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Market => Rumor mill => Topic started by: kneotac on September 27, 2013, 03:32 am
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Hiya community,
Trying to get the ball rolling on an SR exclusive CANNABIS CUP. Theillusivedeus and Deathowl1990 are happy helping out with logistics etc, so feel free to message them about the comp also.
I've only just suggested this idea yesterday, so still waiting to see some feedback, but at this stage the community think;
- Based in either US/CAN or EU (or both),
- Must be reputable vendors will good stats (100+ orders, 3 month minimum account age),
- Judges to be sent samples and must take photos and give in-depth smoke reports (scoring criteria -similar to real Cannabis Cup scoring sheet criteria (yet to list),
- Samples to be judged in groups (perhaps lots of 5) with winners from each group qualifying for final,
- Judges must be well respected known members of the community (verified by other members),
- Judges will be unaware who's weed they are testing to avoid collusion,
- Each entrant given a letter or number to identify and label their entries,
- Prize money / charity donation fund to be donated by community (judges to pay small fee for postage).
I'll update names of potential vendor entrants and judges; (P.M me or reply to the thread if you want to be added to either list).
Possible Vendor entrants;
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SAGreat (Australia)
CannabisKingdomSA (Australia)
Realdeals (EU)
Baroso (EU)
DutchMagic (EU)
Halfway Crooks (UK)
MrCronk (UK)
Wa1ter White (UK)
Buttonwood (USA)
EastCoastCollective (USA)
Angel Eyes (USA)
tweetb (USA)
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Possible Judges;
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Deathowl1990 (EU)
John Gotti (EU?)
Dondada (USA)
darkmagic65 (USA?)
Audio (EU)
Maxkeiser (EU?)
B D A (Australia)
therealzeticus (?)
turtle11 (US/CAN)
Heatfan (US)
Just Chipper (?)
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Cheers,
Kneo
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Interested to hear how you are setting this up. I might be interested in entering my Platinum Jack Herer™ and Lemon OG Kush™
Buttønwøød
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Hi Buttonwood,
Thx for your input and interest. I've added you to the list of potential vendor entrants - hope you don't mind.
This is all pie-in-the-sky stuff atm. I think we would need quite a lot of interest to bother....and just waiting to see if others such as yourself are interested in such a concept.
Kneo
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I accept the nomination and look forward to serving as an official judge.
how is the real CC judged? thinking here could designate folks and have an "approved" list of judges. This could be ten people or fifty people. Make three categories and have judges rate ##.# our of 10.0 points. With the appropriate math at the end having many reviewers is possible and might prove effective.
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I accept the nomination and look forward to serving as an official judge.
how is the real CC judged? thinking here could designate folks and have an "approved" list of judges. This could be ten people or fifty people. Make three categories and have judges rate ##.# our of 10.0 points. With the appropriate math at the end having many reviewers is possible and might prove effective.
We need a panel of judges not a crowd of judges. A smaller group seems more efficient.
A 100 point system seems to be accurate enough.
Also I would like to add the fact that I am located in Germany. For the vendors who dislike shipping to the USA/Canada or other way around, I can be a EU representative (Even though I'm not timid about getting international packages from any country as long as it is up to date on stealth methods)
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I think a smaller group of judges works best, too subjective if anyone can judge. Would need to be very experienced tokers and be nominated by a number of respected community members.
Anyone who wants to nominate themselves can, but keep in mind I'm thinking maybe 4 or 5 recommendations from respected members are required to verify a person eligible to judge. What do you think? Could work the same way for vendors who wish to enter?
Do you wish to be added to the list of possible judges Razerblade?
Kneo
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I think a smaller group of judges works best, too subjective if anyone can judge. Would need to be very experienced tokers and be nominated by a number of respected community members.
Anyone who wants to nominate themselves can, but keep in mind I'm thinking maybe 4 or 5 recommendations from respected members are required to verify a person eligible to judge. What do you think? Could work the same way for vendors who wish to enter?
Do you wish to be added to the list of possible judges Razerblade?
Kneo
Experienced tokers sounds good.
Getting feedback from the community is also a very good idea.
