Silk Road forums
Discussion => Newbie discussion => Topic started by: scout on January 19, 2013, 02:37 am
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As you spend time here, you will likely come across bitcoin scams. In order to help you stay as safe as possible, we thought it would be best to make a thread listing the obvious bitcoin scams & scammer sites. Feel free to post any others you notice.
Do not send payments to any of the following sites under any circumstances!
SCAM SITES:
*** bitswing
*** bitcointalks (bitcointalk.org is a legitimate forum, but "bitcointalks.com" is a scam)
*** virwex (virwox is/was an exchange, but "virwex" is a scam)
*** btkoin
*** mtgix
Also:
1. Never finalize early on the marketplace
2. Never send money or bitcoins to someone offering a good or service via PM
3. Don't fall for it if someone on the forum says that sending them bitcoins is necessary (unless you have placed an order with an official vendor over on the market site, there is no reason you would need to send anyone your bitcoins)
4. Always, always stay in escrow!
5. Be vigilant & help look out for the rest of the community!
** When a deal seems "too good to be true" - there's a high probability that it is a scam. Be very careful and always make sure that you research vendors/sites before giving them any of your hard-earned money!
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There are lots of really creative scams for Bitcoin. One might think they'd make some cash if they dedicated their efforts at legitimate, if illegal business.
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Good lookin out
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cool story
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Excellent points. I notice that on the wiki and to many vendors, an 'option' exists for whether or not you want to FE. Ignore this - NEVER FE! It's a safety feature. I don't care how much you like this person or how much free stuff that person has given you. There is no such thing as 100% trust here.
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Thanks for the warning
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Bitcointalk.org is excellent.
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Excellent points. I notice that on the wiki and to many vendors, an 'option' exists for whether or not you want to FE. Ignore this - NEVER FE! It's a safety feature. I don't care how much you like this person or how much free stuff that person has given you. There is no such thing as 100% trust here.
I don't care if I sound retarded but, the fuck stands "FE" for?
I've seen it a lot on here and have no clue :o
(it's my first day in school!)
Thanks
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Excellent points. I notice that on the wiki and to many vendors, an 'option' exists for whether or not you want to FE. Ignore this - NEVER FE! It's a safety feature. I don't care how much you like this person or how much free stuff that person has given you. There is no such thing as 100% trust here.
I don't care if I sound retarded but, the fuck stands "FE" for?
I've seen it a lot on here and have no clue :o
(it's my first day in school!)
Thanks
You don't sound retarded at all! FE = finalize early. It's when you buy a product and then release your bitcoin payment to the vendor prior to receiving your order. This is a VERY easy way to get scammed, so you should try to avoid doing it at all costs. Vendors aren't allowed to "require" anyone to FE. If they do, then find another vendor who doesn't require it. Instead, always stay in escrow -- for your own safety! In escrow, you don't pay until you receive the order. A lot less chance of getting scammed that way.
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Keep your eye out for the next big one
Silk Road reported the greatest scam in its fifteen-month history, which cost the site’s users over a hundred thousand dollars in just two days.
Silk Road’s vendors live and die by their reputation and feedback, which buyers give much as they do on eBay. Nobody on Silk Road had a better reputation or more enthusiastic feedback than Tony76, a vendor of heroin, stimulants and psychedelics from Canada.
The site has a system of escrow in place – a user places an order, money goes into escrow and the user releases it once the order has been received. Any disputes can be referred to the site’s administrators for resolution.
However, ‘trusted vendors’ have always been allowed to request that users ‘finalize early’ – release the funds immediately. New members to the site are often asked to do so until they prove themselves to be ‘trusted buyers’, and sellers will ask for early finalisation when bitcoin – the virtual currency used to trade on the site – is fluctuating wildly.
A few days before the great ‘420 Sale and Giveaway’ held on April 20, Tony76 posted in the forums that he was being targeted by a vindictive rival seller who had threatened to set up bogus buyer accounts to order thousands of dollars of drugs in “multiple orders, in multiple names, from multiple states”. Tony would have no way of knowing which were the bogus accounts and would lose the money not released from escrow.
‘Don’t worry’ came the flood of replies from Silk Road’s community. ‘Everyone knows and trusts you, Tony. To avoid this horrible scammer, just make everyone finalize early.’
So when Silk Road held the ‘420 Sale and Giveaway’, the site’s highest-grossing and most trusted vendor, “Tony76”, jumped on board, offering fabulous discounts on his products and for the first time ever opened up shop to buyers outside North America. Orders flooded in from users well accustomed to receiving high quality goods from this seller and from new users, excited to have the chance to buy from such an esteemed identity.
And Tony, sadly, had to ask all buyers to finalize early until he could sort out the situation with the scammer. And of course they did. He was the most highly respected and prolific seller on Silk Road; the buyers had had countless transactions that went smoothly; anyway, to not finalize might mean missing out on a bargain.
A week later the rumblings started. The local orders should have arrived by now. Tony wasn’t answering messages. The bespoke site Tony had set up was gone.
Two weeks later the rumbles became a roar as it became clear that the most trusted vendor on Silk Road had absconded with what buyers estimated was over a hundred thousand dollars for a single weekend’s work. One moderator of the forums placed it at a cool quarter of a million dollars.
There followed much angst and hand-wringing going on at Silk Road. Some believed Tony76 was killed by Mexican drug lords. Others assumed he had been busted. Many refused to believe that someone in their ‘Community’ would do such a thing. Then came the conspiracy theories: he is already selling under another name; Silk Road’s owners are in on it; it’s all part of a worldwide sting and nobody is safe; Tony76 is actually a Canadian bikie gang.
Perhaps the greatest surprise to take from this is the number of people who are shocked that a drug dealer would rip them off. Silk Road’s advice: never trade outside of escrow.
It’s a lesson that will stay with their customers for a long time.
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Excellent points. I notice that on the wiki and to many vendors, an 'option' exists for whether or not you want to FE. Ignore this - NEVER FE! It's a safety feature. I don't care how much you like this person or how much free stuff that person has given you. There is no such thing as 100% trust here.
I don't care if I sound retarded but, the fuck stands "FE" for?
I've seen it a lot on here and have no clue :o
(it's my first day in school!)
Thanks
You don't sound retarded at all! FE = finalize early. It's when you buy a product and then release your bitcoin payment to the vendor prior to receiving your order. This is a VERY easy way to get scammed, so you should try to avoid doing it at all costs. Vendors aren't allowed to "require" anyone to FE. If they do, then find another vendor who doesn't require it. Instead, always stay in escrow -- for your own safety! In escrow, you don't pay until you receive the order. A lot less chance of getting scammed that way.
Thanks for your reply mod! Quite an honor ;)
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Just to reiterate DO NOT FE early in almost any circumstance. I recently FE'd on a 60 dollar order from TabMonster and now he's gone rogue. Learn from my mistake (or at least check the forums).
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Had me scared for a moment- thought that my trusted lindens to bitcoins distributor virwox wasn't legit!
Reading on substances is hard.
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Wow, a quarter million is a super hard lesson.. i feel for everyone.. it was the act of getting burned on some code by my trusted street guy for well over a year that got me searching the web and lead me to here for an alternative. I hope to have much better luck here then on the street.
My main concern other then having stuff shipped to my home address and trying to find a po box that will take fake info, is the FE that is required for newbie. Should we just look around until we find someone that will do escrow if they ask us to FE? or are we sorta required to take the change before anyone will trust us?
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My main concern other then having stuff shipped to my home address and trying to find a po box that will take fake info, is the FE that is required for newbie. Should we just look around until we find someone that will do escrow if they ask us to FE? or are we sorta required to take the change before anyone will trust us?
HELL NO! You are NEVER truly required to FE! Some vendors will put that on their profiles, but it is actually against the rules to REQUIRE early finalizing.
Yes, you should always look around until you find a vendor who lets you stay in escrow. Never, never, NEVER finalize early!
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awesome, some good confirmation. I'll keep that to heart! 8) Now i just have to decide the best bit coin vendor.
White i try to decide the best way to gets cash into coins into my SR wallet I've been doing some mining and realizing that my gforce GTX 460 SE sucks donkey balls at 70-80 Mhash/s compared to AMD's vid cards.. 200+. :o
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use bitcopia
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Hi,
Im sorry I post here, but the newbie forums are currently beeing overrun by spammers:
My problem:
I registred to SR. I sent 9 BTC on my acc.
Now I cant log in.
Have I been scammed? Im pretty sure I have the right username / pass.
Is there a way how to reclaim my account?
Thank you!
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Why not use btc-otc? It might be a hassle to figure out, but the web of trust works well. Quick service, decent rates and you can shop around.
Make sure your vendor is authorised before you transfer money. If you don't know what this is, find out.
I might write a FAQ if there isn't one up already.
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This is a reputable place to buy Coin
https://bitbargain.co.uk/
Dead simple to make an account easy to get around,I know I got the link from a DPR post I think but its all kosha. 8)
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Usually I used btc-e.com
very pleased with the service)
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Bitcoin scams are bad. M'kay.
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i m also fairly concerned about getting bitc... luckily a mate gave me loads but i gone thru them q2uite quickly... also in my country the official bitc site is down...
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Thanks for the tips
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I got stung once by those bitcointalks.com idiots, by the time word got to me it was too late. Good thing they're not from this continent. Since then I've done alot more research and deal with reliable folks. Get me once shame on you, get me twice shame on me. I call them idiots because if they put all their scam efforts towards actually selling product, they'd make more in the long run and develop a good rep.
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thx for the info
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This was my first purchase on SR and I lost over $100 to TabMonster disappearing. Lesson learned. I won't ever FE again. I guess it's a learning experience, but at the same time I've paid for bad LSD on the streets before. Live and learn.
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thanks for the heads up! i use bitinstant to fund i just go to cvs but idk what im gonna do when i need to get multiple stacks onto my bitcoin address doesn't that look a little suspicous? or will they do anything
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If newbie's do need coins I can garentee https://bitbargain.co.uk/ for user's living in the Uk and I know Vervox is reputable i've used them many time's to buy other alternate currency's using a program called second life,but I'm not sure if they still do btc because it wouldn't suprise me if they thought it was to much hassle because of the Verwex scam but they are reputable if they're still selling btc.
Do a little research if the coin market is at £10 per btc or $15 dollar's whatever it is your not going to get them for much less there can be a little difference there has to be but in general even buying bulk coin your not going to get massive discounts dont even think your going to get 1200 coins for $800 or whatever i'm pretty sure even as a newbie that they would be running at a loss.
Peace
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Maybe a sticky with known reputable btc should be made but with no assurances obviously.
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TORWallet.net is a scam - you can deposit coins, but you will never be able to withdraw... This is confirmed by several members on bitcointalk.org
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anyone have luck with any of the members of SR themselves?
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anyone have luck with any of the members of SR themselves?
Not exactly sure what you meen by "any luck with SR themselves" any luck with what SR starting a btc trade,I agree that would be a good idea if there was a garenteed source on SR that would be nice and i'm sure a lot of the 1st gen SR'rs are selling btc as a 3rd party just not here,but it would be nice if there was a btc trader in the Uk, Europe, and the states they would make a killing because i'm sure most people would rather do business with a name they see either on forums or as a vendor I know my sites good because its legit but the coin isnt the cheapest but I know its good and always goes straight in,once I click buy the coins are frozen from his account and all he can do is either cancel or sell so your not getting scammed but this is only a Uk site for pingit and UKBT.
Peace.
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Here in the US, log into blockchain.info, create a temporary wallet, click fund, the site even gives you all the account numbers and info to fill in the next form>>>, just go into a Walmart, get a blue moneygram form, fill in your bogus or real info and the account info from the previous form. Pay the oblivious person your cash, check your online wallet in 3 minutes its funded. Then you can tumble or do what you please like send it to a "real wallet" on your pc or whatever until you are ready to spend it. I dont really get why people need to go for all these bitcoin scams? Is it that they want to save a few bucks? Buyer beware I gess. I just hope the WalMart blue money form thing works in the future, so far no one has ever asked for an ID or anything...Peace.
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Here in the US, log into blockchain.info, create a temporary wallet, click fund, the site even gives you all the account numbers and info to fill in the next form>>>, just go into a Walmart,
no walmart here - need to trade online
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In terms of going thru SR members directly for BTC, from my lurking it appears that Blue Sky Traders and CaptainMal (can't find his name in a search now, may be misspelling or he is no longer active / switched names?) have been reliable.
For instance, there is an item open now: http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/item/e30e903d1a offering BTC for cash in the mail. One question I have is how does the seller not have a feedback score after their name at all despite all the feedback on the page? Is that indicative that all of the positive feedback is fake and they haven't actually had any successful trades?
TL;DR version: I want to find a balance between low-fee and convenience for potentially large, frequent cash transfers to BTC. If I want to move $1k cash to BTC now and then do so semi-regularly going forward, what's the best way to get this done yesterday? Bitinstant? Bitcopia? Direct on SR?
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Keep your eye out for the next big one
Silk Road reported the greatest scam in its fifteen-month history, which cost the site’s users over a hundred thousand dollars in just two days.
Silk Road’s vendors live and die by their reputation and feedback, which buyers give much as they do on eBay. Nobody on Silk Road had a better reputation or more enthusiastic feedback than Tony76, a vendor of heroin, stimulants and psychedelics from Canada.
The site has a system of escrow in place – a user places an order, money goes into escrow and the user releases it once the order has been received. Any disputes can be referred to the site’s administrators for resolution.
However, ‘trusted vendors’ have always been allowed to request that users ‘finalize early’ – release the funds immediately. New members to the site are often asked to do so until they prove themselves to be ‘trusted buyers’, and sellers will ask for early finalisation when bitcoin – the virtual currency used to trade on the site – is fluctuating wildly.
A few days before the great ‘420 Sale and Giveaway’ held on April 20, Tony76 posted in the forums that he was being targeted by a vindictive rival seller who had threatened to set up bogus buyer accounts to order thousands of dollars of drugs in “multiple orders, in multiple names, from multiple states”. Tony would have no way of knowing which were the bogus accounts and would lose the money not released from escrow.
‘Don’t worry’ came the flood of replies from Silk Road’s community. ‘Everyone knows and trusts you, Tony. To avoid this horrible scammer, just make everyone finalize early.’
So when Silk Road held the ‘420 Sale and Giveaway’, the site’s highest-grossing and most trusted vendor, “Tony76”, jumped on board, offering fabulous discounts on his products and for the first time ever opened up shop to buyers outside North America. Orders flooded in from users well accustomed to receiving high quality goods from this seller and from new users, excited to have the chance to buy from such an esteemed identity.
And Tony, sadly, had to ask all buyers to finalize early until he could sort out the situation with the scammer. And of course they did. He was the most highly respected and prolific seller on Silk Road; the buyers had had countless transactions that went smoothly; anyway, to not finalize might mean missing out on a bargain.
A week later the rumblings started. The local orders should have arrived by now. Tony wasn’t answering messages. The bespoke site Tony had set up was gone.
Two weeks later the rumbles became a roar as it became clear that the most trusted vendor on Silk Road had absconded with what buyers estimated was over a hundred thousand dollars for a single weekend’s work. One moderator of the forums placed it at a cool quarter of a million dollars.
There followed much angst and hand-wringing going on at Silk Road. Some believed Tony76 was killed by Mexican drug lords. Others assumed he had been busted. Many refused to believe that someone in their ‘Community’ would do such a thing. Then came the conspiracy theories: he is already selling under another name; Silk Road’s owners are in on it; it’s all part of a worldwide sting and nobody is safe; Tony76 is actually a Canadian bikie gang.
Perhaps the greatest surprise to take from this is the number of people who are shocked that a drug dealer would rip them off. Silk Road’s advice: never trade outside of escrow.
It’s a lesson that will stay with their customers for a long time.
That's a great story for the newbies to read. Just like on the West side of Chicago it's buyer beware. Some ties you get really good shit and sometimes you get whoop bags.
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Thanks for the warning
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Yeah Do not FE....This should be enough
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Thanks for the advice, particularly SCOUTS comments.
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My very first SR day and first forum read is about this scam....laugh or cry??? Not only does it explain a lot about how things work but also about how anything worthwhile talks some diligence. Thanks for the story.
My thing is getting down the whole BTC funding. I know it's not rocket science but a little overwhelming with the process. I'm gonna read up on that now and be back if I need help.
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thanks for the heads up scout... DEF something the admins should make mandatory for new buyers to read!
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that was a humbling story. At least the site and community grew stronger because of that
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Just to reiterate DO NOT FE early in almost any circumstance. I recently FE'd on a 60 dollar order from TabMonster and now he's gone rogue. Learn from my mistake (or at least check the forums).
Ha, same from this dumb newb. Same vendor, same price, same product I'm sure. Knew the risks and did it anyway cause of his good feedback and posts on this forum of people reviewing his product. My bad. Not going to make that mistake again.
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Scam scram
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At first, getting bitcoins can seem like a daunting task--it isn't. Follow these instructions:
-- To start, open a throwaway account with Mt. Gox at https://mtgox.com/. No need to verify this account unless you're gonna be trading big money.
-- Go to "funding options/add funds"
-- Use the drop-down menu to select "BitInstant," which will give you instructions and your account number.
-- Go to BitInstant at https://www.bitinstant.com/
-- The reason you need a Mt. Gox account is that BitInstant doesn't sell bitcoins; you must trade for them at Mt. Gox. BitInstant allows you to immediately fund your Mt. Gox account so you can start trading.
-- Use the drop-down menu to select "cash deposit" and choose a local retailer, such as Wal-Mart or CVS.
-- Fill in your info and you will download a .pdf file with information for filling out a blue MoneyGram slip at Wal-Mart. Basically, you're "paying a bill" to ZipZap, Inc. and you will be entering their four-digit receive code and account number on the form. Use your real name, address, etc. on the MoneyGram. It doesn't matter, since everything will be laundered and untraceable by the time it gets to Silk Road. Use fake info for your Mt. Gox account, although I don't think it matters. Some people use fake names on the MoneyGram. I guess it doesn't make any difference, since they don't require ID. I used my real info because I was afraid of the transaction being flagged or cancelled.
-- Go to your local retailer, fill out the MoneyGram with the info provided from BitInstant, and pay for it with cash. There is a $3.95 fee.
-- You money will appear in your Mt. Gox account within 4 minutes--1 hour at the most (never takes that long).
-- Use the "trade" button to buy bitcoins.
-- Go to "funding options/withdraw" and use the drop-down menu to select "bitcoins" as your currency. Enter the amount and bitcoin address from Silk Road (find that on your SR account page--looks like this: 1GDGgeTfNrxdhmJokSP7EqVRZGXSFuSnfp)
-- If you have 5.67 bitcoins with Mt. Gox, transfer 5.66 to cover the transaction fee. Select the option for faster transfer (0.005 BTC).
-- It may take several hours for your bitcoins to show up, but they will. Once they are in your SR wallet, you're ready to order.
I hope this helps. This is the fastest, most reliable way that I've found to get bitcoins. If you bank with a major financial institution, you also have the option of transfering funds directly to BitInstant. While this doesn't involve leaving the house and taking out cash, I'm not sure if it's any slower than using a MoneyGram. One drawback to this method is that you have to provide BitInstant with your banking username and password (scary!) BitInstant is reputable, but that is just information that I don't want to release.
Let me know if you have questions or problems. I discovered Silk Road less than two weeks ago and spent an evening teaching myself all about Tor browsers, bitcoins, PGP, and everything else. It takes some doing, but it is worth it. Read the feedback, forums, encrypt your address, and don't FE. (Download Portable PGP at http://ppgp.sourceforge.net/, which has a very user-friendly interface.) While address encryption is not strictly necessary, it adds an extra layer of security to your purchase. I've had three flawless transactions and I couldn't be happier.
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That is very helpful - thanks.
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That is very helpful - thanks.
I'm not sure if your comment is directed toward me or not, but I'll assume that it is and you're welcome. We might as well all try to help each other out while we're getting to the 50-post mark that will unlock the rest of the forums.
I posted a new thread with some helpful tips on basic navigation of SR, PGP, bitcoins, etc. at http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=112029.0. Check it out for more info.
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I hate getting scammed.
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thanks for the heads up
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there is a guy around atempting to sell bitcoins via paypal/
you pay him via paypal and he send bitcoin to your bc wallet.
i sppoke to him for a bit. and it seems dodgey. i reckon he may be a cop fishing for info form you paypal ids
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there is a guy around atempting to sell bitcoins via paypal/
you pay him via paypal and he send bitcoin to your bc wallet.
i sppoke to him for a bit. and it seems dodgey. i reckon he may be a cop fishing for info form you paypal ids
I would definitely avoid guys/situations such as these. There is no reason to get your bitcoins from anywhere but a reputable exchange, such as Mt. Gox ... and you have to ask yourself, Why is this guy trying to sell bitcoins on SR when he can sell them on an exchange? It's weird and is probably some kind of scam ... or maybe he IS a cop ... either way, steer clear and never give out identifying information on this site, such as your PayPal address or email address.
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Ok, so as long as I stay in escrow, I should be fine. I am mostly interested in pharmaceuticals like xanx, I'm a good customer, my last order was over 2k and I do it weekly. However, I just need to find that right guy. And I will read everything that I can, thank you so much for positing this.
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How do I set up an account to get bitcoins off here into an account and into cash safely?
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That story about tony is crazy, but yeah its obvious that eventually people with great feedback will realize they can cashout whenever and get over 100k for free and just make a new account.
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Another newbie here says thanks to this great thread. Yes buying drugs is always a risky business so am glad to read all of the above. The drugs I'm particularly interested in are mdma, cocaine and maybe some of the psychedelics. Just getting my head around the whole bitcoin thing. In the last week bitcoins have jumped up and down in price a lot - is it always like this? If bitcoin price is high does that mean the drug price will come down? Once I get my head around the encryption and security thing intend to jump on in and buy some products. Does that mean we do not have to FE on the first deal as I read somewhere that the buyer has to prove herself first?
Thanks for all the helpful posts
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very good info
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Does that mean we do not have to FE on the first deal as I read somewhere that the buyer has to prove herself first?
No, you NEVER have to FE. In fact, most of us would recommend that you NEVER FE -- even when it's just an option rather than a request. Staying in escrow throughout the entire order process is one of the best ways to protect yourself.
No matter what a vendor states on his/her profile, you are NEVER NEVER NEVER required by SR to FE. If you find a vendor who claims that, or asks that you do that, my best recommendation would be to find a different vendor!
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Thanks.
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"Also:
1. Never finalize early on the marketplace
2. Never send money or bitcoins to someone offering a good or service via PM
3. Don't fall for it if someone on the forum says that sending them bitcoins is necessary (unless you have placed an order with an official vendor over on the market site, there is no reason you would need to send anyone your bitcoins)
4. Always, always stay in escrow!
5. Be vigilant & help look out for the rest of the community!"
man i wish i knew this as soon as i joined. EntertheMarix got me with my first FE required $100 5-tab lsd purchase (350ug!!! as they advertised, lol) when i got that shit i took all five, had some tracers (which were annoying actually, zero mood elevation, zero mental, the only thing i had a bunch of was anxiety!
Stilll need a good PGP tutorial...
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Thanks for all this helpful info
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Stilll need a good PGP tutorial...
For mac:
http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=96799.msg686510#msg686510
For windows:
http://32yehzkk7jflf6r2.onion/gpg4usb/
:)
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:o fuck
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At first, getting bitcoins can seem like a daunting task--it isn't. Follow these instructions:
-- To start, open a throwaway account with Mt. Gox at https://mtgox.com/. No need to verify this account unless you're gonna be trading big money.
-- Go to "funding options/add funds"
-- Use the drop-down menu to select "BitInstant," which will give you instructions and your account number.
-- Go to BitInstant at https://www.bitinstant.com/
-- The reason you need a Mt. Gox account is that BitInstant doesn't sell bitcoins; you must trade for them at Mt. Gox. BitInstant allows you to immediately fund your Mt. Gox account so you can start trading.
-- Use the drop-down menu to select "cash deposit" and choose a local retailer, such as Wal-Mart or CVS.
-- Fill in your info and you will download a .pdf file with information for filling out a blue MoneyGram slip at Wal-Mart. Basically, you're "paying a bill" to ZipZap, Inc. and you will be entering their four-digit receive code and account number on the form. Use your real name, address, etc. on the MoneyGram. It doesn't matter, since everything will be laundered and untraceable by the time it gets to Silk Road. Use fake info for your Mt. Gox account, although I don't think it matters. Some people use fake names on the MoneyGram. I guess it doesn't make any difference, since they don't require ID. I used my real info because I was afraid of the transaction being flagged or cancelled.
-- Go to your local retailer, fill out the MoneyGram with the info provided from BitInstant, and pay for it with cash. There is a $3.95 fee.
-- You money will appear in your Mt. Gox account within 4 minutes--1 hour at the most (never takes that long).
-- Use the "trade" button to buy bitcoins.
-- Go to "funding options/withdraw" and use the drop-down menu to select "bitcoins" as your currency. Enter the amount and bitcoin address from Silk Road (find that on your SR account page--looks like this: 1GDGgeTfNrxdhmJokSP7EqVRZGXSFuSnfp)
-- If you have 5.67 bitcoins with Mt. Gox, transfer 5.66 to cover the transaction fee. Select the option for faster transfer (0.005 BTC).
-- It may take several hours for your bitcoins to show up, but they will. Once they are in your SR wallet, you're ready to order.
I hope this helps. This is the fastest, most reliable way that I've found to get bitcoins. If you bank with a major financial institution, you also have the option of transfering funds directly to BitInstant. While this doesn't involve leaving the house and taking out cash, I'm not sure if it's any slower than using a MoneyGram. One drawback to this method is that you have to provide BitInstant with your banking username and password (scary!) BitInstant is reputable, but that is just information that I don't want to release.
Let me know if you have questions or problems. I discovered Silk Road less than two weeks ago and spent an evening teaching myself all about Tor browsers, bitcoins, PGP, and everything else. It takes some doing, but it is worth it. Read the feedback, forums, encrypt your address, and don't FE. (Download Portable PGP at http://ppgp.sourceforge.net/, which has a very user-friendly interface.) While address encryption is not strictly necessary, it adds an extra layer of security to your purchase. I've had three flawless transactions and I couldn't be happier.
Thank you for posting this, I am having a problem with my Mt. Gox account - they don't recognize my password moments after I have registered with them. Have you found another site that works like Mt. Gox?
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Help me! My bitcoins never arrived! I had 7.5 bitcoins transfered to me. I saw the documentation from the transaction and i have 4 earlier succesfull transactions with the guy. It should have arrived 2 days ago. What do i do?
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At first, getting bitcoins can seem like a daunting task--it isn't. Follow these instructions:
-- To start, open a throwaway account with Mt. Gox at https://mtgox.com/. No need to verify this account unless you're gonna be trading big money.
-- Go to "funding options/add funds"
-- Use the drop-down menu to select "BitInstant," which will give you instructions and your account number.
-- Go to BitInstant at https://www.bitinstant.com/
-- The reason you need a Mt. Gox account is that BitInstant doesn't sell bitcoins; you must trade for them at Mt. Gox. BitInstant allows you to immediately fund your Mt. Gox account so you can start trading.
-- Use the drop-down menu to select "cash deposit" and choose a local retailer, such as Wal-Mart or CVS.
-- Fill in your info and you will download a .pdf file with information for filling out a blue MoneyGram slip at Wal-Mart. Basically, you're "paying a bill" to ZipZap, Inc. and you will be entering their four-digit receive code and account number on the form. Use your real name, address, etc. on the MoneyGram. It doesn't matter, since everything will be laundered and untraceable by the time it gets to Silk Road. Use fake info for your Mt. Gox account, although I don't think it matters. Some people use fake names on the MoneyGram. I guess it doesn't make any difference, since they don't require ID. I used my real info because I was afraid of the transaction being flagged or cancelled.
-- Go to your local retailer, fill out the MoneyGram with the info provided from BitInstant, and pay for it with cash. There is a $3.95 fee.
-- You money will appear in your Mt. Gox account within 4 minutes--1 hour at the most (never takes that long).
-- Use the "trade" button to buy bitcoins.
