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Title: do you believe that the ownership of silk road has recently changed hands?
Post by: smokecrack on July 09, 2013, 05:53 pm
please reply with your opinions and thoughts on the matter.
Title: Re: do you believe that the ownership of silk road has recently changed hands?
Post by: BlueGiraffe on July 09, 2013, 06:11 pm
Don't have an opinion on whether it has changed ownership or not, but I do know that the recent email to Crazy Eights from "DPR" (http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=181513.msg1321080#msg1321080) does not read like the DPR I am familiar with...

BG

Title: Re: do you believe that the ownership of silk road has recently changed hands?
Post by: yokes101 on July 09, 2013, 06:29 pm
Not really up to speed on the fee issues but I guess there has been some changes around here.

That being said how in all holy hell would someone go about selling a site like silk road?
Title: Re: do you believe that the ownership of silk road has recently changed hands?
Post by: RaFaeL5 on July 09, 2013, 06:31 pm
I agree with BG.
Off course, I'm just a "buyer" so I don't follow everything like you guys do - but to me the system is important (I believe in it!) and seeing something happening that could hurt the system makes me sad...

I'm gone start to collect all your mail-addresses (.onion off course) - just in case something happens here... those of you who know me will know why.
Title: Re: do you believe that the ownership of silk road has recently changed hands?
Post by: goblin on July 09, 2013, 06:36 pm
That being said how in all holy hell would someone go about selling a site like silk road?
It sure wouldn't be on craigslist!
Title: Re: do you believe that the ownership of silk road has recently changed hands?
Post by: BlackIris on July 09, 2013, 07:16 pm
When I first heard this sort of "feeling" around I discarded it as the usual paranoia or either personal dislike for a certain individual (I think most can understand to whom I'm referring to), but I must admit that I'm now starting myself to having doubts about this. I'm still uncertain on the reality so I am just keeping by myself in silence watching things unfold, but some recent moves are not so encouraging, I must admit.

I could either understand DPR as being an office or title and not necessarily an unique individual (also if interpretation from a movie is not exactly what I would call a proof) but still depending on who is at the lead things can change, and sometimes they can change... dramatically.

Let's just hope this is not the case and this is just an usual case of psychotic thought/facts connections (too much use of DMT can tend to develop that ;) )
Title: Re: do you believe that the ownership of silk road has recently changed hands?
Post by: EzzeeK on July 09, 2013, 08:07 pm
If some of you recall, this happened about a year ago.  DPR's writing style changed and some changes were made to the site.  Also the old forum mods were replaced.  To me it was sudden, but it has worked so far.
Title: Re: do you believe that the ownership of silk road has recently changed hands?
Post by: NorthernStar on July 09, 2013, 08:38 pm
You lot are paranoid....lay off your poison.  He has to change the style to bamboozle the feds, he's awake alright.
Title: Re: do you believe that the ownership of silk road has recently changed hands?
Post by: keldog09 on July 09, 2013, 10:58 pm
SR is worth a lot. I wouldn't be surprised if it's changed hands at least once in the last two years, but that's not necessarily a bad thing. As long as they continue to operate it well. I do think people put wayyyy too much trust in DPR/SR in general though. All this shit is underground so anything's possible.
Title: Re: do you believe that the ownership of silk road has recently changed hands?
Post by: ReD EyE on July 09, 2013, 11:28 pm
SR is worth a lot. I wouldn't be surprised if it's changed hands at least once in the last two years, but that's not necessarily a bad thing. As long as they continue to operate it well. I do think people put wayyyy too much trust in DPR/SR in general though. All this shit is underground so anything's possible.


You seriously think this?. who would they sell to, how much for, considering the 22 millions in sales hype currently estimated per annum and rising.

After spending probably several years building this idea up. then proceeding to implement it, shows this in its self ?, OR is it just plain obvious to me and not others... 
No one does this stuff and hands it over for a quick profit.

I would wager DPR has probably made enough now to keep comfortable or even better, for life. So what money is not every thing, yes it can change things on a materialistic level but that just a one off deal each and every time you spend a penny. This is a labour of love, A challenge greater than climbing Everest.   Period. Long live this path.
Title: Re: do you believe that the ownership of silk road has recently changed hands?
Post by: goblin on July 09, 2013, 11:37 pm
I do think people put wayyyy too much trust in DPR/SR in general though. All this shit is underground so anything's possible.
My thoughts exactly. People have to realize that this is not some lovey dovey Pollyanna-ish Utopia. This is more a guard yourself well, Trust No 1 place.

We are NOT all in this together. Keep that in mind.

goblin
Title: Re: do you believe that the ownership of silk road has recently changed hands?
Post by: RaFaeL5 on July 09, 2013, 11:49 pm
SR is worth a lot. I wouldn't be surprised if it's changed hands at least once in the last two years, but that's not necessarily a bad thing. As long as they continue to operate it well. I do think people put wayyyy too much trust in DPR/SR in general though. All this shit is underground so anything's possible.


