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Support => Customer support => Topic started by: garrison000 on July 25, 2013, 05:12 am
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So this all started on 7/20 (roughly), I had been using BitInstant for all of my Cash > BTC transactions but since they updated their site I started searching for alternate routes. This is when I came across the idea of using MoneyPak codes to get BTC's on SR. Mrbuddha (the vendor) had listing's with nice rates and great reviews for the month that he had been a vendor, and it all seemed great to me. Little did I know that it was too good to be real. I gave him my MP code and waited for a few days before messaging him about the transaction. He informed me that he was having family issues and I didnt think much of it, until I got a message saying that my order had been canceled. Discovering that my order had been canceled I went to his vendor page and saw that his updates and listings were wiped clean. I then called the MP hotline to check the balance on my code, and surprise surprise the balance was zero and all of the money was taken two days ago. So, DONT USE Mrbuddha FOR ANYTHING.
Also, is it in anyway possible to get a refund for the 300$ transaction? I have nearly 3k spent on SR with zero refund or finalization problems prior to this. Any response or information is greatly appreciated.
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Sorry, but Silk Road is not currently able to offer support for these types of bitcoin transactions because they all occur, by nature, outside of the escrow system. We recommend purchasing your bitcoins from reputable non-SR sources like bitinstant, localbitcoins, MtGox, etc. I'm sorry that you were scammed though!!
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You said it yourself in your post when you wrote that it was "too good to be real", when you see something like that it should be a big red flag because it probably is. Sorry you were scammed, MP for BTC is one of the most prolific scams going, this board is sadly often full of posts reporting bad experiences like yours.
I would strongly urge you to take cirrus' advice and find another option for buying coins if you can.
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This was too good to be true because he charged no fees. Also no fees for cash in the mail to vendors so I knew this was a scammer. There are always fees associated with everything. I'm sorry you got scammed as did 2 of my buyers. There are people who do this who aren't scammers but they charge to do so- and reputable exchanges to use. Nothing in this world is free and even I saw his cash out prices and was worried. No way someone sends cash to a vendor in the mail with no upcharge - not even shipping. Again, sorry for your loss :(
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So this all started on 7/20 (roughly), I had been using BitInstant for all of my Cash > BTC transactions but since they updated their site I started searching for alternate routes. This is when I came across the idea of using MoneyPak codes to get BTC's on SR. Mrbuddha (the vendor) had listing's with nice rates and great reviews for the month that he had been a vendor, and it all seemed great to me. Little did I know that it was too good to be real. I gave him my MP code and waited for a few days before messaging him about the transaction. He informed me that he was having family issues and I didnt think much of it, until I got a message saying that my order had been canceled. Discovering that my order had been canceled I went to his vendor page and saw that his updates and listings were wiped clean. I then called the MP hotline to check the balance on my code, and surprise surprise the balance was zero and all of the money was taken two days ago. So, DONT USE Mrbuddha FOR ANYTHING.
Also, is it in anyway possible to get a refund for the 300$ transaction? I have nearly 3k spent on SR with zero refund or finalization problems prior to this. Any response or information is greatly appreciated.
he did the same thing to me my friend and im sorry to hear that he got me for $600...and no the money is lost thats what sucks about the fraud warning on the cards so we are all screwed...it has happened to me 3 other times just this month alone so if you know of a way to get money back i would be happy to hear it but i have tried alot of things and have had no success but FYI.....he got 3 vendors i know all totaling over 15K and i know of atleast 10 other buyers with MPs he punked....it sucked cause i messaged alot of people who have used him so he used to come thru it seems like but now went rogue.....i found something very terrifying and i hope SR admins get on this as soon as possible....http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=177954.45 on page 4 of that post look for the post by "Harmful Hits" apparently BrianMcgee showed his plan to him and all these coin accounts with less than 30 days are probably the working of him as well as he has dozens more and since SR bond is $500 and he is making thousands of that he isnt losing a penny....SR needs to raise the bond to something outrageous so it wouldnt be worth time scamming ....for future reference my friend...i have used BTCking several times and he always comes through he was just down for a few days waiting funding he does the bank deposit and he is on point and as long as you get the deposit in on time you get coins same day...another is JMB solid vendor his rates are a little high but he is safe and reliable and you can rest at ease with him....stay way from GGATZ, BrianMcgee, BTCWITHINMINUTES....and possibly a few others i dont recommend ever using anyone under atleast a month on the road ...and if they have ZERO forum presence or reviews just stay away its probably bad news....and anyone be aware of anyone who buys bitcoins high paying 2-5% back to the seller and than only charges 5% to process a card , usually a scam, as well as vendors who seem like they do it all...probably a scam if new, and if the rates are too good and it seems to low...go with your guy its a scam. best of luck to you on the road my friend....let me know what reliable vendors you run into!
