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Title: wtf reports buying and selling / swapping details of buyers
Post by: joolz on July 23, 2013, 11:05 am
data harvesting details to swap at the deeper vendors table , why you got the vendors table then the deep vendors table wtf is this all about and whats going on
you keep and cross referance all the sales buyers who to avoid etc

got 4 pms telling me , so why would you and how come its allowed what was it

chems gona have my mate murdered  I,ll gee you £1000 for this hard mans details coz we will find him .. even if it takes years   ;D   



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Stop talking about me on the forum or I will call the authorities! You know that I have your address mate.

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You better delete those messages now or your mate is gonna get nicked! Delete it now.

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Title: Re: wtf mintel reports buying and selling / swapping details of buyers
Post by: cirrus on July 23, 2013, 05:27 pm
There is absolutely NO personal info sharing on the Vendor Roundtable.
Title: Re: wtf mintel reports buying and selling / swapping details of buyers
Post by: loniax on July 23, 2013, 07:26 pm
Interesting
Title: Re: wtf mintel reports buying and selling / swapping details of buyers
Post by: joolz on July 23, 2013, 07:43 pm
There is absolutely NO personal info sharing on the Vendor Roundtable.
ok so how did he get the address(wrong one) a guess
we aint stupid and another mod admitted he knew about it buddy , maybe ask first  ;)
Title: Re: wtf mintel reports buying and selling / swapping details of buyers
Post by: samesamebutdifferent on July 23, 2013, 08:57 pm
There is absolutely NO personal info sharing on the Vendor Roundtable.
ok so how did he get the address(wrong one) a guess
we aint stupid and another mod admitted he knew about it buddy , maybe ask first  ;)

I'm the only other mod and that never happened joolz. If you want me to pull up my posts in relation to this I will, if my memory serves me correctly though I think I said something along the lines of "what is mintel?" and "you are talking shit again as per usual joolz".



Title: Re: wtf mintel reports buying and selling / swapping details of buyers
Post by: joolz on July 24, 2013, 02:00 am
I ment my or someone else addres or addresses  are being swapped / traded / bought and sent you the pm,s you said you knew it was happening ? right and you or your believe chendog and said I made the shill accounts ... wtf
want me to get my messages posted too ? no problem you first  ;)


 fuk the mintel reports that was what I called it what you call it data swapping ?  you first (will  get the pms )
brb             but you first then samesame? what pms  you refering too? yours scouts or libs ?
Title: Re: wtf reports buying and selling / swapping details of buyers
Post by: MC Haberdasher on July 24, 2013, 02:15 am
I once met a girl from Dunoon..

Her fanny smelled like a Baboon

If you gave her a shilling, she'd be more than willing

To suck your champagne cork dry!

;)
Title: Re: wtf mintel reports buying and selling / swapping details of buyers
Post by: samesamebutdifferent on July 24, 2013, 03:54 am
I ment my or someone else addres or addresses  are being swapped / traded / bought and sent you the pm,s you said you knew it was happening ? right and you or your believe chendog and said I made the shill accounts ... wtf
want me to get my messages posted too ? no problem you first  ;)


 fuk the mintel reports that was what I called it what you call it data swapping ?  you first (will  get the pms )
brb             but you first then samesame? what pms  you refering too? yours scouts or libs ?

I was referring to my posts on the forums joolz, I am not in the habit of posting private messages as I would consider that a breach of confidentiality.

And for the record I have never said to you in a post or via PM that I am aware of any trading/selling/exchanging of buyer info on SR, that is utterly false and you know it.

In actual fact having a read of my sent messages I do see one PM that I sent to you in reply to you sending me an alleged copy and pasted message from a vendor to which my response was:

"Take it to the admins Joolz, I am a moderator, I cannot help you with this stuff via the forums, can I be any clearer! report it via customer support on the main site."

I will not allow myself to be drawn into whatever little fantasy world you seem to exist in, you invest way too much time, effort and energy spamming up these forums with lies and FUD, seriously find a new hobby because even my writing this post is a complete waste of my time.

End of discussion.
Title: Re: wtf reports buying and selling / swapping details of buyers
Post by: BruceCampbell on July 24, 2013, 04:06 am
"why you got the vendors table then the deep vendors table wtf is this all about and whats going on you keep and cross referance all the sales buyers who to avoid etc"

Where the fuck is the deep vendors table and why wasn't I invited?

Fuck you guys...  :(
Title: Re: wtf reports buying and selling / swapping details of buyers
Post by: samesamebutdifferent on July 24, 2013, 04:09 am
"why you got the vendors table then the deep vendors table wtf is this all about and whats going on you keep and cross referance all the sales buyers who to avoid etc"

Where the fuck is the deep vendors table and why wasn't I invited?

Fuck you guys...  :(

I wouldn't get your panties in a bunch Bruce, the only place the "deep vendors table wtf" exists is in joolz's wild imagination.
Title: Re: wtf reports buying and selling / swapping details of buyers
Post by: BruceCampbell on July 24, 2013, 04:15 am
Lol. Joolz is fucktard. You know I'm the deep table mod samesame. We just keep it hush hush. I am the Commandant and your superior in this regard. Joolz has stumbled on to our secret. But nobody will believe him so I feel catharsis revealing my secret here.

