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Discussion => Silk Road discussion => Topic started by: Dread Pirate Roberts on June 04, 2013, 11:40 pm
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It's been over two years and Silk Road is still here. We've had setbacks here and there, but I'm happy to say that mostly we've thrived. Everyone who's taken their security seriously, and many who haven't remain free and prosperous despite the wishes of the powerful law enforcement agencies that target us. It is easy to start feeling confident, invincible, even cocky.
I encourage you to look for this in yourself and refrain from acting on it. A thread was recently started in this forum publishing the personal information of LE agents that users had a particular grudge with. Let me make this abundantly clear:
We are not strong enough to attack our enemies directly!
If we start organizing attacks from this forum against LE agents, it will become exponentially harder to resist their attacks and keep Silk Road alive. This task is hard enough as it is, please don't make it any harder!
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I completely agree, attacking them will only cause more problems in the long run.
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Understood Boss.
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I know there are a lot of braindead idiots on these forums but I can't believe anyone here would think that attacking LE would actually be a good idea.
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I support this. Attacking LE would mean more attention, generating more problems. Keep this underground.
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Talk About stirring the honey pot...LOL
MMM
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One must not lower themselves to the level of the enemy.
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Understood, nice to hear from you.
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Yes, an attack on LE would make for a very bad NEWS story. :-[
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Yes, an attack on LE would make for a very bad NEWS story. :-[
For the record, I was one of them he is talking about and it was not an attack. I merely posted the personal information of some LEOs. I have since stopped.
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+1 to you Jack :)
(Hugs)
ChemCat O0
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Yes, an attack on LE would make for a very bad NEWS story. :-[
For the record, I was one of them he is talking about and it was not an attack. I merely posted the personal information of some LEOs. I have since stopped.
Jack you get a pass.. because of.. YOUR FUCKING AVATAR! LOL! Everytime I see your post I smile (in a non gay way) because I just think of Clinton. Cracks me up every time!
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It's been over two years and Silk Road is still here. We've had setbacks here and there, but I'm happy to say that mostly we've thrived. Everyone who's taken their security seriously, and many who haven't remain free and prosperous despite the wishes of the powerful law enforcement agencies that target us. It is easy to start feeling confident, invincible, even cocky.
I encourage you to look for this in yourself and refrain from acting on it. A thread was recently started in this forum publishing the personal information of LE agents that users had a particular grudge with. Let me make this abundantly clear:
We are not strong enough to attack our enemies directly!
If we start organizing attacks from this forum against LE agents, it will become exponentially harder to resist their attacks and keep Silk Road alive. This task is hard enough as it is, please don't make it any harder!
Well put DPR. I would say 98.87% of the credit of SR thriving and being relatively as strong as ever goes to YOU. Thank you.
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don't get cocky, loose lips sink ships, ect. Good point. :)
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So can we start planning ancillary attacks on our enemies to destroy the ground around them?
Oh wait. We already do that.
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Well damn I feel like I just got called into the principal's office.
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Could you imagine if SR was like Runescape? we could walk to the grand exchange to buy stuff LOL
**Slaps Forehead**
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Right on DPR!
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Yes, an attack on LE would make for a very bad NEWS story. :-[
For the record, I was one of them he is talking about and it was not an attack. I merely posted the personal information of some LEOs. I have since stopped.
Jack you get a pass.. because of.. YOUR FUCKING AVATAR! LOL! Everytime I see your post I smile (in a non gay way) because I just think of Clinton. Cracks me up every time!
To be honest, I giggle in my head when I see my own avatar next to my posts.
Well damn I feel like I just got called into the principal's office.
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Me too :-[
I just despise law enforcement >:(
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It's been over two years and Silk Road is still here. We've had setbacks here and there, but I'm happy to say that mostly we've thrived. Everyone who's taken their security seriously, and many who haven't remain free and prosperous despite the wishes of the powerful law enforcement agencies that target us. It is easy to start feeling confident, invincible, even cocky.
I encourage you to look for this in yourself and refrain from acting on it. A thread was recently started in this forum publishing the personal information of LE agents that users had a particular grudge with. Let me make this abundantly clear:
We are not strong enough to attack our enemies directly!
If we start organizing attacks from this forum against LE agents, it will become exponentially harder to resist their attacks and keep Silk Road alive. This task is hard enough as it is, please don't make it any harder!
Quoted for truth. In general, I believe anyone putting out anyone else's(or their own) information on these boards or on SR main site, should never be tolerated; I'm sure it's probably not. The continuation of growth relies on the continuation of professionalism on all levels here. I believe there to be a lot of young users amongst us; but there is no excuse for disrespectful and harmful behavior. I highly doubt anyone here wants to go to jail, or be killed; so don't wish such things on others. That's just ridiculous!
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Yes, an attack on LE would make for a very bad NEWS story. :-[
For the record, I was one of them he is talking about and it was not an attack. I merely posted the personal information of some LEOs. I have since stopped.
Jack, I am well aware it was you, I was there when you posted it and did not comment on it because it seemed way the fuck out there, even for you. :-*
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don't get cocky, loose lips sink ships, ect. Good point. :)
+1 for the ship/pirate reference. 8)
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Yes, an attack on LE would make for a very bad NEWS story. :-[
For the record, I was one of them he is talking about and it was not an attack. I merely posted the personal information of some LEOs. I have since stopped.
Jack, I am well aware it was you, I was there when you posted it and did not comment on it because it seemed way the fuck out there, even for you. :-*
Then you are a bitch, SOUTHPAW, If you see someone doing something stupid that can hurt us all, you need to speak up and set them straight.
We need to all pull together and keep SR as safe and secret and secure as possible. This is anarchy my friends, that means we are all in charge of it.
Do your part. PGP, no fingerprints, if you get popped, take it like a man and do your time with your fucking mouth shut.
Modzi
Modzi
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Lighten up Modziw. It was just the info of two cops. No planned attack or anything like it sounds. Just two names and addresses.
Me so sorry :-[
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:D
That time of the month wizdom? :o
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It's been over two years and Silk Road is still here. We've had setbacks here and there, but I'm happy to say that mostly we've thrived. Everyone who's taken their security seriously, and many who haven't remain free and prosperous despite the wishes of the powerful law enforcement agencies that target us. It is easy to start feeling confident, invincible, even cocky.
I encourage you to look for this in yourself and refrain from acting on it. A thread was recently started in this forum publishing the personal information of LE agents that users had a particular grudge with. Let me make this abundantly clear:
We are not strong enough to attack our enemies directly!
If we start organizing attacks from this forum against LE agents, it will become exponentially harder to resist their attacks and keep Silk Road alive. This task is hard enough as it is, please don't make it any harder!
Quoted for truth. In general, I believe anyone putting out anyone else's(or their own) information on these boards or on SR main site, should never be tolerated; I'm sure it's probably not. The continuation of growth relies on the continuation of professionalism on all levels here. I believe there to be a lot of young users amongst us; but there is no excuse for disrespectful and harmful behavior. I highly doubt anyone here wants to go to jail, or be killed; so don't wish such things on others. That's just ridiculous!
Yes, an attack on LE would make for a very bad NEWS story. :-[
For the record, I was one of them he is talking about and it was not an attack. I merely posted the personal information of some LEOs. I have since stopped.
Jack, I am well aware it was you, I was there when you posted it and did not comment on it because it seemed way the fuck out there, even for you. :-*
Then you are a bitch, SOUTHPAW, If you see someone doing something stupid that can hurt us all, you need to speak up and set them straight.
We need to all pull together and keep SR as safe and secret and secure as possible. This is anarchy my friends, that means we are all in charge of it.
Do your part. PGP, no fingerprints, if you get popped, take it like a man and do your time with your fucking mouth shut.
Modzi
Modzi
This^
These people have innocent family members around them man, wtf.
We aren't about that life here at Silk Road...
