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Discussion => Security => Topic started by: necrophiliac on September 21, 2013, 05:58 pm

Title: A VENDOR IS POSTING HIS CUSTOMERS TRACKING NUMBERS ON HIS DISCUSSION PAGE!
Post by: necrophiliac on September 21, 2013, 05:58 pm
http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/discussion/user/fc893579ed

http://anonmgur.com/up/[REDACTED]

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tigerrush
(vendor)
10h 49m old
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The guy that is bitching is kolkrush - Just because you are an ass and trying to make me look bad you made a very bad mistake my friend!

First package - [REDACTED]
[REDACTED] - 100% reship!

He recieved both tracking numbers the same day both were sent.. Just because the package goes to customs does NOT mean you will not get it! Unfortunately he just has not! Its not my fault! I even shipped from two seperate cities in China!


THIS IS A SECURITY PROBLEM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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So is posting the tracking numbers here! we appreciate the heads up but please do not make matters worse by making the security risk even bigger.

ssbd
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Title: Re: A VENDOR IS POSTING HIS CUSTOMERS TRACKING NUMBERS ON HIS DISCUSSION PAGE!
Post by: NorthernStar on September 21, 2013, 06:06 pm
Cheers for info, I don't know what's more disturbing your name or the security breach. Do you really want to make love to corpses??

How on earth haven't you been negged?
Title: Re: A VENDOR IS POSTING HIS CUSTOMERS TRACKING NUMBERS ON HIS DISCUSSION PAGE!
Post by: TheIllusiveDeus on September 21, 2013, 06:20 pm
umm dude. You should censor the tracking numbers in this post so LE doesn't see it.
Title: Re: A VENDOR IS POSTING HIS CUSTOMERS TRACKING NUMBERS ON HIS DISCUSSION PAGE!
Post by: necrophiliac on September 21, 2013, 06:23 pm
umm dude. You should censor the tracking numbers in this post so LE doesn't see it.
They are on his discussion page! http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/discussion/user/fc893579ed
Title: Re: A VENDOR IS POSTING HIS CUSTOMERS TRACKING NUMBERS ON HIS DISCUSSION PAGE!
Post by: poppermachine on September 21, 2013, 06:25 pm
umm dude. You should censor the tracking numbers in this post so LE doesn't see it.
They are on his discussion page! http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/discussion/user/fc893579ed

Why don't you post it on facebook and Reddit while your at it?
Title: Re: A VENDOR IS POSTING HIS CUSTOMERS TRACKING NUMBERS ON HIS DISCUSSION PAGE!
Post by: TheIllusiveDeus on September 21, 2013, 06:31 pm
dude please. stop you can't just be showing everyone this. -1 karma for you. The less people that see it the better.
Title: Re: A VENDOR IS POSTING HIS CUSTOMERS TRACKING NUMBERS ON HIS DISCUSSION PAGE!
Post by: uninfested on September 21, 2013, 06:40 pm
Why would you repost it publicly?
Why didn't you contact admins/mods directly?

Are you fucking high?
Title: Re: A VENDOR IS POSTING HIS CUSTOMERS TRACKING NUMBERS ON HIS DISCUSSION PAGE!
Post by: Bigsmokejay on September 21, 2013, 11:26 pm
What the hell dude, now you're no better than the vendor that posted the tracking numbers. Please edit your posts and try to speak asap to a mod.
Title: Re: A VENDOR IS POSTING HIS CUSTOMERS TRACKING NUMBERS ON HIS DISCUSSION PAGE!
Post by: DivineMomentsofTruth on September 21, 2013, 11:54 pm
OP Remove the post!

Why would you post the numbers, and not only do that but start a thread to draw even more attention to it, your first response to someone asking you to censor the numbers was, and I'm paraphrasing here but, "well it's already on discussion page so this is fine"

Why would you possibly want to draw more attention.  Contact the vendor privately, don't broadcast this shit to the world....i feel like I shouldn't even be bumping this thread.

i'm reporting to mods
Title: Re: A VENDOR IS POSTING HIS CUSTOMERS TRACKING NUMBERS ON HIS DISCUSSION PAGE!
Post by: ODB on September 21, 2013, 11:59 pm
Remove the tracking numbers OP, its bad enough the vendor is listing them on his discussion page, but now you have doubled if not tripled the problem with said tracking numbers being shown in your post and a title of the thread saying 'come look LE some tracking numbers to track'.

