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Market => Product requests => Topic started by: chestercopperpot on August 05, 2011, 10:35 pm
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Hello everyone. I wanted to create this thread for others to comment on the lsd that they have bought off of SR and from who they have gotten it from. I was asked by a buddy who purchased so called "lsd" off of SR to try out 2 hits and then come and create a review after all was said and done. First a little about myself. I am almost 40 years old. First lsd hit I ever took was in 1989. Throughout the 90s I took lsd countless times in almost all types of forms. Microdots, blotter, gel and liquid. The only one I never had a chance to try was pure lsd powder or crystal whatever form it comes in like that. I would guesstimate that I have done lsd at least 75 times if not more from 89-2008 so I am very familiar with what lsd is and how it feels. With all that being said. The 2 hits that were given to me by my buddy, he said he purchased from overseas from a guy called mitanox and they were 120ug each is what he claims. As I put both hits under my tongue I immediately knew this was NOT lsd by the way it tasted. It has this chemically horrible taste that pretty much numbed my mouth and throat. Lsd has NO TASTE AT ALL PERIOD. Now I have went through a couple of threads of peoples reviews on different lsd they have tried and it was said that this chemical taste is something they spray onto the blotter to keep it preserved or someone was saying it was even hairspray. Well im calling this straight bullcrap and a lie. Maybe that is what they have been told by their supplier, but from every single hit of acid I have ever taken, I have never once had that horrible taste in my mouth as I did with these 2 hits and I have tried straight lsd out the bottle. Straight out the bottle it will have a slight tingle on your tongue but that is pretty much it. No other taste at all. I also want to say when you start to feel the lsd kicking in, I would always have this tingle in the back of my neck like in my spine and that is when I knew I was about to start tripping. So going back to the trip. When this stuff started hitting me, I first could feel it in my body. It makes your muscles tense up then followed by visuals. It gets worse and worse as time goes on. I started feeling extremely hot and then I would get cold off and on. I also got really nauseous where I almost wanted to vomit. It did had this speedy feel to the trip which I have never had before to. Now I have had some pretty hardcore body trips from taking 3-5 hits of acid before, but even then, its nothing like whatever is in this stuff. It reminded me almost as eating a massive amount of mushrooms with the body trip that some strains produce. There really was no mental aspect of the trip either. It was as if I was almost normal in my mind but just suffering from the intense body ache and visuals the entire time. The hot and cold did go away after I would guess about hour 4 or so but the speedy feel stayed the entire time. The whole trip lasted about 10 hours before I was able to go to sleep which then I could still feel it in my body. So to sum everything up. I am positive whatever this stuff is, it is indeed NOT LSD. I just wanted to warn others out there to be careful when buying so called lsd off of SR b/c you really have no idea what people are putting onto blotter nowadays. Just b/c its on blotter does not mean its lsd. Just remember, lsd has NO TASTE AT ALL and anyone who tells you that horrible chemical taste is b/c of "hairspray" or something "sprayed" onto the blotter is telling you a lie in order to sell their product. I wish I knew what it really is just so I know what I took. I know its somekind of hallucinogen and thats all I know.
I would love to hear what others think about the lsd that they have taken and who they have received it from. I also ask that you include a little info about yourself. Like how many times you have taken lsd, from what years have you taken lsd. Did it have this horrible chemical taste to it or did it have no taste at all? That way we can know that if your are new to lsd or a veteran to it and we can then see what vendors are selling this kind of stuff..If I never took lsd before and took this stuff, I probably would think this is what lsd feels like and its not. Lsd is a clean type of trip that may give you a body trip but it also gives you this mental aspect thats really hard to explain to someone who has never done it before. The visual aspect of my trip was very similar to what lsd is though. I would have enjoyed it if not for the sick feeling and the hot/cold feeling. It was pretty uncomfortable for me. Looking forward to hearing your reports and maybe trying to pinpoint who has real lsd and not this other stuff being passed off as lsd.
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Hey, chester. I tried 2 hits of 25i-NBOMe a few days ago, and it seems like that is what your friend got. As it it measured in ug like acid is, it can be put on blotter paper and passed off as lsd quite easily. Chemical taste, numbed my mouth a bit, really intense and trippy visuals but i could more or less hold conversations with sober people, and near the end of it my muscles were tensing up so badly that it hurt.
