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Title: Is this normal? - First Time Buyer
Post by: MainSupplier on August 07, 2013, 05:11 pm
So after being a lurker on SR for awhile i took initiative and placed my first order a month and a half ago, Now keep in mind i'm aware of the risks and know that packages may be intercepted from time to time if the buyer isn't using proper stealth which is why i ordered from 3 different Top Sellers because i knew that the odds of all 3 orders being lost/intercepted were slim i mean atleast one of those sellers had to use proper stealth.

After waiting eagerly an month and a half for a few sample orders which varied from seeds to bud, I still haven't received an single thing.
I immediately contacted the sellers and asked what is going on and to my freaking luck one of them claimed he mislabeled the order, another claimed that the order was never sent out and the last said he would reship because apparently he got the wrong address.

Now i may be a noob within this community but if there is one thing i did prior to ordering was doing my homework, finding out which vendors where the best, reviewing feedback, product quality and stealth. I find it hard to believe that 3 freaking orders don't get shipped out in an timely manner, i mean not to be rude here but is this normal? I don't even know what to say, 1.5 months of waiting for nothing.. :(

Is this an ongoing thing within vendors? because my first time has been ruined by this experience.
Title: Re: Is this normal? - First Time Buyer
Post by: purplepanth on August 07, 2013, 05:25 pm
In my experience with some of the weed sellers they ship a little slower then others, but sounds like you just had some crappy luck.

I would not have waited so long for any of them to arrive either tho, I read the vendor policy and then usually they say if you dont have your order in x days to let them know..
Lots of buyers have double and triple digits number of successful transactions, I would just chalk it up to experience and order from someone else..
Title: Re: Is this normal? - First Time Buyer
Post by: TheIllusiveDeus on August 07, 2013, 05:32 pm
yea honestly if it was 3 different sellers then you just had bad fucking luck man. May I ask what vendors it was?
Title: Re: Is this normal? - First Time Buyer
Post by: obkkoa on August 07, 2013, 05:38 pm
I have bought like 20-30 times and only one package never arrived. It was a sample of MDMA pills so nothing to cry about anyway.
Really bad luck yours.
Title: Re: Is this normal? - First Time Buyer
Post by: goblin on August 07, 2013, 06:01 pm
... apparently he got the wrong address.
He got the wrong address??!!! How could he? Did you pgp your info to him? Was it your fault he had the wrong info? Did you try to find out?
Title: Re: Is this normal? - First Time Buyer
Post by: ananas_xpress on August 07, 2013, 06:09 pm
name and shame them man,
If they are legit top sellers they should have no problem and most people here will be able to tell you if they are for real or not
Title: Re: Is this normal? - First Time Buyer
Post by: silvia777000 on August 07, 2013, 07:15 pm
It depends of your country and where the seller ships from, It tooks a long time when the items are shipped overseas.

but you have a little bad luck.
Title: Re: Is this normal? - First Time Buyer
Post by: FearTheReaper on August 07, 2013, 08:34 pm
It's far from normal.  It's even beyond abnormal.  My friend, you just used your one and only Lotto Chance -- should have bought a ticket instead.
Title: Re: Is this normal? - First Time Buyer
Post by: MainSupplier on August 07, 2013, 09:37 pm
... apparently he got the wrong address.
He got the wrong address??!!! How could he? Did you pgp your info to him? Was it your fault he had the wrong info? Did you try to find out?

Yeah but i followed everything to the T since i didn't have PGP on my computer at the time i privnote him the proper address EXACTLY in all caps as asked, So i know for an fact that i didn't misspell anything after-all i've been living here long enough to know my address. Anyways i'm talking with some of them now hopefully we can work something out, Thank you guys for the support i will not give up on SR that easy.
Title: Re: Is this normal? - First Time Buyer
Post by: ananas_xpress on August 07, 2013, 09:59 pm
That right there is why you should never use privinote I'm afraid
Along with the fact even if you could go to resolution center it's your word against the vendor since all communication is lost
Title: Re: Is this normal? - First Time Buyer
Post by: Thekla1 on August 07, 2013, 11:55 pm
Never heard of a case like yours. For your own sake learn PGP.

Take care.
Title: Re: Is this normal? - First Time Buyer
Post by: RxKing on August 08, 2013, 01:01 am
That right there is why you should never use privinote I'm afraid
Along with the fact even if you could go to resolution center it's your word against the vendor since all communication is lost

This is simply NOT TRUE.

