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Discussion => Silk Road discussion => Topic started by: IseeWhatsComing on November 15, 2012, 04:22 am
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How can you all not see the downtime was to build up a huge amount of customers ready to deposit their coins for purchases all at once for dpr to dip with. Also kinda Funny how deposits are working just fine right now but "withdrawals won't be up for awhile.."
Be smart guys. Think about it.
I was kat gummystars and familyforever so trust me I know a very nice scam when I see one..
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BE SMART PEOPLE
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You could at least claim to be Tony76 or Heidi Montag or something interesting here.
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After spending some time on these forums the past few days, I'm convinced 90% of the people on SR are either junkies, trolls, conspiracy nuts, or retarded teenagers.
JFC
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why are these type of claims always made with shill accounts?
why cant anyone have a back bone and use their real account when making such a claim. whats it gonna hurt? if they truely believe this is coming then who gives a shit about their avatars rep?
Soo many shill accounts coming out of the woodwork..
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How can you all not see the downtime was to build up a huge amount of customers ready to deposit their coins for purchases all at once for dpr to dip with. Also kinda Funny how deposits are working just fine right now but "withdrawals won't be up for awhile.."
Be smart guys. Think about it.
I was kat gummystars and familyforever so trust me I know a very nice scam when I see one..
I made a withdrawal to test my account prior to making my deposit.
I immediately received my withdrawal. My coins have yet to hit my SR account.
I have an anecdote that directly contradicts your theory. Now I'm part of the echo chamber. Rabble rabble rabble.
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I think Forum Avatars shold be linked to SR accounts. and you can only access the private section of the forum when you have more than 5 succesful transactions.
put a stop to these fucking shill accounts.
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How can you all not see the downtime was to build up a huge amount of customers ready to deposit their coins for purchases all at once for dpr to dip with. Also kinda Funny how deposits are working just fine right now but "withdrawals won't be up for awhile.."
Be smart guys. Think about it.
I was kat gummystars and familyforever so trust me I know a very nice scam when I see one..
I made a withdrawal to test my account prior to making my deposit.
I immediately received my withdrawal. My coins have yet to hit my SR account.
I have an anecdote that directly contradicts your theory. Now I'm part of the echo chamber. Rabble rabble rabble.
I tried hours ago to make a withdrawal and I'm still waiting on my coin.. wtf???
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How can you all not see the downtime was to build up a huge amount of customers ready to deposit their coins for purchases all at once for dpr to dip with. Also kinda Funny how deposits are working just fine right now but "withdrawals won't be up for awhile.."
Be smart guys. Think about it.
I was kat gummystars and familyforever so trust me I know a very nice scam when I see one..
I made a withdrawal to test my account prior to making my deposit.
I immediately received my withdrawal. My coins have yet to hit my SR account.
I have an anecdote that directly contradicts your theory. Now I'm part of the echo chamber. Rabble rabble rabble.
I tried hours ago to make a withdrawal and I'm still waiting on my coin.. wtf???
MC- Cunt i told you gtfo you scamming peice of shit
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How can you all not see the downtime was to build up a huge amount of customers ready to deposit their coins for purchases all at once for dpr to dip with. Also kinda Funny how deposits are working just fine right now but "withdrawals won't be up for awhile.."
Be smart guys. Think about it.
I was kat gummystars and familyforever so trust me I know a very nice scam when I see one..
I made a withdrawal to test my account prior to making my deposit.
I immediately received my withdrawal. My coins have yet to hit my SR account.
I have an anecdote that directly contradicts your theory. Now I'm part of the echo chamber. Rabble rabble rabble.
I tried hours ago to make a withdrawal and I'm still waiting on my coin.. wtf???
I bet your soul smells like the worst period blood ever.
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Okay guys I'm done. Just don't say I didn't warn you. If you don't believe me ask me any question you'd like about gar kat gummystars familyforever usareshipper or traveller. They were all my accounts. I know a lot more about the scams and interworkings of this site than you would believe. You mods know who you are. Half of them are accomplices in most of these large scams. They're the perfect people to have on your side. Just don't say I didn't warn you guys.. :/
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How can you all not see the downtime was to build up a huge amount of customers ready to deposit their coins for purchases all at once for dpr to dip with. Also kinda Funny how deposits are working just fine right now but "withdrawals won't be up for awhile.."