Honestly i hate to say this but common sense is going out the window on SR. (even worse than it was)
Title: Re: A VENDOR IS POSTING HIS CUSTOMERS TRACKING NUMBERS ON HIS DISCUSSION PAGE!
Post by: ODB on September 22, 2013, 12:03 am
Infact yes, remove the whole post, even without you posting the tracking numbers you have just made a thread labeled 'LE COME LOOK TRACKING NUMBERS' and then linked the place to go look.

The discussion thread is not names 'tracking numbers here' therefore you are putting ALOT more attention on the matter than is needed. As above poster said, you should have private messaged the vendor and contacted SR staff.

EDIT: You even took a screen shot so if the numbers do get removed they will still forever be on the interwebs, in before LE has that anonmgur saved on there bookmark bar. Good job OP you surely are a bright spark, and the fact that you have not compromised the vendor you have only compromised the buyer. I honestly cant believe it.

Title: Re: A VENDOR IS POSTING HIS CUSTOMERS TRACKING NUMBERS ON HIS DISCUSSION PAGE!
Post by: samesamebutdifferent on September 22, 2013, 01:50 am
Fucking hell, first post has been redacted but its been up for a while so the damage has already been done.

OP what were you thinking?
Title: Re: A VENDOR IS POSTING HIS CUSTOMERS TRACKING NUMBERS ON HIS DISCUSSION PAGE!
Post by: cirrus on September 22, 2013, 01:55 am
The discussion post has been deleted as well.  There's been several instances of this today... I'm also not sure what's going on around here or if there's a full moon out right now, but this a big NO NO people.
Title: Re: A VENDOR IS POSTING HIS CUSTOMERS TRACKING NUMBERS ON HIS DISCUSSION PAGE!
Post by: Libertas on September 22, 2013, 02:01 am
Please let me know of any instances of this in future as soon as possible.

'necrophiliac' consider this your first and only warning - posting tracking information (or any other revealing information) on the forums again will result in your account being deleted.

The vendor, 'tigerrush', has also received an official warning about this and any further breaches of the rules will result in his permanent demotion without warning.

Libertas
Title: Re: A VENDOR IS POSTING HIS CUSTOMERS TRACKING NUMBERS ON HIS DISCUSSION PAGE!
Post by: DrMDA on September 22, 2013, 02:02 am
Why has tigerrush not been banned as a vendor? His banning should have taken 2 fucking seconds.
Title: Re: A VENDOR IS POSTING HIS CUSTOMERS TRACKING NUMBERS ON HIS DISCUSSION PAGE!
Post by: DrMDA on September 22, 2013, 02:04 am
The vendor, 'tigerrush', has also received an official warning about this and any further breaches of the rules will result in his permanent demotion without warning.

Libertas

ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME????? A vendor posts his customers tracking number and order details all over the fucking internet and all he gets is a fucking WARNING????? ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING????!!!! He should be banned then ass raped with a bat!


Title: Re: A VENDOR IS POSTING HIS CUSTOMERS TRACKING NUMBERS ON HIS DISCUSSION PAGE!
Post by: Libertas on September 22, 2013, 02:13 am
The vendor, 'tigerrush', has also received an official warning about this and any further breaches of the rules will result in his permanent demotion without warning.

Libertas

ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME????? A vendor posts his customers personal information and address and order details all over the fucking internet and all he gets is a fucking WARNING????? ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING????!!!! He should be banned then ass raped with a bat!

No, I'm not "FUCKING KIDDING" you. The vendor did not post "his customers personal information and address and order details all over the fucking internet", that was in fact done by the OP. The vendor posted it on his discussion page, and I'm certain that that was an oversight on his part (with him thinking that it was "secure" for some ridiculous reason). Both the vendor and the OP have been given their first and only warnings about it, and to avoid any more drama that seems to be the flavor of the day lately that is all that I am going to be saying on the matter.