Vendors who wish to enter should have a certain number of transactions and no verified accusations of scamming/bad stealth. No newbie Vendors under 1 month.
As for Vendor recommendation I think it is unnecessary as long as the no newbies/unknown/bad rep vendors rule is in place.
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I'll add a poll for voting for nominated judges once we have a few more nominations :D
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And the Oscar goes tooooooooooooooooooooo Walter White for his amazing Nevilles Haze, LSD and g13 Haze.
There is no way it can be beat. if it does this gives the seller at least one new sale. But im pretty much sure this is untouched. I even believe there comes nothing close to it!
Congratz Walter. Its a hard task to get that price from me as i have tested a lot of stuff here :)
Cheers
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And the Oscar goes tooooooooooooooooooooo Walter White for his amazing Nevilles Haze, LSD and g13 Haze.
There is no way it can be beat. if it does this gives the seller at least one new sale. But im pretty much sure this is untouched. I even believe there comes nothing close to it!
Congratz Walter. Its a hard task to get that price from me as i have tested a lot of stuff here :)
Cheers
Sweet, might put Walter White down as a possible entrant. Would you be able to contact him on the main site to tell him about this pls?
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Hi Folks,
If you are reading this, and think your fav. cannabis vendor would be a worthy entrant, please contact them and let them know about the possibility of an SR CANNABIS CUP!
Kneo
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And the Oscar goes tooooooooooooooooooooo Walter White for his amazing Nevilles Haze, LSD and g13 Haze.
There is no way it can be beat. if it does this gives the seller at least one new sale. But im pretty much sure this is untouched. I even believe there comes nothing close to it!
Congratz Walter. Its a hard task to get that price from me as i have tested a lot of stuff here :)
Cheers
I can't find any listings for Walter White ???
Do you have an addy for his page?
Kneo
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4 possible vendor entries now.
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http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/user/1da45e7ec6 there u go
U gotta be quick if u want some of that tho. i believe he is almost out of it. It is PRICEY but worth it once every now and then :)
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ill be a judge
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I would be willing to be a judge as well. I buy a lot of weed from the road and have been here for over 2 years.
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Ive smoked weed for around 10 years now, and im pretty sure i know good weed from bad weed to ok weed,
I think i got the right skills for the job and im located in the u.s I can take high quality pics and ive been reviewing other weed vendors ive got from in the past buttonwood can vouch me for that and i think it would
be fun to compare a bunch of different kinds from sr ive never got a chance to do that before so yeah I wanna be a judge :)
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Nice Karma stats darkmagic65 ;D
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people love me what can I say
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all i know is eastcoastcollective should be involved b/c dude simply has the best cannabis, usa domestic, out of anyone else in the states on sr.....true heads, not California work trying to be passed off as heads or medi, like everything else on here.
eastcoastcollective's barney's lsd is phenomenal cannabis.
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A few more potential entrants / judges added, thx for the suggestions.
No offense DarkMagic, but I think those stats might put a few people off thinking you a suitable judge.
Kneo
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whats this karma have anything to do with someone who can make a legit review on product has has done so in the past and someone with a sr acc with good buyer stats I think I could do the job quite well...
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whats this karma have anything to do with someone who can make a legit review on product has has done so in the past and someone with a sr acc with good buyer stats I think I could do the job quite well...
Fair point, if you have good buyer stats and can make a good review you might be a good judge. I'll place you in the list and if this takes off and judges need to be elected, you will have your chance!
Kneo
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SAgreeat only ships to austrila
and realdeals only ships to Belgium and worldwide but not usa
w1alterwhite only ships to European union
so this is kind of an issue
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SAgreeat only ships to austrila
and realdeals only ships to Belgium and worldwide but not usa
w1alterwhite only ships to European union
so this is kind of an issue
If its a big problem and the vendors protest against sending to other countries then we will have to make 2 cups. 1 EU/rest and 1 USA/Canada
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Ill nominate Wa1ter Whites nevilles haze as the best ive ever smoked. Ill so put my name down for the judges pannel.
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I also already said in old topic that i would be interested to judge some samples, i am here on the road almost 2 years bought lots of weed, grew some weed and bought lots of it locally also i am from mid Europe (Slovakia).