All this person did is put their address in privnote..then put the link in the address section on the order page. The vendor then opens that privnote and writes the address on the label. Then closes the privnote. And once they mark the order "in transit", the link that appears in the address box is gone(along with the whole order)...just like if  pgp waas used or the address was just written in there....

In no way is all the communication gone! The exact same communication that would be there without privnote is there still.

But the facts are if the OP didn't FE...then he does not lose a thing! And this being 6 weeks old, he should have got a refund 3 weeks ago!

I,like everyone in here......have no idea why the OP didn't receive any of his packages.....and we will never know. But he gave us very little information to go

And CLEARLY he is not that bright, I mean he asked us if it is "normal" to not get a package. Not once..but 3 times! Yea idiot, that is totally normal. No one in here gets packages..they just place orders.
And "yes" this is an ongoing thing.
Title: Re: Is this normal? - First Time Buyer
Post by: cyberscour on August 08, 2013, 02:34 am
I'm pretty sure this is selective scamming. I've seen a lot of vendors with littered scam reports under GREAT reputation.

I've recieved all my domestic orders, and all my international orders - your case is rare.
Title: Re: Is this normal? - First Time Buyer
Post by: thepotroast on August 08, 2013, 03:00 am
It's not normal.  I've never had a package go missing and I've made between 25-100 orders on SR in the past 2 years or less.  To residences, PO Boxes and drops.  Never had anything not show up.

Learn to PGP, learn to SR.
Title: Re: Is this normal? - First Time Buyer
Post by: ananas_xpress on August 08, 2013, 09:23 am

This is simply NOT TRUE.

All this person did is put their address in privnote..then put the link in the address section on the order page. The vendor then opens that privnote and writes the address on the label. Then closes the privnote. And once they mark the order "in transit", the link that appears in the address box is gone(along with the whole order)...just like if  pgp waas used or the address was just written in there....

In no way is all the communication gone! The exact same communication that would be there without privnote is there still.


And "yes" this is an ongoing thing.

I've read your posts about PGP elsewhere so I understand you don't want to back down but there is no way privinote is better or even comparable to PGP.
Since you KNOW everything because you are so good and cant back it up I can say I KNOW people are much MORE likely to keep privinote addresses than PGP.

Why....Well if I told you "have a look at  Scarlett Johansson's awesome breasts, she trusts you but you can only see them once" Admit it you are going to be more likely to take a picture/screenshot or at least a good mental image JUST IN CASE you ever need to see that again.
Now if I say here is the same picture but it's encrypted in such a way only you can ever see it, she wants you to delete it just in case but you can be 100% sure as long as only you know your password nobody else will be ever able to see it.

I know which method I'll be sending my dick pics over!!

Vendors encouraging privinote sets a bad precedent for clients to use it for all communication (I have seen vendors say they use privinote for everything thus leading customers to think doing the same is protecting them) If you are fine with your messages going through a third party considering what just happened Tormail and  FH I think you cant be taking security nearly as seriously as you say you are.
You would have to agree one point of failure is better than two so you accept and unnecessary risk when there is a viable and more secure alternative.

If privinote and disposable communications become the trend (as in an easier and just as secure alternative to PGP you would seem to encourage) whats to stop buyers leaving feedback threats via this method without fear of repercussion, SR protects you, PGP protects you, Privinote will get you F'd in the A eventually 

Personally I'd rather ride SR bareback and send my address through one server in cleartext than trust in a third party

I like you man, I really do but there is a reason everyone here gives you shit about it and that's because some day you are going to have to realize the facts are against you.
Title: Re: Is this normal? - First Time Buyer
Post by: RxKing on August 08, 2013, 11:13 am
I've read your posts about PGP elsewhere so I understand you don't want to back down but there is no way privinote is better or even comparable to PGP.
Since you KNOW everything because you are so good and cant back it up I can say I KNOW people are much MORE likely to keep privinote addresses than PGP.

Why....Well if I told you "have a look at  Scarlett Johansson's awesome breasts, she trusts you but you can only see them once" Admit it you are going to be more likely to take a picture/screenshot or at least a good mental image JUST IN CASE you ever need to see that again.
Now if I say here is the same picture but it's encrypted in such a way only you can ever see it, she wants you to delete it just in case but you can be 100% sure as long as only you know your password nobody else will be ever able to see it.

