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Discussion => Security => Topic started by: Vegeta on April 24, 2013, 07:18 am
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There's a bunch of scattered information about how to get bitcoin, how to move it, and how to cash out. Some of those methods are still valid, while others have stopped working for one reason or another. I thought it would be easier to reference if it was all in one location, with the url, short howto, ID requirements, fees, and current status.
Let's compile something like http://howdoyoubuybitcoins.com/ or https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Trade#Currency_exchanges but with a focus on anonymous to semi-anonymous methodology. The less information you give out in the process of getting bitcoins, the less likelier it is that anyone could link those bitcoins, transactions on SR, to you and your real identity. If you end up having to give your ID, perhaps during the course of a Mt Gox verification, there are still ways to mix, tumble, and obfuscate those bitcoins so they cannot reasonably be linked to you.
If you know more information about any of these or know any other methods not listed that you can vouch for, please contribute.
As always, please do your own due diligence before conducting your trasactions. Be wary of scams, especially people dealing with moneypak. Always use escrow when available, and never finalize early. This list is not a 100% thing, and is only to guide you
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Buying bitcoin
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- Bitinstant - https://bitinstant.com/ - Deposit USD Cash at locations like Walmart, CVS, and others. Deposit slip for Moneygram requires name, address and usually isn't checked. CVS may require ID, depending on regional policy and clerk's mood. Rate is guaranteed at time of deposit. Combined deposit fee of variable 3.99% (Bitinstant fee) + flat $3.95 (Zipzap fee). No signup required. DELAYS BEING REPORTED upto weeks in time due to high volume of transactions. BEWARE. (April 24, 2013)
- Localbitcoins - https://localbitcoins.com/ - Buy & sell with cash in person. Signup required to contact buyers/sellers. Status varies with individual buyer/seller. Take appropriate safety measure when meeting someone in person. (April 24, 2013) Use a guide: http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=155689
- Blue Sky Traders - http://ok2yri46aaptiu2d.onion/index.htm - Deposit USD Cash at any Bank of America location, no ID or bank account required. (April 24, 2013)
- Sugarmama on Silk Road - http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/user/aace915f06 - Buy moneypaks/reloadit cards from various stores (moneypak cards cost $4.95, reloadit cards cost $3.95), No ID required. Sell the cards to Sugar Mama for bitcoins. Fee % decreases with larger moneypak/reloadit cards: 12-20% for moneypak, 10% for reloadit. Check her listings for availability (April 24, 2013)
- #bitcoin-otc on freenode - irc://irc.freenode.net/bitcoin-otc - http://bitcoin-otc.com - Buy/sell bitcoins from individuals in exchange for various options depending on ads. Accessing freenode IRC over tor requires a registered nickname, and SASL setup. Fees depend on individual ads. Tor friendly. (April 24, 2013) Use a guide: http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=155689
- Canadian Bitcoins - https://www.canadianbitcoins.com/ - Send CAD Cash by mail or in person ?
- Coinbase - https://coinbase.com/ - ?
- Cryptocurrent - https://cryptocurrent.com/ - Website says they are registering with US FinCEN to comply with anti money laundering laws. They are accepting orders for pre-existing clients (May 10, 2013)
- Bitfloor - https://bitfloor.com/ - Deposit USD Cash at any Bank of America location using out of state deposit slip (New York), no ID or bank account required. Deposit fees % decrease with larger deposits. Buy/Sell USD for BTC at the exchange as needed. Sign up required. Tor friendly. Bitfloor has stopped trading indefinitely (April 17, 2013)
- Bitcopia - http://bitcopia.com/ - Deposit USD Cash by mail at the moment for his regular clients (Wells Fargo account closed, Bank of America funds locked for 10 days since April 24, 2013), no ID or bank account required. Bitcopia's bank accounts are closed and no longer operational (May 1, 2013)
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Moving bitcoin around
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Please be careful with these. Read up on reviews before you trust your money to strangers, making sure you don't get your own coins back and that the operator is trustable or not.
- Silk Road Tumbler - http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad - ?
- Bitcoin Fog - http://fogcore5n3ov3tui.onion/ - ?
- Blockchain Send Shared - https://blockchain.info/wallet/send-shared - ?
- Bitcoin Cache - https://www.bitcoincache.com/tools/scrambler - ?
- Bitcoin Laundry - http://bitcoinlaundry.com/ - ?
- BitLaundry - http://app.bitlaundry.com/ - ?
