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Discussion => Silk Road discussion => Topic started by: abby on August 21, 2013, 07:19 pm
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well, it could have been worse...
http://www.theguardian.com/world/shortcuts/2013/aug/21/dread-pirate-roberts-silk-road
the formatting has been lost sadly but this is a Q&A, you might be better off reading it on the website.
Why is the man behind the Silk Road drugs website speaking to the press?
Dread Pirate Roberts a real-life libertarian hero to the drugs community, but to the law enforcement agencies he's the mastermind behind a global drugs trafficking website
Name: Dread Pirate Roberts.
Age: Unknown.
Appearance: Unknown.
Oo, I know! I know! He's the masked, blousoned crusader of the high seas who underneath looks a lot like Cary Elwes! In The Princess Bride!
It's not that one. We're talking about the owner of the two-year-old Silk Road website who has just given his first major interview to Forbes magazine.
What have pirates got to do with what is presumably an online resource for fans of ancient trade routes?
Actually, Silk Road is an online black market in drugs. You pays your Bitcoin and you takes your vacuum-packed, discreetly labelled, standard US postal service-delivered choice.
Oh. Well, yes, that does make the whole thing a bit more piratical.
As the fictional Dread Pirate is a persona handed down through generations, the name has excited the Silk Road community, which thinks it suggests that the current boss inherited the title from another founder and/or that he is not one man but many.
Hearing other people's drug-fuelled conspiracy theories is almost as boring as hearing about their dreams. Truly.
Mr D P Roberts, however, describes himself or himselves as a radical libertarian revolutionary and a "centre of trust" for all Silk Road's otherwise decentralised operations.
What a nice way of putting it. Tell me, is the online drugs trade as lucrative as its real-life counterpart?
Silk Road is estimated to have an annual revenue of $30m-$45m through its 10% commission on sales. What the profits may be on the amount of Bitcoin it has amassed – the online currency has appreciated nearly 200-fold against those moribund greenbacks – nobody knows.
Once again, I find myself in the wrong – legal, reputable – job.
Dread Pirate Robert believes himself engaged in the entirely reputable – nay, noble – business of empowering citizens.
Oh yes?
"The people can now control flow and distribution of information and the flow of money," he says. "Sector by sector, the state is being cut out of the equation."
I believe that is just what the average crackhead is jonesing for. And is this how US drug and law enforcement agencies feel about him too?
No. They are trying to find him and shut the site down, but so far both have remained too well hidden.
Do say: "Chillax, bro."
Don't say: "It's The Wire(less broadband)!"
edited to try to make it more readable.. and I suspect I failed miserably.
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Well spotted +1...It's a shame they had to print in the guise Q&A. At least the Mail has the respect to print full article. The Gaurdian used to be a working class paper.
How they have crept far right.
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Well, it's moved to the international chattering classes now. The Indy is better for social justice stuff these days (only just some days, I grant you).
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It's the guardian.
On one side they're the noble supporters of Snowden. On the other, they're the stout defenders of our present government and its systems.
It's no different at Forbes or anywhere else. Someone is probably penning something and submitting it at forbes every week, as a counter to the article. We might see one, in an issue following. I intend on picking up the following issue, as I'm sure readers are going to have a LOT to say.
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Forbes guy is talking about DPR and SR on NPR now.
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Forbes guy is talking about DPR and SR on NPR now.
Greenberg is?
Really. I don't have the ability to listen right now, I'll have to grab the recording later.
In what kind of light? You should post this in the main thread.
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Forbes guy is talking about DPR and SR on NPR now.
Greenberg is?
Really. I don't have the ability to listen right now, I'll have to grab the recording later.
In what kind of light? You should post this in the main thread.
Yes, he was one of four guests.They touched defferent points. Tor, SR and what the government is propably doing about it. The program called: To the point on PRI.
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The Guardian got DPR's twitter account wrong. That's a fake account.
Haha.
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Lol....
By the way, that's a sexy picture of you DPR...or shall I say, ZORO!
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Well, there was nothing humorous at all about that Q&A
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That's what passes for humour at the Guardian.. Their pass notes are always that gauche.
