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Discussion => Newbie discussion => Topic started by: Cyrax on July 16, 2013, 11:20 pm
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I was always fascinated with the art of counterfeiting money. Not for the purpose of going and deceiving small business owners by giving them counterfeits and getting legitimate currency in return but doing it because of the challenge that comes with it.
So I was thinking of why not starting with USD because it seems to be the easiest to counterfeit. Try and do the digital method instead of the bleaching $1 bills and printing $100 on top of them.
What paper would be the most suited to give it that feel? I was researching and found that newsprint paper is probably the best way to start off with, print off the face and back of the bill on two separate sheets with the security features on one and then glue them together with a spray adhesive but all of that sounds like it would make the bill look sloppy and not feel right.
Any of you know any better ways?
This is all hypothetical and purely for research and development. I don't condone counterfeiting.
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Please note that in the United States, only the Federal Reserve is permitted to manufacture worthless currency.
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Please note that in the United States, only the Federal Reserve is permitted to manufacture worthless currency.
But.. but...
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find a mentor
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Please note that in the United States, only the Federal Reserve is permitted to manufacture worthless currency.
Awesome :) +1, AB.
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good luck and dont get arrested by the secret service
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good luck with your counterfeiting currency goals of 2013
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If it was that easy erryone would be doing it
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Its easier than people think (you used to be able to find 'how-to' videos on youtube, i remember watching them a few years back) but it also is getting harder and harder each year.
Look into 'Supernotes' and personal trial and error is probably the best teacher.
As for your moral stipulations regarding not defrauding individuals...just buy drugs with them. Drug dealers IRL usually wont notice funny money until its too late and even then, they cant report it:)
Also, this thread may be deleted, not positive, but counterfeit money is forbidden here :/
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Supernotes are believed to be produced by the North Korean government. To create quality counterfeit currency that can genuinely be circulated without detection requires resources an individual would struggle to acquire, anonymously at least, some pretty serious technology, and the technical skills to put it all together.
You could give it a go, I suppose, but yeah, U.S. federal prison would be extremely unpleasant, and there's little the American's take more seriously than their money...
The American currency is created by a single family owned company whose only customer is the government. They have some serious security features. Not as intense as Aussie money, our gov has apparently been leading the way for a couple of decades now in plastic notes and all the weird things that can be done with it. Best of luck, AB.
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I was always fascinated with the art of counterfeiting money. Not for the purpose of going and deceiving small business owners by giving them counterfeits and getting legitimate currency in return but doing it because of the challenge that comes with it.
So I was thinking of starting with USD because it seems to be the easiest to counterfeit. Try and do the digital method instead of the bleaching $1 bills and printing $100 on top of them.
What paper would be the most suited to give it that feel? I was researching and found that newsprint paper is probably the best way to start off with, print off the face and back of the bill on two separate sheets with the security features on one and then glue them together with a spray adhesive but all of that sounds like it would make the bill look sloppy and not feel right.
So any tips or methods you know of? I'm mainly interested in USD to start off with and then maybe move on to more complicated currencies like euro.
Just letting you know you would not be allowed to sell counterfeit money on SR as it is against the rules. Not sure if that might be your intention or not but thought I should mention it anyway.
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To be clear, counterfeit currency is prohibited on Silk Road.
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Well.....
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Just letting you know you would not be allowed to sell counterfeit money on SR as it is against the rules. Not sure if that might be your intention or not but thought I should mention it anyway.
Thanks for the notice but I wasn't going to sell counterfeits just more of a R&D thread to see if people have any advice when starting counterfeiting or share any experiences/knowledge just something to do when bored out of your mind. And this is purely for research, I'm not going to go and sell bills or deceive people small business owners with them got better things to do. Hah a ha
Its easier than people think (you used to be able to find 'how-to' videos on youtube, i remember watching them a few years back) but it also is getting harder and harder each year.
Look into 'Supernotes' and personal trial and error is probably the best teacher.
As for your moral stipulations regarding not defrauding individuals...just buy drugs with them. Drug dealers IRL usually wont notice funny money until its too late and even then, they cant report it:)
Also, this thread may be deleted, not positive, but counterfeit money is forbidden here :/
I heard about those Korean superbills too bad you'd need the same paper and ink (and probably even machinery) used to make the real bills or a very close second. There are actually still tutorials on youtube on how to make fake bills or 'prop money'.
I was thinking the same about trial and error..best bet would probably be to start with the lowest denominations since they have no security whatsoever except for the raised ink which is easy to replicate plus nobody would ever even check if the $1 or $2 are fake since it isn't worth to counterfeit those bills but my guess would be they are a great starting point.
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Please note that in the United States, only the Federal Reserve is permitted to manufacture worthless currency.
ROFLMAO
on that note, don't know how many remember when the treasury first changed the $100 note - back in the mid 1990s - i remember a banker friend telling me he'd been to a secret svc seminar he'd gone to for the bank, where they announced the upcoming change and said it was in response their suspicions IRAN was printing $1-1.5 Billion $100 bills a month and releasing them into circulation. Apparently we'd given the shah of Iran, before he was desposed by the Ayotollah, $100 plates - i've always wondered about that, and why would we have given him those
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Please note that in the United States, only the Federal Reserve is permitted to manufacture worthless currency.
