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Market => Product requests => Topic started by: Tienamen on September 27, 2012, 09:35 pm
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Goes by several brand names - Actiq is most common I think..
Ever since I heard about these while at a rehab I've had a yearning to try one or two..
Real and still sealed in the bag, I'd pay a premium for these.. I even read somewhere in an article about SR in the clearnet about someone selling these... But I've never seen them for sale...
Anyone else interested?
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Yeah, I possibly would be interested as well depending on price. I have a buddy that raves about these, but I've never even seen one.
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Fuck my life.
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Fuck my life.
What happenned you stopped selling them or something lol? :'(
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Fuck my life.
What happenned you stopped selling them or something lol? :'(
No, I wont comment further.
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I've always wanted to try those. I've heard great things about them but they're as common as finding a Picasso painting in a garage sale.
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I too have REALLY REALLY wanted to try them as well.....looked ALL OVER for these things, no luck...PLEASE PM me if there might be any for sale!!!
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Yeah these are my favorite. im so lucky to have a hook up on them. They are extremely rare. my friends mom who has cancer gets them, she used to get the patches but her doctor recommended the lollys. Whenever my dealer gets them i buy all that he has. i get the orange Actiq 800 mcg. you literally suck on one for like 20 seconds and just start to nodd. <3 i pay around 40$ for one but its so worth it.
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Fentanyl Lolipops are awesome; I have never heard of them and at the time it was all I could get. Turned out way better than expected!!!
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Yeah these are my favorite. im so lucky to have a hook up on them. They are extremely rare. my friends mom who has cancer gets them, she used to get the patches but her doctor recommended the lollys. Whenever my dealer gets them i buy all that he has. i get the orange Actiq 800 mcg. you literally suck on one for like 20 seconds and just start to nodd. <3 i pay around 40$ for one but its so worth it.
40$ each is a really good price. i would kill to have these again
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Aaaah, I had one of these several years back from a neighbor who got them. Jeez I'd love to find one or two these days.
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I'd probably pay $80-$100 per for these... I just want to try one...once.... call it a "bucket list" thing...
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So....I take it NO ONE can get these things???? Boy, if I were a vendor, I would be looking high and low to supply these things to the peeps who want them....it looks as tho they are wanted!!! ANYONE???? :o
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I'd die to have one of these again ahhhhhhh.
I'd be highly interested in getting some!
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Damnit! Didn't know it was Lim that was selling these before... Was before I found the 'road...
Just once... But even if they made it to the road, I have a feeling that they would end up outside my reasonable price range...
Must be just as rare as a prescribed medication, or we would see at least some on here.... Where are the foreign pharmacy types? Can't you get some of these?
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i have access to 1600mcg pops... seems to be a few folks interested. i may grab some and put them up :-)
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i have access to 1600mcg pops... seems to be a few folks interested. i may grab some and put them up :-)
Oh my god, I am SO interested!!!
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i have access to 1600mcg pops... seems to be a few folks interested. i may grab some and put them up :-)
Oh my god, I am SO interested!!!
As am I!!!!
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My grandma use to get these and never used them so i got them every mnth its been years since iv had one.. Now i just got a email from somone the other day that i was referd to that has AWSOME prices i think he said a while box for like 225$ and he claim to have every MG or what ever it is its called they come in, Iv never orderd from the guy and there is no safety if i do, So i havent tried to order from him. All though i would love to im just not willing to risk over 200 on a WU or moneygram and get screwed. If he offerd Paypal for payment maybe but i dont like ordering shit from clearnet now that iv found this wonderful world we have here, Fuck it they will show up sooner or later. I read one time where someguy said they are like 400bucks a loli or some dumb outrages price thats why there not on here... But i also bought a few a couple times for 50bucks and like someone else said after about 3min of sucking on it your feeling the nod come on...Fentynal is super strong and i know 2 ppl who have 1 died from just eating a 100mg gel patch the other tried shooting up the gel and killed him. So although its a great buzz you have gotta be careful , bet there GREAT!
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well since a few folks are interested i'll try and pick some up this week (or next the latest). i'll post in this thread once i get them and can create a listing.
obviously be careful, 1600mcg is a lot to an opioid naive person. plus the raspberry taste makes them almost hard to stop sucking on :)
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xl4 - I'm very interested, as I'm sure many others previously were. When you list, please post here so we can all find it ;-) Glad I started thread now - was planning on just being let down with no supply. This makes my week!
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Bumping this back up - Still no pops around.. xl4 - hit a snag somewhere?
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I'd love to try them
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id love to try them as well
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I'm going to keep this thread alive no matter what... Anyone else out there have a hookup for these?
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Ah man I remember hearing about these a year or two ago and have been really interested since. Especially since I found the Road. I hope xl4 comes through with some, or anybody really.
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i'll pull through for sure :) already got a few messages however i have a few things i have to take care of before i can grab them. was hoping to have them by now but it may be delayed by another week or so. i have a friends bachelor party and wedding to deal with so i won't be acquiring anything until that passes perhaps.
i'll keep this thread posted once i get them :-) i'll probably only grab a few at first, if they sell quickly i'll grab more.
