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Discussion => Off topic => Topic started by: masterblaster on April 24, 2013, 04:31 am

Title: And Atlantis rose from the depths and washed away the road
Post by: masterblaster on April 24, 2013, 04:31 am
[CENSORED: scam link]rky4es5q.onion

Faster,
Cheaper,
Functional
Stable

So long road, we wont miss your 2 minutes page loads and frequent crashes. Hey, why are you all reading this, is the road down again?
Title: Re: And Atlantis rose from the depths and washed away the road
Post by: Mcrad on April 24, 2013, 05:14 am
the roads not down anymore but hey, did you say faster and cheaper. with stable and function able in the same sentence. let me check this out
Title: Re: And Atlantis rose from the depths and washed away the road
Post by: aussiepp on April 24, 2013, 05:17 am
I made an account recently.
Is there way to sort domestic items?
Title: Re: And Atlantis rose from the depths and washed away the road
Post by: Chaosforpeace on April 24, 2013, 05:20 am
It is more expensive.

Chaos
Title: Re: And Atlantis rose from the depths and washed away the road
Post by: Mcrad on April 24, 2013, 05:23 am
It is more expensive.

Chaos

I just had this exact same thought not even 5 seconds ago after creating an account, fuck this THE ROAD RULES!
Title: Re: And Atlantis rose from the depths and washed away the road
Post by: masterblaster on April 24, 2013, 05:26 am
It is more expensive.

Chaos

SR Commission:
Quote
10% of the first $50
8.5% of $50 - 150
6% of $150 - 300
3% of $300 - 500
2% of $500 - 1000
1.5% for everything over $1000"

Atlantis Commission:
Quote
USD Value    Commission as a percentage
Value less than or equal to $50   6%
Value less than or equal to $150   5.5%
Value less than or equal to $300   5%
Value less than or equal to $500   2%
Value less than or equal to $1000   1.5%
Value greater than $1000   1%
Title: Re: And Atlantis rose from the depths and washed away the road
Post by: kmfkewm on April 24, 2013, 05:43 am
It doesn't have so much instability because it doesn't have users. That is not the fault of SR, but a limitation of how much Tor can scale. If SR wants to fix this issue one thing they can do is use two different .onion domains that point to the same thing. When one becomes overloaded the other will still work. That is what Freenode did once they couldn't scale with the amount of users using their IRC server over the hidden service anymore.
Title: Re: And Atlantis rose from the depths and washed away the road
Post by: T5 on April 24, 2013, 06:29 am
Hmmmm

This kind of competition would only work in the case where SilkRoad would go down permanently. I've created a test account, the layout is okay, but really there doesn't seem to have much traffic. However, one thing I would get excited about is the Litecoin implementation.

As a Litecoin lover I would love to see such an implementation on the SilkRoad.
Title: Re: And Atlantis rose from the depths and washed away the road
Post by: quken on April 24, 2013, 07:06 am
With time it will get more and more users. And maybe in a near future it can function as a temporary/secondary marketplace for silkroad if it's down for maintainance a longer period. A new thing is they have implemented bitcoin payment now, not only litecoins anymore.
Title: Re: And Atlantis rose from the depths and washed away the road
Post by: xpat on April 24, 2013, 07:13 am
Anyone have any success stories/ successful transactions from Atlantis?
Title: Re: And Atlantis rose from the depths and washed away the road
Post by: AnonymousAddict on April 24, 2013, 07:53 am
if u guys look a few threads down  u will see where i brought this site up about a week ago.. i think its a copys of SR with more jazzzy look to it.. i dont see much good product to choose from, but u can tell some sr vendors are there though
Title: Re: And Atlantis rose from the depths and washed away the road
Post by: jase00 on April 24, 2013, 09:11 am
why do you guys think Atlantis is so fast now ? You guessed it, theres about 6 users on it.

Did you ever notice how when SR is down for a while and then its backup its really really fast.. then 30 minutes later its slow again once everyone figures out its back up......


I haven't checked out Atlantis in a couple of weeks but don't they only accept LTC or do they take BTC now ?
Title: Re: And Atlantis rose from the depths and washed away the road
Post by: worm11 on April 24, 2013, 09:16 am
As long as the road is alive this is where i will be. Atlantis sounds like it is run by fucking cops!
Title: Re: And Atlantis rose from the depths and washed away the road
Post by: White 0ut on April 24, 2013, 09:23 am
Here are some 'stats' from Atlantis. 

Not to mention the lack of MASS reviews. From a community.

Hiked up prices...

Any vendor can pad an account easily...

Dissociatives(3)
Opioids(19)
Prescription(27)
Psychedelics(32)
Stimulants(48)

I nearly have their inventory on my person at all times.


Get off their dick MB....

Their forums are a steaming pile of wallaby shit compared to ours.... 
Title: Re: And Atlantis rose from the depths and washed away the road
Post by: JezuzWazaMushroom on April 24, 2013, 09:37 am
I made an account, it takes Litecoin too, it's fast as fuck. It's an excellent looking site all round.

DPR's got serious competition coming, but I only deal with three vendors so I couldn't care less, however I do really like the setup and it's nice to see some healthy competition outside that disastrous BMR.

- JWM
Title: Re: And Atlantis rose from the depths and washed away the road
Post by: Mcrad on April 24, 2013, 09:39 am
yeah now just waiting for symbiosis and jor to make a vendor account over at atlantis and boom im there.

i mean i love the way the road is set up but i keep getting so many damn timeouts its driving me insane!
Title: Re: And Atlantis rose from the depths and washed away the road
Post by: JezuzWazaMushroom on April 24, 2013, 09:52 am
yeah now just waiting for symbiosis and jor to make a vendor account over at atlantis and boom im there.

i mean i love the way the road is set up but i keep getting so many damn timeouts its driving me insane!

Yeah, all we need is Asylum, Symbiosis and Tyl3r Durden and the Road will no longer be relevant for my needs.
Title: Re: And Atlantis rose from the depths and washed away the road
Post by: mnminc2010 on April 24, 2013, 09:56 am
im going to check it out but it took forever for me to even think about purchasing things here because i did weeks of research dpr keeps this site going and his team because of them ill stay but i wish the armory was still open is there any where that dose guns and is legit so i can devote weeks to research again
Title: Re: And Atlantis rose from the depths and washed away the road
Post by: mnminc2010 on April 24, 2013, 10:00 am
just opened it up holy sketch fuck that not even making log in
Title: Re: And Atlantis rose from the depths and washed away the road
Post by: Flobotzz on April 24, 2013, 10:05 am
I think top shelf is giving it a go.  *shrug*

[CENSORED: scam link]rky4es5q.onion/account/view/the_top_shelf
Title: Re: And Atlantis rose from the depths and washed away the road
Post by: JezuzWazaMushroom on April 24, 2013, 10:20 am
just opened it up holy sketch fuck that not even making log in

Clearly you haven't logged in, if you went by sketchy, look at SR's front page, you never judge a book by it's cover.

It could be to Silk Road what Facebook was to MySpace.

Do you think we'd all be saying it's good if it wasn't especially considering most of us here are SR veterans and love our Silk Road but time waits for no man and the addition of Litecoin's a huge plus in my book and something DPR should have implemented ages ago when people started asking for it?

The free market will determine the outcome but for now, I wouldn't hesitate to use it if my vendors were there. Hell, I don't even need SR TBH since I pay my vendors up front because they're always legit and I have a great relationship with them if SR went down permanently, I would never need to go anywhere else anyway as long as they're still around. This is why I recommend everyone make an extensive keyring of all your fav vendors just in case one day the road does go down for good which the way it's been lately wouldn't surprise me one bit.

- JWM
Title: Re: And Atlantis rose from the depths and washed away the road
Post by: White 0ut on April 24, 2013, 10:27 am
just opened it up holy sketch fuck that not even making log in

Clearly you haven't logged in, if you went by sketchy, look at SR's front page, you never judge a book by it's cover.

It could be to Silk Road what Facebook was to MySpace.

Do you think we'd all be saying it's good if it wasn't especially considering most of us here are SR veterans and love our Silk Road but time waits for no man and the addition of Litecoin's a huge plus in my book and something DPR should have implemented ages ago when people started asking for it?

The free market will determine the outcome but for now, I wouldn't hesitate to use it if my vendors were there. Hell, I don't even need SR TBH since I pay my vendors up front because they're always legit and I have a great relationship with them if SR went down permanently, I would never need to go anywhere else anyway as long as they're still around. This is why I recommend everyone make an extensive keyring of all your fav vendors just in case one day the road does go down for good which the way it's been lately wouldn't surprise me one bit.

- JWM

"Hell, I don't even need SR TBH since I pay my vendors up front because they're always legit"

Logout button is located at the top left center of your page....

"time waits for no man "

SR is back up....

"SR veterans"

I don't see scout, samesamebutdifferent, inigo, or DPR in this thread advising people to go to Atlantis.

Look if people want to go, let them. I could give two shits.

Clears up server space for me!

But what I don't encourage is you raping my communities forums for a foreign site that is unrelated to this one.
Title: Re: And Atlantis rose from the depths and washed away the road
Post by: canuckboy on April 24, 2013, 10:46 am
I'm an ass for trying a new site.  I feel like I just cheated on my wooman and my dick is still sticky wet on the way home.

But I think people are sketched about that site because its too well funded.   Truth is , the coder behind it is damn good at what he does. He implemented auto-finalize feature for a vendor OVERNIGHT. He just said, ok ill code it in.  And it was there.    This guy loves his vendors.

Ive been a part of many dot com start ups over the years and I gotta say there is money backing that site, or else the coder/admin(s) is rediculously talented.  I smell mob, mafia over there.  But to me that smells goooood. 

I can imagine the financial backers of these underground sites are same guys who funded many dot coms in the 90s. They're still at it, buying Internet real estate (they call it) and jockeying for positions in the market waaaay ahead of time.   And why not?  It's a damn good investment into the syndicates future.  Also, it keeps the young guys interested in mon business. It can get stale talking over Italian coffees and deli sandwiches at the gentlemens clubs.

I think it's a safe site and if not, why don't you use or trust TOR ?   It works. Just use it to protect yourself.

I hope they can get the site up here.   Or maybe look at some investors like I mentioned above.??  Buy some new servers, hire flunkies to your work and risk, sit back and smoke cigars. 

Tinkering with servers and shit is for the young guys.  There are people you can hire to do that shitty work for you.  Just thinking why do it yourself?   Trust nobody I guess .  Good move.
Title: Re: And Atlantis rose from the depths and washed away the road
Post by: Mcrad on April 24, 2013, 10:53 am
I'm an ass for trying a new site.  I feel like I just cheated on my wooman and my dick is still sticky wet on the way home.

But I think people are sketched about that site because its too well funded.   Truth is , the coder behind it is damn good at what he does. He implemented auto-finalize feature for a vendor OVERNIGHT. He just said, ok ill code it in.  And it was there.    This guy loves his vendors.

Ive been a part of many dot com start ups over the years and I gotta say there is money backing that site, or else the coder/admin(s) is rediculously talented.  I smell mob, mafia over there.  But to me that smells goooood. 

I can imagine the financial backers of these underground sites are same guys who funded many dot coms in the 90s. They're still at it, buying Internet real estate (they call it) and jockeying for positions in the market waaaay ahead of time.   And why not?  It's a damn good investment into the syndicates future.  Also, it keeps the young guys interested in mon business. It can get stale talking over Italian coffees and deli sandwiches at the gentlemens clubs.

I think it's a safe site and if not, why don't you use or trust TOR ?   It works. Just use it to protect yourself.

I hope they can get the site up here.   Or maybe look at some investors like I mentioned above.??  Buy some new servers, hire flunkies to your work and risk, sit back and smoke cigars. 

Tinkering with servers and shit is for the young guys.  There are people you can hire to do that shitty work for you.  Just thinking why do it yourself?   Trust nobody I guess .  Good move.

damn straight if its the mob/mafia that smells good. lets just see where this goes ehh:)
someone on another thread said they thought it might be something to do with the feds so i got super sketched about the whole thing and was about to delete my account, luckily i jumped over here and saw this:)
+1!!!
Title: Re: And Atlantis rose from the depths and washed away the road
Post by: JezuzWazaMushroom on April 24, 2013, 10:56 am
just opened it up holy sketch fuck that not even making log in

Clearly you haven't logged in, if you went by sketchy, look at SR's front page, you never judge a book by it's cover.