You seriously think this?. who would they sell to, how much for, considering the 22 millions in sales hype currently estimated per annum and rising.

After spending probably several years building this idea up. then proceeding to implement it, shows this in its self ?, OR is it just plain obvious to me and not others... 
No one does this stuff and hands it over for a quick profit.

I would wager DPR has probably made enough now to keep comfortable or even better, for life. So what money is not every thing, yes it can change things on a materialistic level but that just a one off deal each and every time you spend a penny. This is a labour of love, A challenge greater than climbing Everest.   Period. Long live this path.

I have to agree that "selling SR" is a bit more complicated than opening an eBay account and putting it up for sale - but then again, once you're smart enough to make this system, you're probably also smart enough to contact the kind of people who would be able/willing to buy it... 22.10.6, that's a nice $ count... I'm pretty sure lots of "groups" would be willing to invest the bling-bling to get the codes & other things...

The question about "why selling" has (probably) a quite easy answer: to get of the stress... If you can sell an anonymous website, while being anonymous, to another anonymous buyer - then you're pretty sure you'll not get caught anymore (1 condition: untraceability of your BTC's!).
I can imagine that someone who's lived with the stress of being DPR for a while would like to get rid of that constant pressure on the nervous system... Yes, he's probably made lots of money since he created the site, but is money everything? No, I'm quite sure that being able to spend the money without looking over your shoulder every second is worth more than the money you can earn...
And, no matter how cool and tough you are - I don't think it's easy to live with that pressure...

So, when you write: "No one does this stuff and hands it over for a quick profit.", I do agree, but I don't think something like SR would be sold for a quick profit... it would rather be sold so that the seller could spend a life-time of easy-going without anyone knowing who he is (and in the meanwhile building up something "legit" with the money he/she/they earned...
Title: Re: do you believe that the ownership of silk road has recently changed hands?
Post by: valakki on July 10, 2013, 12:02 am
I agree with BG.
Off course, I'm just a "buyer" so I don't follow everything like you guys do - but to me the system is important (I believe in it!) and seeing something happening that could hurt the system makes me sad...

I'm gone start to collect all your mail-addresses (.onion off course) - just in case something happens here... those of you who know me will know why.

Good idea. Im gonna do that too.
Title: Re: do you believe that the ownership of silk road has recently changed hands?
Post by: keldog09 on July 10, 2013, 12:39 am
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You seriously think this?. who would they sell to, how much for, considering the 22 millions in sales hype currently estimated per annum and rising.

Why is that so crazy? My view is essentially identical to RaFael5's. I'm not going to guess how one would go about selling something like SR, but I think it's kind of unreasonable to say it's not possible.
Title: Re: do you believe that the ownership of silk road has recently changed hands?
Post by: Jack N Hoff on July 10, 2013, 12:46 am
I would be more inclined to believe that another administrator like Inigo would take the helm as the original DPR went off with his riches and it continued in a cycle much like in The Princess Bride and not that it would actually be sold.

That's my two satoshis.
Title: Re: do you believe that the ownership of silk road has recently changed hands?
Post by: nanpa2001 on July 10, 2013, 01:14 am
I can't comment as to whether SR has been sold or not. However the DPR that has been writing things in the last few days is definitely not the original DPR.
Title: Re: do you believe that the ownership of silk road has recently changed hands?
Post by: goblin on July 10, 2013, 02:53 am
I'm gone start to collect all your mail-addresses (.onion off course) - just in case something happens here... those of you who know me will know why.

Good idea. Im gonna do that too.
It's already been done, by StExo. He established an onion site with all this information on vendors scraped off SR: http://5uvrgtrgtwkkxsgw.onion

goblin
Title: Re: do you believe that the ownership of silk road has recently changed hands?
Post by: Jack N Hoff on July 10, 2013, 02:54 am
I'm gone start to collect all your mail-addresses (.onion off course) - just in case something happens here... those of you who know me will know why.

Good idea. Im gonna do that too.
It's already been done, by StExo. He established an onion site with all this information on vendors scraped off SR: http://5uvrgtrgtwkkxsgw.onion

goblin

He took the backup down like a month ago.
Title: Re: do you believe that the ownership of silk road has recently changed hands?
Post by: AbuNazir on July 10, 2013, 04:26 am
The Pirate Bay has been sold at least once for a significant amount of money, so i don't know why it couldn't happen here. A few other trackers I use have also seen changes in "management". Just how this kind of thing works. Some people make their money and get tired of the risk, some go to jail, some just disappear never to be heard from again (or reincarnated under a new alias at least).

I don't think it's paranoid of people to keep an eye on it either. A change in management can just as easily be the feds catching an admin and getting into their account. You need to stay vigilant.
Title: Re: do you believe that the ownership of silk road has recently changed hands?
Post by: goblin on July 10, 2013, 11:15 am
I'm gone start to collect all your mail-addresses (.onion off course) - just in case something happens here... those of you who know me will know why.