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i'll pull through for sure :) already got a few messages however i have a few things i have to take care of before i can grab them. was hoping to have them by now but it may be delayed by another week or so. i have a friends bachelor party and wedding to deal with so i won't be acquiring anything until that passes perhaps.
i'll keep this thread posted once i get them :-) i'll probably only grab a few at first, if they sell quickly i'll grab more.
That's awesome man. Please keep us few in this thread in mind! I'd love to make this happen
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:D
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XL4 Do you know what a starting price would be for these lil guys?
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I'm interested also. Never had or even seen one of these lovely lollipops. I'm a high tolerant Fentanyl user. I suck on 100 microgram patches 3 times daily. I was just curious. I'm unfamiliar with the lollipops and wanted to know what, lets say a 400 microgram lollipop would be compared to the patches. I could be wrong, but since I prefer to suck on a 100 microgram patch, so thats 100 micrograms a hour for 72 hours. That equals 7200 micrograms. So would I need the big 1600 microgram lollipops to get the same effect as the patches? Any help would br greatly appreciated in figuring out how the lollipops compare to the patches.
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I'm interested also. Never had or even seen one of these lovely lollipops. I'm a high tolerant Fentanyl user. I suck on 100 microgram patches 3 times daily. I was just curious. I'm unfamiliar with the lollipops and wanted to know what, lets say a 400 microgram lollipop would be compared to the patches. I could be wrong, but since I prefer to suck on a 100 microgram patch, so thats 100 micrograms a hour for 72 hours. That equals 7200 micrograms. So would I need the big 1600 microgram lollipops to get the same effect as the patches? Any help would br greatly appreciated in figuring out how the lollipops compare to the patches.
depends on the brand but most of the 100mcg/h patches contain 10-11mg of fentanyl. 1 1600mcg pop would do you just fine :)
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Just bumping this in anticipation...
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Count me in!
I had them a few times, and they are the bomb! I'll keep checking back, it would rock to get my hands on some!!!
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they actually sell these to patients?
im going to look for them on the clearnet (not to buy derr) i wanna see reviews and strengths they come in.
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The Rx price for these is $1600 a piece for 1600mcg. So if the vendor that say's he can get them..put's them up...BUY THEM!
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finishing up a few days of a friends bachelor party... i should be grabbing some this week. will probably put 2-3 up for sale at first. if they go fast then i'll grab as many as i can. i know the supply is limited monthly but we'll see. im still figuring out pricing but they won't be cheap. granted im not going ass rape anyone ;)
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1600$ a peice for the 1600mcg.. I doubt that man.. I used to get them for $50 each and the 100mcg/h patches for free..
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The Rx price for these is $1600 a piece for 1600mcg. So if the vendor that say's he can get them..put's them up...BUY THEM!
I'm assuming you mean without insurance?
Most people's insurance cover most narcotics (at least mine does) and I don't get what your big deal is about charging people to the max just because the price without insurance is really high...
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xl4- if you happen to pick these up, PLEASE offer us some fair prices, the road is getting ridiculous.
I am not going to pay $1 per ONE THOUSANDTH OF A MILLIGRAM
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The Rx price for these is $1600 a piece for 1600mcg. So if the vendor that say's he can get them..put's them up...BUY THEM!
1.6k for one lollipop? lol!
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check it, if you look at the dosage rates of each, you'll see why the price a 1600mcg fent loli should be just a fraction of the price of a 72-hour 100mcg/hour fent patch...think about it, 72 hours of 100mcg vs. 1 hour of 1600mcg. kapeesh??
only a sucker would pay a g for a lollipop. get it?? ;D ;D ;D
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NICE $1600THAS IT PUT US DOWN FOR 10 $16,000.U TAKE FOOD STAMPS???
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NICE $1600THAS IT PUT US DOWN FOR 10 $16,000.U TAKE FOOD STAMPS???
LOLOLOL
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Well, I know Jacky sells Fentanyl...not sure if he has enough to go alongside his regulars though.
Hit em up on SR when the site is back up.
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Any updates xl4???
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we get Fentanyl but i always thought it very dangerous to work with,
maybe one of the guys will agree to make into lollys
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we get Fentanyl but i always thought it very dangerous to work with,
maybe one of the guys will agree to make into lollys
I can't speak for anyone else in this thread, but personally I want the Actiq pops. No homemade concoctions for me.
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Ba ba ba bump - thinking about these makes me so excited!
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wow you guys are really wanting these. So my buddy gets a shit load of narcotics from the VA for cheap. He just got fent suckers perscribed and he is selling the script. Im going to try and buy the whole thing when he picks it up. Whatever I get Ill post up.
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wow you guys are really wanting these. So my buddy gets a shit load of narcotics from the VA for cheap. He just got fent suckers perscribed and he is selling the script. Im going to try and buy the whole thing when he picks it up. Whatever I get Ill post up.
Keep me posted!
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for sure. ill post it on my vendor page ahead of listing them also.
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update:
i should be grabbing some this week/weekend. i planned on doing that last week but with the issues that happened i didn't know how long i would be sitting on them.
so if there aren't any issues i would say i'll have them up quite soon :)
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Good thread I believe. Probably you are masters, so how much might cost a patch of fentanyl 75 micrograms/hour for 72 hours?
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Keep us updated guys!!! :P
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Damn I also would love to get my hands on even just one.