It could be to Silk Road what Facebook was to MySpace.

Do you think we'd all be saying it's good if it wasn't especially considering most of us here are SR veterans and love our Silk Road but time waits for no man and the addition of Litecoin's a huge plus in my book and something DPR should have implemented ages ago when people started asking for it?

The free market will determine the outcome but for now, I wouldn't hesitate to use it if my vendors were there. Hell, I don't even need SR TBH since I pay my vendors up front because they're always legit and I have a great relationship with them if SR went down permanently, I would never need to go anywhere else anyway as long as they're still around. This is why I recommend everyone make an extensive keyring of all your fav vendors just in case one day the road does go down for good which the way it's been lately wouldn't surprise me one bit.

- JWM

"Hell, I don't even need SR TBH since I pay my vendors up front because they're always legit"

Logout button is located at the top left center of your page....

"time waits for no man "

SR is back up....

"SR veterans"

I don't see scout, samesamebutdifferent, inigo, or DPR in this thread advising people to go to Atlantis.

Look if people want to go, let them. I could give two shits.

Clears up server space for me!

But what I don't encourage is you raping my communities forums for a foreign site that is unrelated to this one.

"Your community" who the fuck are you you inbred white trash semen guzzler?

Go choke on your boyfriends festering ballbag you clown, we're having a discussion on a PUBLIC forum and furthermore, why would they be in this thread talking about it, they're in others and furthermore have a vested interest in NOT talking about it.

You're a goon, FUCK OFF!

Much love - JWM
Title: Re: And Atlantis rose from the depths and washed away the road
Post by: goblin on April 24, 2013, 10:57 am
Competition can only be good, IF they are legit that is, and if they're not LE
Title: Re: And Atlantis rose from the depths and washed away the road
Post by: White 0ut on April 24, 2013, 11:11 am
just opened it up holy sketch fuck that not even making log in

Clearly you haven't logged in, if you went by sketchy, look at SR's front page, you never judge a book by it's cover.

It could be to Silk Road what Facebook was to MySpace.

Do you think we'd all be saying it's good if it wasn't especially considering most of us here are SR veterans and love our Silk Road but time waits for no man and the addition of Litecoin's a huge plus in my book and something DPR should have implemented ages ago when people started asking for it?

The free market will determine the outcome but for now, I wouldn't hesitate to use it if my vendors were there. Hell, I don't even need SR TBH since I pay my vendors up front because they're always legit and I have a great relationship with them if SR went down permanently, I would never need to go anywhere else anyway as long as they're still around. This is why I recommend everyone make an extensive keyring of all your fav vendors just in case one day the road does go down for good which the way it's been lately wouldn't surprise me one bit.

- JWM

"Hell, I don't even need SR TBH since I pay my vendors up front because they're always legit"

Logout button is located at the top left center of your page....

"time waits for no man "

SR is back up....

"SR veterans"

I don't see scout, samesamebutdifferent, inigo, or DPR in this thread advising people to go to Atlantis.

Look if people want to go, let them. I could give two shits.

Clears up server space for me!

But what I don't encourage is you raping my communities forums for a foreign site that is unrelated to this one.

"Your community" who the fuck are you you inbred white trash semen guzzler?

Go choke on your boyfriends festering ballbag you clown, we're having a discussion on a PUBLIC forum and furthermore, why would they be in this thread talking about it, they're in others and furthermore have a vested interest in NOT talking about it.

You're a goon, FUCK OFF!

Much love - JWM

"we're having a discussion on a PUBLIC forum"


Says the guy posting about rival sites in a sub-forum named "SILK ROAD DISCUSSION"


I am literally laughing at the level of irritation I just caused you...

From 73 words I typed.

I can only imagine how much I would work your small mind over physically and mentally Irl...
Title: Re: And Atlantis rose from the depths and washed away the road
Post by: JezuzWazaMushroom on April 24, 2013, 11:25 am
Again, see previous comment for your response!

You don't bother me, I just hate you.

- JWM
Title: Re: And Atlantis rose from the depths and washed away the road
Post by: canuckboy on April 24, 2013, 12:19 pm
I find it hard in this place to have a discussion without it turning into a fight or someone taking things to heart. It's just an open discussion.   No conspiracies, or mass exodus, nobody recommending anything.  Just saying stuff around the water cooler. Discussions are for getting it out and looking at different viewpoints and angles that others can share. 

I love everyone here. Lets have a group hug.
Title: Re: And Atlantis rose from the depths and washed away the road
Post by: Dipset420 on April 24, 2013, 01:56 pm
just opened it up holy sketch fuck that not even making log in

Clearly you haven't logged in, if you went by sketchy, look at SR's front page, you never judge a book by it's cover.

It could be to Silk Road what Facebook was to MySpace.

Do you think we'd all be saying it's good if it wasn't especially considering most of us here are SR veterans and love our Silk Road but time waits for no man and the addition of Litecoin's a huge plus in my book and something DPR should have implemented ages ago when people started asking for it?

The free market will determine the outcome but for now, I wouldn't hesitate to use it if my vendors were there. Hell, I don't even need SR TBH since I pay my vendors up front because they're always legit and I have a great relationship with them if SR went down permanently, I would never need to go anywhere else anyway as long as they're still around. This is why I recommend everyone make an extensive keyring of all your fav vendors just in case one day the road does go down for good which the way it's been lately wouldn't surprise me one bit.

- JWM

"Hell, I don't even need SR TBH since I pay my vendors up front because they're always legit"

Logout button is located at the top left center of your page....

"time waits for no man "

SR is back up....

"SR veterans"

I don't see scout, samesamebutdifferent, inigo, or DPR in this thread advising people to go to Atlantis.

Look if people want to go, let them. I could give two shits.

Clears up server space for me!

But what I don't encourage is you raping my communities forums for a foreign site that is unrelated to this one.

"Your community" who the fuck are you you inbred white trash semen guzzler?

Go choke on your boyfriends festering ballbag you clown, we're having a discussion on a PUBLIC forum and furthermore, why would they be in this thread talking about it, they're in others and furthermore have a vested interest in NOT talking about it.

You're a goon, FUCK OFF!

Much love - JWM

  I know sucking peoples cocks for doing there job that they get paid DAMN good money for lol.  This is an open market competition makes prices go down.  Loyalty lol when some one gives me shit for free is when I will worry about that.  I will stay on the road for my minimal purchases.  I just like seeing every drug under the sun able to ship to your door.  However the prices are asinine.  I cant afford 300 dollars a gram for dope all the time.  Once in a while is great, You can drive a few hours to a city and get 10 grams for 750. 

  I just hate how all these people talk like these drug dealers are there friends.  There here for money not to have a beer with you.
Title: Re: And Atlantis rose from the depths and washed away the road
Post by: BenJesuit on April 24, 2013, 03:13 pm
ummmm.... do they take BTC?
Title: Re: And Atlantis rose from the depths and washed away the road
Post by: kittenfluff on April 24, 2013, 03:24 pm
I find it hard in this place to have a discussion without it turning into a fight or someone taking things to heart. It's just an open discussion.   No conspiracies, or mass exodus, nobody recommending anything.  Just saying stuff around the water cooler. Discussions are for getting it out and looking at different viewpoints and angles that others can share. 

I love everyone here. Lets have a group hug.

Would give +1 if I could - was thinking much the same thing. Calm down. Breath. It's like having a bust up over whether coke or pepsi is better - different folks, different strokes mmmm-kay. Probably if Atlantis is good it will be just as successful as SR and will be healthy competition. There's enough drugs being bought and sold that it's not likely either will die-off unless they're crap. And I do like the idea of having a back-up market place; whether you primarily use Atlantis or SR the other will be there if you need it. Personally, I'm gonna stick with SR for now as it's more established, but I will look into Atlantis just in case...
Title: Re: And Atlantis rose from the depths and washed away the road
Post by: Dcompany on April 24, 2013, 06:01 pm
depending on demand i will be also listing on Atlantis in near future...right now though both SR and Atlantis seems unable to load

really sick of repetitive downtime on SR....have to spend a lot of time loading pages which is unacceptable...BMR has a lot more stable interface
Title: Re: And Atlantis rose from the depths and washed away the road
Post by: inspiredflight on April 24, 2013, 06:34 pm
ummmm.... do they take BTC?

They do indeed accept BTC.
Title: Re: And Atlantis rose from the depths and washed away the road
Post by: pkizenko98 on April 24, 2013, 06:40 pm
 

 


I nearly have their inventory on my person at all times.

 



lol
Title: Re: And Atlantis rose from the depths and washed away the road
Post by: colorblack on April 24, 2013, 06:50 pm
How are you all so certain Atlantis isn't LE?? Use your brains people. If something is too good to be true... then it IS too good to be true!

I'll stick to SR with it's down times and server issues any day
Title: Re: And Atlantis rose from the depths and washed away the road
Post by: Jack N Hoff on April 24, 2013, 06:57 pm
How are you all so certain Atlantis isn't LE?? Use your brains people. If something is too good to be true... then it IS too good to be true!

I'll stick to SR with it's down times and server issues any day
Even if it was LE, if you are doing everything properly (using pgp) then they arn't doing anything except helping people buy and sell drugs.
Title: Re: And Atlantis rose from the depths and washed away the road
Post by: mollyfan on April 24, 2013, 07:02 pm
I'm making an order on Atlantis, I will keep everyone posted if/when it arrives... Hopefully everything goes good... If you do NOT hear from me that means it was a setup... If it don't show u will still hear from me

I hope things work!
Title: Re: And Atlantis rose from the depths and washed away the road
Post by: Aurelius Venport on April 24, 2013, 07:28 pm
good for you no one cares.
Title: Re: And Atlantis rose from the depths and washed away the road
Post by: mollyfan on April 24, 2013, 07:39 pm
good for you no one cares.


Awww, did someone piss in ur wheaties? Mom didn't give u enough attention? Did ur dad touch you in ur special place when u were younger? Lol I was saying that for people who were wanting to buy there but don't know of anyone who has successfully ordered from there... Wasnt talking to u ya ignorant fuck! Now go crawl back into ur lonely hole and continue jacking off to Miley Cyrus pictures like ur used to doing u fuckin troll
Title: Re: And Atlantis rose from the depths and washed away the road
Post by: deep987 on April 24, 2013, 07:49 pm
I smell mob, mafia over there.  But to me that smells goooood.

Are you kidding? All of the BTC/LTC sitting in vendors/users/escrow accounts in the hands of the mob (hypothetical, of course I'm not accusing this site) and you trust them to not just take it and disappear at some point?

IF I were to want to use this site, which I don't, I would transfer in only the amount that I will be spending until it's gained a track record on par with SR.
Title: Re: And Atlantis rose from the depths and washed away the road
Post by: Creamsicle on April 24, 2013, 08:00 pm
I smell mob, mafia over there.  But to me that smells goooood.

Are you kidding? All of the BTC/LTC sitting in vendors/users/escrow accounts in the hands of the mob (hypothetical, of course I'm not accusing this site) and you trust them to not just take it and disappear at some point?

IF I were to want to use this site, which I don't, I would transfer in only the amount that I will be spending until it's gained a track record on par with SR.

Sicilians have been heavily involved in the cybersecurity world; specifically digital currencies (LR, WebMoney, etc), for some time now, some since inception. Some were created by them.
Title: Re: And Atlantis rose from the depths and washed away the road
Post by: daveh0we on April 24, 2013, 08:01 pm
I like Atlantis I've already got the URL memorized.     ATLANTIS Randpaul KentuckY 4EcstacieS 5Quit

atlantisRKY4es5q.onion

A vendor I used to know from here might be on there.  I remember when BMR had people pretending to be SR vendors. that was a mess.
Title: Re: And Atlantis rose from the depths and washed away the road
Post by: ProudCannabian on April 24, 2013, 08:02 pm
[CENSORED: scam link]rky4es5q.onion

Faster,
Cheaper,
Functional
Stable

So long road, we wont miss your 2 minutes page loads and frequent crashes. Hey, why are you all reading this, is the road down again?

 ::)

It's been pretty obvious since you started trolling here, you've not had any love for SR.
I think it's fairly obvious Masterbater is either associated with Atlantis or is too stupid to realize any server as popular as SR is will have load issues, attacks, and due to trailblazing this sector - growing pains.