EDIT: I also own this badass:
(CLEARNET!) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nikon_D3100
With both lens so no problem with HD photos :)
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SAgreeat only ships to austrila
and realdeals only ships to Belgium and worldwide but not usa
w1alterwhite only ships to European union
so this is kind of an issue
I realize some of the vendors are only domestic vendors, but most will probably be willing to ship to either EU/US as a one-off for the comp. I'm trying not to list any vendors who aren't keen to ship o/s for this. Generally I'm asking them via p.m if they're interested, and i'm adding their names if they reply that they are.
1 vendor and 2 judges added!
Please let me know where you are located (either US or EU) if I haven't listed your location.
Kneo
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I'd suggest making it 3 judges from EU and 3 from USA, no?
Well depends on what involved vendors and OP thinks about this, maybe go up to 5 :)
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I'd suggest making it 3 judges from EU and 3 from USA, no?
Well depends on what involved vendors and OP thinks about this, maybe go up to 5 :)
It might depend on how many vendor entrants we get. If there are only 10-20 entrants, we might only need 5 judges in total (2 EU, 2 US/CAN, 1 Rest of the world).
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We allowed to enter hash into this compo_
ACE
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We allowed to enter hash into this compo_
ACE
It would probably make sense to have a hash/bho section if enough vendors were keen - easier to send around the world if required.
Most hash doesn't have the photographic appeal of buds tho ::) And reviews and reports will have to feature high def. photos of buds.
What does everyone think? Hash/Oil section too?
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We allowed to enter hash into this compo_
ACE
It would probably make sense to have a hash/bho section if enough vendors were keen - easier to send around the world if required.
Most hash doesn't have the photographic appeal of buds tho ::) And reviews and reports will have to feature high def. photos of buds.
What does everyone think? Hash/Oil section too?
I wouldnt say that hash doesnt have any appealing physical features. We might require a group of judges for hash/oil and a group for buds?
Edit: I also agree with the fact that judges should upload HD photos. I for one could upload 1080p videos also.
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Maybe just hash and weed i think?
Oils aren't that popular in EU at all, also you can still take a photo of hash sliced thought.
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I am a 4th year comms major, along with a 15 year veteran to the marijuana game. I have spent about 20k on pot Products on the road. I would very much love to be a judge. I am known to be a pretty big Pot Snob.
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We allowed to enter hash into this compo_
ACE
It would probably make sense to have a hash/bho section if enough vendors were keen - easier to send around the world if required.
Most hash doesn't have the photographic appeal of buds tho ::) And reviews and reports will have to feature high def. photos of buds.
What does everyone think? Hash/Oil section too?
I think a hash section is an ACE idea :) Count us in with our new Power Widow if you go ahead. Ill put into the prize fund!
ACE
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I cant believe MrCronk is on the list. I would love to see pictures of what 5 buyers get buying his Amnesia and see how many out of the 5 actually receive the strain Amnesia.
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FLOWERS:
-indica-
-sativa-
-hybrid-
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BHO/CO2:
-indica-
-sativa-
-hybrid-
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FULL MELT BUBBLE (water extraction):
-indica-
-sativa-
-hybrid-
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oh, and i'd love to be a judge for the usa/canada entries.......any california work need not apply:)
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guys rather than having vendors submit there products (which will be the best of the batch), wouldn't it be better to buy anonymously?
Introduces some financing questions but would give a better idea of what the 'average' buyer would expect to receive, rather than the best bud the vendor has.
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I really like the idea! Thanks for the nomination guys!
I would be happy to send worldwide for the competition. I would prefer to keep the number of judges to 10 or 15 at most so i dont have to send out too much weed.
I also think that we need separate indica/sativa categories otherwise it's kinda hard to judge and really comes down to personal preference. The problem with more categories is that it most likely requires more entrants.
One way to get the prize money together would to be to charge for the judges passes but obviously they would be getting a load of weed for free so it would probably work out a good deal still.
