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Discussion => Legal => Topic started by: Jack N Hoff on August 04, 2013, 05:02 am
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Mexico - Small personal amounts of cannabis, lsd, heroin and cocaine.
I don't feel like looking anything up right now. Please name more countries with the drugs that are legal within them and cite your sources so that I can add the information to this list.
I really just felt the need to create a topic on the new board. :D
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I heard somewhere that Uraguay is going to legalize Cannabis for personal recreational usage.
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I heard somewhere that Uraguay is going to legalize Cannabis for personal recreational usage.
That's true. Their parliament just formed the new law and now they wait for the formal sign from the senate.
Other countries are of course Netherlands where Cannabis is legal. You can buy in coffee shops only and you can have as well in your house up to 3 or 5 plants for your own usage. Also in "smart" shops you can find some other drugs that pattern light mushroom effects and there is also a legal drug that is kind of legal cocaine. Not so strong of course.
Portugal is one county as well that has decriminalized cannabis. Portugal has been an exemplar to the global perspective when it comes to the social impact of prohibition of drugs. They allowed cannabis and only in 1-2 years the percentage of hard drug users have dropped incredibly and so has alcoholism dropped. Portugal has been an perfect example in how society can improve with decriminalization of soft drugs.
To end my post, I would also sarcastically say that all countries allow some drug using since alcohol is free to use and abuse. And speaking of drugs, alcohol is far one of the worst one. Great job to all the governments! Putting people in jail because the smoke a joint when they want to relax and just giving a fine to someone who is driving under the terrible effects of alcohol when in reality he is a possible road killer. Again great job and thanks for the so fair fucking system!!
All the best people.
Adamiz
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heroin and coke are legal in mexico? :o
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heroin and coke are legal in mexico? :o
Very small personal amounts. Not for sale.
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heroin and coke are legal in mexico? :o
Very small personal amounts. Not for sale.
they realize it is not worth the cops or courts time to go after users. The USA should take notes.
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It's a long time since I have been to Switzerland, but I believe cannabis cultivation and sale was quasi-legal there. Wikipedia says it ain't so any more (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cannabis_in_Switzerland), but it is definitely still a country that mostly tolerates cannabis use.
And there are zones where heroin users can use in public - 'injection rooms' where they could get clean needles and access to health services etc. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harm_reduction#Heroin_maintenance_programmes)
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I heard somewhere that Uraguay is going to legalize Cannabis for personal recreational usage.
All drugs are already legal for personal use in Uraguay, they are making cannabis legal to produce and sell (legal for anybody to grow, legal for the government to sell).
Czech Republic has similar laws, personal use amounts of all drugs are completely legal, you cannot even get a ticket for them or have them seized from you.
Portugal has also decriminalized personal use amounts of all drugs but it isn't quite to the same degree as Czech Republic for example. If you get caught with personal use drugs you can still have them seized from you, and you can still be taken to court. If the Judge at court determines you are an addict they can sentence you to drug treatment, otherwise they can give you a small fine, or they can just let you off. So it isn't really like drugs are decriminalized in Portugal it is just that for personal use amounts of anything the worst sentence you can get is outpatient drug treatment and a small fine.
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I think also in Spain all personal use is legal, but correct me if I am wrong.
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Ibogain is legal in Italy.
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Pretty much all posts in this thread are wrong.
"LSD is controlled in Mexico, however a law passed in 2009 made personal possession of 15 micrograms of LSD (.015 mg) not a crime"
"Not a crime" DOES NOT equal LEGAL. Not in a million years and saying that in dumb and dangerous "But officer Jack N Hoff said it's totally legal? Why can't I have it?". It's not a crime but it is a misdemeanor.
Czech Republic has similar laws, personal use amounts of all drugs are completely legal, you cannot even get a ticket for them or have them seized from you.
Why are you lying to us kmfkewn? ;) This is obviously bullshit and I expected more from you.
Possession of "small amounts" of certain drugs is decriminalized in Czech Republic. It is still a misdemeanor and of course they can be seized and of course you can get a ticket.
http://portal.gov.cz/app/zakony/download?idBiblio=69981&nr=467~2F2009~20Sb.&ft=pdf
(page 13 for the amounts)
Drugs are NOT legal in Uruguay either. I would love to see you convince the local police about that. They would love it too. LOL.
Decriminalization is a pop term, legalization is a pop term and both (as such) are worth shit.
When using the two terms you need to define what action (not substance) is legal (or decriminalized). Decriminalization of usage, decriminalization of possession, etc.
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It's a long time since I have been to Switzerland, but I believe cannabis cultivation and sale was quasi-legal there. Wikipedia says it ain't so any more (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cannabis_in_Switzerland), but it is definitely still a country that mostly tolerates cannabis use.