Be smart guys. Think about it.
I was kat gummystars and familyforever so trust me I know a very nice scam when I see one..
I made a withdrawal to test my account prior to making my deposit.
I immediately received my withdrawal. My coins have yet to hit my SR account.
I have an anecdote that directly contradicts your theory. Now I'm part of the echo chamber. Rabble rabble rabble.
I tried hours ago to make a withdrawal and I'm still waiting on my coin.. wtf???
You mean you are having trouble withdrawing the coin you stole from people? Damn that sucks....you scamming piece of shit.
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Okay guys I'm done. Just don't say I didn't warn you. If you don't believe me ask me any question you'd like about gar kat gummystars familyforever usareshipper or traveller.
holly sit
am I the only person on here who only has 1 account?
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Tony scammed once. It wasn't even that clever. I've scammed tens of thousands over the last year from all different angles and each was genius in its own way. I know how these work. Throw your money away guys.
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withdrawing btc worked fine for me just now.
yeah but did the btc show up?
I've been waiting over 5 hours and normally it takes 5 minutes.
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To be fair I cashed out a fairly decent sum a few hours ago and it's taking a while to sort out. I just messaged the staff though and didn't resort to being a tosser.
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Don't say I didn't warn you guys.
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I have placed a few withdraws and have had a few deposits into my SR account with no problem.
U.G.S
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why cant anyone have a back bone and use their real account when making such a claim. whats it gonna hurt? if they truely believe this is coming then who gives a shit about their avatars rep?
THIS. +1
I was seriously thinking about posting this today. Obviously they don't fully believe their own conspiracy theories, or their reputation wouldn't matter. What a bunch of incompetent, paranoid junkies.
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Deposits aren't instant with 'instawallet', so why expect them to be instant with SR? Sometimes it takes a few hours to confirm the transactions. Heck I'm still somewhat of a newbie and know this.
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Withdrew 2 times 6 hours ago
Nothing yet.
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(every post he has made)
uh what
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the withdrawal delays have happened in the past a few times, and always get sorted out, so just relax. I know it sucks. i made a couple large withdrawals earlier today, and they have yet to arrive in my Wallet, but i have faith that they will eventually. there's probably still some parts of the Road that aren't fully up and functional yet. take a xanax, everything will be okay soon.
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Umm LULZ.......
looks like DPR mastered hacking into bitcoin addresses and dumping the coins in his own purse. He done just ran off with all your coin boys. Moo Haa Moo Haa Moo Hahahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
hee hee haa haa hoe hoe LMAO :0)
I've been waiting over 5 hours and normally it takes 5 minutes.
LMFAO
Withdrew 2 times 6 hours ago
Nothing yet.
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Seriously, calm down dude, I'm with lim on this one, any time I've ever had a problem with transactions of BTC, SR staff always gets it sorted out within 4 hours to a few days. I was freaking out last week about 100 btc that didn't show up in my account for four days. They told me to give it up to 72 hours before I really freak out, after that though, it got sent right through. You just gotta be straight up, yet tactful when dealing with people about money man. oh yeah, and patient. Think about how long it takes to a fucking bank transfer man, up to a week or more some times. chill dude 8)
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To those who are attempting to withdraw, have you checked the blockchain for initiation of transaction? Confirms have been slow as of late.
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Seriously, calm down dude, I'm with lim on this one, any time I've ever had a problem with transactions of BTC, SR staff always gets it sorted out within 4 hours to a few days. I was freaking out last week about 100 btc that didn't show up in my account for four days. They told me to give it up to 72 hours before I really freak out, after that though, it got sent right through. You just gotta be straight up, yet tactful when dealing with people about money man. oh yeah, and patient. Think about how long it takes to a fucking bank transfer man, up to a week or more some times. chill dude 8)
Yeah basically the same for me too when I've had an issue in the past. Waiting for a reply now but I'm sure it wont be long.