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Do you think that SR is going to become even more of a target once the article gets published in ***FORBES*** on 9/2? They've taken down their #1 targer FH/Tormail...so it does worry me. Why the interviews? I prefer low profile..
But I know DPR has an agenda to express his viewpoints and to change the world, and with that in mind he must feel very confident in the security of SR to do an interview with Forbes,..
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Do you think that SR is going to become even more of a target once the article gets published in ***FORBES*** on 9/2? They've taken down their #1 targer FH/Tormail...so it does worry me. Why the interviews? I prefer low profile..
But I know DPR has an agenda to express his viewpoints and to change the world, and with that in mind he must feel very confident in the security of SR to do an interview with Forbes,..
I don't like too much attention on SR at the best of times but I think we have gone way past hiding in the shadows of the dark web. SR stands for so much more than just scoring drugs and you can be sure the powers that be will be way more concerned about what this place represents over the selling of drugs in the mail system. They will be scared because we have found a way of making them irrelevant and scared people do irrational things, going more mainstream now just takes it to the next logical progression in its journey, we can't stay hidden forever and as SR gains notoriety it will force the arguments out into the open. Governments will say "but drugs are bad and evil, we must protect you from yourselves" however if we catch you buying or selling drugs we will lock you up and destroy your life because we care so much about you.
The blinding hypocrisy of current drug legislation is so obvious to many but not all, time to stand up and be counted. I am an adult and I can decide for myself what substances I choose to put into my own body thank you very fucking much. If you normally help vote 'tough on crime' bullshit politicians into positions of government and you like what SR stands for then you might want to rethink your political allegiances next time you are in the ballot booth.
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"Chillax, bro." i can't even count the number of times i have read those very words on here. incredible insight.
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"Chillax, bro." i can't even count the number of times i have read those very words on here. incredible insight.
I know, its like they are one of us and so understand how we communicate hey.
Anyone using those words in a sentence or post should immediately shoot themselves in the face at point blank range. Harsh I know but it is the only honorable thing to do.
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Is there still a good influx of newcomers to SR? I feel like I came in at the tail end of the plateau of SR's buzz.
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Do you think that SR is going to become even more of a target once the article gets published in ***FORBES*** on 9/2? They've taken down their #1 targer FH/Tormail...so it does worry me. Why the interviews? I prefer low profile..
But I know DPR has an agenda to express his viewpoints and to change the world, and with that in mind he must feel very confident in the security of SR to do an interview with Forbes,..
I don't like too much attention on SR at the best of times but I think we have gone way past hiding in the shadows of the dark web. SR stands for so much more than just scoring drugs and you can be sure the powers that be will be way more concerned about what this place represents over the selling of drugs in the mail system. They will be scared because we have found a way of making them irrelevant and scared people do irrational things, going more mainstream now just takes it to the next logical progression in its journey, we can't stay hidden forever and as SR gains notoriety it will force the arguments out into the open. Governments will say "but drugs are bad and evil, we must protect you from yourselves" however if we catch you buying or selling drugs we will lock you up and destroy your life because we care so much about you.
The blinding hypocrisy of current drug legislation is so obvious to many but not all, time to stand up and be counted. I am an adult and I can decide for myself what substances I choose to put into my own body thank you very fucking much. If you normally help vote 'tough on crime' bullshit politicians into positions of government and you like what SR stands for then you might want to rethink your political allegiances next time you are in the ballot booth.
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it's not the drugs it is the power to do what we want with nobody to interfere. bitcoin is scary to the 1% for the same reason. so many attacks on the base of power make them very nervous.
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"Chillax, bro." i can't even count the number of times i have read those very words on here. incredible insight.
I know, its like they are one of us and so understand how we communicate hey.
Anyone using those words in a sentence or post should immediately shoot themselves in the face at point blank range. Harsh I know but it is the only honorable thing to do.
Whoa now that's a little extreme don't ya think? You need to chillax, bro.
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"Chillax, bro." i can't even count the number of times i have read those very words on here. incredible insight.
I know, its like they are one of us and so understand how we communicate hey.
Anyone using those words in a sentence or post should immediately shoot themselves in the face at point blank range. Harsh I know but it is the only honorable thing to do.
Whoa now that's a little extreme don't ya think? You need to chillax, bro.