And there are zones where heroin users can use in public - 'injection rooms' where they could get clean needles and access to health services etc. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harm_reduction#Heroin_maintenance_programmes)
Switzerland was the first country to create a model for prescription Heroin maintenance program, the same as a Methadone maintenance program but addicts are provided with pharmaceutical grade Heroin that they can inject under medical supervision of the injection rooms. Many other countries have followed suit such as the UK, Portugal, Spain, Canada to name a few. Here in Australia we we're supposed to trial a Heroin prescription program that was to commence in 1996 however the American chief drug czar (who cares what his name was) of the time was sent over here by Bill Clinton to get in the ear of our Government of the time to dictate to us how approach our own country's drug policies and to also remind us of how much money they would be losing if they provided subsidized Heroin for addicts that have all had other forms of maintenance treatment fail them in the past.
I do believe we are nation that dictate our own policies. The erosion of sovereignty is ever more evident than ever in this country. It's fucking appalling.
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I heard somewhere that Uraguay is going to legalize Cannabis for personal recreational usage.
That's true. Their parliament just formed the new law and now they wait for the formal sign from the senate.
Other countries are of course Netherlands where Cannabis is legal. You can buy in coffee shops only and you can have as well in your house up to 3 or 5 plants for your own usage. Also in "smart" shops you can find some other drugs that pattern light mushroom effects and there is also a legal drug that is kind of legal cocaine. Not so strong of course.
Portugal is one county as well that has decriminalized cannabis. Portugal has been an exemplar to the global perspective when it comes to the social impact of prohibition of drugs. They allowed cannabis and only in 1-2 years the percentage of hard drug users have dropped incredibly and so has alcoholism dropped. Portugal has been an perfect example in how society can improve with decriminalization of soft drugs.
To end my post, I would also sarcastically say that all countries allow some drug using since alcohol is free to use and abuse. And speaking of drugs, alcohol is far one of the worst one. Great job to all the governments! Putting people in jail because the smoke a joint when they want to relax and just giving a fine to someone who is driving under the terrible effects of alcohol when in reality he is a possible road killer. Again great job and thanks for the so fair fucking system!!
All the best people.
Adamiz
Watch for the truffles in the Netherlands, I've seen the truffles advertised with psilocybin sold in the shops. Grow kits and such are all over the place and the Dutch don't seem to care much even though anything with psilocybin is supposedly considered illegal.
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decriminalization != legalization.. but still something
Czech Republic: Under the law, possession of the following amounts or less of illicit drugs is a misdemeanor subject to a fine equal to a parking ticket.
Marijuana 15 grams (or five plants)
Hashish 5 grams
Magic mushrooms 40 pieces
Peyote 5 plants
LSD 5 tablets
Ecstasy 4 tablets
Amphetamine 2 grams
Methamphetamine 2 grams
Heroin 1.5 grams
Coca 5 plants
Cocaine 1 gram
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drug_liberalization#Czech_Republic
Interesting numbers.. you can have 30-50 doses of meth or H on you but only 4 xts pills is allowed)
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New Zealand passed a law to legalize and regulate some synthetic drugs if they pass safety testing.
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Not a crime means mean legal.....
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I heard somewhere that Uraguay is going to legalize Cannabis for personal recreational usage.
That's true. Their parliament just formed the new law and now they wait for the formal sign from the senate.
Other countries are of course Netherlands where Cannabis is legal. You can buy in coffee shops only and you can have as well in your house up to 3 or 5 plants for your own usage. Also in "smart" shops you can find some other drugs that pattern light mushroom effects and there is also a legal drug that is kind of legal cocaine. Not so strong of course.
Portugal is one county as well that has decriminalized cannabis. Portugal has been an exemplar to the global perspective when it comes to the social impact of prohibition of drugs. They allowed cannabis and only in 1-2 years the percentage of hard drug users have dropped incredibly and so has alcoholism dropped. Portugal has been an perfect example in how society can improve with decriminalization of soft drugs.
To end my post, I would also sarcastically say that all countries allow some drug using since alcohol is free to use and abuse. And speaking of drugs, alcohol is far one of the worst one. Great job to all the governments! Putting people in jail because the smoke a joint when they want to relax and just giving a fine to someone who is driving under the terrible effects of alcohol when in reality he is a possible road killer. Again great job and thanks for the so fair fucking system!!
All the best people.
Adamiz
Watch for the truffles in the Netherlands, I've seen the truffles advertised with psilocybin sold in the shops. Grow kits and such are all over the place and the Dutch don't seem to care much even though anything with psilocybin is supposedly considered illegal.
Psilocybin truffles are, for some reason, completely legal in Amsterdam:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=Y8vaRVwF0xA
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I heard somewhere that Uraguay is going to legalize Cannabis for personal recreational usage.
That's true. Their parliament just formed the new law and now they wait for the formal sign from the senate.
Other countries are of course Netherlands where Cannabis is legal. You can buy in coffee shops only and you can have as well in your house up to 3 or 5 plants for your own usage. Also in "smart" shops you can find some other drugs that pattern light mushroom effects and there is also a legal drug that is kind of legal cocaine. Not so strong of course.