I wasn't here...

 :-X
Title: Re: wtf reports buying and selling / swapping details of buyers
Post by: samesamebutdifferent on July 24, 2013, 04:38 am
Lol. Joolz is fucktard. You know I'm the deep table mod samesame. We just keep it hush hush. I am the Commandant and your superior in this regard. Joolz has stumbled on to our secret. But nobody will believe him so I feel catharsis revealing my secret here.

I wasn't here...

 :-X

Yes boss  :-X
Title: Re: wtf reports buying and selling / swapping details of buyers
Post by: weeal on July 24, 2013, 07:02 am
I once met a girl from Dunoon..

Her fanny smelled like a Baboon

If you gave her a shilling, she'd be more than willing

To suck your champagne cork dry!

;)
Love it MC Haberdasher sounds like yer scottish wi that poem eh barry lad
made ez laugh so +1 for ya pal
Title: Re: wtf reports buying and selling / swapping details of buyers
Post by: joolz on July 24, 2013, 09:20 am
ok so you never said you were aware that folk keep buyer details and threaten them ? no
who lived on the moon ? yeh ok I made it all up then ...
very good , you still aint said anything about the pm on this forum the other day from chemdogsunrise threatening  some poor fukers address  ..................again 
shame on you same same     KY8 5AF   is the postcode kirkady , want any more details  ? name ?
Paul ?
Title: Re: wtf reports buying and selling / swapping details of buyers
Post by: cirrus on July 24, 2013, 09:24 am
joolz - it's not "proof" when it's a message you have copied and pasted but that can't be found anywhere in the actual messaging system. 
Title: Re: wtf reports buying and selling / swapping details of buyers
Post by: joolz on July 24, 2013, 09:36 am
joolz - it's not "proof" when it's a message you have copied and pasted but that can't be found anywhere in the actual messaging system.
you want my password coz its still there ? that not proof enough or do you want the isp address ?
come on guys we aint sheep
earn your money or right ..............and stop with the 3 d,s
so you dont believe chemdogsunrise threatened   KY8 5AF and I made it all up  lol  more d,s  anyway  he did .... now earn it
(respect is earned not given or bought)    ;D
now you gona let this worm away with this ? oh we will be leaving  but when we want
Title: Re: wtf reports buying and selling / swapping details of buyers
Post by: joolz on July 24, 2013, 09:41 am
I once met a girl from Dunoon..

Her fanny smelled like a Baboon

If you gave her a shilling, she'd be more than willing

To suck your champagne cork dry!

;)
eh ? you a poet or something ? or you got a problem mate ? or you just one of the gang sent to discredit us
either way buddy bring it on mc basher  we got friends too ;D in places you could only dream about and we love this  ;)
Title: Re: wtf reports buying and selling / swapping details of buyers
Post by: samesamebutdifferent on July 24, 2013, 09:44 am
ok so you never said you were aware that folk keep buyer details and threaten them ? no
who lived on the moon ? yeh ok I made it all up then ...
very good , you still aint said anything about the pm on this forum the other day from chemdogsunrise threatening  some poor fukers address  ..................again 
shame on you same same     KY8 5AF   is the postcode kirkady , want any more details  ? name ?
Paul ?

As per usual joolz you are deliberately trying to misrepresent things, either that or you really are too dense to know the difference. Of course I am aware of incidents where identifiable information has been alleged to have been used for nefarious reasons, we have all seen issues on the forums where this has been alleged. That does however NOT automatically legitimize your allegations, you reported your allegations, they were investigated by the admins and they were not substantiated.

When you were contacting me regarding what you alleged was happening I told you time and time again you cannot get help via the forums and to report it.

I think you feel aggrieved that your allegations were not found to be true and you have come to the conclusion that if you keep banging on about it in the forums you will get some support and/or prove your point.

You won't, unless you have some real, actual, verifiable PROOF then you are just making a lot of noise and achieving nothing. Maybe you interpret that as SR support/the mods not caring, I really don't know.

Does any of that make sense to you? can you see my point of view?

Title: Re: wtf reports buying and selling / swapping details of buyers
Post by: joolz on July 24, 2013, 09:53 am
Lol. Joolz is fucktard. You know I'm the deep table mod samesame. We just keep it hush hush. I am the Commandant and your superior in this regard. Joolz has stumbled on to our secret. But nobody will believe him so I feel catharsis revealing my secret here.

I wasn't here...

 :-X
id say rip off  :-X  whats the vendors round table and what do you vendors do that the sheep of Sr cant see (i know ) care to explain to the sheep sorry buyers what you discuss  ;D 
we buyers or sheep are dying to know why you got your own club and what you discuss  ;D care to elaborate or you gona laugh /dicredit it or me off
do tell
Title: Re: wtf reports buying and selling / swapping details of buyers
Post by: chemdog on July 24, 2013, 01:57 pm
Man... Just let it go. I cannot believe you have invested so much of yourself into this facade, only to kick it all back up again when it dies down.