- The Bitcoin Washing Machine - http://xqz3u5drneuzhaeo.onion/users/corydolt/ - ?
- Trading bitcoins - Trade private keys or physical bitcoins (bitbills or casascius coins) with someone, preferably using some form of escrow. The transaction would trade ownership and their relevant transaction trails on the blockchain
- Trading altcoins - Trade bitcoins for altcoins and then trade altcoins back to bitcoin. This will remove your connection to the original bitcoin address after you sell the bitcoin for altcoins. After selling the altcoin for bitcoin, you will acquire the reputation of the new bitcoin address
- Blind Mixer DR - http://blindbtc6dnbo5x5.onion/ - Provable anonymity that doesn't require trusting the owner; trust-free. Not operational yet: in beta (April 24, 2013)
- Zerocoins - http://blog.cryptographyengineering.com/2013/04/zerocoin-making-bitcoin-anonymous.html - protocol extension to make bitcoin anonymous without needing to trust any central authority
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The exchanges
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- MtGox - https://mtgox.com/ - Not tor friendly, may require you to verify account to withdraw funds.
- Bitstamp - https://www.bitstamp.net/ - Not tor friendly. Will flag your account with "your IP is associated with criminal activity." Multiple flags will probably result in further investigation, and verification. (April 24, 2013)
- BTC-e - https://btc-e.com/ - Not tor friendly
- CampBX - https://campbx.com - ?
- Virtex - https://www.cavirtex.com/ - ?
- Bitfloor - https://bitfloor.com/ - Tor friendly. Trading suspended indefinitely (April 17, 2013)
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Selling bitcoin
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- Localbitcoins - https://localbitcoins.com/ - Buy & sell with cash in person. Signup required to contact buyers/sellers. Status varies with individual buyer/seller. Take appropriate safety measure when meeting someone in person. (April 24, 2013)
- Sugarmama on Silk Road - http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/user/aace915f06 - Sell bitcoins for moneypaks/reloadit cards. Apply moneypak/reloadit cards to prepaid debit cards and spend like a credit card/paypal or withdraw cash from ATM. No fees to sell bitcoins. Check her listings for availability (April 24, 2013)
- Canadian Bitcoins - https://www.canadianbitcoins.com/ - Sell bitcoins and get CAD cheque by mail or CAD Cash by mail or in person - ?
- #bitcoin-otc on freenode - irc://irc.freenode.net/bitcoin-otc - http://bitcoin-otc.com - Buy/sell bitcoins from individuals in exchange for various options depending on ads. Accessing freenode IRC over tor requires a registered nickname, and SASL setup. Fees depend on individual ads. Tor friendly. (April 24, 2013)
- FastCash4Bitcoins - https://fastcash4bitcoins.com - Sell bitcoins and get USD via ACH (Direct Deposit), Bank Wires, Paypal, Dwolla, or check in mail. Not sure about ID requirements. 1% fee for Paypal, and anywhere from $1-$21 depending on other methods of sale. Tor friendly or not? (April 24, 2013)
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There's a bunch of scattered information about how to get bitcoin, how to move it, and how to cash out. Some of those methods are still valid, while others have stopped working for one reason or another. I thought it would be easier to reference if it was all in one location, with the url, short howto, fees, and current status. If you know more information about any of these or know any other methods not listed that you can vouch for, please contribute. Let's compile something like http://howdoyoubuybitcoins.com/ but better.
As always, please do your own due diligence before conducting your trasactions. This is not a 100% thing
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Buying bitcoin
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- Bitinstant - https://bitinstant.com/ - Deposit USD Cash at locations like Walmart, CVS, and others. Deposit slip for Moneygram requires name, address and usually isn't checked. Rate is guaranteed at time of deposit. Combined deposit fee of variable 3.99% (Bitinstant fee) + flat $3.95 (Zipzap fee). No signup required. DELAYS BEING REPORTED upto weeks in time due to high volume of transactions. BEWARE. (April 24, 2013)
- Localbitcoins - https://localbitcoins.com/ - Buy & sell with cash in person. Signup required to contact buyers/sellers. Status varies with individual buyer/seller. Take appropriate safety measure when meeting someone in person. (April 24, 2013)
- Blue Sky Traders - http://ok2yri46aaptiu2d.onion/index.htm - Deposit USD Cash at any Bank of America location, no ID or bank account required. (April 24, 2013)
- Bitcopia - http://bitcopia.com/ - Deposit USD Cash at any Bank of America location (Wells Fargo account closed), no ID or bank account required (April 24, 2013)
- Canadian Bitcoins - https://www.canadianbitcoins.com/ - Send CAD Cash by mail or in person ?