-- Go to "funding options/withdraw" and use the drop-down menu to select "bitcoins" as your currency. Enter the amount and bitcoin address from Silk Road (find that on your SR account page--looks like this: 1GDGgeTfNrxdhmJokSP7EqVRZGXSFuSnfp)
-- If you have 5.67 bitcoins with Mt. Gox, transfer 5.66 to cover the transaction fee. Select the option for faster transfer (0.005 BTC).
-- It may take several hours for your bitcoins to show up, but they will. Once they are in your SR wallet, you're ready to order.
I hope this helps. This is the fastest, most reliable way that I've found to get bitcoins. If you bank with a major financial institution, you also have the option of transfering funds directly to BitInstant. While this doesn't involve leaving the house and taking out cash, I'm not sure if it's any slower than using a MoneyGram. One drawback to this method is that you have to provide BitInstant with your banking username and password (scary!) BitInstant is reputable, but that is just information that I don't want to release.
Let me know if you have questions or problems. I discovered Silk Road less than two weeks ago and spent an evening teaching myself all about Tor browsers, bitcoins, PGP, and everything else. It takes some doing, but it is worth it. Read the feedback, forums, encrypt your address, and don't FE. (Download Portable PGP at http://ppgp.sourceforge.net/, which has a very user-friendly interface.) While address encryption is not strictly necessary, it adds an extra layer of security to your purchase. I've had three flawless transactions and I couldn't be happier.
Thank you for posting this, I am having a problem with my Mt. Gox account - they don't recognize my password moments after I have registered with them. Have you found another site that works like Mt. Gox?
I'm not sure why Mt. Gox isn't working for you--I have never had a problem. Have you tried registering another account under a different username & password? I have two accounts with them and they both work. For alternative exchanges, go to https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Trade#Currency_exchanges
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Help me! My bitcoins never arrived! I had 7.5 bitcoins transfered to me. I saw the documentation from the transaction and i have 4 earlier succesfull transactions with the guy. It should have arrived 2 days ago. What do i do?
Who is this "guy" who you bought the bitcoins from? In order to not be ripped off, it's always a good idea to only trade with a reputable exchange such as Mt. Gox, which can be found at https://mtgox.com/
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Help me! My bitcoins never arrived! I had 7.5 bitcoins transfered to me. I saw the documentation from the transaction and i have 4 earlier succesfull transactions with the guy. It should have arrived 2 days ago. What do i do?
do you mean you traded someone on SR for them or?
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It got sorted out! Silk Road credited my account and apoligized for the delay. Sweet relief!!
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over 2200 usd through Bitstamp.net, always everything went well and never had any problems. 8)
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I just bought my bitcoins from Blue Sky Traders and want to say it went as smooth as silk!! Excellent response to my email, polite, and very fast !(less than 1hr to my account). won't use any other vendor. Thanks BST talk to you soon.
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What sucks more Getting SCAMMED ONLINE or GETTING SCAMMED IN THE REAL WORLD
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Noob Question: If you don't FE I don't understand how that stops you from getting scammed, all the vendor would have to do is wait until the time limit runs out, and even if they don't i'm pretty sure the only options are like request a refund or request longer wait time? it's your word against theirs, thanks in advance for your answers.
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I don't know if this qualifies as a scam, but a vendor asked me for $5 in bitcoin (for added shipping) and said that was .5BTC. In case anyone hasn't noticed, the price of bitcoin has gone way up lately and at least one vendor doesn't seem to have noticed. I doubt many vendors are dropping prices to reflect the increased value of bitcoin... but buyers should be aware of what a bitcoin is worth. Here's a site that does the math for you...
http://preev.com/
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Sorry for the dumb question but where's a good place to get bitcoins? I just wanna be safe and get some advice :-\
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So ive been doing a good amount of reading and i would like to know peoples suggestions on the easiest way to get bitcoins. I ask because I dont want to have to install another 400 programs into my laptop. What websites offer the shortest steps or most obvious/easy way to get bitcoins? Thank you.
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So ive been doing a good amount of reading and i would like to know peoples suggestions on the easiest way to get bitcoins. I ask because I dont want to have to install another 400 programs into my laptop. What websites offer the shortest steps or most obvious/easy way to get bitcoins? Thank you.
I posted a step-by-step guide to getting bitcoins on page 5 of this thread.
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always double check the web address is secure https and the right words so you dont end up on a phishing site.
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FE should be banned
thank you and good night
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Thank you drjaycsmith and UK Stealth!
ivirbond007, I agree, i found a seller who has exactly what im lookiing for, hes the only one who has it, but i have to FE first... ugh not cool...
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thanks for the info, I am going sick loking after this bitcoins...
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Hi everyone..... So I made an account with blockchain.info because mt.gox just didnt work out for me.
Once I have bitcoins in my blockchain account How do i get them into my silk road account? Do I do the transfer through silkroad or blockchain?? im soo confused!
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takes two minutes to use the search function and figure out how to buy bitcoins safely
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great instructions..thank you
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In terms of going thru SR members directly for BTC, from my lurking it appears that Blue Sky Traders and CaptainMal (can't find his name in a search now, may be misspelling or he is no longer active / switched names?) have been reliable.
For instance, there is an item open now: http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/item/e30e903d1a offering BTC for cash in the mail. One question I have is how does the seller not have a feedback score after their name at all despite all the feedback on the page? Is that indicative that all of the positive feedback is fake and they haven't actually had any successful trades?
TL;DR version: I want to find a balance between low-fee and convenience for potentially large, frequent cash transfers to BTC. If I want to move $1k cash to BTC now and then do so semi-regularly going forward, what's the best way to get this done yesterday? Bitinstant? Bitcopia? Direct on SR?
I advise using btcquick.com. They are relatively new, but have good feedback on bitcointalks. I have done transactions with them multiple times, with no issues at all. You are protected from fraud because they use Google Wallet for fund transfers...Google Wallet never gives out your CC info or anything else. They merely send the vendor a one-time-use CC number for the value of the transaction, and they get the funds from that. Also, Google Wallet provides a free fraud-check/anti-fraud program that works so efficiently, that I have had my account frozen a couple times due to using TOR during transactions, and lacking a SOCKS5 proxy to place my IP in the same region as my Billing Address for my CC. This method and vendor allows for fast (usually no longer than an hour at the extremity of wait time) and efficient BTC purchase for funding your account. They sell Private Keys and Mt. Gox Redeemable Codes. They do not hold insanely large amounts of BTC in stock, usually only about 50 or 60 BTC at a time from what I can tell, but they have a contact number via Google Voice that transfers to the owner's cell phone, and they tend to be on top of all Customer Service, whether it be via phone, or email. They make you buy a Bronze Membership prior to being able to order BTC (they use Google Wallet for this transaction as well) and for every BTC you buy, you get a Reward Point. When you reach 25 Reward Points, they upgrade your membership to a Silver level, and BTC become cheaper to order. They work you with Reward Points all the way up to Gold (if I recall correctly, they may even have a Platinum membership) and BTC are near the market Low as defined by Mt. Gox live exchange rates as far as I can tell. I have yet to get to a Gold/Platinum membership, but this seems to be the case. The only weird thing, is from time to time, there will be a Handling Fee when the transaction goes through (only is approximately $1), but not always. I am unsure of why this is a sometimes thing, and not just one way or the other, but either way, they provide great Customer Service, and user friendly services. The Private Key or Mt. Gox code is sent via email to your email you used to register and become a member, and you download a separate.pdf for each BTC you purchase within it. You also can download the .pdf from your account on the website in the Order History heading, after you click to view the transaction you just made. I highly recommend btcquick.com to any and everyone. They saved me the headache that comes with Mt. Gox funding, Virwox, and virtually any other exchange of any type.
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I used www.bitcopia.com today to buy some BTC. I walked into Wells Fargo, filled out a deposit slip with their account info on it, handed the cash to the teller and the coins were in my wallet before I got home.
Quick as hell, no bullshit third parties to deal with or random extra fees. Highly recommend them and I will definitely be a repeat customer.
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I can also vouch for bitcopia. Although the teller was nosy and I had to bullshit up a semi-believable story. Service itself is fast and fine.
Another good idea which just happened to me is it's fine to simply use SR address for receiving address. Don't bother with online wallets because it's too easy to get phished. Remember, bitcoins are not illegal. Nor is putting bitcoins into SR! You can buy legal stuff on SR!
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Anyone using bitcoin.de?
Seems to be well laid and has quite a user database.
Any opinions?
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Thanks for the headsup
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Thanks for the advice! ;)
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Glad im reading this thread,,
Just to reiterate DO NOT FE early in almost any circumstance. I recently FE'd on a 60 dollar order from TabMonster and now he's gone rogue. Learn from my mistake (or at least check the forums).
Ha, same from this dumb newb. Same vendor, same price, same product I'm sure. Knew the risks and did it anyway cause of his good feedback and posts on this forum of people reviewing his product. My bad. Not going to make that mistake again.
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I know where mandor is coming from with looking for a seller that dosnt require FE. There's a lot of sellers that require it and won't ship to buyers with less then 5 transactions. Someone even has it on his sig that he always requires FE.
"Like a true Nature's child...
Quote from: tony76 on April 17, 2012, 08:29 am
Terms: As with all my sales, FE is required."
Didn't know if he was serious or not. Nice of you Scout to put this warning up on a stickie. If someone is not an authorized vendor, then no you would not want to deal with them through pm.
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Typhon, this isnt a spam thread. Its a sticky, which is even worse for putting it in here. Do not do this as it now either has to be deleted or remain here and clog up the sticky.
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Thanks for the heads up!
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Bitcoin spammers runnin' rampant!
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fyi: dont ever trust some one on another site "claiming" to be a legitimate vendor from SR unless they can use that sellers pgp key to communicate with you.
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Noob Question: If you don't FE I don't understand how that stops you from getting scammed, all the vendor would have to do is wait until the time limit runs out, and even if they don't i'm pretty sure the only options are like request a refund or request longer wait time? it's your word against theirs, thanks in advance for your answers.
Could someone please answer this?
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At least if you haven't FEd Silk Road can get your money back. If you haven't received the product and the seller can't prove he sent it then I would assume you will get your money back.
I know people will probably jump on my back for this but I recently did FE for an international order with a seller with outstanding feedback because he was the only person offering worldwide shipping for what I wanted. Maybe I'm an idiot but his communication has been good even after I did the deal so we'll see. If it doesn't work out I'll post here.
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There are lots of really creative scams for Bitcoin. One might think they'd make some cash if they dedicated their efforts at legitimate, if illegal business.
I remember one person who even had a bounty on them because they were responsible for 90% of the scams because everytime one would get shut down another would pop up and more people would fall for it... honestly who falls for mt.gix instead of mt.gox
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thanks for the info.
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Sellers aren't the only scammers
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Of course not, but generally speaking there is more in it for them.
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signed up and decided to post in the hopes that maybe ill get some reassurance but im pretty confident i got snagged. In any case maybe my experience will serve as a lesson for others f it holds true. Anyway i tried to sign up for the SR but got a error saying that new registration is closed (btw this was like a few months ago) so im like ok whatever and move on. At the moment i cant recall how i came across the link but while using tor i gained access to the SR (i can post the link if you guys want but im not sure if thats allowed). I had done some web research on experiences using the road some with pictures and what not so i was convinced it was it. It had the exact same login page the only difference being that there was no pin to enter which i assumed was because they are allowing new members since i was able to sign up. I surfed the site and it had all the pages all the products and sections and looked pretty legit with the camel dude and all. anyway i went weeks of trying to figure out how to use bit coin was finally able to purchase coins and yesterday i sent .50 as a test to the account at this "SR". after a few hours of nervous waiting it showed up in my SR account and i was excited that i was finally going to get to purchase something. I sort out my checkout and see how much i need so i send over another 1.50 and shut down for the night. today i check my bitcoin site and see that the money was successfully deposited and cant wait to get home to make my purchase. i get home and try and log in and get PROBLEM LOADING error. Im like its prolly just jacked up with people cause of the weekend. Then i hop on HW and try clicking the link for the SR there and then im taken to that original page that had the pin and tells me new registration is off. I precede to freak. I had done a test transfer for .50 to see if it was legit and when it showed up i was so sure. they even linked me to these forums. I see that a lot of people were saying the site was down earlier so im trying to reassure myself thats the case but the fact that there is a login page that requests a pin thats what make me think i got scammed. so i know this is unorthodox but which is the correct page? Are they taking new registration? are there two links to the same SR? Is this common in the SR? is there a way to tell im always on the right SR and is there a way to register? Im not really too pissed cause it was only 2 BTC so a least it wasnt too much but hell it was still 2 BTC!! i hope you guys can help and i apologize for my ignorance. Clearly being a veteran on the field holds no barring in cyber space...
UPDATE:
While browsing these forums i discovered the use new identity option & reload and i was able to log in to the page with my 2btc still there! im desperately trying to get them out of there now. but its taking forever to load. Which the real SR with the pin or without the pin??
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This is the one and ONLY legitimate URL for SR:
http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/
DO NOT access SR via any link you find on the Hidden Wiki or wherever else.
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THANK YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! that was the link omg i got scared there! thanks for the advice i clearly f'ed up there.
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Thanks for the help
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Ive been here for a long time. Just scammed for the first time! How? Glad you asked. Over a year ago I used a MP -> BTC vendor with a great reputation. With all the issues Ive been having with other ways of getting BTC's I tried the old vendor, but could only find the vendor if it had a space in the name. I didn't think anything of it. But I'm pretty sure I've lost my money. Of course even if it was the same vendor, there's never any guarantee...
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thanks for the heads up
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Thanx for info! This is all new to me hence the newbie section but i gotta say, im in love!!
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I gotta say all this stuff about not finalizing early is bullshit, I always finalize early and it's worked out great. Just check feedback, if it's high enough it's worth the risk.
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I gotta say all this stuff about not finalizing early is bullshit, I always finalize early and it's worked out great. Just check feedback, if it's high enough it's worth the risk.
Lol. I'm glad it has worked out well for you thus far, but, no, what you have stated is uniformly UNTRUE. There is no "high enough" feedback score to guarantee that finalizing early is "safe" in any way.
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I gotta say all this stuff about not finalizing early is bullshit, I always finalize early and it's worked out great. Just check feedback, if it's high enough it's worth the risk.
Lol. I'm glad it has worked out well for you thus far, but, no, what you have stated is uniformly UNTRUE. There is no "high enough" feedback score to guarantee that finalizing early is "safe" in any way.
Indeed. There have been many instances of established, highly-trusted vendors who decide to suddenly retire--and their exit strategy has included convincing loyal customers to FE, offering a vague-yet-plausible excuse, and then disappearing with everyone's money. While some vendors having honor and integrity would never do this, there are others who would think nothing of it. Drug dealers and drug users are not known for their moral compasses--and while that might be an unfair stereotype, at least when applied to some--I can't help but think of something that my mother told me when I was a teenager. At the time, my friends and I were focused solely on drugs; because of our youth and relative innocence, this was limited to marijuana, acid, and alcohol; and even though we had never experimented with the "hard stuff," there were a few of my buddies who behaved like junkies. They thought nothing of lying to us, cheating us, burglarizing our homes ... basically doing anything that benefited themselves, regardless of whether it was a stranger or their best friend who suffered as a result. What my mother said was simple enough and had enough truth to it that it's something I've never forgotten, even years later; and while the words were not her own, the message was/is clear.
She said, "There is no honor among thieves."
The escrow system exists for a reason--and the only way to benefit from it is to use it. By refusing to FE, we discourage vendors from requesting it; and by only doing business with vendors who respect and abide by the escrow system, we reward honesty and encourage good business practices. Even as a newcomer to Silk Road, there is no need to FE. When considering who to purchase my first order from, I looked at a couple of vendors whose requirements would have required me to not only FE, but jump through other hoops, the details of which I've since forgotten. I shined them on and thirty seconds later found a couple of true pros to deal with. Those other vendors could have made a sale, but instead they drove me away and I'll never be back. There are top vendors for a reason, but even they might decide to rip you off eventually. No one on SR is above suspicion. Too many people forget that this is an anonymous marketplace, the reason being that we're all criminals, with a few cops mixed in just to keep things interesting. If you have a favorite vendor and you decide to FE as a way of rewarding excellent service, fine; however, being asked to FE should send you running, regardless of stats. When you have options--and we almost always do--don't be afraid to use them.
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just got to use your common sense, I've only made a few transactions but i've purposefully avoided vendors who want you to FE, not worth the risk in my opinion
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OMFG HE NEEDS A STAR lul
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Hi all,
;D 8) ;D
As a total noob to TOR and these forums, I guess I have been lucky not to have been scammed. Normally, I will only FE once goods received and sampled. But mindful of how this may cause difficulties to some with cash flow probs and who request me to FE, then I have. My logic being that trust has to be earned and normally my feedback will reflect this. I also think that if anyone rips me off a few BC, then ultimately they will be the loser as the old saying 'once bitten, twice shy' is certainly relevant.
Anyway just by the very nature of what we are all doing here, inevitably means there will be lowlife scumbags lurking around.
I think the Escrow system is a really fantastic way to ensure safety and trust can be built up. And the main thing reaslly is that the SR is 2nd to none. I remember scoring 30+ yeras ago and though the quality was, IMO, far superior than today at least SR is so simple in its anonymity and minus the customs means its virtually safe for the foreseeable future.
We all get our gear, safely and without the sleazy trappings of yesteryear.
My respect for SR grows day by day and as long as I harm no others then the solution and the streets remain free.
I probably sound like an old nearly 60yr old tart whose as naive as a pair of unlicked bollux... lol.
BTW... I think TopNotch is my fav, but thats for another board.
Cheers & regards to all. :)
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Im glad theres a thread for this!
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As you spend time here, you will likely come across bitcoin scams. In order to help you stay as safe as possible, we thought it would be best to make a thread listing the obvious bitcoin scams & scammer sites. Feel free to post any others you notice.
Do not send payments to any of the following sites under any circumstances!
SCAM SITES:
*** bitcointalks (bitcointalk.org is a legitimate forum, but "bitcointalks.com" is a scam)
*** virwex (virwox is/was an exchange, but "virwex" is a scam)
Also:
1. Never finalize early on the marketplace
2. Never send money or bitcoins to someone offering a good or service via PM
3. Don't fall for it if someone on the forum says that sending them bitcoins is necessary (unless you have placed an order with an official vendor over on the market site, there is no reason you would need to send anyone your bitcoins)
4. Always, always stay in escrow!
5. Be vigilant & help look out for the rest of the community!
** When a deal seems "too good to be true" - there's a high probability that it is a scam. Be very careful and always make sure that you research vendors/sites before giving them any of your hard-earned money!
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Scams r simple nothing for free
Unless indicated by buyer along with a purchase ]
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Good to see people looking out for others.
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What about the PIN locking scam. I forget my PIN and now my coins are trapped for over 3 years before I can get to a form to reset my PIN ? Bullshit.
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Ive been here for a long time. Just scammed for the first time! How? Glad you asked. Over a year ago I used a MP -> BTC vendor with a great reputation. With all the issues Ive been having with other ways of getting BTC's I tried the old vendor, but could only find the vendor if it had a space in the name. I didn't think anything of it. But I'm pretty sure I've lost my money. Of course even if it was the same vendor, there's never any guarantee...
Fuck scammers this site is for unity
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how can i get a vendor account on the market? i got some dank ass bc bud i want to sell, and killer prices on oxy's and xtc
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how can i get a vendor account on the market? i got some dank ass bc bud i want to sell, and killer prices on oxy's and xtc
When the server is back up go to your balance in the too of screen and click it in the right side will be links history reviews translations become a seller. Then you follow those directions.
However in mean time is love to try some BC buds an buy some. If not sooner then first transacrtion. Maybe interested in oxys depending on price.
Let me know brotha!
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thanks for the info
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A good thread. I have yet to purchase, but have been monitoring the site for a few months. I've noticed a few other trusted sellers go down in the same manner as Tony76, just not to the same degree. Always look on the profiles and threads for feedback from a vendor. You can still get anything listed by finding a vendor using escrow, you just might pay more. Watch out for "too good to be true" prices. The vendors I've been watching that offer these (w/o escrow), are usually the ones I notice going rogue. MedicinoMistress was one that I noticed this happening to. I can't confirm that they have fallen apart, but their rating fell considerably over a week, and they wouldn't reply when I confronted them with questions. Their feedback showed that customers were getting worried.
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Hey, Scout...is it possible for scamming vendors to provide their own feedback to boost their stats? I've noticed a few accusations along those lines.
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this shit is common sense i just want to post my review 4 services rendered 6 months on this shit now i cant post a review cuz im a "newbie"
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this shit is common sense i just want to post my review 4 services rendered 6 months on this shit now i cant post a review cuz im a "newbie"
That's why I'm posting while SR is down
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New members should read, read, read ALL the information in the forum before doing anything.Only a total fuckwit would charge into SR uninformed. getting drugs posted to your house is illegal, stupid mistakes put people in prison.
http://www.buzzfeed.com/tessastuart/how-the-pirate-bay-founders-got-caught
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There is risk with every move we make on here or anyplace. Why is shipping to your own address in your name such a bad idea?
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Hey, Scout...is it possible for scamming vendors to provide their own feedback to boost their stats? I've noticed a few accusations along those lines.
yes sellers can create multiple accounts and sell things to themselves leaving excellent feedback that way when someone makes a large purchase is easy to scam through the misleading feedbackalso when purchasing items click it after reading description click on users profile and read description on all items to make sure quality reviews have been left I am a buyer and trust me when I make a purchase I make it noticed that it was good or bad luckily all good so far
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awesome, thank you!!!
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Thank you, everyone, for all this info for us noobs!
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Hey Everyone, my first post!
Obviously I'm pretty new here. So I was so excited about this site that I did a couple of "mistakes" in my first time.
1)I didn't use PGP...at all, anywhere.
2) I wrote my real name and address on the Moneygram slip (at Walmart) to send money to my MtGox account.
I'm panicking a bit tbh. Especially that I just got in trouble today with the cops...for a totally different reason.
So, how risky is my position?
Is there a chance that the shit might hit the fan?
If so, what should I do?
Thanks!
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ALWAYS USE PGP. Encrypt your address every time you send it to a vendor for an order.
As for using your real name and address on the moneygram slip - you will be fine. It's not a problem. Buying bitcoins is 100% legal.
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Hi,
Im sorry I post here, but the newbie forums are currently beeing overrun by spammers:
My problem:
I registred to SR. I sent 9 BTC on my acc.
Now I cant log in.
Have I been scammed? Im pretty sure I have the right username / pass.
Is there a way how to reclaim my account?
Thank you!
I had the same thing happen to me when I first came on SR and it sure did feel like a scam, but I messaged customer support and they reset everything for me. It did take about a week though, but in the end everything was a o k.
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any vendor with small ticket items willing to work with me- no feedback- in order to get my stats up lemme know.. no i dont want 100 pills or a LB i simply wanna start small and stay in escrow until i get firmillar. i guess online or in the streets there are still dirtbags trying to fck someone over... any good info for me is appreciated
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hi i have a bit of a problem i need some help with. 2 weeks ago i joined sr under a different user name and made 2 successful transactions it was brilliant so i deposited $1000 onto my account and shortly after i couldn't login it just says login failed at the login screen. so i've stared a new account but im down 1000 any ideas anyone????
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ALWAYS USE PGP. Encrypt your address every time you send it to a vendor for an order.
As for using your real name and address on the moneygram slip - you will be fine. It's not a problem. Buying bitcoins is 100% legal.
Thanks for this reply, appreciate it! Also it makes me feel better! :)
As a general question, does it not seem suspicious to the "authorities" when someone buys bitcoins, you think?
It is legal and used in many applications, I'm sure...but probably around 90% of the bitcoins floating around are heading towards SR, I would think.
Also I want to ask if it is possible at all to use wrong info on Moneyram slip? Can't see why not, but I'm wondering if it's done?
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ALWAYS USE PGP. Encrypt your address every time you send it to a vendor for an order.
As for using your real name and address on the moneygram slip - you will be fine. It's not a problem. Buying bitcoins is 100% legal.
Thanks for this reply, appreciate it! Also it makes me feel better! :)
As a general question, does it not seem suspicious to the "authorities" when someone buys bitcoins, you think?
It is legal and used in many applications, I'm sure...but probably around 90% of the bitcoins floating around are heading towards SR, I would think.
Also I want to ask if it is possible at all to use wrong info on Moneyram slip? Can't see why not, but I'm wondering if it's done?
You should relax and not worry yourself. Because there are a number of security precautions in place to protect the entire community's anonymity, Silk Road exists and continues to thrive despite mainstream media coverage and scrutiny from just about every major law enforcement agency in the world. The system works as long as you remain vigilant and follow the rules, which are described in the Buyer's Guide. It is hard to imagine that the authorities won't eventually find a way to close SR down, but it is rather telling that they have been unable to do so thus far.
Consider the following:
-- Law enforcement is primarily concerned with shutting down SR at its source--and hopefully, arresting The Dread Pirate Roberts and his cohorts at the same time. Their main responsibility is to prevent the flow of contraband--and by cutting off the head, they kill the entire beast. Barring that, their second targets include vendors who are selling vast quantities of high-profile narcotics--the kind of shit that is regarded with fear & loathing by the general public. Less successful vendors might also be targeted, but probably only if they've been careless and made themselves vulnerable in some way. Finally, while average consumers are the lifeblood of SR--supply and demand, you know--they are considered by LE to be nothing more than a nuisance and too numerous to ever hope to combat effectively. Furthermore, LE knows that the old "big fish, little fish" gambit would be pointless if applied to a lowly SR member, since it is an anonymous market. No one involved--buyers, sellers, or the site's operators--knows the identity of anyone else. The only time that you submit personal information is when placing an order ... and we'll deal with that next.
-- The mailing information that you submit is encrypted by SR and intended to be viewed only by your chosen vendor. Since SR is law enforcement's primary target, and therefore constantly at risk, you use PGP to encrypt your info a second time. Now that your message is decipherable only by its recipient, if the SR servers are seized, LE will have nothing. You also have the option of using some sort of mail drop, adding a third layer of security. (Personally, I don't bother, preferring to have my orders shipped directly to my door.)
-- Since your vendor is the only person with your address at this point, he now becomes the weak link. If he is a professional, which will be obvious by reading his feedback and the forums, he ships your package as soon as the order is received. As long as he doesn't record your shipping info, the package's physical label is now the only record of who you are--and it's on its way to you, via the USPS. If for some reason the vendor DOES keep another copy of your information, it would be useless as evidence even in the unlikely event that he is busted. Of course, if he gets pinched on his way to the mailbox, clutching in his hand a big bag of dope with your name literally on it ... well ... then you have terrible luck. But I suppose that there's a good chance they wouldn't bother to prosecute you--and if they did, the right lawyer could get your case dismissed. Hiring a good attorney doesn't come cheap; however, having a hotshot legal wizard in your corner is a good idea, especially when you do things like order narcotics through the mail. Unfortunately, odds are that you're broke and you'll be stuck with the public defender. Shit. This wouldn't have happened if you hadn't spent all of your money on drugs.
-- Whenever possible, order from domestic vendors to avoid scrutiny by Customs and suspicious postal employees. Delivering a dozen packages from Amsterdam to your address in less than a month will make your mail carrier take notice, even if he IS a lazy bastard who never shows up before three o'clock. Domestic packages being handled by the USPS are practically invisible--and even if someone wanted to open one, they would need a warrant to do so. When choosing a vendor, look for someone who gets positive feedback regarding his stealth--that way, if your package is torn or is delivered to your neighbor by mistake (and the dummy opens it before reading the label), there won't be bags of dope spilling out all over the place. Some vendors do such a good job that even you might have a hard time finding it. When that happens, you'll momentarily wonder if you paid $150 for the decoy, an item worth about $3.99.
-- It can be assumed that you're dealing with someone legit--not LE, posing as a vendor--as long as they're not brand new to Silk Road. Since cops can't ship drugs to people through the mail, any established vendor is safe. Again, read the feedback and forums. Besides, the cost of going after a buyer, making an arrest, jailing him, prosecuting the case, eventually imprisoning him ... well ... the cost of all that is extraordinary when weighed against what there is to be gained. So no, you're not buying drugs from the DEA.
