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Discussion => Silk Road discussion => Topic started by: intecta on September 11, 2011, 06:26 pm
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As a new SR member and buyer, it's obvious there are a lot of good people here. My first buying experience was a very good one. Kudos to everyone who keeps it that way.
My question is this: Suppose a seller becomes aware, through a comment in a private message for example, that a buyer has a problem with addiction. Do you as a seller feel obligated not to sell to that particular buyer? Or, since we're all adults here (hopefully), do you feel it's the buyer's problem and not your place to make judgements.
It's like the bartender cutting someone off...although there's a liability component for the bar owner in that case.
This is really a question for the sellers, but I'd like to hear opinions from anyone.
Thanks for all the good information here and for SR in general.
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if your selling opiates or cocaine, addicts are the bulk of your customers
dabblers in the stuff will soon come around and be addicted
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As a new SR member and buyer, it's obvious there are a lot of good people here. My first buying experience was a very good one. Kudos to everyone who keeps it that way.
My question is this: Suppose a seller becomes aware, through a comment in a private message for example, that a buyer has a problem with addiction. Do you as a seller feel obligated not to sell to that particular buyer? Or, since we're all adults here (hopefully), do you feel it's the buyer's problem and not your place to make judgements.
It's like the bartender cutting someone off...although there's a liability component for the bar owner in that case.
This is really a question for the sellers, but I'd like to hear opinions from anyone.
Thanks for all the good information here and for SR in general.
I think you bring up a fair ethical point here. Most casino's and gambling establishments are required by law to have self exclusion programs for problem gamblers.
There could be a feature introduced in the future which enables a buyer to "self exclude" themselves for a period of 3 months or however long their rehab program lasts. However, in my opinion this would not stop any dedicated addict to just start a new buyers account or run down to their street corner.
People with addictions will ALWAYS find a way to find their next fix.
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business perspective addicts are your best friend and SR is the greatest invention of putting safety between them both, I see no problems if your shits bomb and your doing a good service your helping in a different way but helping none the less
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I know your dilemma, these candies are like hippy crack ;)
for the unfortunate few for whom this is not recreation it's a local problem and hopefully they can find support. if your product is safe (purity) your doing keeping them off the streets where they can be taken advantage of.
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Most of my products are used medicinally so I'm not that worried. However that is a great question, if I was selling something of an addictive nature I would have to ask though as I think of it - it's a persons own personal choice their consumption habits.
Peace,
DigitalAlch
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Surely one must take responsibility ones own actions. Yeah we should be looking out for each other but restricting product to someone you suspect of being hooked is taking things a bit too far.
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Addicted buyers generate profits, addicted junkie buyers generate buyer scammers.
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I think it depends on each individual. Some dealers just see dollar signs while others see customers who are people...
imho I could never help or contribute to throwing someones life away. I have seen drugs tear up enough lives, I would never want anybody to suffer for the sake of a drug. that is ridiculous!
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that's why I'm no meth cook...
I decided for myself which products I will sell and which not.
A customer can buy any of these, but nothing else from me.
Though I agree it's ones own choice, I don't agree with the reasons people consume H and such and on another note, I just can't really live with the fact I may have shed families apart etc.
tough question.
much love
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if your selling opiates or cocaine, addicts are the bulk of your customers
dabblers in the stuff will soon come around and be addicted
I personally have been using opiates recreationally for years (pharms not H). I limit myself to a couple times a month give or take due to the expense , addiction potential, job, etc. I am definitely not naive and I know not everyone has the personality to do this but i would not consider myself an addict and have friends that are able to be weekend warriers so to speak. I have also seen some friends sucumb to some serious addictions. I also used to do cocaine recreationally (not my thing anymore) and it definitely was never an addiction. I think that is kind of a blanket statement and I am sure there are a lot of casual users such as myself on SR. No offense at all I completely get what you are saying and have seen it numerous times but I don't think sellers should worry all buyers will become raging addicts. Though as many point out it is better for business :)
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I personally have been using opiates recreationally for years (pharms not H). I limit myself to a couple times a month give or take due to the expense , addiction potential, job, etc. I am definitely not naive and I know not everyone has the personality to do this but i would not consider myself an addict and have friends that are able to be weekend warriers so to speak. I have also seen some friends sucumb to some serious addictions. I also used to do cocaine recreationally (not my thing anymore) and it definitely was never an addiction. I think that is kind of a blanket statement and I am sure there are a lot of casual users such as myself on SR. No offense at all I completely get what you are saying and have seen it numerous times but I don't think sellers should worry all buyers will become raging addicts. Though as many point out it is better for business :)
addiction is measured on an individual moral compass.