It's too bad that at the time the vendor who was selling them I had no money and was rather newish. I figured they'd just come around easily one of these day's, but it appears I was wrong :(
If anyone (or that vendor ... whose reading this :D) could provide that'd be so great. Even if you don't list/advertise, i'd pay a premium if need be just to get one, PM me any vendor who might be willing to entertain the idea of making even one up, you'd be giving me the best Christmas gift I could ask for heh.
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I have quite a few of these and some patches (the gel kind), but I don't think it'd be worth buying a vendor account for cause I use them myself
What would people pay for actiq green 1200mcg?
And how much is a vendor acc? 150 or 250?
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I have quite a few of these and some patches (the gel kind), but I don't think it'd be worth buying a vendor account for cause I use them myself
What would people pay for actiq green 1200mcg?
And how much is a vendor acc? 150 or 250?
$150
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I remember the Actiq's fondly. I've had the raspberry flavor. Tasted like Sweet-Tarts. Very strange looking things with a plastic tube stick and a bullet shaped sucker. Of course we didn't know what the hell we were doing and we'd pull the old Tootsie Roll owl on it and crunch it up after a minute or two. For those that don't know, Fentanyl is destroyed by your stomach and can only be absorbed by your mucous membranes or skin. What a waste it was. What we should have done is simply stuck it in our cheek and let it sit there until we were set and then take it out and save it for later.
I remember that her insurance was paying something like $900 a month/box? Can't remember exactly but it was crazy expensive.
There was a guy selling generic Actiq's here last fall but they were gone before I could re-up btc. :( I also would buy some if they were available on SR.
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newbie q can u plug these? thanks.
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newbie q can u plug these? thanks.
Probably, but its not worth it. Sublingual/buccal is almost as fast.
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I'm really sorry I have been dragging my ass putting together my sellers account. I have (5) 800mcg pops in the fridge that I planned on putting up for sale on my page. I used to get the 800mcg and 1600 mcg prescribed. I had issues with the high sugar content in the Actiqs really screwing with my teeth so I found a compounding pharmacy to make them sugar free.
I will get my account going as soon as possible. I am a little embarrassed to admit that not knowing how to use the PGP thing is what's holding me back.
I also have a large supply of 40mg methadone wafers and methadone liquid concentrate. Many people have been asking for wafers and liquid and so far I don't see anyone else have it for sale.
I'm really looking forward to meeting new customers and treating them great.
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People are coming out of the woodwork now claiming to have these pops. Who's going to be the first to actually come through???
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I don't have them but do have access to them if I wanted. Been waiting to see what kind of price emerged in the market to see if it was worth my effort or not.
Has anyone figured out what price they're going to go for?
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are there any vendors selling the patches currently?
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are there any vendors selling the patches currently?
There are actually quite a few vendors with the patches in a variety of different strengths, brands, gel, non-gel, etc. Just do a search on SR and you'll pull some good results.
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are there any vendors selling the patches currently?
Just a heads up, the gel patches on SR right now are the 75mcg ones, and they are going for a little more than 200$ each.
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PS: you can get some of the non-gel ones a little cheaper
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200$ for one pop??? madness...
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200$ for one pop??? madness...
I would hope no one would pay $200 for a pop.....
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200$ for one pop??? madness...
I would hope no one would pay $200 for a pop.....
why? they contain as much fent as a 100mcg patch (1.2-1.6mg) however it's readily available in a wonderful berry flavored sucker. (well not as much as the WHOLE patch, but dosage wise on a non 72 hour period)
now i understand this is absurd pricing, but also understand this is SR. people pay 15-25 dollar a hit for LSD when in the real world i wouldn't pay more than 4-6 bucks. SR isn't a place to find wholesale deals, it's a place to find drugs you cannot find anywhere else and some people will pay a higher premium to get what they want.
i am grabbing my pops tomorrow or sunday and should have them up monday/tuesday.
im still debating on pricing but they will be in the price range of what the patches are going for. im not looking to rip people off but i do want to make it worth my efforts. my lowest price is going to be in the 160-180 range. but i can't promise that until i get them. regardless, they will sell... as with most opiates/oids here on SR.
and honestly, at that price it's a "decent" deal. just stick them in your mouth or on your cheek until you feel the effects and take it out. repeat as needed, they can last for days.
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200$ for one pop??? madness...
I would hope no one would pay $200 for a pop.....
Hopefully once the supply stabilizes the price will as well. $20-$50 seems to be the average street price, based on dosages. Sometimes the big bad 1600ug ones go for up to $100!
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200$ for one pop??? madness...
I would hope no one would pay $200 for a pop.....
why? they contain as much fent as a 100mcg patch (1.2-1.6mg) however it's readily available in a wonderful berry flavored sucker.
now i understand this is absurd pricing, but also understand this is SR. people pay 15-25 dollar a hit for LSD when in the real world i wouldn't pay more than 4-6 bucks. SR isn't a place to find wholesale deals, it's a place to find drugs you cannot find anywhere else and some people will pay a higher premium to get what they want.
i am grabbing my pops tomorrow or sunday and should have them up monday/tuesday.
im still debating on pricing but they will be in the price range of what the patches are going for. im not looking to rip people off but i do want to make it worth my efforts. my lowest price is going to be in the 160-180 range. but i can't promise that until i get them. regardless, they will sell... as with most opiates/oids here on SR.
and honestly, at that price it's a "decent" deal. just stick them in your mouth or on your cheek until you feel the effects and take it out. repeat as needed, they can last for days.