-- It's obvious by now that law enforcement doesn't have the time, money, resources, or inclination to target buyers on SR; therefore, they're not going to undertake the nearly-impossible task of tracing your bitcoins back to you, especially since you're talking about a digital currency that is virtually untraceable to begin with. Personally, I send a MoneyGram (real name, fake name ... who cares?) to BitInstant, who then funds a throwaway account at Mt. Gox (feel free to create a new one for every transaction, although it's unnecessary). After purchasing bitcoins anonymously on the open market, I send them to my SR wallet, which can also be changed for each transaction. (The logic behind this is that even if LE could link you to your SR account, there would be no way to tie all of the transactions together.) Some people also route their bitcoins through another anonymous e-wallet service before sending them along to SR, although I consider it unnecessary. It's worth noting that you should only transfer the necessary amount of bitcoins to your SR wallet when you are ready to make a purchase. Order immediately and don't store money with SR, because if the site is busted or suddenly disappears, so does all of the money you have in your account. The same thing goes for Mt. Gox, which has been targeted by hackers in the past.
I suppose that I could go on, but what would be the point? Silk Road is a multimillion-dollar operation that was carefully designed to protect its users and resist attacks from law enforcement. There are numerous precautions in place, from your Tor browser to the escrow system and right on down the line. I'm not going to swear that getting busted is impossible ... but I will venture to say that finding a cop waiting outside for you is only slightly more likely than walking to your car and having a piano fall on your head.
As long as you follow the rules, you can buy all sorts of illegal shit with utter confidence, unconcerned that while you shave and have your morning coffee, the postman is downstairs jamming your mailbox full of felonies ... but if you're not quite there yet--if you're still biting your nails and unable to sleep after placing an order--Silk Road has something for that too. Lots of things, really. I hear that Valium works wonders.
Or maybe it's all that speed you bought last week that's keeping you awake ... or it could just be that when it comes to waiting for a fix, you have about as much patience as a kid at Christmas time. Who knows when one is dealing with junkies--trying to predict or account for that crowd's behavior can drive a person bananas.
Goddamned drug addicts.
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hey people Im a little concerned that my noobish self has been scammed. i sent the bitcoins to this adress but it still hasnt shown on my account yet, what do you reckon?
Warning: Read this before making a deposit to your account
Your PIN is required to make purchases, withdraw funds from your account, and make important changes to your account. If you forget your PIN, or give it away to a phishing site impersonating Silk Road, any funds you deposit to your account will be irretreivable.
Before depositing any funds, you should change your PIN and password on your SETTINGS page. If you are unable to change them because you've already forgotten them, you must create a new account and try again.
Once you are ready, send your deposit to this address:
18uMA5nBLCQvtdMtsjWa4AGQpfzJbxTHUt
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Sure thing, how much would you like deposited into that acct?? lol
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1 million bitcoins!! jk. i was actually seriously thinking id been scammed somehow through my own noobishness just took a couple of hours to go through is all.
hurrah. made my first orders now,
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I wish i came here first, bitcointalks.com got me. but paypal gave the money back
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"Captain Mal" is a scammer making money off of the old captain mal's reputation
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"Captain Mal" is a scammer making money off of the old captain mal's reputation
Hopefully this has been taken care of -- when we saw the imposter posting a few weeks back, we investigated, deleted the account, and then we re-registered the username so that the imposter wouldn't be able to use "CaptainMal" or "Captain Mal" or "Captain_Mal" ... lol. Trying to cover all the bases! Shouldn't be a problem anymore.
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NEVER FE !!!!
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Im never fe!
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mememe
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I fucking got scammed due to urgency to get BTC's.
Some dick head putting SR to shame on Ebay. NEVER buy BTC's from unknown vendors.
Shame he doesn't believe in HEXING! Shame a bus or large object will be making an impact soon.
Also, don't ever do deals outside of escrow. I've learned my lesson which has cost me dearly.
Stick to the SR guidelines and protocol.
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Very informative! Thanks :)
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sex, but that's also without drugs
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weed
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Thanks for all the information posted on here. I haven't had any trouble with the Bitcoin part of this as of yet, but it's the part that makes me the most nervous . . . just waiting for the bitcoins to pop up in the account during the transition.
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anyone use btc-e.com? im having some trouble. i paid a few hours ago and funds still havent shown up
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Has anyone used the moneygram to zipzap to bitinstant to MtGox to SR today and had any problems?? NEED ADVICE!!!
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Thanks for the advice, I use Mt. Gox and I would never finalize early for any reason.
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mt gox intersango, local bitcoins
there are different options
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Has anyone used the moneygram to zipzap to bitinstant to MtGox to SR today and had any problems?? NEED ADVICE!!!
A follow up on this. Last night every thing followed the chain to the end with less than 2 hours time..Just if you have to get it done. This is working well. Thanks
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First of all-hello! Yes I am very brand new-still wearin my SR diapers lol. Great to be here. I want to thank you for clearing up that FE thing-I had no idea what that was all about either-there is so much to learn here and WOW holy shit about that scam with Tony! I don't know what to say-I don't hope he was killed but at same time I really hope he did not sincerely scam all those people out of that money-but you all know how some people in this world can really be and it's a shame. Thank you for the warnings and great advice.
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I choose not to believe in scams
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Thanks for the heads up.
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just read vendor profile and feeds carefully before buying
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fuck the scammers
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Just read the first couple of pages of this and am kind of kicking myself right now, but whatever. Live and learn, and so on.
Either way, is there a list of vendors that have used the FE scam on multiple buyers? I'm only on page 4 of this thread, so forgive me if it is in the later pages. At any rate, I just made my first purchases from a few different vendors on SR. Two out of the four said that they required new buyers to 'FE.' Of course, I went ahead and did it (like a dumb ass, I trusted in the fact that they both had perfect ratings. Once I realized that finalizing and order means you can never go back and edit your comments, well, I realized that they could be pulling the FE scam on multiple new users, and still be getting positive feedback.)
Where was I? Oh yeah, so I don't know for sure that I have been scammed, but neither of the vendors has responded to my recent messages, so I am preparing myself for that fact that I have indeed been scammed. Since I am unable to go back and change my feedback for the vendor, how else will I be able to expose them for the fucking pricks that they are?
Thanks and such.
BL
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As you spend time here, you will likely come across bitcoin scams. In order to help you stay as safe as possible, we thought it would be best to make a thread listing the obvious bitcoin scams & scammer sites. Feel free to post any others you notice.
Do not send payments to any of the following sites under any circumstances!
SCAM SITES:
*** bitcointalks (bitcointalk.org is a legitimate forum, but "bitcointalks.com" is a scam)
*** virwex (virwox is/was an exchange, but "virwex" is a scam)
Also:
1. Never finalize early on the marketplace
2. Never send money or bitcoins to someone offering a good or service via PM
3. Don't fall for it if someone on the forum says that sending them bitcoins is necessary (unless you have placed an order with an official vendor over on the market site, there is no reason you would need to send anyone your bitcoins)
4. Always, always stay in escrow!
5. Be vigilant & help look out for the rest of the community!
** When a deal seems "too good to be true" - there's a high probability that it is a scam. Be very careful and always make sure that you research vendors/sites before giving them any of your hard-earned money!
Thanks for the Heads UP. I'm just learning about bitcoin. A fellow member recommended Blue Sky Traders as a way to acquire BTC, What's your take? I'm lookin' for the easiest safest way. Also, your warning advises to Never finalize early on the marketplace. For a member with no buying history, is it customary for a vendor to require FE? Should I FE on my first order if no vendors will allow escrow?
Any feedback, much appreciated
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Just read the first couple of pages of this and am kind of kicking myself right now, but whatever. Live and learn, and so on.
Either way, is there a list of vendors that have used the FE scam on multiple buyers? I'm only on page 4 of this thread, so forgive me if it is in the later pages. At any rate, I just made my first purchases from a few different vendors on SR. Two out of the four said that they required new buyers to 'FE.' Of course, I went ahead and did it (like a dumb ass, I trusted in the fact that they both had perfect ratings. Once I realized that finalizing and order means you can never go back and edit your comments, well, I realized that they could be pulling the FE scam on multiple new users, and still be getting positive feedback.)
Where was I? Oh yeah, so I don't know for sure that I have been scammed, but neither of the vendors has responded to my recent messages, so I am preparing myself for that fact that I have indeed been scammed. Since I am unable to go back and change my feedback for the vendor, how else will I be able to expose them for the fucking pricks that they are?
Thanks and such.
BL
research the vendors in the rumor mill. lots of reputable vendors require fe for newb buyers. they may have fine reviews and you can rest at ease. hopefully you didnt order a boatload with money you cant afford to lose. thats like, common sense.
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localbitcoins.com is indeed great, once you have established contact its the easiest way
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Thanks for the heads up
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Thanks for the heads up
Naow Look whot yoo've Dun! Mum's Upset!
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thanks
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Thanks!
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thank you for the advice
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Thanks for the heads up!
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ok
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Thanks for this information :)
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bitcointalks scamed me becarful dont buy from them
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thanks for the heads up we all need to look out for each other
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whats a good place to get bit coins without a bank account? Since the bitinstant email is down I dont know how to obtain coin. My money is always tied up in silver or just plain cash. How can I purchase bitcoins with straight money order.
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This is awesome. This matches exactly what I've researched.
I've heard of several people that don't take the crypto seriously as well. I'm not sure about the rest of you, but I'll be damned if I leave a cybertrail. TAILS is amazing, I'm never without my key.
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My main concern other then having stuff shipped to my home address and trying to find a po box that will take fake info, is the FE that is required for newbie. Should we just look around until we find someone that will do escrow if they ask us to FE? or are we sorta required to take the change before anyone will trust us?
HELL NO! You are NEVER truly required to FE! Some vendors will put that on their profiles, but it is actually against the rules to REQUIRE early finalizing.
Yes, you should always look around until you find a vendor who lets you stay in escrow. Never, never, NEVER finalize early!
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bitcointalk is a good place
you just need to know the good ones
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I got scammed £350 the other day on localbitcoins.com. usualy a safe site but i done instant bank transfer without using escrow and trader cancelled deal after funding and ran with my money. Thieving scum bag. All my own fault as i was being impatient and took a chance. If using that site and bank transfer stick to escrow and stick with the guys you know and have traded with before. If possible meet in person, leads to good contact building.
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q
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I used Bitfloor.com recently with excellent success. Low fees, quick service (BTCs in account before I got home). Only uses Bank of America though.
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Bitcopia.com.
Works like a charm.
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This guy is a reliable person for buying BTC. I´ve bought from him twice, smooth transactions!
https://www.bitcoinary.com/en/users/480/profile
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thank you for the heads up. as a new person to tor and to SR as a whole im glad there are helpful posts like these to keep my hard earned cash out of scammers' hands.
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good info
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fuck sr for making me spam
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Bitfloor worked for me, I was kind of leery of making the drop at a bank...but it all went smoothly and I can't see anyone coming after me about a couple of hundred dollars...I wasn't asked for an ID and everything happened within an hour. Will read up and maybe try some Ninja moves next time....lol
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Thanks for the information. What does stay in escrow mean? And does it apply to Mac users? If not, what's a Mac user's equivalent? Thanks.
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In Escrow means there's a hold on it, when you make a purchase SR holds the funds until you finalize usually after you get you order and are satisfied. And someone correct me if I'm wrong but Bitfloor and SR act identically on a PC or a MAC,
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very useful info indeed. So when a vendor says on his page "orders less than 1000 $ must FE " what happens if i buy something for 100$ and not FE? i get my order canceled?? what if its about top vendor?
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Does anybody know if bitinstant is still down?
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Does anybody know if bitinstant is still down?
It was as of yesterday, but I heard they changed their policy and its no longer a good choice for anonymity, I couldn't find the post but a more experienced user was warning people off of it. I would definitely do some research before using them when they do come back if you have a Bank of America near you Bitfloor can't be beat in my book....apparently they got robbed last year but they have made a good comeback and work fine for my small transactions.
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Thanks for tips
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okay thanks
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Good info!
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fyi--the company bitswing.com --you may have seen their tons of posting in the newbie area today yesterday--is a scam per bitcointalk.org--type name bitswing.com in search to read.
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just want to share this cuz it is really cool, and it works really good!
www.bitcoinity.org/markets
it is a real time graph of bitcoin prices. if you're like me & will only be making small buys & keeping a small amount of bitcoin handy - you might as well try to buy your BC at the fairest price. for instance: just 2 days ago, on wednesday, around midnight, for about an hour, prices dropped and you could buy BC for $36 +/-. yeah, not as good as $20, but way better than $45, and today's price is pretty steady at $43.50
as for me, i missed it cuz i didn't find this site til thursday. i'm still getting organized & i expect i need to visit the PGP club soon...
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Thanks so much for posting this!!! The problem I am having being new here is that some vendors will not sell to you unless you have so many transactions under your belt. So you are left with vendors that will sell to you but demand that you finalize early. I just ordered for the first time and it looks like I was ripped off from a vendor that has good reviews but I noticed they all said what I wrote. Good communication but asked to FE early, we will see. Now that it has been over two weeks I have no way to go back in an change my feedback as I have no idea how. If this vendor makes no effort to resolve this matter I will take to the forum and blast his/her name.
This site only works if we work like a community and watch out for each other.
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Now that it has been over two weeks I have no way to go back in an change my feedback as I have no idea how.
I don't know if there's a time limit or not, but to edit feedback, go to Account >> View Feedback >> Edit
If this vendor makes no effort to resolve this matter I will take to the forum and blast his/her name.
What was the item and/or who was the vendor?
You can take to the forum, but since it's plastered everywhere never to FE, you probably won't get much of a result. You may just have to chalk it up as a loss and a learning experience.
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bizzz,
thank you for the story...being new and wanting this to work i am trying to soak in all i can...lessons learned
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Thanks for all the good advise and suggestions in this thread, now I'm better aware and no what to look out for and avoid. ;D
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Which the real SR with the pin or without the pin??
without
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yup good info
stay in escro !!!! It is there for a reason!!!!!!!
If a vendor is asking for a newbie to FE go to another one and ask if they will take you on as a new client .I did this and it worked.I made a few small purchases built up my rep and now i get free stuff occassionally .
But really for the new guys if a vendor needs you to FE make sure its something you can loose. Some do ask for international reasons (coming through customs) but others say they have money tied up .I dont like that .
If they dont have money then they are not doing their job correctly ..I dont see alot of good deals on SR. We are paying high prices for the safety and quality so vendors should have a good amount of $ coming in.
People do forget to F so dont forget to finalize when you get your package.(it happens alot) Guys go get high first then forget about the finalizing .I always do it first then ill put a review here..
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Good advuce!
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boop
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Has bitinstant got there shit together?
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Will Bitcoins run out? The two places I buy from seem to be sold out of coins.
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As you spend time here, you will likely come across bitcoin scams. In order to help you stay as safe as possible, we thought it would be best to make a thread listing the obvious bitcoin scams & scammer sites. Feel free to post any others you notice.
Do not send payments to any of the following sites under any circumstances!
SCAM SITES:
*** bitcointalks (bitcointalk.org is a legitimate forum, but "bitcointalks.com" is a scam)
*** virwex (virwox is/was an exchange, but "virwex" is a scam)
Also:
1. Never finalize early on the marketplace
2. Never send money or bitcoins to someone offering a good or service via PM
3. Don't fall for it if someone on the forum says that sending them bitcoins is necessary (unless you have placed an order with an official vendor over on the market site, there is no reason you would need to send anyone your bitcoins)
4. Always, always stay in escrow!
5. Be vigilant & help look out for the rest of the community!
** When a deal seems "too good to be true" - there's a high probability that it is a scam. Be very careful and always make sure that you research vendors/sites before giving them any of your hard-earned money!
Wise words. Luckily I learned everything being cautious and have yet to be scammed. YET is the key word.
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the only day I lost coins was when I left the coins by accident to autofinalise....
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Yep... got scammed the first 5 minutes I bought Bitcoins...sigh.
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I got an excellent bit coin for GreenDot card person,never any probs,xcept it may take a few days
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Thanks for the info.
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Newbie here....and about the Bitcoin thing, its driving me nuts. I don't know whether to upgrade my PC and try mining my own. I joined about three pools and NADA. Since their value is up right now....I can see why there would be lots of scams. I almost got caught up in one :( So this is my official first post, and I'm open to any suggestions at all, but I have heard mixed reviews on mining my own and that joining a pool is a really good idea.The geek in me wants to save money and mine my own. Even if it doesn't work, I'd have a kick ass PC. Any directions or recipes on doing this would be great. I have a few bits and pieces of coins all over, but not enough to send to my wallet.... well, at least I can't scam myself, but on a side note, I think it would be easy for a pool to scam you as well.
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is there a list anywhere of the trusted vendors that we can look to ?
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Yep... got scammed the first 5 minutes I bought Bitcoins...sigh.
YES
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just got a PM from anakey from the Peruvian jungle. i would have suspect that if i had not received the warning from Scout i would have responded
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Thanks for the warning
GOOD SELLER
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I love a community that looks out for eachother. I'll also be on the look out.
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Thanks for this I too learned the hard way.
It wasnt 250K but it was enough to make stay in escrow regardless.
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I will never understand why someone would FE. Sellers that require this just seem like outright scams.
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Brand newbie here. Would appreciate help and an answer. Can I surmise that 'bitcoin.org' is still the most reliable website for the purchase of bitcoins?
Many thanks ...
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Thank you kind sir.
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There is no reason to ever have to buy bitcoins from anyone advertising on the forums as they are all scams and I personally would never purchase bitcoins from one of the vendors on silkroad if I ever needed to purchase some for whatever reason there are MANY legit exchanges that make transactions as anonymous as you can get.
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There is no reason to ever have to buy bitcoins from anyone advertising on the forums as they are all scams and I personally would never purchase bitcoins from one of the vendors on silkroad if I ever needed to purchase some for whatever reason there are MANY legit exchanges that make transactions as anonymous as you can get.
Exactly why buy from a person when you can from trusted companies. Blockchain.info for Wallet & bitinstant transfers are just simple and easy! Yes there is a small percentage fee but its worth actually receiving your purchase. Anyone agree or have any comments?
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the best way to avoid getting scammed is be an educated buyer - really the foundation of all market value systems.
the following site is the best graph i have found that tracks current bitcoin prices.
www.bitcoinity.org/markets
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What about meeting people in person and buying Bitcoins? Anyone with experience with that?
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I just deposited to 'Instawallet'... No problem. I have now tried to transfer that money to SR as per address given in account settings. Money has gone from Instawallet however nothing in my SR account??? How long does an average transaction take to process from Bitcoin wallet to SRr account?? Should I be worried?? Thanks in advance
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I just deposited to 'Instawallet'... No problem. I have now tried to transfer that money to SR as per address given in account settings. Money has gone from Instawallet however nothing in my SR account??? How long does an average transaction take to process from Bitcoin wallet to SRr account?? Should I be worried?? Thanks in advance
It takes a few hours
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What about meeting people in person and buying Bitcoins? Anyone with experience with that?
Not personally, but I've heard mostly positive things about LocalBitcoins.
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Thank you for the heads up and the captivating tony76 story..I've already been scammed once ,and burnt another couple times. Your so right just as the vendors are intrusting of the buyer. We need to pay better attention to them. I'm still catching myself ready to FE smh..:(
The ones who's feedback are dropping quickly are the ones who seem to be ready to close shop. I appreciate the reminder of why we're here.
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New here and just checking everything out. I have known about SR for a while but have only done a bunch of research up to this point. I always research and talk to people about things like this and their experiences before I take any kind of risk. I have learned from reading a bunch here and on different places always do your research and if you don't have the answer find it or ask someone that can help.
I look forward to making my first purchase here in the next couple of days. I will be getting some BTC tomorrow as that was one of my main concerns was to do it as anonymously as possible,
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Good to see a list of scam BTC exchange websites growing here.
You really have to be careful and stick to the name brand websites when it comes to irreversible things like BTC exchanges.
If unsure, play it safe and go somewhere else :)
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I'm new here too, so you have to make up your own mind (duh).
I like the idea of going into a bank, making a cash deposit, going home and finding that it's already on the site I deposited to. I think the only concession you make to anonymity is that all banks have cameras. But as far as I know, you are just a regular customer. Maybe if you brought $10,000 you would get extra scrutiny. The last time a guy asked me for a phone number, and I made one up. The first two times they didn't ask me for anything. Then I buy whatever I want from BitFloor (paid almost $80 a BTC, it's REALLY gone up lately) and download to my computer (Qt 4.8.3)..
Anyway, that's how BitCopia and BitFloor work. I've used BitFloor 3 times and that's how it works. If you are someplace where there are no Wells Fargo (BitCopia) or Bank of America (BitFloor) banks then obviously this wouldn't work. But there are other set ups with banks.
When I go in, I tell them I'm making a 'cash deposit to my stockbroker', because BitFloor is also a stockbroker.
With the above arrangement, why would you ever want to send cash to somebody? Or anything else, even money paks or Western Union. When I deposited $1000 a couple of days ago, the total deposit to get $1000 to BitFloor was $1018, that's less than 2% fee.
You have to be worried about these phishing sites, like the fake silk road that's linked from the Wiki page. Wiki means that anybody can edit, and there's scammers that as soon as somebody fixes the Wiki, it gets changed to the scamming address right away.
I'd stick with the real mainstream entities, like BitFloor or MtGix (that's another scam site, I think with a space between Mt and Gix, like Mt Gix. You have to be VERY careful, there are a LOT of clever thieves who like to separate newcomers from their BTC.
JMHO.
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probably there's a (bad) reason why this alleged need to FE was only suggested for newbies... think about it...
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Greetings from the UK.. im a newbie.. known about SR for a while now but today got round to getting the browser and gettin started..
Can anybody help me and tell me where is best to buy bitcoins from gbp.
How do they usually charge me? by card?
Also, how does everybody feel about SR getting lots of media attention in recent weeks.. Are you guys happy about maybe more legit vendors looking into trading on SR or unhappy about the fact loads of people are finding out about SR which may lead to more effort in trying to stop it.
Id love to hear opinions.. and advise on getting me started of course..! :) :)
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Yeah like smooth said, if someone more knowledgeable on where the easiest place to purchase bit coins would be, as a SR newbie i would greatly appreciate it. Also I've been browsing forums and SR for a few weeks and am starting to feel more comfortable in getting involved in the community and such. I would prefer a website that is secure and able to take Pay-pal or maybe Western Union?
Thanks in advance.
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Great thread! I will plan on adding value as i get more experience under my belt :)
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Shit, I thought all of them were scams, Lately even Bitinstant has been taking peoples money. Check it out on reddit. lol
But Bitfloor is a good one if you live near a Bank of America. They got hit a while back but they reopened with stronger security measures. There is a few BofA's here here where I live but not as many as there used to be. Seems like Wells is everywhere right now. Go figure. I think they got the biggest bailout of all.
If anyone here has some serious coin sitting around I can help put them to good use!
19nRoyJkrvje9Cuig74b5KeQbT5eTbzYba
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so if new members are asked to FE its just the way it is for how long? cuz I don't want to FE
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Don't buy bitcoins off the road.
Use Mt. Gox or btkoin.
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thanks
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This might not be the most incognito or the best way to obtain BTC but I use coinbase.com. However, I'm currently looking for more stealth options to getting BTC, I'm thinking about trying localbitcoin.com to find local people who would like to part with the BTC they have for some cash I have.
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How about we DDOS bitswing.com ?
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Shit, I thought all of them were scams, Lately even Bitinstant has been taking peoples money. Check it out on reddit. lol
But Bitfloor is a good one if you live near a Bank of America. They got hit a while back but they reopened with stronger security measures. There is a few BofA's here here where I live but not as many as there used to be. Seems like Wells is everywhere right now. Go figure. I think they got the biggest bailout of all.
If anyone here has some serious coin sitting around I can help put them to good use!
19nRoyJkrvje9Cuig74b5KeQbT5eTbzYba
Bitinstant worked for me
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fuck, I wish I had seen the forums section before going on SR. Im a total fucking noob & got stung £1000 last week by Bitcoinbillionaires! Bastard!!
anyway, now I have found the forums I have found so much information about sorting pgp's & tormail.
I find trying to purchase coins in the UK to be a complete and utter nightmare, maybe thats me just not knowing where to look to ensure that I stay safe buying them, for instance using bank transfers etc how can this be safe, paper trail & order person obtaining you bank info when you send them dosh too.
Any pointer on any aspect of anything regarding the silk road is defo in theis forum so I will be reading till me head pops.
First post but I hope to hang about :)
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What I have found has been quite a bit of frustration so far. It takes forever to get things done. There is no clear FAQ on this. All of the FAQs are woefully incomplete and once I have this shit down I am going to do one so that nobody has to go through this crap again. I have been fucking around with this now for 18 days and am still not at the point where I can make a purchase on Silk Road. You would think that Silk Road would be all over this, but they are not either.
This defies explanation.
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thanks for the info, scout
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As you spend time here, you will likely come across bitcoin scams. In order to help you stay as safe as possible, we thought it would be best to make a thread listing the obvious bitcoin scams & scammer sites. Feel free to post any others you notice.
Do not send payments to any of the following sites under any circumstances!
SCAM SITES:
*** bitswing
*** bitcointalks (bitcointalk.org is a legitimate forum, but "bitcointalks.com" is a scam)
*** virwex (virwox is/was an exchange, but "virwex" is a scam)
*** btkoin
*** mtgix
Also:
1. Never finalize early on the marketplace
2. Never send money or bitcoins to someone offering a good or service via PM
3. Don't fall for it if someone on the forum says that sending them bitcoins is necessary (unless you have placed an order with an official vendor over on the market site, there is no reason you would need to send anyone your bitcoins)
4. Always, always stay in escrow!
5. Be vigilant & help look out for the rest of the community!
** When a deal seems "too good to be true" - there's a high probability that it is a scam. Be very careful and always make sure that you research vendors/sites before giving them any of your hard-earned money!
Thanks so much for this :D
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fuck, I wish I had seen the forums section before going on SR. Im a total fucking noob & got stung £1000 last week by Bitcoinbillionaires! Bastard!!
Cant believe you did this for 1000 at the start. Start small and keep it small if you're working outside a standard exchange, is my advice.
There are some services for UK users in the 'money' section of SR itself. Search the forum for their usernames for recommendations. PrincessHigh comes recommended. As does BitcoinsUK.
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Excellent sticky, thanks for the info. Definite must read!
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Just wanted to pop in and say cheers for all the helpful info. I'm a complete n00b and think it's great that there is a lil support community. *I hearby solemnly swear never to FE*
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There are lots of really creative scams for Bitcoin. One might think they'd make some cash if they dedicated their efforts at legitimate, if illegal business.
what site are you on again?
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Good information for the masses! I stick to my usual methods of obtaining BTC's
LocalBitcoins is a good site for P2P btc exchanging I have found, it uses an escrow system like with SR
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:D
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fuck, I wish I had seen the forums section before going on SR. Im a total fucking noob & got stung £1000 last week by Bitcoinbillionaires! Bastard!!
Cant believe you did this for 1000 at the start. Start small and keep it small if you're working outside a standard exchange, is my advice.
There are some services for UK users in the 'money' section of SR itself. Search the forum for their usernames for recommendations. PrincessHigh comes recommended. As does BitcoinsUK.
PrincessHigh is an angel. :)
V.
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not really a new member...i started about 7 months ago when a friend showed me the road and introduced me to methylone..never made an account since i had no access to computers at the time...well, in the past 2 months my friend and i have been scammed fucking twice while trying to receive bitcoins. do not, i repeat DO NOT use BankofBTC, he recently just scammed my friend and i out of $84..might not seem alot but when youre considered a minor it iss a good bit to work for. he cancled order, read messages and did not reply to them. gave bitcoins to another buyer that had the same problem but not to my friend and i. still have not received BTC...only reliable vendor for BTC now is sugarmama. wish Captainmal was still around like he was when i started...
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BitInstant worked for me, although they were having problem with the MtGox API, and it took about 36 hours to get money onto my MtGox account. Sure they take a cut, but it certainly seems like less of a headache and more reliable than many other methods. I might try something else for my next deposit, just to diversify, but if I ever need some fairly quick BitCoins then I'll be using them again. Molly, why do you purchase BitCoins through vendors? It just seems like a good way to get scammed eventually.