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Thank you fable. I have never heard of that before. I tried reading some reports at erowid, but it is some kind of new thing I guess. Not many reports at all. Its a shame many people will believe this is lsd. I know if I tried something like this my first time. I would not do it again. It was intense, but not really worth the pain. Lsd is so much more cleaner and spiritual and its a shame some people may never get to experience that. I personally noticed the lsd in my area kinda vanished and was hard to get around 2005 on. I have gotten some blotter before in 2007 that was suppose to be lsd but was not. It didnt have any taste to it, but 3 hits gave me this stomach pain the entire time. That was not fun but the visuals were almost worth it. They were so much more intense than lsd visuals, almost like tripping on shrooms. We never figured out what that was either.
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This is a really good thread.
In my honest opinion this is very likely a situation that could be happening. There is no telling what some person might be putting on blotters and calling it LSD. With So many LSD vendors out there they could be handing off what they thought was LSD to buyers and it be another hallucinogen.
I'm very interested in the feedback on the products sold on Silk Road, with experienced LSD veterans and the current LSD offered on Silk Road.
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You are correct in that LSD dosage is microscopic it is tasteless. You are INCORRECT in saying that blotter should be tasteless. I myself have dropped hundreds of hits over the years and they ALL have a bit of a taste. It's the ink in the blotter and the solvent used to lay the acid on it... even using ethanol to apply the crystal to the blotter will leave a vague chemical taste and not dry away one hundred percent cleanly.
While it could be NBOMe, it's not likely, that's actually far rarer and about the same price as LSD, so there's not necessarily any advantage in passing off NBOMe as LSD.
Just my 2 cents.
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Also, LSD DOES have a slight stimulant effect too.... expect NOT to sleep within 10 hours of ingesting it, and any sleep withing about 24 hrs is liable to be fitful. As I have formerly stated, I've genuinely done hundreds of hits and this has been the case EVERY time. It actually sounds like what you're reporting not to be LSD, probably is, and you just aren't that familiar with the side effects. I'm not trying to be insulting, but you're mentioning many things that users are well aware of in high doses.
Could be you got some NBOMe, doubt it though. Sounds like you've looked on forums and tried to match your symptoms to what people think a trip is supposed to be. Not all trips are fun dude, it's all about set and setting. If your mood, company, location, etc aren't right, trips have a tendency to go bad. Particularly if you took a higher doseage than you're used too. Now a clear head and good company (often find none is better) and a good trip spot, it can be a religious experience.....
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Yes I know lsd has a slight stimulate effect to it Bill. This stuff was not a slight stimulate at all. It was a major stimulate and it is not because I ate two 120ug hits. It reminded me of almost as if I had done some speed or coke. I have done over 240ug of lsd plenty of times and have never felt like that im sorry. Anything over 200ug and I should have been tripping, the mind aspect of the trip pretty intensely and there was nothing like that at all. That is another reason why I know this is not lsd besides the other part of being hot / cold for a couple of hours. I have also never experienced that on huge doses of lsd ever. Now I don't know what kind of blotter you have been taking. Everytime I have taken blotter, it all has pretty much no taste at all. Just a slight tingle like I stated before. Even with blotter that has art on it. There was nothing wrong with my settings either and for the most part, most of my trips have been alone. I did not experience a "bad trip" with this stuff like you say. I have experienced "bad trips" a couple of times before, but that was only because of eating 4+ hits of blotter and the mind trip aspect had me so far gone, I could not even form a sentence. All I could do was just lay there in that panic / fear of what I call a bad trip. I don't know if it is that nbome stuff or not. All I can say is this is not lsd and I am positive of that. My buddy still has one left and we are wondering if there is some place to send it in so it could get lab tested such as that site that you can send in ecstasy pills and they will tell you what is in the pills. Do you think that site can tell if this stuff is lsd? I would be happy to give them the $40 or so that they ask just to know what this stuff is.
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Just found out they can do test but they require $120. I will see if my buddy would like to go in half b/c $120 is a little to much for me as I could use that to buy a 1/4 of pot instead ha ha.