Good idea. Im gonna do that too.
It's already been done, by StExo. He established an onion site with all this information on vendors scraped off SR: http://5uvrgtrgtwkkxsgw.onion

goblin

He took the backup down like a month ago.
It says it's updating, but each time I've looked lately it says that, so you may be right. That's a real shame, cause it's immensely useful.
Title: Re: do you believe that the ownership of silk road has recently changed hands?
Post by: zapatista36 on July 11, 2013, 07:55 am
I tend to agree with Jack - changing the roles so someone else can step up for their turn as DPR is what the idea is all about. The current DPR plays the role so long as needed, then moves on, possibly for good or to a mod's role while DPR mans the helm.  Wesley was the 4th DPR in The Princess Bride, the previous 3 having retired with their riches...
Title: Re: do you believe that the ownership of silk road has recently changed hands?
Post by: heisenberg2.0 on July 11, 2013, 10:39 am
I know what happened, DRP sold the ownership of SR and is now behind Atlantis.  :-X

Cmon it's practically the same site people and if he could pull that off he would have his uber legend status confirmed
Title: Re: do you believe that the ownership of silk road has recently changed hands?
Post by: BreakOnThrough on July 11, 2013, 01:47 pm
I fear that at some point down the line SR will end up in the hands of cartels  (if it isn't already), with the original libertarian idea resigned to history. 

But hey maybe I'm just pessimistic!
Title: Re: do you believe that the ownership of silk road has recently changed hands?
Post by: neo67 on July 11, 2013, 02:32 pm
Why doesn't whoever is running SR come in and confirm or deny these rumours?!?

Put everybody at peace?
Title: Re: do you believe that the ownership of silk road has recently changed hands?
Post by: Jack N Hoff on July 11, 2013, 02:38 pm
Why doesn't whoever is running SR come in and confirm or deny these rumours?!?

Put everybody at peace?

Maybe because it really doesn't matter. :)
Title: Re: do you believe that the ownership of silk road has recently changed hands?
Post by: heisenberg2.0 on July 11, 2013, 02:52 pm
I fear that at some point down the line SR will end up in the hands of cartels  (if it isn't already), with the original libertarian idea resigned to history. 

But hey maybe I'm just pessimistic!

I don't want to be pessimistic but I think you are correct, I mean you only have to look at how any business who builds itself up by sticking it to the man sells out in the end.
When SR started they had a real ideology but these days it's just something they pay lip service to and I think when we look back in a years time  the SR story will read more similar to how Ben & Jerry started out by sticking it Häagen-Dazs but in the end the good morals and ideology are just worth extra $$$ on a valuation when it comes to flipping your company to an existing major player.
Title: Re: do you believe that the ownership of silk road has recently changed hands?
Post by: Romero on July 11, 2013, 03:43 pm
Why doesn't whoever is running SR come in and confirm or deny these rumours?!?

Put everybody at peace?

Because this crazy shit probably infuriates DPR. I would imagine, after reading this thread, DPR has to close his eyes and focus on his breathing to keep from getting extremely upset. People are accustomed to DPR posting in a well-worded, ultra-professional way; and when he tries to interact like a person; people say it's not him (another reason why this hasn't been addressed). To be honest, DPR has addressed this issue by saying people are slinging accusations and saying messed up things. He clearly has a problem with it, but the people who know that apparently don't give a fuck.
Title: Re: do you believe that the ownership of silk road has recently changed hands?
Post by: neo67 on July 11, 2013, 03:45 pm
Why doesn't whoever is running SR come in and confirm or deny these rumours?!?

Put everybody at peace?

Maybe because it really doesn't matter. :)

Maybe/maybe not but it would stop these fucking rumors flying about!
Title: Re: do you believe that the ownership of silk road has recently changed hands?
Post by: simplyanon on July 11, 2013, 05:33 pm
If some of you recall, this happened about a year ago.  DPR's writing style changed and some changes were made to the site.  Also the old forum mods were replaced.  To me it was sudden, but it has worked so far.


This. The road has to evolve as threats do. About a year ago +- a month or so, everything changed really suddenly, DPR mixed up his writing, No Porn showed up on the 'Welcome Page', etc. It's evolution, not a power switch.


Of course I could be totally wrong, so, ya know, whatever.
Title: Re: do you believe that the ownership of silk road has recently changed hands?
Post by: Pharmington Rex on July 11, 2013, 06:15 pm
To become paranoid or speculate about DPR not being DPR when one never ever even knew who, whom, or what DPR is or was from the get go...

...is absurdity at its best.