I'm not at least, not cool.
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These people have innocent family members around them man, wtf.
We aren't about that life here at Silk Road...
I'm not at least, not cool.
Maybe you missed something but there was no attack or planned attack. Just names and addresses. What would one of our friendly members here do? Send a pizza?
By the way, I don't think law enforcements family members are innocent. It's fair game to me. I am a Dorner supporter to the fullest!
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These people have innocent family members around them man, wtf.
We aren't about that life here at Silk Road...
I'm not at least, not cool.
Maybe you missed something but there was no attack or planned attack. Just names and addresses. What would one of our friendly members here do? Send a pizza?
By the way, I don't think law enforcements family members are innocent. It's fair game to me. I am a Dorner supporter to the fullest!
I didn't even see the thread. I could care less to be honest. All I know is personal information is meant to be encrypted for a reason, there are some sick fucks amongst us.
If you support the killing of innocent people then consider yourself in the club.
By the way, you can't support something that's dead.
That piece of shit is burning in hell with a soldering iron shoved down his dick hole.
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These people have innocent family members around them man, wtf.
We aren't about that life here at Silk Road...
I'm not at least, not cool.
Maybe you missed something but there was no attack or planned attack. Just names and addresses. What would one of our friendly members here do? Send a pizza?
By the way, I don't think law enforcements family members are innocent. It's fair game to me. I am a Dorner supporter to the fullest!
I didn't even see the thread. I could care less to be honest. All I know is personal information is meant to be encrypted for a reason, there are some sick fucks amongst us.
If you support the killing of innocent people then consider yourself in the club.
By the way, you can't support something that's dead.
That piece of shit is burning in hell with a soldering iron shoved down his dick hole.
Your right about there being some SICK people in here. Hell I see one right here and another thinking this is anarchy. You two geniuses are a fucking joke!!!
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Just Curious:
with all encrypted TOR messages, etc, how on Earth do you know who's LE and who is not?
And if they were LE, and some crazed and deranged "freedom fighter" were to kill them etc, could you just imagine?
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These people have innocent family members around them man, wtf.
We aren't about that life here at Silk Road...
I'm not at least, not cool.
Maybe you missed something but there was no attack or planned attack. Just names and addresses. What would one of our friendly members here do? Send a pizza?
By the way, I don't think law enforcements family members are innocent. It's fair game to me. I am a Dorner supporter to the fullest!
I didn't even see the thread. I could care less to be honest. All I know is personal information is meant to be encrypted for a reason, there are some sick fucks amongst us.
If you support the killing of innocent people then consider yourself in the club.
By the way, you can't support something that's dead.
That piece of shit is burning in hell with a soldering iron shoved down his dick hole.
No, he was a hero. Innocent people? When LE conspire against their own piggy friends and lie about them and get them fired, murder is justifiable. After all, your a cop and it's nothing to you. Cops enjoy shooting people. They get fucking weeks paid leave every time they cap someone. They get a motherfucking vacation. All those sick fucks you're talking about can just look up any cops address on the internet. ::) I didn't tell anyone to get them or go after them or anything at all. You can definitely support dead people. A simple google search will tell you I am not the only one. There are tens of thousands of people who openly support Dorner on facebook. Here is the first link on google and one of many groupss on facebook https://www.facebook.com/IsupportCJD
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Just Curious:
with all encrypted TOR messages, etc, how on Earth do you know who's LE and who is not?
And if they were LE, and some crazed and deranged "freedom fighter" were to kill them etc, could you just imagine?
The info wasn't from Silk Road. I have hundreds of thousands of law enforcement officers information and backups of law enforcement databases.
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Just Curious:
with all encrypted TOR messages, etc, how on Earth do you know who's LE and who is not?
And if they were LE, and some crazed and deranged "freedom fighter" were to kill them etc, could you just imagine?
The info wasn't from Silk Road. I have hundreds of thousands of law enforcement officers information and backups of law enforcement databases.
I'm beginning to think that's no avatar at all... That's a damn head shot! You can't fool me Big Willy
BTW- I've got your wife's back for 2014
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Yes, be
These people have innocent family members around them man, wtf.
We aren't about that life here at Silk Road...
I'm not at least, not cool.
Maybe you missed something but there was no attack or planned attack. Just names and addresses. What would one of our friendly members here do? Send a pizza?
By the way, I don't think law enforcements family members are innocent. It's fair game to me. I am a Dorner supporter to the fullest!
I didn't even see the thread. I could care less to be honest. All I know is personal information is meant to be encrypted for a reason, there are some sick fucks amongst us.
If you support the killing of innocent people then consider yourself in the club.
By the way, you can't support something that's dead.
That piece of shit is burning in hell with a soldering iron shoved down his dick hole.
After all, your a cop and it's nothing to you.
Yes because cops make guides to help the masses access an online drug utopia.
Bah...
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Just Curious:
with all encrypted TOR messages, etc, how on Earth do you know who's LE and who is not?
And if they were LE, and some crazed and deranged "freedom fighter" were to kill them etc, could you just imagine?
The info wasn't from Silk Road. I have hundreds of thousands of law enforcement officers information and backups of law enforcement databases.
I'm beginning to think that's no avatar at all... That's a damn head shot! You can't fool me Big Willy
Big Willy, that's what the pornstars call me heh heh heh
http://torimagesbp2vt3u.onion/i/zTys.jpg
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Yes, beThese people have innocent family members around them man, wtf.
We aren't about that life here at Silk Road...
I'm not at least, not cool.
Maybe you missed something but there was no attack or planned attack. Just names and addresses. What would one of our friendly members here do? Send a pizza?
By the way, I don't think law enforcements family members are innocent. It's fair game to me. I am a Dorner supporter to the fullest!
I didn't even see the thread. I could care less to be honest. All I know is personal information is meant to be encrypted for a reason, there are some sick fucks amongst us.
If you support the killing of innocent people then consider yourself in the club.
By the way, you can't support something that's dead.
That piece of shit is burning in hell with a soldering iron shoved down his dick hole.
No, he was a hero. Innocent people? When LE conspire against their own piggy friends and lie about them and get them fired, murder is justifiable. After all, your a cop and it's nothing to you. Cops enjoy shooting people. They get fucking weeks paid leave every time they cap someone. They get a motherfucking vacation. All those sick fucks you're talking about can just look up any cops address on the internet. ::) I didn't tell anyone to get them or go after them or anything at all. You can definitely support dead people. A simple google search will tell you I am not the only one. There are tens of thousands of people who openly support Dorner on facebook. Here is the first link on google and one of many groupss on facebook https://www.facebook.com/IsupportCJD
Yes because cops make guides to help the masses access an online drug utopia.
Bah...
Not YOU. You took that completely out of context. I was talking in third person as a cop. "When LE conspire against their own piggy friends and lie about them and get them fired, murder is justifiable. After all, your a cop and it's nothing to you."
Like saying when Santa Claus comes down the chimney and sees the cookies, you might as well eat them, you're already fat.
I guess I could have worded it differently, I was typing fast. I don't think you're a cop White 0ut, we've talked privately before and you already know that . I'd actually wager money that you're not a cop lol.
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We need to all pull together and keep SR as safe and secret and secure as possible. This is anarchy my friends, that means we are all in charge of it.
Do your part. PGP, no fingerprints, if you get popped, take it like a man and do your time with your fucking mouth shut.
THIS ^^^
I completely agree with DPR and we appreciate Jack's (Bill's?) honesty and so he gets my vote. It was a mistake and he rectified it
I too diagree with DOXing anyone in this forum, esp a cop! :o
We would do well to forge a greater sense of solidarity here, and look after each other as Modwiz suggests, hey there are enough scammers here to keep us busy, no?
