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Discussion => Security => Topic started by: shutdem on February 20, 2013, 10:48 pm
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2 questions
1 I just opened mtgox. I am not verified so can i not transfer coins to SR after i fund via bitinstant/?
2 what is bitstamp? i tried bitstamp.com and nothing? so how does it work. What should i do please guys i mean using bitinstant. What is the best thing will mtgox let me transfer without verified i did a month ago! but read post someone couldnt. Now confused and what is up with bitstamp how does it work?
let me know and i will +1 all positive input
thanks bros and sisters of the road!
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The bitinstant problem is temporary (aren't we talking about the same exact thing on another thread?).
Bitstamp is a BTC exchange service, like Mt. Gox, only not retarded. You deposit USD, and then trade USD for BTC. You can then sent BTC to another address.
Bitfloor is another such service. I like that one better because it's US-based, and works with Bank of America. All you need for an account is an email address. To do a deposit, you just tell bitfloor how much, and they give you an account number. You walk into a Bank of America, fill out a deposit slip (you don't need a bank account), and your money's there the same day. Then, it's just like Gox or bitstamp. Trade USD>BTC and transfer to SR.
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2 questions
1 I just opened mtgox. I am not verified so can i not transfer coins to SR after i fund via bitinstant/?
2 what is bitstamp? i tried bitstamp.com and nothing? so how does it work. What should i do please guys i mean using bitinstant. What is the best thing will mtgox let me transfer without verified i did a month ago! but read post someone couldnt. Now confused and what is up with bitstamp how does it work?
let me know and i will +1 all positive input
thanks bros and sisters of the road!
Are you in the US? Do you have a bank of America close by?
If you do I recomend blueskytraders, here is their .onion site: http://ok2yri46aaptiu2d.onion/index.htm
I use to use bitinstant cash deposit -------------> BTC address, but now it is not available, so I tried BST.
It was fast and way less sketchy than Walmart cash deposit IMO. They only took $15 out of the $500 that I deposited, I think that is way better than you will get after moving your coins and everybody getting there cut.
Just my .02, Ill never use bitinstant again. Sorry for not answering your question, Im not sure about bitstamp or Mtgox or any of that.
GT
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i think it's
https://www.bitstamp.net
NOT (dot)com
I tried it today. super easy. Wired the money at a local supermarket to a company, Bitstamp credited my bitstamp acct with USD, then I bought BTC with those USD and transferred them this way. Nothing here yet, but waiting on coin sometimes takes hours. whateva
EDIT: BST seems legit. Maybe I'll try that next time they're available.
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It was fast and way less sketchy than Walmart cash deposit IMO. They only took $15 out of the $500 that I deposited, I think that is way better than you will get after moving your coins and everybody getting there cut.
A Bitfloor deposit of $500 will cost you $5.09 in fees, plus whatever it costs you to get to a Bank of America.
And, you're right. It's (clearnet warning) www.bitfloor.com.
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It was fast and way less sketchy than Walmart cash deposit IMO. They only took $15 out of the $500 that I deposited, I think that is way better than you will get after moving your coins and everybody getting there cut.
A Bitfloor deposit of $500 will cost you $5.09 in fees, plus whatever it costs you to get to a Bank of America.
And, you're right. It's (clearnet warning) www.bitfloor.com.
Nice!
1. Now, so you get the information.
2. Do the bank of A....
Then...
do you have to purchase BTC with the money you send them, on their site?
Or do they do they Bitcoins for money swap themselves?
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do you have to purchase BTC with the money you send them, on their site?
Yeah, if there's a "catch", I guess that's it. But, you get real-time market data, just like Mt. Gox, and you can place immediate orders (where the price is whatever the trading value is at the time of trade), or you can do a limit order. I don't have a lot of experience with that, but you basically gain a percentage point by allowing a day for the transfer to go through.
I did an immediate order, paid about $30 per BTC, and sent what I wanted over to my SR address. It was fast.
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do you have to purchase BTC with the money you send them, on their site?
Yeah, if there's a "catch", I guess that's it. But, you get real-time market data, just like Mt. Gox, and you can place immediate orders (where the price is whatever the trading value is at the time of trade), or you can do a limit order. I don't have a lot of experience with that, but you basically gain a percentage point by allowing a day for the transfer to go through.
I did an immediate order, paid about $30 per BTC, and sent what I wanted over to my SR address. It was fast.
Sleepy2k,
Thanks for the information.