Atlantis possibilities:

1)  Atlantis is an LE honeypot, hoping vendors will join and be "verified" or open themselves to their wonderfully de-anonymizing configured server.
2)  Atlantis is a scam.
3) Atlantis is legit, and copying SRs successes and learning somewhat from our growing pains.
4) Regardless of which of the above is correct, the timing of this DDoS, new amazing drug marketplace, and Master's trolling efforts over the last month, seem pretty well planned to create an exodus situation.

I sincerely hope it's #3, but figure it's likely #1 - and #4 is very possible.

If you are done here Master, please, allow me to show you the door....
Title: Re: And Atlantis rose from the depths and washed away the road
Post by: pkizenko98 on April 24, 2013, 08:03 pm
I find it hard in this place to have a discussion without it turning into a fight or someone taking things to heart. It's just an open discussion.   No conspiracies, or mass exodus, nobody recommending anything.  Just saying stuff around the water cooler. Discussions are for getting it out and looking at different viewpoints and angles that others can share. 

I love everyone here. Lets have a group hug.

Would give +1 if I could - was thinking much the same thing. Calm down. Breath. It's like having a bust up over whether coke or pepsi is better - different folks, different strokes mmmm-kay. Probably if Atlantis is good it will be just as successful as SR and will be healthy competition. There's enough drugs being bought and sold that it's not likely either will die-off unless they're crap. And I do like the idea of having a back-up market place; whether you primarily use Atlantis or SR the other will be there if you need it. Personally, I'm gonna stick with SR for now as it's more established, but I will look into Atlantis just in case...


Well I'll +1 you for +1'in.  Unfortunately there are many angry junkies running around the forums, remember this!
Title: Re: And Atlantis rose from the depths and washed away the road
Post by: nyancats on April 24, 2013, 08:07 pm
You guys sound pretty paranoid about Atlantis yet you trust SR dearly with your money and personal info? Doesn't make sense.

I've been an active seller there ever since they've opened, under different nick selling different thing though. I've had a few great transactions, everything went smooth.

I love the improvements they've made compared to SR - it's a LOT easier to list, search, they even have "verified" vendors (those who can prove their vendor account on SR). Atlantis staff is pretty responsive to requests for new functionality and such - for example, it was my request that got their fees lowered below SR's.

If there's anything I hate about SR it's how slow it is and how OLD their web UI is. Seeing what Atlantis has done, makes me wonder why isn't SR improving if it's raking in $millions every month. Why aren't they innovating? You seriously think that they don't have resources to speed up their site or protect from DDOS given how much money they have? It's just laziness I think. Maybe competition will finally cause them to get off their ass.

Don't get me wrong, I love SR and have been on it for years, but they CAN and SHOULD do better in some areas.

And yes, Atlantis forums are shit because nobody ever goes there. So what - Litecoin forums are also shit yet people buy and sell with it.

Atlantis vendor startup costs and fees are a _lot_ lower because that's the only way they'll attract users as a new market. They accept LTC. They have plenty of vendors with established feedback. Stop bitching people and go make an account and buy/sell something.

I can't believe you're bitching and whining like DPR has got his dick shoved far up your ass. You should be HAPPY that there's now TWO markets for US Govt to worry about shutting down; SR is no longer a single point of failure.
Title: Re: And Atlantis rose from the depths and washed away the road
Post by: pkizenko98 on April 24, 2013, 08:12 pm
I'm making an order on Atlantis, I will keep everyone posted if/when it arrives... Hopefully everything goes good... If you do NOT hear from me that means it was a setup... If it don't show u will still hear from me

I hope things work!


Finally, someone with some balls!
Title: Re: And Atlantis rose from the depths and washed away the road
Post by: nyancats on April 24, 2013, 08:27 pm
I'm making an order on Atlantis, I will keep everyone posted if/when it arrives... Hopefully everything goes good... If you do NOT hear from me that means it was a setup... If it don't show u will still hear from me

A vendor can easily be an undercover cop on SR and on Atlantis. I can be an undercover cop for all you know. You can be an undercover cop. In that way SR and Atlantis are exactly the same.

If you don't trust Atlantis-only vendors, go ahead and order from "verified" vendors - those are vendors that have proven that they have the same name on SR and Atlantis so you can check their feedback.
Title: Re: And Atlantis rose from the depths and washed away the road
Post by: goblin on April 24, 2013, 08:41 pm
You guys sound pretty paranoid about Atlantis yet you trust SR dearly with your money and personal info? Doesn't make sense.
So true.
Title: Re: And Atlantis rose from the depths and washed away the road
Post by: astor on April 24, 2013, 08:50 pm
Most of the cocaine on that site looks like pure baking soda, and the better looking stuff looks like stock images.
Title: Re: And Atlantis rose from the depths and washed away the road
Post by: astor on April 24, 2013, 08:55 pm
Just noticed they do server-side PGP encryption like BMR, which is a big security vulnerability.

Also, 20 character max passwords and pins? Really? At least they are all chars. A few weeks ago the pin could only be 4 digits. Seriously.

Title: Re: And Atlantis rose from the depths and washed away the road
Post by: pkizenko98 on April 24, 2013, 09:00 pm
You guys sound pretty paranoid about Atlantis yet you trust SR dearly with your money and personal info? Doesn't make sense.

I've been an active seller there ever since they've opened, under different nick selling different thing though. I've had a few great transactions, everything went smooth.

I love the improvements they've made compared to SR - it's a LOT easier to list, search, they even have "verified" vendors (those who can prove their vendor account on SR). Atlantis staff is pretty responsive to requests for new functionality and such - for example, it was my request that got their fees lowered below SR's.

If there's anything I hate about SR it's how slow it is and how OLD their web UI is. Seeing what Atlantis has done, makes me wonder why isn't SR improving if it's raking in $millions every month. Why aren't they innovating? You seriously think that they don't have resources to speed up their site or protect from DDOS given how much money they have? It's just laziness I think. Maybe competition will finally cause them to get off their ass.

Don't get me wrong, I love SR and have been on it for years, but they CAN and SHOULD do better in some areas.

And yes, Atlantis forums are shit because nobody ever goes there. So what - Litecoin forums are also shit yet people buy and sell with it.

Atlantis vendor startup costs and fees are a _lot_ lower because that's the only way they'll attract users as a new market. They accept LTC. They have plenty of vendors with established feedback. Stop bitching people and go make an account and buy/sell something.

I can't believe you're bitching and whining like DPR has got his dick shoved far up your ass. You should be HAPPY that there's now TWO markets for US Govt to worry about shutting down; SR is no longer a single point of failure.

Sensible sound argument!
Title: Re: And Atlantis rose from the depths and washed away the road
Post by: nyancats on April 24, 2013, 09:08 pm
Just noticed they do server-side PGP encryption like BMR, which is a big security vulnerability.

Seriously? Could you explain exactly how doing one-way PGP encryption using my public PGP key is a big security vulnerability? Stop talking out of your ass.
Title: Re: And Atlantis rose from the depths and washed away the road
Post by: chil on April 24, 2013, 09:09 pm
Atlantis does look better, layout and options-wise: display price in btc / ltc / dollars simultaneously, sort by price, etc...
Title: Re: And Atlantis rose from the depths and washed away the road
Post by: colorblack on April 24, 2013, 09:34 pm
Checked it out when it had it's "Grand Opening", and just checked it out now. It sucked then, and looks like it still sucks on so many levels.
The truth hurts. Honeypot or not.. it is no SR.
Title: Re: And Atlantis rose from the depths and washed away the road
Post by: astor on April 24, 2013, 09:53 pm
Seriously? Could you explain exactly how doing one-way PGP encryption using my public PGP key is a big security vulnerability? Stop talking out of your ass.

Because the address is posted in plaintext in the text box. You are trusting that they are *only* encrypting your message with the recipient's public key, and not transmitting it to their server (google the Hushmail steroid vendor scandal as an example of how someone got pwned by server-supplied code; this isn't theoretical). Encrypting on your own solves that problem.

I'm not talking out of my ass either. Read the long discussion here about why relying on server-supplied code is bad: http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=131274.0
Title: Re: And Atlantis rose from the depths and washed away the road
Post by: Not_A_Sheep on April 24, 2013, 10:14 pm
I think its a cool place to poke around, personally I would probably wait till vendors get up in the 100's of sales to make a buy of my own, SR does not bother me at all, the constant maintenence is a sign of a good thing, and un patient people should GTFO if it pisses them off so bad instead of complaining about it with long stupid forum posts. Lol not like I am a 14 year old kid using SR like its my facebook and have to login every 10 minutes lol
Title: Re: And Atlantis rose from the depths and washed away the road
Post by: TheGreenXchange on April 24, 2013, 10:19 pm
Why can't I type "https" before the url? It works if I leave it out....

-TGX
Title: Re: And Atlantis rose from the depths and washed away the road
Post by: fantastiqfox on April 24, 2013, 10:29 pm
Seriously? Could you explain exactly how doing one-way PGP encryption using my public PGP key is a big security vulnerability? Stop talking out of your ass.

Because the address is posted in plaintext in the text box. You are trusting that they are *only* encrypting your message with the recipient's public key, and not transmitting it to their server (google the Hushmail steroid vendor scandal as an example of how someone got pwned by server-supplied code; this isn't theoretical). Encrypting on your own solves that problem.

I'm not talking out of my ass either. Read the long discussion here about why relying on server-supplied code is bad: http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=131274.0


astor, thanks for helping to verify my concern! scary feature.
Title: Re: And Atlantis rose from the depths and washed away the road
Post by: deivoxcarnal on April 24, 2013, 10:49 pm
I'm making an order on Atlantis, I will keep everyone posted if/when it arrives... Hopefully everything goes good... If you do NOT hear from me that means it was a setup... If it don't show u will still hear from me

A vendor can easily be an undercover cop on SR and on Atlantis. I can be an undercover cop for all you know. You can be an undercover cop. In that way SR and Atlantis are exactly the same.

If you don't trust Atlantis-only vendors, go ahead and order from "verified" vendors - those are vendors that have proven that they have the same name on SR and Atlantis so you can check their feedback.

How do you see whether a vendor on Atlantis is verified or not?
Title: Re: And Atlantis rose from the depths and washed away the road
Post by: fantastiqfox on April 24, 2013, 11:44 pm
I just posted this on the Atlantis forum, but just trying to gauge what other readers think:

If Atlantis does continue to grow and gain popularity I'll be very interested to see how they will deal with the increased server loads, daily attacks and constant attention that SR has had to deal with over the past few years.

SR has never had a true competitor, and it seems Atlantis has the potential to fill that role, but it is still very early to tell. Also, competition is good, but it is good for both parties. Atlantis is basically a carbon copy of SR with really no new innovative features. If Atlantis begins to offer better features or improvements, who is to say that SR will not just as easily counter back? No real competition has allowed SR to remain content with minor improvements here and there, but no real need to innovate. Now that Atlantis has come along with a "smoother" look and feel, who is to say that SR will not improve immensely by learning or copying their competitors ideas?

Atlantis has no where near the reputation that SR has established and it's still hard to say how legitimate it is or will be. They seem to preach strong security practices, but with features such as "auto-pgp encrypted messages" who is to say that the server is not recording and logging all the data? Is Atlantis an LE operation? How long will it take for Atlantis to gain the trust and respect that SR has accumulated since its inception?

I'm relatively indifferent one way or the other, just pointing out some food for thought.
Title: Re: And Atlantis rose from the depths and washed away the road
Post by: cantellya on April 24, 2013, 11:54 pm
[CENSORED: scam link]rky4es5q.onion

Faster,
Cheaper,
Functional
Stable

So long road, we wont miss your 2 minutes page loads and frequent crashes. Hey, why are you all reading this, is the road down again?

 ::)

It's been pretty obvious since you started trolling here, you've not had any love for SR.
I think it's fairly obvious Masterbater is either associated with Atlantis or is too stupid to realize any server as popular as SR is will have load issues, attacks, and due to trailblazing this sector - growing pains.