Portugal is one county as well that has decriminalized cannabis. Portugal has been an exemplar to the global perspective when it comes to the social impact of prohibition of drugs. They allowed cannabis and only in 1-2 years the percentage of hard drug users have dropped incredibly and so has alcoholism dropped. Portugal has been an perfect example in how society can improve with decriminalization of soft drugs.
To end my post, I would also sarcastically say that all countries allow some drug using since alcohol is free to use and abuse. And speaking of drugs, alcohol is far one of the worst one. Great job to all the governments! Putting people in jail because the smoke a joint when they want to relax and just giving a fine to someone who is driving under the terrible effects of alcohol when in reality he is a possible road killer. Again great job and thanks for the so fair fucking system!!
All the best people.
Adamiz
Watch for the truffles in the Netherlands, I've seen the truffles advertised with psilocybin sold in the shops. Grow kits and such are all over the place and the Dutch don't seem to care much even though anything with psilocybin is supposedly considered illegal.
Psilocybin truffles are, for some reason, completely legal in Amsterdam:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=Y8vaRVwF0xA
That's because they aren't psilocybin mushrooms, they are merely a mycellium containing psilocybin. They grow underground and don't look as scary and dark as mushrooms.
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Czech Republic has similar laws, personal use amounts of all drugs are completely legal, you cannot even get a ticket for them or have them seized from you.
Why are you lying to us kmfkewn? ;) This is obviously bullshit and I expected more from you.
Possession of "small amounts" of certain drugs is decriminalized in Czech Republic. It is still a misdemeanor and of course they can be seized and of course you can get a ticket.
Hm I guess you get a fine equal to a parking ticket if you have more than a certain amount, I thought they did away with the fine and confiscation.
On December 14, 2009, the Czech Republic adopted a new law that took effect on January 1, 2010, and allows a person to possess up to 15 grams of marijuana or 1.5 grams of heroin without facing criminal charges. These amounts are higher (often many times) than in any other European country, possibly making the Czech Republic the most liberal country in the European Union when it comes to drug liberalization, apart from Portugal.[25]
Under the law, possession of the following amounts or less of illicit drugs is a misdemeanor subject to a fine equal to a parking ticket:
Marijuana 15 grams (or five plants)
Hashish 5 grams
Magic mushrooms 40 pieces
Peyote 5 plants
LSD 5 tablets
Ecstasy 4 tablets
Amphetamine 2 grams
Methamphetamine 2 grams
Heroin 1.5 grams
Coca 5 plants
Cocaine 1 gram
Sale (not purchase) is still a criminal act. Possession of “larger than a small amount” of marijuana can result in a jail sentence of up to one year. For other illicit drugs, the sentence is two years. Trafficking as well as production (apart from growing up to five plants of marijuana) offenses carry stiffer sentences. The Czech Republic now joins Portugal as a European country that has decriminalized drug possession.
Drugs are NOT legal in Uruguay either. I would love to see you convince the local police about that. They would love it too. LOL.
Wikipedia disagrees with you (same place I got the info on Czech Republic):
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drug_liberalization
Uruguay is one of the few countries that never criminalized the possession of drugs for personal use. Since 1974, the law establishes no quantity limits, leaving it to the judge’s discretion to determine whether the intent was personal use. Once it is determined by the judge that the amount in possession was meant for personal use, there are no sanctions.[46]
In June 2012, the Uruguayan government announced plans to legalize state-controlled sales of marijuana in order to fight drug-related crimes. The government also stated that they will ask global leaders to do the same.[47]
On July 31, 2013, the Uruguayan House of Representatives approved a bill to legalize the production, distribution, sale, and consumption of marijuana by a vote of 50 to 46. The bill heads next to the Senate, where the left-leaning majority coalition, the Broad Front, holds a comfortable majority and is expected to pass the bill. The bill will then be presented to President José Mujica, also of the Broad Front coalition, who has supported legalization since June 2012. Relating this vote to the 2012 legalization of marijuana by the U.S. states Colorado and Washington, John Walsh, drug policy expert of the Washington Office on Latin America, stated that "Uruguay's timing is right. Because of last year’s Colorado and Washington State votes to legalize, the U.S. government is in no position to browbeat Uruguay or others who may follow.”[48]
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On December 14, 2009, the Czech Republic adopted a new law that took effect on January 1, 2010, and allows a person to possess up to 15 grams of marijuana or 1.5 grams of heroin without facing criminal charges. These amounts are higher (often many times) than in any other European country, possibly making the Czech Republic the most liberal country in the European Union when it comes to drug liberalization, apart from Portugal.[25]
Under the law, possession of the following amounts or less of illicit drugs is a misdemeanor subject to a fine equal to a parking ticket:
Marijuana 15 grams (or five plants)
Hashish 5 grams
Magic mushrooms 40 pieces
Peyote 5 plants
LSD 5 tablets
Ecstasy 4 tablets
Amphetamine 2 grams
Methamphetamine 2 grams
Heroin 1.5 grams
Coca 5 plants
Cocaine 1 gram
Sale (not purchase) is still a criminal act. Possession of “larger than a small amount” of marijuana can result in a jail sentence of up to one year. For other illicit drugs, the sentence is two years. Trafficking as well as production (apart from growing up to five plants of marijuana) offenses carry stiffer sentences. The Czech Republic now joins Portugal as a European country that has decriminalized drug possession.