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Thank you all! that sounds like great ideas give me 2 min ill give you all a bump up in karma! for replying quck and intelligent,
so sleepy2k
So bitfloor is what bitinstant used to be? you can do a bank deposit; couple questions
1; any other bank than boa? there is not one close!
2 is there a daily limit or limit per deposit as bitinstant was $1000 at a time and 2gs a day
3; is it instant depost into your account? and can you log in from tor or do they flag that?
Green turtle, with BST they are like a vendor on Sr? i am unclear, I mean tonight i am stuck needing coins.
So for every1 have to bitinstant tonight all banks closed here. and i need coins tonight!
So my question is mtgox or bitstamp?
and i have a mtgox i just opened is it true if i am not verified if i send funds to it tonight and purchase coins. can i transfer to SR i had a old account unverified and it sent to SR no problem. has this changed: I am a little familiar with mt gox
and if i do bitstamp. Its the same i put in my bitinstant info and get cash to on account to by the coins. Trust me i would like to know more about bitfloor because that sounds fucking great and way less!
so please keep the knowledge keep flowing i am +1 you all id do 2 if id let me! thank bros!
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BST wont be able to help you tonight.
1:I emailed him last night with the amount of cash I had and my BTC address
2: This morning he emailed me his BOA account number and told me a specific amount to deposit, for tracking purposes.
3: Make the deposit with cash, no ID or personaly identafiable information, keep reciept.
4: Get confirmation email and check BTC wallet for coins.
You can do it outside of SR, but I "purchased" a listing just so I could leave feedback.
Good luck.
GT
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sleepy,
So if you could elaborate a more on the bitfloor ihave 3 question last post please let me know and you all see i did give the +1 karma to all:)
thank you
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So bitfloor is what bitinstant used to be? you can do a bank deposit; couple questions
1; any other bank than boa? there is not one close!
2 is there a daily limit or limit per deposit as bitinstant was $1000 at a time and 2gs a day
3; is it instant depost into your account? and can you log in from tor or do they flag that?
1. Right now, the only ways to get money into your bitfloor account are: in person at Bank of America; BTC address to BTC address; or deposit via CapitalOne P2P checking account (the account is free, but there goes your anonymity). This is processed through LocalTill, which charges a measly 1% - there are no other fees.
2. There are no limits posted on bitfloors website.
3. The funds are (damn near) immediately available as USD in your bitfloor account. From there, you have two options for getting BTCs. You can do an immediate order, which trades USD for BTC at the current market rate. You can also do something called a limit order, which may take longer but you end up getting a better exchange rate.
Once you do the exchange, the BTCs are immediately available for withdrawal. You just specify the address, and you're good to go. It hit my SR account in less than 20 minutes (which was way faster than bitinstant).
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So bitfloor is what bitinstant used to be? you can do a bank deposit; couple questions
1; any other bank than boa? there is not one close!
2 is there a daily limit or limit per deposit as bitinstant was $1000 at a time and 2gs a day
3; is it instant depost into your account? and can you log in from tor or do they flag that?
1. Right now, the only ways to get money into your bitfloor account are: in person at Bank of America; BTC address to BTC address; or deposit via CapitalOne P2P checking account (the account is free, but there goes your anonymity). This is processed through LocalTill, which charges a measly 1% - there are no other fees.
2. There are no limits posted on bitfloors website.
3. The funds are (damn near) immediately available as USD in your bitfloor account. From there, you have two options for getting BTCs. You can do an immediate order, which trades USD for BTC at the current market rate. You can also do something called a limit order, which may take longer but you end up getting a better exchange rate.
Once you do the exchange, the BTCs are immediately available for withdrawal. You just specify the address, and you're good to go. It hit my SR account in less than 20 minutes (which was way faster than bitinstant).
is the website bitfloor.com? and is there anyway other than boa? i mean any other bank chain????????????????
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Bitfloor sounds awesome. I've been looking for a new way to obtain bitcoins. I'm also curious if anyone knows if you will get flagged for logging in through Tor?
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is the website bitfloor.com? and is there anyway other than boa? i mean any other bank chain?
The URL is (clearnet warning) https://www.bitfloor.com/. Right now, BofA is the only bank chain on board. Well, them and the CapitalOne P2P accounts.