The Silk Road could be a number of things started by persons truly unknown. We have no proof of anything nor are we able to test anything other than that vendors are able to sell to patrons and patrons are able to buy from vendors. And whatever the Silk Road actually is, that is what matters most currently.
Title: Re: do you believe that the ownership of silk road has recently changed hands?
Post by: jackofspades on July 11, 2013, 06:45 pm
Why doesn't whoever is running SR come in and confirm or deny these rumours?!?

Put everybody at peace?

The less info LE has the better.

"My theory on feds is they're like mushrooms; feed 'em shit and keep 'em in the dark."
Title: Re: do you believe that the ownership of silk road has recently changed hands?
Post by: SOUTHPAW on July 12, 2013, 03:18 am
I tend to agree with Jack - changing the roles so someone else can step up for their turn as DPR is what the idea is all about. The current DPR plays the role so long as needed, then moves on, possibly for good or to a mod's role while DPR mans the helm.  Wesley was the 4th DPR in The Princess Bride, the previous 3 having retired with their riches...

People are easily fooled into believing things are actually more than what they really are. First and foremost this is a business and most do change hands, executives, and managerial staff to suit the growth needs and future or they die or become the past. This one of course has many other things too consider being an illegally based product line. It has been proven time and time again that whenever a single person/entity becomes to large for the powers that be they want their share. Whether it be the cartels, irs, or any of the known and/or yet to be public alphabet mafias, they will get a piece or they will find a way to destroy it and create their own.

My bet, for now, is on it being SCOUT.  :) 
Title: Re: do you believe that the ownership of silk road has recently changed hands?
Post by: gingerballs on July 12, 2013, 07:26 am
Why doesn't whoever is running SR come in and confirm or deny these rumours?!?

Put everybody at peace?

i'm thinking because if you are trying to protect your identity and methods of doing your business, the less info that people know about who you are.. the better. if i were DPR, i would seldomly post with that handle. instead, i'd create a secondary handle and blend in. DPR account would only be for important announcements. and then i'd limit the drugs and whores until i am no longer DPR, so as not to call attention to myself (or slipping up somehow, especially under the influence). after i'm no longer DPR, i'd go ham on the drugs and whores.
Title: Re: do you believe that the ownership of silk road has recently changed hands?
Post by: mrxempire on July 12, 2013, 07:46 am
hmm this is ineresting, never thought about that. I always assumed DPR was always the same person, and always would be. I am starting to get the same uneasy feeling you guys are. I hope it is just paranoia. I would hope that if the original DPR were to pass the helm, he would be wise enough to pick a successor just as passionate to the cause as he is
Title: Re: do you believe that the ownership of silk road has recently changed hands?
Post by: Smashmouth on July 12, 2013, 02:47 pm
My bet, for now, is on it being SCOUT.  :)

That would be sweet.

 Scout is one of the few individuals I've felt compelled to take the time to talk to privately. A good individual imho.
Title: Re: do you believe that the ownership of silk road has recently changed hands?
Post by: kneotac on July 12, 2013, 03:54 pm
I'm inclined to think DPR may not necessarily be one person, but several people who each make-up the entity that is DPR.
Title: Re: do you believe that the ownership of silk road has recently changed hands?
Post by: astor on July 12, 2013, 04:06 pm
Maybe because it really doesn't matter. :)

Maybe/maybe not but it would stop these fucking rumors flying about!

LOL, no it wouldn't.
Title: Re: do you believe that the ownership of silk road has recently changed hands?
Post by: silo on July 12, 2013, 09:29 pm
"after i'm no longer DPR, i'd go ham on the drugs and whores."

+1
Title: Re: do you believe that the ownership of silk road has recently changed hands?
Post by: neo67 on July 12, 2013, 09:38 pm
Can see what people are saying about not confirming if  ownership has changed hands, 'who the fuck is running this site?' is the question that  must be, and must stay 'on the lips' of FEA.

Yeah, so basically FUCK EM!! :) power to the people i say!!

peace.
Title: Re: do you believe that the ownership of silk road has recently changed hands?
Post by: SealTeam6 on July 12, 2013, 10:00 pm
I can't comment as to whether SR has been sold or not. However the DPR that has been writing things in the last few days is definitely not the original DPR.

I can still never understand why you guys make claims that are impossible to substantiate.  Someone said before about DPR switching up writing styles to remain anon.  Most sensible thing I have heard in this thread. 

Title: Re: do you believe that the ownership of silk road has recently changed hands?
Post by: SealTeam6 on July 12, 2013, 10:07 pm
I know what happened, DRP sold the ownership of SR and is now behind Atlantis.  :-X

Cmon it's practically the same site people and if he could pull that off he would have his uber legend status confirmed


This would be an awesome feat.
Title: Re: do you believe that the ownership of silk road has recently changed hands?
Post by: smokecrack on July 14, 2013, 10:01 pm
voting closes in 9 days
Title: Re: do you believe that the ownership of silk road has recently changed hands?
Post by: Trainwrecked on July 14, 2013, 11:17 pm
DPR is God.  He's all 3.  Jesus Christ, God, and The Holy Ghost.  All hail DPR.
Title: Re: do you believe that the ownership of silk road has recently changed hands?
Post by: ReD EyE on July 14, 2013, 11:58 pm
DPR is God.  He's all 3.  Jesus Christ, God, and The Holy Ghost.  All hail DPR.