- Sugarmama on Silk Road - http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/user/aace915f06 - Buy moneypaks/reloadit cards from various stores (moneypak cards cost $4.95, reloadit cards cost $3.95), No ID required. Sell the cards to Sugar Mama for bitcoins. Fee % decreases with larger moneypak/reloadit cards: 12-20% for moneypak, 10% for reloadit. Check her listings for availability (April 24, 2013)
- Coinbase - https://coinbase.com/ - ?
- Cryptocurrent - https://cryptocurrent.com/ - Suspended? (April 10, 2013)
- Bitfloor - https://bitfloor.com/ - Deposit USD Cash at any Bank of America location using out of state deposit slip (New York), no ID or bank account required. Deposit fees % decrease with larger deposits. Buy/Sell USD for BTC at the exchange as needed. Sign up required. Tor friendly. Bitfloor has stopped trading indefinitely (April 17, 2013)
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Moving bitcoin around
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- Silk Road Tumbler - http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad - ?
- Bitfog - http://fogcore5n3ov3tui.onion/ - ?
- Blockchain Send Shared - https://blockchain.info/wallet/send-shared - ?
- Blind Mixer DR - http://blindbtc6dnbo5x5.onion/ - Provable anonymity that doesn't require trusting the owner; trust-free. Not operational yet: in beta (April 24, 2013)
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The exchanges
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- MtGox - https://mtgox.com/ - Not tor friendly, may require you to verify account to withdraw funds.
- Bitstamp - https://www.bitstamp.net/ - Supposedly tor friendly
- BTC-e - https://btc-e.com/ - Not tor friendly
- CampBX - https://campbx.com - ?
- Virtex - https://www.cavirtex.com/ - ?
- Bitfloor - https://bitfloor.com/ - Tor friendly. Trading suspended indefinitely (April 17, 2013)
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Selling bitcoin
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- Localbitcoins - https://localbitcoins.com/ - Buy & sell with cash in person. Signup required to contact buyers/sellers. Status varies with individual buyer/seller. Take appropriate safety measure when meeting someone in person. (April 24, 2013)
- Sugarmama on Silk Road - http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/user/aace915f06 - Sell bitcoins for moneypaks/reloadit cards. Apply moneypak/reloadit cards to prepaid debit cards and spend like a credit card/paypal or withdraw cash from ATM. No fees to sell bitcoins. Check her listings for availability (April 24, 2013)
- Canadian Bitcoins - https://www.canadianbitcoins.com/ - Sell bitcoins and get CAD cheque by mail or CAD Cash by mail or in person - ?
Right after Bitfloor went down, I was one of the first members here that began experimenting with and recommending Bitstamp.net. At the time, it "appeared" to be TOR-friendly. What I have since learned in the past couple of weeks is that in fact, Bitstamp is NOT TOR-friendly and WILL flag your account under circumstances where multiples users are logged into Bitstamp with the same TOR-IP. This is unlike Bitfloor, which was PERFECT, since Bitfloor never even monitored that stuff, BUT, Bitstamp DOES. Now, they haven't started closing accounts as of yet after flagging the account, you simply have to log out, change your IP, and then log back in; HOWEVER, I am concerned that after multiple flags (I have only experience one thus far), you are susceptible to account closure / further investigation. By the way, when Bitstamp flags the account, it does state something along the lines of "your computer's information/ip/etc has been logged into the console" and that "your IP is associated with criminal activity." The latter statement makes me believe that Bitstamp may also be flagging certain known TOR IP's now that have been entered into their database, in addition to unknown IP's that register multiple users at once.
All in all, using Bitstamp.net for us anonymous folks is starting to appear to me as a more problematic prospect than I initially imagined. I apologize if this bursts anybody's bubble, but the truth is the truth, and since we are all pretty much on the same boat as pioneers to this anonymous game, I figured I'd update you all with my progress.
Infinite Love,
UANDiR1
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Well done! Will be linking this in my guide for newbs thread!