Libertas
Title: Re: A VENDOR IS POSTING HIS CUSTOMERS TRACKING NUMBERS ON HIS DISCUSSION PAGE!
Post by: DrMDA on September 22, 2013, 02:18 am
^^^ I'm sorry  but what exactly do you think a tracking number shows when it is pulled up by LE? HIS ADDRESS. And you are implying that tigerrush ACCIDENTALLY went into the discussion page, ACCIDENTALLY said 'hey look everyone fuck this guy',  and then ACCIDENTALLY pushed enter after entering all that?
Title: Re: A VENDOR IS POSTING HIS CUSTOMERS TRACKING NUMBERS ON HIS DISCUSSION PAGE!
Post by: cirrus on September 22, 2013, 02:24 am
^^^ I'm sorry  but what exactly do you think a tracking number shows when it is pulled up by LE? HIS ADDRESS. And you are implying that tigerrush ACCIDENTALLY went into the discussion page, ACCIDENTALLY said 'hey look everyone fuck this guy',  and then ACCIDENTALLY pushed enter after entering all that?

No, I believe Libertas was saying that tigerrush assumed that the messaging posts on the main site was more secure in some crazy way. Stupid, yes, but not all people know how dangerous tracking numbers can be.  A mistake that Libertas clearly said will not be allowed to happen again by either member.   
Title: Re: A VENDOR IS POSTING HIS CUSTOMERS TRACKING NUMBERS ON HIS DISCUSSION PAGE!
Post by: BTCB on September 22, 2013, 03:04 am
This is why we as new vendors refuse to give tracking for the buyer,vendor and SR safety, people please think!

Also out of all honesty anyone being sloppy should think, as the superman quote has been quoted...

or as DPR has put it , read the knowledge folks....

we have heard some stories of a buyer tracking a package that was caught, it can tie to ip..so for your safety,vendors and sr....NO TRACKING INFO public or displayed or messaged. Even PGP has been questioned...
Title: Re: A VENDOR IS POSTING HIS CUSTOMERS TRACKING NUMBERS ON HIS DISCUSSION PAGE!
Post by: somewhere27 on September 22, 2013, 07:04 am
Cheers for info, I don't know what's more disturbing your name or the security breach. Do you really want to make love to corpses??

How on earth haven't you been negged?


hahahahahahahhaha wow funny post,,

 Whats negged mean?  (It sounds funny, and actually sounds like it fits perfectly in your post, but you dont have to answer)

LOLOLOLOLOL I think the OP name is more disturbing, but its tough



Title: Re: A VENDOR IS POSTING HIS CUSTOMERS TRACKING NUMBERS ON HIS DISCUSSION PAGE!
Post by: Candy on September 22, 2013, 01:10 pm
Whats negged mean?

I believe that "being negged", means being giving negative karma.
Title: Re: A VENDOR IS POSTING HIS CUSTOMERS TRACKING NUMBERS ON HIS DISCUSSION PAGE!
Post by: Kundalini95 on September 23, 2013, 11:38 am
Tracking should only be used by vendors themselves imho as a scamming precaution. Though best would be to use no tracking at all.
Title: Re: A VENDOR IS POSTING HIS CUSTOMERS TRACKING NUMBERS ON HIS DISCUSSION PAGE!
Post by: samesamebutdifferent on September 23, 2013, 12:29 pm
Tracking should only be used by vendors themselves imho as a scamming precaution. Though best would be to use no tracking at all.

Are you really into Kundalini? sorry had to ask
Title: Re: A VENDOR IS POSTING HIS CUSTOMERS TRACKING NUMBERS ON HIS DISCUSSION PAGE!
Post by: boysen on September 23, 2013, 02:00 pm
Why has tigerrush not been banned as a vendor? His banning should have taken 2 fucking seconds.

Yeah, security breaches like this shouldn't result in a warning or even a slap on the wrist. Deserves to be demoted.
Title: Re: A VENDOR IS POSTING HIS CUSTOMERS TRACKING NUMBERS ON HIS DISCUSSION PAGE!
Post by: dubsick on September 23, 2013, 02:56 pm
I am glad i didnt order from him. He said his suppliers just learned to use PGP so that means he hasnt been using PGP this whole time.
- Someone is currently trying to blackmail me due to a CD that happened a few weeks ago during that customs ordeal recently..  Many big vendors were targeted including mine.  Since then my vendors have learned how to use PGP.  Just wanted it to be known that you may see some bad feedback here soon due to because they wanted more money besides the 50% that I gave them already.
Title: Re: A VENDOR IS POSTING HIS CUSTOMERS TRACKING NUMBERS ON HIS DISCUSSION PAGE!
Post by: gn0ssos on September 23, 2013, 03:04 pm
Wow... a little common sense goes a long way, everyone. ;)
Title: Re: A VENDOR IS POSTING HIS CUSTOMERS TRACKING NUMBERS ON HIS DISCUSSION PAGE!
Post by: DrMDA on September 23, 2013, 03:56 pm
Why has tigerrush not been banned as a vendor? His banning should have taken 2 fucking seconds.