Actually, a couple of days ago these amounts were cancelled by constitutional court because of some law bullshit I don't really understand. So it's kind of a mess now and nobody knows which amount of what is ok. But as long as you're not a dealer, you probably have no reason to worry. You shouldn't have any problems with a few grams of MJ or some small amounts of other drugs in Czechia. You can actually find quite a lot of pubs where people smoke pot inside and nobody cares.
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Not a crime means mean legal.....
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That is false.
kmfkewm I dont think you get it.
If a you have -below- a certain amount you can get a ticket. -Above- a certain amount can still go to jail.
That is exactly what it says in the wiki too.
In Uruguay cannabis is in the process of being regulated by the state but that doesnt mean that "drugs are legal". Vote was actually 50:49. Close.
You go to court, you could lose, judge’s discretion is a very double edged sword.
What I am trying to do here is to raise the level of the talk above the average weed forum where people think that "drugs are legal in Portugal, Netherlands etc". If we can talk advanced web-software concepts then we can learn the difference between legalization, regulation (this is what most people think when they talk about taxing cannabis), decriminalization (certain act, manufacture, usage, possession, not being a criminal offence anymore), misdemeanor, criminal offence, etc.
It is hard to generalize different law system but ticket vs. jail is an OK starting point.
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I never said all drug use is legal only personal use. But I guess in Czech Republic it can actually get you a small fine. But in Uruguay personal use is totally legal, they don't even have a single law on the books against it, tho it is up to a judge to decide if an amount was personal use or not.
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I never said all drug use is legal only personal use. But I guess in Czech Republic it can actually get you a small fine. But in Uruguay personal use is totally legal, they don't even have a single law on the books against it, tho it is up to a judge to decide if an amount was personal use or not.
It is illegal in Uruguay until it is voted on in Senate in October. At the end of the year the law will be updated.
In Czech Republic it is a small fine, like a parking ticket, and not a criminal offence but a civil matter. This is de facto legalisation or "decriminalisation" i.e. not criminalised. You are not a criminal for getting a parking ticket. You are not a criminal for getting a fine for having drugs in your possession in Czech.
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Psilocibine is illegal. It already was in 1971;
Updated in 1988. You see mdma entering the list too.
In 1988 was the last time I bought legal mdma.
Off topic (Only for men)
I started to fuck early one evening, fucked the whole next day and next night.
I came at least 7 times, and fucked the skin of my penis.
After a few hours she got a small penis inside her cunt, the size of a bean or as the tip of your pinky (little finger)
I never had seen a woman came from playing that bean on her inside.
Only some shivering when the clitoris was stimulated.
So women have a small penis to on the inside. It grows when stimulated. She didn't even know what it was, but it felt so good. For the man in action it is a nice feeling too. I still do not know what I touched there, but I had to dig deep, and the g-spot should be that deep.
A night, a day and another night of continues fucking leaves no skin left, so you are warned.
On topic;
List of Substances in Schedule I
International nonproprietary name Other non-proprietary or trivial names Chemical name
1. BROLAMFETAMINE DOB (± )-4-bromo-2,5-dimethoxy-α-methylphenethylamine
2. CATHINONE (-)-(S)-2-aminopropiophenone
3. DET 3-[2-(diethylamino)ethyl]indole
4. DMA (± )-2,5-dimethoxy-α-methyl-phenethylamine
5. DMHP 3-(1,2-dimethylheptyl)-7,8,9,10-tetrahydro-6,6,9-trimethyl-6H-dibenzo[b,d] pyran-1-ol
6. DMT 3-[2-(dimethylamino)ethyl]indole
7. DOET (± )-4-ethyl-2,5-dimethoxy-α-phenethylamine
8. ETICYCLIDINE PCE N-ethyl-1-phenylcyclohexylamine
9. ( + )-LYSERGIDE LSD, LSD-25 9,10-didehydro-N-N-diethyl-6-methylergoline-8β-carboxamide
10. TENAMFETAMINE MDA α-methyl-3,4-(methylenedioxy)phenethylamine
11. mescaline 3,4,5-trimethoxyphenethylamine
12. MMDA 2-methoxy-α-methyl-4,5-(methylenedioxy)phenethylamine
13 parahexyl 3-hexyl-7,8,9,10-tetrahydro-6,6,9-trimethyl-6H-dibenzo[b,d]pyran-l-ol
14. PMA p-methoxy-α-methylphenet-hylamine
15. psilocine, psilotsin 3-[2-(dimethylamino)ethyl]indol-4ol
16. PSILOCYBINE 3-[2-(dimethylamino)ethyl]indol-4-yl dihydrogen phosphate
17. ROLICYCLIDINE PHP, PCPY 1-(1-phenylcyclohexyl)pyrrolidine
18. STP, DOM 2,5-dimethoxy-α,4-dimethylphenethylamine
19. MDMA (±)-N,α-dimethyl-3,4-(methylenedioxy)phenethylamine
20. TENOCYCLIDINE TCP 1-[1-(2-thienyl)cyclohexyl]piperidine
21. tetrahydrocaninabinol, the following isomers and their stereochemical variants
See number 15.