I know which method I'll be sending my dick pics over!!

Vendors encouraging privinote sets a bad precedent for clients to use it for all communication (I have seen vendors say they use privinote for everything thus leading customers to think doing the same is protecting them) If you are fine with your messages going through a third party considering what just happened Tormail and  FH I think you cant be taking security nearly as seriously as you say you are.
You would have to agree one point of failure is better than two so you accept and unnecessary risk when there is a viable and more secure alternative.

If privinote and disposable communications become the trend (as in an easier and just as secure alternative to PGP you would seem to encourage) whats to stop buyers leaving feedback threats via this method without fear of repercussion, SR protects you, PGP protects you, Privinote will get you F'd in the A eventually 

Personally I'd rather ride SR bareback and send my address through one server in cleartext than trust in a third party

I like you man, I really do but there is a reason everyone here gives you shit about it and that's because some day you are going to have to realize the facts are against you.

First I will address your last paragraph.

I do not take what you said personally. Nor what anyone else says. I get that you have an opinion and even if I think it is wrong, you think it is right. BUT when I post in here, I only post from my point of view. I am not going to say in every single post I make that it is not personal BUT...so I know that many post I write come off arrogant or as if I can't be wrong.LOL.  First I find it really funny that a few  people get pissed about that... so I actually play it up. Why wouldn't I??? I love that people get pissed at shit talking. Nothing better to me then when someone say's "do you have to be so arrogant?"

But for you to say "everyone gives me shit" is just totally inaccurate. And actually the FACTS are totally with me. Not against me. Since you seem to care, go read the thread again. See what I say and then see what is said after me. If you did that, you would clearly see that very few disagree.. Also I have over 600 customers and I have been here for 1.5 years and I have never had anything but 5/5....so CLEARLY I am winning. I was told by these idiots when I became a vendor that if I did not use pgp I would not get customers.


Now I can't believe that I am addressing this...but I have to. You actually said that because you can only visit privnote 1 time that it means someone that uses it is more likely to keep information????? You ...actually believing this ...is really insane. Your analogy with Scarlett Johannson's breast is totally lost on me. As I think she is a midget and I think she is fat. Also I think her tits suck. BUT I understand what you were trying to say (just use Jessica Alba)...and I totally disagree with the analogy and think you even thinking that is off the charts crazy. I do not need to save anything or look at address 2 times. I look at it, I address the label and that's it. I do not even understand how you think someone that uses privnote vs pgp would be more likely to keep an address or not. And I do not even think that is an issue.



Now you say this---

"If you are fine with your messages going through a third party considering what just happened Tormail and  FH I think you cant be taking security nearly as seriously as you say you are"

What messaging are you talking about??? This whole sentence is incorrect. I do not use privnote at all ...first off. Nor did I use tormail. I tell buyers they can use it for their address if they must but that they are totally fine just sending it through SR. And I stand by that. But the biggest issue I have with what you typed is not only how out of context you take what I say, but how you say MY security is somehow compromised!!

My security is NEVER at issue. EVER. PGP or no PGP, RxKing's security is never the issue. This is only about the buyer not wanting their address on SR or not. Every buyer that uses PGP is going to have there address out there. And that is my problem with pgp and all the security talk, it is just that...talk. PGP offers NO SECURITY AT ALL!!

But since you seem to know so much.......will you please tell me how PGP will protect me? I would love to hear it. But since the answer is....it can't.....go ahead and tell me how pgp will protect the buyer. I would love to hear that. And don't use " If SR gets compromised" .....I want to hear the reason pgp is so great. I will be waiting for your answer.

Also my BIG ISSUE is all the paranoia for NO REASON. Every time the littlest thing happens, they come out of the wood works about how SR is compromised...and of course they are wrong every time! And then there are idiots that say if you are not a little paranoid then you are not secure...that is just crazy thinking. I do not buy gold either. I do not store water or food. I have guns. If the world ends, I will take what I need from some loser that prepped. Or even better I hope I die. I do not want to survive on canned food and bottle water.



Title: Re: Is this normal? - First Time Buyer
Post by: MainSupplier on August 08, 2013, 12:22 pm
That right there is why you should never use privinote I'm afraid
Along with the fact even if you could go to resolution center it's your word against the vendor since all communication is lost

This is simply NOT TRUE.