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i feel like "BE SMART PEOPLE!' should be turned into a meme on this forum.
or maybe it could become the tagline. "Silk Road Marketplace - BE SMART PEOPLE!"
i wonder whether the nimrods who run around in their tin foil hats understand economics.
i read somewhere on Monday that the first 3 days of the outage caused btc transactions to drop around 16%. so we can assume that a fair chunk of those 16% of all transactions would otherwise have been made through Silk Road.
and so Tin Foil hat geniuses, why do you suppose DPR would rip you all off and kill a service that he just spent 6 days fixing, when instead he can continue taking commissions on 16% of all btc transactions, becoming very rich, at almost no risk - if you look at the terms and conditions of this site, they're designed like file-sharing sites have started to write theirs. it places all burden for using this site on the vendor and the buyer, not on DPR.
you people are fuckin retarded.
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Okay guys I'm done. Just don't say I didn't warn you. If you don't believe me ask me any question you'd like about gar kat gummystars familyforever usareshipper or traveller. They were all my accounts. I know a lot more about the scams and interworkings of this site than you would believe. You mods know who you are. Half of them are accomplices in most of these large scams. They're the perfect people to have on your side. Just don't say I didn't warn you guys.. :/
You're a faggot.
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^^This. LOL
The aussie dude from the bottom of page 2 got it on the nose. DPR makes so much commission from this site that it would make no sense to cut and run with 2-3 days worth of deposits. Hundreds of vendors probably thought the same thing and will be reluctant to let go of major product until withdrawals are 100% fixed. Same goes for buyers looking to spend huge sums of money on here. Many are simply going to wait a while instead of just depositing everything within 1-2 days of the site re-opening. What's he going to get? A bunch of small deposits for personal stash orders? Yeah, that's worth keeping the site offline for like five days and losing all those sales. DPR would have to keep withdrawal crippled for so long that half the users would stop trusting SR.
Even if he/she had to ditch SR in an emergency, I doubt DPR would go out of his way to plan this whole thing. It would be easier to keep operating the site as usual and perhaps offer a sale to get a final rush of income. Faking a technical problem in hopes that after the longest site outage ever, dumbass buyers would just automatically make large deposits to SR is fucking retarded. Hell, anything is possible though. This sounds about stupid enough to be true :/
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^^This. LOL
The aussie dude from the bottom of page 2 got it on the nose. DPR makes so much commission from this site that it would make no sense to cut and run with 2-3 days worth of deposits. Hundreds of vendors probably thought the same thing and will be reluctant to let go of major product until withdrawals are 100% fixed. Same goes for buyers looking to spend huge sums of money on here. Many are simply going to wait a while instead of just depositing everything within 1-2 days of the site re-opening. What's he going to get? A bunch of small deposits for personal stash orders? Yeah, that's worth keeping the site offline for like five days and losing all those sales. DPR would have to keep withdrawal crippled for so long that half the users would stop trusting SR.
Even if he/she had to ditch SR in an emergency, I doubt DPR would go out of his way to plan this whole thing. It would be easier to keep operating the site as usual and perhaps offer a sale to get a final rush of income. Faking a technical problem in hopes that after the longest site outage ever, dumbass buyers would just automatically make large deposits to SR is fucking retarded. Hell, anything is possible though. This sounds about stupid enough to be true :/
In the period of time that Forbes estimated Silk Road to have done 22 million dollars worth of transactions, I would say the volume is closer to 100 million. In the time since that, Silk Road has only seen a greater and greater amount of transactions.
Do not consider the listings and vendors we can see publicly. Consider that Silk Road has legitimate and real uses for much larger organizations. Here is a system, it is automatic, it is easy to use... There is less risk of either party being assaulted and if one person scams the other, it can be resolved.
The Silk Road is absolutely valuable, even to major criminal organizations. These are the targets the any LEA looking into the Road. LE knows that larger criminal organizations will begin to use the Road. Do you know why you haven't heard nor seen anything about them? Because they are organized and they are intelligent. The biggest mistake DPR could ever make would be to cut-and-run with everyone's money. The longer the Road lasts, the more the Road accommodates, the greater the profit they can earn. And with the fees garnished off the top, this will drive a greater amount of bitcoins into the possession of DPR. Without careful laundering techniques, this will build up and reduce the number of coins available to individuals purchasing coins. With the soon-to-be-reduced flow of new bitcoins, this means a decreasing supply of bitcoins in circulation and an increasing value-per-coin due to the increased rarity.
