Here's another misconception with opana's. You can't just suck off the coating and defeat the TimerX mechanism. The timerX is matrixed into the pill. when snorted, you dont even have to scrape off the outer coating. Some do, i do not. when that crushed up pill hits water, its going to gel. That's why its important to do smaller lines (when snorting) and to do the iso extraction method or just put the pill in a syringe for 24 hours. I've heard other people say that all you have to do is suck off the coating and your good to go. That isn't true at all... If you have any questions regarding extraction or the makeup, go to opiophile.org. you will find all the information that you will need there... Dont hesitate to hit me up with any questions either..