AMEN
Title: Re: do you believe that the ownership of silk road has recently changed hands?
Post by: wordpresshacker on July 15, 2013, 02:00 am
DPR is God.  He's all 3.  Jesus Christ, God, and The Holy Ghost.  All hail DPR.

Um more than all three.

Baby Jesus, Cartman, Batman, Jason Bourne, and all the Jack Ass Crew....

My 2 cents are they know who he is, his crew and it was sold cashed out and the original creator of SR lucks in this forums, offering advise as a person who misses the rush but lurks on the shadows.

Cash outs are a part of business, the goal of all the other spawns from SR success... BMR, Atlantis and the debunk Sheep...

Vendors are getting busted as the Germany one did from here recently posted.  So when you become the best most visited in the media they watch try to pick apart shipping trends on here.

I've read the writing style changed up, thats just having someone type up some post's as we can reedit and type this... 

All I gotta say is yes I think its been resold a few times over... For profit..
Title: Re: do you believe that the ownership of silk road has recently changed hands?
Post by: nanpa2001 on July 15, 2013, 03:08 am
whoever has been posting on the DPR account lately....is not the same person

This!!!!
Title: Re: do you believe that the ownership of silk road has recently changed hands?
Post by: joolz on July 15, 2013, 09:01 am
whoever has been posting on the DPR account lately....is not the same person
whats that mean ? = its compromised be the police or L.E ?  ???
Title: Re: do you believe that the ownership of silk road has recently changed hands?
Post by: joolz on July 15, 2013, 09:02 am
whoever has been posting on the DPR account lately....is not the same person

This!!!!
:(
Title: Re: do you believe that the ownership of silk road has recently changed hands?
Post by: cirrus on July 15, 2013, 09:49 am
whoever has been posting on the DPR account lately....is not the same person
whats that mean ? = its compromised be the police or L.E ?  ???

No, joolz, no one is saying or implying that.  Please don't start that kind of rumor.
Title: Re: do you believe that the ownership of silk road has recently changed hands?
Post by: aredhel on July 17, 2013, 06:07 pm
There was an April 1st joke on Atlantis, that DPR was buying the Atlantis site for 9000 BTC - you are starting to make me beleive this has actually happened :O
Title: Re: do you believe that the ownership of silk road has recently changed hands?
Post by: joolz on July 17, 2013, 10:03 pm
There was an April 1st joke on Atlantis, that DPR was buying the Atlantis site for 9000 BTC - you are starting to make me beleive this has actually happened :O
whos Dpr and why wouldnt he   ;)
Title: Re: do you believe that the ownership of silk road has recently changed hands?
Post by: anom on July 17, 2013, 11:22 pm
There was an April 1st joke on Atlantis, that DPR was buying the Atlantis site for 9000 BTC - you are starting to make me beleive this has actually happened :O
whos Dpr and why wouldnt he   ;)
Because the idea is there, the coding exists, and these darknet hidden services arent exactly controlled under some set of regulations.  Anyone with sufficient coding and technical knowledge could design and host a site that mimics SR or Atlantis (Atlantis is one such example)
Title: Re: do you believe that the ownership of silk road has recently changed hands?
Post by: joolz on July 18, 2013, 01:37 am
There was an April 1st joke on Atlantis, that DPR was buying the Atlantis site for 9000 BTC - you are starting to make me beleive this has actually happened :O
whos Dpr and why wouldnt he   ;)
Because the idea is there, the coding exists, and these darknet hidden services arent exactly controlled under some set of regulations.  Anyone with sufficient coding and technical knowledge could design and host a site that mimics SR or Atlantis (Atlantis is one such example)
think youve answered your own question buddy  :-X
Title: Re: do you believe that the ownership of silk road has recently changed hands?
Post by: upthera on July 18, 2013, 04:42 am
yup, if not sold somethings changed and it is obvious :-(  Glad my favorite vendor just opend an account at Atlantis.
Title: Re: do you believe that the ownership of silk road has recently changed hands?
Post by: Rocknessie on July 18, 2013, 12:34 pm
I've not started using Atlantis yet. I've no immediate plans to but it's bookmarked, I've browsed, and it's nice to know it's there in case I ever need it.

And if both SR and Atlantis go down... someone else would take their place.
Title: Re: do you believe that the ownership of silk road has recently changed hands?
Post by: upthera on July 18, 2013, 01:09 pm
I've not started using Atlantis yet. I've no immediate plans to but it's bookmarked, I've browsed, and it's nice to know it's there in case I ever need it.