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If you get scammed by a vendor please message SR Support on the main site with the details of what has occurred.
Libertas
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so I got scammed by Mrbuddha for $500 in a MP to BC transaction. I got an email stating that the money had been returned to my account - signed Silk Road Staff. Is that just part of the screw job or what?
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so I got scammed by Mrbuddha for $500 in a MP to BC transaction. I got an email stating that the money had been returned to my account - signed Silk Road Staff. Is that just part of the screw job or what?
Silk Road can not offer support for Bitcoin exchange purchases and we recommend that you do not buy Bitcoin from exchangers operating on Silk Road. Please re-read the Buyer's Guide, and read the FAQ section of the SR Wiki:
http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/wiki/index.php?title=Buyer%27s_Guide#Getting_Bitcoins
http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/wiki/index.php?title=Frequently_Asked_Questions#I_need_help_with_a_bitcoin_transaction_from_a_Silk_Road_vendor.
The message you received is automatically sent when a vendor cancels an order. Under normal circumstances a buyer pays X amount for the item that they are purchasing. However, you did not make any payment as the listing was for $0.00, therefore there was no payment to return to your account. Again, Silk Road can not offer support for Bitcoin exchange purchases as they can not - by their very nature - be held in escrow.
However, we do need buyers who choose to engage in such transactions that get burned to report them to SR Support on the main site in order to give us grounds to investigate a vendor and suspend them if we find evidence of scamming or rule breaking.
Libertas
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so I got scammed by Mrbuddha for $500 in a MP to BC transaction. I got an email stating that the money had been returned to my account - signed Silk Road Staff. Is that just part of the screw job or what?
well its not SR screwin you...mrBuddha screwed you , myself, and now about 25 others i know of just from the past few hours i have been talking with people but back to the message ...its a standardized message that is sent out went a vendor cancels an order and SR is letting you know that the fund that were in escrow are now returnded...and depending on BTC fluctuating you could lose some $$ but this is just like a standard auto no-reply email just letting you know what is going on ....but since when you do any type of transaction that is card based or has a zero BTC fee for the listing to be purchased you are bypassing this escrow system so all funds are at the own risk and that is what makes getting coins on SR dangerous cause you are bypassing the escrow and the vendor can just cancel and run with your MPs or REloadits and in your case the message is pointless just like it is in my case telling you pretty much the last FU cause mrBuddha ran, i hope you have better travels on the road, this has happened to me 3 times this month so i am going back to my old vendors even if they charge between 10-15% atleast im getting coin and not getting charged 100% and not getting shit.
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ANYONE WHO GOT SCREWED BY MRBUDDHA CALL MP # ON THE BACK OF CARD(800 473 3636) AND PUT IN A CLAIM.....DO NOT LET THEM KNOW THAT YOU WERE SCAMMED.....EXPLAIN THAT YOU TRIED TO LOAD INTO PAYPAL ACCT AND IT JUST SHOWED UP AS ZERO BALANCE...( I WOULD RECOMMEND SOME FAILED ATTEMPTS FIRST ) ....DO NOT TELL THAT U GAVE YOUR MP # AWAY......THEY WILL START A CLAIM FOR YOU AND ASK THAT YOU FAX OVER THE RECEIPT AND MP# ......RESOLUTIONS TAKE LIKE 10 BUSINESS DAYS AFTER....HOPEFULLY ALL OF HIS ACCTS GET FROZEN.......I PUT IN A CLAIM TODAY.....FAGGOT STOLE $2000 FROM ME
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ANYONE WHO GOT SCREWED BY MRBUDDHA CALL MP # ON THE BACK OF CARD(800 473 3636) AND PUT IN A CLAIM.....DO NOT LET THEM KNOW THAT YOU WERE SCAMMED.....EXPLAIN THAT YOU TRIED TO LOAD INTO PAYPAL ACCT AND I JUST SHOWED ZERO BALANCE...( I WOULD RECOMMEND SOME FAILED ATTEMPTS FIRST ) ....DO NOT TELL THAT U GAVE YOUR MP # AWAY......THEY WILL START A CLAIM FOR YOU AND ASK THAT YOU FAX OVER THE RECEIPT AND MP# ......RESOLUTIONS TAKE LIKE 10 BUSINESS DAYS AFTER....HOPEFULLY ALL OF HIS ACCTS GET FROZEN.......I PUT IN A CLAIM TODAY.....FAGGOT STOLE $2000 FROM ME
I sent you a PM ...i want to do what your doing i just want your help
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That is despicable, I feel for each and everyone of you, 25 up to now and no doubt countless others. Their accounts should be limited when dealing with high amounts like these. Paypal have a system in place which prevents people cashing out at once. It does stress this fervently in the intro/DPR's message when you first sign up, that you shouldn't buy BTC with MP on these forums, I take it you guys had no choice? The amount of spam/scam the above mods have had to delete with these moneypack scams is incalculable, Always pop in the forums and see what the word on the street, so to speak is.