All this person did is put their address in privnote..then put the link in the address section on the order page. The vendor then opens that privnote and writes the address on the label. Then closes the privnote. And once they mark the order "in transit", the link that appears in the address box is gone(along with the whole order)...just like if  pgp waas used or the address was just written in there....

In no way is all the communication gone! The exact same communication that would be there without privnote is there still.

But the facts are if the OP didn't FE...then he does not lose a thing! And this being 6 weeks old, he should have got a refund 3 weeks ago!

I,like everyone in here......have no idea why the OP didn't receive any of his packages.....and we will never know. But he gave us very little information to go

And CLEARLY he is not that bright, I mean he asked us if it is "normal" to not get a package. Not once..but 3 times! Yea idiot, that is totally normal. No one in here gets packages..they just place orders.
And "yes" this is an ongoing thing.

First off i don't know where you get off coming on my thread and insulting me, I asked if its something thats been occurring as off lately being that there was an whole security breach with FH and maybe some vendors could've been paranoid etc. even though the order was placed 1.5 months ago maybe it could've been late shipment etc. which is why i needed to know if it happens often so i could know exactly when to order.  Also where do you make the presumption that "im an idiot" i wasn't implying that people don't receive there packages rather than i wanted to know if there has been an increase in lost/delayed packages lately. IDIOT!
Title: Re: Is this normal? - First Time Buyer
Post by: ananas_xpress on August 08, 2013, 01:01 pm

First I will address your last paragraph.

I do not take what you said personally. Nor what anyone else says. I get that you have an opinion and even if I think it is wrong, you think it is right. BUT when I post in here, I only post from my point of view. I am not going to say in every single post I make that it is not personal BUT...so I know that many post I write come off arrogant or as if I can't be wrong.LOL.  First I find it really funny that a few  people get pissed about that... so I actually play it up. Why wouldn't I??? I love that people get pissed at shit talking. Nothing better to me then when someone say's "do you have to be so arrogant?"

But for you to say "everyone gives me shit" is just totally inaccurate. And actually the FACTS are totally with me. Not against me. Since you seem to care, go read the thread again. See what I say and then see what is said after me. If you did that, you would clearly see that very few disagree.. Also I have over 600 customers and I have been here for 1.5 years and I have never had anything but 5/5....so CLEARLY I am winning. I was told by these idiots when I became a vendor that if I did not use pgp I would not get customers.


Now I can't believe that I am addressing this...but I have to. You actually said that because you can only visit privnote 1 time that it means someone that uses it is more likely to keep information????? You ...actually believing this ...is really insane. Your analogy with Scarlett Johannson's breast is totally lost on me. As I think she is a midget and I think she is fat. Also I think her tits suck. BUT I understand what you were trying to say (just use Jessica Alba)...and I totally disagree with the analogy and think you even thinking that is off the charts crazy. I do not need to save anything or look at address 2 times. I look at it, I address the label and that's it. I do not even understand how you think someone that uses privnote vs pgp would be more likely to keep an address or not. And I do not even think that is an issue.

Ok we are both good vendors who play by the rules and don't keep addresses but lets face it vendors holding addresses is more commonplace than everyone lets on. You only have to look at the BlueGiraffe thread to see the extent of this and he only owned up because he got caught big time with the tormail breech. How many others do you think do it, I would guess 25% but that's just my opinion

I would hope if a vendor is going to hold your address they might at least have to decency to hold the encrypted pgp text and open it only if necessary which is better than the alternative where if it was sent through plaintext or pgp chances are more that they only save it plaintext.

I see pgp as a risk reducer,  You see it as a waste of time or too complicated to learn, Not sure which but that's your choice and you proved those people wrong now..Congrats



Now you say this---

"If you are fine with your messages going through a third party considering what just happened Tormail and  FH I think you cant be taking security nearly as seriously as you say you are"

What messaging are you talking about??? This whole sentence is incorrect. I do not use privnote at all ...first off. Nor did I use tormail. I tell buyers they can use it for their address if they must but that they are totally fine just sending it through SR. And I stand by that. But the biggest issue I have with what you typed is not only how out of context you take what I say, but how you say MY security is somehow compromised!!

My security is NEVER at issue. EVER. PGP or no PGP, RxKing's security is never the issue. This is only about the buyer not wanting their address on SR or not. Every buyer that uses PGP is going to have there address out there. And that is my problem with pgp and all the security talk, it is just that...talk. PGP offers NO SECURITY AT ALL!!