Can't argue with anything you said man. It's all about supply and demand as well, and as of right now, no one has yet to supply these. Are you going to be putting up the 1600's???
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200? wow now im excited. as a customer I think heroin would have more bang for the buck.
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we still want them soo do u take food stamps???
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we still want them soo do u take food stamps???
LOL ;D
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ok so i got 3 this weekend.... given the flaky status of SR right now im going to wait another day or so before I list the. im also feeling a bit under the weather and don't feel like taking my ass to the post office for the next few days. yes they are 1600mcg.
what i will do is perhaps start another thread and the first person (or two people) to post about wanting them i'll have a better price listed for them. the other will sell for 180-220 as of this moment. price will include shipping (priority).
i still haven't decided on the price from here on out, but they are easily available and if it works out and the first 2 go arounds sell good i will probably lower the price a good bit to make up for the demand. i just don't want to buy 30 of them and then have to sit on them :) anyways... as i said i'll update again once i put the listing up. but i wanna make sure SR doesn't take a crap on us, protects me and you :P
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I have no idea what kinda dosage is needed but I'd imagine one wouldn't eat the whole thing in one sitting. How do people usually use these? crush them into pieces and dose accordingly?
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I have no idea what kinda dosage is needed but I'd imagine one wouldn't eat the whole thing in one sitting. How do people usually use these? crush them into pieces and dose accordingly?
Oh god, I can't imagine eating an entire fentanyl lolipop in one sitting, that's a ridiculous amount of fentanyl.
I could be completely wrong though, cuz i've never had my opiates distributed to me in the form of yummy flavoured candy lol.
My GUESS would be that the user would just use it buccally (against your cheek) until they felt the appropriate amount of highness and then store the lollipop away until they next need it.
These things are NOT CHEAP and contain A LOT OF FENTANYL, so I can only imagine they are meant to be used many times over a period of time. But don't quote me on any of this, i'm just trying to relay what I consider the appropriate usage of them.
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I have no idea what kinda dosage is needed but I'd imagine one wouldn't eat the whole thing in one sitting. How do people usually use these? crush them into pieces and dose accordingly?
Oh god, I can't imagine eating an entire fentanyl lolipop in one sitting, that's a ridiculous amount of fentanyl.
I could be completely wrong though, cuz i've never had my opiates distributed to me in the form of yummy flavoured candy lol.
My GUESS would be that the user would just use it buccally (against your cheek) until they felt the appropriate amount of highness and then store the lollipop away until they next need it.
These things are NOT CHEAP and contain A LOT OF FENTANYL, so I can only imagine they are meant to be used many times over a period of time. But don't quote me on any of this, i'm just trying to relay what I consider the appropriate usage of them.
I agree with you dude. 1600 mcg of Fentanyl in one sitting is a LOT. You'd have to have a crazy high tolerance to endure that. I would think with a tolerance like such, you would be withdrawing without a heavy daily dose.
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I will be putting up the listings tomorrow evening :)
First two will be priced at 220. I may change my mind on this but I'm sure that's what we'll be looking at.
The other one I will get rid of for 160 in a thread I will post here soon. I will have the first 5 replies (of those that are interested) in the thread, give them each a number and use an online random number picker to chose the winner. I'll create a listing for that separately :)
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I will be putting up the listings tomorrow evening :)
First two will be priced at 220. I may change my mind on this but I'm sure that's what we'll be looking at.
The other one I will get rid of for 160 in a thread I will post here soon. I will have the first 5 replies (of those that are interested) in the thread, give them each a number and use an online random number picker to chose the winner. I'll create a listing for that separately :)
That's a cool idea. Will you let us know via this thread when you create the separate thread?
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thread is up!
http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=90066.0
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Hm , can anyone help with like, comparing these to something else? Sorry noob question here, but is it anything like oxycodone, or?
Jesus... I am probably going to get flack for this. Oh well.
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I have quite a few of these and some patches (the gel kind), but I don't think it'd be worth buying a vendor account for cause I use them myself
What would people pay for actiq green 1200mcg?
And how much is a vendor acc? 150 or 250?
heads up - if this douche ever starts a vendor account, stay away. scammed me for $660, and scammed at least three other users for hundreds. :\
Wait, why would anyone purchase from someone who did not have a vendor account?? Isn't that what noobs do? No offense intended, but you kind of ask for it when you do that, don't you? Good of you to come forward, tho.
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Hm , can anyone help with like, comparing these to something else? Sorry noob question here, but is it anything like oxycodone, or?
Jesus... I am probably going to get flack for this. Oh well.