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Right after Bitfloor went down, I was one of the first members here that began experimenting with and recommending Bitstamp.net. At the time, it "appeared" to be TOR-friendly. What I have since learned in the past couple of weeks is that in fact, Bitstamp is NOT TOR-friendly and WILL flag your account under circumstances where multiples users are logged into Bitstamp with the same TOR-IP. This is unlike Bitfloor, which was PERFECT, since Bitfloor never even monitored that stuff, BUT, Bitstamp DOES. Now, they haven't started closing accounts as of yet after flagging the account, you simply have to log out, change your IP, and then log back in; HOWEVER, I am concerned that after multiple flags (I have only experience one thus far), you are susceptible to account closure / further investigation. By the way, when Bitstamp flags the account, it does state something along the lines of "your computer's information/ip/etc has been logged into the console" and that "your IP is associated with criminal activity." The latter statement makes me believe that Bitstamp may also be flagging certain known TOR IP's now that have been entered into their database, in addition to unknown IP's that register multiple users at once.
All in all, using Bitstamp.net for us anonymous folks is starting to appear to me as a more problematic prospect than I initially imagined. I apologize if this bursts anybody's bubble, but the truth is the truth, and since we are all pretty much on the same boat as pioneers to this anonymous game, I figured I'd update you all with my progress.
Infinite Love,
UANDiR1
UANDiR1, thanks for the update on Bitstamp. It's a shame about them not being tor friendly, because I've definitely seen threads here suggesting that Bitstamp is the go-to after Bitfloor died. I've updated the post to reflect that. I haven't used Bitstamp myself so I can't vouch for it. So I'll be relying on crowdsourced information here and whatever I encounter myself to keep this up to date as much as possible.
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V +1 for providing good informative content
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Right after Bitfloor went down, I was one of the first members here that began experimenting with and recommending Bitstamp.net. At the time, it "appeared" to be TOR-friendly. What I have since learned in the past couple of weeks is that in fact, Bitstamp is NOT TOR-friendly and WILL flag your account under circumstances where multiples users are logged into Bitstamp with the same TOR-IP. This is unlike Bitfloor, which was PERFECT, since Bitfloor never even monitored that stuff, BUT, Bitstamp DOES. Now, they haven't started closing accounts as of yet after flagging the account, you simply have to log out, change your IP, and then log back in; HOWEVER, I am concerned that after multiple flags (I have only experience one thus far), you are susceptible to account closure / further investigation. By the way, when Bitstamp flags the account, it does state something along the lines of "your computer's information/ip/etc has been logged into the console" and that "your IP is associated with criminal activity." The latter statement makes me believe that Bitstamp may also be flagging certain known TOR IP's now that have been entered into their database, in addition to unknown IP's that register multiple users at once.
All in all, using Bitstamp.net for us anonymous folks is starting to appear to me as a more problematic prospect than I initially imagined. I apologize if this bursts anybody's bubble, but the truth is the truth, and since we are all pretty much on the same boat as pioneers to this anonymous game, I figured I'd update you all with my progress.
Infinite Love,
UANDiR1
UANDiR1, thanks for the update on Bitstamp. It's a shame about them not being tor friendly, because I've definitely seen threads here suggesting that Bitstamp is the go-to after Bitfloor died. I've updated the post to reflect that. I haven't used Bitstamp myself so I can't vouch for it. So I'll be relying on crowdsourced information here and whatever I encounter myself to keep this up to date as much as possible.
I know what you mean, a couple of those threads (such as this one: http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=148934.msg1029298#msg1029298, titled, "BitFloor Alternative For BTC TRADING is now BitStamp") were created by me, so I can't even begin to express my disappointment. Anyhow, I will keep you all updated on any further developments on this matter. Great thread by the way, love the organization.
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awesome thread! thanks sir. I've been looking for new methods from moneypak. Moneypak is full of scammers now!
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awesome thread! thanks sir. I've been looking for new methods from moneypak. Moneypak is full of scammers now!
Yeah, the moneypak deals are scams waiting to happen. The only reliable one I've heard about sleuthing around is Sugar Mama. Maybe I should add warnings about scams and problems like verification holds and withdrawal limits while unverified into the OP
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So do you think itd be fairly legit to send my coins straight to my SR acount from blockchain just using the send shared option?
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So do you think itd be fairly legit to send my coins straight to my SR acount from blockchain just using the send shared option?