It's come at a bit of a bad time for me as i have sold off most of my prize buds now and wont be harvesting for a while yet and then it wont be cured.... having said that, im sure i've got a few prize buds up my sleeves still ;)
One slight problem i have with making the competition properly blind judged is that some of the judges may have already bought the contestants buds. So they will know who's it is once they receive it. Not necessarily a bad thing as long as the person is objective and doesn't just side with the entrant because of other reasons than the bud is the best of the bunch.
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Buying judge's "passport" wouldn't be best idea i think, well maybe it would be but i can't afford it right now i spent all my leftover money on bud.
Anyone that resell could just buy it and get it that's difference between users that enjoy their weed and can judge it and between those who just can afford it at the moment.
I also involved a friend that introducted me to weed (he smokes like 15 years and me like 10) and he would offer me an appartment and would help me judge so we will write it up together (minimises personal preferences).
Well i'm not the one here that decides about criterias so only my 5 cents...
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One way or another we need to make sure the chosen judges and vendors are trusted by the community. Otherwise this is just another way for some sleazy people to get some free weed and for sleezy scammer vendors to get advertisement.
Beside the judges, the vendors should pay an entrance fee too. After all if this idea makes it big they will be getting a lot of mass advertising profits from this.
We collect the entrance fees from qualified and voted judges and vendors and voila we have prize money.
That prize money is split into escalating groups of 3 to award the top 3 winners
top winner gets 1/2 of the prize money
second winner gets 1/4 of the prize money
third winner gets 1/8 of the prize money
Thats just an example. Maybe not exactly with those numbers.
The entrance fee should be decided once we know how many vendors and judges we should have.
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I don't even know if vendors should actually get the prize, assuming they already make alot of money vending here (Think a little and you will discover that this is truth).
It should be donated to some drug supporting organisation like erowid.
Vendors will get not-so-small advertisement from this anyway i think.
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Depending on the vendors being used, I might want to be a judge. For what its worth - I participated in the 4/20 contest which turned out pretty well.
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I don't even know if vendors should actually get the prize, assuming they already make alot of money vending here (Think a little and you will discover that this is truth).
It should be donated to some drug supporting organisation like erowid.
Vendors will get not-so-small advertisement from this anyway i think.
Great idea actually!
But instead of an organisation like erowid we should concentrate on donating to a more public organisation. Cancer/AIDS other illnesses , homeless shelters..
In fact, GET DPR's CHUNKY ASS IN HERE!
This is a huge chance to show everyone the goodness of the people whom society deems as criminal scumbags and at the same time we can help out the poor souls in need.
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I don't even know if vendors should actually get the prize, assuming they already make alot of money vending here (Think a little and you will discover that this is truth).
It should be donated to some drug supporting organisation like erowid.
Vendors will get not-so-small advertisement from this anyway i think.
Great idea actually!
But instead of an organisation like erowid we should concentrate on donating to a more public organisation. Cancer/AIDS other illnesses , homeless shelters..
In fact, GET DPR's CHUNKY ASS IN HERE!
This is a huge chance to show everyone the goodness of the people whom society deems as criminal scumbags and at the same time we can help out the poor souls in need.
Thanks for improving my idea, like it even more :)
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Can I join pls ?
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Can I join pls ?
We haven't decided on anything yet. This thread is for ideas and "possible" participants.
We will make another thread for official entries to be voted on.
And as much as I don't like you, you still got your chance. So good luck and have fun.
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yea i'm really liking the idea of donating the prize money somewhere. Maybe to an organization of the winning vendors choice?
As for people who want to be judges, If you want to increase your chance of being a judge contact your favorite vendor and get them over here!!! We need to show them the community backing on this idea.
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I think the vendors bud must be reviewed world wide not just in there own country, from experience US bud would have the highest expectation on weed quality, thus giving a real level of where the vendors bud like mine (AUS) really sits in the world.
SAGreat
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I think some sort of fee for judges is reasonable. Maybe for the purposes of this comp, each vendor entrant will be given a payment for the samples they send out. I would think vendors would have to be willing to receive the same amount tho, regardless of how much their listings are.
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I think some sort of fee for judges is reasonable. Maybe for the purposes of this comp, each vendor entrant will be given a payment for the samples they send out. I would think vendors would have to be willing to receive the same amount tho, regardless of how much their listings are.