40 country's signed the list.
Look at number 21 too.
A judge convicted a man who sold from his home and was caught with 500 gram softdrugs.
9 (nine) months prison.
Nota bene in the Netherlands. Selling is only for coffeshops. Selling weed on the street or from a house can put you in jail.
And there are a lot mushrooms sold that aren't psilocybine.
They grow in The Netherlands to, and when you have eaten 3 of those mushrooms, you will know it. Unmistakable. You don't need 5 mushrooms.
At least I was glad I had taken only 3.
I see others take 7 or more and they are still the same.
I guess they have the wrong mushrooms and are just a little poisened.
If you can eat 10 psilocibine mushrooms and still function, you didn't eat psilo's.
Did you eat 3 mushrooms and are not sure if you hve had the real thing go from outside into a warm place, so inside.
Your blood will start to flow and the psilocibine will blow your mind, leaving no place for any doubt
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I never said all drug use is legal only personal use. But I guess in Czech Republic it can actually get you a small fine. But in Uruguay personal use is totally legal, they don't even have a single law on the books against it, tho it is up to a judge to decide if an amount was personal use or not.
It is illegal in Uruguay until it is voted on in Senate in October. At the end of the year the law will be updated.
In Czech Republic it is a small fine, like a parking ticket, and not a criminal offence but a civil matter. This is de facto legalisation or "decriminalisation" i.e. not criminalised. You are not a criminal for getting a parking ticket. You are not a criminal for getting a fine for having drugs in your possession in Czech.
I think you are confused about Uruguay. Personal use of all drugs is already legal there, as in it has no law against it at all. They are voting to make it legal for the government to *sell* weed as well as for people to *produce* weed. All personal use drug use in Uruguay is as legal as can be, as in has no law what-so-ever against it.
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I never said all drug use is legal only personal use. But I guess in Czech Republic it can actually get you a small fine. But in Uruguay personal use is totally legal, they don't even have a single law on the books against it, tho it is up to a judge to decide if an amount was personal use or not.
It is illegal in Uruguay until it is voted on in Senate in October. At the end of the year the law will be updated.
In Czech Republic it is a small fine, like a parking ticket, and not a criminal offence but a civil matter. This is de facto legalisation or "decriminalisation" i.e. not criminalised. You are not a criminal for getting a parking ticket. You are not a criminal for getting a fine for having drugs in your possession in Czech.
I think you are confused about Uruguay. Personal use of all drugs is already legal there, as in it has no law against it at all. They are voting to make it legal for the government to *sell* weed as well as for people to *produce* weed. All personal use drug use in Uruguay is as legal as can be, as in has no law what-so-ever against it.
Ah yes thanks for pointing out, further clarification would look like this:
It is illegal in Uruguay to trade and produce weed until it is voted on in Senate in October. At the end of the year the law will be updated.
So currently it is decriminalised for personal possession like most of Latin America.
But too bad it won't be legal for foreigners (which is a great move to get public support over there by eliminating drug tourism).
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The United States where Amfonelic acid is still legal, for now.
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Other countries are of course Netherlands where Cannabis is legal.
I'm pretty sure cannabis isn't completely legal in the Netherlands
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Read point 21 from a few post below. THC is illegal in the Netherlands.
For a few years back at least and maybe still are, there were 4 countrys that sold benzo's like it was paracetamol. Turk&Cois, Myanmar, Afghanistan and the Seychelles. I have ni idea how it is today with their laws.
I did found on Turk&cois that a supermarket was distributor of the gpo diazepam made in Guyana.
I did not call them to ask if they did shipments to Europe.
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For a few years back at least and maybe still are, there were 4 countrys that sold benzo's like it was paracetamol. Turk&Cois, Myanmar, Afghanistan and the Seychelles.
In many poor or developping countries of the world, IME, you can get almost anything over the counter. Not that it is legal, but local pharmacies need the money.
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In many poor or developping countries of the world, IME, you can get almost anything over the counter. Not that it is legal, but local pharmacies need the money.
Many of those countries also have laxer regulation regarding what can be dispensed with pharmacist approval over doctor approval.
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Read point 21 from a few post below. THC is illegal in the Netherlands.
For a few years back at least and maybe still are, there were 4 countrys that sold benzo's like it was paracetamol. Turk&Cois, Myanmar, Afghanistan and the Seychelles. I have ni idea how it is today with their laws.
I did found on Turk&cois that a supermarket was distributor of the gpo diazepam made in Guyana.
I did not call them to ask if they did shipments to Europe.