Hahahahaha sometimes extreme measures are called for, you better be about to shoot yourself HEATfan, save what little dignity you have left after posting those words, shame on you ;)
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"Chillax, bro." i can't even count the number of times i have read those very words on here. incredible insight.
I know, its like they are one of us and so understand how we communicate hey.
Anyone using those words in a sentence or post should immediately shoot themselves in the face at point blank range. Harsh I know but it is the only honorable thing to do.
Whoa now that's a little extreme don't ya think? You need to chillax, bro.
Hahahahaha sometimes extreme measures are called for, you better be about to shoot yourself HEATfan, save what little dignity you have left after posting those words, shame on you ;)
dude! take a chill pill haha
next weeks headline "silk road mod uncharacteristically not chillaxin' says we should buy guns from soon to reopen armory to shoot ourselves". i know, i have a knack for pithy, attention grabbing headlines.
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Dude if you use the words "chill pill" again I will ban you, the only thing between you and starting over in newbie purgatory is a swift and resounded apology swearing never to utter such words again in IRL or on the forums.
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Do you think that SR is going to become even more of a target once the article gets published in ***FORBES*** on 9/2? They've taken down their #1 targer FH/Tormail...so it does worry me. Why the interviews? I prefer low profile..
But I know DPR has an agenda to express his viewpoints and to change the world, and with that in mind he must feel very confident in the security of SR to do an interview with Forbes,..
SR stands for so much more than just scoring drugs and you can be sure the powers that be will be way more concerned about what this place represents over the selling of drugs in the mail system. They will be scared because we have found a way of making them irrelevant and scared people do irrational things, going more mainstream now just takes it to the next logical progression in its journey, we can't stay hidden forever and as SR gains notoriety it will force the arguments out into the open.
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I completely agree with everything you've said.
However, I can't help but imagine some examples of those arguments as SR becomes more mainstream.
Such as the mother who's gonna go on TV and talk about her child ODing on something he got off here. Next thing you know she's got a MASR (Mothers Against Silk Road) foundation up and running, raising hell to get this place shut down.
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Dude if you use the words "chill pill" again I will ban you, the only thing between you and starting over in newbie purgatory is a swift and resounded apology swearing never to utter such words again in IRL or on the forums.
i extend my deepest apologies sir, i will do everything within my power to ensure my name will not become further sullied by the use of such inflammatory language.
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Do you think that SR is going to become even more of a target once the article gets published in ***FORBES*** on 9/2? They've taken down their #1 targer FH/Tormail...so it does worry me. Why the interviews? I prefer low profile..
But I know DPR has an agenda to express his viewpoints and to change the world, and with that in mind he must feel very confident in the security of SR to do an interview with Forbes,..
SR stands for so much more than just scoring drugs and you can be sure the powers that be will be way more concerned about what this place represents over the selling of drugs in the mail system. They will be scared because we have found a way of making them irrelevant and scared people do irrational things, going more mainstream now just takes it to the next logical progression in its journey, we can't stay hidden forever and as SR gains notoriety it will force the arguments out into the open.
+1
I completely agree with everything you've said.
However, I can't help but imagine some examples of those arguments as SR becomes more mainstream.
Such as the mother who's gonna go on TV and talk about her child ODing on something he got off here. Next thing you know she's got a MASR (Mothers Against Silk Road) foundation up and running, raising hell to get this place shut down.
No one ever said it was going to be without its challenges, not sure what is more scary, the NSA or MASR, I bet the will have some formidable rhetoric ;)
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Dude if you use the words "chill pill" again I will ban you, the only thing between you and starting over in newbie purgatory is a swift and resounded apology swearing never to utter such words again in IRL or on the forums.
i extend my deepest apologies sir, i will do everything within my power to ensure my name will not become further sullied by the use of such inflammatory language.
Apology accepted, glad you came around to my way of thinking on the matter, now all that is done and taken care of we can chillax to the MAX.
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Dude if you use the words "chill pill" again I will ban you, the only thing between you and starting over in newbie purgatory is a swift and resounded apology swearing never to utter such words again in IRL or on the forums.
i extend my deepest apologies sir, i will do everything within my power to ensure my name will not become further sullied by the use of such inflammatory language.