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I offer bitcoin for cash in the post.
selling page
http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/user/853d62ae10
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So many scammers out there :(
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SCAM SITES:
*** bitswing
*** bitcointalks (bitcointalk.org is a legitimate forum, but "bitcointalks.com" is a scam)
*** virwex (virwox is/was an exchange, but "virwex" is a scam)
*** btkoin
*** mtgix
When I saw this I remembered recently seeing an advertisement for "Virwex" which said:
"just come to trust website www.virwex.com"
I think I have seen this somewhere on a vendors page in SR, but you can find it with a search engine in various parts of the clear web too. I could not find it on the forum, but a search of SR surprised me. At the top of the results page, it said "1 user found: virwex"
But you cannot view that users profile, you can only send him a message. There were 6 other results spread across 4 vendors... but when I clicked on those results, the word "Virwex" was not mentioned on any of those pages. So the search is basically broken: 6 out of 7 results are false hits. And that makes me wonder what other things the search could be missing on. If I as a buyer am going to be paying these commissions through higher prices, then I expect those commissions to fund a search engine that works properly. Just sayin.
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what about the vendors that require members to be at a certain total in purchases before they will allow escrow ?
I recently Ordered from LL and had to fe before he would send the package He has excellent reviews and i have friends who have gotten their packages after FE'ing. Im currently waiting on the delivery to arrive which should be any day now.
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Read 7230 times! That says it all right there
All us SR newbies owe you a "Thanks" :)
~PB2k
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I was Almost scammed out of 1600 from "Findnell" but was able to withdraw my moneypak before he could.
Sugarmama has always been reliable for me but she only has a listing "for the patient" and explains it may take a few days, which it very much does.
BTCBuddy was the greatest bitcoin vendor ive dealt with but he quit a few months ago.
If SR could establish a bitcoin system it would be ideal but that would also make the website a one stop shop, which one would think LE would more aggressively attack.
Just my thoughts :P
Dr K
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THANK YOU
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Started spamming up to 50 and already got PMs trying to scam me about bitcoins, ridiculous.
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I got scammed by trying to use INSTAWALLET through TOR onion routing. This was my mistake because I briefly read about putting bitcoins in a secure wallet other than in SR account. To make a long story short. DO NOT USE "INSTAWALLET" THAT HAS A ONION ADDRESS. Like this: http://3rlqkicvauds47ch.onion/wallet.php?w=IcD2HASwDK4LsiIWaYWH8Zbk0 This is the site I went through to transfer my bitcoins from MTGOX to who fucking knows.... The real instawallet is a .ORG site and reputable from what I researched. Before you do anything, research the hell out of these forums. Learn from my mistake. Trust no one. There is an unusual amount of shady characters lurking this area of the web. This should also be considered a phishing scam but it involves BitCoins, so I posted it here.
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RxKing is VERY reliable for bitcoins as well-I'll vouch for him=excellent vendor and speedy! Modziw is also an awesome reliable vendor! I can't praise them both enough-great to work with-no bull shit=straight up guys.
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Out of curiosity -- how many of you have been scammed in some way or another? I'm a pretty savvy hack, but some of the scams i've seen would almost seem legit >:(
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Was scammed by BankofBtc for 500.00. Sucks
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What is escrow? sorry to sound stupid but ive seen that a lot
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Escrow= btc
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Bitinstant to Silkroad Account worked for me....4 times, no problem
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Thanks for all the stories. I didn't realize the extent of necessity to never FE. =( It's a bummer that the mantra has to be, never trust anyone.
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Hello everyone, I have a small question. Im a new member and I hope buyer on SR. I buying some product and send to vendor adress etc.
After two days the status of my order is "in transit",but vendor doesnt answer my messages ( he talking about moving - be busy - I think it will be good seller,good references,952 fans,94% good reply) It was after 7 days. Today I read again his condinion and it says : NEW BUYERS MUST FINALIZE EARLY
NEW BUYER: LESS THAN 5 PURCHASE OR <5% REFUND RATE
IMPORTANT: IF YOU ARE OK WITH THIS TERMS PLEASE ADD A MESSAGE THAT SAYS "WILL FE" IN ADDRESS BOX.
After reading I gave Finalize evaluated and gave 3/5 rating and wrote as soon as I change the order arrives rating.
What do you think? Do you think that when the status of my order "in transit" that the order has been sent?
Thank you for answers and advice !!! :)
(English is not my native language - excuse lots of errors please :D :) )
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Nice article
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The very nature of a MoneyPak for Bitcoin exchange means things cannot be done in escrow. You take your chances when doing such a thing because there are no funds fronted by anyone that SR can hold onto until the transaction is complete ("finalized"). Escrow, in laymans terms, means that you deposit the funds with SR. SR will not release these funds to the vendor until you "finalize" the transaction. Once you "finalize" SR releases the "deposit" to the vendor. If you finalize before receiving your order (the transaction is technically not complete) you are releasing the deposit and that's that. There is no longer any leverage to keep the vendor at the counter until you have your goods.
As I previously stated, a MoneyPak for BitCoin exchange has no funds fronted at the start of the transaction. The vendor can simply take the MoneyPak number you gave out and simply walk away. We can work to get those parasites banned but recovering your MoneyPak is very difficult and cannot happen thru SR. You would have to open a case with GreenDot to make life difficult for the jerk who stole your MoneyPak. It's easy to do and you aren't compromising anything since both MoneyPak and Bitcoin are totally legal. Thievery of either is not. So, you could go to bed at night knowing that eventually this clown will see his balance but can't withdraw squat. If he's stupid enough he may even see this balance from the pokey. And that my friends, after being scammed my share of times from ilk like BankOfBtc, allows me to hit the pillow with a sh*t-eating grin on my face
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Thanks so much.
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Hello all,
This is my first post on here, though now that I have finally found this I plan on being a regular.
With that being said, would someone be kind enough to reply to me with and "show me the ropes"
I have lots of questions, but mainly: how do we pay? what are the best ways to gets stuff shipped, specifically is it safe to have things sent to your home? how do we order?
Thank you
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Well looks like my very first purchase on SR was a scam. Bought 10gm of MDMA from Chemicalsisters, who insist because of scammers, you have to finalize early. Now it seems as if no other US buyers are getting their order lately. Chances are I won't get my package either. Looks like I learned the hard way. Now I know.
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send coins here if you ever need safe keeping ;]
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Keep your eye out for the next big one
Silk Road reported the greatest scam in its fifteen-month history, which cost the site’s users over a hundred thousand dollars in just two days.
Silk Road’s vendors live and die by their reputation and feedback, which buyers give much as they do on eBay. Nobody on Silk Road had a better reputation or more enthusiastic feedback than Tony76, a vendor of heroin, stimulants and psychedelics from Canada.
The site has a system of escrow in place – a user places an order, money goes into escrow and the user releases it once the order has been received. Any disputes can be referred to the site’s administrators for resolution.
However, ‘trusted vendors’ have always been allowed to request that users ‘finalize early’ – release the funds immediately. New members to the site are often asked to do so until they prove themselves to be ‘trusted buyers’, and sellers will ask for early finalisation when bitcoin – the virtual currency used to trade on the site – is fluctuating wildly.
A few days before the great ‘420 Sale and Giveaway’ held on April 20, Tony76 posted in the forums that he was being targeted by a vindictive rival seller who had threatened to set up bogus buyer accounts to order thousands of dollars of drugs in “multiple orders, in multiple names, from multiple states”. Tony would have no way of knowing which were the bogus accounts and would lose the money not released from escrow.
‘Don’t worry’ came the flood of replies from Silk Road’s community. ‘Everyone knows and trusts you, Tony. To avoid this horrible scammer, just make everyone finalize early.’
So when Silk Road held the ‘420 Sale and Giveaway’, the site’s highest-grossing and most trusted vendor, “Tony76”, jumped on board, offering fabulous discounts on his products and for the first time ever opened up shop to buyers outside North America. Orders flooded in from users well accustomed to receiving high quality goods from this seller and from new users, excited to have the chance to buy from such an esteemed identity.
And Tony, sadly, had to ask all buyers to finalize early until he could sort out the situation with the scammer. And of course they did. He was the most highly respected and prolific seller on Silk Road; the buyers had had countless transactions that went smoothly; anyway, to not finalize might mean missing out on a bargain.
A week later the rumblings started. The local orders should have arrived by now. Tony wasn’t answering messages. The bespoke site Tony had set up was gone.
Two weeks later the rumbles became a roar as it became clear that the most trusted vendor on Silk Road had absconded with what buyers estimated was over a hundred thousand dollars for a single weekend’s work. One moderator of the forums placed it at a cool quarter of a million dollars.
There followed much angst and hand-wringing going on at Silk Road. Some believed Tony76 was killed by Mexican drug lords. Others assumed he had been busted. Many refused to believe that someone in their ‘Community’ would do such a thing. Then came the conspiracy theories: he is already selling under another name; Silk Road’s owners are in on it; it’s all part of a worldwide sting and nobody is safe; Tony76 is actually a Canadian bikie gang.
Perhaps the greatest surprise to take from this is the number of people who are shocked that a drug dealer would rip them off. Silk Road’s advice: never trade outside of escrow.
It’s a lesson that will stay with their customers for a long time.
I'm rather green to SR, so this was really helpful!
I'll keep this in mind, and never FE! :D
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thanks for the heads up, but being a new vendor, only having a couple of transactions in place, although I had a couple of earlier transactions with an old account but forgot the password, and I have had to finalize early both times, after reading all of the threads people say about not to finalize early, leaves you in a bit of catch 22 position. All I can do i pray.....
trying to find a good reliable vendor is like finding love.... in a way. :)
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im taking the time to read all of the threads to get a grasp of the ropes having been aware sr for quite some time now decided to jump on it im finding i cant login into sr and the sr wiki 90% are deleted is there anyother places where futher information on how i may access the market?
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Thx for this
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moneypak or western union to vendor "Xanax Bar" for bitcoin is a no no!
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Thank you for the warning.
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Damn. Tony really burned the shit out of a lot of people. Yet still, I see vendors insisting folks finalize early and buyers going for it. What is the main benefit to the vendor, especially if his rating goes down by not coming thru?
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thanks for the heads up, but being a new vendor, only having a couple of transactions in place, although I had a couple of earlier transactions with an old account but forgot the password, and I have had to finalize early both times, after reading all of the threads people say about not to finalize early, leaves you in a bit of catch 22 position. All I can do i pray.....
trying to find a good reliable vendor is like finding love.... in a way. :)
If you message them before hand and explain your situation then many will understand. It's often a precaution taken to weed (PUN INTENDED) out scammers and dbags, but if you contact them then they'll usually be more cool about it. If that doesn't work just bite the bullet and FE on a trusted sender for a small order :)
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There are lots of really creative scams for Bitcoin. One might think they'd make some cash if they dedicated their efforts at legitimate, if illegal business.
Man, there was a painful read on reddit the other day. Some guy decides to be secure and get a password protected wallet, and googled it. Found a wallet site, did the steps, password secured so he thought. Never crossed his mind that the website that generated the password for him saves it. Threw in several hundred dollars of bitcoins, and next day all gone.
So another piece of advice, don't rely on the easiest or first to read google result to think it's good. Get multiple opinions!
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Thank you
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My main concern other then having stuff shipped to my home address and trying to find a po box that will take fake info, is the FE that is required for newbie. Should we just look around until we find someone that will do escrow if they ask us to FE? or are we sorta required to take the change before anyone will trust us?
HELL NO! You are NEVER truly required to FE! Some vendors will put that on their profiles, but it is actually against the rules to REQUIRE early finalizing.
Yes, you should always look around until you find a vendor who lets you stay in escrow. Never, never, NEVER finalize early!
sometimes tho you can read feedback and if you see a lot of people who did FE before and it turned out fine and the vendor been around for ab a year and has 100% rep you can FE
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newbie post
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does SR have a recommended third party vendor of Bitcoins? for depositing and withdrawing.
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My momma says shes proud of you
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wow i was just about to use bitswing too because of all the spam. thankfully i came in this thread first before jumping the gun
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TwoMuch is a scammer... latest user name to be banned was bankofbtc............... report his butt
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TwoMuch just scammed me for $950 on a MP/BTC order!!
SCAMMER!!!!
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Ain't nobody got time to get scammed!!
:-*
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thanks this is helpful
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Thanks for the heads up!
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thank you. much needed Info!
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Thanks for this story
its a good reminder that there are scammers out there at every turn. quite frankly the reason most come to SR is the fact that they have been ripped off on the street or had bad product or an unreasonable price. those people are here too causing the same issues.
Excellent points. I notice that on the wiki and to many vendors, an 'option' exists for whether or not you want to FE. Ignore this - NEVER FE! It's a safety feature. I don't care how much you like this person or how much free stuff that person has given you. There is no such thing as 100% trust here.
I don't care if I sound retarded but, the fuck stands "FE" for?
I've seen it a lot on here and have no clue :o
(it's my first day in school!)
Thanks
You don't sound retarded at all! FE = finalize early. It's when you buy a product and then release your bitcoin payment to the vendor prior to receiving your order. This is a VERY easy way to get scammed, so you should try to avoid doing it at all costs. Vendors aren't allowed to "require" anyone to FE. If they do, then find another vendor who doesn't require it. Instead, always stay in escrow -- for your own safety! In escrow, you don't pay until you receive the order. A lot less chance of getting scammed that way.
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I am new to SR and am lost! I have been left some bit coins from a fellow member who is sadly no longer with us. :'( I now would like to send some of the coins to Mt. Gox to sell, then re-buy when they're worth a little more, then send back into SR wallet to purchase with. How do I do this?!? I know this is 101 stuff to you guys and ladies, but I am confused and need to understand this method. And last, what is the best method of cashing out from SR when I take profits?
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Has bitinstant got there shit together?
I had successful, rather quick, BitInstant "cash-to-bitcoin address" via MoneyGram bill pay on 11-April-2013. I kept it under $100. fwiw
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where is the most reliable and fastest place for btc in uk?
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User "Twomuch" is a scammer. Enough said. DO NOT DO BUSINESS WITH HIM!
I just lost a bunch of money and am furious. It hurts so much when you are broke.
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I wish I would have read this before I found bitswing. They got me for $90, and I even paid through PayPal and am having a hard time getting my $ back. I always thought PayPal was a sure way to protect yourself, but it's been a struggle...and I'm not giving up.
Great post and much appreciated! Once you find a good way to buy bitcoins, stick to it!
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BitInstant works like a charm. Use bitinstant to Virwox to 3rd wallet then to SR.
Only FE'd once and I liked it as much as a fucking root canal, but the product was worth it. Took the chance and got my product. I would never say 'don't FE', that's your call. In my perspective it may be a necessary evil. On the up side it built up a trust with the vendor and I doubt that he asks me to do it again. On the downside, you get fucked out of your btc.
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what are some legit with low% of using their site to get bit coins in your SR account..
i have been searching but cant seem to find many sites that is cash over counter into bit account then tHEY transfer to my SR accounts..
and im gettting confused it sucks someone please help with a list of good bit sellers
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I had good luck with bitinstant. Then again I had to make a new account. So here I am again.
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That story about Tony in the biggining of this thread.... mind blown. Seems like any good vendor on here could pull that scam off whenever they decide to "retire." Glad I read this, thought as a new user everyone would require early finalization.
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Ow, thnx for the information.
I think this forum wil be of much service.
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Excellent points. I notice that on the wiki and to many vendors, an 'option' exists for whether or not you want to FE. Ignore this - NEVER FE! It's a safety feature. I don't care how much you like this person or how much free stuff that person has given you. There is no such thing as 100% trust here.
I don't care if I sound retarded but, the fuck stands "FE" for?
I've seen it a lot on here and have no clue :o
(it's my first day in school!)
Thanks
You don't sound retarded at all! FE = finalize early. It's when you buy a product and then release your bitcoin payment to the vendor prior to receiving your order. This is a VERY easy way to get scammed, so you should try to avoid doing it at all costs. Vendors aren't allowed to "require" anyone to FE. If they do, then find another vendor who doesn't require it. Instead, always stay in escrow -- for your own safety! In escrow, you don't pay until you receive the order. A lot less chance of getting scammed that way.
Thanks for that - I was going to ask that too, but thought I'd take a quick look around first. Glad I did. Great to be part of this community! :D
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What's with having to give your Soc. Sec. # to Dwolla? Is this cool? I certainly don't understand how all of this works, but sure glad some of you who do know are providing the service! Us over-the-hill hippies have a dwindling list of contacts - and I'm looking forward to getting on the SR.
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Thank you for all the really useful info in this thread.
I expected a steep learning curve getting my head round SR, but I didn't realise that working with bitcoins was going to be such a minefield. I thought it was just a matter of buying a bunch of BTC online and then using 'em to buy stuff off SR. I'm glad I read this thread before actually buying any coins 'cos now I can see how many scams there are out there.
I still haven't bought any bitcoins or shopped on SR. Still looking for a decent UK bitcoin seller who not only delivers but also doesn't charge way over the odds for coins.
Addicts are notorious for wanting stuff by yesterday at the latest, which is why I reckon that so many scammers get away with stuff here. A bit of patience and a bit of research can save a whole heap of tears!
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What's with having to give your Soc. Sec. # to Dwolla? Is this cool? I certainly don't understand how all of this works, but sure glad some of you who do know are providing the service! Us over-the-hill hippies have a dwindling list of contacts - and I'm looking forward to getting on the SR.
God no?
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PLEASE HELP!!! I was using BitFloor to buy/trade for Bitcoins but they have suspended trading and are now refunding money. I haven't used anyone else and I need to buy some Bitcoins. Suggestions PLEASE!!!
Thank you!!!
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As you spend time here, you will likely come across bitcoin scams. In order to help you stay as safe as possible, we thought it would be best to make a thread listing the obvious bitcoin scams & scammer sites. Feel free to post any others you notice.
Do not send payments to any of the following sites under any circumstances!
SCAM SITES:
*** bitswing
*** bitcointalks (bitcointalk.org is a legitimate forum, but "bitcointalks.com" is a scam)
*** virwex (virwox is/was an exchange, but "virwex" is a scam)
*** btkoin
*** mtgix
Also:
1. Never finalize early on the marketplace
2. Never send money or bitcoins to someone offering a good or service via PM
3. Don't fall for it if someone on the forum says that sending them bitcoins is necessary (unless you have placed an order with an official vendor over on the market site, there is no reason you would need to send anyone your bitcoins)
4. Always, always stay in escrow!
5. Be vigilant & help look out for the rest of the community!
Some vendors demand FE even if you're a returning customer with a more or less clean record. I think SR should ban FE's for proven customers and make sure the escrow system is always used only with the exceptions for new buyers and buyers with unsually high rates of refunds.
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Hmm reading this thread after i FE-ed on a $200 order from FrankMatthews.. Feeling really stupid now..
Will see if the stuff arrives...
But ah well. lesson learned. :'(
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just got scammed tryin to buy ukash on rsgoldchange.com site looks legit --got nothin
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very helpful thanks
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Ok,some vendor ask to FE to new buyers with less than 5 successfull transaction... what about buying inexpensive things like digital downloas 1$ worth to build up feedback?
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stumbled across SR by sheer serendipity :) and wow am I overwhelmed with all the information :o .....
just wanted to say thanks to everybody for posting such helpful advice, I'd be completely lost
without it .... hopefully if I keep doing my home work Ill start to receiving some of the goods we're
all here for ;D
peace
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Been browsing The Road for a while. Came across many items id love to try but i have most (though maybe lower quality at times) things available to me now. That and i value the low amount of coins i own now more than the items i would be interested in grabbing. Im a pretty safe shopper and doubt the minor tripfalls will scam me once i do. Good reads, headups, and warnings on this thread though. However earnthebitcoin.com still to few offers for me to actually complete to redeem my coins. Grr. Besides that, great site, forums and i may actually be selling before i buy. 8)
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Agreed. NEVER Finalize Early (with a seller you don't have a relationship with)
You see so many vendor pages saying they require you to FE if you live in a certain country, if it's over a certain order amount, etc. But know that it's agains SR policy for a vendor to require FE.
I lost $400 because the vendor page said it was required for US buyers, and as soon as I finalized their account went into stealth mode and I haven't heard from or seen them on SR again. As long as a scammer can make back the initial SR deposit required for new sellers, they will keep at it.
Too bad we can't all just buy our illegal drugs in peace, without worrying about criminals. :)
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it really sucks to see so many people FE, and then come here and find out they could get scammed. hope everything works out for you guys.
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My first order on SR I didn't FE, still I was scammed. It was a small order with a highly trusted UK-vendor (100). And even though I never recieved any goods or even a customs letter the SR ruled a 50% refund. Newbies can easily be targeted for select scams even if you do stay in escrow.
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I just joined and sent some bitcoins over to SR. As far as I could see they never arrived but on checking my account history a couple of days later they arrived the day I had sent them but an hour after it showed a withdrawal which wasnt me.
Does anyone know what this would be? If its normal? I think I lost all my coin :(
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Good sticky thread! Now just need the 50 post limit removed for vendors ;)
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don't know where to write this down but here is a maybe a good place for this.
ok, i made a mistake. i didn't read a rule belonging to the following point:
this morning i wrote a pm with an offer to several members who seemed to be interested in flunis. i have flunis and wanted to sell them (4 boxes with 30 x 2 mg). because i don't want to deal like a business-man i don't want a seller account (i'd never reach 30 trades). so i made it this way. i'm not a scammer but now i know that this is not accepted at this board because one guy answered to my pm (very aggressive btw ^^) and told me that this is forbidden.
i'm very sorry and this will never ever happen again.
regards
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xsb - that is NOT normal. Hopefully it wasn't alot of coins...did you give your SR password out...BTC transactions are irreversible...
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SCAMMER buyers beware of vendor: Funny Money tricks you into ordering and then holds your money hostage, trying to make you FE. Definitely does not have the product he claims and pretends that he has filled his quoata of 12 when he has only made 6 transactions. Scammer do not do business with Funney Money(100) you will be scammed into FEing and then lose your money!!! Stay away from Funny Money
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My first buy on here was some awesome Molly. My partner and I had many orgasms that night.
Just because I don't like vagina, doesn't mean I hate women.
Can't we all just get along?
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I've already had 3 great transactions.
Start small. They're not going to ship you $50 worth with no stats.
Just remember.
If a gay Muslim could do it, so can you!
(future American)
GayMuslim
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I always FE with Frank Matthews and have never been disappointed. So I would not make a practice of Finalizing -I have no worries with Frank. If it does not come he re-ships it. Over 20 orders. As a newbie i can understand your paranoia.
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Great Read.
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I appreciate all of the info for newbies. It 's all very helpful.
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Thank you, sir !
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great sticky.
does anyone feel like if there are a bunch of FE's on a vendors reviews, it means its ok to do it? this is such a tricky subject.
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great sticky.
does anyone feel like if there are a bunch of FE's on a vendors reviews, it means its ok to do it? this is such a tricky subject.
That's a tricky one. Even if a vendor is mostly on the up and up, has good/high stats, and good reviews, some have been selectively scamming.. This is when they pick one person out of however many to rip off. It seems to be going on more and more recently, and with reputable vendors. Possibly to pad their overhead costs due to large fluctuation in bitcoin prices. It's possible that some of these vendors just made mistakes and the buyers just assumed they were ripped off. But when selectively scamming it would make sense to do it to people that FE. Especially if you are new and have little or no buying stats. So if they put up new listings that all ask you to FE or change all of their existing ones then they might be selectively scamming.
I would recommend to only FE with a vendor you have successfully made a purchase from using escrow. If there is an item you want to purchase and the vendor require FE for new buyers, move on. There is most likely the same item for sale by a vendor that is new buyer friendly. Find one that doesn't require FE. There are even some vendors that are nice enough and patient enough to walk new buys through the whole process. I only FE when I have built up a relationship with a seller through several successful transactions. They also usually give me a little extra product for doing so too.
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thank you!
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Good read.
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Thanks, good reading
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Thanks for all the great tips! So if my package doesn't come in time before it auto finalizes, I simply want to hit the "resolve" button correct? What exactly does taht do for me?
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Thanks for all the great tips! So if my package doesn't come in time before it auto finalizes, I simply want to hit the "resolve" button correct? What exactly does taht do for me?
+1 For reading something helpful. Yes by doing that, it will place it towards the resolution center. You will also have an extention of time option.. Try to contact the seller first before you do either. If you ordered international it may take longer anyways. Check out White Out's post I bumped up as well in the thread. Good for you,
DokLokIQ
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Thanks for all the great tips! So if my package doesn't come in time before it auto finalizes, I simply want to hit the "resolve" button correct? What exactly does taht do for me?
+1 For reading something helpful. Yes by doing that, it will place it towards the resolution center. You will also have an extention of time option.. Try to contact the seller first before you do either. If you ordered international it may take longer anyways. Check out White Out's post I bumped up as well in the thread. Good for you,
DokLokIQ
Thanks Dokta! I have gone ahead and read his post. it's very useful. I've also gone ahead and asked the same quesiton. Perhaps you can help me out although you've somewhat answered the question for me partially:
"I have a quick question regarding international orders that need to be resolved. I'm coming up on 4-5 days before auto finalization is happening and still haven't gotten my package. Should I have already talked to my dealer about a resolution? Do i need to hit resolve button in order to open a ticket with the "resolution center"? What is the best way to go about this? "
so first go ahead and talk to the dealer. When would it be a good idea to hit teh resolve button? White out says 12-15 days into a domestic order, but I'm pretty much there with this non domestic order. Should I hurry up and shoot a message to the dealer asking what kind of resolution we can work out and let him know I'll be hitting resolve in the next 2 days?(leaving me with 2-3 days before auto finalization)?
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I almost fell for one of these scams. Thankfully I checked here so thanks for the heads up....
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Thankfully, most scams aren't too hard to spot. Just buy from reputable folks!
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When it comes to coinbase are they pretty recent. Someone mentioned using it but they want your bank information. Is it best to get the transfer and then delete the account?
I'm just not sure if they're legitimate or not
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@Scout
Thanks so much for posting this.
It really restores my faith in humanity to see how supportive and generally nice people are here.
Sure there are the scammers and assholes, but most here are pretty decent--if only real life had this many supportive people!
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very good advice! thanks scout
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The problem is most of the top venders require FE if you have less than x number of SR transactions.
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Thanks bro, good read :)
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Thanks for the info!
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Thanks for help. Myself FE with a vendor with a lot of good stats and nothing came. Never FE with new vendors. NEVER
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Thanks for the warning.
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Thank you for the warning. I've been on the internet since the early 90's and i still try and educate people on how easily it is to lose, money, personal info, etc. on the internet.
remele5150
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They always say never FE but as a new user I found rarely do I have a choice - always something like 'if you have 5 or less transactions you MUST FE...' and 90%+ of sellers have this.
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I can't believe people actually fall for bitcoin scams. I saw a clearnet site discussing SR with someone trying to do bitcoin scams in the comments section and numerous replies by people saying that they got scammed out of several hundred dollars each.
Thievery is immoral, but use your brain.
It's like people clicking on banner ads or popup adds saying "You won $1,000".
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My main concern other then having stuff shipped to my home address and trying to find a po box that will take fake info, is the FE that is required for newbie. Should we just look around until we find someone that will do escrow if they ask us to FE? or are we sorta required to take the change before anyone will trust us?
HELL NO! You are NEVER truly required to FE! Some vendors will put that on their profiles, but it is actually against the rules to REQUIRE early finalizing.
Yes, you should always look around until you find a vendor who lets you stay in escrow. Never, never, NEVER finalize early!
As someone that has just recently discovered this fantastic community, that was a question I had playing in my head as well. I realize that trust runs both ways & before coming here I heard a ton of misinformation (I now see) about SR.
Glad this question was posted & answered. Like most of you, I plan to become a regular customer. It's just a matter of getting a foot in the door. ;) Not to mention reading through how everything works.
Peace & Love
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Keep your eye out for the next big one
Silk Road reported the greatest scam in its fifteen-month history, which cost the site’s users over a hundred thousand dollars in just two days.
Silk Road’s vendors live and die by their reputation and feedback, which buyers give much as they do on eBay. Nobody on Silk Road had a better reputation or more enthusiastic feedback than Tony76, a vendor of heroin, stimulants and psychedelics from Canada.
The site has a system of escrow in place – a user places an order, money goes into escrow and the user releases it once the order has been received. Any disputes can be referred to the site’s administrators for resolution.