I don't know what the law on it is in Serbia, but people there have little to no trouble buying benzos over the counter.
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Pakistan, they tolerate small amounts of refined \heroin. and payote.
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For a few years back at least and maybe still are, there were 4 countrys that sold benzo's like it was paracetamol. Turk&Cois, Myanmar, Afghanistan and the Seychelles.
In many poor or developping countries of the world, IME, you can get almost anything over the counter. Not that it is legal, but local pharmacies need the money.
Not what I ment. I ment legal as in legal.
In 2009 the rest of the world held a meeting to convince those last 4 country's to join the agreement to make benzos illegal.
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For a few years back at least and maybe still are, there were 4 countrys that sold benzo's like it was paracetamol. Turk&Cois, Myanmar, Afghanistan and the Seychelles.
In many poor or developping countries of the world, IME, you can get almost anything over the counter. Not that it is legal, but local pharmacies need the money.
Not what I ment. I ment legal as in legal.
In 2009 the rest of the world held a meeting to convince those last 4 country's to join the agreement to make benzos illegal.
I know it wasn't what you meant, that was just a side comment. But hey, nowhere in the world are benzos illegal, they are just sold with prescription.
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im pretty sure I watched some NatGeo shit about Venezula, all drugs are legal there (or at least quite a few) as long as you arent in public being a retard shooting up. They had video of someone shooting Ron in a park lol. Imagine if our country was like that...I mean it is but still
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Weed isn't legal in Jamaica but depending on where you are nobody really gives a damn. Just don't buy or sell or smoke around cops and you're fine. Smoke at the resorts on your balcony, smoke on the beaches at night or smoke at the bars. Nobody gives a damn. Jamaica = heaven to me. Negril, Jamaica to be specific.
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http://howtoperu.com/2012/03/27/drugs-in-peru-laws-of-possession/
I read this in a travel book some years ago; Article 299
-2 grams Cocaine HCl
-7 grams marijuana ( in the book) On this site is says 8g's
and unknown to me until I read this article today.. also.25g of MDMA or Meth is legal to possess
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http://howtoperu.com/2012/03/27/drugs-in-peru-laws-of-possession/
I read this in a travel book some years ago; Article 299
-2 grams Cocaine HCl
-7 grams marijuana ( in the book) On this site is says 8g's
and unknown to me until I read this article today.. also.25g of MDMA or Meth is legal to possess
+1 good info
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It is not legal in Denmark
But we got a place in Denmark thats is called Christinia/Staden - Very famous, like Amsterdam.
Where there only is being sold Cannabis - and the police cant do shit about, the police never come in, and when they come, they are coming like 100-200 armored police officers with dogs, pebberpray, riotshields and so on.
Search for it on google
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But we got a place in Denmark thats is called Christinia/Staden - Very famous, like Amsterdam.
Where there only is being sold Cannabis - and the police cant do shit about, the police never come in, and when they come, they are coming like 100-200 armored police officers with dogs, pebberpray, riotshields and so on.
I've been to Christiania, on a 1-day-trip to Copenhagen. Never understood if the situation was properly legal or just tolerated. But it surely was an amazing community.
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I always find it funny to remember Salvia divinorum is legal in most places.
I think this is the only drug im never going to try. (seems way too scary)
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You can by cocaine somewhere in South America legally right? Like at a bar?
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You can by cocaine somewhere in South America legally right? Like at a bar?
Cocaine is illegal in all of South America.
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You can by cocaine somewhere in South America legally right? Like at a bar?
Santa Cruz in Bolivia is a nice place for cheap A+ quality Andean snow
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Spain cultivation/growing of marijuana is legal, heard different amounts from different police though. the guardia in the north told me 3 plants but in the south in Andalucia they said 7 plants.
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Antartica, Mars, the moon
Venus
Pluto
Fuck, i'm on another plant
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There is no distinction in Hungarian law between illicit drugs according to dangers. Heroin use has the same legal consequences as cannabis use. Hungarian law prohibits the distribution, and any use (including medical use). However the Penal code distinguishes the punishment between sale and personal use. 283. § (1) paragraph (a) states that "One cannot be punished for drug misuse; if a small, personal amount is produced, acquired, or in possession..." and continues to state that "... provided that before final verdict is determined a verification is provided that continuous 6-month therapy has taken place" The law determines that a "personal quantity" is defined as 1 gram of active substance (i.e. THC), therefore this equates to 12–100 grams of marijuana if calculated that marijuana contains 1–8% THC per unit mass. Possession of larger amounts can lead to a 5–10-year prison sentence.[52]
^ wiki source
And i also heard that the next year they will legalize weed and give permissions to open shops like there was in Amsterdam ( i again state that i only heard this ).
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I'm surprised no one mentioned cannabis in North Korea
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I'm surprised no one mentioned cannabis in North Korea
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Lol, I was just going to post about that. Fuckers can't even feed their people...The most obscure culture in the world, and the fuckers have marijuana legal..the shit is that. The US in 5 years will have legal cannabis. Also..a fun fact...80% of drug users in the U.S. are white.
