and do away with anonymous karma'ing. When you give neg karma, that should be visible that you did it. Because as it is now, it means nothing. Its just something people do because it's anonymous and they can get at someone they dont like. If you had to stand behind giving out negative opinions of fellow members, even if just by your name being attached to it, it would mean more to me. But as it is now, it's not even something I look at. I couldn't tell you my karma score, for either positive or negative, for $1000 right now unless I looked. No way you could restrict a members usage of the board based on some totally anonymous shit like that, it would be ripe for abuse and be totally unfair.
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As long as the moderators are rational about it I have no problems with it, but if they stick their faces in peoples threads who are in the middle of or are trying to work through an argument or dispute, then it might be abusive.
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oh and how about BTC prize if you hit over 1000 + karma ;P
OVER 9000!!!!
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I think the giving or taking of karma should be more open. I'm no troll and already I have negative karma. I've no idea why :'(