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While it could be NBOMe, it's not likely, that's actually far rarer and about the same price as LSD, so there's not necessarily any advantage in passing off NBOMe as LSD.
The 25i-NBOMe prices here are a lot cheaper than the acid prices. Eg, 50 hits for $140 vs 25 hits for $250 ::)
Just going by current prices, I know there is cheaper acid on here periodically
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I heard that some manufactures put with weak acid small amounts of atropin to mimic , better to say some kind of semi LSD. They have opinion that better to feel something, no matter is a good or bad, then nothing. But I am not sure is that true.
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Yes, like later poster said, whenever somebody has a bad trip always is some story about putting (soaking blotter in) and some shrooms extracts or atropin, but that is only stories.
Anyhow, GC/MS confirm LSD but not strenth of it. So tiny amount can be confirmed but among aditional substances what are not LSD proves nothing then you already knew.
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It would be good to see some reviews of freedompeople & b0618475c287e7c as they are the only guys selling worldwide atm
I second this query.
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Just found out they can do test but they require $120. I will see if my buddy would like to go in half b/c $120 is a little to much for me as I could use that to buy a 1/4 of pot instead ha ha.
Would love to see the results of the test.
I have alot of past experience with LSD in the past and know the exact tingle your guys speak of and as far as taste it's a very quick short taste like a one or two seconds if you have the taste buds for it.
I've handled many sheets and vials of LSD thru out the 90's and earlier 2000's used to be tight with the "kids".
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@mseller: Atropine, like from the nightshade family of plants? It's a strong deliterant, and it is a VERY unpleasant trip- I don't thinking adding it to LSD would do anything remotely positive, not to mention you'd need roughly 10,000ug to get a person to the "tripping balls" stage
This discussion has come up a billion times because people tend to keep asking the same question and making the same accusation in this case. Mitanox was selling the buddhas/ganesh from the EU, right? It IS LSD. It's been confirmed through GC/MS, and is famous and well known as it's all over the EU. You Are indeed tasting the blotter- NOT the LSD. What that kind of experience sounds like is either too high of a dose for you, or too low (I had two tabs from someone locally and it was VERY weak, and I thought that I had been given DOx or NBOME or something as well- I hadn't been, but it Had been very weak). Keep in mind this blotter is much stronger than what you'll most likely find in the US, even if you've been buying 100ug tabs in the US (although 120ug is a far stretch for what he's selling). I took 8 tabs, and each of my friends took two to four tabs, and we all had a fantastic time and it was the same LSD joy we all knew and loved. YMMV, but it's always been lsd :)
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Hi All, I'm new to LSD so to avoid all the hassle I decided to buy from bloomingcolor seeing as he appears to be THE most trusted vendor (no offence to anyone else out there of course.) Now reading up on the topic bitter blotters is the giveaway that something might not be right, but it could also be a non issue. Anyway, I tried a hit once I had a chance and it definitely had a bitter taste to it, not right away but after maybe a few seconds. I took a chance anyway just to see what'd happen and maybe use the experience to get a better idea.
To sumarise, the trip came on within an hour, probably noticed slight effects after about 20 minutes. The visuals weren't what I expected, things were 'morphing' but no trippy colours and nothing when I shut my eyes (this could be just my naivety though.) As for the mental aspect, I was definitely thinking differently but again not what I expected, just a slightly different perspective on everything, and some slight paranoia when encountering too many people at once, but nothing I couldn't think my way through what I considered to be normally. Again, could be just my non experience here that had me a little worried. After about 6 or 7 hours I felt as if the mental element was slowing down but I still had trouble conversing as I normally would (was probably trying a little hard to seem normal though...) Visuals were still there after 12 hours if I stared at something for a little while, and around then I decided to sleep which I didn't have much trouble doing (which I'd think points more to being LSD than not, especially when compared to DOx which I understand to be a longer trip)
The blotters I got were suppossed to be 180 ug (not Avatars though as bloomingcolor has changed what he's selling in June) and for the most part I would believe this to be the case based on his reputation.
So sorry for the long post, but if anyone has any advice or information to add or can point me in the right direction that'd be most appreciated. I'm not too worries if it was something else, but I'd like to get an idea before I experiment any further and find out I've got some nasty RC effects on my hands.