Yeah, security breaches like this shouldn't result in a warning or even a slap on the wrist. Deserves to be demoted.

Boysen you must not have noticed that tigerrush is a top %3 vendor. As we have seen with FE scams buyer safety doesn't mean anything if much money is being made for SR.
Title: Re: A VENDOR IS POSTING HIS CUSTOMERS TRACKING NUMBERS ON HIS DISCUSSION PAGE!
Post by: Libertas on September 23, 2013, 04:23 pm
Why has tigerrush not been banned as a vendor? His banning should have taken 2 fucking seconds.

Yeah, security breaches like this shouldn't result in a warning or even a slap on the wrist. Deserves to be demoted.

Boysen you must not have noticed that tigerrush is a top %3 vendor. As we have seen with FE scams buyer safety doesn't mean anything if much money is being made for SR.

DrMDA, you must not have noticed the recent demotions of top 3% vendors for breaking the rules. The rules apply to all vendors regardless of their position or rank. Regarding "FE scams", they can be very hard to prove and we do not take action without solid evidence. When a buyer finalizes their order they are stating to the order system that it has been received, they are fully satisfied with it and the order is complete. That is why we cannot offer assistance to buyers that FE. Those buyers must also contact SR Support if they feel that they have been scammed. We look into all reports of scamming behavior by vendors.

On the flip side, however, I'm sure that as a vendor you wouldn't want a system in place whereby one or two reports of you FE scamming resulted in your demotion. We cannot demote without solid evidence, and that solid evidence can be hard to find when a vendor is accused of FE scamming. If buyers followed the advice in the Buyer's Guide, the Wiki, DPR's welcome message and the forums to stay escrow there wouldn't be any FE scams - with that in mind, your little "buyer safety doesn't mean anything if much money is being made for SR" comment is ridiculous and entirely unwarranted.

Libertas
Title: Re: A VENDOR IS POSTING HIS CUSTOMERS TRACKING NUMBERS ON HIS DISCUSSION PAGE!
Post by: boysen on September 23, 2013, 04:28 pm
Boysen you must not have noticed that tigerrush is a top %3 vendor. As we have seen with FE scams buyer safety doesn't mean anything if much money is being made for SR.
It could easily seem like that would sway their decision but I'm not going to speculate so I won't go there.

All I think is that security is priority number one, it should be for everyone, and it's the one place where we have to be _strict_. I don't care if it's me, someone I hate, my favorite vendor, the biggest vendor on here or just a nobody. Security breach that puts someone in danger = get the fuck out. It shouldn't happen, what so ever. Basically zero tolerance policies on security breaches, that's the only way to stop them from happening. When you know if you leak shit or do something stupid you're gone, shit like this just doesn't happen.
Title: Re: A VENDOR IS POSTING HIS CUSTOMERS TRACKING NUMBERS ON HIS DISCUSSION PAGE!
Post by: Buzzer on September 23, 2013, 09:41 pm
agreed, this vendor needs to be banned ASAP.... are you kidding me?  What could be more serious of an offense than this?
Title: Re: A VENDOR IS POSTING HIS CUSTOMERS TRACKING NUMBERS ON HIS DISCUSSION PAGE!
Post by: Kundalini95 on September 23, 2013, 10:30 pm
Tracking should only be used by vendors themselves imho as a scamming precaution. Though best would be to use no tracking at all.

Are you really into Kundalini? sorry had to ask

Well if you mean Kundalini as in shakti and not Kundalini Yoga then Yes.
Title: Re: A VENDOR IS POSTING HIS CUSTOMERS TRACKING NUMBERS ON HIS DISCUSSION PAGE!
Post by: samesamebutdifferent on September 23, 2013, 11:40 pm
Tracking should only be used by vendors themselves imho as a scamming precaution. Though best would be to use no tracking at all.

Are you really into Kundalini? sorry had to ask

Well if you mean Kundalini as in shakti and not Kundalini Yoga then Yes.