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Fascinating thread Jack, for those of us with a interest in drugs, geography and traveling.
I'm surprised no one mentioned cannabis in North Korea
I thought this was a joke when I first read it. Is it genuinely for real? Several people have just been executed for making a sex tape, but they're more liberal with dope than most of the western world! ;D
Christania in Denmark is run by the Hells Angels I believe, who are pretty powerful in Denmark.
I'm surprised that no-one has mentioned India. It's where Indica originates, so its been used there for some time. It's tolerated because Hindhu saddhus (holy men) smoke it for religious reasons. If you're not a saddhu though, you may find yourself having to bribe the police. It is basically decriminalized in neighbouring Bangladesh too, again because it's a drug that has been used there for thousands of years they just don't enforce the UN drug laws to which they have agreed in principle.
Laos is meant to be a country where you can buy any drug, pretty much openly in markets.
Cambodia has a similar policy to The Netherlands, and tolerates the sale of cannabis in pizza parlours and by rickshaw drivers in certain areas.
Nobody has mentioned Canada either. Isn't Vancouver known as Vansterdam for its relaxed attitude to dope?
I think cannabis was decriminalized in Belgium a couple of years ago too.
As for Washington and Colorado, what do you think will happen, given federal laws on drugs. Will they actually respect the peoples wishes and go ahead with it, or will the government try and put a stop to it? :-\
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It is ditch weed in North Korea. They are smoking a lot of ruderalis (hemp) crossed strains. Low quality and full of seeds. It is legal because the people are generally very poor and it is cheaper to roll ditch weed in old news paper than to buy cigarettes or tobacco from a store. They smoke ditch weed rolled in newspaper as a cheap alternative to tobacco.
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Ah I see. By "ditch weed" you mean Cannabis Ruderalis? It grows all over Eastern Europe too. Basically, wild cannabis, but not as strong as Indica or Sativa. Still, better than nothing I suppose.
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Ya, well. You can't smoke any kinda weed legally in the State I live in..so what's that tell yea..I can't afford cigarettes either. But I sure as shit can smoke them legally..and, do.
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Other countries are of course Netherlands where Cannabis is legal.
I'm pretty sure cannabis isn't completely legal in the Netherlands
True. Dutch laws regarding cannabis are extremely complicated.
Yes, you can have up to five plants in your home. However this is illegal. If the police finds out, there's a good chance they will seize them, but up to five plants there will be no prosecution. When you take it to court, there's a chance you get your plants back because the police should abide the gedoogbeleid (more on this later).
Also, you're not allowed to use a lamp for your plants. Given the small quantity and no-lamp policy, this is impossible to use as a source for coffeeshops. Also, when you're not a coffeeshop, you can't legally sell your weed, so it wouldn't be legal anyways.
Weed production is otherwise pretty much illegal, so some people rent a house and fill the attic with plants, lamps and everything. To get the electricity, they hire "a guy" who just.. Well, plugs it in. If they ever got a bill, the power consumption would be way too suspicious.
There may be some legitimate weed production for prescription weed, I'm not sure - however, anyone who does that is not allowed to sell to coffeeshops.
Then there are the coffeeshops. They can sell weed, but they can't sell to foreigners. They also can't buy weed, but politicians figure weed magically *poof* bursts into existence. Fun fact: they are also not allowed to sell alcohol. And the coffeeshops.. Are not legal. We have simply chosen not to enforce the laws on them, we still have to abide to opium law. This is gedoogbeleid, a word that can't even be translated into English: [clearnet]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gedogen[/clearnet].
Whether or not you can open a coffeeshop depends on the municipality. Some municipalities close to the border have decided to withdraw the licences from all coffeeshops. If you happen to live there, you're fucked. I personally think they're only moving the problem into another area, but who am I to say anything about it.
Finally there's possession. You can't legally have weed. If the cops wanted to, they could wait outside a coffeeshop and confiscate the goods from every buyer. They don't, once again, gedoogbeleid.
If you're using softdrugs, you must be 18 or over, otherwise it's illegal. It can also be illegal in some locations, but at home you're safe.
Smoking weed inside a coffeeshop may or may not be legal depending on circumstances: there is a law against smoking of tobacco in place for most public places. This law is in place only for the personnel, it's okay for customers to suffocate. So if there is a seperate smoking room in the coffeeshop where no personnel is allowed, you're good. If your joint has no tobacco in it you're also good and don't need a seperate room. The Dutch authorities however have no right to check whether or not there's tobacco in your joint, so the law is effectively impossible to enforce.
So if you're caught by the cops at home right at the moment you put the last crumb of spacecake into your mouth, they won't be able to charge you with possesion, won't be able to confiscate anything and the use is legal, so you're good.
More information in Dutch: http://www.rijksoverheid.nl/onderwerpen/drugs/vraag-en-antwoord/ben-ik-strafbaar-als-ik-drugs-bezit-gebruik-produceer-of-verhandel.html
Now you understand why the Dutch buy so much paracetamol (tylenol). Our own laws gives us a massive headache.