You should come to Oz bro, cops are usually pretty chill, (except in WA and a little bit QLD where they have a few bad rogues!)
yeah you hear about the odd event but overall our cops seem 'more human' than yours, not as 'jumpy', prolly coz there are very few guns amongst the average crim here and they rarely get shot on duty let alone killed!
I'm not a big fan of authority in general, but for the time being cops are a 'necessary evil' ... they do serve a purpose although the line between service and control is getting thinner everyday!
However what I've been seeing in the US over the past 20 years is very sad and totally fucked. I'm so glad I dont live there, and I say that without prejudice!
motek
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I'm beginning to think that's no avatar at all... That's a damn head shot! You can't fool me Big Willy
Big Willy, that's what the pornstars call me heh heh heh
I imagine all Jack's posts spoken in a raspy and heartfelt drawl. It's too easy. ('Ah feel your pain. Ah do. An' lemme tell you somethin', America. There are still places you can go to get somethin' for that pain. Now Al here, he can tell you all about the reg'lar Internet. But Ah'm gonna let you in on a little secret...')
And tho I'm sorry to disappoint, in 2016 Im backing DPR.
Btc.
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Here's some thoughts, they are just mine... I may be about to stick my head up from the trench and be shot at but here it goes.
All this talk about 'fucking cops' and 'pigs' and 'those LE cunts' etc etc that gets a MINORITY few on here all worked up, is imo mostly mock hatred and a waste of thread space. I don't even think that the majority of people that post comments like that actually have a genuine hatred and contempt of LE.
I reckon there are prob less than 10% of all SR travelers that have ever been in jail or had serious encounters with LE... so only a fairly small number of us would have any significant reason to carry such a venomous hatred of LE. The real crims don't need SR, they have a network of buddies that can hook em up with pretty well whatever the fuck they want to get hold of, whenever they want it. I don't think they could be arsed with all this computer stuff... the dark web, Tor, logins and passwords etc just to get some gear.
You might note that DPR's caution was just that, a caution. There was no dick swinging, tough guy rant about "those fucking LE dudes" and blah blah blah. My interpretation of the caution was to remind us to not become complacent, not to underestimate our opponent... or enemy if you like... but there was no rants of hatred aimed at LE.
I may be wrong, but if you are using SR to buy illegal items that you want delivered by illegal use of a carriage (postal) system, then what part of ILLEGAL don't ya get?? The cops don't make the rules, they just enforce them on behalf of your government. Truth is most cops have/do/will use Class A drugs... they are not in general morally opposed to them, they are just doing their job.
We have our team in here, they have their team out there, and at the end of the day it will be the most committed and smartest team that wins. So as DPR cautions, if we get complacent we have already lost (thanks coach ;) ) I'm not trying to make out its all just a game, because obviously the consequences for our team if we lose are pretty fucking horrible... much worse than 'a game'.
Anyway, my point is, there is no point in bitching, moaning, yelling, screaming and cursing LE... what did you expect 'their team' to do... forfeit and go home?? Fuck me, if nothing, we should at least consider them a worthy opponent.
I may have just put MYSELF in a minority on here with these commetns, but too many times I read of another cop who doesn't get to go home and see his family tonight... or EVER AGAIN. And that makes me think, the dude was just out doing his job, bringin home the bacon, and he gets topped before dinner.
Only society as a whole will ultimately change attitudes and laws around drugs. Demanding that LE stand down and telling them to fuck of won't... sorry if that comes as a surprise. IMO removing LE from society would have a fuckload more bad outcomes than good, so maybe start working on those around you rather than just yelling at the other team?
Good night, i'm going home for dinner.
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All this talk about 'fucking cops' and 'pigs' and 'those LE cunts' etc etc that gets a MINORITY few on here all worked up, is imo mostly mock hatred and a waste of thread space. I don't even think that the majority of people that post comments like that actually have a genuine hatred and contempt of LE.
I fucking hate them. I've stepped to several IRL. I've told cops to take off that badge and gun and step to me like a man so I don't get hit with battery on a leo. I genuinely hate law enforcement.
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=And that makes me think, the dude was just out doing his job, bringin home the bacon, and he gets topped before dinner.
He chose that job. He likes being a bully. He was probably either a bully in school or picked on in school. He decided that he wanted to ruin lives and shoot people. He decided that he wanted to commit his life to a job that gives you payed vacations for shooting people. His choices. We all make choices.
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Here's some thoughts, they are just mine... I may be about to stick my head up from the trench and be shot at but here it goes.
All this talk about 'fucking cops' and 'pigs' and 'those LE cunts' etc etc that gets a MINORITY few on here all worked up, is imo mostly mock hatred and a waste of thread space. I don't even think that the majority of people that post comments like that actually have a genuine hatred and contempt of LE.
I reckon there are prob less than 10% of all SR travelers that have ever been in jail or had serious encounters with LE... so only a fairly small number of us would have any significant reason to carry such a venomous hatred of LE. The real crims don't need SR, they have a network of buddies that can hook em up with pretty well whatever the fuck they want to get hold of, whenever they want it. I don't think they could be arsed with all this computer stuff... the dark web, Tor, logins and passwords etc just to get some gear.
You might note that DPR's caution was just that, a caution. There was no dick swinging, tough guy rant about "those fucking LE dudes" and blah blah blah. My interpretation of the caution was to remind us to not become complacent, not to underestimate our opponent... or enemy if you like... but there was no rants of hatred aimed at LE.
I may be wrong, but if you are using SR to buy illegal items that you want delivered by illegal use of a carriage (postal) system, then what part of ILLEGAL don't ya get?? The cops don't make the rules, they just enforce them on behalf of your government. Truth is most cops have/do/will use Class A drugs... they are not in general morally opposed to them, they are just doing their job.
We have our team in here, they have their team out there, and at the end of the day it will be the most committed and smartest team that wins. So as DPR cautions, if we get complacent we have already lost (thanks coach ;) ) I'm not trying to make out its all just a game, because obviously the consequences for our team if we lose are pretty fucking horrible... much worse than 'a game'.
Anyway, my point is, there is no point in bitching, moaning, yelling, screaming and cursing LE... what did you expect 'their team' to do... forfeit and go home?? Fuck me, if nothing, we should at least consider them a worthy opponent.
I may have just put MYSELF in a minority on here with these commetns, but too many times I read of another cop who doesn't get to go home and see his family tonight... or EVER AGAIN. And that makes me think, the dude was just out doing his job, bringin home the bacon, and he gets topped before dinner.
Only society as a whole will ultimately change attitudes and laws around drugs. Demanding that LE stand down and telling them to fuck of won't... sorry if that comes as a surprise. IMO removing LE from society would have a fuckload more bad outcomes than good, so maybe start working on those around you rather than just yelling at the other team?
Good night, i'm going home for dinner.
Lol the last part made me laugh about the cop not getting home for dinner. It reminded of pineapple express I could just imagine Matheson saying "Dinna's go'n be served cold tonight, asshole" bang. But no really I think that you're the minority I don't know anyone IRL or on SR (besides you) that doesn't honestly hate police. I do honestly hope they all die, in the most gruesome and painful way possible. I'd say they'll live eh maybe 60-70 years from birth, they only have to put away a few non violent people selling dope and they've already essentially taken an entire life, so we can just call it even. Plus most of them are arrogant and use force that's not necessary,ever seen the Rodney King video? He didn't make it to dinner either he ended up with 11 skull fractures, a broken leg, all kinds of shit. I have no love for cops.
And @DPR Thanks for everything you do, seriously. I apologize for being a dick a few months ago on that topic, I was being pissy because I just got paid and was irritated that I couldn't log in to get drugs. But thanks, I understand with that DDoS attack and shit that keeping SR running and safe is probably a handful.
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I recently did an interview where I was asked what I considered were the greatest threats to SR users. I gave the usual answers, but later I realised that there was one I missed. This post, and StExo's sticky analysis, confirm it.