Nah man. I don't think you should get any flack for asking a legit question, but there is always Google for these kinds of things. Fentanyl is like oxycodone in that it is an opiod, but is much stronger. 100 mcgs of fentanyl is roughly equivalent to 10 mgs of morphine. That should give you an idea of the strength. Fentanyl is administered much differently than oxys though, hence the use of the patches and the lollis. It can also be mainlined, smoked, etc. but simply eating a lollipop wouldn't do you nearly as much good as if you were to suck it and let it absorb transmucosally
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I use to get these wonderful loli's for 50 to 60 bucks each. Havent had them in a few years, Iv found a clearnet site somewhere that will sell 3 for 180bucks..Im gonna look and post it for you guys.. I just never decided to buy cause well of course no escrow..But site seems legit just little high on prices..If a legit seller comes up with some i will be buying.. but 220 for 1?? LOL dont think soo. Also to the person who spoke of Injecting. I highly recommend against it. My friend took a fent patch cut the gel out and injected it, and guess what! He is no longer with us.. Fent is xtremly strong. Thats why small amounts are let out of 72 hr time period. Iv cut them open myself an licked them, my grandma use to get 3 boxes of 100mg and my god!! U get sooo fuked up.. The loli's have a slightly diffrent feeling, but you dont need to suck on it no longer than a min or so.
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Also r u talking about the xl4 guy being a scammer?
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I use to get these wonderful loli's for 50 to 60 bucks each. Havent had them in a few years, Iv found a clearnet site somewhere that will sell 3 for 180bucks..Im gonna look and post it for you guys.. I just never decided to buy cause well of course no escrow..But site seems legit just little high on prices..If a legit seller comes up with some i will be buying.. but 220 for 1?? LOL dont think soo. Also to the person who spoke of Injecting. I highly recommend against it. My friend took a fent patch cut the gel out and injected it, and guess what! He is no longer with us.. Fent is xtremly strong. Thats why small amounts are let out of 72 hr time period. Iv cut them open myself an licked them, my grandma use to get 3 boxes of 100mg and my god!! U get sooo fuked up.. The loli's have a slightly diffrent feeling, but you dont need to suck on it no longer than a min or so.
if it's crazy then don't buy it. by all means use your clearnet source and grab 3 for 180. hell i would be happy if you grabbed them, jumped on your vendor account (or get one) and sell them. not against it, these are my prices and as stated i will lower them as business picks up.
things are a LOT cheaper everywhere else than the road, but people still come here and opi's are the most jacked up priced drug on SR imho. ie: 10-12 dollar 10mg hydrocodone pills.... crazy but if the damand is there then people will buy them (i have myself). not being as ass, i encourage folks to find cheaper sources by all means. but i have the product, have a good record and will make sure everyone is taken care of in the best way i can.
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Hello everyone. I'd just like to say that im not a vendor yet and this is my first post.
If the following is against the terms of SR, then the offer is off. (EDIT: Just to clarify, I respect SR's terms of service and won't be making product offers or taking anyones money untill ive bought a vendor account)
I Have 800mcg Fentora Fentanyl. It's a small Buccal tablet which goes between your top lip and gum. A gentle effervescent action speeds delivery through the membrane.
You can easily halve or quarter these, and spread them around for even quicker release. Otherwise the peak is 15 minutes. Although not quite 1600mcg, read on below for why these are much better. you could use 2 x 800mcg for a total of 1600mcg but I wouldn't do that, I guarantee that you will peak quicker and higher with one 800mcg Fentora, than with one 1600mcg Actiq. Read on for why:
I can get Actiq pops easily, but those are slowly being phased out based on newer, faster hitting, non-wasting products.
Patients switch FROM Actiq because they get fed up with all the hand work. You cant just lick them and be happy. No, you have to facially masturbate with them!
The problem with the lollys is that theyre full of sugar which stimulates saliva production which cause you to waste more than 60% of a dose.
a quick google search will tell you that fentanyl is mostly inactive if swallowed, hence the development of Oromucosal products in the first place
(although any that survives will go through the liver and turn into a slower acting and nausea inducing sedative metabolite)
Thats no good, you want the quick dopamine surge Fentanyl Euphoria™ that makes you want to get up and do things instead of monging out and falling asleep. lol.
Heres something from a site about pain.
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Fentanyl absorption from Effentora is more complete and peak serum levels are higher compared with Actiq and
non-effervescent formulations of fentanyl.
The absorption profile of Effentora is largely the result of an initial rapid
absorption from the buccal mucosa, with peak plasma concentrations following venous sampling generally attained
within an hour after transmucosal administration.
Pharmacokinetic studies have shown the mean maximum plasma
concentration of fentanyl to be higher with Effentora than Actiq in addition to the area under the plasma
fentanyl concentration versus time curve (AUC) measurement demonstrating higher absolute bioavailability and
greater total systemic exposure of fentanyl.
The total bioavailability of Effentora is greater at 65% (Figure 8 ), compared to reported values of 31% and 47% for oral opioids and Actiq, respectively.
Furthermore, Effentora exhibits earlier time to reach C max values (47 min vs. 91min) compared with Actiq.
" Effentora = Fentora. Same drug different country.
What this means is that you'll absorb 65% of Fentora, as apposed to only 47% for Actiq. Peak blood concentration occurs in 47 minutes for Fentora but 91 minutes for Actiq.