Yes I meant shakti, good for you.
Title: Re: A VENDOR IS POSTING HIS CUSTOMERS TRACKING NUMBERS ON HIS DISCUSSION PAGE!
Post by: Aurelius Venport on September 24, 2013, 04:06 am
umm dude. You should censor the tracking numbers in this post so LE doesn't see it.
They are on his discussion page! http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/discussion/user/fc893579ed

Why don't you post it on facebook and Reddit while your at it?

We see everything Popper.

Regards,

George.
Title: Re: A VENDOR IS POSTING HIS CUSTOMERS TRACKING NUMBERS ON HIS DISCUSSION PAGE!
Post by: TheIllusiveDeus on September 24, 2013, 05:10 am
my question is what does op have to say for themselves? imo this shit should be insta-ban so you can start a presedent and make sure this shit just doesn't happen in the future. This may be only a minor security breach but with the level of risk we work with I think it's worth it to be sever in punishment.
Title: Re: A VENDOR IS POSTING HIS CUSTOMERS TRACKING NUMBERS ON HIS DISCUSSION PAGE!
Post by: nosajorolok on September 24, 2013, 09:14 am
This just blows me away that people are this dumb. A tracking number gives FE literally everything they need to fuck you over. Now, granted, I don't think tracking numbers on SR are a bad thing. I think vendors should use them to avoid being scammed, and I'm always VERY pleased to receive a tracking number myself, so I can check on the status of my order (because I'm an impatient little fuck) xD. The numbers themselves aren't the problem, it's the fucking retards like the vendor and the OP that make stupid mistakes like this. If you get a tracking #, DON'T use Tor to check it, DON'T show anyone, and for Christ's sake, just be smart.

Remember guys, guns don't kill people, people kill people.
Title: Re: A VENDOR IS POSTING HIS CUSTOMERS TRACKING NUMBERS ON HIS DISCUSSION PAGE!
Post by: morrisen on September 24, 2013, 11:13 pm
I can not believe that this vendor was not suspended!!
I 'm sure that was no accident and no coincidence.

@Libertas:

Usually I like your posts, you seem to be a very righteous person.

But with respect to the FE-incidents, I would say a (month) ban for Vendors requesting FE.
So you need not to deal with the proofing of an FE-scam!

Particular cause DPR, wiki and others are warning to do FE - just forbid to request FE!
It could be so easy...

Long lives the SR-community!!
Title: Re: A VENDOR IS POSTING HIS CUSTOMERS TRACKING NUMBERS ON HIS DISCUSSION PAGE!
Post by: DrMDA on September 25, 2013, 02:50 am

Particular cause DPR, wiki and others are warning to do FE - just forbid to request FE!


It already is forbidden for new vendors but SR just does not enforce it even when they are repeatedly notified of it. It is stupid to forbid FE for experienced vendors though because otherwise new users will have a very hard time scoring any orders with anyone decent.
Title: Re: A VENDOR IS POSTING HIS CUSTOMERS TRACKING NUMBERS ON HIS DISCUSSION PAGE!
Post by: GrimWaldo on September 26, 2013, 12:50 am
Holy Shit... you gotta be kiddin' me.
Seller is a fool. I can't believe a top 3% vendor would be so reckless, and I have a hard time believing that they didn't know better.
But OP is a complete and utter retard! Really?! Just post it right there at the top of your thread? Sure, why not... they say it pays to advertise. Can you really be this stupid?
This whole mess is the OP's fault. Had forum member 'ifuckdeadpeople' just messaged the vendor and administrator the chances of LE ever seeing this would've been very low. Now it's almost certain. What a total moron.

I hope that the buyers in question have been notified about their situation. They may want to prepare for the worst, especially if they ordered larger quantities. Yikes.
As stated, the vendor should have known better (the Discussion Page is secure?)... but no one would have noticed had it not been for the empty-headed OP that screamed it for the whole world to hear. God, that just pisses me off.
Title: Re: A VENDOR IS POSTING HIS CUSTOMERS TRACKING NUMBERS ON HIS DISCUSSION PAGE!
Post by: abrakadabra on September 28, 2013, 09:50 am
I noticed that tiger is (or at least was) offering to sell btc at 0% commission through western union,  that my friend is a sure way to get yourself caught. How easy it would be for LE 
Title: Re: A VENDOR IS POSTING HIS CUSTOMERS TRACKING NUMBERS ON HIS DISCUSSION PAGE!
Post by: poppermachine on September 30, 2013, 06:10 am
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