When SR began, it was small and only the most tech-savvy and security-conscious people accessed it. But in the past two years, it has been given so much mainstream media (yes, I realise that includes some of my articles) and has become so simple to access, looks so professional and is discussed so openly, I think a bunch of people honestly believe they're not doing anything "that" illegal. After all, if it were that bad, it wouldn't be so easy to do, right? It's a bit like downloading stuff from Pirate Bay - technically you can go to jail for it, but how often does that happen, right?
Either that, or people are deluded that it is "click-and-go" safe and they don't REALLY need to go to the extra effort to learn PGP or take other precautions that were once no-brainers. After all, if it were dangerous, heaps more people would have been caught. LE are powerless, right? You can taunt them and there's nothing they can do!
But drug use is much less accepted by the mainstream majority than pirating the odd movie. And using the site is only 'safe' when all of the anonymity precautions are rigorously adhered to. And whilst LE may direct resources elsewhere when a market is operating quietly and off the radar, they will throw a ton at it if you start sticking your finger up at them.
I think we will be seeing a lot more arrests due to these two types of complacency from users. Or the security-conscious will simply migrate somewhere safer.
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Lol the last part made me laugh about the cop not getting home for dinner. It reminded of pineapple express I could just imagine Matheson saying "Dinna's go'n be served cold tonight, asshole" bang. But no really I think that you're the minority I don't know anyone IRL or on SR (besides you) that doesn't honestly hate police. I do honestly hope they all die, in the most gruesome and painful way possible. I'd say they'll live eh maybe 60-70 years from birth, they only have to put away a few non violent people selling dope and they've already essentially taken an entire life, so we can just call it even. Plus most of them are arrogant and use force that's not necessary,ever seen the Rodney King video? He didn't make it to dinner either he ended up with 11 skull fractures, a broken leg, all kinds of shit. I have no love for cops.
And @DPR Thanks for everything you do, seriously. I apologize for being a dick a few months ago on that topic, I was being pissy because I just got paid and was irritated that I couldn't log in to get drugs. But thanks, I understand with that DDoS attack and shit that keeping SR running and safe is probably a handful.
+1,000
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I recently did an interview where I was asked what I considered were the greatest threats to SR users. I gave the usual answers, but later I realised that there was one I missed. This post, and StExo's sticky analysis, confirm it.
When SR began, it was small and only the most tech-savvy and security-conscious people accessed it. But in the past two years, it has been given so much mainstream media (yes, I realise that includes some of my articles) and has become so simple to access, looks so professional and is discussed so openly, I think a bunch of people honestly believe they're not doing anything "that" illegal. After all, if it were that bad, it wouldn't be so easy to do, right? It's a bit like downloading stuff from Pirate Bay - technically you can go to jail for it, but how often does that happen, right?
Either that, or people are deluded that it is "click-and-go" safe and they don't REALLY need to go to the extra effort to learn PGP or take other precautions that were once no-brainers. After all, if it were dangerous, heaps more people would have been caught. LE are powerless, right? You can taunt them and there's nothing they can do!
But drug use is much less accepted by the mainstream majority than pirating the odd movie. And using the site is only 'safe' when all of the anonymity precautions are rigorously adhered to. And whilst LE may direct resources elsewhere when a market is operating quietly and off the radar, they will throw a ton at it if you start sticking your finger up at them.
I think we will be seeing a lot more arrests due to these two types of complacency from users. Or the security-conscious will simply migrate somewhere safer.
Sorry Eileen, but I would wager that they aren't holding anything back right now. I bet that they are trying as hard as they can to bust this place and arrest anyone involved with Silk Road.
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In any group of people, there will be those who are corrupt, and those who are good. You can't take the whole group and generalize about their morality based simply on their occupation. That's not how things work.
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In any group of people, there will be those who are corrupt, and those who are good. You can't take the whole group and generalize about their morality based simply on their occupation. That's not how things work, and it's a dangerous way to go through life - just making lofty judgments of an entire group of people based on their field of work.
What about people who chose to be child molesters? Can I do that with them? Or murderers? People who chose to steal for a living? What about hitmen? I know a couple hitmen that I care for more than any law enforcement officer. Cops chose that job. The job of ruining lives and being a big dick. I used to drink with some, shit I've smoked with a cop (on accident, he asked me to pass my joint at a party full of strippers), but that was a long time ago. I have a good friend who used to be a narcotics officer. He's a great guy. He quit after a short amount of years because of how all police's attitude is or how it becomes. He said he started becoming like that and he didn't want to. He despises how they are now. Cops choose to be cops like child molesters choose to be child molesters. We can hate them for what they choose to do. No one forced them to choose to ruin lives just like no one forced them to molest children.
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=And that makes me think, the dude was just out doing his job, bringin home the bacon, and he gets topped before dinner.
He chose that job. He likes being a bully. He was probably either a bully in school or picked on in school. He decided that he wanted to ruin lives and shoot people. He decided that he wanted to commit his life to a job that gives you payed vacations for shooting people. His choices. We all make choices.
Sorry I took that "your a cop" thing with such a negative connotation JNH. It's all good man, you are stereotypical as fuck though man. I just don't see how someone can possibly want to end the life of every single cop in their country, these people withhold the law and most are even retired veterans.
It's their job man... Just deal with it.
Yeah we have a raw end of the stick, but honestly it's not as bad as it could be. We are actually pretty fucking well off as far as "coppers" go.
Go down south of the border, just get pulled over and see what happens.
Kidnapped, raped, burned, dead.
Police in most other countries are way more fucked in the head than ours.
All cops aren't bad man, just face it :D
Sorry for the harsh tone earlier, I had a little altercation earlier that riled me all up!
Are you being serious JNH or trolling?
There are law enforcement officials who truly do care to protect you and me no matter how we feel about them, whether you like it or not!
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=And that makes me think, the dude was just out doing his job, bringin home the bacon, and he gets topped before dinner.
He chose that job. He likes being a bully. He was probably either a bully in school or picked on in school. He decided that he wanted to ruin lives and shoot people. He decided that he wanted to commit his life to a job that gives you payed vacations for shooting people. His choices. We all make choices.
Sorry I took that "your a cop" thing with such a negative connotation JNH. It's all good man, you are stereotypical as fuck though man. I just don't see how someone can possibly want to end the life of every single cop in their country, these people withhold the law and most are even retired veterans.
It's their job man... Just deal with it.
Yeah we have a raw end of the stick, but honestly it's not as bad as it could be. We are actually pretty fucking well off as far as "coppers" go.
Go down south of the border, just get pulled over and see what happens.
Kidnapped, raped, burned, dead.
Police in most other countries are way more fucked in the head than ours.
All cops aren't bad man, just face it :D
Sorry for the harsh tone earlier, I had a little altercation earlier that riled me all up!
Are you being serious JNH or trolling?
There are law enforcement officials who truly do care to protect you and me no matter how we feel about them, whether you like it or not!
I'm being dead serious when I say that I hate law enforcement officers. I don't want to see them all killed. Some yes, but I would love to see them all locked up for life. I would do a dime in the pen if it meant every law enforcement officer in the world was to get locked up for life. They deserve their own treatment which is some murders here and there and lots of incarceration.
I am well aware that police corruption is much worse in third world countries.
There are law enforcement officials who truly do care to protect you and me no matter how we feel about them, whether you like it or not!
I have yet to meet one and I have met more than my fair share of officers. Which is just a small part of why I feel how I do. If that is true, then they are very few and very very far between.
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In any group of people, there will be those who are corrupt, and those who are good. You can't take the whole group and generalize about their morality based simply on their occupation. That's not how things work, and it's a dangerous way to go through life - just making lofty judgments of an entire group of people based on their field of work.