But since you seem to know so much.......will you please tell me how PGP will protect me? I would love to hear it. But since the answer is....it can't.....go ahead and tell me how pgp will protect the buyer. I would love to hear that. And don't use " If SR gets compromised" .....I want to hear the reason pgp is so great. I will be waiting for your answer.

Also my BIG ISSUE is all the paranoia for NO REASON. Every time the littlest thing happens, they come out of the wood works about how SR is compromised...and of course they are wrong every time! And then there are idiots that say if you are not a little paranoid then you are not secure...that is just crazy thinking. I do not buy gold either. I do not store water or food. I have guns. If the world ends, I will take what I need from some loser that prepped. Or even better I hope I die. I do not want to survive on canned food and bottle water.

I'm slightly wrong here, Of course it's of no greater risk to you to use privinote but where we differ is I view my security as being just as important as that that of my customers and the wider SR community where for you security means covering your own back.
But thing is if 100 buyers  all get busted through privinote, media jumps on the bandwagon that SR is no longer safe then you might be safe but your business is gone.

It's just a personal thing, I want to look out for the welfare of my customers and wish them all the best as they reached out first to put trust in me. It gives me great job satisfaction to know I encourage safety and teach my buyers best practice, If privinote was compromised their details may also be compromised. If they send me their address through PGP then it's just between the two of us that's how it's safer.

We come from totally different sides of the spectrum on this, personal opinion again but I see you are from the states so I guess you grew up with the usual American ideas of individualism, personal responsibility and so on, At least it's evident that you only care to look out for yourself and don't worry about the welfare of others by your willingness to steal food from peppers in case of emergency (I think they are crazy too bty)
On the other hand I grow up in the Scandinavian welfare state model, where community values are more important over the individual or "communists" as your fellow Americans like to put it. I think more about looking out for others around me and good social systems to protect the weak and vulnerable.
Perhaps that is the reason we have prepper nuts in this part of the world because we don't believe in looking out for No.1 all the time.

I will continue to help my customers help themselves, you can continue to look out for yourself. I don't want to argue it's not going to go anywhere and I will leave this here.
Title: Re: Is this normal? - First Time Buyer
Post by: Rocknessie on August 08, 2013, 01:20 pm
It's normal. Nobody on SR ever successfully buys drugs. Ever.

We all pretend we do, of course. But it's all bullshit. We sit around this forum pretending we're getting high when really we're just sending our money to the Nigerian Mafia.
Title: Re: Is this normal? - First Time Buyer
Post by: RxKing on August 08, 2013, 02:02 pm

Ok we are both good vendors who play by the rules and don't keep addresses but lets face it vendors holding addresses is more commonplace than everyone lets on. You only have to look at the BlueGiraffe thread to see the extent of this and he only owned up because he got caught big time with the tormail breech. How many others do you think do it, I would guess 25% but that's just my opinion

I would hope if a vendor is going to hold your address they might at least have to decency to hold the encrypted pgp text and open it only if necessary which is better than the alternative where if it was sent through plaintext or pgp chances are more that they only save it plaintext.

I see pgp as a risk reducer,  You see it as a waste of time or too complicated to learn, Not sure which but that's your choice and you proved those people wrong now..Congrats


I see it as a waste of time...though it only takes 60 seconds....That is how worthless I see it.



I'm slightly wrong here, Of course it's of no greater risk to you to use privinote but where we differ is I view my security as being just as important as that that of my customers and the wider SR community where for you security means covering your own back.
But thing is if 100 buyers  all get busted through privinote, media jumps on the bandwagon that SR is no longer safe then you might be safe but your business is gone.

It's just a personal thing, I want to look out for the welfare of my customers and wish them all the best as they reached out first to put trust in me. It gives me great job satisfaction to know I encourage safety and teach my buyers best practice, If privinote was compromised their details may also be compromised. If they send me their address through PGP then it's just between the two of us that's how it's safer.

We come from totally different sides of the spectrum on this, personal opinion again but I see you are from the states so I guess you grew up with the usual American ideas of individualism, personal responsibility and so on, At least it's evident that you only care to look out for yourself and don't worry about the welfare of others by your willingness to steal food from peppers in case of emergency (I think they are crazy too bty)
On the other hand I grow up in the Scandinavian welfare state model, where community values are more important over the individual or "communists" as your fellow Americans like to put it. I think more about looking out for others around me and good social systems to protect the weak and vulnerable.
Perhaps that is the reason we have prepper nuts in this part of the world because we don't believe in looking out for No.1 all the time.