Also have 800mcg Abstral Fentanyl, It's a tiny sublingual pill, sits under the tongue. Since its so small and dissolves without insoluble fillers, I dont know about IV use or smoking. (cant advise that)
Since im not going to be so stupid to ask for payments, or FE, etc. I'm Not a vendor yet, So heres what I propose. Either:
1) You vote for the most trusted, sensible and well known member of this thread to receive a FREE dose to his/her FOAF or safe drop-off address. (I wouldnt expect a personal address)
Upon receiving said dose, the voted member then confirms this via this thread, and a new thread I'll make in "Product offers"
or
2) PM me for A) Suggestions as to how i can prove I'm not a Scammer, LE, or otherwise. Members with the best suggestions will be granted 10% discount on final price when I become a Vendor, and I might even decide to offer more than one free dose.
Lots of Love,
Epic :-*
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Hello everyone. I'd just like to say that im not a vendor yet and this is my first post.
If the following is against the terms of SR, then the offer is off.
I Have 800mcg Fentora Fentanyl. It's a small Buccal tablet which goes between your top lip and gum. A gentle effervescent action speeds delivery through the membrane.
You can easily halve or quarter these, and spread them around for even quicker release. Otherwise the peak is 15 minutes. Although not quite 1600mcg, read on below for why these are much better. you could use 2 x 800mcg for a total of 1600mcg but I wouldn't do that, I guarantee that you will peak quicker and higher with one 800mcg Fentora, than with one 1600mcg Actiq. Read on for why:
I can get Actiq pops easily, but those are slowly being phased out based on newer, faster hitting, non-wasting products.
Patients switch FROM Actiq because they get fed up with all the hand work. You cant just lick them and be happy. No, you have to facially masturbate with them!
The problem with the lollys is that theyre full of sugar which stimulates saliva production which cause you to waste more than 60% of a dose.
a quick google search will tell you that fentanyl is mostly inactive if swallowed, hence the development of Oromucosal products in the first place
(although any that survives will go through the liver and turn into a slower acting and nausea inducing sedative metabolite)
Thats no good, you want the quick dopamine surge Fentanyl Euphoria™ that makes you want to get up and do things instead of monging out and falling asleep. lol.
Heres something from a site about pain.
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Fentanyl absorption from Effentora is more complete and peak serum levels are higher compared with Actiq and
non-effervescent formulations of fentanyl.
The absorption profile of Effentora is largely the result of an initial rapid
absorption from the buccal mucosa, with peak plasma concentrations following venous sampling generally attained
within an hour after transmucosal administration.
Pharmacokinetic studies have shown the mean maximum plasma
concentration of fentanyl to be higher with Effentora than Actiq in addition to the area under the plasma
fentanyl concentration versus time curve (AUC) measurement demonstrating higher absolute bioavailability and
greater total systemic exposure of fentanyl.
The total bioavailability of Effentora is greater at 65% (Figure 8 ), compared to reported values of 31% and 47% for oral opioids and Actiq, respectively.
Furthermore, Effentora exhibits earlier time to reach C max values (47 min vs. 91min) compared with Actiq.
" Effentora = Fentora. Same drug different country.
What this means is that you'll absorb 65% of Fentora, as apposed to only 47% for Actiq. Peak blood concentration occurs in 47 minutes for Fentora but 91 minutes for Actiq.
Also have 800mcg Abstral Fentanyl, It's a tiny sublingual pill, sits under the tongue. Since its so small and dissolves without insoluble fillers, I dont know about IV use or smoking. (cant advise that)
Since im not going to be so stupid to ask for payments, or FE, etc. Heres what I propose. Either:
1) You vote for the most trusted, sensible and well known member of this thread to receive a FREE dose to his/her FOAF or safe drop-off address. (I wouldnt expect a personal address)
Meanwhile I set up a BTC donation address to cover the cost of extreme stealth worldwide shipping, to which anonymous(!) payments of 0.1BTC or more can be sent to.
Upon receiving said dose, the voted member then confirms this via this thread, and a new thread I'll make in "Product offers"
or
2) PM me for A) Suggestions as to how i can prove I'm not a Scammer, LE, or otherwise. Members with the best suggestions will be granted 10% discount on final price when I become a Vendor, and I might even decide to offer more than one free dose.
Lots of Love,
Epic :-*
Personally, I won't deal with anyone who isn't a vendor, and who doesn't have a good record dealing with customers. Not saying you're not a good dude Epic, but we're not buying Girl Scout cookies here. Gotta be as safe as possible. If you start vending and have a good reputation, then we can probably do business. Cheers
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That's quite understandable given the amount of scammers going on here on SR.
I don't have much to sell other than the 800mcg Fentanyl products (soon to be 1200mcg) and 20mg IR Oxycodone capsules which I forgot to mention.
and likely some bulk MDMA
My worry is that SR is close to being shutdown or blocked by ISP's and that it'll be alot of effort getting my money back from the initial investment.
I'm more than happy to upgrade to a vendor account. I'll get it done as soon as I can secure some interest, I won't be taking anyone's BTC untill then.
So don't worry that I'm not currently a vendor, I just want to secure some interest.
I hope I can prove my worth in due course.
The free dose offer still stands, to anyone who can provide a safe drop-off address (doesnt have to be your own)
I'll ship it free too, shouldn't cost me too much.
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That's quite understandable given the amount of scammers going on here on SR.
I don't have much to sell other than the 800mcg Fentanyl products (soon to be 1200mcg) and 20mg IR Oxycodone capsules which I forgot to mention.
and likely some bulk MDMA
My worry is that SR is close to being shutdown or blocked by ISP's and that it'll be alot of effort getting my money back from the initial investment.