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sleepy
Thank you and excuse my fried brain but clearnet means you cant use tor right? or can?
again i am only fucked because NO BOA WITHIN 4 HOURS!!!!!!!!! sucks I mean i would love that i loved bitinstants bank option and it was chase was only one close. I wonder if i write and tell them how much i would be able to spend if they would open another branch or take into con asideration because i have spent over $18gs all bitinstant, not my money i buy for cancer patients long story but neither here nor there.
anonymous2012
With bitstamp you said wire transfer you mean can you pay like without and account is that an option? or is it what i think account to account:( let me know and i appreciate every 1s help! i +1 all i can! if i could again i would!
thanks let me know i need coins!!!
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I'm doing a order through Ziggap.com with a Chase bank cash deposit -> BTC address. I'm going to make the cash deposit here in about an hour when the branch opens. They also take MG, WU but they say it can take up to 3 days to confirm those payments, while a Chase bank deposit is almost instant. I'll keep you updated as this might be a great new service if you have a Chase bank in your area.
I'm still nervous to use bitinstant for anything after seeing so many posts about problems with them. I hope they get their shit together soon because they were great for all my transactions up until about a week ago.
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I'm doing a order through Ziggap.com with a Chase bank cash deposit -> BTC address. I'm going to make the cash deposit here in about an hour when the branch opens. They also take MG, WU but they say it can take up to 3 days to confirm those payments, while a Chase bank deposit is almost instant. I'll keep you updated as this might be a great new service if you have a Chase bank in your area.
I'm still nervous to use bitinstant for anything after seeing so many posts about problems with them. I hope they get their shit together soon because they were great for all my transactions up until about a week ago.
LET ME KNOW ABOUT THIS I HAVE CHASE! THAT WOULD BE FUCKING GREAT. FUCK WE OR MG, UNLESS INSTANT:) NO BUT FORREAL I APPRECIATE IT AND SO WILL EVERYONE. aRE THEY ACCREDITED? HOW DID YOU HEAR OF ZIGGAP? let me know when you get coins also what is up with the limits, minimums? whats the url for ziggap
thanks
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sleepy
Thank you and excuse my fried brain but clearnet means you cant use tor right? or can?
again i am only fucked because NO BOA WITHIN 4 HOURS!!!!!!!!! sucks I mean i would love that i loved bitinstants bank option and it was chase was only one close. I wonder if i write and tell them how much i would be able to spend if they would open another branch or take into con asideration because i have spent over $18gs all bitinstant, not my money i buy for cancer patients long story but neither here nor there.
anonymous2012
With bitstamp you said wire transfer you mean can you pay like without and account is that an option? or is it what i think account to account:( let me know and i appreciate every 1s help! i +1 all i can! if i could again i would!
thanks let me know i need coins!!!
Yes, you pay cash to wire the money to your bitstamp account using moneygram - for this you can go in with fake info (name/address/phone/birthday/etc) and "pay your bill" using moneygram. Bitinstant still sets it up for you, but instead of directing the money to BITCOIN ADDRESS, you direct it to YOUR BITSTAMP ID NUMBER. you have to have a bitstamp account, though (with the fake info you just used for your moneygram thing). This step will take 4% from you, the normal bitinstant fee + 3.95 for moneygram.
Once you've done the whole moneygram thing at walmart or whatever, you have money in your bitstamp account. Use that money to buy coins. This step has no fees.
Once you've bought bitcoins on your bitstamp account, you can send them directly to your bitcoin address - this step only has a 0.5% fee.
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I'm doing a order through Ziggap.com with a Chase bank cash deposit -> BTC address. I'm going to make the cash deposit here in about an hour when the branch opens. They also take MG, WU but they say it can take up to 3 days to confirm those payments, while a Chase bank deposit is almost instant. I'll keep you updated as this might be a great new service if you have a Chase bank in your area.
I'm still nervous to use bitinstant for anything after seeing so many posts about problems with them. I hope they get their shit together soon because they were great for all my transactions up until about a week ago.
LET ME KNOW ABOUT THIS I HAVE CHASE! THAT WOULD BE FUCKING GREAT. FUCK WE OR MG, UNLESS INSTANT:) NO BUT FORREAL I APPRECIATE IT AND SO WILL EVERYONE. aRE THEY ACCREDITED? HOW DID YOU HEAR OF ZIGGAP? let me know when you get coins also what is up with the limits, minimums? whats the url for ziggap
thanks
I saw Ziggap mentioned in a thread here and also the CEO for Ziggzap posts on bitcointalk.com and I found him in the Bitinstant customer service thread.
The URL is www.ziggap.com.
Not sure about them being accredited, or there limits or minimums, you should check their site.