The only effect it has had on my business is that it has turned into the most tremendous advertising opportunity, so in that capacity I am extremely grateful for your fantasy. Thanks to you Joolz, I've got more orders than it is possible for one person to pack in the schedule I keep.

Even though it cost me money at a time I couldn't afford to lose it and also upset various members of my family, both immediate and extended.

And it is this last point I would like to touch upon.

We never keep details and as such, I don't have your address Joolz. If I did, you can be damn sure action would have been taken by now because although I prefer to walk peaceful paths, my financial backers don't see things as I do.

They see you as a risk.

I see you as someone who is very hurt and is desperately trying to leverage social pressure in order to justify your previous actions. You are the reason I wouldn't smack a crying child who was ill and why I don't like fighting drunk people.

As I have mentioned before, I now refuse to open any messages which I believe to be from you or an account associated with you. I did begin thinking the other night as to whether I should open the latest one, given the subject line. I mean hey, time is healer and all that...

Screenshot of inbox and subject lines: http://xqz3u5drneuzhaeo.onion/users/qicpic/files/4zv.jpg

Then I get here and see this shit. Again.

Why the hell would I open that message now? Please tell me.

I have been contacted by at least three other vendors who detailed what you did to them, which was strangely similar to what you did to me.

Oh, except you pretended to be a girl with one of them.

I am going to write all this up and leave it as a permanent record somewhere because I am bored responding to you. Silence is unacceptable by my own standard, but repetition is time consuming and I have orders to pack.

£1000? pfft... You really are dumb.

If you were stupid and insane enough to raid an SR vendor, and it was purely for mercenary gain, screw bounties. You target the vendors with the largest volumes of the highest cost goods, because if you are going to kick a hornets nest, you would want to do it for a worthwhile profit, not the chicken-feed level I am working at.

Please tell me there is no one here that stupid to actually do this.

There is a reason I spent three months setting up physical and info security before we started here. Yes, one in addition to me being paranoid.

You are that reason Joolz. I wish I could wish you the best of luck.

To everyone reading, even Joolz (though I have been told numerous times that he does not actually read, just scan):

Always remember if there is any doubt as to someone posing as me from an account not normally associated with the Mrs or myself, just ask us to sign a PGP message using our keys. It is not a problem at all and we're kinda glad people are taking an interest in the verification of pseudo-identities.

For the record, there is one vendor account only, which is: chemdogsunrise

On the forum, there are two accounts: chemdog and chemdogsunrise. I had setup this account (chemdog) before I knew of the vendor roundtable or the rules regarding its membership. To those who don't know, you can only join the roundtable forum section if some criteria are met:

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The Vendor roundtable is a private message board on the Silk Road forum for vendors to discuss issues in private. To qualify for access to the board, you must meet the following requirements:

    You must have received a bond refund.
    Your forum username must be identical to your vendor username
    You must keep a link to your vendor page in your forum signature

When you've met these criteria, message Vendor Support and they will give you access.

Over a year on, I still don't have access to the roundtable.

* I joined long before the increase in vendor account fees, so do not qualify for a bond refund.
* I have created a forum username that matches my vendor account (chemdogsunrise), but I'm not really in favour of creating 50 vacuous posts, so am currently stuck in Newbie jail. I couldn't respond to this nonsense with that account for instance, so the little time I have to post on here is done via this account.
* I do keep a link in my sig, so that's one box ticked at least.

Part of the OP tickled me in that respect. Sharing and collusion by me at the roundtable? LOL! Please. I'm not in the roundtable but I do have messages that I have sent to Scout, Nomad Bloodbath and Inigo at various points over the last year asking for membership?

I think that's it for now. I will not be responding again in this thread unless requested by a mod.

Namaste to you all.
Title: Re: wtf reports buying and selling / swapping details of buyers
Post by: MC Haberdasher on July 24, 2013, 02:16 pm
I once met a girl from Dunoon..

Her fanny smelled like a Baboon

If you gave her a shilling, she'd be more than willing

To suck your champagne cork dry!

;)
eh ? you a poet or something ? or you got a problem mate ? or you just one of the gang sent to discredit us
either way buddy bring it on mc basher  we got friends too ;D in places you could only dream about and we love this  ;)

Ya know, being an MC and all, it's in my nature to spit a rhyme here and there.  I was merely trying to lighten the mood. 
Title: Re: wtf reports buying and selling / swapping details of buyers
Post by: ukbenjy on July 24, 2013, 03:08 pm
...The only effect it has had on my business is that it has turned into the most tremendous advertising opportunity, so in that capacity I am extremely grateful for your fantasy...

+1 to that Chemdog, next time I get coins in I'll be buying a gram or two from you, I like how you've carried yourself through this! It must be hard not getting angry over totally baseless accusations, but at least it's obvious to anyone reading these threads that you're an upstanding vendor, and that Joolz is clearly off his meds!!