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^^This. LOL
The aussie dude from the bottom of page 2 got it on the nose. DPR makes so much commission from this site that it would make no sense to cut and run with 2-3 days worth of deposits. Hundreds of vendors probably thought the same thing and will be reluctant to let go of major product until withdrawals are 100% fixed. Same goes for buyers looking to spend huge sums of money on here. Many are simply going to wait a while instead of just depositing everything within 1-2 days of the site re-opening. What's he going to get? A bunch of small deposits for personal stash orders? Yeah, that's worth keeping the site offline for like five days and losing all those sales. DPR would have to keep withdrawal crippled for so long that half the users would stop trusting SR.
Even if he/she had to ditch SR in an emergency, I doubt DPR would go out of his way to plan this whole thing. It would be easier to keep operating the site as usual and perhaps offer a sale to get a final rush of income. Faking a technical problem in hopes that after the longest site outage ever, dumbass buyers would just automatically make large deposits to SR is fucking retarded. Hell, anything is possible though. This sounds about stupid enough to be true :/
In the period of time that Forbes estimated Silk Road to have done 22 million dollars worth of transactions, I would say the volume is closer to 100 million. In the time since that, Silk Road has only seen a greater and greater amount of transactions.
Do not consider the listings and vendors we can see publicly. Consider that Silk Road has legitimate and real uses for much larger organizations. Here is a system, it is automatic, it is easy to use... There is less risk of either party being assaulted and if one person scams the other, it can be resolved.
The Silk Road is absolutely valuable, even to major criminal organizations. These are the targets the any LEA looking into the Road. LE knows that larger criminal organizations will begin to use the Road. Do you know why you haven't heard nor seen anything about them? Because they are organized and they are intelligent. The biggest mistake DPR could ever make would be to cut-and-run with everyone's money. The longer the Road lasts, the more the Road accommodates, the greater the profit they can earn. And with the fees garnished off the top, this will drive a greater amount of bitcoins into the possession of DPR. Without careful laundering techniques, this will build up and reduce the number of coins available to individuals purchasing coins. With the soon-to-be-reduced flow of new bitcoins, this means a decreasing supply of bitcoins in circulation and an increasing value-per-coin due to the increased rarity.
Well put. It just wouldnt be profitable to pull the scam OP is talking about. Far greater returns with the current business model.
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op is a fag.
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why are these type of claims always made with shill accounts?
why cant anyone have a back bone and use their real account when making such a claim. whats it gonna hurt? if they truely believe this is coming then who gives a shit about their avatars rep?
Soo many shill accounts coming out of the woodwork..
If they are like me they are a vendor and rely on SR for only source of income. Saying something critical of such a tightly controlled network is not prudent. Could hurt your income if your community identity was known.
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A soothsayer with 6 posts and thinks his reputation as a scammer makes him credible, yeah, I think i'm gonna kinda ignore this. gg
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Okay guys I'm done. Just don't say I didn't warn you. If you don't believe me ask me any question you'd like about gar kat gummystars familyforever usareshipper or traveller. They were all my accounts. I know a lot more about the scams and interworkings of this site than you would believe. You mods know who you are. Half of them are accomplices in most of these large scams. They're the perfect people to have on your side. Just don't say I didn't warn you guys.. :/
Well im glad you kept us informed about all this..Although i don't get the satisfaction ,of sticking a knife in your gut.At least i get the "tiny" satisfaction ,of telling you your a scumbag /twat/ thief..And knowing you'll get my message +1
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I don't know how you can assume that the "hype" over being down for days, and not allowing new customers, is going to build up so much EXTRA revenue that wouldn't have come in during the outage.
More than likely, people spent their money elsewhere. There may be a slightly high number of orders placed in the next few days, but to assume that it 100% compensates (or surpasses) the revenue that for sure would have been generated otherwise is naive.
Vendors and DPR are in it to make money. To assume DPR is scamming the system to fuck with us all, is silly and would be an atrocious business idea. The other couple places have been getting more traffic with the outage, if anything it'll probably make the number of active users go down a tad. Anyone who doesn't like it here and thinks they're being taken advantage of can go elsewhere...
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^^This. LOL
The aussie dude from the bottom of page 2 got it on the nose. DPR makes so much commission from this site that it would make no sense to cut and run with 2-3 days worth of deposits. Hundreds of vendors probably thought the same thing and will be reluctant to let go of major product until withdrawals are 100% fixed. Same goes for buyers looking to spend huge sums of money on here. Many are simply going to wait a while instead of just depositing everything within 1-2 days of the site re-opening. What's he going to get? A bunch of small deposits for personal stash orders? Yeah, that's worth keeping the site offline for like five days and losing all those sales. DPR would have to keep withdrawal crippled for so long that half the users would stop trusting SR.