What about people who chose to be child molestors? Can I do that with them? Or murderers? People who chose to steal for a living? What about hitmen? I know a couple hitmen that I care for more than any law enforcement officer. Cops chose that job. The job of ruining lives and being a big dick. I used to drink with some, shit I've smoked with a cop (on accident, he asked me to pass my joint at a party full of strippers), but that was a long time ago. I have a good friend who used to be a narcotics officer. He's a great guy. He quit after a short amount of years because of how all police's attitude is or how it becomes. He said he started becoming like that and he didn't want to. He despises how they are now. Cops choose to be cops like child molestors choose to be child molestors. We can hate them for what they choose to do. No one forced them to choose to ruin lives just like no one forced them to molest children.
Wish I could give you more +Karma right now haha @White Out never met one like that before, sorry if I don't take your word for it. And the problem isn't necessarily with there job I'll put equal weight on a fucktards that made the laws in the first place. The problems are things like planting drugs (know a few people that its happened to), illegal search and seizures, brutal force with no reason, random stops giving bullshit tickets just to meet quota, extortion,ect more or less they break all the same laws we break and them some. And to make matters worse they're aloud to go free because of that little piece of metal on their chest. If it was me or you we would be spending a big portion of our lives locked up like animals.
@scout I think that's why he said he quit because he felt guilty about the way that police officers are/encouraged him to be, and he didn't want to become that way. He probably felt bad about planting drugs and bursting through peoples door over personal choices to take drugs that aren't harming anyone.
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In any group of people, there will be those who are corrupt, and those who are good. You can't take the whole group and generalize about their morality based simply on their occupation. That's not how things work, and it's a dangerous way to go through life - just making lofty judgments of an entire group of people based on their field of work.
What about people who chose to be child molesters? Can I do that with them? Or murderers? People who chose to steal for a living? What about hitmen? I know a couple hitmen that I care for more than any law enforcement officer. Cops chose that job. The job of ruining lives and being a big dick. I used to drink with some, shit I've smoked with a cop (on accident, he asked me to pass my joint at a party full of strippers), but that was a long time ago. I have a good friend who used to be a narcotics officer. He's a great guy. He quit after a short amount of years because of how all police's attitude is or how it becomes. He said he started becoming like that and he didn't want to. He despises how they are now. Cops choose to be cops like child molesters choose to be child molesters. We can hate them for what they choose to do. No one forced them to choose to ruin lives just like no one forced them to molest children.
I'm not talking about child molesters or murderers. I'm talking about generalizing about everyone of a specific legitimate occupation. Comparing cops to child molesters is kind of extreme. Not all cops are good, obviously, but neither are all cops evil or out to "ruin lives" and be "big dicks." Just like your good friend who used to be a narcotics officer -- you said he's a great guy. Doesn't that kind of go with my position here, that not all cops / narcotics officers are evil? Your friend became one (even though he eventually quit) and he wasn't evil.
I don't think comparing them to child molesters is extreme enough. Child molesters are sick in the head. They have a sickness. There is something wrong with them. Cops probably do too, but you cannot even compare the number of lives damaged by a single molester to the number of lives destroyed and ended by a single officer, not to mention the families ripped apart.
I didn't know him when he was a LEO. I could never ever imagine him as one. It is mind boggling to me. As I said, that is why he quit after working for the department after a very small number of years.
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I don't think comparing them to child molesters is extreme enough. Child molesters are sick in the head. They have a sickness. There is something wrong with them. Cops probably do too, but you cannot even compare the number of lives damaged by a single molester to the number of lives destroyed and ended by a single officer, not to mention the families ripped apart.
I didn't know him when he was a LEO. I could never ever imagine him as one. It is mind boggling to me. As I said, that is why he quit after working for the department after a very small number of years.
Well, I disagree a bit, but certainly respect your opinion. Carry on, my friend. :)
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I don't think comparing them to child molesters is extreme enough. Child molesters are sick in the head. They have a sickness. There is something wrong with them. Cops probably do too, but you cannot even compare the number of lives damaged by a single molester to the number of lives destroyed and ended by a single officer, not to mention the families ripped apart.
I didn't know him when he was a LEO. I could never ever imagine him as one. It is mind boggling to me. As I said, that is why he quit after working for the department after a very small number of years.
Well, I disagree a bit, but certainly respect your opinion. Carry on, my friend. :)
Something a cop could/would never do, respect the opinion of a good natured, kind hearted and caring drug user/dealer. Thank you Scout.
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Something a cop could/would never do, respect the opinion of a good natured, kind hearted and caring drug user/dealer. Thank you Scout.
Our opinions and worldviews all depend on -and are formed by- our experiences in life. It's totally understandable then that we don't all share the same opinion on every matter! Doesn't mean either of us is wrong. (so thank you, too, for your respect!)
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Our opinions and worldviews all depend on -and are formed by- our experiences in life. It's totally understandable then that we don't all share the same opinion on every matter! Doesn't mean either of us is wrong. (so thank you, too, for your respect!)
Perfectly said scout... and to clarify my comments earlier for y'all, I was not suggesting for a second that EVERY cop is a great guy and should be given pats on the back for such a good job.
Another simple truth I thought was this...
In any group of people, there will be those who are corrupt, and those who are good. You can't take the whole group and generalize about their morality based simply on their occupation. That's not how things work.
So JNH, I do not pretend to understand your view but yes I do respect it. Your life and mine are probably planets apart mate.
But to pinkapples88, your view I do get... and don't like. Singling out any group of people, no matter what YOUR experience with them is, and saying...
I do honestly hope they all die, in the most gruesome and painful way possible.
... is seriously fucked up dude. Where I come from they call that genocide, and last time I checked that was not a popular topic ANYWHERE.
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I think you are misdirecting your hatred to the wrong people. LEO are not the ones who create the laws, they are the ones that we pay to uphold it. Ultimately, we elect the people who create the laws we have, and while we may not all agree with all of them it is impossible to please everyone.
There has to be some authority. There has to be someone to uphold the rules of the game we play everyday called life. Without LEO, there would be complete chaos and your life would be worse off without them. There would be no security. It would be insane.
Just think for a minute what you are advocating. I don't know what your intention was by posting the addresses of those LEO's but I cannot imagine it was anything good. They choose a job which will allow them to make ends meet, something that we all struggle to do. I know that their job may infringe upon your beliefs but that is why you have the power to change the laws that you have quarry with. No offense but your armchair vigilantism makes you less of a man than the cops that you speak so low of.
My experiences with LEO has always been fair. I treat them with the respect I expect them to give me. Many times in fact I have been allowed to go free when I should have been arrested. They are not there to fuck you over unless you have done something which society has collectively decided you should be fucked for.
Police did not make the policies you have beef with. Take it up with your lawmakers and re-evaluate your agenda because quite frankly its immature and pointless.
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They chose the job and they choose to act how they do. Never once have I met a decent cop. I hate a strong hatred for pretty much all governments too...
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Child molesters are just doing their jobs, so are thieves, robbers and every criminal. Without criminals, we wouldn't have these cops and they wouldn't have their precious badges and the jobs that they love so much. I don't like thieves, robbers and child molesters either.
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Have to agree with sekure, white, heat, scout here! lol :o
I spent 18 months in prison for something I did not do. The CUNTS who put me there WERE CUNTS!!!
However, I've also had other cops turn a blind eye or be as 'minimal' as possible (e.g. got pulled over for speeding, cop realizes it was a genuine mistake on my behalf, re the speed limit, so instead of a $250 speeding fine, he give me a $45 fine for no registration label affixed! sweet!) He was just doing his job.
Another time my friends car was stolen while it was in my care! Told the cops, they told me where the car was 12 hours later, which I most likely never would have found without them!
As I said, I'm not a fan of authority, however, and power corrupts and "can" corrupt cops BUT I HAVE Met some very cool cops, who I imagine off duty they wouldn't give a fuck what I did drugwise, except drink drive, or drive while affected, which is fair enough.