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Also, when you're not a coffeeshop, you can't legally sell your weed, so it wouldn't be legal anyways.
Well in the United States, when your not a licensed liquor store it is illegal to sell your homemade alcohol. Does that make alcohol illegal?
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Selling, growing, possessing and using cannabis is not legal in the Netherlands. Many of these activities are tolerated to some degree. It is not legal though. There is a difference.
The reason I have not updated the original post is because no one is citing sources for the information that they are posting.
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Also, when you're not a coffeeshop, you can't legally sell your weed, so it wouldn't be legal anyways.
Well in the United States, when your not a licensed liquor store it is illegal to sell your homemade alcohol. Does that make alcohol illegal?
I didn't say that, I just said there is absolutely no way a coffeeshop could legally obtain their weed. Even buying from thousands of growers who each have five plants would still not be legal because those growers with their gedoogde plants are still not allowed to sell their weed.
And yes, after all, weed is still illegal in The Netherlands. It is largely gedoogd, but still illegal. (unless you have a prescription, but the same goes for cocaine.. cocaine can be, and is, used in hospitals)
Selling, growing, possessing and using cannabis is not legal in the Netherlands. Many of these activities are tolerated to some degree. It is not legal though. There is a difference.[/q]
Using is legal. How you could use without possessing is just a practical question, but from a legal aspect, using is legal.
[q]The reason I have not updated the original post is because no one is citing sources for the information that they are posting.
The link I provided in my last post (http://www.rijksoverheid.nl/onderwerpen/drugs/vraag-en-antwoord/ben-ik-strafbaar-als-ik-drugs-bezit-gebruik-produceer-of-verhandel.html) pretty much describes everything. This is a website from the government.
Admittedly useless for the opening post though as you're looking for countries where something is legal..
Here's the wiki for Freetown Christiana: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freetown_Christiania but officially I doubt it's really legal.
For a fun read, try http://www.cracked.com/article_15821_fun-size-countries-insane-histories-worlds-6-tiniest-nations.html. You may have a shot at legal drug use/manufacturing in some of those.
Mostly there are few places where anything is legal. Generally it's more productive to look into more obscure drugs that have not (yet) been regulated. Think adrafinil, that is metabolized in-vivo to modafinil. And uncontrolled in most countries, although there are hardly any reliable suppliers.
Perhaps consider that licktoad.. There's some toad, if you lick it's butt, it supposedly is like an LSD-trip. But if you lick the wrong toad, you die, so you have to be sure you have the right kind of toad.. But the toad is legal.
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Selling, growing, possessing and using cannabis is not legal in the Netherlands. Many of these activities are tolerated to some degree. It is not legal though. There is a difference.
The reason I have not updated the original post is because no one is citing sources for the information that they are posting.
north korea marijuana
http://www.vice.com/read/north-korea-is-stoned-all-the-time-which-explains-a-lot
and another:http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/08/27/marijuana-world-map-_n_3805800.html
the 2nd link also talks about Uruguay and how a bill passed in their Senate to legalize and sell marijuana but they didnt legalize it yet. Not sure what other channels of government it has to go through to become law. But Uruguay might have legal cannabis soon
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really i need a source for marijuana in north korea? i thought this was common knowledge
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Then there are the coffeeshops. They can sell weed, but they can't sell to foreigners.
That's not true! In Rotterdam at the weekend getting my weekly supplies (limited to 5G per shop) i hit 4 coffee shops and was asked for ID in them all, i showed my UK driving license and was able to buy from them all!
However some location in Holland will not allow it, 20km up the road in Dordrecht and i would not be allowed to buy it.
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Then there are the coffeeshops. They can sell weed, but they can't sell to foreigners.
That's not true! In Rotterdam at the weekend getting my weekly supplies (limited to 5G per shop) i hit 4 coffee shops and was asked for ID in them all, i showed my UK driving license and was able to buy from them all!
However some location in Holland will not allow it, 20km up the road in Dordrecht and i would not be allowed to buy it.
It is true. The shops you visited all broke the law when they sold to you.
http://nos.nl/op3/artikel/509846-buitenlander-nog-steeds-welkom-in-coffeeshop.html
"Two thirds of all coffeeshops still sell to foreigners. Especially coffeeshops north of the rivers do not abide the locals-only criteria that became law 1 januari 2013."
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Ya, well. You can't smoke any kinda weed legally in the State I live in..so what's that tell yea..I can't afford cigarettes either. But I sure as shit can smoke them legally..and, do.
Same here. It isn't even legal for medical use anywhere in Australia.
But South Australia allows possession of small amounts & small plants.
It's illegal, but if you get caught they will take it away and give you a fine, but won't need to go to court.
Makes no sense... Should just be legal.
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In Brasil ayahuasca is legal, and also psylocibes cubensis that grow almost everywhere in the rain season.