And if both SR and Atlantis go down... someone else would take their place.

^^^ sounds about right.  I often see vendors say that they have checked it out but "not enough customers"  That tells me that they will follow us(buyers) there if we go there.  I don't blame them for not adding more work and obligation and risk to there operations unless they feel it will be worth it.  I'm thrilled that the best SR Hash vendor by far  has opened an account there and although I don't have an account yet I plan to place my next order with him from that site, see how it goes.
the other thing is many vendors have there own HS sites. No Escrow or SR support but if you've dealt with them here and have a decent buyer/seller relationship, it's another option. A risky one in many case but another option nonetheless.
Title: Re: do you believe that the ownership of silk road has recently changed hands?
Post by: yunalesca on July 19, 2013, 02:45 pm
I tend to agree with Jack - changing the roles so someone else can step up for their turn as DPR is what the idea is all about. The current DPR plays the role so long as needed, then moves on, possibly for good or to a mod's role while DPR mans the helm.  Wesley was the 4th DPR in The Princess Bride, the previous 3 having retired with their riches...


My bet, for now, is on it being SCOUT.  :)

As much as most of us would love that, Scout got kicked out of here a little while ago and isn't allowed back on the forums.  For sure it would be awesome though.  At least it seemed like Scout cared.  :(
Title: Re: do you believe that the ownership of silk road has recently changed hands?
Post by: brusselsprout on July 19, 2013, 04:55 pm
There was some suggestion that Scout cared too much and let emotion guide her actions. I don't know specifics though.

Anyway, businesses change ownership. Maybe if it's true that we have a new DPR, they'll bother to get some proper filtering into the listings. SR is crying out for so many basic features.
Title: Re: do you believe that the ownership of silk road has recently changed hands?
Post by: anchientlib on July 19, 2013, 04:58 pm
There was some suggestion that Scout cared too much and let emotion guide her actions. I don't know specifics though.

Anyway, businesses change ownership. Maybe if it's true that we have a new DPR, they'll bother to get some proper filtering into the listings. SR is crying out for so many basic features.
I second that. Please just some checkboxes in the PM area so i can selectively delete or delete all even.
Libby
Title: Re: do you believe that the ownership of silk road has recently changed hands?
Post by: isallmememe on July 19, 2013, 09:47 pm
who knows, who cares, as long as the drugs keep coming rite??
Title: Re: do you believe that the ownership of silk road has recently changed hands?
Post by: druff1138 on July 19, 2013, 10:28 pm
I have said it before, but for the sake of conversation I will say it again...

If DPR is in fact the original DPR, that would be bad. I can promise you with the NSA and FBI on the case of SR and cryptocurrencies he should cut his loses, give everyone notice, and lay low.LulzSec/Sabu ring any bells?
Title: Re: do you believe that the ownership of silk road has recently changed hands?
Post by: Jack N Hoff on July 19, 2013, 10:40 pm
I have said it before, but for the sake of conversation I will say it again...

If DPR is in fact the original DPR, that would be bad. I can promise you with the NSA and FBI on the case of SR and cryptocurrencies he should cut his loses, give everyone notice, and lay low.LulzSec/Sabu ring any bells?

Sabu was dumb.  He had a website registered in his name with his internet and one of the members linked linked his website his IRC channel while agents were sitting in the channel and he wigged out and bitched at him in the channel while agents were logging it all.  That is pretty much how they caught him.  He also often used his neighbors internet.  I'm just saying......  DPR and Sabu has completely different security procedures. 

Sabu even "hacked" an automotive website and had four car engines shipped to his apartment in the projects and sold them to pay his rent.... :o
Title: Re: do you believe that the ownership of silk road has recently changed hands?
Post by: druff1138 on July 19, 2013, 10:53 pm
It was not my intention to compare the two, I feel that is like comparing apples and care tires, but I am just saying all good things come to an end, it is up to us, and DPR, how that story ends. Things are getting complicated.
Title: Re: do you believe that the ownership of silk road has recently changed hands?
Post by: nanpa2001 on July 20, 2013, 12:17 am
I tend to agree with Jack - changing the roles so someone else can step up for their turn as DPR is what the idea is all about. The current DPR plays the role so long as needed, then moves on, possibly for good or to a mod's role while DPR mans the helm.  Wesley was the 4th DPR in The Princess Bride, the previous 3 having retired with their riches...


My bet, for now, is on it being SCOUT.  :)

As much as most of us would love that, Scout got kicked out of here a little while ago and isn't allowed back on the forums.  For sure it would be awesome though.  At least it seemed like Scout cared.  :(

Absolutely correct. The person using the Scout account isn't the original person. The original Scout is persona non grata, vaporized, an unperson.