Yes, because SR has a BTC tumbler, making your coins "safe"
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Buying bitcoin
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- Bitinstant - https://bitinstant.com/ - Deposit USD Cash at locations like Walmart, CVS, and others. Deposit slip for Moneygram requires name, address and usually isn't checked. Rate is guaranteed at time of deposit. Combined deposit fee of variable 3.99% (Bitinstant fee) + flat $3.95 (Zipzap fee). No signup required. DELAYS BEING REPORTED upto weeks in time due to high volume of transactions. BEWARE. (April 24, 2013)
*** CVS requires ID currently, and I have had a friend burned, 3 week of no answer and then it works, I think it is suspect but it does work... U will see the stories
- Bitcopia - http://bitcopia.com/ - Deposit USD Cash at any Bank of America location (Wells Fargo account closed), no ID or bank account required (April 24, 2013)
I think dude's account got audited... check out his site **Clearnet Warning** I wouldn't use a cash email option for someone who was burned as such.... I would not may be ok all know if so
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Great post veg +1 :)
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Well done! Will be linking this in my guide for newbs thread!
If I dont +1 you on your evil 666 post I would be too nice. thank for your thread. I had a question from earlier I had a suggestion for that would be helpful to me, and others.. :)
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Buying bitcoin
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- Bitinstant - https://bitinstant.com/ - Deposit USD Cash at locations like Walmart, CVS, and others. Deposit slip for Moneygram requires name, address and usually isn't checked. Rate is guaranteed at time of deposit. Combined deposit fee of variable 3.99% (Bitinstant fee) + flat $3.95 (Zipzap fee). No signup required. DELAYS BEING REPORTED upto weeks in time due to high volume of transactions. BEWARE. (April 24, 2013)
*** CVS requires ID currently, and I have had a friend burned, 3 week of no answer and then it works, I think it is suspect but it does work... U will see the stories
- Bitcopia - http://bitcopia.com/ - Deposit USD Cash at any Bank of America location (Wells Fargo account closed), no ID or bank account required (April 24, 2013)
I think dude's account got audited... check out his site **Clearnet Warning** I wouldn't use a cash email option for someone who was burned as such.... I would not may be ok all know if so
Hm, that's interesting about CVS. I've done Moneygram transfers via CVS and they didn't ID me. Maybe its a regional policy or depends on the clerks? Bitinstant works when it works, but when it doesn't expect to be stuck in support ticket systems for weeks. That was before the April 10 rush though. Maybe it's changed now and is more reliable?
And thanks for the headsup on Bitcopia. Adding all that to the post now
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Hm, that's interesting about CVS. I've done Moneygram transfers via CVS and they didn't ID me. Maybe its a regional policy or depends on the clerks? Bitinstant works when it works, but when it doesn't expect to be stuck in support ticket systems for weeks. That was before the April 10 rush though. Maybe it's changed now and is more reliable?
Hmm, which now makes me wonder. My friend lives in BFE and he did not get Id'd he said. I assumed it was BFE CVS... The CVS in Jr. BFE here has a "red batphone" you use, where you punch in info, speak to someone, and get ID'd and swiped by clerk.... maybe he doesn't have "batphone"... U can use forms at urs? You or anyone else seen this batphone surely some have.....?
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BitInstant at CVS does not require an ID. These are clerks who don't know the rules. Tell them you've never had to use an ID before and you don't have it handy and they will usually continue to transaction. If not, just go to the next CVS.
Having said that, I personally think BlueSkyTraders is a great option. Totally anonymous.
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BitInstant at CVS does not require an ID. These are clerks who don't know the rules. Tell them you've never had to use an ID before and you don't have it handy and they will usually continue to transaction. If not, just go to the next CVS.
Having said that, I personally think BlueSkyTraders is a great option. Totally anonymous.
She probably wasn't smart but I dont want to judge. This was way back after whoever from that District Representin said whatever yada yada Fincin this that and this, oooh sayin somethhin about coins and money and guns. Bitcopia was the WFarguhOH version of BST that was perfect; check his site in the dark he's seems... anti-happy. Hope blue sky stays well for all.
There will always be a way to get them because where there is a demand someone will supply. Its a truth. Buy em from the Pirate here... that'd be cool. ?
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Forgive my (probable) ignorance as I'm rather new to this, but would a service such as the one by Sugarmama be the safest way to get bitcoins into you SR account, purely in terms of anonymity? And if so, why isn't everyone doing it? I was particularly looking at Bitcoin's http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/user/c536b90105 Cash in the mail to bitcoins service.
Thanks
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+1 for you. Great post!