Victimless "crimes" are not 'crimes' IMO, but driving drunk often has other victims than the driver which aint fair. driving is a priveledge, not a right, and people should respect where they are and what they're doing when they drive. Drugged/drunk driver are dangerous on another level.
I'm lucky enough to be alive after 3 bad m/c accidents with cars and in all of those the drivers were at fault...and sober!
I think it's a very mistaken opinion that ALL COPS ARE BAD!!!
m m m motek ;)
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Have to agree with sekure, white, heat, scout here! lol :o
I spent 18 months in prison for something I did not do. The CUNTS who put me there WERE CUNTS!!!
However, I've also had other cops turn a blind eye or be as 'minimal' as possible (e.g. got pulled over for speeding, cop realizes it was a genuine mistake on my behalf, re the speed limit, so instead of a $250 speeding fine, he give me a $45 fine for no registration label affixed! sweet!) He was just doing his job.
Another time my friends car was stolen while it was in my care! Told the cops, they told me where the car was 12 hours later, which I most likely never would have found without them!
As I said, I'm not a fan of authority, however, and power corrupts and "can" corrupt cops BUT I HAVE Met some very cool cops, who I imagine off duty they wouldn't give a fuck what I did drugwise, except drink drive, or drive while affected, which is fair enough.
Victimless "crimes" are not 'crimes' IMO, but driving drunk often has other victims than the driver which aint fair. driving is a priveledge, not a right, and people should respect where they are and what they're doing when they drive. Drugged/drunk driver are dangerous on another level.
I'm lucky enough to be alive after 3 bad m/c accidents with cars and in all of those the drivers were at fault...and sober!
I think it's a very mistaken opinion that ALL COPS ARE BAD!!!
m m m motek ;)
You don't reside in the United States of America either...
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"You don't reside in the United States of America either..."
No matey and thank fuck for that! we do feel really sad to see the ways things are going in the US ...
I kinda shudderr to think how things are going to pan out over the next few years there! brrrrr!
m m m motek
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gets any worse i'll be moving into your basement motek!!
LOL
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by the way, did ya still need that loan? woke up a bit ago to take my meds, prolly be crashin for another hour or so...
m m m motek....if ya still need that just lemme know :)
Peace & Hugs,
ChemCat O0
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If anyone wants to help fight our enemy and brig LEO to its knees without directly attacking them, the best way is by taking acid ::)
and sell it as cheap as you can to people who want it and they will see the light then once our movement has grown in number and strength we shall directly attack the system and hang those responsible for their crimes against humanity.
Always good advice from Mr Roberts and I will follow DPR's wishes to a 'T'
Long live SR
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It's been over two years and Silk Road is still here. We've had setbacks here and there, but I'm happy to say that mostly we've thrived. Everyone who's taken their security seriously, and many who haven't remain free and prosperous despite the wishes of the powerful law enforcement agencies that target us. It is easy to start feeling confident, invincible, even cocky.
I encourage you to look for this in yourself and refrain from acting on it. A thread was recently started in this forum publishing the personal information of LE agents that users had a particular grudge with. Let me make this abundantly clear:
We are not strong enough to attack our enemies directly!
If we start organizing attacks from this forum against LE agents, it will become exponentially harder to resist their attacks and keep Silk Road alive. This task is hard enough as it is, please don't make it any harder!
The mere existence and survival of SR is an indirect attack on LE whether they like it or not. I'm sure they're pretty pissed about that but don't have the authority to pull out the big guns. If direct attacks happened on LE I'm sure they would have the green light to use whatever means necessary to bring SR down. Sometimes we forget that if given the permission the NSA could bring SR down to it's knees but to be honest I think the government has bigger problems to deal with such as China stealing top secret military plans(lol).
I think that would be the ultimate goal if I was in a position of authority in SR would be to make it as unperishable as possible which I think has been done very effectively proven by the mere existence of SR today.
Some people use SR to get their drugs and get high and in that they are thankful for but in the grand scheme of things SR is so much more. It's given the freedom and rights back to the people to do as they wish with their bodies. We are all adults here and we should have the freedom to choose what to put in our bodies as long as we don't harm others. No longer having to turn to buying drugs from the street I think a site like SR actually helps LE whether they like to admit or not. One example of their losing war on drugs is the crackdown on meth labs in Colorado. Last year there was an unusually large amount of meth labs there with noob cooks getting injured and what not. After a long police crackdown they're almost non-existant but yet the amount of meth on the streets has increased. Now instead of the meth being made in the city it's coming in from large Mexican drug cartels. LE will never win this war as shown by the past and I think DPR and his team are actually helping clean up the streets. Nobel peace prize anyone? =)
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Never get the big head! Great advice to live by, thanks DPR for errthang you do ;D
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Sun Tzu's The Art of War should be required reading for everyone
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asking silkroaders to read something is a lot to ask.
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My method:
Stay as low key as possible, don't make any noise, only order from well established vendors (sorry new vendors, it's just safer for me), only order small amounts, and stick with the safest bets - oh, and never, ever speak of personal info anywhere in onionland. My Tor/SR/whatever identity is completely unique and separated from my real self and my clearnet identity. TylerDurdensPenis is like my split personality that has a secret life. He's probably peeing in some high dollar soup right now.
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Understood Boss.
I don't know what you understood by DPR's post but what I understood was don't antagonise LE and yet you've filled this thread with posts guaranteed to antagonise them.
Whether or not you're right is beside the point.
This subject seriously needs to be dropped!
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Understood Boss.
I don't know what you understood by DPR's post but what I understood was don't antagonise LE and yet you've filled this thread with posts guaranteed to antagonise them.
Whether or not you're right is beside the point.
This subject seriously needs to be dropped!
I understood not to share LEO's personal information. I don't have to hide my views and beliefs. I am not trying to antagonize anymore. I am defending my strong beliefs and sharing my views. This subject was dropped yesterday pal.
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Then you're reading the message too narrowly.
I respect you're right to express your views but in this case it is the same thing as antagonising LE.
And we live in different time zones mate.
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Then you're reading the message too narrowly.
You read this one single post by DPR without seeing WHY he posted it. He pretty much posted it because of me, because I randomly posted two officer's personal information in a law enforcement thread and argued with the mods a bit and the mods got clarification from DPR. Then he made this thread and directed me to it.
http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=168307.msg1200111#msg1200111
I respect you're right to express your views
Thank you.
And we live in different time zones mate.
Touché
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ANY time chem cat, if you get here we'll work something out...it's pretty small :o l
Hey goldenrod, I dont think by jack expressing his "personal opinion" about hating the police, is especially antagonistic towards the police.
And the other posts DPR was referring to were removed.
The BEST part, imo, is that Jack was cool enough to remove them AND tell us it was his mistake, which helps coz again, as DPR said, "it's OUR community" and "we" make it. The more folks realize this, the better ;)
I'd LOVE to see this place get better, it's already great, but it 'could get better' ;)
m m m motek x
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Hey goldenrod, I dont think by jack expressing his "personal opinion" about hating the police, is especially antagonistic towards the police.
You could well be right, you've obviously been around here a lot longer than me.
But my understanding of being cautious means that we shouldn't just be 'especially' antagonistic. We shouldn't be antagonistic at all
But it's like they say 'Britain and America....two countries separated by a common language!'.
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he he yeah! No worries, I agree antagonism is best avoided, but we're all new here really, as the place changes and every cyberattck it survives to trade again makes us stronger! lol
TSR is an adventure of sorts, I'm just sorry I did come here 2 years ago when I first heard about it in another forun
"But it's like they say 'Britain and America....two countries separated by a common language!'."
and even more so, Oz! ;) Great place!
m m m motek
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mmmmmmotek ;D ;D
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i read that thread......posting addy, ssn, dob's, and agency s/n's and passwords.....NOT COOL. we need to keep this a happy place. :)
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Just Curious:
with all encrypted TOR messages, etc, how on Earth do you know who's LE and who is not?