However, ‘trusted vendors’ have always been allowed to request that users ‘finalize early’ – release the funds immediately. New members to the site are often asked to do so until they prove themselves to be ‘trusted buyers’, and sellers will ask for early finalisation when bitcoin – the virtual currency used to trade on the site – is fluctuating wildly.
A few days before the great ‘420 Sale and Giveaway’ held on April 20, Tony76 posted in the forums that he was being targeted by a vindictive rival seller who had threatened to set up bogus buyer accounts to order thousands of dollars of drugs in “multiple orders, in multiple names, from multiple states”. Tony would have no way of knowing which were the bogus accounts and would lose the money not released from escrow.
‘Don’t worry’ came the flood of replies from Silk Road’s community. ‘Everyone knows and trusts you, Tony. To avoid this horrible scammer, just make everyone finalize early.’
So when Silk Road held the ‘420 Sale and Giveaway’, the site’s highest-grossing and most trusted vendor, “Tony76”, jumped on board, offering fabulous discounts on his products and for the first time ever opened up shop to buyers outside North America. Orders flooded in from users well accustomed to receiving high quality goods from this seller and from new users, excited to have the chance to buy from such an esteemed identity.
And Tony, sadly, had to ask all buyers to finalize early until he could sort out the situation with the scammer. And of course they did. He was the most highly respected and prolific seller on Silk Road; the buyers had had countless transactions that went smoothly; anyway, to not finalize might mean missing out on a bargain.
A week later the rumblings started. The local orders should have arrived by now. Tony wasn’t answering messages. The bespoke site Tony had set up was gone.
Two weeks later the rumbles became a roar as it became clear that the most trusted vendor on Silk Road had absconded with what buyers estimated was over a hundred thousand dollars for a single weekend’s work. One moderator of the forums placed it at a cool quarter of a million dollars.
There followed much angst and hand-wringing going on at Silk Road. Some believed Tony76 was killed by Mexican drug lords. Others assumed he had been busted. Many refused to believe that someone in their ‘Community’ would do such a thing. Then came the conspiracy theories: he is already selling under another name; Silk Road’s owners are in on it; it’s all part of a worldwide sting and nobody is safe; Tony76 is actually a Canadian bikie gang.
Perhaps the greatest surprise to take from this is the number of people who are shocked that a drug dealer would rip them off. Silk Road’s advice: never trade outside of escrow.
It’s a lesson that will stay with their customers for a long time.
I'm new to the online hand to mailbox but not a rookie to the hand to hand IRL & online just makes it so much easier to get got. Just shows ya that nothing is for surely guaranteed. Always gotta have your head on a swivel.
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They always say never FE but as a new user I found rarely do I have a choice - always something like 'if you have 5 or less transactions you MUST FE...' and 90%+ of sellers have this.
Really? I have never been asked to FE. Maybe because I order small quantities, and within EU, or maybe because I have been past 5 transactions for quite some time now, but still.
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:o Ok fellow cyber traveler's! , new to this today and well impressed. I Use Topix which is a scammers paradise, great info on these forums, bit lost here, but I will get there.
Just thought I would say hello anyway and thank's for the info on the pro's n con's of SR.
Peace
Boing2 :0)
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Glad most of the vendors in my country don't require a finalize early. Seems like just asking to get scammed with no recourse to getting a refund/reship after.
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Once you build trust with a vendor you can FE if you like,(YOU NEVER HAVE TO UNLESS SPECIFIED) I used to have a selling account and cash flow can be a real bitch with the whole escrow thing.. you have to go into stealth mode to stop people buying just to make sure you can reload again but once you got the flow sorted its all good.
Any vendor who always delivers and has gained your trust over time, deserves FE just to make their lives a little easier.
Symbisios(I can never spell it right) is always next day delivery for me so I FE for him now.. hes big time so probably doesnt give a fuck either way but I do feel sorry for some sellers dangerous game they are playing..
Bitcoin rise is like a little benefits scheme to cover all the sellers problems haha
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And as always be sure to encrypt your wallet! Senn alot of wana be skid hackers trying to steal your wallet.dat file!
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:'(
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Stick to small quantities at first, used trusted vendors and read about them in the forums, message them ahead of time saying you're new. Make it easier on the sellers because they take new risk with new buyers.
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That's insane...
Keep your eye out for the next big one
Silk Road reported the greatest scam in its fifteen-month history, which cost the site’s users over a hundred thousand dollars in just two days.
Silk Road’s vendors live and die by their reputation and feedback, which buyers give much as they do on eBay. Nobody on Silk Road had a better reputation or more enthusiastic feedback than Tony76, a vendor of heroin, stimulants and psychedelics from Canada.
The site has a system of escrow in place – a user places an order, money goes into escrow and the user releases it once the order has been received. Any disputes can be referred to the site’s administrators for resolution.
However, ‘trusted vendors’ have always been allowed to request that users ‘finalize early’ – release the funds immediately. New members to the site are often asked to do so until they prove themselves to be ‘trusted buyers’, and sellers will ask for early finalisation when bitcoin – the virtual currency used to trade on the site – is fluctuating wildly.
A few days before the great ‘420 Sale and Giveaway’ held on April 20, Tony76 posted in the forums that he was being targeted by a vindictive rival seller who had threatened to set up bogus buyer accounts to order thousands of dollars of drugs in “multiple orders, in multiple names, from multiple states”. Tony would have no way of knowing which were the bogus accounts and would lose the money not released from escrow.
‘Don’t worry’ came the flood of replies from Silk Road’s community. ‘Everyone knows and trusts you, Tony. To avoid this horrible scammer, just make everyone finalize early.’
So when Silk Road held the ‘420 Sale and Giveaway’, the site’s highest-grossing and most trusted vendor, “Tony76”, jumped on board, offering fabulous discounts on his products and for the first time ever opened up shop to buyers outside North America. Orders flooded in from users well accustomed to receiving high quality goods from this seller and from new users, excited to have the chance to buy from such an esteemed identity.
And Tony, sadly, had to ask all buyers to finalize early until he could sort out the situation with the scammer. And of course they did. He was the most highly respected and prolific seller on Silk Road; the buyers had had countless transactions that went smoothly; anyway, to not finalize might mean missing out on a bargain.
A week later the rumblings started. The local orders should have arrived by now. Tony wasn’t answering messages. The bespoke site Tony had set up was gone.
Two weeks later the rumbles became a roar as it became clear that the most trusted vendor on Silk Road had absconded with what buyers estimated was over a hundred thousand dollars for a single weekend’s work. One moderator of the forums placed it at a cool quarter of a million dollars.
There followed much angst and hand-wringing going on at Silk Road. Some believed Tony76 was killed by Mexican drug lords. Others assumed he had been busted. Many refused to believe that someone in their ‘Community’ would do such a thing. Then came the conspiracy theories: he is already selling under another name; Silk Road’s owners are in on it; it’s all part of a worldwide sting and nobody is safe; Tony76 is actually a Canadian bikie gang.
Perhaps the greatest surprise to take from this is the number of people who are shocked that a drug dealer would rip them off. Silk Road’s advice: never trade outside of escrow.
It’s a lesson that will stay with their customers for a long time.
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;) GREAT pro-tips! Keep us noobs informed! THX
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Thanks for the warning. It's great to have threads like this when the learning curve is a bit steep for some.
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Marked for later read. Right now just trying to get my 50 posts, but as I've done so I have come across many interesting topics
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For european people we have Bitstamp it's excellent. Very quick and anonymously for small amount (-500€)
Siz
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Thank you for the tips! ;D
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** When a deal seems "too good to be true" - there's a high probability that it is a scam. Be very careful and always make sure that you research vendors/sites before giving them any of your hard-earned money!
Words of wisdom
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Add me to the list of people being ripped off by SamGiancana. luckily mine is just an attmept right now as I did not F/E luckily(only because I already fell for that and got ripped of twice by smooth talkers. no more) and He pulled the exact same Shtick as everyone else. first a fake usps tracking # (for a domestic order explain that one) then a message saying someone hacked his account and to resend info and he would get the real tracking # . from here he ignores every message/email and order was about to auto finalize so I put it into resoloution, just waiting on that now.
Man this guy is something else, so nice and sincere to begin with . and tons of people are F/E for his generous 20% extra from a "trusted and stand up vendor" i cant believe this
they really need to look at revising the rules for F/E, maybee abolish it for trusted buyers or something I dont know but the scams are getting bad.
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thanks for the heads up, good thread
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Yes I agree about not FE when not dealing with face to face, but as street service provider the one time you give on credit something, when the client promises to pay you end of month or few days because no cash machine is around, they tend to go missing for a little while :) but my honest feeling to this is when you do things out of routine with a someone, thats when things go wrong.
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Thanks for the info
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Don't you easycoin.net , there a scam, as soon as you put coins in account they take them out into another account.
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Tons of good info. Glad I stumbled upon the forums and this thread^^ ;D
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thanks for tips
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my current situation really blows.... I placed a pretty big order with a vendor, DubG, who appears to be legit. I d he sent me an email telling me how "money is tied up and if I fe he would be generous in the next order", so with his rep being high and his feedback good, I did it, plus I did appreciate the value of hte product for the money. When I got the package the box was all bent up which wasn't a big deal, but it was short and not what was promised ( a lot of shake and a little short on weight)... I sent him an email saying it was short but he could hook it up next time, like he already said he would, since I fE'd when he was in a bind.... So I order again, his last of the "wholesale" he said he was having about a week ago, and he said he would get it right out, be there by "sat" if not guaranteed monday, etc. I didn't get it saturday, he said he'd check the tracking but didn't have it at the moment, asked him sunday if he got it, he said no and "everything was so hectic"....then, asks for my city and all that like he is gonna finally give me tracking, and he says "It looks like i shipped double to someone else near you, I will make it whole, either a refund or different bud from another "top shelf" but it would be less"..... I told him I was really in a bind and didn't have time to wait and that he needed to check tracking and verify it with me and I wanted to avoid a dispute if possible, because time is of the essence to me right now.... well when he responded he basically told me I was a scammer and would have to wait til resolution because "many scams have been going on lately"...hmmmm...ya, no kidding...... He has been horrible with answering me despite me expressing the importance of this, i mean, i gave a dud 525 dollars and 650 last week and he won't even respond when I tell him how urgent it is, or take the time to give me tracking which is his end....his page guaranteed 60 hours from order to doorstep... I sent him all my transaction and buying history, like he asked, and basically it seems like he just wants to make me squirm or delay the inevitable of the refund that he even said he would give because it was his mistake.... real disappointed. I emailed admin, this is my first dispute in 11 transactions. sucks.... thank god Ididn't FE, NEVER FE! unless its someon you really really trust
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Add me to the list of people being ripped off by SamGiancana. luckily mine is just an attmept right now as I did not F/E luckily(only because I already fell for that and got ripped of twice by smooth talkers. no more) and He pulled the exact same Shtick as everyone else. first a fake usps tracking # (for a domestic order explain that one) then a message saying someone hacked his account and to resend info and he would get the real tracking # . from here he ignores every message/email and order was about to auto finalize so I put it into resoloution, just waiting on that now.
Man this guy is something else, so nice and sincere to begin with . and tons of people are F/E for his generous 20% extra from a "trusted and stand up vendor" i cant believe this
they really need to look at revising the rules for F/E, maybee abolish it for trusted buyers or something I dont know but the scams are getting bad.
feels like exactly what is happening to me right now with Dub G, nothing worse than scammers seriously it is such bad karma
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Good tips. In general, don't send your bitcoins to anonymous people unless they have a good track record in the community.
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thanks for the heads up
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always stay vigilant and anonymous
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Cheers Scout :)
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I read the excellent Tony76-story posted as an early reply to the OP and it is such a good example of what a scam is and how we all are possible victims and how we react after we have been ripped off. I especially like the part of "how everyone was suprised a drug dealer ripped them off, since he was a part of the "community" and "trustworthy".
It points out what it takes to decieve on such a scale as this was. It, i dare say, couldn have happened if Tony76 hadnt worked hard to earn the one thing that money cant buy and which takes time and commitment to earn; trust and loyalty from his peers. In this situation you, me and everyone else are viable marks for a scam, dont fool yourself otherwise.
I wonder, what signs of a an upcoming scam or shady deal have you noticed yourselves when been scammed or ripped off or whatever you call it? IF you haven been, be prepared because itś will happen sooner or later if there are money to be made, unfortunatly.
The dealer that becomes "hard to reach" or unwilling to talk, doesn call back etc is present almost always in my history, i think. This is a big red flag. Say some order isn arriving, if the seller has really sent it he is interested to hear from you to see if it has arrived. If it hasn he has every reason to be worried too.
Not communicating is never good and people tend to avoid thing that are uncomfortable, like those you have decieved.
Think about it, it goes for you employer if you are taking a sick day when on a binge or whatever. If you really are sick then you have no issue presenting this, it may even get you some sympathies. =)
ITs getting a bit long, this post. Iĺl digress.
F-hand
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this is stuff we all need ta know.
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There's a wealth of information in this thread, thanks alot everyone
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So if i FE because the vendor( he is in the top 1 % with over 300 transactions btw) asks for it on his profile and sends a message to me to FE... i am scammed ?
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I've noticed some vendors offer free shipping if you FE, and they have positive reviews on their profiles. Think this can be trusted, or generally is it better to just pay for shipping because you are probably gonna get scammed?
Also sorry if this has been answered a thousand times. Didn't really feel like reading through allllll the posts, plus I need to reach 50 posts to join the big boys club.
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Keep your eye out for the next big one
Silk Road reported the greatest scam in its fifteen-month history, which cost the site’s users over a hundred thousand dollars in just two days.
Silk Road’s vendors live and die by their reputation and feedback, which buyers give much as they do on eBay. Nobody on Silk Road had a better reputation or more enthusiastic feedback than Tony76, a vendor of heroin, stimulants and psychedelics from Canada.
The site has a system of escrow in place – a user places an order, money goes into escrow and the user releases it once the order has been received. Any disputes can be referred to the site’s administrators for resolution.
However, ‘trusted vendors’ have always been allowed to request that users ‘finalize early’ – release the funds immediately. New members to the site are often asked to do so until they prove themselves to be ‘trusted buyers’, and sellers will ask for early finalisation when bitcoin – the virtual currency used to trade on the site – is fluctuating wildly.
A few days before the great ‘420 Sale and Giveaway’ held on April 20, Tony76 posted in the forums that he was being targeted by a vindictive rival seller who had threatened to set up bogus buyer accounts to order thousands of dollars of drugs in “multiple orders, in multiple names, from multiple states”. Tony would have no way of knowing which were the bogus accounts and would lose the money not released from escrow.
‘Don’t worry’ came the flood of replies from Silk Road’s community. ‘Everyone knows and trusts you, Tony. To avoid this horrible scammer, just make everyone finalize early.’
So when Silk Road held the ‘420 Sale and Giveaway’, the site’s highest-grossing and most trusted vendor, “Tony76”, jumped on board, offering fabulous discounts on his products and for the first time ever opened up shop to buyers outside North America. Orders flooded in from users well accustomed to receiving high quality goods from this seller and from new users, excited to have the chance to buy from such an esteemed identity.
And Tony, sadly, had to ask all buyers to finalize early until he could sort out the situation with the scammer. And of course they did. He was the most highly respected and prolific seller on Silk Road; the buyers had had countless transactions that went smoothly; anyway, to not finalize might mean missing out on a bargain.
A week later the rumblings started. The local orders should have arrived by now. Tony wasn’t answering messages. The bespoke site Tony had set up was gone.
Two weeks later the rumbles became a roar as it became clear that the most trusted vendor on Silk Road had absconded with what buyers estimated was over a hundred thousand dollars for a single weekend’s work. One moderator of the forums placed it at a cool quarter of a million dollars.
There followed much angst and hand-wringing going on at Silk Road. Some believed Tony76 was killed by Mexican drug lords. Others assumed he had been busted. Many refused to believe that someone in their ‘Community’ would do such a thing. Then came the conspiracy theories: he is already selling under another name; Silk Road’s owners are in on it; it’s all part of a worldwide sting and nobody is safe; Tony76 is actually a Canadian bikie gang.
Perhaps the greatest surprise to take from this is the number of people who are shocked that a drug dealer would rip them off. Silk Road’s advice: never trade outside of escrow.
It’s a lesson that will stay with their customers for a long time.
Hey, when you copy and paste from my site, a little attribution would be nice. Just sayin'
http://allthingsvice.com/2012/05/30/the-great-420-scam/
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I've noticed some vendors offer free shipping if you FE, and they have positive reviews on their profiles. Think this can be trusted, or generally is it better to just pay for shipping because you are probably gonna get scammed?
Also sorry if this has been answered a thousand times. Didn't really feel like reading through allllll the posts, plus I need to reach 50 posts to join the big boys club.
It would be best to stay in escrow. Think about it - shipping isn't THAT expensive, and if it means you can stay within the protection of SR's escrow system, I think it's worth it to pay for it and forgo the "free shipping" offer for FE. Finalizing early is always risky no matter how well you think you know the vendor, or how many times you have successfully purchased from them, or how many good reviews they have.
It's just safer to stay within the escrow system because it is in place for your protection.
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Tip noted.
But I've noticed that lot of user FE early on some vendors. Some also write FE because of trust etc.
But thickheaded and careful as i am I could not help wonder;
Could the recent hijacking attempt of SR result in fake profiles with fake amount of fans, products and reviews?
Just asking. Seen a lot a strange feedback's in the review/rating part of some products.. Talking about easter in the midle of May etc..
But might just be bad English, i dno.
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Great read, thanks!
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Thanks for the warning!
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I would like to give a HUGE shout out to "blowdrobro" & "scout" in the great efforts to slow & finally stop this piece of shit that goes by "Kwick Ficks"! I too fell victim to his MP for BTC NO FEE scam. Nobody's fault but my own really, but It made my day to read the current status on Kwicks vendor account. Thank you again bowdrobro, scout, & SR staff!1
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Why is there a finalize early function when the moderator says that no one should use it and that it is against the rules of the marketplace?
Edit: I read it is not allowed for vendors to require it, but plenty do. Where is the logic?
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I totally agree with you venlog!! makes no sense
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Why is there a finalize early function when the moderator says that no one should use it and that it is against the rules of the marketplace?
Edit: I read it is not allowed for vendors to require it, but plenty do. Where is the logic?
I think that the FE is for releasing funds to a vendor who sent the product fast. that way it rewards vendors for fast shipping because they get their money sooner. requiring it for shipping is a misuse of the feature.
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So glad I saw this thread first before reading a bit further down in the topics there were several posts listed for a deal on bitcoin by bitswing.com. Why aren't these topics removed if it is a known scam? Or perhaps someone just hasn't gotten around to it.
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Thank You for sharing this valuable information.
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While I'm a newbie in the forums, Ive actually done over 40 transactions on the road. i have had to "FE" for some goods, but this was one item from a vendor, where all other items were fully in escrow. Outside of that, whenever a vendor "requires FE" for all of their items, I would either contact them about a transaction in escrow, or look for another vendor. a great example of how greedy people get screwed is SamGiancana, until recently, he had coke and meth coming from canada. he put on his profile "FE for an extra 20%," right before he took everyones money and shipped nothing. The only way to really get screwed is to do a transaction out of escrow. While I see many vendors require it for new users (apparently some people dont know how escrow works, and dont finalize until SR autofinalizes in 17 days). While you may have to suck it up if you have no buyer stats, any vendor that makes everyone FE is a big red flag.
thats just my $0.02...
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FE seems like a sure way to kiss your money goodbye unless both parties are familiar with eachother. To me, it'd be like giving some cash to someone you just met who was going to go "meet the dealer" to get the goods. HE's never coming back.
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I am a newbie on the forum but have been on SR for 7 months or so. Always heeded the warnings about no FE. Then my "go-to" vendor started requiring it. Should have backed way off when he inboxed me saying that he'd required FE for 5 months, even though he had never required it in my prior transactions. Long story short, vendor is gone with my money. Good prior transactions does not build trust. I had been trusting and naive. Harsh lesson to learn.
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I have also been on the road for close to a year and did not heed the warnings to FE early because I was dealing with a trusted vendor. mixmasterrick and synchrug you have opened my eyes. I will count myself lucky that I have made it unscathed but I will not be FE early any more. Thanks for posting.
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Excellent points. I notice that on the wiki and to many vendors, an 'option' exists for whether or not you want to FE. Ignore this - NEVER FE! It's a safety feature. I don't care how much you like this person or how much free stuff that person has given you. There is no such thing as 100% trust here.
I don't care if I sound retarded but, the fuck stands "FE" for?
I've seen it a lot on here and have no clue :o
Finalize Early.
11/50
(it's my first day in school!)
Thanks
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Hey guys,
I was wondering if you guys could help me figure out if I got scammed yesterday. I initiated a bitcoin transfer for cash with a seemingly trusted vendor/trader here, Sugar Mama BTC. Some of the other safer methods weren't accessible in my country, and based on her reviews and general likeability here, I western union-ed the money to her according to her instructions. Communication was spot on up until my money went through.After a mail from her stating a runner was picking up the money, I never heard from her again. This was around 5:30 - 6 PM ET, and she mentioned she would be working yesterday up until 7 PM EST. By the MTCN wire tracking, I saw the money has been picked up/withdrawn. So far, no money in my BTC wallet and no response from her since. She mentioned she wouldn't be working up until Monday again, and I noticed that people on the forums here mention sometimes it took up to 4 days to process their funds (varying from an hour to a day to up to four days). I'm trying not to freak out as this is my first transaction related to SR, but you can imagine my worry as someone who's motto is bitcoins within an hour has taken more than one day already to process the transfer. That alongside some clear red flags like no further communication, I'm not exactly at ease that things are going the way I planned.
Has anyone had any similar experiences or know what's going on? I guess I won't officially find out till Monday if I've been scammed or not, but if anyone has any input/suggestions/experiences I'd really like to hear from you.
Thank you again to the community for your constant help to us noobs.
Thanks.
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SCAMMER - marketeer - MP exchanges
yeah, i'm an idiot. wonder if a pi could sniff the fucker?
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silly rabbit, mtgix is for kids
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Bitcoin crazy shit for sure. I use coinbase so far so good :)
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Where can I find information about getting rid of trace on bitcoins using blockchain? I don't know if siding them through different wallets is enough to cover tracks or not.
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Has anyone out there used coinmama.com? Supposedly you can use a cc via moneygram but essentially you are wiring them funds and so they could easily bounce with your cash, the site seems rather devoid of any way to validate its legitimacy, i really wanted to buy btc without all the linden dollar exchanges... but im starting to think using a credit card to buy btc will never get any easier.
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just transfered 22 aus via bitinstant stii hasnt shown up in my sr account 1/2 hour later WHAT THE FUCK HAS HAPPENED
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It takes a little time for any bitcoin transaction.. dont freak out just yet
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Chill Chill
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Thanks for the tips and i hope the scammers out there get the karma they deserve.
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Much appreciated for the links of sites to look out for. I'm actually suprised, I thought there would be many more sites out there! Will this thread be updated on the front page if more of these scam sites pop up from people posting about them in here?
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wow good info
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Hey Friends, (hopefully)
I am no fool in real life, but I am new to this world, and operating on SR is by far the most complex thing I have done as far as computers are concerned, so I am a little freaked out about the whole thing. Today I made my first two orders and as I write this they are processing. That being said, I am still wondering a few things that I am hoping some fellows may be cordial enough to help me out with.
These scams are a concern of mine, and a lot of terms that are thrown out on the road, I frankly do not understand. One that I currently am wondering about is Escrow. The original post on this thread says "Always, Always stay in escrow" ....I do not know what that means, can anyone help me? I appreciate it.
-Chim cham
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after they are done processing (after the seller sends them)
He will mark them in transit... at this point the money you paid for the products is kept in an escrow account or a holding tank until you receive the product and release the funds to him...
After it is market in transit you will see an option that says Finalize, once you have received everything in good order you finalize..
do not finalize early unless its for small amounts, you dont have any way to get money back
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Thanks for elaborating Mobius72. This is all pretty overwhelming for me, I could not even find my post to see if there was a response. I am a fool when it comes to tech. and computers.
My orders, them being my first two, are both relatively small, about $150 between the two...I know I should read the profiles or whatever about the vendor, and I did. Neither said anything about FE, so I am hoping that I will not need to, though I will understand any skepticism from vendors. If they request it in order to ship, should I cancel and try to find another vendor? Or should I accept that because I am a newbie, I am essentially untrustworthy, having no history?
-Chim Cham
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LOL @ MtGix.
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thanj god i didn't fall for those sttupid bitcoin adds. they're pathetic.
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BTC Buddy is a scammer. STAY away - i am sure he will be back. He cahsed out my MP for $100 then went out of business the next day. Total scammer. STAY AWAY.
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thanks for the information.
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This probably is the wrong thread to ask. I may have overlooked this but do the prices for the product fluctuate the same as the bitcoin value.
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VENDOR: "GOOD DRUGS"BIT COIN SCAM!!!!!!!
He scammed me out of 300 dollar on a money pak to bit coin. I have no reason to lie....my normal vendor was out so I tried him an his stats look good but he's just a good fake im telling everyone beware. I think he has been setting this whole up all month to take people $........its been 35 hr since he said he was sending. an not answered any of my pm so I pm him from a fake account an he respond in 45 seconds....no shit. ready to take $ for $PAK......PLEASE DONT GIVE HIM A PENNY OR A BIT YOU GET ME!!!!HE IS BAD NEWS WITH A SLICK STYLE. ITS NOT HIS 1ST RODEO AN HE HAD THIS PLANNED GOOD!
I have talk to another guy an he was made to f'/e an he has not got shit yet!!!! I cant stress this enough.
IF I GET MY COINS I WILL DO A FORMAL APOLOGY RIGHT HERE AN GIVE HIM A 100$ BACK SAYING IM SORRY CAUSE TALK IS CHEAP! >:(
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dude everyone needs to use blockchain.info biggest BTC bank in the world with multiple multiple BTC miners
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Okay, I get that you should never ever FE. What I don't understand is when you read the vendor feedback, you frequently see stuff like "FE'd, great communication". What's with that? Are these folks who don't read? Or are they shills who are trying to make FE seem normal? And why do buyers want to communicate with vendors? Isn't the whole point of SR to keep everything hush-hush, the less said the better? Is this newbie missing something?
???
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Communicate meaning in terms of answering your questions, placing your orders and general communication about your order.
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Vendor good drugs is a scam. I repeat vendor "good drugs" is a scam dont give him anything. not money pack...nada....he will screw you!!
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i saw these last nite
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Y'all stay safe out there....
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There are lots of really creative scams for Bitcoin. One might think they'd make some cash if they dedicated their efforts at legitimate, if illegal business.
The one thing I see most in BTC listings , MP/BTC deals, is the term "NO FEES" That term right there snagged me, and I got scammed (Kwick Ficks) $280.00. Lesson learned! And for 3-4 weeks now I've noticed another vendor account replacing the one(s) that just got banned.
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Great tips before my first BC attempt. Thanks!
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YIKES
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As a vendor I would not ask for FE, one guy in India required that I do so but I just cancelled my order immediately.
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lol riveting
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User "Ig0wdaflo" seemed like the greatest guy in the world, had perfect feedback after 9 months ... sent him $300, he promised me my BTC by 10am the next day. That was four days ago, he accepted the transfer, and nothing. I sent him a LOT of messages, most nice, some obviously pissed off, because he was reading them and logging on every day. I noticed that since then, he dropped from perfect feedback down to 68 ...
All I keep asking him for is an explanation, and I'll leave him alone. I'm a nice gal, I just want some answers. He gave me his name, location (exact location), bank account number, routing number ... I don't get it. I told him if he got robbed, if he was desperate, just explain it to me and I'll understand.
Anyone have any experience with this guy? It's the principle of the matter now, seriously.
Edit: I should add that I'm not a newbie, I just can't remember my username, email or password for my old forum. I have perfect stats, that bastard. I know I shouldn't be this mad, but I am. >:(
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This fuck from Atlanta GA is selling terrible shit and she know's it. She told me that she hopes I choke on it and she would never give a sucker back any money. Here's what's in her shit that she claims is 85% pure flake cocaine.
Got burned bad by 10TOES on some shitty coke with some really bad cut that Wikipedia says is a poison. This shit called Levamisole is bad news and this asshole's blow is loaded with it,
Stop Tentoes!! You are hurting lots of people! Now you know and you have no excuse to sell that crap other than to hurt people. Stop selling Levamisole! You are hurting people!! Many people get fucked up mental reactions to that shit and it drives them nuts and they don't know why! It's because you are poisoning them! Stop poisoning the community. It also KILLS!