At the real cannabis cup, judge passes cost 250 euro and vendor passes cost 1000 for the first strain and 500 for each strain after. Of course we aren't that big. So maybe lets scale it down to 0.25btc for judges and 1.0 btc for vendor?
Once this starts rolling, vendors would already be getting huge attention from this thing. So I consider mass advertisement for the vendors a fair enough trade. We could gather up a decent sum. And this would help people out so much.
Its either prize money for the winning vendors - or - charity to people who are in dire need of it. Lets not turn this into a "everybody is a winner" contest.
Prize money OR charity collection?
Whats it going to be, guys?
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Love the idea, prize money should go to charity for sure.
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I think some sort of fee for judges is reasonable. Maybe for the purposes of this comp, each vendor entrant will be given a payment for the samples they send out. I would think vendors would have to be willing to receive the same amount tho, regardless of how much their listings are.
At the real cannabis cup, judge passes cost 250 euro and vendor passes cost 1000 for the first strain and 500 for each strain after. Of course we aren't that big. So maybe lets scale it down to 0.25btc for judges and 1.0 btc for vendor?
Once this starts rolling, vendors would already be getting huge attention from this thing. So I consider mass advertisement for the vendors a fair enough trade. We could gather up a decent sum. And this would help people out so much.
Its either prize money for the winning vendors - or - charity to people who are in dire need of it. Lets not turn this into a "everybody is a winner" contest.
Whats it going to be, guys?
TBH, i'm not sure vendors are going to be willing to PAY to enter this comp (well maybe the next cup after the success of this one ;-), I think we would have to expect any funds to come from judges and community donations - i'll look into setting up a wallet tonight.
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Hi!!
Great Idea.
Team Baroso will take part. We are a EU-based vendor, and we ship only into EU. But in this case, we would make an exception.
Currently, we have two strains in our drying-room: Deep Chunk and Bubblegum.
I think, that in about 3 or 4 weeks, wee are ready to reopen our shop on SR - we made a break from April till now.
We are a well reputated vendor, as you can see in our profile. And we are on SR since more than one and a half year:
http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/user/3c4d90813a
Let us know, what you need from us.
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Hi!!
Great Idea.
Team Baroso will take part. We are a EU-based vendor, and we ship only into EU. But in this case, we would make an exception.
Currently, we have two strains in our drying-room: Deep Chunk and Bubblegum.
I think, that in about 3 or 4 weeks, wee are ready to reopen our shop on SR - we made a break from April till now.
We are a well reputated vendor, as you can see in our profile. And we are on SR since more than one and a half year:
http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/user/3c4d90813a
Let us know, what you need from us.
Awesome! Welcome to the cup team Baroso! Those pics of buds on your page look pretty top-notch 8)
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Bitcoin wallet fund setup.
1QH2qbypzEKcFwHz3WUNazVh2hMAQVo9m9
I've deposited 0.05btc to get the ball rolling...
Wait wait wait oh ho ho.... As much as the community trusts you, you cant just set up a wallet and expect people to pay into it. We all need to vote on the guy who handles the money.
You're doing things too random and too rashly.
maybe 1 btc was too much. But you know what I mean. There should be a entry fee for both vendor and judge. Of course the judges get free samples and the vendors will get: popularity on this forum from reviews with pics and popularity on Reddit and other related sites where we market this to.
We could even make videos. That already seems like a fair trade to me? But If we include entrance fees we can also gather money to donate to charity.
It seems like to me you just want this to be a weed review thread? If I wanted to leave a review in exchange for a sample I would ask. Lets not turn this cup into a redneck beer chugging contest.
And MOST IMPORTANT, I want the community to vote on how this contest should go before we decide to start up wallets or anything.
edit: the more vendors/judges join, the less they have to pay, if we set a goal in how much we want to gather for charity.
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Bitcoin wallet fund setup.
1QH2qbypzEKcFwHz3WUNazVh2hMAQVo9m9
I've deposited 0.05btc to get the ball rolling...
Wait wait wait oh ho ho.... As much as the community trusts you, you cant just set up a wallet and expect people to pay into it. We all need to vote on the guy who handles the money.