Cheers guys.
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@Spunkaroo:
Thank you very much for reviewing bloomingcolor's blotter. Based on what you wrote I would say that you've got LSD there...Everyone reacts differently so maybe you just need more for a full trip. Or maybe your setting was not optimal to experience the trip to the fullest
But LSD comes up in about an hour, that is typically..and last for about 8 hours. The taste could be the ink (or maybe some impurities?).
Honestly I doubt that they are 180mics...cause that seems to good to be true.
PEACE
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Can somebody answer me. My last trip was long long time ago. I heard (again) story about having bad effects if opiate addicted person use lsd. Any info about that?
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@Popo
Thanks for that. As I was re-reading my last post it sort of looked more and more like it probably was LSD, but being new to it with nothing to compare to it's good to get another opinion.
Edit: You're probably right about the strength as well, so might be worth trying two. Will see what happens and may post a full review separately when I have more info.
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I want too throw in my two cents -
Judging LSD by visuals is kinda a newbie mistake (Not saying anyone is guilty of this just throwing it out there) I know great acid cause I take some and am in the kinda super happy, calm, meditative state - blissful with the universe. Lots of times I have had astounding visuals - sometimes hardly none.
I have also had DOC/DOX, NBOME - and just pounting out they are easier to get your hands on then good acid. And yea - they taste way different. Different then ink.
Peace,
DigitaLAlch
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Thanks for the input Digital. I am probably guilty of that to be honest, not what I'm looking for in the experience, it's the mental element I'm after, but when you read Erowid you get an idea in your head that probably doesn't help. Catch 22 though as going in with absolutely no idea what to expect seems like a newbie mistake as well.
@mseller - Not ignoring, just fully ready to admit my newbie status and don't want to put any wrong points in when it comes to opiates (not my cup of tea personally.)
And as a side point I'd like to point out how much more useful these forums are then some of the regular drug forums you see. Interesting note that.
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I also got prob the same stuff this guy has but one hit barely did anything to me at all and it had that nasty taste to it also. It was the 120ug ones to. I also got the muscle tensing and felt sick and even threw up from the little effect that I did get. I dont think it is lsd either and I have some left that I will never take b/c I didnt enjoy it at all. Hey digital. You sound like you know what your talking about and are familiar with real acid. If you would like. I can send you 2 hits that I have if you would like to test it out and let me know what you think b/c I dont think its lsd myself. I seriously doubt the blotter ink taste that disgusting. It taste like some chemical to me but ive never taken doc, dom, nbome or any other research chem besides 2cb so I really dont know what it could be or what those trips are like. Let me know if you would like and ill send you them to try b/c ill just end up throwing these away anyway.
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I have lots of WoW lsd from the good old usa. I am going to list 10 strip samples soon. probably will be around $65-70.
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I have lots of WoW lsd from the good old usa. I am going to list 10 strip samples soon. probably will be around $65-70.
That'd be great. That would make you the cheapest on SR right now and from the homeland. I approve. 8)
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@twolips - Just checking what countries you ship to? I'd be interested if you ship to Aus.
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this is how you know it is real:
onset 1 hour (or no more than 1hour,10-20minutes for a single hit)
plateau 3 hours (where you feel the most high), then it feels just about like a stable high until the end
fade out 10-12 hours (suddenly after 12 hours you feel sane/not high anymore and no comedown effects :)
(on -good lsd-, at least 1 hit - if you only take ½ the onset can be later), if you take more than 1 blotter over a night, the 10-12 hours will probably be from the last hit, to my experience. If the dose is small like 50ug , it likely won't be 10-12 hours.
you should start getting really high after no more than a bit over 1 hour (head floating feeling, arms feeling light,likely feel it in the back of your head/neck (I felt it there everytime)), also it suppressed my appettite (couldn't eat anything either of the times I did it for 12hours+)
if you only get little visuals it might be vortexes in the wall, or in the carpet, swirling around and perhaps some green colors, you should get some sound distortion too and your taste gets weird sometimes tasting stuff. Visuals are likely both dependant on setting and dose + mindset (so as someone mentions they might be a bit absent on some trips and very vivid in others).
if you only take one tab (under the tongue), it should never last over 10-12 hours from last one (unless you dose off the scale), if so, then it is very likely an RC (many rcs are 16-24hours)..
so.. take one 1/4" blotter (smallest size), rcs usually fit onto larger blotters, if you get really high from 1/get floating feeling and see green colors, then it is likely lsd.
wrt sleeping, I definitely couldn't sleep any of the times I tried..