And if they were LE, and some crazed and deranged "freedom fighter" were to kill them etc, could you just imagine?
The info wasn't from Silk Road. I have hundreds of thousands of law enforcement officers information and backups of law enforcement databases.
I'm beginning to think that's no avatar at all... That's a damn head shot! You can't fool me Big Willy
Big Willy, that's what the pornstars call me heh heh heh
http://torimagesbp2vt3u.onion/i/zTys.jpg
LOL. You just look, so.... comfortable 8)
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It's hard to believe someone actually thought this was OK. I've noticed a lot of tough talking gangster wannabes in these forums, I take it for what it is-talk.
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last time I checked this was a place where drug dealers hang out.
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If your implying that being a drug dealer makes you a tough guy, you are sorely mistaking friend. Most the dealers I know IRL are hippy like, easy going people, who don't want to hurt anyone, even cops, particularly because they would like to continue doing business(refer to OP's point). Now, I'm not sure how many cartel or mafia members there are lurking these forums, if you are one, please forgive me(and please don't kill me!).
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might wanna get the sarcasm detector looked at.
:D
Oooh! Yes sir, that bit of sarcasm went right over my head. Forgive me kind sir, I can be a full on idiot at times,actually, more often then I would like to come to terms with. +1 and positive vibes being sent your direction.
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I recently did an interview where I was asked what I considered were the greatest threats to SR users. I gave the usual answers, but later I realised that there was one I missed. This post, and StExo's sticky analysis, confirm it.
When SR began, it was small and only the most tech-savvy and security-conscious people accessed it. But in the past two years, it has been given so much mainstream media (yes, I realise that includes some of my articles) and has become so simple to access, looks so professional and is discussed so openly, I think a bunch of people honestly believe they're not doing anything "that" illegal. After all, if it were that bad, it wouldn't be so easy to do, right? It's a bit like downloading stuff from Pirate Bay - technically you can go to jail for it, but how often does that happen, right?
Either that, or people are deluded that it is "click-and-go" safe and they don't REALLY need to go to the extra effort to learn PGP or take other precautions that were once no-brainers. After all, if it were dangerous, heaps more people would have been caught. LE are powerless, right? You can taunt them and there's nothing they can do!
But drug use is much less accepted by the mainstream majority than pirating the odd movie. And using the site is only 'safe' when all of the anonymity precautions are rigorously adhered to. And whilst LE may direct resources elsewhere when a market is operating quietly and off the radar, they will throw a ton at it if you start sticking your finger up at them.
I think we will be seeing a lot more arrests due to these two types of complacency from users. Or the security-conscious will simply migrate somewhere safer.
Anyone who thinks our enemies are sitting idly by twiddling their thumbs totally befuddled about what to do re SR is living in a fantasy world. This place is a massive fuck you to the systems of coercion and control so poking the bear is definitely NOT a good idea.
With regards to people finding this place and having absolutely ZERO consideration for their personal safety, well all I can say is that I have been absolutely flabbergasted by some of the things I have seen in my time here.
The saying "just because you can doesn't mean you should" has never rung more true in the sense of downloading Tor and finding a URL. There have been some high profile cases of people busted in AU for SR related activity but in reality it was their IRL activities that brought them to the attention of LEO.
I fear we will be seeing a lot more cases of people coming into contact with the CJS as so many people treat this place like eBay doing incredible things like creating market site accounts under their real name and/or user names they use for other internet accounts that pop up in a Google searches.
... and that's just for starters... the list just gets scarier as demonstrated in StExo's thread so I'll leave it there for now.
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If your implying that being a drug dealer makes you a tough guy, you are sorely mistaking friend. Most the dealers I know IRL are hippy like, easy going people, who don't want to hurt anyone, even cops, particularly because they would like to continue doing business(refer to OP's point). Now, I'm not sure how many cartel or mafia members there are lurking these forums, if you are one, please forgive me(and please don't kill me!).
^^^ OMG LOLzzzz
Great advice, Captain Roberts. 2 years is amazing 8) I still wonder if I'm dreaming sometimes... thanks for your continued support DPR and Mods! VIVA LA ROAD!
Jack: I love you and your avatar/selfie pic :P I understand your feelings toward LE... totally. But try love instead of hate. Focus your energy into praising your friends, family etc for their good choices instead of hating people for their (in your opinion) bad choices. Or do whatever you want... but it works for me :)
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It's been over two years and Silk Road is still here. We've had setbacks here and there, but I'm happy to say that mostly we've thrived. Everyone who's taken their security seriously, and many who haven't remain free and prosperous despite the wishes of the powerful law enforcement agencies that target us. It is easy to start feeling confident, invincible, even cocky.
I encourage you to look for this in yourself and refrain from acting on it. A thread was recently started in this forum publishing the personal information of LE agents that users had a particular grudge with. Let me make this abundantly clear:
We are not strong enough to attack our enemies directly!
If we start organizing attacks from this forum against LE agents, it will become exponentially harder to resist their attacks and keep Silk Road alive. This task is hard enough as it is, please don't make it any harder!
*** +1!! I know we have all wanted to "fuck the police!!", but as it's quoted, we're not strong enough, nor do you want to tempt the fates! They have time, money, and anything esle they want, yes, legal or not! No reason to go down that path.
There will be a time and place, but not here, not now!
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agreed - you can't end a war with more war, we're the peace here in this world, fighting the chains that were held in, silk road is about rebellion, fighting the oppression is our mission, our tactics are defensive
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To win a war without fighting is the best way to defeat your enemies!
- JWM
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Posting addresses sets a very dangerous precedent. Once it becomes acceptable to do this we are all fair game.
Turning against all LEO is creating a larger enemy to fight. No not only are you fighting against corruption your fighting against the institution itself thus undermining a large portion of society that relies on it.
Your avatar is very fitting. Change your ways or your days are limited.
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Yes, an attack on LE would make for a very bad NEWS story. :-[
For the record, I was one of them he is talking about and it was not an attack. I merely posted the personal information of some LEOs. I have since stopped.
you should be shitlisted. you "merely" posted info.. did you? you stupid little faggot.
oh you egotisicle little snotrag.
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well jack hoff needs some neg karma a lesson, even if you area typical brownnose to him. just because he posts allot on here doesnt mean he can fuck with the system.. neg the faggot.. or neg me if you brownnose hoff
everybody neg jack hoff put him in his place for a few hours huh?
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as of recently ive notice the silk road has a huge "turd in the punch bowl" situation. many new, stupid and reckless members intelligent enough to install tor and get phishing filter link first try.
winner winner chicken dinner....seriously, be happy the police no longer fuck with you, now be happy with that fact so it stays that way.
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As you wish...
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The dreaded pirate himself has spoken. Go with it.
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I agree, JacknHoff you are formally renamed Jackoff, Shut up with your incoherent illogical drug fueled ramblings will you.
You spend far far, too much time here.
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I agree, JacknHoff you are formally renamed Jackoff, Shut up with your incoherent illogical drug fueled ramblings will you.
You spend far far, too much time here.
I haven't said a word in this thread for four days and I posted those two addresses a week ago. I didn't need to know that you can't pass an English comprehension test and failed at getting your high school diploma. There are always some failures everywhere that you go in life so cheer up and don't kill yourself pal. :)
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I agree, JacknHoff you are formally renamed Jackoff, Shut up with your incoherent illogical drug fueled ramblings will you.
You spend far far, too much time here.
I haven't said a word in this thread for four days and I posted those two addresses a week ago. I didn't need to know that you can't pass an English comprehension test and failed at getting your high school diploma. There are always some failures everywhere that you go in life so cheer up and don't kill yourself pal. :)
Would you mind... some people are trying to cross the bridge toll free... ;D
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AGREE AGREE AGREEE
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DPR is right, best to just wish the cops well, in fighting the crimes like rape and murder, which I'm sure most would sooner do that bust people here for selling what the police know will always be around and always make them look bad as they concentrate too much resources into drugs and litle proecting the people from real crimes.