Title: Re: do you believe that the ownership of silk road has recently changed hands?
Post by: joolz on July 20, 2013, 02:41 am
NYSE listing Nadaq  next  ;D how do they manage to post profits and where ?
Title: Re: do you believe that the ownership of silk road has recently changed hands?
Post by: SOUTHPAW on July 20, 2013, 02:41 am
I tend to agree with Jack - changing the roles so someone else can step up for their turn as DPR is what the idea is all about. The current DPR plays the role so long as needed, then moves on, possibly for good or to a mod's role while DPR mans the helm.  Wesley was the 4th DPR in The Princess Bride, the previous 3 having retired with their riches...


My bet, for now, is on it being SCOUT.  :)

As much as most of us would love that, Scout got kicked out of here a little while ago and isn't allowed back on the forums.  For sure it would be awesome though.  At least it seemed like Scout cared.  :(

Absolutely correct. The person using the Scout account isn't the original person. The original Scout is persona non grata, vaporized, an unperson.

Didn't know the Scout account was still posting.  I believe, by looking at the style and attitude of posts, that a great many accounts both forum and vendors have changed hands. No definitive way to confirm this but it seems logical especially after a vendor has a significant down time(absence). What can you do but protect yourself ?
Title: Re: do you believe that the ownership of silk road has recently changed hands?
Post by: joolz on July 21, 2013, 01:32 am
^  ;D
Title: Re: do you believe that the ownership of silk road has recently changed hands?
Post by: joolz on July 23, 2013, 03:52 am
seems to have a slight wiff about it
Title: Re: do you believe that the ownership of silk road has recently changed hands?
Post by: silo on July 23, 2013, 05:07 am
strangest vote ive ever cast...felt like I was making a decision on if there was a decision. Maybe DPR got into a new drug?

And for you jack n hoff, with your new avatar...has your ownership changed hands? I know ive been jack n hoff w the same hand for years.



also thanks for causing me to watch then analyze the fuck out of the princess bride...
Title: Re: do you believe that the ownership of silk road has recently changed hands?
Post by: joolz on July 23, 2013, 10:43 am
the ran off with all the scam money ?
Title: Re: do you believe that the ownership of silk road has recently changed hands?
Post by: smokecrack on July 23, 2013, 06:10 pm
polls are closed and the votes are in
Title: Re: do you believe that the ownership of silk road has recently changed hands?
Post by: joolz on July 24, 2013, 09:30 am
guess we all knew that and aint stupid   ;D
Title: Re: do you believe that the ownership of silk road has recently changed hands?
Post by: hielonite on July 24, 2013, 01:22 pm
There was some suggestion that Scout cared too much and let emotion guide her actions. I don't know specifics though.

Wait, what happened to Scout?
Title: Re: do you believe that the ownership of silk road has recently changed hands?
Post by: PureEnergy on July 26, 2013, 01:23 am
If I created or ran something, such as Silk Road, I would probably only have a handful of candidates that would be in a position to take over. I would either pass it on to one of my close associates and take a percentage over time, or just give it to them, get the fuck out, and go live in the tropics for the rest of my life =/
Title: Re: do you believe that the ownership of silk road has recently changed hands?
Post by: fredflintstone on July 26, 2013, 01:37 am
Scout was never interested in the drugs side of SR ... when attempts to start a (blank ) became too burdensome, ( blank ) retired.

Title: Re: do you believe that the ownership of silk road has recently changed hands?
Post by: hielonite on July 26, 2013, 07:21 am
Scout was never interested in the drugs side of SR ... when attempts to start a (blank ) became too burdensome, ( blank ) retired.

hmmm... no shit....
Title: Re: do you believe that the ownership of silk road has recently changed hands?
Post by: joolz on July 26, 2013, 10:21 am
cant touch  this                                                                                                           can try  ;D
Title: Re: do you believe that the ownership of silk road has recently changed hands?
Post by: joolz on July 26, 2013, 09:07 pm
ahhhhh keep the money Sr this is fun  ;D
Title: Re: do you believe that the ownership of silk road has recently changed hands?
Post by: Aoth14 on July 26, 2013, 09:46 pm
this thread makes it sound like dpr is just some nerd in a dorm room like the new mark zuckerberg
Title: Re: do you believe that the ownership of silk road has recently changed hands?
Post by: JahBUDS on August 10, 2013, 10:51 pm
From what we've come to understand.. the "Dread Pirate Roberts" Title.. is passed on after one runs the role for a certain amount of time.. then a "predecessor" is there and has been training.. and then boom, becomes the new "Dread Pirate Roberts" without telling anyone... or at least I think that is how it went.. It was something similar to this, haha.
So, for people "speculating" the "change of Leadership".. it has probably happened once.. if not twice or three times... maybe even four times.. since this has been running.
The DPR now definitely has a different "hand" to him so to say.. and we remember when DPR came out and posted in the forums about how he "was changing his writing style to better throw off LE" or something along those lines.