Levamisole
Systematic (IUPAC) name
(S)-6-Phenyl-2,3,5,6-tetrahydroimidazo[2,1-b][1,3]thiazole
Clinical data
AHFS/Drugs.com Micromedex Detailed Consumer Information
MedlinePlus a697011
Pregnancy cat. ?
Legal status ?
Routes Oral
Pharmacokinetic data
Metabolism Hepatic
Half-life 4.4-5.6 hours (biphasic)
Identifiers
CAS number 14769-73-4 Yes
ATC code P02CE01 QP52AE01
PubChem CID 26879
DrugBank DB00848
ChemSpider 25037 Yes
UNII 2880D3468G Yes
KEGG D08114 Yes
ChEMBL CHEMBL1454 Yes
Chemical data
Formula C11H12N2S
Mol. mass 204.292 g/mol
SMILES[show]
InChI[show]
Physical data
Density 1.31 g/cm³
Melt. point 60 °C (140 °F)
Yes (what is this?) (verify)
Levamisole, marketed as the hydrochloride salt under the trade name Ergamisol (R12564), is an anthelminthic and immunomodulator belonging to a class of synthetic imidazothiazole derivatives. It was discovered at Janssen Pharmaceutica in Belgium, in 1966, where it was prepared initially in the form of its racemate (called tetramisole).[1]The two stereoisomers of tetramisole were subsequently synthesized,[2] and the levorotatory isomer was given the name levamisole. Levamisole has been used in humans to treat parasitic worm infections, and has been studied in combination with other forms of chemotherapy for colon cancer, melanoma, and head and neck cancer. In some of the leukemic cell line studies, both levamisole and tetramisole showed similar effect.[3] The drug was withdrawn from the US and Canadian markets in 2000 and 2003, respectively, due to the risk of serious side effects and the availability of more effective replacement medications.[4][5] The key toxic effect of the drug is agranulocytosis, a severe depletion of white blood cells that leaves patients vulnerable to infection.
Currently, levamisole remains in veterinary use as a dewormer for livestock. The medication has also been increasingly used as an adulterant in cocaine sold in the US and Canada, resulting in serious side effects.[
Published on: April 26 2013
Tested by: PineappleLove
Vendor: 10toes
Listed as: "Premium Fishscale Cocaine"
Purchasing method: Anonymous
Results:
48% Cocaine
46% Levamisole
6% Caffeine
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:( :( :(
Oh man what you wrote makes me feel like a pussy for my post, that was your life.
Things like that scare the shit out of me. I hope you're okay and she gets a bad dose, and I rarely wish harm on people.
I don't come much on the forums, and have never had a problem for almost a year, until now.
What is the process for people like this? Do they ever get dealt with, banned, anything?
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I Won't FE for all Transactions.
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i have made a deposit to my SR wallet. but when the time i wanted to withdraw, i couldn't and its said insufficient funds. What should i do? I sent money from my another bitcoins already and now i couldn't withdraw :( :(
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try to reach that 50 mark...
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try to reach that 50 mark...
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As they say, be alert, not alarmed :)
The best way to avoid a scam like this is by simply being alert.
-BB
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wow would've been fucked if i hadn't read this when i did, :o thnx everyone 8)
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Watch out!
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This is great stuff... waiting for my coins...
Thanks to all.
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Many thanks people much appreciate this info
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Yep Arms Depot (AD) are a scam.
All nicey nicey and chatty before payment- then BHAM after payment they do not contact you for any number of messages. I pointed out that their Site was the same as 'Executive Outcomes' (EO) and they posted a disclaimer that they had nothing to do with them immediately.
They said a tracking number would be provided in 7-12 days- so they have around a week and half to prove this. But I am not hopeful.
I also wrote to Executive Outcomes- and only got this in reply- "Thanks another scam". They are identical to AD, just look jazzier.
For example, just look at the spelling mistake on both sites: http://imwvq3drst5zens6.onion/index.php ... er=product on EO and on http://2ousn6z3qfxvcv7t.onion/ArmsDepot ... oductID=84 on AD. It should be Lone WOLF threaded Barrel. Spelling mistakes, same layout and product offerings on both sites??? Smells very fishy to me.
Luckily I placed a very small order on AD I could afford to lose. Losing money is losing money- but the lesson is worth it.
Bests
Shenobie
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good thread. i would pay extra for a good reliable bitcoins seller rather than running the gauntlet with dodgy pricks.
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Since I fell victim to a BTC scam awhile back, I feel that it's necessary to post this. I was browsing the Money category, just a bit ago, and I found this... http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/user/678ece5166. A new vendor account trading bitcoins, NO FEES. Members new and old, don't allow yourself to fall for these NO FEE temptations.
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localbitcoins.com
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localbitcoins.com
And I can vouch for this man, on that site.
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I always use bitbargain.co.uk for instant bank transfer payment, I've used it many times and never had a problem. a good option for UK buyers.
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If you're in canada, cavirtex.com is a good way to get coins
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I was scammed last year by a bitcoin vendor. Never again will I use vendors to purchase coins
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I feel stupid for being scammed on some instant pay scam here on SR just before Christmas. I bought the bitcoin off a vendor here who has a stealthwebsite selling bitcoins to a few people. The scam was some photo that was hacked or something (sorry don't know a lot about puters) but I know a few of us bought certain things, sent the bitcoins to some address and the real vendor never got anything.
I know a lot more now about the different scams but confess I am glad I have a trusted bitcoin merchant.
The information here is good in parts but wish people would just stop using it to make 50 posts!
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So, even if I am a noob and still haven't even bought anything, I shouldnt have to FE ?
My main concern other then having stuff shipped to my home address and trying to find a po box that will take fake info, is the FE that is required for newbie. Should we just look around until we find someone that will do escrow if they ask us to FE? or are we sorta required to take the change before anyone will trust us?
HELL NO! You are NEVER truly required to FE! Some vendors will put that on their profiles, but it is actually against the rules to REQUIRE early finalizing.
Yes, you should always look around until you find a vendor who lets you stay in escrow. Never, never, NEVER finalize early!
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i am new to bitcoin and lost 1 out of my 2 so far.
But I am learning fast.
school of hard knocks
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spam spam spam!
spam spam spam!
spam spam spam!
spam spam spam!
some great info here, thanks everyone. they're everywhere! get rid of these adds shall we? spam spam spam!
I didnt explane myself. i meant the bitcoin scam adds are spam spam spam, they junk up the forum.
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This all good for new users to know
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Thanks so much for this information Scout! Very much appreciated. This speaks volumes of how much you care for the members here.
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Yo man,
I'm a completely new member to the silk road etc just wanted to know if you're able to give me some insight to a legitimate website for purchasing the bitcoins, and also how much 1 bitcoin is in AUD (australian dollars)
Cheers brother
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Bunch of great guys on here!!! :) eradicate the con merchants!!!!!
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have done fe and all ok but dont anymore as always nervous
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Hello :D
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8)
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OMG to whomever replied about what FE was I am forever in your debt.
I am a newbie here and I thought i had money yet in btc and I was so confused about the FE thing and what escrow met and I have been emailing my seller and he/ she wont get back to me about my order . I emailed them 4 times now and I saw they were on today and never replied to me. I am using my hard earned money here to get my product and I havent got it yet and it has been since the 7th of June.
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Theres always the risk of loosing money, dont do it if u cant afford it 8)
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I have found that reading these forums will save you lots of time and trouble. Research your vendor here before placing orders. Also communicate with the vendor too, read their vendor page thoroughly, and most will answer your concerns maturely. Most importantly is Never FE (finalize early).
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Bitcointalk.org is excellent.
oh yes it truely is, the number of GB nowadays is awesome!
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Thumb up, very useful thread!
This will sure help me in the future!
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Good info.
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in case it has not been said already.. if you decide to make an account at ATL.. or BM, do NOT use the same login credentials.
when SR was down at the end of April i went over to ATL just to see what was going on, and my lazy ass used the same login credentials from SR. The next day when i try to log in to SR, my password had been changed. 5 days later when admin were able to get me into my account, i had 0 BTC left in my account. it was a lazy dipshit move on my part to create a duplicate login, and i paid for it. all be warned!
Not pointing fingers, but ATL can fuck off. As for my lesson, that's what i get for steering away from SR.
My apologies DPR and the rest of the crew!
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is the f.e thing a scam then?
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Thanks for all of the great information.
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Hi All,
a research request.
out of interest, ( i havent read all the pages but most dont seem to tell anyway) what are the amounts people are trying to buy? I'm going to be setting up as a bitcoin dealer over the next few months and my first trades selling bitcoins will be small too as i build rep and confidence in regular clients just as they do with me.
I'm hoping to be set up by end of july but only if all goes well. a bit of logistics required for what i wish to do due to coveing mor thna one country and currency.
All the best everyone and safe travels,
Gatty
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I Found this site,looking for info on Bitcoins :) I found it very informative,as a Newbie.
I hope it helps others!
http://www.weusecoins.com/en/
Peace n Pot, 420.
Memphis http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/Smileys/default/cool.gif
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Hey guys,
I'm having trouble with MT. GOX Bitcoin Exchange. Has anyone dealt with them, and if so how was the experience?! I've just tried to deposit bitcoins into SR and though it's registered the withdrawal from their side, my account is still empty. Is there a waiting period for the transfer from one to the other, and if so how long?!
would really appreciate any useful feedback.
cheers Pointer79 :-[
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Bitinstant could be considered scam worthy sometimes due to long waits and lack of communication.
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they are supposed to be fast. I guess they have lost speed over the years.
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Decided to go with a cash in the mail service rather than have a transaction attached to a real world account - newbie paranoia strikes deep - not sure how clean you can actually wash a bitcoin or even how to do it! Used a reputable SR vendor - but sweating on my coin a bit now and wondering how insane I must have been to stick all that cash in the mail to a total stranger! First night nerves - sure it will be fine! Tell me it will be fine... somebody, please... ;D
Update:
And lo, it came to pass that everything was indeed fine...
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Oh my god, I just see this stuff now.
I sent Wespey 700EUR with Moneygram.... My last money..
This cant be true..... Is there any way to do something or is the money hopeless lost?
Feel so sick now.....
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The Feds issued warrants on MtGox & others, all their transactions are froze.
http://money.cnn.com/2013/05/16/technology/bitcoin-mt-gox/index.html?iid=EL
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Good info thanks!
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they are supposed to be fast. I guess they have lost speed over the years.
Last time I used them, it took a few days & still no coins. Finally had to email them about it & they got it fixed. Seems like virtually everyone has the same problem. Not considering them again until they get their mess fixed.
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Thanks for the info. I try my best to deal locally. I've been pretty fortunate that the local group I buy from aren't sketchy at all.
They charge about $5 on top of the BTC value. Not shabby.
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Hi everyone.
Im pretty new to this, been on SR for a while. Just trying to get up to my 50 posts
Im just lookin into purchasing my first few bitcoins. Now, obviously i dont want to get scammed the first time i buy some.
Which sites would people say are most trusted to buy from?
meatman
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:)
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Thanks for the information... for us Nubes, it can be a lot to wade through...
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That is sooo true... quite daunting at first. Like a fine wine, though, it gets better with age.
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Gah got scammed earlier!!!!!! Hence the screen name
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thanks for the info! i may have missed something, but after 50 posts we get to post in the main threads? is there anything else that you get privileged with'?
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WoW o_O
Thanks for the info, this is tricky...
Thanks again ;;;;
cheers
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Hate hate bitcoin scams. I have faith in the currency and mofos are screwing with something beautiful.
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if its too good to be true, its too good to be true.
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Thank You so much for the awesome tips!
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Tks for the warning
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Newbie here. Can anyone point me towards legit bitcoin dealers
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All this about FE and vendors making you do it else go elsewhere should be stopped if its the rules or not be allowed to trade on here the tony usa story should have settled that one
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is cloudhashing.com a scam ?
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I'm pretty certain that the BTC "investment into SR" is a scam.
Sent to vendors.
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I JUST GOT SCAMMED BY SOUTHBEACHID FOR $260.00
I BELIEVE HE IS AFFILIATED WITH CRYPTOKEEPER
DO NOT GO TO SOUTHBEACHID
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As you spend time here, you will likely come across bitcoin scams. In order to help you stay as safe as possible, we thought it would be best to make a thread listing the obvious bitcoin scams & scammer sites. Feel free to post any others you notice.
Do not send payments to any of the following sites under any circumstances!
SCAM SITES:
*** bitswing
*** bitcointalks (bitcointalk.org is a legitimate forum, but "bitcointalks.com" is a scam)
*** virwex (virwox is/was an exchange, but "virwex" is a scam)
*** btkoin
*** mtgix
Also:
1. Never finalize early on the marketplace
2. Never send money or bitcoins to someone offering a good or service via PM
3. Don't fall for it if someone on the forum says that sending them bitcoins is necessary (unless you have placed an order with an official vendor over on the market site, there is no reason you would need to send anyone your bitcoins)
4. Always, always stay in escrow!
5. Be vigilant & help look out for the rest of the community!
** When a deal seems "too good to be true" - there's a high probability that it is a scam. Be very careful and always make sure that you research vendors/sites before giving them any of your hard-earned money!
This is a brilliant initiative here.
Let it be known beforehand that I have nothing against bitcoin vendors, that what I state might sound exaggerated (I won't go into the hassle making nightlong researches and statistics), that my point of entry is self preservation and scam reduction: better safe than sorry.
If I may suggest:
- bitcoin scams are fairly common, it is almost harder to find anyone being reliable than to encounter scams.
- they might be reliable at some point, but turn scammer the next morning
- finding reliable vendors demands investigation
- finding consistently reliable vendors demands CONSTANT investigation or trust
- trust and/or gullibility are required for a scam to be possible
- hence scammers want to be trustworthy and knowledgeable
So it is a good start to list the obvious known and ousted scams, but let's not forget about the one in the making. I realize you suggest that, too, just wished to emphasize it real quick.
Peace out
Jason
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Thanks for the advice
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I think its kinda sad that people need to be reminded to be extra careful with their bitcoins, but I guess they could be the same people sending X amount of dollars to Nigeria. :-\
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thank you
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Thanks for the tips
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I got scammed for $600 via MP a few months back. I haven't read through the thread, but I think it's a good thing to note to not buy bitcoins using reloadable cards like that, unless from a long time reputable vendor like sugarmama.
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thanks
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Good Work Scout!
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can i use escrow if i wanna pay with bitcoins? <o?
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great help, thanks!
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thanks for the advice!
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Is it safer to send BTC to blockchain before sending them to SR?
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Very good thread,
Thank you
YCTT
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I can do coins!..Never thought abt,but i have a perfect coin technique lets just say,never had one issue!...How would i become a vendor for them?
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Could do
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thanks for the heads up
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Someone earlier mentioned Sugarmama..1000% with her services!!..If u got that bread,she is best and only i used on road!!.Till i found my new service,almost as much as mamma
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thanks for the info.
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Someone earlier mentioned Sugarmama..1000% with her services!!..If u got that bread,she is best and only i used on road!!.Till i found my new service,almost as much as mamma
I don't see Sugar Mama's vendor page anymore. Awhile back she announced "going on vacation for a few weeks" and that was 2+ months ago.
Sugar Mama was a legit Bitcoin vendor , I used her several times when I was in need.
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I used to use Thewiseoldowl but one day he stopped trading and took down his site. I wish I would've held on to some bitcoins from a few years ago (when they were 5 bucks!!).
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Many thanks for the information!
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very informative topic here... I have been using sr for a year now and only was asked to fe 1 time on my first purchase it was a small purchase and i took the risk.. the vendor made it very well worth it for me and i had 0 issues but that doesnt mean tha all vendors can be as trustworthy just i got lucky enough to find a descent vendor
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I've not been scammed yet but I'm sure it's only a matter of time. The key is having so much money you don't care. ;D
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I've not been scammed yet but I'm sure it's only a matter of time. The key is having so much money you don't care. ;D
Ha ha ha ha true^
That or having so much money you can pay people not to scam you :P
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I've not been scammed yet but I'm sure it's only a matter of time. The key is having so much money you don't care. ;D
Ha ha ha ha SO* true^
That or having so much money you can pay people not to scam you :P
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People are shitbags... however I Find that people in the BTC community, SR, BRM etc are a bit less shit-bag-like than those I deal with in Legit clearnet business. I cannot tell you the number of fraudulent charge-backs and other random bullshit I have to deal with. Long live SR/BMR/Bitcoin/TOR and this community.
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Thanks for the tip, mo noho
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Been reading some really helpful comments about possible ways of getting scammed. I appreciate the good folks who've posted. Sadly, though, I'm coming to the conclusion that trying to buy BCs is (maybe especially here in Canada) leaves you more prone to getting scammed than even buying drugs on SR.
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Thanks for informing the newbies on bitcoin buying/selling Scout! +1
Scout is truly a guide, even amongst some of the SR elders, his cooler head and sound advice always prevail. I made a similar post about scams/bitcoin buying safety earlier for newbies, please read, to protect yourselves! Good luck out there
http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=179396.msg1321784#msg1321784
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Complete n00b seller question as I'm worried i'm now vulnerable to being scammed, when someone buys from me does the cart system keep my SR bitcoin address private or public? So it's ok to share the address via message?
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Stupid noob question: Do I have to buy my bitcoins anonymous if I buy them a mt. glox or btc-e? I have to send them a copy of my ID to be able to deposit money and to stay anonymous Id need a fake ID. This seems to be too much of an effort because I only buy really small amounts.
Wouldnt it be safe enough to transfer them from btc-e to blockchain and from there to SR?
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Dunno 'bout others trying to buy bitcoins these days but it seems very difficult to set up accounts without giving ALL of your fucking information to the powers that be.
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Complete n00b seller question as I'm worried i'm now vulnerable to being scammed, when someone buys from me does the cart system keep my SR bitcoin address private or public? So it's ok to share the address via message?
Just to re ask this question, should you ever give out your SR BTC address?
Just I did and I've noticed 0.1 BTC go missing today ...
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That's disappointing. I haven't been around here long enough, perhaps, to get much of a sense but it seems that getting bitcoin, moving it around, and keeping it safe is by FAR the hardest part of buying/selling on SR.
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That's disappointing. I haven't been around here long enough, perhaps, to get much of a sense but it seems that getting bitcoin, moving it around, and keeping it safe is by FAR the hardest part of buying/selling on SR.
Yes I am finding this too. I am having to put all my activity on hold until I get answer here. Though this community seems great I'm sure someone will answer soon :)
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DMTelf:
I had to basically 'go naked' to Mt. Gotcha (and another 'reputable' dealer of bitcoin) and still, several days later, I'm having trouble buying coin...even though they basically know as much about me now as the tax man. :(
Wondering whether the international Feds aren't doing all they can to prevent bitcoin from becoming a viable currency. Sigh.
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Never FE - what about for my very first purchase? I recall reading somewhere vendors will want you to FE to make sure you're not just making a new account to get free drugs from them. But I also read to NEVER FE. But some reviews are just 'fe fe fe' so wtf?
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I don't think Mtgox will be able to tell where your funds come from. You would have to xfer to your wallet before xferring to them anyway. And even if they did they wont care, as to them it's just more business.
Bitbargain.co.uk is a very different architecture, instant xfers from UK customers that want to change money for BTC rather than major centralized company dealing with your money.
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I wonder why these bitcoin scams are really rampant these days :(
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enjoythecoin is also a scam, cashed MP and no coins
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Any on had a good experience with Enjoy The Coin? Thinking it's a SCAM?
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more comments on this, pls!!!
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this was a very good idea.
save people time and money
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God damn it, I just made my first order, and was asked to FE, which I did. The seller, uroosa336, has a shit ton of postive feedback, I really hope I didn't get beat :(
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Ya, I'm kind of bent on purchasing from Subsrgood.... He asks all buyers under 5 transactions to FE early, and doesn't use/know how to use PGP encryption...
But he has super good feedback and 100%, with I think near 300 transactions....
IDK, seems sketchy that he doesn't know how to use PGP though..
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I'm confirming myself as a scam victim of enjoythecoin :'(
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Looks like uroosa336 may be the first person to ever scam me on the road. Feel like absolute shit right now. How could I be so stupid?
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It's 'cause we're wired to want to believe, by default, in the fucking honesty of others; when they fuck us over, it stains our psyches, not just our pockets. Fucking crooks!
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Good lookin out
true that #
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Would be nice if everyone abided by the Golden Rule..
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Yup, I believe that uroosa336 is a scammer now looking at his page..
He is currently on stealth mode with many, many whom FE..
I actually put an order in with him but he did not require me to FE because I am an established buyer, However he did cancel my order. Looking at all the heat on him now, I'm starting to put two and two together and I can see that his page is a scam
DO NOT BUY FROM: uroosa336
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thanks!
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Yeah uroosa336 got a whole lot of people on FE right now and more that are still FE.. Even with absolutely terrible 1 out of 5 reviews... He obviously was doing business with someone before to build up rep. Unless he has been using phantom accounts to build his own rep.. Man I wish somebody knew who he was and where he is located... I need to take a summer vacation..
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That's shitty...
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I was thinking the same. This forum account is new because I couldn't for the life of me remember my forum password. I placed an order with uroosa336 and they cancelled on me with no explanation. Since my buyer account is old with stellar stats, they probably assumed if wasn't worth the effort to try and get me to FE. An alarming # of people have fallen for it unfortunately. If you have FEd for uroosa336, say bye bye to your money and don't bother getting your hopes up looking for your shipment.
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Thanks for the info!
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I got nailed on the Scam with Enjoy The Coin my fault for sure. Here in the USA it's become imposable right now to buy BTC anonymously using cash. Until that gets worked out I guess I won't be shopping here after losing my money to an ass.
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thanks for this info !
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Just to ask my question once more, I know that any exchanges outside of escrow are not looked on kindly, so I have not given out my SR bitcoin address again via PM (and have changed it) but is your private SR address something that you have to keep private?
Surely only I can access my SR wallet when I sign in with my password? So other people that know the address cant touch my BTC even if they know the address? Right?
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sent bitcoins to my account at 4.10 today and still no sign of btc in my account why is it taking so long?
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Thanks for all the useful info!
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It really goes without saying that you shouldn't jump on a brand new vender selling coins for MP. I bookmarked Enjoy The Coin so that I could watch his operation but now I see I made the right judgement. Pick out the longer term vendors even if their percentage is higher than you would like. A lot of SR vendors sell their coins from here when they get an accumulation. Those are the ones to watch for but you have to be patient and wait, but always watch.
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Excellent points. I notice that on the wiki and to many vendors, an 'option' exists for whether or not you want to FE. Ignore this - NEVER FE! It's a safety feature. I don't care how much you like this person or how much free stuff that person has given you. There is no such thing as 100% trust here.
Perfectly said, if asked to FE, say no, if they cancel then it's shitty but not the end of the world, SR has enough vendors that you can just go elsewhere. Honestly, no excuse to FE.
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sent bitcoins to my account at 4.10 today and still no sign of btc in my account why is it taking so long?
It takes a certain number of network confirmations (I believe like ~50 or so?) before SR confirms the transfer of funds. You can look at how many confirmations you have so far by going to something like block chain. If your SR bitcoin address is 12345abcdefghij then go to
https://blockchain.info/address/12345abcdefghij
It should show you how many you have. Once you have 50 or so confirmations (at least it's been around 50 in my experience) the funds will show up in your SR account.
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I like localbitcoins for a lot of reasons and I've been exchanging there for quite some time. The escrow feature is nice and when doing an exchange the buyer is protected. I have to say though that waiting on people to release funds is the biggest problem. I've got thousands of dollars held up at any given moment but that's simply the nature of the beast. Getting an account on SilkRoad to market my BTC exchange services is a waste of money for the most part because it is only marketing and nothing more. Word of mouth is much better in my opinion because there is no need to hype myself up. If you are looking to get BTC then send me a message here. I accept Dwolla, Cash in the mail, MoneyPak, Vanilla Reload, Western Union, and a few others.
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WARNING TO ALL !!! ( BITCOINS ) THE VENDOR HAS TURNED SCAMMER
Was looking good for the vendor ( Bitcoins ) but now he has turned into a scammer , done me out of 150.00 and i noticed someone said they have been waiting a few days now as well.
Just a heads up, stay well clear !!
Take care
Forgot to add that he has been online every day that i have been sending him messages, but he isn't reading them, obviously he couldn't care what i have to say now that he has my money.
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After reading this forum, I decided to split my money up into 3 transactions in hopes of not getting scammed.
Here are the results (so far) -
CryptoKeeper - still waiting - been about 22 hrs
IrishDan - still waiting - been about 16 hrs
moneyhoney - totally legit - already got my coins
I will update this if anything changes -
I HOPE THIS HELPS SOME PEOPLE FROM GETTING SCAMMED !!!!
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After reading this forum, I decided to split my money up into 3 transactions in hopes of not getting scammed.
Here are the results (so far) -
CryptoKeeper - still waiting - been about 22 hrs
IrishDan - still waiting - been about 16 hrs
moneyhoney - totally legit - already got my coins
I will update this if anything changes -
I HOPE THIS HELPS SOME PEOPLE FROM GETTING SCAMMED !!!!
I swear I've been thinking the exact same thing mate, you can never be to safe and splitting the money into two or three transactions is a brilliant idea and well worth the extra time. Nobody thinks about doing things like this until after they have been scammed lol.
Use your head your feet are for dancing lol.
Down south...Ireland yeah? Im at the other neck of the woods lol.
Take care man
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i hate spamming.
Please do not spam in non-spam topics. There are plenty of "Spam to 50" threads already. This thread is to warn members about bitcoin scams.
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I tried using a MP with MrBuddha for 300.00 will be back to let ya know if they came through.
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I tried using a MP with MrBuddha for 300.00 will be back to let ya know if they came through.
Hey, thanks for the info. Would definitely appreciate an update. I was going to use this Vendor, but I didn't have enough for the minimum.
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I tried using a MP with MrBuddha for 300.00 will be back to let ya know if they came through.
Hey, thanks for the info. Would definitely appreciate an update. I was going to use this Vendor, but I didn't have enough for the minimum.
Did one with the vendor moneyhoney also. I will let you know how both turn out and total turnaround times.
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*** IMPORTANT UPDATE ***
Do not use OnionWallet (http://ow24et3tetp6tvmk.onion/)--it is a SCAM. I transferred a small amount of money in there and it was immediately stolen. The entire website, as legit as it looks, is bogus. After the theft occurred, I did some research and found out that this has happened to a lot of people.
*** OnionWallet is a SCAM ***
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I tried using a MP with MrBuddha for 300.00 will be back to let ya know if they came through.
Hey, thanks for the info. Would definitely appreciate an update. I was going to use this Vendor, but I didn't have enough for the minimum.
Did one with the vendor moneyhoney also. I will let you know how both turn out and total turnaround times.
I already got some coins with moneyhoney...they are legit.
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Thanks for info, but like anything in the world common sense is your best friend. If your dumb enough to check and then check again yor dumb enough to lose your money.
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*** IMPORTANT UPDATE ***
Do not use OnionWallet (http://ow24et3tetp6tvmk.onion/)--it is a SCAM. I transferred a small amount of money in there and it was immediately stolen. The entire website, as legit as it looks, is bogus. After the theft occurred, I did some research and found out that this has happened to a lot of people.
*** OnionWallet is a SCAM ***
Just curious as to why you would use OnionWallet and not a wallet with blockchain.info? You have to sign up with blockchain.info, but you can use any info, no verification is needed for just a wallet.
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Just curious as to why you would use OnionWallet and not a wallet with blockchain.info? You have to sign up with blockchain.info, but you can use any info, no verification is needed for just a wallet.
I have a wallet with blockchain.info as well as a few others. Basically, I've been experimenting for the last two days with different sites, services, exchanges, and methods of obtaining bitcoins. I should have been more careful and done my homework on OnionWallet. Since I was only tinkering, the amount I lost was insignificant. What can I say? I was careless.
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Just curious as to why you would use OnionWallet and not a wallet with blockchain.info? You have to sign up with blockchain.info, but you can use any info, no verification is needed for just a wallet.