I'm more than happy to upgrade to a vendor account. I'll get it done as soon as I can secure some interest, I won't be taking anyone's BTC untill then.
So don't worry that I'm not currently a vendor, I just want to secure some interest.
I hope I can prove my worth in due course.
The free dose offer still stands, to anyone who can provide a safe drop-off address (doesnt have to be your own)
I'll ship it free too, shouldn't cost me too much.
What's up with the alias dude? That just raises more eyebrows ya know?
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This is an older account I registered with intent on selling MDMA Crystal.
I only logged in to check messages. Sorry for any confusion. :-\
I can't see why I'd raise eyebrows. I'm not forcing anyone into doing business with me, just openly looking for suggestions as to how to go about my business.
I suppose I'd be better off just buying a vendor account, offering a few free samples and then charging ridiculous prices.
edit: I really can't bring myself to do that.
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This is an older account I registered with intent on selling MDMA Crystal.
I only logged in to check messages. Sorry for any confusion. :-\
I can't see why I'd raise eyebrows. I'm not forcing anyone into doing business with me, just openly looking for suggestions as to how to go about my business.
I suppose I'd be better off just buying a vendor account, offering a few free samples and then charging ridiculous prices.
edit: I really can't bring myself to do that.
I was referring to the account switch, not your business plan. I'm not trying to be a prick, or be disrespectful to you so please don't take my comments as such. Just understand, we're drug users here and are generally paranoid. It comes with the territory. I wish you only the best of luck.
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I was referring to the account switch, not your business plan. I'm not trying to be a prick, or be disrespectful to you so please don't take my comments as such. Just understand, we're drug users here and are generally paranoid. It comes with the territory. I wish you only the best of luck.
I can see where you're comming from. The account switch wasn't intentional, just logged in to check my PM's and didn't log out before switching tabs.
I've not been active on the forums much as Ive found all my answers already laid out for me by other members. I've been researching security/PGP, etc for the last month or so. I've used PGP in the past plus I'm quite familiar with the latest shipping methods but I've never sold on SR before, I think I'll need some help in that department. I didn't plan any of this, just thought I might be able to fill a void.
Not to change the subject, but If I were to become a vendor and establish initial trust, could you give me an idea of the price you'd pay for an 800mcg or 1200mcg Actiq/Fentora?
I'll log back in to the other account after posting this.
We're in the same boat. Im just as paranoid as you are ;)
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Personally I can think of nothing more enjoyable then facially masturbating with a powerful synthetic mu-opioid receptor agonist, and i'm not just saying that cuz I somehow had luck in my favour today and won XL4's contest :P
No but seriously I would want a large lollipop whose dosage intake I can control vs. a small pill whose ... well let me put in point form how stupid your argument is:
Firstly, before dissecting your poorly written argument, i've just scanned over the Europa clinical research doctrine on Effentora and will tell you that any CRA within the USA or Canada would have shut down the clinical investigator's study before even page one of it was written. It's a poorly fabricated marketing document with no clinical relevance or credibility to it whatsoever ... and it's the ONLY 'medical' documentation on this product. There aren't even any publications on NCBI regarding this product.
... Ok, well I started dissecting this joke of a medical document, but 30 minutes in of typing I hadn't even past page 4 of the document and this post was already pages long. I'm not going to go through the trouble to prove to you on a clinical evaluation level how incorrect your claims are. Effontora was designed for patients in final stage cancers, diseases that forcibly prevent the patient from interacting with and taking medicine without the constant care of a nurse. In other words, this product is for people who are in the last few weeks of their lives and are have no locomotive capabilities anymore.
I will say that their claim that it is absorbed more rapidly and completely is ... as you brit's would put it BULLOCKS (did I spell that right? lol). It claims to use a method of action of effervescence (like when you put one of those old school antacid tablets in a glass of water and it bubbles like crazy). This being the case means there is a several thousand fold increase in surface area of the saliva-fentanyl citrate complex in your mouth and that only a fraction of fentanyl itself will contact the mucosa and oral membrane's associated with buccal administration. In other words, you would swallow most of it. Fentanyl is absorbed gastrointestinally, but not before being immersed in a highly acidic bath of what we call stomach acid (lowering it's ability to cross membranes through capillary action and increasing elimination of fentanyl that is not absorbed into serum or plasma). In other words this product is meant to treat BREAKTHROUGH PAIN and it's effect's only last for a short period of time.
Actiq fentanyl-citrate lollipop's on the other hand are designed for people who are mobile, are not in the last few day's of their lives, and require a POWERFUL mu-opioid agonist due to the nature of the severity of their pain. These pills you are claiming are better are meant to be used in a closely monitored clinical setting ... one for example in which the patient does not have access to a computer, led alone the Silk Road forums through the Tor P2P network (the patient would be so far gone that what I just said would sound like giberish to them to begin with).
Actiq's are used to treat pain in people capable of carrying out life tasks and are not about to die. Effontora is used to treat people who ARE about to die as a means of reducing their suffering. A 'normal' (I hate to use that word) person would extract no beneficial effects from effontora, the drug is designed to reduce ultimate suffering, actiq's are designed as a means for people with severe pain disorder's to lead more productive lives then they would otherwise, exactly the same purpose as every other PRESCRIBED opioid or synthetic mu-opioid agonist. The only use that effontora being sold on SR would be for is to commit suicide, plain and simple.