I also does not help when drug dealers form gangs and shoot each other. Silk Road, is at least not a road in which we are ducking bulles or being harrassed by rip off merchants.
Silk Road also cuts down the odds of people being sold something nasty. Most buyers here wish the police no harm. We all mosly have families, we all want to get home after work and see them.
The police also creae mistrust when hey pick on the young whose only 'crime' is often smoking a joint.
I think anyone thinking of attacking the police should think again. SR is no here to do that and its pointless.
As the character Omar off the street said "Its all in the game" :) (That series, was an American cop and drug dealers show. Omar was the black guy who robbed other drug dealers!
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Don't neg Jack N Hoff!
The guy gets enough shit from capitol Hill(ary)
Have some fucking respect you fuckin' cunt.
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I agree, JacknHoff you are formally renamed Jackoff, Shut up with your incoherent illogical drug fueled ramblings will you.
You spend far far, too much time here.
Yes, I agree that he does spend way too much time here. What's up with those sluts and the pool? Must just be talk. I mean DPR himself had to step in and eloquently tell you you're an ass, yet you are still acting pompous. C'mon man!
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We all know Jack N Hoff is a drug addled thirty something, pain killer addicted, CP viewing self loathing piece of shit.
Let him take solace in his sanctuary you mean motherfuckers. This place allows his ego to flourish in a way his aging, crusted body could never dream of in his physical reality.
Dare I say it?
I do, I do.
Let him live.
Just let him live.
ALTERNATE THEORY:
But for real Jack, I think you're a fucking cop.
And I want everyone to think about that for a real hard second.
This motherfucker makes more posts than anyone, braggadocio claims of stashes/former comrades in prison, etc- etc - For what? Why are you trying to convince anyone that you're anything? You fit the stereotypical mold of a LEA trying to garner a groups trust. And then to pull some shit like posting LEO officers information... WTF? Just seriously. WTF.
Sounds like when the FBI goes and rouses up some 20 something year old FOB moron to blow some shit up with (fake) bombs they sold him.
I would be very weary to be the first person to order from the official Jack N Hoff vendor account.
Which is surprisingly only doing bulk.
How convenient.
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don't get cocky, loose lips sink ships, ect. Good point. :)
words to live by
FIRST RULE OF SR IS YOU DONT TALK ABOUT SR
THE SECVOND RULE IS YOU DONT TALK ABOUT SR
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But for real Jack, I think you're a fucking cop.
And I want everyone to think about that for a real hard second.
Since you're new, I guess you don't sound that asinine with your assumptions. I can understand but you should know that I have multiple successful vendor accounts and I sell cheaper to my non-SR customers through email. Raz thought the same thing but then I informed him that I am more than one respectable vendor. Maybe you should take a look at these two pictures from a couple of my vendor account history pages that I posted on June sixth. ::)
Lim is a fucking LEO Raz.
Lol, Lim is too young to be LEO. I actually thought YOU were a narc Jack (still do), but I never held it against you b/c you prolly wouldn't turn me in.
Piece, Love, and Fuck Haters.
Then you better hope that you've never ordered from me. ;D
http://torimagesbp2vt3u.onion/i/NEV8.jpg
No freaking way! ??? Surely that is worth another cookie. + 2 Jack. Awesome!!! BOOOOOM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :o :o
The quiet-spoken narc vendor strikes again... ::)
This thread is unbelievable....
Piece, Love, and Fuck Haters.
You didn't know I had vendor accounts? ;D
I don't feel comfortable advertising from this account for pretty obvious reasons.
http://torimagesbp2vt3u.onion/i/4Ex1.jpg
I'm not bragging about anything. I'm just providing information and trying to help the community pal. I'm actually expanding operations and opening more vendor accounts, one under this username. I don't blame you for jumping to conclusions though. It's always better to be paranoid than reckless.
You don't know how many members that I have helped behind the scenes here too. Here is a PM from a vendor that I helped and that wouldn't be in operation without my help.
http://xqz3u5drneuzhaeo.onion/users/qicpic/files/1xx.jpg ;)
I must be like a cop that broke bad and loves to sell drugs, help vendors and drug buyers. ::) That must be it! ;D
Don't be ashamed or feel like a fool though Kenny, you're just new around here. I don't blame you man. :)
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Ain't new to this Jacky boy.
Just new to being loud as fuck. ;D
And again, the slew of screenshots does nothing but to prove your eagerness to please.
When I start seeing vendors defend you personally, then we'll have something tangible.
Won't we.
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It's been over two years and Silk Road is still here. We've had setbacks here and there, but I'm happy to say that mostly we've thrived. Everyone who's taken their security seriously, and many who haven't remain free and prosperous despite the wishes of the powerful law enforcement agencies that target us. It is easy to start feeling confident, invincible, even cocky.
I encourage you to look for this in yourself and refrain from acting on it. A thread was recently started in this forum publishing the personal information of LE agents that users had a particular grudge with. Let me make this abundantly clear:
We are not strong enough to attack our enemies directly!
If we start organizing attacks from this forum against LE agents, it will become exponentially harder to resist their attacks and keep Silk Road alive. This task is hard enough as it is, please don't make it any harder!
I couldn't agree with you more DRP. If it ever comes to forceful actions against LE then why not allow them be the first to make the move. Certainly would look much better on our part. Nevertheless, You have created the best thing to happen for the struggle against the so called "War on Drugs". We do, Just as you have stressed here, Need to refrain from that "Cocky" egotistical thought process. We are few in numbers and can get much more done by Doing things the way you have made it possible for us to currently do. Thank you for the post DPR, It is much needed :)
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Ain't new to this Jacky boy.
Just new to being loud as fuck. ;D
And again, the slew of screenshots does nothing but to prove your eagerness to please.
When I start seeing vendors defend you personally, then we'll have something tangible.
Won't we.
Vendors would have to know his vendor name(s).
Wouldn't they.
Jackass.... ::)
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Ain't new to this Jacky boy.
Just new to being loud as fuck. ;D
And again, the slew of screenshots does nothing but to prove your eagerness to please.
When I start seeing vendors defend you personally, then we'll have something tangible.
Won't we.
Vendors would have to know his vendor name(s).
Wouldn't they.
Jackass.... ::)
Since TurpenT revived this thread, I will go ahead and post this for Kenny to see. Oh look, a vendor publicly defending me personally. ::)
Looks awesome Jack!
Anyone interested in this offer should know that Jack is a stand up dude, has taught me more than pretty much anyone on SR, and is also a genuinely good guy. Anyone needing methylone should feel extremely at ease and order with confidence!
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Ain't new to this Jacky boy.
Just new to being loud as fuck. ;D
And again, the slew of screenshots does nothing but to prove your eagerness to please.
When I start seeing vendors defend you personally, then we'll have something tangible.
Won't we.
Vendors would have to know his vendor name(s).
Wouldn't they.
Jackass.... ::)
LOL. YOU DUMB FUCK. Hilarious.
The joke was that Jack would have to sign into one of his vendor accounts and defend himself... thus exposing himself/alternate identities.
'Jackass' 8)
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You motherfuckers' are too easy to get riled up ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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You motherfuckers' are too easy to get riled up ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
My jimmies remain unrustled :-*
http://torimagesbp2vt3u.onion/i/5swV.png
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I know I threw an 's' on the 'motherfucker' - but wasn't really directing that towards you Jack.
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You motherfuckers' are too easy to get riled up ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
My jimmies remain unrustled :-*
http://torimagesbp2vt3u.onion/i/5swV.png
Another avatar for ace me thinks :P
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Yes people, it is better of not to piss lea off anymore as they will be pissed wi sr as it is