I have a wallet with blockchain.info as well as a few others. Basically, I've been experimenting for the last two days with different sites, services, exchanges, and methods of obtaining bitcoins. I should have been more careful and done my homework on OnionWallet. Since I was only tinkering, the amount I lost was insignificant. What can I say? I was careless.
Understood. Guess you can chalk that one up to a lesson learned! :)
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thanks for this page!
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thank you very much.
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After reading this forum, I decided to split my money up into 3 transactions in hopes of not getting scammed.
Here are the results (so far) -
CryptoKeeper - still waiting - been about 22 hrs
IrishDan - still waiting - been about 16 hrs
moneyhoney - totally legit - already got my coins
I will update this if anything changes -
I HOPE THIS HELPS SOME PEOPLE FROM GETTING SCAMMED !!!!
**** UPDATED ****
CryptoKeeper - 2 days - did not receive coins - buyer cancelled order - BUT MP was never loaded - USE WITH CAUTION
IrishDan - vendor cancelled order (out of coins) - received message from vendor - SEEMS LEGIT - probably will try again in future
moneyhoney - totally legit - already got my coins
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I will slowly be putting up my service here, I'll make a thread as well so users can review.
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MrBuddha - 18Hrs=nothing but he says 12-48hrs in his listing
moneyhoney -havent heard a word yet ordered at 0425UTC
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MrBuddha - 18Hrs=nothing but he says 12-48hrs in his listing
moneyhoney -havent heard a word yet ordered at 0425UTC
Are you doing a MP? I did a Vanilla reload. This is from moneyhoney's listing -
"You can also send a Green Dot MoneyPak but processing could be slower and I prefer to phase them out soon"
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FYI....
I just did a MP with cheechdeals777 for $60 and he is totally legit. He is only doing MP's for $150 or less, but I got my coins really fast. It looks like a lot of Vendors are trying to get away from MP, so I decided to go ahead use this one up. Looks like I will be going with Vanilla from now on.
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MrBuddha - 18Hrs=nothing but he says 12-48hrs in his listing
moneyhoney -havent heard a word yet ordered at 0425UTC
Are you doing a MP? I did a Vanilla reload. This is from moneyhoney's listing -
"You can also send a Green Dot MoneyPak but processing could be slower and I prefer to phase them out soon"
yes MPs for both, as I said MrBuddha has been in contact so far for any question but hasnt made transfer. moneyhoney hasnt acknowledged my messages yet but I am optimistic, hopefully ill be spreading the word to use these 2 for BTC purchases when said and done. Im just posting to give updates for other buyers future reference.
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*** Avoid OnionWallet--it is a SCAM ***
Looking to buy & sell bitcoins? There's lots of options.
-- https://bitinstant.com/ -- Buy bitcoins, lots of options including MoneyGram. Fund Mt. Gox & other exchanges.
-- http://tradebitcoin.com/ -- Buy bitcoins with cash, in person, locally.
-- https://localbitcoins.com/ -- Buy bitcoins with cash, in person, locally.
-- https://coinbase.com/ -- Link your bank account and buy bitcoins online. Instant transfers after verification.
-- https://www.nanaimogold.com/ -- Similar to BitInstant. Use MoneyGram & Western Union to fund account.
-- https://virwox.com/ -- Currency exchange, eWallet. Lots of options for funding account (buying BTC).
No matter what you do, you lose some or all of your anonymity when buying coins; therefore, you should "launder" them.
Here are some sites to route your coins through before depositing them at Silk Road:
-- https://mtgox.com/ -- Currency exchange, eWallet
-- https://blockchain.info/ -- Anonymous eWallet
-- https://easywallet.org/ -- Anonymous eWallet
-- http://www.bitcoinfog.com/ -- Launders bitcoins.
BitInstant, with or without Mt. Gox, is a breeze. Just send a MoneyGram from Wal-Mart or another retailer. You can also link your bank account. Unfortunately, the site is temporarily down as they make some improvements.
https://localbitcoins.com/ is perhaps the easiest method for obtaining bitcoins. Find someone near you, meet them, pay cash for BTC. I bought some yesterday and it was fast and hassle-free.
After purchasing your bitcoins through BitInstant or wherever, I suggest sending them through Bitcoin Fog and then to BlockChain and EasyWallet; from there, send them to Silk Road. Also, don't forget to get a new SR bitcoin address for every transaction. Chances are slim that anyone would be paying attention, but why take a chance? Recently, an SR vendor was busted and had his coins confiscated because authorities were able to trace his transactions.
--Dr. Jay
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if ya need help hmu!! im batman when it comes to this SHIT!!! you aint never seen me and batman in the same room right? your future response is invalid.
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There are lots of really creative scams for Bitcoin. One might think they'd make some cash if they dedicated their efforts at legitimate, if illegal business.
Indeed.
Many frauds and con artists like this spend more time and energy on conning people that they would have spent if they conducted legitimate, if illegal, business with consenting peers.
It's rather annoying, if funny in a way.
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yeh thanks for the info ive been trying to look on where to get bitcoins from and still not sure whats ligit.
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FYI....
I just did a MP with cheechdeals777 for $60 and he is totally legit. He is only doing MP's for $150 or less, but I got my coins really fast. It looks like a lot of Vendors are trying to get away from MP, so I decided to go ahead use this one up. Looks like I will be going with Vanilla from now on.
I used cheechdeals777 this weekend (Sunday). Needed the Bitcoins fast. Told him so in a message. I had a reply back AND the Bitcoins for my MoneyPak in like less than an hour. He really came through for me and really saved my ass. I can't say enough good things about this guy. He's got a customer for life in me!!!
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Is GGATZ a scammer? He claims to provide fast bitcoin services, however it has been 5 days since I gave him my MP and IO have received nothing, including answers to my emails.
His home page claims all coin is paid out inside of 4 days. The listing I purchased says the coin is paid out in 10 minutes. It has been over 4 days and nothing.
I also noticed that their has been no increas in GGatz's feedback. This is unusual for someone who claims on his review thread that he is very busy right now. Also my listing is still in "processing" mode, which means I cannot leave feedback.
Has anyone received coin from GGatz recently?
Is this what happens after Vendors receive their bond back after $1,500 in sales?
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GGatz. Avoid! See thread here:
dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=188775.0
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GGatz got his vendor bond back and ran. Scumbag -check out his posts- I sent my MP around the time he posted about getting his bond.
See here
http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=188773.msg1365018#msg1365018
His vendor account should be closed ASAP. I have reported him but did not get a response.
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UPDATE
MrBuddha - Legit, he answered all my messages almost immediately, moneypak to BTCs in almost exactly at the 48hrs as his listing says. Good man!!
moneyhoney - Legit had BTCs in 48hrs. didnt get response to messages but vendor states right in listing messages may not be answered. Good Vendor.
For all of you noobs or veterans that hate the hassle of getting BTCs go use these vendors!
Real review not a prop for a scam! I might also mention my buyer account had no history, would of been the easiest to rip off. Some vendors do care about their rep, especially these 2! Much appreciated guys, and I hope my reviews will help some of you.
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Bloody spammers with their bitcoin offers!
I logged on to review a couple of items but found 3 pages plus full of spam from the usual beggars and scoundrals.
But, I would disagree that there is no return on this continous scam. Check out the clearnet cop magnet drug markets, they are being deluged with conmen and women.
Surely Nigeria has discovered bitcoins, so for them, even spending a 60 hour week just spamming on all the darknet markets, plus clearnet, it must be bringing in a steady trickle of dollars for them.
The Russians also.
In fact, name any nation, there are conmen and women who will exploit any oppertunity to seperate you from your money!
As for vendors here, I'd be very cautious if I had to buy btc that way. Best choose those with proven track records.
And to all you spammers on here. You are NOT traders, you are thieves and parasites. Go take a long hike hopefully ending at the edge of a cliff.
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My problem is Im from australia and most people selling H or other things online here want people to FE first my other option is to go outside of AUS but then customs is a problem. Also I can't believe that in europe and the states you can get grams of h for 100-80 bucks when the aussie dollar is going higher than the u.s dollar but over here 150-300 for gear and doing the math with some vendors double that like 5.6000 for a gram 100bucks a coin 560 or so bucks for something thats in the states for 2 bit coins and we are close to the golden triangle before the year 2000 in the 90's you could get a point for 30bucks a half weight for hundred or so and it was 80% pure or higher but the cartels have released plenty of gear into aus but dealers keep users strung by the balls we need a flood in this country to bring things down just speaking my mind Im not talking about small time dealers I mean the ones who deal in thousands and thousands of kgs of the shit. Most vendors here seem nice and I look forward to trying product from some :) anyone else like to comment?
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just tried out mrBuddha for some coin about 30 hrs ago and nothing yet will update....new to the forums but NOT new to SR at all, will update when something happens
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I did Mrbuddha 3 hours ago we'll see how fast he goes and if he even does it. I will update on Mrbuddha forsure.
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I did Mrbuddha 3 hours ago we'll see how fast he goes and if he even does it. I will update on Mrbuddha forsure.
let me know what happens on your end cause his feedback is starting to scare me as well as i have been waiting over 55 Hrs and responses are at a standstill and i havent received anything yet in the prescribed timelines
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mrbuddha scam!!!! DO NOT PLACE AN ORDER WITH THAT BITCH!!! I never FE and took the risk of moneypak-->Bitcoin (which is ALL buyer risk). I hope someone just did a forum search with his name and found this. He processed transactions like a legitimate bitcoin trader, but since last weekend he began his scam. That is why he is currently at (100) on stats, to fleece as many unsuspecting buyers as possible for as long as possible. Im part of the first wave of scammed (my first time). Im glad it was for $700 and not $7,000 that a certain vendor/forum hero member just experienced.
YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED!!!
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MRBUDDHA JUST SCAMMED ME OUT OF A BUNCH OF MPS AND THAN CANCELED MY ORDER AFTER HIS MESSAGES ABOUT HIS FAMILY DO NOT USE HIM HE WILL FUCK YOU OVER HIS 1/5 RATINGS ON HIS VENDOR PAGE ARE THE ONLY LEGIT ONES. FUCK THIS DUDE AND HIS FAMILY I WISH THE WORST UPON BOTH OF THEM
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orders are being canceled(to avoid feedback). All listings have been removed. I hope this dick-biters mother gets raped!!!
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Got me too. I think he's gone anyway, but please make sure to report him so he gets kicked off SR.
Won't do much good for us that have already been scammed though.
What a coward.
Everything comes around one day....
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http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=189864.0 <----- thread to mrBuddha scam and very angry customers BEWARE...other recent scammers i have heard of today GGATZ and BrianMcgee multiple times have come up in scam reports and im also wary about cryptokeeper
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Very sorry to hear about everyone getting scammed. I have now had 2 buyers email me this am about being scammed by mrbuddha. He offered nearly no fees for btc exchange - and no fees for cash in the mail to vendors. I immediately thought this was a scam as there are fees involved in doing any type of business. I am very sorry for everyone's loss - this is just not right. Be wary of anything that seems too good to be true.
As a vendor, I have used freedomfinancial to cash out coins and referred over 10 buyers to them. They have always done right by our buyers.
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Very sorry to hear about everyone getting scammed. I have now had 2 buyers email me this am about being scammed by mrbuddha. He offered nearly no fees for btc exchange - and no fees for cash in the mail to vendors. I immediately thought this was a scam as there are fees involved in doing any type of business. I am very sorry for everyone's loss - this is just not right. Be wary of anything that seems too good to be true.
As a vendor, I have used freedomfinancial to cash out coins and referred over 10 buyers to them. They have always done right by our buyers.
so you had success with him?? i just get nervous cause again a coin vendor less than a month with less than 300 trans ...i mean i have been scammed before but mrBuddha got me good with constant communication atleast Brian Mcgee and BTCwithinminutes other scammers of mine just didnt answer anymore so i knew i was screwed. for right now until alot of people start posting forum threads about freedomfiancial im going to go with what works BTCking...who recently is back online and running...and JMB ... i cant risk getting screwed anymore, but im interested in knowing any reliable vendors you do know and have used multiple times cause i want to scope them out to be on the safe side...
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I am a new buyer here with just a few smallish transactions so far. I FE'd my first 2 small buys as I was willing to risk the cash after checking out the vendors. I figured it was a reasonable expectation of the vendor asking me to FE considering I had not made any and then only one buy on SR. Someone has to get the trust ball rolling and I needed them more than they needed me I figured.
Now I have a few transactions under my belt and my first decent ($480) buy without FE'ing which I finalized as soon as it arrived, I feel confident vendors will let me keep funds in escrow until product arrives now if they look at my buyer stats. My rule is to finalize the same day it is received, usually after sampling if possible. If a vendor insists on FE then I will keep searching for another buyer. I believe I have proven myself trustworthy enough to not justifying FE'ing
When I discover a vendor who provides quality I'm happy with & suitable stealth I plan to stick with them and keep them happy by finalizing as soon as it arrives and is sampled, hopefully that will translate into a good relationship resulting in becoming a "trusted buyer" in their eyes and hopefully the perks that come with that.
I havent made any OS buys yet but hopefully I can find a good one who will let me keep funds in escrow, if not, I will be thoroughly researching that vendor before making a sample buy.
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I did Mrbuddha 3 hours ago we'll see how fast he goes and if he even does it. I will update on Mrbuddha forsure.
He scammed someone for $7,000.00 don't think youll see your money.
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ANYONE WHO GOT SCREWED BY MRBUDDHA CALL MP # ON THE BACK OF CARD(800 473 3636) AND PUT IN A CLAIM.....DO NOT LET THEM KNOW THAT YOU WERE SCAMMED.....EXPLAIN THAT YOU TRIED TO LOAD INTO PAYPAL ACCT AND IT JUST SHOWED UP AS ZERO BALANCE...( I WOULD RECOMMEND SOME FAILED ATTEMPTS FIRST ) ....DO NOT TELL THAT U GAVE YOUR MP # AWAY......THEY WILL START A CLAIM FOR YOU AND ASK THAT YOU FAX OVER THE RECEIPT AND MP# ......RESOLUTIONS TAKE LIKE 10 BUSINESS DAYS AFTER....HOPEFULLY ALL OF HIS ACCTS GET FROZEN.......I PUT IN A CLAIM TODAY.....FAGGOT STOLE $2000 FROM ME
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https://localbitcoins.com/ is a good place for buying or selling bitcoins. Never had a problem there.
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good lookin out
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thanks for the heads up
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This is my first post, that is great info. I signed up with Mt Gox, it took 5 days to get verified, 10 days for my money to post to my account and a $40 charge to international wire transfer to Tokyo. I placed 2 orders without PGP security (kind of worried about that) and 1 order stated that being a newbie I have to FE. Both orders say "processing", I haven't found where to FE. I really like these forums!
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Hi, I'm brand new. I haven't attempted ordering yet, as the Bitcoin system is confusing to me & I'm not great with math. Are vendors going to make me finalize early, or refuse to sell to me? Also can anyone give me a rough approximate of what the US/Bitcoin exchange rate is right now? It looks to be aprox. $100 USD to 1 Bitcoin?
Thanks in advance!
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just wanted to say bitcoinmerchant the one listed on gotsitall page really is legit and fast as well as very friendly and easy to work with.
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I have had great success in the past and present with buying Bitcoins and transferring them to Silk Road, so im lucky I haven't had to deal with any scams unlike many others probably have.
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Great thread.
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ordered: July 20, 2013, 1:59 am UTC
shipped: July 22, 2013, 2:45 am UTC
finalized: July 22, 2013, 8:39 pm UTC
That was from a transaction I did with MrBuddha.
Sorry to hear he fucked everyone over.....I also (after making BTC purchase) noticed his fees were odd.....But I paid 10% which wasnt awesome by any means.....I only did 300.00 though.
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OK so this is off topic but can someone please tell me how you register for the actual site HELP PLEASE!!!
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stick to common sense and you will be fine
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OK so this is off topic but can someone please tell me how you register for the actual site HELP PLEASE!!!
>silk road login page
>click "click here to join"
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Thanks for the warning. I currently use coinbase. Does anyone have any feedback on them? Having a hard time right now getting my transactions to go through with them. Very frustrating when I'm trying to get it figured out to order. UGH!
Ryno
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This is really a big problem. Never deal with Brian McGee-he scammed me out of $300. Best way around it is to use the suggested process.
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Add block chain wallet to that list-please see my other threads as to what they have been doing to me. They have been hold 84.00 PLUS dollars from me and not allowing me to touch it since mid June. They don't answer help requests-give crap phone numbers to call for help etc. I have never had any issues with them until now. Highly irate. Just a warning to all of you =(
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Blockchain wallet has behaved for me so far, if it goes awry I'll also post here about it. Good general heads up from the whole thread though.
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But what about all these vendors that require new buyers to FE?
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as long as you stay in escrow you are safe ... a rule i learn t since i joined this place ( NEVER FE EARLY )
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Only FE early is you plan on giving away your coins for free.
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So apparently a story about Vice City Bank...
It sounds like this dude pulls a bunch of shit and then suspends service for awhile and does the same thing after a bit.
I think there's a fool-proof part of this plan. If I plan to offer 10 bitcoins for 4 moneypacks and process 3 of them I could steal the 4th one and just simply cancel the order preventing recourse from the buyer. Especially on these accounts used only for "banking" services; why wouldn't a scammer have 100% doing it this way?
Re: New Review of Vice City Bank! Instant MP for BTC Service
« Reply #14 on: July 02, 2013, 01:15 pm »
Quote from: nanpa2001 on April 15, 2013, 08:19 am
I can't comment on the services of Vice City Bank, but MP to bitcoin transactions are inherently easy to scam.
Anyone that makes this kind of transaction should realize that if anything goes wrong, it is 100% on them.
I was right again. Looks like it is becoming a habit.
http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/user/2343ffa65c
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It is very unfortunate what happened to Vice City Bank.
All of my customers funds are FROZEN right now including several thousands of my own over several anonymous bank accounts. (I cant even pay my bills right now because of this problem)
To make a long story short I can't get the money out of my anonymous bank accounts.
I am going to try to recover as much of the funds I owe my customers as much as possible.
All of your funds are accounted for. Whenever I can I will be sending partial amounts.
I will try to replace at least 25% of the lost funds and hopefully 100% of the lost funds over the next year.
This will take awhile and I am not promising anything. I will message the people I owe when I have partial payments for them.
If you don't believe me then fuck it. If you want my death for the unfortunate events that were out of my control that took Vice City Bank to its grave then please hunt me down and take my head. I'm tried of the bullshit in life myself.
Good Bye Silk Road.
I'll come back every once in awhile to check my messages and to give updates on the partial amounts I'm sending out.
Nanpa2001 = Silk Road prophet.
I believe this is what happened to me. I just happened to be picked sucker.
shinobidragon Man its a little unnerving to hand someone $300 and then not hear from them for 24 hours. 23 hours unread
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shinobidragon ? 1 day unread
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shinobidragon . . . 1 day read
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shinobidragon Good deal. 2 days read
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Vice City Bank(100) yes I managed to cash it just now. However, im waiting for some coins on an offline wallet to hit my account.
im at 1 confirmations right now.
Im going to dinner and will send them once im back. i should have the 6 confirmations by then and will send
them to your account. 2 days read
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shinobidragon Everything go okay with the transfer? 2 days read
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shinobidragon I really appreciate the exception. Lifesaver! 3 days read
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Vice City Bank(100) cool 3 days read
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shinobidragon Thanks! I'll be going to Walmart soon then. =) 3 days read
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Vice City Bank(100) well sure why not? go ahead and send your order 3 days read
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shinobidragon Is there any chance at all I could send you a $300 moneypack instead of $400?
Cashed my moneypack, sent no bitcoin, and canceled my order without a word.
I think the very lest us buyers could do is force these type of sellers to mark a $0 item "In Transit" before handing over the moneypack number.
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All good info here. Thanks!
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Well that vendor was shut down for bitcoin exchange scamming.
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yea Vice City Bank is a scammer 100% I try not to be in other peoples businesses but he took a good person I know for money and I dont like that shit. If anyone needs bitcoins I am open for business no bullshit I have them in my account right now. I can accept cash in the mail, vannilla reload, reloadit, moneypak, WU, bank transfer, moneypak, and netspend usually.
Currently I can only accept payment using WU or direct bank transfer I offer great rates and im fast. Im online at least a dozen times a day. I didnt use the forum at all until recently. However, I have been a vendor for 1 year and I have almost 200 transactions.
I also accept vendor cash outs and I dont charge any fees to vendors selling thier coins. However, at this time I cannot accept any more bitcoins as I have alot.
In a few days ill be up strong and able to process many many reloads of all kinds. But until then bank transfers at bank of america are fast easy anonymous and I charge very low fees.
Were you in jail?
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THANK YOU!!
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buying bitcoins was easy through bitinstant..then I found a local bitcoin dealer(only 1 in our town on upper left coast)
now I cant use either, and I am having a hell of a time trying to buy them on SR. prepaid, reloadable, gave someone
$400 for some today..Not a word. Help!!! Thanks
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I prefer to purchase via bank transfer (though BTCKing is currently not listing). Anyone use OKPay to exchange with an online vendor at localbitcoins.com - if so, how does OKPay work? Thank you
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1. Dude, just find an online seller of bitcoins from localbitcoin.com
2. Choose a vendor that accepts cash deposit via bank.
3. Send them the amount. Then funds are placed in your localbitcoin wallet in 5 minutes tops!
Easy as 1,2,3
p.s. it really is that simple!
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I've been using coinbase.com with some success. They cancelled a big bitcoin purchase (under their limits) for me when the bitcoins increased in value a lot during the waiting period. But since then I have verified my info and now have instant bitcoins.
downsides: linking bank account, waiting period if you don't verify info, "security" cancellations
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I got nailed on the Scam with Enjoy The Coin my fault for sure. Here in the USA it's become imposable right now to buy BTC anonymously using cash. Until that gets worked out I guess I won't be shopping here after losing my money to an ass -- I have no penis.
Have you tried local bitcoins?
Have you talked to a medical professional?
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localbitcoin.com seems down right now - will have to wait...
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hey t1b0 was thinking about both localbitcoins and coinbase, so what is this about coinbase and their "don't verify info", what "info" is that and how long they make you wait to release coin? ty
i will do a search while waiting for feedyack
Ding! Why not both? A person could Have legal purchases made directly through a coinbase account and the localbitcoins account will be for da fixins. 8) :P :P ;D ;) how Does that sound ~?
I've been using coinbase.com with some success. They cancelled a big bitcoin purchase (under their limits) for me when the bitcoins increased in value a lot during the waiting period. But since then I have verified my info and now have instant bitcoins.
downsides: linking bank account, waiting period if you don't verify info, "security" cancellations
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I initially used bitstamp but now use bitbargain.co.uk meaning I can get BTC in a very short space of time.
Rather than put it in my PC's wallet I simply directed it to the address on SR and 20 minutes later or so it showed up.
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50btc for $2850 WISH it was
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How risky is it to use a service like btcquick to buy BC using a CC. They claim not to keep any information on file, but who knows how true that is? All I know is that I can go from buying BC on btcq.com to having them in my blockchain wallet to having them in my SR wallet all within 2 hours, no trips to CVS, no nervous anticipation-it's fuckin sweet.
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great thread, got to love the community here. ;D im waiting on coinbase so ican make my first purchase with Aidoneus. it's so fucking frustrating to wait for a week for my btc. i could be rolling now! anyone have a good reliable instant extange to recommend?
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love the people on here straight to the point and always helpful that how it should Be
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If you still have the original money pak and receipt you can call Greendot and tell them you didn't giv the number to anyone but you've been unable to use it. You have to talk to a supervisor and fax them the (gotfreefax.com) proof of purchase. I'm not sure if they'll be giving my money back (sounds like its a one time thing if they do) or not but I'll update this either way.
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And I would like to add, that since there isn't really any way to keep the endless throngs of thieves from popping up under different usernames and taking customer's moneypaks - at the very least try to always do the following when ordering BTC with a green dot moneypak:
Make certain that you place an ORDER thru the seller's ad (and do NOT send the MP with the order)
Ask them to FINALIZE before you give them the MP number. That way you are at least guaranteed feedback rights.
What really bothers me is the fact that a lot of fake coin vendors are cancelling people's orders and stealing the money off their moneypaks, avoiding negative feedback from the customer, and keep their scam going WAY longer than it should.
Also, PLEASE report any theft to SR admin as soon as it happens! And post it on the boards!
This will keep SR a little safer, and may save others from getting taken for their hard-earned money!
- BTCpal
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Don't let this happen to you...
-Victim
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Great topic. For a new user on Silk Road, being aware of these types of scams is invaluable!
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reporting a few experiences from the last year:
originally bitinstant was the shit becuase of ease of use and anonymity but they've tightened their policies so no go
blueskytraders are excellent but they are on hiatus and have been for what seems like a while but keep an eye out
jumbomonkeybicuits seems like the real deal after some dealings -- it's always a bit nerve wracking to send cashmoney in the mail though
localbitcoins seems like a great option but havent yet had the opportunity myself
good bitcoin hunting!
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Buy my Bitcoins from BenzoKing hes the man coins in 15 minutes via Moneypak. And low fees 8)
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Hey there.
Since I'm stuck in this forum I thought I'd share:
I've had almost 20 SR transactions and they were ALL great but one. And guess what? That was the only one to ask me to Finalize Early.
The other 19 were all flawless.
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Anyone have any insight on a good online seller with bank deposit via localbitcoins.com
Bitabond has never done me wrong. Dude is legit.
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Anyone knows something about the seller "bitcoins"? I have purchased from him a few times with no problem but this time i sent him a lot of money and he is not answering my messages any more, and i know my money arrived to him 3 days ago cos i sent it with tracking. I trust this vendor but lately there is some people reporting also this kind of activity from this seller, and others claiming it to be a scam (see the review of his products)... should i worry?
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NEVER FE!! Finalizing Early has made many people have a bad day! Dont get scammed, play it safe. There are enough legit vendors on the road to not have to deal with scammers!
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Thank you for the insight.
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Great info!
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good stuff
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Anyone have any info on SubSConnect?
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Is there an easy way to find vendor who don't require FE for new users?
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Just to add some delicious. smooth and creamy icing to the already "thick as thieves" MoneyPak to BTC scammer cake found here lately... There's nothing to keep a scammer from creating a separate account on The Road and telling the world on here how wonderful they are at converting your MoneyPak to BTC and then ripping you off when you believe the fake review from the two-faced, sociopathic, back-stabbing, lying scammer... Just saying boys and girls... Play safe... :( I messaged a vendor I dealt with before and trusted and asked them who they would recommend... Worked for me... Just trying to make The Road a safer place to travel... Peace!
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I just can't see how it's worth ripping me off for $150 bucks and losing that vendor profile.
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Subsconnect was banned as a bitcoin exchange scammer.
http://www.topix.com/forum/drug/duragesic/T7GTKO82AGFVQFKN8?redirid=1375931468
It is possible to get a refund for sure. And it screws with the scammers bank accounts too.
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where are all the good H vendors? only clowns out there now, most asking for FE, and taking there sweet ass time replying and shipping im so sick of it im about to give up on SR.
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where are all the good H vendors? only clowns out there now, most asking for FE, and taking there sweet ass time replying and shipping im so sick of it im about to give up on SR.
hahah,, always hard for n00bs m8, why not try a pal whos got a better feedback and get him to order then no FE, OR order loads of little shit, get ur rep up then u dont have to FE, err on the side of caution i bet u do get load of ripping of buggers
and fuk H go for the pure opium
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Thank you all for your input. Hopefully, we all know not to use PayPal. ;)
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Do buy BitCoins on the SR....period....
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People are too shady nowadays'. This is my second account. My last account was compromised along with all my BTC's.... Now I have to start from scratch & can't put any money in here until Monday. If anyone would throw me a little something here and there it would be much appreciated. Fucking hate this "bum" stuff.
My names DigitalSS on SR. Same on here
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Hey just wanted to let SR know that it looks like BenzoKing is a btc scammer/ : I have ben a custi on the road for a lil while but never really left anything in the forums, just made a account to tell everyone to beware of BenzoKing, he used to be a decent vender in pills but lately has had listings for btc at a low rate, also had good recent reviews and rating. When I go to click on his SR name it goes straight to sending messages and cant find his vender page, plus hasnt responded in 2 days. Fuck
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BENZOKING IS A SCAMMER!!! STOLE 650.00 from me and more from coutless others!