Atlantis possibilities:

1)  Atlantis is an LE honeypot, hoping vendors will join and be "verified" or open themselves to their wonderfully de-anonymizing configured server.
2)  Atlantis is a scam.
3) Atlantis is legit, and copying SRs successes and learning somewhat from our growing pains.
4) Regardless of which of the above is correct, the timing of this DDoS, new amazing drug marketplace, and Master's trolling efforts over the last month, seem pretty well planned to create an exodus situation.

I sincerely hope it's #3, but figure it's likely #1 - and #4 is very possible.

If you are done here Master, please, allow me to show you the door....

Right on. What he said. It's all very convenient. I'll keep my business with the SR- Shadyness to get business equates to shady business practices. NO THANK YOU.
Title: Re: And Atlantis rose from the depths and washed away the road
Post by: pkizenko98 on April 25, 2013, 12:10 am
[CENSORED: scam link]rky4es5q.onion

Faster,
Cheaper,
Functional
Stable

So long road, we wont miss your 2 minutes page loads and frequent crashes. Hey, why are you all reading this, is the road down again?

 ::)

It's been pretty obvious since you started trolling here, you've not had any love for SR.
I think it's fairly obvious Masterbater is either associated with Atlantis or is too stupid to realize any server as popular as SR is will have load issues, attacks, and due to trailblazing this sector - growing pains.

Atlantis possibilities:

1)  Atlantis is an LE honeypot, hoping vendors will join and be "verified" or open themselves to their wonderfully de-anonymizing configured server.
2)  Atlantis is a scam.
3) Atlantis is legit, and copying SRs successes and learning somewhat from our growing pains.
4) Regardless of which of the above is correct, the timing of this DDoS, new amazing drug marketplace, and Master's trolling efforts over the last month, seem pretty well planned to create an exodus situation.

I sincerely hope it's #3, but figure it's likely #1 - and #4 is very possible.

If you are done here Master, please, allow me to show you the door....

Right on. What he said. It's all very convenient. I'll keep my business with the SR- Shadyness to get business equates to shady business practices. NO THANK YOU.


People, do whatever you want, but just be aware of Greed.  That's all I gotta say!
Title: Re: And Atlantis rose from the depths and washed away the road
Post by: hanjis on April 25, 2013, 12:12 am
[CENSORED: scam link]rky4es5q.onion

Faster,
Cheaper,
Functional
Stable

So long road, we wont miss your 2 minutes page loads and frequent crashes. Hey, why are you all reading this, is the road down again?

 ::)

It's been pretty obvious since you started trolling here, you've not had any love for SR.
I think it's fairly obvious Masterbater is either associated with Atlantis or is too stupid to realize any server as popular as SR is will have load issues, attacks, and due to trailblazing this sector - growing pains.

Atlantis possibilities:

1)  Atlantis is an LE honeypot, hoping vendors will join and be "verified" or open themselves to their wonderfully de-anonymizing configured server.
2)  Atlantis is a scam.
3) Atlantis is legit, and copying SRs successes and learning somewhat from our growing pains.
4) Regardless of which of the above is correct, the timing of this DDoS, new amazing drug marketplace, and Master's trolling efforts over the last month, seem pretty well planned to create an exodus situation.

I sincerely hope it's #3, but figure it's likely #1 - and #4 is very possible.

If you are done here Master, please, allow me to show you the door....

Right on. What he said. It's all very convenient. I'll keep my business with the SR- Shadyness to get business equates to shady business practices. NO THANK YOU.

Speaking of 'shady business practices' as if SR isn't shady, is quite asinine. SR is chock full of scammers, and protects the scammers by just avoiding dealing with them. A 500 dollar fee to open an account does nothing but give a false sense of credibility to the scammer. Look at what SR is doing now; redirecting you to a www. address. hmmm I wonder what the benefit of redirecting to www. would be to a certain government agency.
Title: Re: And Atlantis rose from the depths and washed away the road
Post by: Kappacino on April 25, 2013, 12:17 am
[CENSORED: scam link]rky4es5q.onion

Faster,
Cheaper,
Functional
Stable

So long road, we wont miss your 2 minutes page loads and frequent crashes. Hey, why are you all reading this, is the road down again?

 ::)

It's been pretty obvious since you started trolling here, you've not had any love for SR.
I think it's fairly obvious Masterbater is either associated with Atlantis or is too stupid to realize any server as popular as SR is will have load issues, attacks, and due to trailblazing this sector - growing pains.

Atlantis possibilities:

1)  Atlantis is an LE honeypot, hoping vendors will join and be "verified" or open themselves to their wonderfully de-anonymizing configured server.
2)  Atlantis is a scam.
3) Atlantis is legit, and copying SRs successes and learning somewhat from our growing pains.
4) Regardless of which of the above is correct, the timing of this DDoS, new amazing drug marketplace, and Master's trolling efforts over the last month, seem pretty well planned to create an exodus situation.

I sincerely hope it's #3, but figure it's likely #1 - and #4 is very possible.

If you are done here Master, please, allow me to show you the door....

Right on. What he said. It's all very convenient. I'll keep my business with the SR- Shadyness to get business equates to shady business practices. NO THANK YOU.

Speaking of 'shady business practices' as if SR isn't shady, is quite asinine. SR is chock full of scammers, and protects the scammers by just avoiding dealing with them. A 500 dollar fee to open an account does nothing but give a false sense of credibility to the scammer. Look at what SR is doing now; redirecting you to a www. address. hmmm I wonder what the benefit of redirecting to www. would be to a certain government agency.

Care to elaborate on that?
Title: Re: And Atlantis rose from the depths and washed away the road
Post by: OzFreelancer on April 25, 2013, 12:33 am
If someone were to interview the owners of Atlantis, what questions would you like to see put to them?
Title: Re: And Atlantis rose from the depths and washed away the road
Post by: MarcelKetman on April 25, 2013, 12:34 am
[CENSORED: scam link]rky4es5q.onion

Faster,
Cheaper,
Functional
Stable

So long road, we wont miss your 2 minutes page loads and frequent crashes. Hey, why are you all reading this, is the road down again?

 ::)

It's been pretty obvious since you started trolling here, you've not had any love for SR.
I think it's fairly obvious Masterbater is either associated with Atlantis or is too stupid to realize any server as popular as SR is will have load issues, attacks, and due to trailblazing this sector - growing pains.

Atlantis possibilities:

1)  Atlantis is an LE honeypot, hoping vendors will join and be "verified" or open themselves to their wonderfully de-anonymizing configured server.
2)  Atlantis is a scam.
3) Atlantis is legit, and copying SRs successes and learning somewhat from our growing pains.
4) Regardless of which of the above is correct, the timing of this DDoS, new amazing drug marketplace, and Master's trolling efforts over the last month, seem pretty well planned to create an exodus situation.

I sincerely hope it's #3, but figure it's likely #1 - and #4 is very possible.

If you are done here Master, please, allow me to show you the door....

Right on. What he said. It's all very convenient. I'll keep my business with the SR- Shadyness to get business equates to shady business practices. NO THANK YOU.

Speaking of 'shady business practices' as if SR isn't shady, is quite asinine. SR is chock full of scammers, and protects the scammers by just avoiding dealing with them. A 500 dollar fee to open an account does nothing but give a false sense of credibility to the scammer. Look at what SR is doing now; redirecting you to a www. address. hmmm I wonder what the benefit of redirecting to www. would be to a certain government agency.

Care to elaborate on that?

Yes what are you talking about?
Title: Re: And Atlantis rose from the depths and washed away the road
Post by: baconmacguru on April 25, 2013, 12:35 am
Seems like LEO to me... "No fees for bulk vendors for 3 months" hahahhahahah good luck on there guys.
Title: Re: And Atlantis rose from the depths and washed away the road
Post by: str8trippin on April 25, 2013, 01:11 am
[CENSORED: scam link]rky4es5q.onion

Faster,
Cheaper,
Functional
Stable

So long road, we wont miss your 2 minutes page loads and frequent crashes. Hey, why are you all reading this, is the road down again?

 ::)

It's been pretty obvious since you started trolling here, you've not had any love for SR.
I think it's fairly obvious Masterbater is either associated with Atlantis or is too stupid to realize any server as popular as SR is will have load issues, attacks, and due to trailblazing this sector - growing pains.

Atlantis possibilities:

1)  Atlantis is an LE honeypot, hoping vendors will join and be "verified" or open themselves to their wonderfully de-anonymizing configured server.
2)  Atlantis is a scam.
3) Atlantis is legit, and copying SRs successes and learning somewhat from our growing pains.
4) Regardless of which of the above is correct, the timing of this DDoS, new amazing drug marketplace, and Master's trolling efforts over the last month, seem pretty well planned to create an exodus situation.

I sincerely hope it's #3, but figure it's likely #1 - and #4 is very possible.

If you are done here Master, please, allow me to show you the door....

Right on. What he said. It's all very convenient. I'll keep my business with the SR- Shadyness to get business equates to shady business practices. NO THANK YOU.

Speaking of 'shady business practices' as if SR isn't shady, is quite asinine. SR is chock full of scammers, and protects the scammers by just avoiding dealing with them. A 500 dollar fee to open an account does nothing but give a false sense of credibility to the scammer. Look at what SR is doing now; redirecting you to a www. address. hmmm I wonder what the benefit of redirecting to www. would be to a certain government agency.

hanjis, care to elaborate?
Title: Re: And Atlantis rose from the depths and washed away the road
Post by: BenJesuit on April 25, 2013, 01:39 am
Seems like LEO to me... "No fees for bulk vendors for 3 months" hahahhahahah good luck on there guys.

LOL. Yeah, not confidence inspiring at all.

And I was about to ask if one could convert litcoins to BTC and vice versa on the site. Never mind now.
Title: Re: And Atlantis rose from the depths and washed away the road
Post by: tetrizkube on April 25, 2013, 02:00 am
Just noticed they do server-side PGP encryption like BMR, which is a big security vulnerability.
You could PGP your address before their encryption, though. Right?

Also where do y'all see this  "No fees for bulk vendors for 3 months"?
I don't see why the honeypot concern is legit?  DPR could be the DEA, I don't know him. But through tor and PGP, I've anonymized myself. So even if Atlantis is run by the feds, how can they get to me?  (serious question here from a tech amateur)
Title: Re: And Atlantis rose from the depths and washed away the road
Post by: Kappacino on April 25, 2013, 02:23 am
[CENSORED: scam link]rky4es5q.onion

Faster,
Cheaper,
Functional
Stable

So long road, we wont miss your 2 minutes page loads and frequent crashes. Hey, why are you all reading this, is the road down again?

 ::)

It's been pretty obvious since you started trolling here, you've not had any love for SR.
I think it's fairly obvious Masterbater is either associated with Atlantis or is too stupid to realize any server as popular as SR is will have load issues, attacks, and due to trailblazing this sector - growing pains.

Atlantis possibilities:

1)  Atlantis is an LE honeypot, hoping vendors will join and be "verified" or open themselves to their wonderfully de-anonymizing configured server.
2)  Atlantis is a scam.
3) Atlantis is legit, and copying SRs successes and learning somewhat from our growing pains.
4) Regardless of which of the above is correct, the timing of this DDoS, new amazing drug marketplace, and Master's trolling efforts over the last month, seem pretty well planned to create an exodus situation.

I sincerely hope it's #3, but figure it's likely #1 - and #4 is very possible.

If you are done here Master, please, allow me to show you the door....

Right on. What he said. It's all very convenient. I'll keep my business with the SR- Shadyness to get business equates to shady business practices. NO THANK YOU.

Speaking of 'shady business practices' as if SR isn't shady, is quite asinine. SR is chock full of scammers, and protects the scammers by just avoiding dealing with them. A 500 dollar fee to open an account does nothing but give a false sense of credibility to the scammer. Look at what SR is doing now; redirecting you to a www. address. hmmm I wonder what the benefit of redirecting to www. would be to a certain government agency.

Care to elaborate on that?

Yes what are you talking about?

What he implied at the end.
Title: Re: And Atlantis rose from the depths and washed away the road
Post by: itsthecops on April 25, 2013, 02:31 am
Everybody here including Atlantis and Silk Road are all using TOR.  as long we all continue that , then there is no way yu could ever get caught anyway.  We all depend on TOR.   PGP.can be used on top of their encryption and that is great.

LE WOULDN'T build a site like that and let some drugs out. No way.  Maybe operators are willing to give passwords in a raid.   Maybe.