ROFLMAO
on that note, don't know how many remember when the treasury first changed the $100 note - back in the mid 1990s - i remember a banker friend telling me he'd been to a secret svc seminar he'd gone to for the bank, where they announced the upcoming change and said it was in response their suspicions IRAN was printing $1-1.5 Billion $100 bills a month and releasing them into circulation. Apparently we'd given the shah of Iran, before he was desposed by the Ayotollah, $100 plates - i've always wondered about that, and why would we have given him those
Because they can't stop policing everyone and will look for any excuse to invade or fuck over its own citizens just to make a profit.
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Supernotes are believed to be produced by the North Korean government. To create quality counterfeit currency that can genuinely be circulated without detection requires resources an individual would struggle to acquire, anonymously at least, some pretty serious technology, and the technical skills to put it all together.
You could give it a go, I suppose, but yeah, U.S. federal prison would be extremely unpleasant, and there's little the American's take more seriously than their money...
The American currency is created by a single family owned company whose only customer is the government. They have some serious security features. Not as intense as Aussie money, our gov has apparently been leading the way for a couple of decades now in plastic notes and all the weird things that can be done with it. Best of luck, AB.
Good point but it's not like I would be taking all of the counterfeits and making them go into circulation, unless you are really good at it there's no point in counterfeiting in amounts that interest the feds because you wouldn't make it past a 7/11 clerk if your bills blow. But like I said its purely for research and seeing what are the most effective methods of doing it and because it looks like it would be pretty fun to take on the challenge in making the perfect superbill even thought this is pretty much next to impossible unless you are the Korean gov.
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Supernotes are believed to be produced by the North Korean government. To create quality counterfeit currency that can genuinely be circulated without detection requires resources an individual would struggle to acquire, anonymously at least, some pretty serious technology, and the technical skills to put it all together.
You could give it a go, I suppose, but yeah, U.S. federal prison would be extremely unpleasant, and there's little the American's take more seriously than their money...
The American currency is created by a single family owned company whose only customer is the government. They have some serious security features. Not as intense as Aussie money, our gov has apparently been leading the way for a couple of decades now in plastic notes and all the weird things that can be done with it. Best of luck, AB.
Good point but it's not like I would be taking all of the counterfeits and making them go into circulation, unless you are really good at it there's no point in counterfeiting in amounts that interest the feds because you wouldn't make it past a 7/11 clerk if your bills blow. But like I said its purely for research and seeing what are the most effective methods of doing it and because it looks like it would be pretty fun to take on the challenge in making the perfect superbill even thought this is pretty much next to impossible unless you are the Korean gov.
Yeah, sorry, I went a little overboard there :) If you're interested in this topic for research and fun and curiosity I think that's very cool, AB.
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Supernotes are believed to be produced by the North Korean government. To create quality counterfeit currency that can genuinely be circulated without detection requires resources an individual would struggle to acquire, anonymously at least, some pretty serious technology, and the technical skills to put it all together.
You could give it a go, I suppose, but yeah, U.S. federal prison would be extremely unpleasant, and there's little the American's take more seriously than their money...
The American currency is created by a single family owned company whose only customer is the government. They have some serious security features. Not as intense as Aussie money, our gov has apparently been leading the way for a couple of decades now in plastic notes and all the weird things that can be done with it. Best of luck, AB.
Good point but it's not like I would be taking all of the counterfeits and making them go into circulation, unless you are really good at it there's no point in counterfeiting in amounts that interest the feds because you wouldn't make it past a 7/11 clerk if your bills blow. But like I said its purely for research and seeing what are the most effective methods of doing it and because it looks like it would be pretty fun to take on the challenge in making the perfect superbill even thought this is pretty much next to impossible unless you are the Korean gov.
Yeah, sorry, I went a little overboard there :) If you're interested in this topic for research and fun and curiosity I think that's very cool, AB.
No need to apologize everything is good man and you didnt go overboard I thought your post was very interesting and helpful. Im just curious why isnt counterfeit money allowed on sr? As far as I saw there are ids and other documents on there making it look kinda weird allowing those but not money but then again I mainly hang out and buy in the cannabis section.
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Im just curious why isnt counterfeit money allowed on sr? As far as I saw there are ids and other documents on there making it look kinda weird allowing those but not money but then again I mainly hang out and buy in the cannabis section.
That's primarily because counterfeit money is used to harm people, whereas fake IDs/documents don't inherently harm others.
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There are so many security features on a bill, especially with all of the new-age colored bills (and the new $100's coming out later this year). If you end up counterfeiting anything, just do $20's and use them somewhere you don't normally go to make a purchase that gives change back.
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That's primarily because counterfeit money is used to harm people, whereas fake IDs/documents don't inherently harm others.
Yeah I get you now. good enough reason.
There are so many security features on a bill, especially with all of the new-age colored bills (and the new $100's coming out later this year). If you end up counterfeiting anything, just do $20's and use them somewhere you don't normally go to make a purchase that gives change back.
The new $100 looks like shit. I hate the orange 100 on the backside, makes it look like monopoly money. And good point on the $20s but I wont be counterfeiting (decided not to even if I wasnt going to go and buy stuff wit the counterfeits) it takes too much time and effort and chances of getting busted after using a counterfeit are pretty big. not worth the risk at the end imo