Apology accepted, glad you came around to my way of thinking on the matter, now all that is done and taken care of we can chillax to the MAX.
I ain't apologizing cuz I prefer to chill like a villain.
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Dude if you use the words "chill pill" again I will ban you, the only thing between you and starting over in newbie purgatory is a swift and resounded apology swearing never to utter such words again in IRL or on the forums.
i extend my deepest apologies sir, i will do everything within my power to ensure my name will not become further sullied by the use of such inflammatory language.
Apology accepted, glad you came around to my way of thinking on the matter, now all that is done and taken care of we can chillax to the MAX.
I ain't apologizing cuz I prefer to chill like a villain.
That doesn't even rhyme HEATFan, try harder or apologize, I could ban you too you know.
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This thread is full of derp.
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This thread is full of derp.
Well thank god you are here to save the day
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This thread is full of derp.
Well thank god you are here to save the day
You believe in god?
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This thread is full of derp.
Well thank god you are here to save the day
You believe in god?
No but I believe in you, save us from the derp please
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Dude if you use the words "chill pill" again I will ban you, the only thing between you and starting over in newbie purgatory is a swift and resounded apology swearing never to utter such words again in IRL or on the forums.
i extend my deepest apologies sir, i will do everything within my power to ensure my name will not become further sullied by the use of such inflammatory language.
Apology accepted, glad you came around to my way of thinking on the matter, now all that is done and taken care of we can chillax to the MAX.
I ain't apologizing cuz I prefer to chill like a villain.
That doesn't even rhyme HEATFan, try harder or apologize, I could ban you too you know.
Shit, you're right. I could've rhymed that better. Let me try again...
Yo yo my name is Dylan, my last rhyme wasn't fulfillin, but this one's gonna be thrillin', cuz I jacked all the world's penicillin, and now I'm sittin' here chillin', to give it all back I'm unwillin', cuz I'm a muthafuckin' villain.
Yeah you can ban me now.
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Dude if you use the words "chill pill" again I will ban you, the only thing between you and starting over in newbie purgatory is a swift and resounded apology swearing never to utter such words again in IRL or on the forums.
i extend my deepest apologies sir, i will do everything within my power to ensure my name will not become further sullied by the use of such inflammatory language.
Apology accepted, glad you came around to my way of thinking on the matter, now all that is done and taken care of we can chillax to the MAX.
I ain't apologizing cuz I prefer to chill like a villain.
That doesn't even rhyme HEATFan, try harder or apologize, I could ban you too you know.
Shit, you're right. I could've rhymed that better. Let me try again...
Yo yo my name is Dylan, my last rhyme wasn't fulfillin, but this one's gonna be thrillin', cuz I jacked all the world's penicillin, and now I'm sittin' here chillin', to give it all back I'm unwillin', cuz I'm a muthafuckin' villain.
Yeah you can ban me now.
Better but fuck me HEATFan did you have to go there, really? I'm off this thread and remember its point blank in the face for maximum redemption, don't go just shooting your ear off or some shit, coming back here looking all Vincent Willem van Gogh now, won't win you any friends.
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I knew i could get this thread going somewhere positive ;)
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I knew i could get this thread going somewhere positive ;)
I love how you take all the credit without even saying anything funny, derp derp
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You know, I can rap too...
Now everybody in the 202
throw your hands in the air 'cause Fat Joe is through
Now everybody in the 202
throw 'em up!
Check it out
I'm a white boy, but my neck is red
I put Miracle Whip on my Wonder Bread
My face is pale, nah, I've never been in jail
Me and Buffy spend every winter at Vail
How many b*tches have I slapped? Zero. Unh!
And Martha Stewart happens to be my hero
I grew up on a farm and I was born with no rhythm
Dr. Phil's my uncle and I like to hang with him
I can't dance / I wear khaki pants
My middle name's Lance My Grandma's from France
So maybe I'm wack
'Cause my skin ain't black
But you can't talk smack
Cause whitey just struck back
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"Chillax, bro." i can't even count the number of times i have read those very words on here. incredible insight.
I know, its like they are one of us and so understand how we communicate hey.
Anyone using those words in a sentence or post should immediately shoot themselves in the face at point blank range. Harsh I know but it is the only honorable thing to do.
