This is interesting to me. I am in charge of a web site that sells products and takes credit cards every day. Some times, when they call in and want to do a transaction over the phone because they dont trust the internet (what they don't realize is that is all that im doing, lol). When I get a credit card payment I never see the credit card number. I can only see the last 4 digits and the customers mailing info. I do go thru authorize.net So, im guessing that it depends on the web site. If they are set up like an authorize.net it would be next to impossible to steal credit cards. Btw, honest merchants like the one im affiliated with are the ones that pay extra for the fraud. Since we don't have the cc in front of us, we pay an extra percentage. So, obviously, not only for moral reasons, Im totally against selling cc info. Also, I when I read the big news story about silk road, silk roads response was that they dont allow cp, cc info, weapons, etc. what happened to that? I don't care too much about the weapons but I am against cp and cc info. Ive had my cc stolen and it's not fun going thru the process.