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Forgive my (probable) ignorance as I'm rather new to this, but would a service such as the one by Sugarmama be the safest way to get bitcoins into you SR account, purely in terms of anonymity? And if so, why isn't everyone doing it? I was particularly looking at Bitcoin's http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/user/c536b90105 Cash in the mail to bitcoins service.
Thanks
It looks like Sugarmama's fees are a bit on the high side: 10%-20% in addition to the cost of the moneypak/reloadit card. Compare this to bitinstant: 3.99 flat fee + 3.99% fee if you use their moneygram options. Then compare this to what Bitfloor used to be: no flat fee, somewhere under 2-3% on deposit + miniscule trading fees to convert.
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Forgive my 'tardmess.
But. Wouldn't it work if you smurfed it ? Go and gather some homeless people or willing friends to buy them and resell them. I mean like a business. Direct people to go and buy them with their ID and sell them to a site online that buys them back from them without ID. So the people getting verified and ID d have no connection to Silk Road at all. Just regular joes selling their cards to pirates online.
A site would make it easy and comfortable for them to do it. Make it look like its a green recycling thing with the plastic cards. Sell your plastic to us for recycling. We buy plastic cards.!
There is lots of ways I think for local shady guys to in on this. Guys who don't know shit about the net but can still sell services to us folks. Easy street level shit. Better than selling crack. It's just plastic cards that get thrown away anyway. Use your ID to make you money. . . No risk somehow.
I'm trying to see the risk, but can't. It would be petty crime if caught. You'd walk because they can't prove you we're going to use the coins for anything illegal.
Legally, I'm not sure if coins can be bought and sold like any product. I mean, can someone sell third 'used coins' to others ? People with ID , need some quick cash, they go a special site and sign up. They then go out and buy coins with their ID and come back to the site to sell their coins or buy coins to trade later into cash.
I think it can be done.
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Best way to get Bitcoins:
Sell drugs on SR. :)
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Forgive my 'tardmess.
But. Wouldn't it work if you smurfed it ? Go and gather some homeless people or willing friends to buy them and resell them. I mean like a business. Direct people to go and buy them with their ID and sell them to a site online that buys them back from them without ID. So the people getting verified and ID d have no connection to Silk Road at all. Just regular joes selling their cards to pirates online.
A site would make it easy and comfortable for them to do it. Make it look like its a green recycling thing with the plastic cards. Sell your plastic to us for recycling. We buy plastic cards.!
There is lots of ways I think for local shady guys to in on this. Guys who don't know shit about the net but can still sell services to us folks. Easy street level shit. Better than selling crack. It's just plastic cards that get thrown away anyway. Use your ID to make you money. . . No risk somehow.
I'm trying to see the risk, but can't. It would be petty crime if caught. You'd walk because they can't prove you we're going to use the coins for anything illegal.
Legally, I'm not sure if coins can be bought and sold like any product. I mean, can someone sell third 'used coins' to others ? People with ID , need some quick cash, they go a special site and sign up. They then go out and buy coins with their ID and come back to the site to sell their coins or buy coins to trade later into cash.
I think it can be done.
That seems like a decent idea. Kind of like using your girlfriend as proxy: http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=151746.0 but on a bigger scale and with random people on the street. That way they know little about what's going on and have very little information on you to squeal about. Not only do you get anonymous bitcoins, you could use all these new bitcoins to feed a bitcoin laundering service to wash dirty bitcoins too. A lot is possible with this kind of service.
As far as risk to the smurf goes, why would they trust some site asking to transfer bitcoins to them (since btc transactions are irreversible). You would be asking them to trust that they will get their money + profit back after the btc transaction. In their eyes, you could just run away with the bitcoins. Either you setup your own escrow service, use a third party escrow, or front the money + profit. All of those are bad ideas except setting up your own escrow, as an additional cost.
My question is how would you pay the smurfs once they transfer the bitcoins to you? Does that need to be anonymous? Why or why not?
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I just did a transfer from blockchain to SR how long until to BTC will be available in my account?
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Nevermind its there now.. was just a little worried i fucked up somewhere all good now!
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Cryptocurrent is suspended? The website, updated April 24, says they are doing business with previous customers, but I have yet to hear back on my latest email. This is by far the longest it's taken CC to reply. Does anybody know what's up? Are there any other similarly anonymous and hassle-free ways to obtain BTC? Thanks.
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Great thread!
I've used Bitinstant & Bitcopia, I think I'll be giving BST a go next time I need some BTC. I don't like Bitinstant wanting too much info.