Wow the benevolent samesamebutdifferent shows his fangs :D
I'm so happy that all us villains are chlilin to the max, probably took like 3 chill pills each, just chillaxin.... yeah....
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You know, I can rap too...
Now everybody in the 202
throw your hands in the air 'cause Fat Joe is through
Now everybody in the 202
throw 'em up!
Check it out
I'm a white boy, but my neck is red
I put Miracle Whip on my Wonder Bread
My face is pale, nah, I've never been in jail
Me and Buffy spend every winter at Vail
How many b*tches have I slapped? Zero. Unh!
And Martha Stewart happens to be my hero
I grew up on a farm and I was born with no rhythm
Dr. Phil's my uncle and I like to hang with him
I can't dance / I wear khaki pants
My middle name's Lance My Grandma's from France
So maybe I'm wack
'Cause my skin ain't black
But you can't talk smack
Cause whitey just struck back
I'm checking for cops as I check my drops,
My temper pops off when the bitcoin flops,
Getting off my chops, with drugs off the net,
Got Auspost sorted as my new connect,
Staying up late, like some kind of geek,
Cross wannabe gangster on 10K a week,
I'm up shit creek, when customs comes down,
Except I keep myself anonymous so fuck those clowns,
Don't say shit to me, unless it's PGP,
tails, tor, bitcoins, crypto-anarchy,
Add a little weed, and drop some E,
It's the life of a libertarian revolutionary,
Sorry I was bored and had to join in haha.
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that was flat out awesome aussiemitch ha ha !!
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Forbes guy is talking about DPR and SR on NPR now.
Greenberg is?
Really. I don't have the ability to listen right now, I'll have to grab the recording later.
In what kind of light? You should post this in the main thread.
Yes, he was one of four guests.They touched defferent points. Tor, SR and what the government is propably doing about it. The program called: To the point on PRI.
acr115/offbeatadam, do either of you have a link to this program or info on how I could listen to it? If you do I'd be really grateful if you could PM it to me. Thanks
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Forbes guy is talking about DPR and SR on NPR now.
Greenberg is?
Really. I don't have the ability to listen right now, I'll have to grab the recording later.
In what kind of light? You should post this in the main thread.
Yes, he was one of four guests.They touched defferent points. Tor, SR and what the government is propably doing about it. The program called: To the point on PRI.
acr115/offbeatadam, do either of you have a link to this program or info on how I could listen to it? If you do I'd be really grateful if you could PM it to me. Thanks
Here's a (CLEARNET) link to the show's podcasts: http://feeds.kcrw.com/kcrw/tp
I assume it's this one ("The Dark Side of the Internet: Anonymity After All?"): http://feeds.kcrw.com/~r/kcrw/tp/~3/u-fzKpF2nQs/tp130821the_dark_side_of_the
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that was flat out awesome aussiemitch ha ha !!
Thanks haha no I'm not a rap artist in real life.
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Forbes guy is talking about DPR and SR on NPR now.
Greenberg is?
Really. I don't have the ability to listen right now, I'll have to grab the recording later.
In what kind of light? You should post this in the main thread.
Yes, he was one of four guests.They touched defferent points. Tor, SR and what the government is propably doing about it. The program called: To the point on PRI.
acr115/offbeatadam, do either of you have a link to this program or info on how I could listen to it? If you do I'd be really grateful if you could PM it to me. Thanks
Here's a (CLEARNET) link to the show's podcasts: http://feeds.kcrw.com/kcrw/tp
I assume it's this one ("The Dark Side of the Internet: Anonymity After All?"): http://feeds.kcrw.com/~r/kcrw/tp/~3/u-fzKpF2nQs/tp130821the_dark_side_of_the
Thanks very much bro, really appreciate it!
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Do you think that SR is going to become even more of a target once the article gets published in ***FORBES*** on 9/2? They've taken down their #1 targer FH/Tormail...so it does worry me. Why the interviews? I prefer low profile..
But I know DPR has an agenda to express his viewpoints and to change the world, and with that in mind he must feel very confident in the security of SR to do an interview with Forbes,..
I already bought the issue at my local grocery. They would not accept bitcoin:(