You're doing things too random and too rashly.
maybe 1 btc was too much. But you know what I mean. There should be a entry fee for both vendor and judge. Of course the judges get free samples and the vendors will get: popularity on this forum from reviews with pics and popularity on Reddit and other related sites where we market this to.
We could even make videos. That already seems like a fair trade to me? But If we include entrance fees we can also gather money to donate to charity.
It seems like to me you just want this to be a weed review thread? If I wanted to leave a review in exchange for a sample I would ask. Lets not turn this cup into a redneck beer chugging contest.
And MOST IMPORTANT, I want the community to vote on how this contest should go before we decide to start up wallets or anything.
edit: the more vendors/judges join, the less they have to pay, if we set a goal in how much we want to gather for charity.
You're right about the wallet - I wouldn't trust a random anonymous person either!. I'll take that address down and wait until a mod comes along (have already messaged SSBD and Cirrus) and they can hold the funds in trust.
Dude - you need to chill-out and go smoke some weed.
Details will change on the opening comment as discussion on this thread dictates. It's really just there atm to give people some idea of what this is all about, nothing is in stone!
I don't agree judges get free samples. i think it fair to have to pay something to receive all this high quality ganja.
Peace,
Kneo
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Bitcoin wallet fund setup.
1QH2qbypzEKcFwHz3WUNazVh2hMAQVo9m9
I've deposited 0.05btc to get the ball rolling...
Wait wait wait oh ho ho.... As much as the community trusts you, you cant just set up a wallet and expect people to pay into it. We all need to vote on the guy who handles the money.
You're doing things too random and too rashly.
maybe 1 btc was too much. But you know what I mean. There should be a entry fee for both vendor and judge. Of course the judges get free samples and the vendors will get: popularity on this forum from reviews with pics and popularity on Reddit and other related sites where we market this to.
We could even make videos. That already seems like a fair trade to me? But If we include entrance fees we can also gather money to donate to charity.
It seems like to me you just want this to be a weed review thread? If I wanted to leave a review in exchange for a sample I would ask. Lets not turn this cup into a redneck beer chugging contest.
And MOST IMPORTANT, I want the community to vote on how this contest should go before we decide to start up wallets or anything.
edit: the more vendors/judges join, the less they have to pay, if we set a goal in how much we want to gather for charity.
You're right about the wallet - I wouldn't trust a random anonymous person either!. I'll take that address down and wait until a mod comes along (have already messaged SSBD and Cirrus) and they can hold the funds in trust.
Dude - you need to chill-out and go smoke some weed.
Details will change on the opening comment as discussion on this thread dictates. It's really just there atm to give people some idea of what this is all about, nothing is in stone!
I don't agree judges get free samples. i think it fair to have to pay something to receive all this high quality ganja.
Peace,
Kneo
So far, these are your ideas:
Each vendor gets paid a certain amount for their sample.
Each vendor must not pay any entrance fees.
Each judge pays for the weed.
Each judge pays an entrance fee.
And shortly after, you open a wallet and tell people to put money into it.
I am chill. But let me remind you that this idea is yours, however the community decides on 100% on the decisions.
You are turning a contest into a shady weed review thread.
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That means i'm kicked well good luck.
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so the judges pay the vendors for the samples?
ha, doesn't make sense.
entrance fees are understood, but there should not be extra costs for the judges to sample what the this proposed cup is all about...if a vendor chooses not to participate b/c of that then so be it.
it shouldn't be all one sided either, where the vendor is putting out all this personal cash to to participate in the SR Cannabis Cup- an entrance fee for the judges would cover shipping costs, that's fair imo.
and as stated earlier, the judges must have the capabilities to provide HD pictures/video (video would help, especially for the concentrates)
so how many judges? will that be based off of the # of vendors?
has it been decided if it is worldwide or usa/canada and EU? what if there were 2 separate cups, as stated earlier i believe; usa/canada cup and a eu cup? after both cups are finished, the top 3 from each cup now go up against each other for the world title?
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In the USA and would be a great judge.
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Alright gang, lets keep the ideas flowing!