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Discussion => Security => Topic started by: jdtd123456789 on November 20, 2012, 02:04 pm
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Hey everyone.....newbie here...I have been off and on SR now for over a month trying to learn everything I can and have finally got everything down( not slow or stupid, just got a busy life) except how to purchase and transfer BTC into my SR account....I have read many many forums on it, though many seem old and outdated as many of the ways are shot down by the more experienced. I made it through the PGP process and saved the money I need to get started, so this is the last step before Im set for my trip down SR. Please somebody help me with step by step instructions....thank you so much..........................
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Visit http://www.blockchain.info
create wallet
fund wallet through blockchain links (or private bitcoin sales from forums and such, bitcointalk.org is where all the miners live, the creators of the coins)
send to SR wallet
go nuts
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You left out some key components to answer your question correctly. Where are you located? How many BTC do you need? Do you want to do this WITH or WITHOUT ID?
Anyways I'll assume USA and tell you how I did it.
Created instawallet at blockchain.info. Created account at bitme.com. Made a cash deposit at a local chase bank. Went home, sent in copy of receipt. Had money in account within 10 minutes. Bitme is kind of an exchange, so I exchanged my money in the account for BTC. Then sent the BTC to my blockchain.info wallet address. Then to SR. All in all took less than an hour. Blockchain wallets are fast at confirming transactions. This is how I did it with no ID needed.
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Well I can only tell you what someone I know (who definitely isn't me) does.
Get a Mt.Gox account, make a bank transfer (from your own bank), once the money is in your Mt.Gox account trade it for Bitcoins. Send Bitcoins to an InstaWallet then send from there to your Silk Road wallet as soon as the funds are available.
The Mt.Gox account I'm referring to has also been verified, meaning they have been sent proof of identity by the account owner and it matches the name on the bank account being used to send money.
This system has been used many times over months without any issues. Personally I think most people are overly paranoid when it comes to Bitcoins. If you're an average to small time purchaser a lot of the precautions people recommend are unnecessary. It will vary slightly depending on your country so you may want to let us know and people from your country can chime in.
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Thank you for all of your info everyone....sorry I left out some details....yes I am in the USA....and no I dont want to use any form of ID....I will take all of your recommendations and put them to use....again...thank you for being so helpful....
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try bitcopia.com or blueskytraders for no id cash deposit i would stay away from bitinstant and mt gox
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Bro here is a very very simple easy way..
1.go to bitinstant.com
2 at bitinstant select the send to adress option, copy your account from SR paste it in on where it should go..finish the rest. Print the receipt and go to somewhere that uses money gram and your done..It has a few payment options on bitinstant.com its very simple..Then you can go to blockchain and watch as you get confirmation that your money is being sent..I do it that way all the time. Im from USA also
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Bro here is a very very simple easy way..
1.go to bitinstant.com
2 at bitinstant select the send to adress option, copy your account from SR paste it in on where it should go..finish the rest. Print the receipt and go to somewhere that uses money gram and your done..It has a few payment options on bitinstant.com its very simple..Then you can go to blockchain and watch as you get confirmation that your money is being sent..I do it that way all the time. Im from USA also
I prefer to send to a blockchain wallet before sending to SR... Remember its recommended to get a new SR wallet address prior to sending to SR
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Why is it recomended to get a new SR bitcoin address every time? Anything to support that? (no offense, I've just been buying a while and never done so more than a few times). Thx. GZ.
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I use instawallet.org. Whether I get btc from an outside source, or from an inhouse vendor, have'em sent to instawallet, handy as hell, then to my SR btc address, the one you see when you click on 'account' on main site. I don't use a Desktop wallet, myself...I use Tails or LiberteLinux so I use an online wallet, like instawallet has...lots of different ways to do this, man, and like so many things on here, kind of got to sort out which suits you best :)
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so can i sign up at bitcoin central, get my funds in there, send them to blockchain wallet, then to SR? bitcoins are so confusing to me.
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so can i sign up at bitcoin central, get my funds in there, send them to blockchain wallet, then to SR? bitcoins are so confusing to me.
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Sounds good to me, tho I've never used either of those...but that's simlar to what others do, and I"ve done, which is to get money somwhere you can but bitcoins--like bitcoin central, then bounce it to a wallet, then on to here...I always try to start small, first time I'm doing anything, make sure it all goes thru...
But yeah, they can seem pretty confusing...you kind of get used to that around here, especially with bitcoins, where shit's always changing, shutting down, disappearing, all that. I've lost count of all the different places that either folded, like TradeHill, or just disappeared, like a couple other online places used to sell bitcoins...you'll get the swing of it...good luck :)
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Just as sup3rm4n says - use an intermediary service to put the coins in, wait a little while, then transfer to SR, then again, what a little while :)
Good luck!
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Why wait? And i will be using like 110 bucks for the first time... seems like a little much but then again the vendor is trusted and good reviews so i hopefully will be safe.
also when signing up on bitcoin central should i use real normal email address? since its not going to be connected to my other wallet or sr obviously.
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If your just a user sending to your SR wallet directly is more than fine. SR tumbles and fogs the transaction to a degree. Buying BTC isnt illegal. LE need a full proof investigation of what you purchased with that said amount of money. Simply transfering money to a SR wallet(even if they could prove it was a SR wallet) Proves absolutely nothing. I understand the paranoia coming from a sellers perspective lmao but a small time non violent user is the last thing LE is worried about. Especially if your not using ID lmao send straight to ur SR wallet bouncing the coins back and forth on clear net wallets is only ganna provide a link.