Title: Re: And Atlantis rose from the depths and washed away the road
Post by: astor on April 25, 2013, 02:32 am
You could PGP your address before their encryption, though. Right?

It's an optional feature, so you can (and should) PGP encrypt your address with a local app and post only the encrypted PGP block into the text box.
Title: Re: And Atlantis rose from the depths and washed away the road
Post by: OzFreelancer on April 25, 2013, 02:55 am
Everybody here including Atlantis and Silk Road are all using TOR.  as long we all continue that , then there is no way yu could ever get caught anyway.  We all depend on TOR.   PGP.can be used on top of their encryption and that is great.

They wouldn't catch you through a flaw in Tor or PGP. It would be through social engineering. 
Title: Re: And Atlantis rose from the depths and washed away the road
Post by: Mcrad on April 25, 2013, 03:15 am
so idk whats going on here, i love the road but its being a but bumpy this past week. atlantis seems to be running smoothly?

has anyone ordered anything from the atlantis site yet?

i cant help myself but to branch out from the road when its not being solid (not like the road is needed anyway)


Title: Re: And Atlantis rose from the depths and washed away the road
Post by: itsthecops on April 25, 2013, 04:42 am
Ah we are being played.  DPR probably sold the site already.  They are transitioning us over the only way they cod think of .  Shit, they are all the same fucking site. 

Don't see many vendors in all of this.  Hiding till the dust clears I guess
Title: Re: And Atlantis rose from the depths and washed away the road
Post by: masterblaster on April 25, 2013, 05:22 am
Thread TDLR

-"Im a faggot wannabe vendor who doesnt understand the fact that if i knew what i was doing it wouldnt matter if the DEA ran the fucking site and bought from me"

-"Whahh, this works better in every way, but i'll stick with the old clunky shit cause im the kind of faggot who still plays with his childhood toys"

-"They have auto-pgp for the 90% of people who dont even give a fuck enough to encrypt thier address, they must be out to get me cause im too stupid to realize that it doesnt keep me from encrypting my address anyways".

That could save yall 6 pages of blubbering bitches.
Title: Re: And Atlantis rose from the depths and washed away the road
Post by: nyancats on April 25, 2013, 06:27 am
Seriously? Could you explain exactly how doing one-way PGP encryption using my public PGP key is a big security vulnerability? Stop talking out of your ass.

Because the address is posted in plaintext in the text box. You are trusting that they are *only* encrypting your message with the recipient's public key, and not transmitting it to their server (google the Hushmail steroid vendor scandal as an example of how someone got pwned by server-supplied code; this isn't theoretical). Encrypting on your own solves that problem.

I'm not talking out of my ass either. Read the long discussion here about why relying on server-supplied code is bad: http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=131274.0

Um, okay, not sure if you're trolling or just seriously misunderstanding. Atlantis _will encrypt_ messages sent to your inbox that senders _didn't already encrypt_, using your public PGP key. This is entirely transparent to sender and receiver. Sender doesn't have to rely on Atlantis to do the encryption; in fact, sender will never know whether his/her un-encrypted message will be encrypted at destination.

This is just an extra layer of security Atlantis provides should someone compromise their servers and gain ability to read people's inboxes or order lists.
Title: Re: And Atlantis rose from the depths and washed away the road
Post by: joolz on April 25, 2013, 10:17 am
anubody ordered  ???
Title: Re: And Atlantis rose from the depths and washed away the road
Post by: nanpa2001 on April 25, 2013, 03:02 pm
Atlantis is LE? If they are they must be the most stupid LE in the history of the world because they just facilitated my purchase of narcotics.

I just bought $1000 worth of drugs from JesusOfRave over at Atlantis. I used PGP to encrypt my order. How is it that LE is supposed to catch me? Explain that.

Hey, I asked over on the forums there why they are doing this business. They said they are doing it for the money. I believe them. Seems pretty simple to me.
Title: Re: And Atlantis rose from the depths and washed away the road
Post by: nanpa2001 on April 25, 2013, 03:06 pm
Atlantis is basically a carbon copy of SR with really no new innovative features.

That is not even remotely true. Anyone that has looked into the features of Atlantis knows that Atlantis has far more features than SR - it isn't even a close contest. What it doesn't have is many vendors and that is changing fast.
Title: Re: And Atlantis rose from the depths and washed away the road
Post by: phangka on April 25, 2013, 03:27 pm
I believe myself to be a very loyal person .  I've been using the same local dealer for over 10 years and don't have any plans on looking for other sources because I have no need to. 

DPR has given us this wonderful site and does everything he can to keep it running.  I won't join another site unless it's absolutely necessary.  I hope the same can be said for many other happy consumers.

I'm also surprised that the promoters of this competitors site have not been delta with in some way or another.

Thanks for expanding my world DPR.  Keep up the good work.
Title: Re: And Atlantis rose from the depths and washed away the road
Post by: nanpa2001 on April 25, 2013, 03:53 pm
Has anyone noticed this on their forum? I was pretty blown away with the implications of it.

http://atlmlxbk2mbupwgr.onion/index.php?topic=191.0
Title: Re: And Atlantis rose from the depths and washed away the road
Post by: divinechemicals on April 25, 2013, 03:58 pm
Atlantis is missing one crucial piece: DPR. Do you trust anyone else to run a website which is carrying thousands of BTC at any given time? I don't. If DPR was planning on pulling off the greatest scam of all time, he would have done it by now. I don't know who runs Atlantis, but I'm hesitant to say the least. Plus DPR has proven he and his team can overcome security and other website issues. What will Atlantis do when they have a DoS attack, or a sudden increase in traffic, or attempts by LE to hack in and get information? I'd be wary if I were you.
Title: Re: And Atlantis rose from the depths and washed away the road
Post by: astor on April 25, 2013, 04:12 pm
Atlantis _will encrypt_ messages sent to your inbox that senders _didn't already encrypt_, using your public PGP key.

Yes, that's what you are _trusting_ them to _only_ do.

Which you shouldn't.


Sender doesn't have to rely on Atlantis to do the encryption

I know, I pointed that out myself a few posts before yours.

The point is, this is a potentially critical security vulnerability as bad as posting your address in plaintext (because you literally are), and I will always point out that's a bad idea.

See my signature.
Title: Re: And Atlantis rose from the depths and washed away the road
Post by: sendji on April 25, 2013, 04:20 pm
So, I checked out that Atlantis site, and it took at least 20-30 seconds to load.  Silk Road, when operating at full capacity, is near instantaneous these days.  I haven't even noticed a decline in service as I haven't been around the past few days. Atlantis just seemed like a shady Silk Road rip-off to me.  Same categories, mostly empty.  Anyway, I'll leave it up to people with disposable BTC and brass bawls to test it out.  I'm happy with Silk Road.  I mean, come on people.  Silk Road, even with it's occasional hiccups, is still incredible and amazing.
Title: Re: And Atlantis rose from the depths and washed away the road
Post by: astor on April 25, 2013, 04:47 pm
nyancat, the whole point of encrypting your address is to hide it from the server and marketplace admins, in case they are compromised.

When you post your plaintext address into their "PGP encryption" text box, you are passing that plaintext into some JavaScript variable and you are trusting that the encryption is done in browser, then passed to the server. However, they can modify the code at any time to transmit the plaintext back to their servers and store it. You'd have to check the JavaScript *every time* to be sure it isn't malicious, and even then it may be obfuscated.

In other words, it's a system that works as long as they aren't compromised, and fails when they are compromised, making it totally useless.

Do you understand now? If you trust them to do the encryption, then you are trusting them with your plaintext address, so you might as well just post the plaintext.

A better solution is to encrypt your address on your computer and only post encrypted text blocks into the browser.
Title: Re: And Atlantis rose from the depths and washed away the road
Post by: ProudCannabian on April 25, 2013, 04:56 pm
First, this horse has been beaten to death - LE can, has and will sell you weapons, drugs and anything else in the pursuit of "justice" while protecting their undercover assets.  If you think operation Fast and Furious or Iran Contra made everyone in LE suddenly say, oh we should be more ethical about our undercover operations, you are stupid.  Of course they aren't going to bust customers for 1/4 ounce orders of pot and a few pills, they want vendors. (which is why the emphasis on vendor services and verification that requires a direct line to SR on this Atlantis sounds fishy to me).

Why do I trust SR more than Atlantis, BMR or any other site?  Several reasons:

1) Because they were first, and they did it not to be popular, but to provide a service and make some coin.  This place has experience on their resume.
2) LE wasn't turned on to this site right-off, it wasn't until the congressional hearing that many officers had even heard of the road.
3) Newer sites springing up after SR COULD be honeypots because of the frustration in countering SR.  How do you de-anonymize TOR users? By operating a malicious endpoint specifically configured to do so.  LE wouldn't have originally set up a shop to innovate a whole new market for drugs, but LE can look at this wonderful example and build their own.
4) I didn't just jump into SR buying shit left-right and center my first day.  I watched, and waited.  I lurked here for almost three months before I even registered.  I've seen illegal drug sites taken down by LE, and it isn't pretty.  I would advise new vendors to be cautious of Atlantis.
5) Atlantis vendor verification (as stated above) seeks to create a link between your SR vendor accounts and theirs - thereby creating a link in a possible chain of evidence.  You don't even have to sell anything on Atlantis to be caught if it's a honeypot and you've verified, they can just correlate your vendor accounts and look at your listings and feedback.

I sincerely hope they are legit, but it makes no sense for anyone to be so hostile towards SR as Master IS.  Do you hate the entire mall because they have a payless shoe store, or a roof leak every couple months?  I could see being frustrated with the situation, but not being so hostile.  Did SR kick you in the balls Master?
Title: Re: And Atlantis rose from the depths and washed away the road
Post by: nanpa2001 on April 25, 2013, 04:57 pm
A better solution is to encrypt your address on your computer and only post encrypted text blocks into the browser.

That is exactly what I did with my order for JOR over there.

I am sure we can agree that having this feature is no worse, and possibly a lot better, than not having it at all, right? From what I can see, 80% of the users on SR don't use PGP at all in their sending of addresses to vendors. For those people, I would say the feature adds value.
Title: Re: And Atlantis rose from the depths and washed away the road
Post by: sendji on April 25, 2013, 05:14 pm
From what I can see, 80% of the users on SR don't use PGP at all in their sending of addresses to vendors.

Do you really think it's that high of a percentage of people that don't use PGP?  I haven't scratched the surface of threads here in over a year, but when I was lurking around before I purchased, I got the impression PGP was almost a requirement.  That's the reason I took a lot of time learning as much as I could about BTC and PGP before I made my first purchase.  Maybe I just got that impression because most of the vendors I was looking at had public key blocks, either on the item listing or their vendor pages. 

What I can't understand is why people don't put two and two together and realize that's something they need to look into.  If you're looking at involving yourself in something and there is information that you don't quite understand, isn't it natural to want to know what it means/is for?  If they've made it to Silk Road, using TOR, it's not a far leap to assume they could find out about PGP basics.
Title: Re: And Atlantis rose from the depths and washed away the road
Post by: nanpa2001 on April 25, 2013, 05:20 pm
From what I can see, 80% of the users on SR don't use PGP at all in their sending of addresses to vendors.

Do you really think it's that high of a percentage of people that don't use PGP?  I haven't scratched the surface of threads here in over a year, but when I was lurking around before I purchased, I got the impression PGP was almost a requirement.  That's the reason I took a lot of time learning as much as I could about BTC and PGP before I made my first purchase.  Maybe I just got that impression because most of the vendors I was looking at at public key blocks, either on the item listing or their vendor pages. 

What I can't understand is why people don't put two and two together and realize that's something they need to look into.  If you're looking at involving yourself in something and there is information that you don't quite understand, isn't it natural to want to know what it means/is for?  If they've made it to Silk Road, using TOR, it's not a far leap to assume they could find out about PGP basics.

I read that it is something like 80% not using PGP from the various vendor feedback on this forum. I have no reason to believe that is not true.
Title: Re: And Atlantis rose from the depths and washed away the road
Post by: sendji on April 25, 2013, 05:25 pm
I read that it is something like 80% not using PGP from the various vendor feedback on this forum. I have no reason to believe that is not true.