I will continue to help my customers help themselves, you can continue to look out for yourself. I don't want to argue it's not going to go anywhere and I will leave this here.


I love how you turned this into "an America is selfish" or even better I only care about myself.

Maybe you should have gone with what America is all about...FREEDOM!

I do not force one person to use me. I am straight up..in fact I am the most straight up vendor on the road. I care about my freedom a lot more then my buyers...very true. But I also believe in taking care of yourself. I do not try to push anything on anyone. I have said many a time, if you do not like my rules...then go somewhere else

Also you said we are both good vendors...I totally disagree with that too!!! YOU sell fucking lotteries! That is the stupidest fucking thing a vendor on here can do. PERIOD! What fucking drug dealer has lotteries???(shitty ones) And you have been here a fucking MONTH!!!! And you do not even sell drugs!!! You are like a guy that plays basketball at the YMCA and I am like Lebron/Jordan/Kobe in one, and you are trying to tell me " were both good basketball players"!

YOU are not a "good vendor". YOU DO NOT EVEN SELL DRUGS! And there is ZERO reason for you to ever use pgp. I knew I should look up your stats before I ever commented to you. Had I done that, I would have never responded as you do not know shit.

YOU CLEARLY ARE CRAZY! You actually believe you are a good vendor and we are alike???????????

And your feedback is 97% ......you should focus more on your customers. I have 100 and have never had anything less then 5/5 in over 16 months!!!  Those are facts.
Title: Re: Is this normal? - First Time Buyer
Post by: ananas_xpress on August 08, 2013, 03:52 pm

I love how you turned this into "an America is selfish" or even better I only care about myself.

Maybe you should have gone with what America is all about...FREEDOM!

I do not force one person to use me. I am straight up..in fact I am the most straight up vendor on the road. I care about my freedom a lot more then my buyers...very true. But I also believe in taking care of yourself. I do not try to push anything on anyone. I have said many a time, if you do not like my rules...then go somewhere else

Also you said we are both good vendors...I totally disagree with that too!!! YOU sell fucking lotteries! That is the stupidest fucking thing a vendor on here can do. PERIOD! What fucking drug dealer has lotteries???(shitty ones) And you have been here a fucking MONTH!!!! And you do not even sell drugs!!! You are like a guy that plays basketball at the YMCA and I am like Lebron/Jordan/Kobe in one, and you are trying to tell me " were both good basketball players"!

YOU are not a "good vendor". YOU DO NOT EVEN SELL DRUGS! And there is ZERO reason for you to ever use pgp. I knew I should look up your stats before I ever commented to you. Had I done that, I would have never responded as you do not know shit.

YOU CLEARLY ARE CRAZY! You actually believe you are a good vendor and we are alike???????????

And your feedback is 97% ......you should focus more on your customers. I have 100 and have never had anything less then 5/5 in over 16 months!!!  Those are facts.

I love how you turn me shit talking and being arrogant into a personal attack.
But you're joking about the "freedom" thing now too? English isn't my first language so sometimes sarcasm gets lost on me, But from what I understand there is about as much freedom in the US as there is in my left nut and although I haven't had the pleasure to visit myself I'm sure looking forward to the security pat down when I go through security dressed as Sacha Cohen from Bruno xD

Thing is dude I may or may not run several vendor accounts but if I did I would like to keep things separate, Looks better to lead LE and the other fools to think I "sell fucking lotteries! That is the stupidest fucking thing a vendor on here can do. PERIOD! What fucking drug dealer has lotteries???"
For any other accounts where I may sell higher grade stuff I wouldn't even risk associating my writing style with an online identity that sells drugs ;) Perhaps work that thought into your security considering the data mining ability's of the NSA as it was only a few years ago when I was working in academia that we had amazing software that could analyze writing styles and after 5,000 words could pinpoint that persons work among 1000's of others with just a 100 word sample. Technology can catch up and who knows what the government has.
I think it's much better for people not to boast and brag or am I picking up on another American trait here xD

About feedback, I allow sales from all people and fuck me are newbies stupid, They think this is ebay where they can give somebody 3/5 because they didn't win a damm lottery. You should be thanking me for all the work I have to do educating these people about SR feedback etiquette before they come buying form you.
Title: Re: Is this normal? - First Time Buyer
Post by: colorblack on August 08, 2013, 06:02 pm
I have guns. If the world ends, I will take what I need from some loser that prepped.