Even if he/she had to ditch SR in an emergency, I doubt DPR would go out of his way to plan this whole thing. It would be easier to keep operating the site as usual and perhaps offer a sale to get a final rush of income. Faking a technical problem in hopes that after the longest site outage ever, dumbass buyers would just automatically make large deposits to SR is fucking retarded. Hell, anything is possible though. This sounds about stupid enough to be true :/
In the period of time that Forbes estimated Silk Road to have done 22 million dollars worth of transactions, I would say the volume is closer to 100 million. In the time since that, Silk Road has only seen a greater and greater amount of transactions.
Do not consider the listings and vendors we can see publicly. Consider that Silk Road has legitimate and real uses for much larger organizations. Here is a system, it is automatic, it is easy to use... There is less risk of either party being assaulted and if one person scams the other, it can be resolved.
The Silk Road is absolutely valuable, even to major criminal organizations. These are the targets the any LEA looking into the Road. LE knows that larger criminal organizations will begin to use the Road. Do you know why you haven't heard nor seen anything about them? Because they are organized and they are intelligent. The biggest mistake DPR could ever make would be to cut-and-run with everyone's money. The longer the Road lasts, the more the Road accommodates, the greater the profit they can earn. And with the fees garnished off the top, this will drive a greater amount of bitcoins into the possession of DPR. Without careful laundering techniques, this will build up and reduce the number of coins available to individuals purchasing coins. With the soon-to-be-reduced flow of new bitcoins, this means a decreasing supply of bitcoins in circulation and an increasing value-per-coin due to the increased rarity.
Agree 100%. The OC elements are definitely hiding in plain sight, or at least sending "feelers" out. This site really is just growing out of control, and the downtime has more to do with that than any scam.
It is not in DPR's interest to cut and run unless he's under some sort of threat and has to. If that were the case, I doubt he'd fake the downtime as part of some backwards plan to increase deposits. That's just retarded. If anything, he wouldn't have time to do shit and SR (plus our money) would simply disappear one day. No ruse, no communication, nothing. Maybe there would be a last ditch effort at a sale, but even that would be dumb.
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Okay guys I'm done. Just don't say I didn't warn you. If you don't believe me ask me any question you'd like about gar kat gummystars familyforever usareshipper or traveller. They were all my accounts. I know a lot more about the scams and interworkings of this site than you would believe. You mods know who you are. Half of them are accomplices in most of these large scams. They're the perfect people to have on your side. Just don't say I didn't warn you guys.. :/
gummystars was hilarious, then the rest were less funny as they went on. (altho the dumb girls at uni story for kat was good for a few laughs)
why did you abandon humour?
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Okay guys I'm done. Just don't say I didn't warn you. If you don't believe me ask me any question you'd like about gar kat gummystars familyforever usareshipper or traveller.
holly sit
am I the only person on here who only has 1 account?
lol took the words right out of my mouth. I thought this was the forums not The Sims.
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I am not here to agree with the fact that SR is a scam regardless of OP being a low life scamming piece of shit ripping off people for a living I highly doubt he knows what it takes to make sure everything is good to go on backend on a popular website before releasing things to the public,
Not to mention as soon as it goes live there are a million different problems one has to sort out,
One thing I do want to make clear though is that DPR would make WAY WAY WAY more money stealing than he would off commission no matter the case or variables
say annually for example SR makes, from the article that came out recently 22M USD, well escrow fee at the lowest transaction is 10% and higher than that is like 6% so in the best case scenario 2.2M add in the minimal fee for sellers which maybe will add up to 100k, just look at the numbers in front of you... 22M>2.2M
there isnt anything we can do if DPR does decide to run however I highly doubt it why would someone do that for as easy of money as the job entails?