Moreover, actiq lollipop's allow the user to modulate their usage of synthetic opioid dependent on the severity of their pain at the time. In other words, they are meant to last for a period of time, with multiple uses, an effontora tablet is a one time use product.
You don't know shit, you just copied and pasted from the marketing clinical document, i'm reading it right now and your text is word for word verbatim what is written in that document.
In other words, get the fuck out of here because for one thing these forums are here to discuss various aspects of the Silk Road marketplace, it is NOT A PLACE TO TRY AND SELL YOUR PRODUCTS. You need to be a vendor to sell products on Silk Road and I know i'm not speaking alone when I say that WE DO NOT WANT assfucks like yourself trying to sell things out of escrow and out of any security measures that silk road exists for in the first place.
You people trying to sell your wares on the forum's need to eat some effontora's and just fucking die already, you're not wanted here. Go pan handle $150 and buy a vendor account, no excuse for not coming up with $150 to vend appropriately, especially when you are trying to pawn off fentanyl based products that you likely don't even posses and are just copying and pasting from a terribly written clinical research document.
GOD DAMNIT I NEED SOME VALIUM AFTER READING YOUR SHIT ! Then you made second account with a different username? What are you, 12? Mentally handicapped? Tripping HARD?
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Ill be more than happy to provide people with Actiq instead of Fentora, upon buying a vendor account. Ill be doing so tomorrow night hopefully.
Effontora was designed for patients in final stage cancers, diseases that forcibly prevent the patient from interacting with and taking medicine without the constant care of a nurse. In other words, this product is for people who are in the last few weeks of their lives and are have no locomotive capabilities anymore.
Effentora/Fentora is prescribed for cancer pain and other off-label uses just as Actiq is.
It claims to use a method of action of effervescence (like when you put one of those old school antacid tablets in a glass of water and it bubbles like crazy). This being the case means there is a several thousand fold increase in surface area of the saliva-fentanyl citrate complex in your mouth and that only a fraction of fentanyl itself will contact the mucosa and oral membrane's associated with buccal administration.
If you use the product bucally, it stays away from the saliva.. Its actually quite the opposite regarding wastage. It's not just marketing documents that state its improved effectiveness over Actiq..
here are a few patients opinions, these are quotes from a forum.
"Due to the higher bioavailbility of fentora 65% versus actiq 25% they tell you that if you were on actiq 600, then you should start with fentora 200. The fentora absorbs much faster and you feel it much quicker. I was on actiq for 4 years and i would say fentora is 1.5 times stronger then actiq. It is also better for your teeth."
"I was at the PM this week and asked he said he usually halves the dose. So if you using 400 of actiq, your Fentora would be 200."
there are lots more. i don't have time for this..
Actiq fentanyl-citrate lollipop's on the other hand are designed for peopl who are mobile, are not in the last few day's of their lives, and require a POWERFUL mu-opioid agonist due to the nature of the severity of their pain. These pills you are claiming are better are meant to be used in a closely monitored clinical setting ... one for example in which the patient does not have access to a computer, led alone the Silk Road forums through the Tor P2P network (the patient would be so far gone that what I just said would sound like giberish to them to begin with).
who paid you to write all this crap? or are you a vendor? you can't possibly determine who's prescribed what, and in what setting..
Actiq's are used to treat pain in people capable of carrying out life tasks and are not about to die. Effontora is used to treat people who ARE about to die as a means of reducing their suffering.
Everyone ive met who's on Fentora used to be on actiq and didn't like the aspect of people asking what they have sticking out their mouth, etc.
Upon buying a vendor account, I'd be happy to provide anyone with both products for comparison.
You don't know shit, you just copied and pasted from the marketing clinical document, i'm reading it right now and your text is word for word verbatim what is written in that document.
? what, the part where i said "Here's something from a site about pain" then provided a section in quotemarks?
NOT A PLACE TO TRY AND SELL YOUR PRODUCTS.
Erm, yes it is. I already state that I'm not a vendor and not looking to take any money until I have a vendor account.
I just wanted to secure some interest as I don't have anything else to sell.
You people trying to sell your wares on the forum's need to eat some effontora's and just fucking die already, you're not wanted here. Go pan handle $150 and buy a vendor account, no excuse for not coming up with $150 to vend appropriately, especially when you are trying to pawn off fentanyl based products that you likely don't even posses and are just copying and pasting from a terribly written clinical research document.
That was a little insensitive comming from -you-. If only you were aware of the suffering I go through daily, and the thoughts that plague -my- mind..
You obviously didn't take any notice of my posts and my willingness to buy a vendor account before making any official product offers.
Have I tried to scam you? Don't you think if I were pretending to have fentanyl products, I'd start with offering the 1600mcg via PM only?
again, I did state that it was from another site before i posted the quote. I don't see anything wrong with that.
GOD DAMNIT I NEED SOME VALIUghM AFTER READING YOUR SHIT ! Then you made second account with a different username? What are you, 12? Mentally handicapped? Tripping HARD?
I don't know what to say to you anymore, except I hope you find your Quaalude's. :-[
Warm Regards,
Epic