+1.
Title: Re: Is this normal? - First Time Buyer
Post by: DanDanTheIceCreamMan on August 08, 2013, 07:29 pm
I have guns. If the world ends, I will take what I need from some loser that prepped.

+1.

I would think the people that prep probably have guns aswell :(
Title: Re: Is this normal? - First Time Buyer
Post by: somewhere27 on August 09, 2013, 02:02 am
I've read your posts about PGP elsewhere so I understand you don't want to back down but there is no way privinote is better or even comparable to PGP.
Since you KNOW everything because you are so good and cant back it up I can say I KNOW people are much MORE likely to keep privinote addresses than PGP.

Why....Well if I told you "have a look at  Scarlett Johansson's awesome breasts, she trusts you but you can only see them once" Admit it you are going to be more likely to take a picture/screenshot or at least a good mental image JUST IN CASE you ever need to see that again.
Now if I say here is the same picture but it's encrypted in such a way only you can ever see it, she wants you to delete it just in case but you can be 100% sure as long as only you know your password nobody else will be ever able to see it.

I know which method I'll be sending my dick pics over!!

Vendors encouraging privinote sets a bad precedent for clients to use it for all communication (I have seen vendors say they use privinote for everything thus leading customers to think doing the same is protecting them) If you are fine with your messages going through a third party considering what just happened Tormail and  FH I think you cant be taking security nearly as seriously as you say you are.
You would have to agree one point of failure is better than two so you accept and unnecessary risk when there is a viable and more secure alternative.

If privinote and disposable communications become the trend (as in an easier and just as secure alternative to PGP you would seem to encourage) whats to stop buyers leaving feedback threats via this method without fear of repercussion, SR protects you, PGP protects you, Privinote will get you F'd in the A eventually 

Personally I'd rather ride SR bareback and send my address through one server in cleartext than trust in a third party

I like you man, I really do but there is a reason everyone here gives you shit about it and that's because some day you are going to have to realize the facts are against you.

First I will address your last paragraph.

I do not take what you said personally. Nor what anyone else says. I get that you have an opinion and even if I think it is wrong, you think it is right. BUT when I post in here, I only post from my point of view. I am not going to say in every single post I make that it is not personal BUT...so I know that many post I write come off arrogant or as if I can't be wrong.LOL.  First I find it really funny that a few  people get pissed about that... so I actually play it up. Why wouldn't I??? I love that people get pissed at shit talking. Nothing better to me then when someone say's "do you have to be so arrogant?"

But for you to say "everyone gives me shit" is just totally inaccurate. And actually the FACTS are totally with me. Not against me. Since you seem to care, go read the thread again. See what I say and then see what is said after me. If you did that, you would clearly see that very few disagree.. Also I have over 600 customers and I have been here for 1.5 years and I have never had anything but 5/5....so CLEARLY I am winning. I was told by these idiots when I became a vendor that if I did not use pgp I would not get customers.


Now I can't believe that I am addressing this...but I have to. You actually said that because you can only visit privnote 1 time that it means someone that uses it is more likely to keep information????? You ...actually believing this ...is really insane. Your analogy with Scarlett Johannson's breast is totally lost on me. As I think she is a midget and I think she is fat. Also I think her tits suck. BUT I understand what you were trying to say (just use Jessica Alba)...and I totally disagree with the analogy and think you even thinking that is off the charts crazy. I do not need to save anything or look at address 2 times. I look at it, I address the label and that's it. I do not even understand how you think someone that uses privnote vs pgp would be more likely to keep an address or not. And I do not even think that is an issue.



Now you say this---

"If you are fine with your messages going through a third party considering what just happened Tormail and  FH I think you cant be taking security nearly as seriously as you say you are"

What messaging are you talking about??? This whole sentence is incorrect. I do not use privnote at all ...first off. Nor did I use tormail. I tell buyers they can use it for their address if they must but that they are totally fine just sending it through SR. And I stand by that. But the biggest issue I have with what you typed is not only how out of context you take what I say, but how you say MY security is somehow compromised!!