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Benzo confirmed scammer
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guys. it's really simple. localbitcoins.com. Either a face to face transaction, or some sort of escrowed transaction. I am a member of localbitcoins.com and SR, and if you want to buy a bitcoin, pm me, i'll walk you through it, sell you one if you like, and at market value. My username here is not my username on sr....I have been around since june 2011, so i'm only going to do this for a select few, as I have only a couple btc available. First come, first serve. And to protect your privacy, i'll send you half on local btc and half on SR user to user. That will also eliminate the fees SR charges you from getting them uploaded. All transactions are instantaneous.
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Anyone here had trouble with sukey for delivery ?
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Great info, thanks for sharing
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Thanks for the info
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I Love When They Try And Scam U Wow Get A Life
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waiting for some coins through a sr transaction from btcpal. he said he got my deposit and was sending the btc almost 2 hours ago and I havent received them yet and he hasnt opened a message i sent him after that. and also didnt mark the btc listing i bought in transit so i cannot leave any feedback. just want to ask here if anyone has had good transactions with him lately before i start getting worried.
first time using him. used jumbomonkeybiscuit before without problems. btcpal's low fees are what attracted me.
anyone have good luck with btcpal lately?
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I have been talking to him back and forth about making a deposit tomorrow in a B of A bank... but if you dont get your coins soon i may change my mind about using him. I used JMB and he was awesome! but duwe to some recent issues hwe is unavailable at this time to make any transactions. if anyone has any info on BTCpal please speak up. i dont want to lose money to anyone. plus if anyone knows of any RELIABLE way to get btc please let me know.
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localbitcoins.com all day! 8)
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Yes good advice
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I have Been Trying to do a Transaction for BTC and the seller wanted me to put the info from the reloadit card in the viaPM box to save me the 15% charge they charge can yo tell me if i have already sent the card number under the correct processing order for and still have no go any responce what should i do and it still says processing i need to have a little help with how to get this person to send me my BTC without giving the card number viaPM they told me if i dont viaPM the card number then i will get nothing so please help asap
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waiting for some coins through a sr transaction from btcpal. he said he got my deposit and was sending the btc almost 2 hours ago and I havent received them yet and he hasnt opened a message i sent him after that. and also didnt mark the btc listing i bought in transit so i cannot leave any feedback. just want to ask here if anyone has had good transactions with him lately before i start getting worried.
first time using him. used jumbomonkeybiscuit before without problems. btcpal's low fees are what attracted me.
anyone have good luck with btcpal lately?
i did get my coins, BTCpal is professional and trustworthy. took a few hours but with his low fees i understand he can be quite busy.
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thank you
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At first, getting bitcoins can seem like a daunting task--it isn't. Follow these instructions:
-- To start, open a throwaway account with Mt. Gox at https://mtgox.com/. No need to verify this account unless you're gonna be trading big money.
-- Go to "funding options/add funds"
-- Use the drop-down menu to select "BitInstant," which will give you instructions and your account number.
-- Go to BitInstant at https://www.bitinstant.com/
-- The reason you need a Mt. Gox account is that BitInstant doesn't sell bitcoins; you must trade for them at Mt. Gox. BitInstant allows you to immediately fund your Mt. Gox account so you can start trading.
-- Use the drop-down menu to select "cash deposit" and choose a local retailer, such as Wal-Mart or CVS.
-- Fill in your info and you will download a .pdf file with information for filling out a blue MoneyGram slip at Wal-Mart. Basically, you're "paying a bill" to ZipZap, Inc. and you will be entering their four-digit receive code and account number on the form. Use your real name, address, etc. on the MoneyGram. It doesn't matter, since everything will be laundered and untraceable by the time it gets to Silk Road. Use fake info for your Mt. Gox account, although I don't think it matters. Some people use fake names on the MoneyGram. I guess it doesn't make any difference, since they don't require ID. I used my real info because I was afraid of the transaction being flagged or cancelled.
-- Go to your local retailer, fill out the MoneyGram with the info provided from BitInstant, and pay for it with cash. There is a $3.95 fee.
-- You money will appear in your Mt. Gox account within 4 minutes--1 hour at the most (never takes that long).
-- Use the "trade" button to buy bitcoins.
-- Go to "funding options/withdraw" and use the drop-down menu to select "bitcoins" as your currency. Enter the amount and bitcoin address from Silk Road (find that on your SR account page--looks like this: 1GDGgeTfNrxdhmJokSP7EqVRZGXSFuSnfp)
-- If you have 5.67 bitcoins with Mt. Gox, transfer 5.66 to cover the transaction fee. Select the option for faster transfer (0.005 BTC).
-- It may take several hours for your bitcoins to show up, but they will. Once they are in your SR wallet, you're ready to order.
I hope this helps. This is the fastest, most reliable way that I've found to get bitcoins. If you bank with a major financial institution, you also have the option of transfering funds directly to BitInstant. While this doesn't involve leaving the house and taking out cash, I'm not sure if it's any slower than using a MoneyGram. One drawback to this method is that you have to provide BitInstant with your banking username and password (scary!) BitInstant is reputable, but that is just information that I don't want to release.
Let me know if you have questions or problems. I discovered Silk Road less than two weeks ago and spent an evening teaching myself all about Tor browsers, bitcoins, PGP, and everything else. It takes some doing, but it is worth it. Read the feedback, forums, encrypt your address, and don't FE. (Download Portable PGP at http://ppgp.sourceforge.net/, which has a very user-friendly interface.) While address encryption is not strictly necessary, it adds an extra layer of security to your purchase. I've had three flawless transactions and I couldn't be happier.
Has this changed since the original post was in January? I read in several places that Mt. Gox is baaaaaaaad and not to use it. I'm not trying to doubt you or whatnot, I am just new and trying to understand and stay safe at the same time. ;) Thanks for any feedback.
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Do not use easycoins it is a SCAM.
Localbitcoins and buy in cash is the best way to get annonymous coins.
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JustSmuggledN is ripping people off/ he is shorting people. he shorted me one gram. BUYER BEWARE. NEVER FE
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JustSmuggledN is ripping people off/ he is shorting people. he shorted me one gram. BUYER BEWARE. NEVER FE
sry for offtopic
send a msg and find the proper topic and reply there. cheers
ontopic:
localbitcoins is good place to buy btc or try bitcointalk using escrow.
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Thanks for the heads up!
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SmartCoin and ThaMiddleMan are good to buy coins off of on the road.
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tnx
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Last night I bought coins and spent 1500 via Paypal on this site http://www.[CENSORED: spam link].com/ NO communications, no emails, no money.. Anybody knows them?
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Is there a list of legit bitcoin brokers? I need info on how and where to setup a bitcoin account. Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks!
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Here's my experience w/bitcoin purchasing so far. First I signed up for coinbase.com and gave them way more financial information then I was comfortable with, like my username and password for my online bank account in order to maybe be allowed to get coins- after placing an order- the first time it worked. The second time I waited four business days to have my order cancelled at the last minute for some unknown reason.
Personally, if your just buying a relatively small amount of bitcoins, say under $500 worth, I think you're much better off doing your research and buying from a legitimate seller on SR. I can personally vouch for BTC Boss. He was ridiculously fast back when he was still accepting moneypaks. He's def a trustworthy professional. Cheechdeals777 is still accepting moneypaks but only for under $250 worth..but he was super fast and nice too. There are definitely some good BTC vendors out there at any given time. They tend to come, go, reappear again pretty quickly from what I can tell. Just carefully do your research. Look at the feedback, the item page, and the sellers page carefully and really read what it says. I've made the mistake of ordering too quickly before and luckily I didn't loose my money but I did waste more time then I was willing to spend waiting and ultimately cancelled the order anyway.
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It can be difficult, i think everyone of us has lost a moneypak to somone like brianmcgee or mrbudda, I did find an external site moneypaktrader.com that so far is legit, they proccessed a 200 pak in a few hours. I really wish SR or DPR himself would sponsor a legit coinvendor as it is always a nerve racking experience waiting on somone who has your money in their hands.
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Yeah, I always wonder why SR doesn't try to make it easier to get bitcoins by sponsoring vendors or just selling off some of their own through SR at times when they're especially hard to come by. I'm sure that I don't understand all this as well as they do but it seems like there must be something they could do to make it easier to get bitcoins and that it would be to everyone's advantage!
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I was going to use bit Instant but they been rebuilding their site for some time and they are in NY and I am on left coast. I investigated MTGOX but they are based in japan and but the big appeal for dealing with them is they have a huge base (over 50% of all USA bit coins) so when there is a small-med sell off their price doesn't drop so rapidly.... But they only take deposits from a limited few choices..and the bank transfer option is waaaay too much imo. I finally went for Coin Base out of San Francisco...I saw their booth at the San Jose Bit coin conference and they are very good. Until you make it past the 30 day mark and had no problems they hold bit coin for 4 business days before you can send out but once you pass the 30 day mark and had successfully funded without a reversal then you can instantly buy up to 50 bit coins a day ready for immediate routing to your favorite venue. coinbase.com
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wot abot bitcoinspin.com is that a scam i lost 0.02 bc ther hahaha
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As a new member I've been careful to read profiles and messages vendors most of the time to introduce myself. I've never been asked to FE. I've asked a few no sales do to them not putting it in to transit drgreenfingers13 let me down with no comms or message on his profile not a problem. Oh and sonicdrone whos comms was rubbish either he was OD'd pinched by the cops or anything but i wanted to know why this apparent lsd was not doing anything. i need to go by the avengers word. next time when it coes to lsd kitten huffer again or maybe fart bomber ive heard good things about the vendor.
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BitcoinDeal is a top quality vendor for bitcoins. It takes him a few days to get the coins to you but hes been over loaded. He is in stealth mod at the moment but if you PM me I will forward your information to him and have him get in touch with you asap.
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Anyone know of any reputable bitcoin sellers in Australia? Is getbitcoin.com.au any good?
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Why don't they ban scammer's sooner :o That whole Planet Express scam could of been nipped in the bud with in the first 24 hours.
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Why don't they ban scammer's sooner :o That whole Planet Express scam could of been nipped in the bud with in the first 24 hours.
You need to be banned for running your mouth when you have no idea what your talking about
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Why don't they ban scammer's sooner :o That whole Planet Express scam could of been nipped in the bud with in the first 24 hours.
You need to be banned for running your mouth when you have no idea what your talking about
You need to shut up, worthless words coming from a numb-skull.
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Hold on, I'm not quite getting something. Who should I use for escro?
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Fuck off nosey that be 48
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whats the point to never do FE? Bits will still auto F after 21 days(as i remember). its just the time which the scammer needs to wait
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thx 4 sharin scout
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I just transferred my FIRST batch of bitcoin to my SR wallet from coinbase. The transfer completed on coinbase over an hour ago. As long as I sent it to the address on my SR account page, there is nothing to worry about right?
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I feel as though this should include various sites that may cause problems with your BTC.
For example, I know many people that have tried using BlockChain as their BTC wallet that have gotten their money lost in the transactions, far more then other server based wallets.
Just a personal suggestion.
This forum, along with the other warning forums, are much appreciated.
:)
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thanks
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has anyone had problems with their bitcoins lately, i have withdrawn 2 on 23rd aug and then 1.3 on 27/8 both of which have not turned up at the nominated address? Is there a way to track this , Ive mailed support but at present have had no reply.
Any help would be greatly appreciated
B 8)
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Hi scout,
Thanks for the info.
Cheers
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Thanks for the info
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thanks for the few tips
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I was going to do a transaction this week using Blockchain as my online wallet, but after DrPottz warning I'm feeling paranoid about losing my BTC. Does anyone know of a good reliable online wallet?
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tnx for heads up
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Thanks for the info!
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great thread helping the newb's like myself, many thanks
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Thanks for sharing
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being a noobie here this has been a very interesting and helpful thread. thank you.
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Great thread, so much information!!
I think after reading all that Im going try via localbitcoin>blockchain>sr
From what I can see even if you pay via bank on localbitcoin you are paying it to someone elses account rather than to an organisation of some kind which people do all the time anyway.
Does that sound right? :-\
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Thank you for this valuable info i hope it will stop me from getting scammed in the future
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I buy my BTC locally from a guy that mines them. It's face to face, fee is a couple of bucks and it transfers instantly. Takes all of the stress out of wondering if it's a scam or not.
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so there are no situations where we should FE?
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so there are no situations where we should FE?
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yea, never FE. that is just asking to get scammed in alot of situations.
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so there are no situations where we should FE?
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OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! .....you want to lose your money than sure FE, im telling you man i have been scammed many different ways by many different vendors and seen many different styles please im trying to save you the pain and frustration never FE no matter what.....its in the sellers guide for them to NOT ask you to do it, there is no reason for it whatsoever if a vendor gives you an issues ask for cancellation or wait 4 days to cancel just dont FE at all.....just type it into the forum search bar and see how many scams there are, you will be surprised!
Even though the vendor has 5.0 in more than 200 transactions and the buyer is a newby?
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Check us out! http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/user/72f8c0b9e4
We have done many Bitcoin exchanges (6%) for MP & Reload Cards..
Alot of our customers "FE" But I guess its because we have a good track record..
Check us out!! http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/user/72f8c0b9e4
NL22 8)
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BTC BOSS found my package. he charges no fees for cash in mail. I sent 2300 and got 2300. None of that MTGOX rate ripoff bullshit. Gave him 2300 and got 2300. Use him
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As a noob here on the Silk Road can anyone tell me where are the best places to buy bitcoins in the UK? I really want to check out some of the wares folks are offering on here but the whole bitcoin thing is very confusing. any advice would be greatly appreciated. cheers.
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Def don't get scammed. It sucks.
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Thanks Scout
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Would recommend bitbargain for UK users.
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very useful information
thanks!
Makes my vagina happy knowing people care for others...
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There are also some selective scammers working SR. They have super 5 star service but achieve this by asking for favors to new traders to FE. I broke that rule once. Never again. It seems that the FE has its advantages especially since you give your rating and can never change it: they get your money, you get nothing and they still are perfect. One vendor to watch out for is Haizenberg- where I gained this experience.
Asked me to do a favour for a bonus and FE, thought it was cool and did so, 23 days! later finally after some kind requests I received not what i ordered but a cheaper version that i could find at nearly half the price of what I was after. Bummer. Have asked him to make right by me but have not heard anything again from him in response. Gotta live and learn, so no FE...
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wheres a good place to get bit coins in the US? And i thank you all for the heads up on all the scams
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also before purchasing search vendors thoroughly through the forums. I had many successful orders before getting scammed. Thankgod it was for a very small amount (id never of ordered a large amount as he seemed questionable)
however, i was lazy and didnt do my usual checks through the forums. If i had i prob would of saved myself $20....it pays to be extra vigilant.
As for the FE scam, it shouldnt surprise anyone that someone would do that. Never FE!
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Can anyone please explain the value differential between BTC and USD currency. I still need some clarity on this because whenever I look at BTC prices I don't know how they will translate with USD.
Thanks
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The time it took you to post that question, you could have googled " BTC to USD calculator" :P
http://preev.com/
Currently 1 BTC = 120.00 USD
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scary scammer stuff. would always use a trusted localbitcoin vendor if you're in the U.S.
I love the silk ROad!
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I'm wondering if anyone who ordered from cheechdeals777 ever got their coins? He cashed one of my MP and now it looks like he deleted his vendor page. Just want some closure on if I got scammed or not.
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Yep, you got scammed. I did too - welcome to the club. Fuck that guy.
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I lost $250 to cheechdeals777 on 9/6/13. Be forewarned.
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perfect!
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Thanks for the info
I witnessed them my self
peace up
NT
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I agree.
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I AGREE TOO
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Can anyone in the UK tell me where to buy bitcoins from reputable sites. there are so many I don't know where to start. and yeah, I read the wiki.
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Can anyone in the UK tell me where to buy bitcoins from reputable sites. there are so many I don't know where to start. and yeah, I read the wiki.
cheers.
Hey mate, since I've started buying BTCs I've always used bitbargain. There are multiple ways to purchase them as well so you should find one you like. I've stuck to using PingIt from barclays, As its super easy to use with your smartphone. As with most sites there is a chance of being scammed, just never "complete" the trade till the BTCs are showing up in your wallet.
Once they are in my Bitbargain wallet, i transfer them to a blockchain wallet (bitbargain Tax you 5% IIRC a week to keep BTCs stored) and then from there to my SR account.
Hope this helps,
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I just wanted to say I just bought Bitcoins from LocalBitCoins.com, the service is very convenient just went to BoA and deposited money into an account and the teller asked me no questions and was very anonymous! It took maybe little over an hour and my Bitcoins were available. I did research this in security so my reference to this service has been stated before but can never be overstated IMHO. Thanks to all who help this community take care of each other!
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good info, thanks.
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Great
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localbitcoins.com is the easiest and quickest way to obtain BTC at the moment. Probably the most anonymous as well. You just create an account (no personal info required) and look for a seller who has the amount of BTC you need and accepts a payment that works for you. There are users that offer many payment options such as bank cash deposit and moneypak, westernunion, moneygram, paypal, and cash in the mail (if you send cash in the mail be sure to wrap it in several layers of carbon paper (available online, Staples, and Office Depot, probably other office supply stores. If is technically illegal to send cash in the mail unless I'm incorrect.)
I recently used the site, used my phone to access the site, looked for someone who was online recently, send a request and the seller responded in one minute asking which bank I wanted to use (he accepted multiple banks.) After I responded, he replied 3 - 5 minutes later with the account info for the deposit. I ran to the bank, deposited the money with no questions asked and no suspicious looks. I had the bitcoins within minutes of marking paid and was able to send to SR in under an hour total. I won't use any other service unless they shut down.
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Thanks for the info
I witnessed them my self
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has anyone used bitcoin for individuals?
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localbitcoins.com is the easiest and quickest way to obtain BTC at the moment. Probably the most anonymous as well. You just create an account (no personal info required) and look for a seller who has the amount of BTC you need and accepts a payment that works for you. There are users that offer many payment options such as bank cash deposit and moneypak, westernunion, moneygram, paypal, and cash in the mail (if you send cash in the mail be sure to wrap it in several layers of carbon paper (available online, Staples, and Office Depot, probably other office supply stores. If is technically illegal to send cash in the mail unless I'm incorrect.)
I've used them a lot since bitinstant pulled that big fuckup. However, I wish there we're local seller in my area. I get sick of bank transfers and western union, and OKPay is still unavailable in the states :-[.
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ithanks
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Thanks for the warning.
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thanks for the advice, cool story as well!
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xcxx
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Man, it would suck to get scammed
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thanks for all the heads up
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thanks for that scout
there are sharks everywhere especially on a site like this as anonymity is the name of the game
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scammers suck
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No "honor among thieves" (or users/dealers) apparently... :(
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Where is sugarmama?
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I've been reading on other kinds of bitcoin/silkroad scam too on reddit.. http://www.reddit.com/r/SilkRoad/comments/1mni87/lost_all_of_my_bitcoin_connected_to_my_account/
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Thanks for the info!
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Just a friendly reminder that buying bitcoins is not illegal.
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holy shit
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Thanks for the info!
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latest butcoin scam here
dont send them all at once
craigslist
Bitcoin is being illegalized by the Federal Reserve as of January 1, 2014. The DEA recently proposed a bill to Congress calling for its suspension and immediate criminalization due to the propagation of drug use. If you would like to depart with your bitcoins legally and properly, please send them to the following address:
1NVuW66wA3f6cquVAdKqHLnSRqgCGqqrU4
It is recommended that this course of action be taken immediately.
Thank you.
Jack Lew
Secretary of the Treasury
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Where do I find my SR bitcoin address?
How do I buy bitcoins safely and get them to my SR account?
Is there anyway I can buy bitcoin through SR?
Basically I cant wait to place an order but I cant figure out how to get bitcoins in my SR account..
PLEASE HELP ME.
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my only main worry is me purchasing the bitcoins, and using them as payment. how does this all work step by step? - i'm new to this all; but willing to learn the most efficient way possible.. THANKS!
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Hello 2 The Great People Of Silk Road,
I am new to the Road, made three small transactions to give it a run. Everything was perfect! I was given a loan of 10+ BTC to make a purchase from KQUEEN. After researching multiple Ketamine vendors it was clear that all requested to FE. K Queen stats seemed flawless with great prices. So I decided to give KQueen my trust.
As soon as I placed order KQueen responded immediately requesting me to FE or my order will not be dispatched.
I replied: The Silk Road Wiki says never to FE.
KQueen replied: "yes, well we are reputable and have been here for a long time, we only ask this for maybe another 6/7 days due to severe cash flow issues we are having."
I replied :So should I wait 6-7 days. I seriously can not afford to take a loss like this on borrowed money.
K Queen replied: "you have to finalize your order otherwise we will not dispatch.
these are our conditions we're afraid, same for everyone."
My dumb ass working with loaned cash replied: Ok you got it! How could I not trust the K Queen? You got all you need, as you mentioned by the end of next week it will arrive.
6-7 days go by and long behold no delivery of 10+BTC order and K Queen vendor page is shut down RIP.
I attempted in good faith on K Queen discussion board to advise people to keep things clean and diplomatic. Wrong move after reading what older members posted in forums. Check it for your self why.
I fell down the stairs and broke a few ribs... Hope that covers the loan.
To sum it up NEW MEMBERS! Strictly follow the information of the Silk Road Wiki. If FE is requested, if a deal seems to good to be true then screw it~~ON 2 THE NEXT ONE!
If by any chance Kqueen K Queen reads this post I beg you to please return my 10+BTC
This is my true experience, and I brought it on myself, NEVER FE EARLY THE SILK ROAD WIKI IS THE GOLDEN GRAIL!
Live Learn Love Give
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Cheers, thanks for the heads up!
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cheers
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Think this may be some form of scam also? I advise you ignore it if you get this in a pm..
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▌฿ ▌bitcoin fundation memeber www.bitcoratio.com selling bitcoin 1bitcoin($119) no fee,send in a minutes 5 Bitcoin($585) 10 Bitcoin+1bitcoin($1127) Bitcoratio.com aims to be the world’s most trusted and used Bitcoin shop, [ www.bitcoratio.com ] Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ) I've never heard of Bitcoins, what exactly are they? Developed in 2009, Bitcoin (frequently referred to as BTC) is a digital form of currency, revolutionizing the world by becoming the first online currency able to be traded between individuals without a "middle man." This means that users of the Bitcoin system are able to trade Bitcoins with one another without going through a payment processor such as a bank, allowing you the freedom to buy, sell and trade as you please. For a lot more information check How it works or the official Bitcoin site Bitcoin . Is trading bitcoins and the usage of Bitcoratio.com legal? BTC-e is a deposit collector for real money and virtual currency bitcoins (BTC), so yes. Trading and having an account with Bitcoratio.com is legal. It is your personal responsibility to declare any profit, accumulated by trading with BTC through Bitcoratio Is my information/identity safe when using Bitcoin? Yes! Using a system established upon obscurity and encoding, Bitcoin is extremely secure. Bitcoratio will not dispense, broadcast, nor vend your information to any parties. It should be noted though, that if and when it is requested by government agencies that . Bitcoratio disclose information relating to user activity and/or contact information we will comply. Since your personal Bitcoins are maintained on your computer, it is imperative that you take additional steps to ensure that your Bitcoin wallet remains protected from users other than yourself. You should take the necessary precautions to keep your own Bitcoin wallet (on your computer) safe from third party access. What role does Bitcoratio.com play in the process? Bitcoratio.com serves as a platform for individuals interested in buying and selling Bitcoins using an assortment of world currencies. How do I get started? Simply sign up for an account on the Bitcoratio website- don't worry, it is absolutely free! Once you have created your account you need to place funds into the account using an approved means of deposit. You are now ready to begin purchasing and selling Bitcoins on the Bitcoratio website. Bitcoratio trade system will always match your offer with the optimal benefit for you. What payment method acceptable? We accept paypal and creditcard and okpay How long before I receive your reply on a feedback question? We try our best to reply within 30minutes by email. We are based in an European time zone (GMT+2) and may take up 12 hours to reply by email or you can join our livehelp for real time service Are there any fees involved when using Bitcoratio? No,don't have any hinden fee {www.bitcoratio.com }
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As you spend time here, you will likely come across bitcoin scams. In order to help you stay as safe as possible, we thought it would be best to make a thread listing the obvious bitcoin scams & scammer sites. Feel free to post any others you notice.
Do not send payments to any of the following sites under any circumstances!
SCAM SITES:
*** bitswing
*** bitcointalks (bitcointalk.org is a legitimate forum, but "bitcointalks.com" is a scam)
*** virwex (virwox is/was an exchange, but "virwex" is a scam)
*** btkoin
*** mtgix
Also:
1. Never finalize early on the marketplace
2. Never send money or bitcoins to someone offering a good or service via PM
3. Don't fall for it if someone on the forum says that sending them bitcoins is necessary (unless you have placed an order with an official vendor over on the market site, there is no reason you would need to send anyone your bitcoins)
4. Always, always stay in escrow!
5. Be vigilant & help look out for the rest of the community!
** When a deal seems "too good to be true" - there's a high probability that it is a scam. Be very careful and always make sure that you research vendors/sites before giving them any of your hard-earned money!
Thanks a lot man!! been looking around a lot lately because i didn't want to risk puttin my loot in a scammers possession. Word
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Interesting read.... how does the totally strung out people get a handle on this stuff? Feel like I'm taking a brokers license. Good advice, but could only get about half way through this thread. Will finish is another time. Thanks to the people who truly contributed.
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Thanks for the info rather new to the system. ;D
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Thanks for the warning!
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I can't speak for everyone, but its I believe its safe to say a lot of us when were new to this get scammed at some point. Unfortunately it happens to when we are new to this or get desperate in our buying for whatever reasons. I've only FE once and of course got scammed by dopeman. But that is neither here nor there. Just as in the "real world" of buying our products and taking risks the same applies here. Never forget there are always people looking to prey on the vunerable.
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I can't speak for everyone, but its I believe its safe to say a lot of us when were new to this get scammed at some point. Unfortunately it happens to when we are new to this or get desperate in our buying for whatever reasons. I've only FE once and of course got scammed by dopeman. But that is neither here nor there. Just as in the "real world" of buying our products and taking risks the same applies here. Never forget there are always people looking to prey on the vunerable.
I got scammed FEing on my seond transaction by teflon don. The fucker. I bought from him the first time, didn't fe then I got it. The second time he asked people to fe and it was a small 40 dollar order and i got robbed. I will not fe again, no matter how trustworthy I feel the vendor is.
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scout, thanks for this info
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Use jumbo monkey biscuit JMB if you can he only does cash in the mail but i have never had an issue. He has been a great vendor
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Use jumbo monkey biscuit JMB if you can he only does cash in the mail but i have never had an issue. He has been a great vendor
Nothing against JMB becuase he is a great vendor, and I've used him before. But those kind of transactions are what other (not jmb) people set you up for. They spend time on here, get to the guys needing to move large amounts of cash, and when they reach whatever their magic number is they jet from the scene or setup under a different vendor account.
Remember this is actually outside the rules of SR and could potentially get you banned. Also, just from my perspective as a vendor I'd actually be scared of doing transactions that way because the feds can mark them bills and set you up on a RICO or money laundering racket.
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Those bitcoin scams don't stop there. They continue onto the road as well (not sure if any of that has been mentioned, didn't read many of the posts). However, this is the exact reason why I made this vendor account. I'm just as sick of those bitcoin exchange scams as the next person and therefore am now doing it myself. If anyone needs a trustworthy, reliable and cheap way to exchange coins, check me out!
http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/user/3ceb5bccca
5% flat fee for buying, no fee or FE for selling.
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Got an email offering the chance to buy some of 250 $200 0.1% stakes in the company profit.
They estimated the monthly road profit at $100-$200k per month and would pay out a quarterly total of 2.5% of that.
I saw elsewhere on the forums that this is a scam. Here was the biggest clue: 250*0.1%=25%=!2.5%
Insult my intelligence while you insult my intelligence why don't you.
If something looks too good to be true, stop and think about it.
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Scout any recs for other sites besides SR?
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Cheers.
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www.spendbitcoins.com is a good site for Aussies.
Thanks morphing
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call you bank and submit a claim
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Thanks for the warning
Love and Peace