I am still a newbie, but I feel confident that if it fits that interval and didn't taste too bad it is lsd (google images lsd this is how you know from erowid) :)
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I have lots of WoW lsd from the good old usa. I am going to list 10 strip samples soon. probably will be around $65-70.
That'd be great. That would make you the cheapest on SR right now and from the homeland. I approve. 8)
+1
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I have lots of WoW lsd from the good old usa. I am going to list 10 strip samples soon. probably will be around $65-70.
Please do this soon, I would really like to buy some as well.
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Greetings...
My story is very similar to yours. I am in my mid 30's and it has been close to 10-15 years since i tripped. When I was turned on to SR I decided to give it a ago. I have tried several types, but do not remember the particular vendors.
However here is a very brief review of my experience so far:
100ug Shiva's. I had these a couple times. Took 5 hits over the course of the night. Very light trip, but enjoyable.
200ug Orange Buddhas. Took 6 over the course of the night. These were way more potent (reviews i read say at least 2-3x's stronger from what was currently around. These had very strong geometric visuals, especially with eyes closed. The only thing that i did not enjoy was a slight paranoid feeling. Like creepy, someone is in the room brushing against and watching me. This was bearable though and I thoroughly enjoyed watching the house and trees breathe with me.
Last week I decided to give the 25i-NBOMe. I've had no experience with any of the 2c's variations. I ordered 10 hits. I took the first one around 12 and started to feel a little giggly and light headed. I was a bit tired and dosed off for an hour. When i awoke i noticed slight visuals, but more sensitivity to light that patterns. Through the next 6 hours I took around 7 all together. I never got much more out of them. I was disappointed at the overall experience.
Anyway, I plan on sticking to LSD from here on out. Hope my 2 cents helps. I will post new experiences.
DSB
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Sorry, correction to my last post. They were not 200ug Orange Buddhas, they were Mayan Calendars. Best i've had so far!
DSB
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Sounds a lot like DO(x) to me
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When someone post things like this they should tell us what they called, which vendor, and what the blotter looks like.
So people know what not to buy. This info don't mean nothing w/o it.
Thanks.
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Sorry mate, just realized that I can find the vendors i've used in my account settings:
Vendor, product, description...
Namaste - 150ug Alex Grey LSD Blotters - They were small and dark purple'ish i believe.
Mitanox - 120ug Alex Grey LSD Blotters - Looked the same as the others.
- These were fun, but not particularly strong to me.
Redgreen - 200ug Mayan Calender LSD Blotters - these were slightly larger, more of a cardboard, properly preferated and various colors (orange, green, etc).
- Ate 6 over the course of the night, but they were strong, Proper visuals.
Enboom - 25i-NBOMe 500ug Blotter - these were plain white generic blotters - Personally these had no/very little effect on me.
All of the vendors above were great to deal with. Namaste and Mitanox came from overseas to the US so they took a bit longer, no more than expected though. Regreen and Enboom ship from with in the Northern US. They were extremely fast!
I have my eye on the Orange Buddhas currently, but looking for someone within the US. I have had a problem getting MDMA from overseas and many of the vendors are warning about their troubles.
Hope this helps. All these vendors are great and I would recomend. My favorite was the Mayan Calendars. I have also played with a few shroom vendors, but nothing exciting to report from them.
DSB
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Acid goes fast on SR (US to US) so it is hard to do a side by side comparison. I plan to get some lucy very soon so I'm glad I saw this thread. Who has the consistently best 'cid on SR? (So I know what to look for) Thanks...
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Glad to see this thread is doing good. When I get paid at the end of this month, I will be sending this last one off to get it tested to see what it really is. The curiosity has been bugging me. I just wish it wasn't so expensive to do. I hope they are pretty quick with the testing also.
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dosed edibles (not weed) to allow for more stealth transport, particularly after they've been received.