Ahh, I was just wondering.  I wasn't trying to question your or the vendors' honesty or anything, I'm just shocked at that number.  Like I said, I haven't read a lot of the stuff you probably have on the subject.
Title: Re: And Atlantis rose from the depths and washed away the road
Post by: MarcelKetman on April 25, 2013, 08:02 pm
I read that it is something like 80% not using PGP from the various vendor feedback on this forum. I have no reason to believe that is not true.

Ahh, I was just wondering.  I wasn't trying to question your or the vendors' honesty or anything, I'm just shocked at that number.  Like I said, I haven't read a lot of the stuff you probably have on the subject.

I'd put it more about at 65% not using PGP these days. And about 5% use privnote.
Title: Re: And Atlantis rose from the depths and washed away the road
Post by: cantellya on April 25, 2013, 10:02 pm
@ OP (let's see how many water references I can throw in for posterity)

And the SR is back with the force of a tsunami, and faster than I've ever seen it. I have a sinking feeling that your underhanded marketing tactics won't work... and you're all washed up. so go take a long walk off a short pier.  ;D
Title: Re: And Atlantis rose from the depths and washed away the road
Post by: itsthecops on April 26, 2013, 12:47 am
What a splash.  Makes me wet.
Title: Re: And Atlantis rose from the depths and washed away the road
Post by: Jack N Hoff on April 26, 2013, 12:50 am
masterblaster doesn't give a fuck about atlantis or Silk Road.  He gets his jollies off by stirring up commotion.  He does it for the lulz of course.
Title: Re: And Atlantis rose from the depths and washed away the road
Post by: itsthecops on April 26, 2013, 01:51 am
Man.  Glad to see all da peeps are back to Gittin' high again after the site problems.
Those fucking eggheads finally went to bed and kissed mommy goodnight.


Title: Re: And Atlantis rose from the depths and washed away the road
Post by: danconia on April 26, 2013, 09:23 am
[CENSORED: scam link]rky4es5q.onion

Faster,
Cheaper,
Functional
Stable

So long road, we wont miss your 2 minutes page loads and frequent crashes. Hey, why are you all reading this, is the road down again?

What better way for a new SR competitor to kick things off and steal customers than having one of the forums' most hated users advertising for them!

LOL if I were an Atlantis admin I would be trying to get MB banned from these forums right now.
Title: Re: And Atlantis rose from the depths and washed away the road
Post by: nanpa2001 on April 26, 2013, 12:12 pm
LOL if I were an Atlantis admin I would be trying to get MB banned from these forums right now.

If they can't ban BTC for moneypak scammers, they are not going to ban him.
Title: Re: And Atlantis rose from the depths and washed away the road
Post by: Woger on April 26, 2013, 10:29 pm
Atlantis reeks of DESPERATION and when desperation is involved people eventually do terrible shit to each other... breaks down like this:

1) Atlantis (or someone trolling as Atlantis) desperate for users, posts to SR's own forums to stir up shit on SR to promote Atlantis. SHITTY BITCHES Step 1.

2) While 1 is happening, Atlantis is using SR as part of their perception of security -- verified vendors are vendors 1st verified on... you guessed it, SR! So you have one site abusing a site and then relying on the same site to pump up their security. SHITTY BITCHES Step 2.

3) Atlantis trying to convince people that arbitrary site features are SOOOOO FUCKING IMPORTANT. When the reality is, we're all FUCKING LUCKY that SR takes security so seriously. High security typically means less usability -- that's a "good thing". Atlantis apparently prefers promoting flashy site design over security concerns (Server-side PGP? Srs? So you REALLLY DO NOT CARE ABOUT USER SECURITY WHEN IT BECOMES A LITTLE INCONVENIENT? So, SHITTY BITCHES Step 3.

4) The obvious scumbag / virus tactics... sleaze up to something like SR, replicated it enough as an alternative site, create a perception of advantage via some false notion of "ease of use", then attract idiots who don't know any better. SHITTY BITCHES Step 4.

5) If Atlantis were serious about overcoming what it call SR's shortcomings, it would work to solve them, not replace them. That is an easy measure of integrity right there. So, SHITTY BITCHES Step 5!

In just 5 easy steps, we show that Atlantis is clearly nothing but SHITTY BITCHES who prefer underhanded tactics and prioritizing "ease of use" over "better security for all".


SOOOOOO, if anyone you knew behaved like Atlantis has in any of 5 steps above, would you trust them with your life? (cause, yes, believe it peeps... your life is at stake here!)

Meanwhile DPR stands for something more than just profit: silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/charter His actions show the person he is time and time again... And yes, that is important and yes, it counts!

Call me a DPR / SR fan boy, it's all you can do to hide from the fact that DPR / SR actions and words are aligned as one in the same. TOP THAT ATLANTIS! Can't wait to see your bullshit copycat charter page! Let's see how hollow your copycat words are!?


And yes, having multiple reliable markets who share the same need for security is great but when a new market comes along and cannot even see that we're all stronger together, rather than promote some pithy differences, dividing us, and all for their own perceived advantage!? ULTRA-MEGA-FAIL


Fact is, some people will do anything for profit or perceived advantage. Not saying Atlantis is LE (looks like it to me, but hey), but at least DPR stands for something more than just profit.

Yep, sorry kids, but bullshit profit motives cannot last, by their own design! "Increased efficiency through automation = no workforce" anyone? Apparently it is not clear to some that money is not going to be around forever, as it increasingly & fundamentally limits our progress as a species. True that money & differential advantage was useful to our species for a while, but that time is slowly ending! Hurrahh!

Anyone ANYONE who doesn't see Atlantis for what it is: so desperate that "we'll do anything for a buck" and that such thinking will eventually land their users in shit (perhaps rightly so, for their own stupidity), is fucking 'ignant!

Just saying ;)
Title: Re: And Atlantis rose from the depths and washed away the road
Post by: joolz on April 26, 2013, 11:19 pm
both are owned by the same person lol
smoke and mirrors folks
Title: Re: And Atlantis rose from the depths and washed away the road
Post by: Woger on April 26, 2013, 11:22 pm
both are owned by the same person lol
smoke and mirrors folks
As evidenced by? (go ahead, i'll wait)

And pls, don't bother if you don't have any thanks.
Title: Re: And Atlantis rose from the depths and washed away the road
Post by: White 0ut on April 27, 2013, 06:53 am
"And MasterBlaster & this thread sunk to the depths and washed away the part of the forums we know as "absolute shit"...."
Title: Re: And Atlantis rose from the depths and washed away the road
Post by: Chaosforpeace on April 27, 2013, 06:56 am
It's amazing. Masterblaster has become known as the Silk Road troll. He lives just beneath the bridge between the road and the forums.

Chaos
Title: Re: And Atlantis rose from the depths and washed away the road
Post by: jase00 on April 27, 2013, 07:08 am
I've only been on SR for a bit over a year and in the last few months it looks like more and more vendors arent even including PGP in their profiles. I assume most of them just don't understand the purpose.

The other day I asked a new vendor why they didn't have it in there profile and they said they don't bother because when they were a buyer they did 100's of transactions and never once got into troublee.. That kind of response is abit worrying.

I kind of assume and hope SR has a self destruct feature built in that can be activated from multiple places... just incase ;)

Do you really think it's that high of a percentage of people that don't use PGP?  I haven't scratched the surface of threads here in over a year, but when I was lurking around before I purchased, I got the impression PGP was almost a requirement.  That's the reason I took a lot of time learning as much as I could about BTC and PGP before I made my first purchase.  Maybe I just got that impression because most of the vendors I was looking at had public key blocks, either on the item listing or their vendor pages. 
Title: Re: And Atlantis rose from the depths and washed away the road
Post by: Woger on April 27, 2013, 09:22 pm
@jase00

Yeah vendors who don't use PGP is a glaring red flag to say "don't buy from this vendor".

No exceptions, or proceed at your own peril!
Title: Re: And Atlantis rose from the depths and washed away the road
Post by: samesamebutdifferent on April 27, 2013, 09:28 pm
It's amazing. Masterblaster has become known as the Silk Road troll. He lives just beneath the bridge between the road and the forums.

Chaos

And yet every bullshit thread by masterblaster draws in pages and pages of comments, my personal favorite recently was called "god why can't I cum in your kidz", some of the discussion in that one was just disturbing, you know who you are.

These forums are full of conspiracy theory's evidenced by a whole lot of fuck all, mostly rumor and conjecture but never let the truth get in the way of a good story though hey!

Time will tell with Atlantis, it was inevitable that another site would be created and I'm pretty sure there will be more to come in the future, it is the natural evolution of things.

It does make me smile though when I read posts by people continuously complaining about SR though, I really do think some people lose sight of just what the fuck we are doing here, am I the only one that is still blown away by the possibilities that SR provides me with? yes it's slow at times, yes it's down occasionally but lets see how fast Atlantis is when its getting the same traffic volume as SR. I'm sure SR will continue to evolve but it astounds me how quickly some are willing to write off one for the other.

Title: Re: And Atlantis rose from the depths and washed away the road
Post by: Chaosforpeace on April 27, 2013, 11:19 pm
It's amazing. Masterblaster has become known as the Silk Road troll. He lives just beneath the bridge between the road and the forums.

Chaos

And yet every bullshit thread by masterblaster draws in pages and pages of comments, my personal favorite recently was called "god why can't I cum in your kidz", some of the discussion in that one was just disturbing, you know who you are.
Is banning only allowed to be done by DPR himself?
Pull the switch, kill the bitch.

Even if he started again, he wouldn't have as much clout as mastertroller does now.

Chaos
Title: Re: And Atlantis rose from the depths and washed away the road
Post by: samesamebutdifferent on April 27, 2013, 11:31 pm
It's amazing. Masterblaster has become known as the Silk Road troll. He lives just beneath the bridge between the road and the forums.

Chaos

And yet every bullshit thread by masterblaster draws in pages and pages of comments, my personal favorite recently was called "god why can't I cum in your kidz", some of the discussion in that one was just disturbing, you know who you are.
Is banning only allowed to be done by DPR himself?
Pull the switch, kill the bitch.

Even if he started again, he wouldn't have as much clout as mastertroller does now.

Chaos

It's an open forum where pretty much anything is fair game for discussion.

The trolls only have clout if people keep feeding them so when I see people taking blatant trolling as a serious subject then start to debate things it makes me realize banning anyone would be a complete waste of time anyway.
Title: Re: And Atlantis rose from the depths and washed away the road
Post by: Chaosforpeace on April 27, 2013, 11:36 pm
I just wish a troll would post a thread and no one would reply. It would kill them. Unfortunately it will never happen.

Chaos
Title: Re: And Atlantis rose from the depths and washed away the road
Post by: colorblack on April 30, 2013, 03:30 am
It's amazing. Masterblaster has become known as the Silk Road troll. He lives just beneath the bridge between the road and the forums.

Chaos
It does make me smile though when I read posts by people continuously complaining about SR though, I really do think some people lose sight of just what the fuck we are doing here, am I the only one that is still blown away by the possibilities that SR provides me with? yes it's slow at times, yes it's down occasionally but lets see how fast Atlantis is when its getting the same traffic volume as SR. I'm sure SR will continue to evolve but it astounds me how quickly some are willing to write off one for the other.

Nailed it. Like I said in another post in reference to why Atlantis is "faster" then SR.. :
Because there's a total of 8 people on that site. 4 feds, 2 customers, 1 disgraced&banned vendor from here, and 1 vendor selling everything from weed to crack.
who only accepts Litecoins.
SR is The Godfather. And Atlantis reminds me of a direct-to-dvd movie starring an overweight Steven Seagal teamed up with Whoopi Goldberg in a buddycop/coming of age dramedy.
Title: Re: And Atlantis rose from the depths and washed away the road
Post by: smokerking86 on April 30, 2013, 04:22 am
i think we are the idiots for letting these vendors rape us with these prices>>> example with the weed 300+ for an 0z thats retarded and we keep buying it thats why vendors keep getting away with this and its not even good weed and then sr taxes and the site is shit it gets hacked everyother day speed is slow no updates on the page that you can notice.  Vendors keeping fucking people with the fe and ripping people off no system in play to remove these people and they keep taxing wtf????
Title: Re: And Atlantis rose from the depths and washed away the road
Post by: colorblack on April 30, 2013, 04:31 am
What are you talking about? Vendor's "ripping people off", when verified, ALWAYS has gotten them booted. FE'ing is your problem.. don't ever FE. The resolution center exists for a reason. So you're wrong about vendors "keep fucking people over". If you were ever fucked over by a vendor you should have gone to resolution, and if you were legitimately fucked over, they'd take care of you.