Perfect example of when the "reins" might have changed. So much shit is going on behind closed doors.. we'll never know, remember? We're just here for the ride.


Title: Re: do you believe that the ownership of silk road has recently changed hands?
Post by: CrazyBart on August 10, 2013, 11:35 pm
Didnt read through the posts but i have been thinking about it for awhile. I think we are on our 3rd DPR (and my least favourite :o) with the last changing of hands happening around early to mid-June.

Or maybe that's what he wants us to think ;)
Title: Re: do you believe that the ownership of silk road has recently changed hands?
Post by: colorblack on August 11, 2013, 06:48 am
Sure miss Scout though. Hand's down the coolest vendor SR has ever had (atleast in the last year I've been here). Funny, witty, and a really decent guy. Not to mention fair as fuck.. and very well liked by everyone here.

Hope he's doing well.. Scout if you're out there, stay cool brother.  ;)
Title: Re: do you believe that the ownership of silk road has recently changed hands?
Post by: livestr0ng on August 11, 2013, 07:59 am
Many people think the DPR changes after a certain amount of time. SR has only been around for a little over two year which isn't much time. Plus, I bet it takes several months just to get the hang of things. This does not seem like the most practical way to do it.

WHAT I THINK is that the DPR changes after a certain amount of money made. Because of his anarchistic/libertarian views, I think it's safe to assume he knows all kinds of people can be corrupt. A new DPR could hike up commission % and let it ride. But because the DPR would still be ousted when the limit is reached, there's no reason to. Also, having it based on amount of money made creates unpredictability. Why would DPR want us and LE to know when he is going to retire and have a new person come in? Finally, I think DPR would want to quit while ahead. Having a set amount of money to reach would keep him from getting carried away while still having a good amount of money in his pocket. This would give him a chance to relax more (but maybe not entirely because he could still be a target for LE.) Note that this idea does not rule out the chance of DPR being a group of people.
Title: Re: do you believe that the ownership of silk road has recently changed hands?
Post by: ananas_xpress on August 11, 2013, 03:23 pm
Many people think the DPR changes after a certain amount of time. SR has only been around for a little over two year which isn't much time. Plus, I bet it takes several months just to get the hang of things. This does not seem like the most practical way to do it.

WHAT I THINK is that the DPR changes after a certain amount of money made. Because of his anarchistic/libertarian views, I think it's safe to assume he knows all kinds of people can be corrupt. A new DPR could hike up commission % and let it ride. But because the DPR would still be ousted when the limit is reached, there's no reason to. Also, having it based on amount of money made creates unpredictability. Why would DPR want us and LE to know when he is going to retire and have a new person come in? Finally, I think DPR would want to quit while ahead. Having a set amount of money to reach would keep him from getting carried away while still having a good amount of money in his pocket. This would give him a chance to relax more (but maybe not entirely because he could still be a target for LE.) Note that this idea does not rule out the chance of DPR being a group of people.

Great post, +1. If there was a real way to setup the business and keep it's morals this would be it.
The current SR pays lip service to it's roots IMO in the same way  Ben n Jerrys do
Title: Re: do you believe that the ownership of silk road has recently changed hands?
Post by: joolz on August 12, 2013, 06:30 am
defo  *   8)
Title: Re: do you believe that the ownership of silk road has recently changed hands?
Post by: AfternoonDelight on August 12, 2013, 05:02 pm
I think it's the same person who used to go by the handle Silk Road.
Changing writing styles is part of the game.
DPR/SR has been giving interviews since the beginning.
There is literally no evidence as to who, how many there are or where DPR is, so we are all speculating.

I wouldn't be surprised at all if this place wasn't run by one person, or even a small group, but a large, well-funded criminal organization.
You just never know.
Title: Re: do you believe that the ownership of silk road has recently changed hands?
Post by: spectrum on August 12, 2013, 05:17 pm
Sure miss Scout though. Hand's down the coolest vendor SR has ever had (atleast in the last year I've been here). Funny, witty, and a really decent guy. Not to mention fair as fuck.. and very well liked by everyone here.

Hope he's doing well.. Scout if you're out there, stay cool brother.  ;)

I think you meant mod. :)
Title: Re: do you believe that the ownership of silk road has recently changed hands?
Post by: joolz on August 13, 2013, 01:25 am
whoever they are they make a fortune and pay taxes  :-X
Title: Re: do you believe that the ownership of silk road has recently changed hands?
Post by: SOUTHPAW on August 13, 2013, 06:02 pm

I wouldn't be surprised at all if this place wasn't run by one person, or even a small group, but a large, well-funded criminal organization.
You just never know.

It is definitely a well funded criminal organization, duh... ;)


Joolz, what up with you? U been chilln huh?  :)
Title: Re: do you believe that the ownership of silk road has recently changed hands?
Post by: Juggernog on August 13, 2013, 06:31 pm
DPR is one of these aliases, and has probably already posted in this thread.