Unbelievable, really is sickening.
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That is despicable, I feel for each and everyone of you, 25 up to now and no doubt countless others. Their accounts should be limited when dealing with high amounts like these. Paypal have a system in place which prevents people cashing out at once. It does stress this fervently in the intro/DPR's message when you first sign up, that you shouldn't buy BTC with MP on these forums, I take it you guys had no choice? The amount of spam/scam the above mods have had to delete with these moneypack scams is incalculable, Always pop in the forums and see what the word on the street, so to speak is.
Unbelievable, really is sickening.
thank you for your kind words, yes i did, i have used some coin vendors who never let me down but recently over the past 3 weeks i have had no luck with coin vendors been getting scammed left and right, and im trying to figure out the exchanges but i dont exactly understand them and which ones are good and how to get some of the funding in line and i have been told alot about localbitcoins but again never tried it, im almost to nervous to try other methods anymore
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I also got scammed by Mrbuddah.. I'm going to start a claim. Can I expect anything in return?
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I also got scammed by Mrbuddah.. I'm going to start a claim. Can I expect anything in return?
As stated many times already, SR does not currently offer support for these transactions, so I'm afraid you won't be able to get a refund or resolution.
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I also got scammed by Mrbuddah.. I'm going to start a claim. Can I expect anything in return?
haha nope, but he did the same thing to me and i was pissed, but i had a successful transaction today with JumboMonkeyBiscuit , def. recommend him if you are looking for someone solid and is reliable....and he processed mine in under 6hrs and replied to all my messages and was very friendly and i told him about what happened with mrBuddha, but JMB is awesome so for your next experience i would use him unless you have a better method.
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I also got scammed by Mrbuddah.. I'm going to start a claim. Can I expect anything in return?
haha nope, but he did the same thing to me and i was pissed, but i had a successful transaction today with JumboMonkeyBiscuit , def. recommend him if you are looking for someone solid and is reliable....and he processed mine in under 6hrs and replied to all my messages and was very friendly and i told him about what happened with mrBuddha, but JMB is awesome so for your next experience i would use him unless you have a better method.
Wow this sucks. I used MrBuddha twice for $300 > MP BTC successfully in under 12 hours. My guess is he was building a rep to make a quick grab and go. If he burned say 20 people at once Im sure he skated with at least $5k USD. TERRIBLE.
Other than using services like CampBx or Bitinstant how else does everyone get their coins?
EDIT: a word
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If he sold those numbers to a vendor who loaded a card.....you will have a battle on your hands......He may of got me too.....but I loaded my cards prior to giving him any bitcoins......
I am going through this on another bitcoin vendor....where the customer was doing the scamming.....and that money is frozen......
ANYONE WHO GOT SCREWED BY MRBUDDHA CALL MP # ON THE BACK OF CARD(800 473 3636) AND PUT IN A CLAIM.....DO NOT LET THEM KNOW THAT YOU WERE SCAMMED.....EXPLAIN THAT YOU TRIED TO LOAD INTO PAYPAL ACCT AND IT JUST SHOWED UP AS ZERO BALANCE...( I WOULD RECOMMEND SOME FAILED ATTEMPTS FIRST ) ....DO NOT TELL THAT U GAVE YOUR MP # AWAY......THEY WILL START A CLAIM FOR YOU AND ASK THAT YOU FAX OVER THE RECEIPT AND MP# ......RESOLUTIONS TAKE LIKE 10 BUSINESS DAYS AFTER....HOPEFULLY ALL OF HIS ACCTS GET FROZEN.......I PUT IN A CLAIM TODAY.....FAGGOT STOLE $2000 FROM ME
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if anyone has luck with the whole paypal thing for a claim let me know cause i tried to do it yesterday but didnt have much success and the person i was talking to on the phone seemed extremely lost wen i explained what was going on.
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he stole way more thank 5k. he didn't start scamming until vendors started giving him thousands at a time to cash out their bitcoins. fucker also started selling his own customers moneypacks to vendors trying to cash out. some of the fraud claims you make via the moneypack people may be meddling in another vendors account since mr buddha didn't cash them all out with his accounts. good luck
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Sounds.....like it was quite a bit of money.....I have 4 of those money packs and all were loaded my me.......verified by me......all were good.....after verifying they were legit MP's I transferred the bitcoins to his account.
As far as I am concerned that transaction is complete. If any of those are disputed......it's going to be brutal.
I have a MP that is being disputed right now....by a customer trying to scam me.....they MP was traded to me by another bicoin vendor.......the money is locked up.. we may never get it....but neither will the guy trying to scam us.
For all you guy looking bitcoins.......Most legit vendors have a small program to help you get them......I do it for my customers.