As far being an idiot" for letting these vendors rape us with high prices"... well, I certainly agree with your declaration of idiotness :D
You realize that there is a lot of competition within the vendors and if you think 1 vendor is pricing something too high, then inevitably another vendor will also see that and swoop in with lower prices. Which would solve your problem.
Title: Re: And Atlantis rose from the depths and washed away the road
Post by: Jack N Hoff on April 30, 2013, 04:33 am
I've seen a thousand times more spam from SR users than from any members of atlantis.  When will it stop???
Title: Re: And Atlantis rose from the depths and washed away the road
Post by: scout on April 30, 2013, 04:37 am
i think we are the idiots for letting these vendors rape us with these prices>>> example with the weed 300+ for an 0z thats retarded and we keep buying it thats why vendors keep getting away with this and its not even good weed and then sr taxes and the site is shit it gets hacked everyother day speed is slow no updates on the page that you can notice.  Vendors keeping fucking people with the fe and ripping people off no system in play to remove these people and they keep taxing wtf????

Wow.  You have ... no clue.  No system in play to prevent vendors scamming buyers?  Heard of the escrow system?  Stay in it, don't finalize early, and there is your protection from being scammed.

Also, this is a market -- prices are dictated by supply and demand.  If you don't like a vendor's price, then choose a different vendor.
Title: Re: And Atlantis rose from the depths and washed away the road
Post by: smokerking86 on April 30, 2013, 04:40 am
What are you talking about? Vendor's "ripping people off", when verified, ALWAYS has gotten them booted. FE'ing is your problem.. don't ever FE. The resolution center exists for a reason. So you're wrong about vendors "keep fucking people over". If you were ever fucked over by a vendor you should have gone to resolution, and if you were legitimately fucked over, they'd take care of you.

As far being an idiot" for letting these vendors rape us with high prices"... well, I certainly agree with your declaration of idiotness :D
You realize that there is a lot of competition within the vendors and if you think 1 vendor is pricing something too high, then inevitably another vendor will also see that and swoop in with lower prices. Which would solve your problem.

didnt mean scamming and the fe you stated its my fault if i did i know someone was going to attack on that fast.. Did not mean scamming but they are pretty much what looks like sticking together why drop in price when we can keep selling at this price and make a killing none of these vendors have bud that should ever sell for 300+ and us as buyers need to get them in check selling this outdoor for indoor and this indoor for a stupid price i just feel we need to be more united so we can all win and keep the vendor in his/her lane
Title: Re: And Atlantis rose from the depths and washed away the road
Post by: smokerking86 on April 30, 2013, 04:44 am
i think we are the idiots for letting these vendors rape us with these prices>>> example with the weed 300+ for an 0z thats retarded and we keep buying it thats why vendors keep getting away with this and its not even good weed and then sr taxes and the site is shit it gets hacked everyother day speed is slow no updates on the page that you can notice.  Vendors keeping fucking people with the fe and ripping people off no system in play to remove these people and they keep taxing wtf????

Wow.  You have ... no clue.  No system in play to prevent vendors scamming buyers?  Heard of the escrow system?  Stay in it, don't finalize early, and there is your protection from being scammed.

Also, this is a market -- prices are dictated by supply and demand.  If you don't like a vendor's price, then choose a different vendor.

yea i know of the escrow but to prevent these vendors that just change their name and come back do a better screening shit i dont know sr gets paid for this not me just an idea thats all .. Basically like i just said it would be alot better if buyers where more united
Title: Re: And Atlantis rose from the depths and washed away the road
Post by: AllDayLong on April 30, 2013, 05:16 am
It's amazing. Masterblaster has become known as the Silk Road troll. He lives just beneath the bridge between the road and the forums.

Chaos

And yet every bullshit thread by masterblaster draws in pages and pages of comments, my personal favorite recently was called "god why can't I cum in your kidz", some of the discussion in that one was just disturbing, you know who you are.

These forums are full of conspiracy theory's evidenced by a whole lot of fuck all, mostly rumor and conjecture but never let the truth get in the way of a good story though hey!

Time will tell with Atlantis, it was inevitable that another site would be created and I'm pretty sure there will be more to come in the future, it is the natural evolution of things.

OK so I didn't see that thread, or most of his really I guess but the reason he gets so much attention is because he says things that lot's of people are thinking, or could possibly be true...

The only knock I see on Atlantis is trust for them not to disappear with everyone's money or be LE. Of course that is a huge thing! The thing is, SR simply cannot be around forever, what if DPR spontaneously combusted. Anyway no matter how dedicated DPR is and has been, doesn't change the fact that the future is unwritten and he will have to shut down operations at one time or another, so let's just enjoy the time we have. Once Atlantis get's going, which it looks like they have been slowly but surely I see no extra risks there than here. Nobody should be trusting DPR with their money or information anyway! I believe DPR himself would tell you this! Do your business with the system provided and don't just leave your money sitting like an idiot! It is more likely that DPR would give everyone warning if he knew he had to shut down but he may not be able to! So minimize your risk and do your thing.
Title: Re: And Atlantis rose from the depths and washed away the road
Post by: samesamebutdifferent on April 30, 2013, 05:42 am
i think we are the idiots for letting these vendors rape us with these prices>>> example with the weed 300+ for an 0z thats retarded and we keep buying it thats why vendors keep getting away with this and its not even good weed and then sr taxes and the site is shit it gets hacked everyother day speed is slow no updates on the page that you can notice.  Vendors keeping fucking people with the fe and ripping people off no system in play to remove these people and they keep taxing wtf????

Wow.  You have ... no clue.  No system in play to prevent vendors scamming buyers?  Heard of the escrow system?  Stay in it, don't finalize early, and there is your protection from being scammed.

Also, this is a market -- prices are dictated by supply and demand.  If you don't like a vendor's price, then choose a different vendor.

yea i know of the escrow but to prevent these vendors that just change their name and come back do a better screening shit i dont know sr gets paid for this not me just an idea thats all .. Basically like i just said it would be alot better if buyers where more united

A lot of buyers do not use the forums, or in some cases use them ineffectively. If more people came here and thoroughly researched their vendors each and every time they are planning an order there would be a lot less scamming going on. I still am amazed at how some of the large FE scams manage to rip so many people when one look at the vendors feedback and a quick search on here can often alert you to there being an issue quite early on, the red flags are there!
Title: Re: And Atlantis rose from the depths and washed away the road
Post by: Festivalia on April 30, 2013, 09:50 am
 :-X [REDACTED]
Title: Re: And Atlantis rose from the depths and washed away the road
Post by: sharonneedles on April 30, 2013, 10:08 am
I went to check out Atlantis but it's down. Can anyone confirm that the link in the OP is correct?
Title: Re: And Atlantis rose from the depths and washed away the road
Post by: Festivalia on April 30, 2013, 06:58 pm
 :-X [REDACTED]
Title: Re: And Atlantis rose from the depths and washed away the road
Post by: Secret_Squirrel on April 30, 2013, 09:48 pm
Awesome OP, not about atlantis, just the wording, I could hear it as an opening to a movie....

O crap, a SR movie, staring Jesse Eisenburg as DPR, god as am typing this I just never want it to happen...
Title: Re: And Atlantis rose from the depths and washed away the road
Post by: Chaosforpeace on May 01, 2013, 01:30 am
Awesome OP, not about atlantis, just the wording, I could hear it as an opening to a movie....

O crap, a SR movie, staring Jesse Eisenburg as DPR, god as am typing this I just never want it to happen...
The fuck are you saying? It would ironically be played by Cary Elwes.

Chaos
Title: Re: And Atlantis rose from the depths and washed away the road
Post by: danconia on May 01, 2013, 02:55 am
I know this isn't exactly your call... but I truly believe that there should be some kind of rule that Buyers must register on these boards somehow.

Anything that would encourage new users to visit this forum would help.  Heck on a successful registration page it could just have a very visible link to these forums.  Currently the forums link is just at the bottom of the page (and off to the right, if I remember correctly).
Title: Re: And Atlantis rose from the depths and washed away the road
Post by: jjandall on May 02, 2013, 11:58 am
Atlantis has a long way to go... They spent way too much time on making it pretty and not enough on making it easy to use...

From first glance, can't see the vendors name only the product... And the sorting of the products is gay (sorting by most common is better, shows who's more stable I reckon).

Then I closed it and went back to SR.. SR is comfortable.. Eat a dick Atlantis..
Title: Re: And Atlantis rose from the depths and washed away the road
Post by: AllDayLong on May 03, 2013, 03:31 am
Atlantis has a long way to go... They spent way too much time on making it pretty and not enough on making it easy to use...

From first glance, can't see the vendors name only the product... And the sorting of the products is gay (sorting by most common is better, shows who's more stable I reckon).

Then I closed it and went back to SR.. SR is comfortable.. Eat a dick Atlantis..
lol, that's cool, I haven't made an order either though I was tempted, but your reasoning is ridiculous.

"Hm, no I won't use this black market drug website because I don't like how they sort their products! So gay!"

Fuckin people, anyway they have more options than SR, but not the same ones which doesn't make sense since they copied everything else but idk.
Title: Re: And Atlantis rose from the depths and washed away the road
Post by: astor on May 03, 2013, 04:23 am
Atlantis has a long way to go... They spent way too much time on making it pretty and not enough on making it easy to use...

They didn't spend any time making it look pretty. Atlantis uses a web framework called Bootstrap: http://twitter.github.io/bootstrap/

So does Sheep marketplace (sheep5u64fi457aw.onion). Some people claim they are run by the same person because they look similar. No, they just use the same web framework with the same basic theme.

blockchain.info also uses Boostrap. Notice how the buttons and other elements look similar on all three sites?


How is the Atlantis difficult to use? It has the same basic functionality as SR, plus sort by price. :)
Title: Re: And Atlantis rose from the depths and washed away the road
Post by: MuddbuttJenkins on May 03, 2013, 05:42 am
Is it even as good as SR???
Title: Re: And Atlantis rose from the depths and washed away the road
Post by: Mcrad on May 03, 2013, 07:22 am
Atlantis has a long way to go... They spent way too much time on making it pretty and not enough on making it easy to use...

They didn't spend any time making it look pretty. Atlantis uses a web framework called Bootstrap: http://twitter.github.io/bootstrap/

So does Sheep marketplace (sheep5u64fi457aw.onion). Some people claim they are run by the same person because they look similar. No, they just use the same web framework with the same basic theme.

blockchain.info also uses Boostrap. Notice how the buttons and other elements look similar on all three sites?


How is the Atlantis difficult to use? It has the same basic functionality as SR, plus sort by price. :)

i prefer SR. though i have nothing against Atlantis Or BMR.

what is sheep marketplace ? i'v never heard of that one... the name seems very displeasing:P
Title: Re: And Atlantis rose from the depths and washed away the road
Post by: joolz on May 03, 2013, 08:32 am
why fix it if it aint broke
you get a lot more here and not only the buying shit. I dont know dpr pesonally  ;D but I trust them 100% & would rather he / they benefit from my coin.
ask yourself , can I / You  say that about Atlantisss ?
vive la reveloution  ;)
Title: Re: And Atlantis rose from the depths and washed away the road
Post by: nanpa2001 on May 03, 2013, 08:40 am
why fix it if it aint broke
you get a lot more here and not only the buying shit. I dont know dpr pesonally  ;D but I trust them 100% & would rather he / they benefit from my coin.
ask yourself , can I / You  say that about Atlantisss ?
vive la reveloution  ;)

On Atlantis you wrote that DPR and the admins on SR are scamming their users. Your username there was edar.

http://atlmlxbk2mbupwgr.onion/index.php?topic=134.msg853#msg853

yeh just hope this isnt scam city like Sr  :( & maybe just maybe every ones sick of the 2 forum mods and reporting vendors hundreds of times for scamming and nothign happens , all for the fee ofcourse
So dont be greedy like the sr fukers and let scam happen coz you get paid.
$8000 a day in fee,s and the cunt cant be nice to his customers  just laighs and says so what
Arsehole
the scam starts at the very top on The Scam Road.