My security is NEVER at issue. EVER. PGP or no PGP, RxKing's security is never the issue. This is only about the buyer not wanting their address on SR or not. Every buyer that uses PGP is going to have there address out there. And that is my problem with pgp and all the security talk, it is just that...talk. PGP offers NO SECURITY AT ALL!!

But since you seem to know so much.......will you please tell me how PGP will protect me? I would love to hear it. But since the answer is....it can't.....go ahead and tell me how pgp will protect the buyer. I would love to hear that. And don't use " If SR gets compromised" .....I want to hear the reason pgp is so great. I will be waiting for your answer.

Also my BIG ISSUE is all the paranoia for NO REASON. Every time the littlest thing happens, they come out of the wood works about how SR is compromised...and of course they are wrong every time! And then there are idiots that say if you are not a little paranoid then you are not secure...that is just crazy thinking. I do not buy gold either. I do not store water or food. I have guns. If the world ends, I will take what I need from some loser that prepped. Or even better I hope I die. I do not want to survive on canned food and bottle water.




I FUCKING LOVE THIS GUY.  I disagree, i hate even using privnote!!  Sometimes if the vendor doesnt know me, ect, ill entertain the idea but its annoying as shit. PGP hahahahaha just stop
Title: Re: Is this normal? - First Time Buyer
Post by: Totalpay on August 09, 2013, 04:35 am
pgp is a must...
Title: Re: Is this normal? - First Time Buyer
Post by: AbuNazir on August 09, 2013, 05:44 am
I've noticed a few vendors that have no issue screwing with new people because they think they can hide behind reputation. Others are just lazy and expect you to wait until they can bother to ship your order, whenever that may be. I was able to narrow down who I use to a few people that ship fast and everything gets through. I pay them fast as well and there are no issues. One good rule is if a vendor has 15 pages of "rules", "stipulations", or "random fine print" on their page you should avoid them. They put that there so they can justify whatever complaints you make against them as "you didn't read their rules". This applies to the US only for me, no idea where you live. I've made a decent amount of orders and only one didn't arrive timely. And it was one of the above vendors with more rules than the bible.
Title: Re: Is this normal? - First Time Buyer
Post by: Rocknessie on August 09, 2013, 02:24 pm
I hear ya. I was tempted by a UK vendor with good prices but all kinds of rules, anti-n00b, pro-FE, etc. in the end I've avoided them and have had nothing but amazing success stories so far on the road.

Go with your gut - not your wallet.
Title: Re: Is this normal? - First Time Buyer
Post by: RxKing on August 09, 2013, 02:47 pm
Unless it is a weekend or Holiday, No vendor EVER should take more then 1 day to ship an item. Meaning they should ALWAYS ship the item the next business day at the latest.

The exception to this is the vendors that say on their page ... they only ship on certain days.

The worst thing about Silk road is WAITING! And the worst wait is when you place an order and you are just waiting to see " In transit". And that is also one of the best moments....when you see that switch on your order page to in transit.

The vendors that mark a package in transit...but in fact have not even packaged it yet and it is not an honest mistake, should have their vending privileges suspended for 14 days minimum. And fined the price of the order. That would stop this bullshit. Other then scammers, there is nothing worse to me then reading about a vendor that marks the package in transit..but has not done shit..Then to make it even worse...they do not return messages to explain(lie) about that bullshit.
Title: Re: Is this normal? - First Time Buyer
Post by: somewhere27 on August 11, 2013, 10:44 am
"PGP IS A MUST"   Apparently not because i think i encrypted 5 orders when I first joined.

 RXKing,  there is a mailman who started a thread.  you will like it, check it out, obviously all the weird paranoid crap will continue but he straight up says "No ive never seen any drug busts or anything like that, nobody gives a shit"  except people who have to use privnote to send a message.  lolol, if you are ordering a $3,000.00 order overseas I could at least understand being nervous.  But who does everyone think is hacked into their computer investigating their $150.00 xanax purchase.  hahahahahaha  the only people i could think of are the DEA which obviously they arent, or ur local police, which they most likely really dont feel like staying past their shift to stake you out.  Its not about being lazy,  why not take it a step further and for every order you place drive 100 miles to the public library and have it shipped to an open field in the next state, then wait to pick it up only after minimum of 2 months.  its just overkill, and nonsense and so is half the crap people talk about doing.  Open a mailbox at UPS store with a fake i.d. and then have a friend pick it up with a stolen key duplicate.  if you are that nervous sell on ebay, (but still of course only privnote addresses)