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If your just a user sending to your SR wallet directly is more than fine. SR tumbles and fogs the transaction to a degree. Buying BTC isnt illegal. LE need a full proof investigation of what you purchased with that said amount of money. Simply transfering money to a SR wallet(even if they could prove it was a SR wallet) Proves absolutely nothing. I understand the paranoia coming from a sellers perspective lmao but a small time non violent user is the last thing LE is worried about. Especially if your not using ID lmao send straight to ur SR wallet bouncing the coins back and forth on clear net wallets is only ganna provide a link.
lmfao this might sound dumb as fuck but i still cant figure out who the LE is. And im from the states btw. And so i use bitcoin central to deposit money from my bank to turn it into bitcoins right? Then go from bit coin central to SR?
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http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=59449.msg552633#msg552633
This is a link to one thread about generating new wallet addresses, there were others as well
Why is it recomended to get a new SR bitcoin address every time? Anything to support that? (no offense, I've just been buying a while and never done so more than a few times). Thx. GZ.
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Could anyone please answer my question above the post above this one? Pleeeeeeease
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Could anyone please answer my question above the post above this one? Pleeeeeeease
Most people use at least on tumbler service but the amount of security that you build into your transaction is dependent on your comfort level. If you are thinking that you do not know your comfort level then maybe you need to read thru the security sub forum posts that cover BTC. .
"so can i sign up at bitcoin central, get my funds in there, send them to blockchain wallet, then to SR? bitcoins are so confusing to me"
I have not used bitcoin central but these steps appear fine to me, but if you are not 100% read read read its your money its your freedom!
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You sound like you're second guessing yourself TBH.
Dollar bills go from your bank to that bitcentral company or whoever it is. Bitcentral swap the dollars for BITCOINS and store it in a bitcoin wallet on your behalf.
These bitcoins are now yours, you can send them to any bitcoin address you come across.
I recommend sending the coins onto another wallet where you'll have more tools at your fingertips - blockchain.info is great.
*After you send your coins to your SR wallet you will have to WAIT so dont go nuts and post all over here asking why. It takes time for the SR to tumble your bitcoins.
LE =Law Enforcement
LEO=Law Enforcement Organisation
n00b= People who dont read the countless other threads on this subject. lol jokin buddy. Read up and youll be answering peoples Q's in no time. ;)
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I recommend sending the coins onto another wallet where you'll have more tools at your fingertips - blockchain.info is great.
thx for that tip! :)
blockchain.info is really great! i do so:
1. i buy my bitcoins at bitcoin-24.com
2. i log in to blockchain.info and create a new _anonymous address_ (this will deleted after transaction)
3. i transfer the btc from btc-24 to that new _anonymous address_ (after tx is done, this is delete)
4. in my SR-account i click "get new address"
5. i transfer via _anonymous send_ in blockchain.info to my SR-address.
thats cool. 8) (i think there is no way for relationships)
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thx for that tip! :)
blockchain.info is really great! i do so:
1. i buy my bitcoins at bitcoin-24.com
2. i log in to blockchain.info and create a new _anonymous address_ (this will deleted after transaction)
3. i transfer the btc from btc-24 to that new _anonymous address_ (after tx is done, this is delete)
4. in my SR-account i click "get new address"
5. i transfer via _anonymous send_ in blockchain.info to my SR-address.
thats cool. 8) (i think there is no way for relationships)
is it anonymous enough?? i dont know how to deposit anonymously on SR from my country..
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is it anonymous enough??
sure. ;)
i dont know how to deposit anonymously on SR from my country..
buy btc wehere you want and then follow step 2-5
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so there wont be any problem if i buy them with my real bank account?
i just need a blockchain account and use the anonymous send method?!
cant i buy them directly on blockchain and send it anonymous to SR? or too dangerous?
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so there wont be any problem if i buy them with my real bank account?
i just need a blockchain account and use the anonymous send method?!
that must be ok
cant i buy them directly on blockchain and send it anonymous to SR? or too dangerous?
i think this is possible. but i would prefer to buy btc somewhere else, and then with combo of _anonymous address_ (receive) + _anonymous send_ in blockchain.info do send them to SR. blockchain says:
How does a "Mixer" work?
Bitcoins sent anonymously are not sent directly to the recipient instead they are routed through a shared wallet. After careful analysis the funds are swapped for clean or "un-tainted" coins found from either the shared mixing wallet or from blockchain.info's private wallet. The clean coins are forwarded to the destination address and the original coins remain in the shared wallet thereby severing any relationship between the input address and the destination address.
(i think there is no way for relationships)
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I just keep it simple, I go to CaptainMal, deposit money into his account which is completely anonymous and give him my SR wallet address and boom I got coins in no time, He's the bomb, great communicator and gets stuff done fast.
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Had a weird one today. My usual route is bitinstant>moneypak>instawallet. Made 3 deposits today all to the same wallet. Got the normal email confirmations that I have before but...only the first deposit value is in the wallet. Have an email into them. Checked to be sure addys were same on all. Very strange. Hope it works out.http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/Smileys/default/embarrassed.gif
I was also told that you cannot make multiple transactions of the same value in the same day today. First I have heard that.
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Had a weird one today. My usual route is bitinstant>moneypak>instawallet. Made 3 deposits today all to the same wallet. Got the normal email confirmations that I have before but...only the first deposit value is in the wallet. Have an email into them. Checked to be sure addys were same on all. Very strange. Hope it works out.
I was also told that you cannot make multiple transactions of the same value in the same day today. First I have heard that.
FTR they made it right. The next time I need to send a larger amount I might use someone like capt mal or one of the other bitvendors.
Cheers to this community