Joolz, you are degenerate scum.
Title: Re: And Atlantis rose from the depths and washed away the road
Post by: joolz on May 03, 2013, 08:52 am
why fix it if it aint broke
you get a lot more here and not only the buying shit. I dont know dpr pesonally  ;D but I trust them 100% & would rather he / they benefit from my coin.
ask yourself , can I / You  say that about Atlantisss ?
vive la reveloution  ;)

On Atlantis you wrote that DPR and the admins on SR are scamming their users. Your username there was edar.

http://atlmlxbk2mbupwgr.onion/index.php?topic=134.msg853#msg853

yeh just hope this isnt scam city like Sr  :( & maybe just maybe every ones sick of the 2 forum mods and reporting vendors hundreds of times for scamming and nothign happens , all for the fee ofcourse
So dont be greedy like the sr fukers and let scam happen coz you get paid.
$8000 a day in fee,s and the cunt cant be nice to his customers  just laighs and says so what
Arsehole
the scam starts at the very top on The Scam Road.

Joolz, you are degenerate scum.
Thanks man   ;) machiavellian all the way.. Im a Sr homeboy mate your a As mod   :( so lets leave it at that.
Sr forever.
Title: Re: And Atlantis rose from the depths and washed away the road
Post by: samesamebutdifferent on May 03, 2013, 10:29 pm
joolz/edar... you just can't find a hidden service to suit your needs can you mate, paying out on SR and Atlantis, geeez it must be tough for you.

Why don't you go and create your own .onion site and forums where you can do all the modding, I will happily come in there and troll you for lulz.

 ;)

Title: Re: And Atlantis rose from the depths and washed away the road
Post by: scout on May 03, 2013, 10:33 pm
joolz = edar, no surprise there. 
Title: Re: And Atlantis rose from the depths and washed away the road
Post by: cantellya on May 04, 2013, 12:33 am
Quote
Cicero
April 13, 2013, 01:31:16 pm
In a word, yes. Moving forward, Atlantis will become the dominant market. In time, the reason for this will become apparent.

Saw this while lurking on the Atlantis forums. hmmm. foreshadowing?
Title: Re: And Atlantis rose from the depths and washed away the road
Post by: samesamebutdifferent on May 04, 2013, 12:44 am
and what is to stop whoever is attacking SR from taking down Atlantis with the same methods of attack? what makes Atlantis immune to this risk?
Title: Re: And Atlantis rose from the depths and washed away the road
Post by: Cawla on May 04, 2013, 12:58 am
I still think it's Atlantis doing the attack... What else makes sense? I'm happy with SR even if it's down a bit, the more people go to Atlantis the faster and more reliable SR will get, and the more likely attackers/LE will turn attention towards Atlantis. I can't see a day coming for a long time where the big 3 vendors I use pack up and leave SR and jump ship completely, and until that a little bit of downtime isn't shaking my loyalties.
Title: Re: And Atlantis rose from the depths and washed away the road
Post by: joolz on May 04, 2013, 02:54 am
Lads Im sr thru and thru I outed these so called folk / new site for what they are ,
 they were all hating Dpr saying Sr was this and that and I added to it knowing full well the real characters would come out and guess what they did... I then said ahah see & got banned get this for dissing Dp fuking legend R and not for asking why they let known scammers use atlantinooo
machiavellian all day every day bruv  8)
hey read my other posts I said your the best mods on the net coz you give as good as you get without banning  ;) and I was helping by pointing out the question people were asking but didnt want to , waana see the mail about ananas express of charasbros from other members? asking me why there still here coz they reported them and so did I , I said fuk it I,ll Ask
So lads sometimes I feel like kicking you up the arses but heres a hug
a lot of love for scout(even tho he did the dirty) and samesame from us  ;) how could anywhere be any better .
Sr all day  and pay these 2 legends(nearly) Sir.
Title: Re: And Atlantis rose from the depths and washed away the road
Post by: samesamebutdifferent on May 04, 2013, 04:19 am
Haha and there I was waiting for the kicker and it never came, thanks joolz ;-)

Title: Re: And Atlantis rose from the depths and washed away the road
Post by: bankofgt on May 04, 2013, 06:07 am
I still think it's Atlantis doing the attack... What else makes sense? I'm happy with SR even if it's down a bit, the more people go to Atlantis the faster and more reliable SR will get, and the more likely attackers/LE will turn attention towards Atlantis. I can't see a day coming for a long time where the big 3 vendors I use pack up and leave SR and jump ship completely, and until that a little bit of downtime isn't shaking my loyalties.

HISTORY REPEATS

Really bad sportsmanship this^^I thought BMR were more than likely responsible for congesting the main arterial roots  but after clogging into the Depths Of The Abyss I have changed weather... the forecast is clouded

Anyone ever heard of Max Ray Vision a Super Hacker who many black moons ago  was running CardersMarket (Skimming Credit Cards) took down most of the  rival competition because he could. ..the book is quite an entertaining read KINGPIN I think it's called.. Moral of the story Cryptography is unhackable  without a private key and a 28 word passphrase unless held at you will by middle eastern fanatics till you strike a chord in Russian... A date with the violin so to speak


Anyone else suffering cold turkey .. road rage without.. ? These copycats just don't cut the the mustard do they....



THERE IS NO SPOON

Title: Re: And Atlantis rose from the depths and washed away the road
Post by: Chaosforpeace on May 08, 2013, 02:50 am
why fix it if it aint broke
you get a lot more here and not only the buying shit. I dont know dpr pesonally  ;D but I trust them 100% & would rather he / they benefit from my coin.
ask yourself , can I / You  say that about Atlantisss ?
vive la reveloution  ;)
Die in a whole you two way tramp.
Your the kind of hooker that would charge extra for bareback, then right as you shut the door say, "you just paid extra for aids."

Chaos
Title: Re: And Atlantis rose from the depths and washed away the road
Post by: Chaosforpeace on May 08, 2013, 02:51 am
The kind of guy who would fuck a guy in the ass and not even have the common decency to give him a reach around.

Chaos
Title: Re: And Atlantis rose from the depths and washed away the road
Post by: joolz on May 08, 2013, 09:00 am
chaos that your feet sticking out atlantis ass   ;)
Title: Re: And Atlantis rose from the depths and washed away the road
Post by: jnemonic on May 08, 2013, 09:16 am
Well if Atlantis takes off, i can see LiteCoins gaining quite a lot in value. ;)

But never heard of it before till now, and they say they are cheaper.... ???

Well Atlantis has bugz? Clicked on an aussie vendor, and it said this vendor cannot ship to your country? ???

Title: Re: And Atlantis rose from the depths and washed away the road
Post by: Chaosforpeace on May 08, 2013, 11:49 pm
Well if Atlantis takes off, i can see LiteCoins gaining quite a lot in value. ;)

But never heard of it before till now, and they say they are cheaper.... ???

Well Atlantis has bugz? Clicked on an aussie vendor, and it said this vendor cannot ship to your country? ???
Even tho I truly believe Atlantis is going no where and is just a copy of the road, but much worse, seeing how the road is my religion, I still am planning on investing a good amount in litecoin. It's second to bitcoin so I see it doing well as an investment in the future

Chaos
Title: Re: And Atlantis rose from the depths and washed away the road
Post by: jnemonic on May 09, 2013, 12:02 am
Atlantis will grow dont worry. And Litecoin with it.

All these LTC investors, i bet they have never heard of Atlantis....yet.

Once they do, watch the value of ltc rocket to over $10-$15 a coin.
Title: Re: And Atlantis rose from the depths and washed away the road
Post by: Chaosforpeace on May 09, 2013, 02:56 am
Atlantis will grow dont worry. And Litecoin with it.

All these LTC investors, i bet they have never heard of Atlantis....yet.

Once they do, watch the value of ltc rocket to over $10-$15 a coin.
I'm pretty sure the only LTC investors are banking on Atlantis blowing up. Hence the investments.
Someone needs to explain to me how Atlantis will blow up as log as SR exists. I mean how??? Also BMR isn't small time.

Chaos
Title: Re: And Atlantis rose from the depths and washed away the road
Post by: jnemonic on May 09, 2013, 04:09 am
Well it was only Ebay at the start wasnt there? ;)

So watch it explode, also more room for competition, etc.

Again, they have implemented Litecoins. 8)

Nothing much to think about really.

And only $25 to become a seller.... ;)

Title: Re: And Atlantis rose from the depths and washed away the road
Post by: Chaosforpeace on May 09, 2013, 08:20 am
As far as I'm concerned eBay still is the only auction website. All of the others are just jokes. Except for the genuinely different ones. I know I purchased some weapons off ioffer pretty smoothly.

Chaos
Title: Re: And Atlantis rose from the depths and washed away the road
Post by: jnemonic on May 09, 2013, 08:30 am
You seem very negative about it?

The more the demographic grows, etc, there will be room.

Theres SR vendors on there, and why wouldnt they when its so cheap to become a vendor..

Title: Re: And Atlantis rose from the depths and washed away the road
Post by: joolz on May 09, 2013, 08:40 am
You seem very negative about it?

The more the demographic grows, etc, there will be room.

Theres SR vendors on there, and why wouldnt they when its so cheap to become a vendor..
what other auction site apart from ebay do you use mate?
Title: Re: And Atlantis rose from the depths and washed away the road
Post by: ktrustb on May 09, 2013, 12:19 pm
I had a look at their weed selection and it's not great. I couldn't switch to using that site even if I wanted to, as they sell nothing that I want.
Title: Re: And Atlantis rose from the depths and washed away the road
Post by: jnemonic on May 09, 2013, 12:27 pm
You seem very negative about it?

The more the demographic grows, etc, there will be room.

Theres SR vendors on there, and why wouldnt they when its so cheap to become a vendor..
what other auction site apart from ebay do you use mate?

Only ebay...but if ebay sold drugs..then it would be a different story i'd say...

Title: Re: And Atlantis rose from the depths and washed away the road
Post by: shimbabwe on May 09, 2013, 12:42 pm
I'm not an Atlantis fan I'm a litecoin fan.

Atlantis supports litecoin

therefore

I like Atlantis

if SR supported litecoin

no need to go to Atlantis

ya dig????/11!!?!?1!/!
Title: Re: And Atlantis rose from the depths and washed away the road
Post by: jnemonic on May 09, 2013, 12:49 pm
I'm not an Atlantis fan I'm a litecoin fan.

Atlantis supports litecoin

therefore

I like Atlantis

if SR supported litecoin

no need to go to Atlantis

ya dig????/11!!?!?1!/!

Oh i dig...and i have much more LTC than i do BTC, so hello Atlantis.

Title: Re: And Atlantis rose from the depths and washed away the road
Post by: shimbabwe on May 09, 2013, 01:16 pm
I wish Mt Gox would stop dicking around and realize they aren't the smoothest place to get coins from and if they aren't careful someone is going to usurp that title.

hopefully not btc-e but they do have the most coins for trade

although I wouldn't touch most of them with a thirty nine and a half foot pole
Title: Re: And Atlantis rose from the depths and washed away the road
Post by: joolz on May 09, 2013, 01:43 pm
You seem very negative about it?

The more the demographic grows, etc, there will be room.

Theres SR vendors on there, and why wouldnt they when its so cheap to become a vendor..
what other auction site apart from ebay do you use mate?

Only ebay...but if ebay sold drugs..then it would be a different story i'd say...
thats the point ....  sr sells drugs  so why should anybody want to go to another site
 you got ebid etc but you choose ebay , why  because you dont like other auction sites. same principle why use ebid/atlantis when you already got ebay / Sr who do exactly the same thing. but better...  ;)
Title: Re: And Atlantis rose from the depths and washed away the road
Post by: JezuzWazaMushroom on May 10, 2013, 10:49 pm
As far as I'm concerned eBay still is the only auction website. All of the others are just jokes. Except for the genuinely different ones. I know I purchased some weapons off ioffer pretty smoothly.

Chaos

Amazon is a joke, and by extension SR?  ???

Yeah, that's why it's worth more and makes more than eGay!  ::)

I think the only joke here is you, you fucking n00botron!  :P

- JWM  8)
Title: Re: And Atlantis rose from the depths and washed away the road
Post by: Diamond on June 13, 2013, 10:40 pm
Nothing wrong with competition, but it took a LONG time before I even had the confidence to get involved with SR, and will take a LONG time for some other place to displace the trust I now have.