and on what humans need for survival, not desires.
the opiate that is contained in the pharma-script weakens you immune system. the acetaminophen will do damage to your liver.
the acetaminophen factor helps me to keep away from them.
so on the subject of selling poison, we might ask: how/why do you sell it to people, Breweries?
how/why do you sell it to people, Marlboro?
etc., etc.,
if the use becomes too much for your health, try to cut the use down.
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addiction is measured on an individual moral compass.
and on what humans need for survival, not desires.
the opiate that is contained in the pharma-script weakens you immune system. the acetaminophen will do damage to your liver.
the acetaminophen factor helps me to keep away from them.
so on the subject of selling poison, we might ask: how/why do you sell it to people, Breweries?
how/why do you sell it to people, Marlboro?
etc., etc.,
if the use becomes too much for your health, try to cut the use down.
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addiction is measured on an individual moral compass.
and on what humans need for survival, not desires.
Soooo true. Oh and i stick to pharms without the liver killing additives :) I agree though there are many legal substances that do just as much damage. I agree everything in moderation...though that may not be possible for everyone.
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The good of the many outweigh the good of the few.
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ill quote one of my favorite movies that kinda fits here
"You cant have a conscience in the pimp game"
GATORS BITCHES BETTER BE USING JIMMYS!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Just my .02. But my desire for opiates, which have been my DOC followed by benzos for many years has actually declined rapidly since I found this site. Still do them occasionally but with nowhere near the frequency.
Moving on over to the non-physically addictive stuff.
Like to take vacations without stressing withdrawal.
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The good of the many outweigh the good of the few.
Depends who the "few" are ;)
To the original poster, I think it's a very good question... but sadly one which -whichever- answer will change nothing.
It's all about to the individual person's morality. I have a serious hard time understanding how anyone who has "morality" could sell meth, for example (or heroin or crack). Unless they have no other alternative to eat. Having no other choice, for me, excuses/explains "anything". But of course and anyway, as long as it doesn't affect someone I love, I wouldn't care less about that "anything"..
In my opinion, it's shouldn't be to the seller to restrict its sales. His "job" besides selling could be about explaining/informing the best/safest practices, etc, but not more... otherwise he is out of business :)
I pray God to save the ones I love from a serious addiction, but I stand "ready" to act in case should my loved ones falls into an evil spiral... And I think that's what people need, a friend or lover who can "help".
Very philosophical!
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The good of the many outweigh the good of the few.
Depends who the "few" are ;)
To the original poster, I think it's a very good question... but sadly one which -whichever- answer will change nothing.
It's all about to the individual person's morality. I have a serious hard time understanding how anyone who has "morality" could sell meth, for example (or heroin or crack). Unless they have no other alternative to eat. Having no other choice, for me, excuses/explains "anything". But of course and anyway, as long as it doesn't affect someone I love, I wouldn't care less about that "anything"..
In my opinion, it's shouldn't be to the seller to restrict its sales. His "job" besides selling could be about explaining/informing the best/safest practices, etc, but not more... otherwise he is out of business :)
I pray God to save the ones I love from a serious addiction, but I stand "ready" to act in case should my loved ones falls into an evil spiral... And I think that's what people need, a friend or lover who can "help".
Very philosophical!
Very well put my friend. 8)