the day to day is mostly answer support questions and making sure the site operates properly sounds like pretty easy money to me.. Id say everyone just be patient this is what happens when sites that cant handle the load decides to open up to the masses
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I am not here to agree with the fact that SR is a scam regardless of OP being a low life scamming piece of shit ripping off people for a living I highly doubt he knows what it takes to make sure everything is good to go on backend on a popular website before releasing things to the public,
Not to mention as soon as it goes live there are a million different problems one has to sort out,
One thing I do want to make clear though is that DPR would make WAY WAY WAY more money stealing than he would off commission no matter the case or variables
say annually for example SR makes, from the article that came out recently 22M USD, well escrow fee at the lowest transaction is 10% and higher than that is like 6% so in the best case scenario 2.2M add in the minimal fee for sellers which maybe will add up to 100k, just look at the numbers in front of you... 22M>2.2M
there isnt anything we can do if DPR does decide to run however I highly doubt it why would someone do that for as easy of money as the job entails?
the day to day is mostly answer support questions and making sure the site operates properly sounds like pretty easy money to me.. Id say everyone just be patient this is what happens when sites that cant handle the load decides to open up to the masses
Yes, one number is bigger than another, smaller number. But you're considering a few points wrong; Firstly, to achieve a 2.2m commission, SR would have to do 440,000 transactions@$50 each(bare minimum) or up to... a lot more than that for a lower or MUCH lower fee. This pushes it into the realm of 100M, as I've already suggested. Secondly, SR's success depends on the bitcoin market and the exchange of bitcoins for government currency. To simply steal everyone's money and run would CRASH THE BITCOIN MARKET, rendering all the profits entirely worthless.
The only way to DPR to MAKE money from running SR is to KEEP running SR.
Consider, as a point to strengthen my argument, the 1Dky-bitcoin address that is largely believed to belong to the Road. The funds it received, as of this writing, totaled in the 600K-level of bitcoins. Forbes used that address, back when it had 400K and was valued at roughly 2.2 million, to give their 22 million-estimation. Forbes was essentially working on the more public fee-number of 10%, rather than the sliding-fee that it really is, by appearances.
If we assume these 600K bitcoins were earned only as the profit from running the road, that means that SR has done anywhere from AT LEAST 6 million bitcoins worth of transactions... to an even greater amount, if my own estimations are accurate.
This means that in the span of one year, 6 million or more bitcoins were transferred to and from the Road. If we assume that in any given month there is 1/12th of that available for a cut-and-run, that means in any given month he would make less from taking everything and disappearing than he would keeping the system running... and if he cuts and runs, the SYSTEM ENDS and nothing more is ever earned. The long-term earnings far outweigh the short-term gain from a scam.
Plus, again, it would crash the market. DPR literally can't pull a scam, at this point.
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i've been skeptical about DPR for a year now. i was only starry eyed for a month or so until i really started thinking about the nature of this criminal organization and the kind of person who would lead such a venture.
but honestly, over the year, DPR has earned my trust. I really feel that his political and philosophical convictions outweigh any opportunistic greed. if this were a scam, i think he would have packed up and left us all to drown, but it seems that he is being as transparent as possible in regards to the current situation. what would be the point of leaving the forums up & giving updates when he could just take the money and run, and then dissolve this whole community with a few mouse clicks? we are indeed in uncharted waters, and despite whatever differences in political opinion we may have, I am standing by our captain on this one.
yarrrrr!
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How can you all not see the downtime was to build up a huge amount of customers ready to deposit their coins for purchases all at once for dpr to dip with. Also kinda Funny how deposits are working just fine right now but "withdrawals won't be up for awhile.."
Be smart guys. Think about it.
I was kat gummystars and familyforever so trust me I know a very nice scam when I see one..
sr is back on m8 all sweet
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Man, 1 topic in 3 is paranoia crap. I get a fucking headache when I see just how illogical some people can get.
DPR wouldn't scam shit not only because (I sincerely believe) he's an anarchist and an idealist but also because he earns some money with this store.
Long Live SR & DPR & sellers. And long live the customers who stand by SR & its staff.
Now, let's see how many days are necessary for things to get back to normal, so I can get my MDMA and love the fuck out of you all, paranoid and non-paranoids alike! :D
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How can you all not see the downtime was to build up a huge amount of customers ready to deposit their coins for purchases all at once for dpr to dip with. Also kinda Funny how deposits are working just fine right now but "withdrawals won't be up for awhile.."
Be smart guys. Think about it.
I was kat gummystars and familyforever so trust me I know a very nice scam when I see one..
I could eat a bowl of alphabet soup....and SHIT a better conspiracy theory than that.