I haven't recieved my coin yet and I don't want to post to much info here about it because it could be linked to clearnet posts but PM me if you want details about my order process so far.
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Payment Method:
MoneyGram
Rate:
฿1.00 = $30.87107 USD
$1.00 USD = ฿0.03239279
Max Order Size:
$750.00 USD
just went and checked ziggap out ;)
i like the idea of bitfloor though :-\
ehh...either way i guess i have to make a choice LOL :P
Peace,
ChemCat
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Bitfloor is my go to choice for deposits now. I have two BoA within a 4 mile radius so I like to switch it up after every other purchase. My first deposit I f*cked up pretty bad (my fault, when buying BTC) but everytime after that has been flawless
If there's a Chase nearby, I would recommend bitme. The only thing I don't like is that there's a $500 weekly limit and you have to send a copy of your receipt to their support. Also, it takes a bit longer than bitfloor for your funds to show up. But other than that, I haven't had any problems
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Bitfloor is my go to choice for deposits now. I two BoA within a 4 mile radius so I like to switch it up after every other purchase. My first deposit I f*cked up pretty bad (my fault, when buying BTC) but everytime after that has been flawless
If there's a Chase nearby, I would recommend bitme. The only thing I don't like is that there's a $500 weekly limit and you have to send a copy of your receipt to their support. Also, it takes a bit longer than bitfloor for your funds to show up. But other than that, I haven't had any problems
hiya comomug :)
well tell me how ya fucked up so we dont make those same mistakes :)
if you will, Please
Peace,
ChemCat
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This is a changing landscape, folks. Looking at the history, Bitfloor used to accept deposits from WellsFargo, but that ended last year for whatever reason. Every now and again, all of these services get hacked or otherwise digitally attacked, and outages ensue. Then, new services pop in and out (cryptocurrent - coming soon to a browser near you).
There are so many scammers, at least there are a few companies doing it right. And, as far as Bitinstant goes, eventually they'll start doing transfers to BTC addys again.
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Well it was more of a careless error on my part. I had about $900 deposited and when I went to trade for BTC, the asking price was at a nice $26.xx. So when I hit 'buy' I didn't even read the pop-up asking if that price was okay and I just clicked confirm or whatever it asks. Turns out at that instant, the price somehow jumped to $34.99 for literally 2 seconds and thats the price I got them at. Ended up losing a good $200+
So lesson here, when a confirmation pop-up appears, don't rush it and make sure you are okay with the price!
Bitfloor is my go to choice for deposits now. I two BoA within a 4 mile radius so I like to switch it up after every other purchase. My first deposit I f*cked up pretty bad (my fault, when buying BTC) but everytime after that has been flawless
If there's a Chase nearby, I would recommend bitme. The only thing I don't like is that there's a $500 weekly limit and you have to send a copy of your receipt to their support. Also, it takes a bit longer than bitfloor for your funds to show up. But other than that, I haven't had any problems
hiya comomug :)
well tell me how ya fucked up so we dont make those same mistakes :)
if you will, Please
Peace,
ChemCat
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+1 to ya @ camomug
:)
So, i guess i am just gonna step right onto that floor and bid for some BTC's ;)
(Slaps Forehead) :P
Peace & Thanks camomug :)
ChemCat,
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Bitinstants site now shows NO reserves with BTC-e and Bitstamp and bitstamp has been removed from the to dropdown box.
Also if you look at the bitinstant thread at bitcointalk.com you will see how many people are waiting for funds on orders going back for weeks with the newest ones being bitinstant -> bitstamp. I wouldn't recomend using bitinstant for anything right now.
GOOD NEWS:
My Ziggap.com Chase bank -> BTC address just went through. So total time from deposit to coins was 4 hours, which I'm ok with as this is the first time I have used them and bitinstant being shit.
Hope this helps
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+1 to ya @ rapala :)
i wanna use ziggap and bitfloor as well LOL ;D
geez i better get some sleep and think on this or i might as well just do 2 transactions, one from each :-\
LOL
Peace,
ChemCat
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+1 to ya @ rapala :)
i wanna use ziggap and bitfloor as well LOL ;D
geez i better get some sleep and think on this or i might as well just do 2 transactions, one from each :-\
LOL
Peace,
ChemCat
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chemcat,
hey been 2 days. So did you give the ziggap a try. i dont have boa around only chase so. That would be nice to know! ALSO IF YOU DID HOW DID IT WORK AND HOW MUCH WAS THE TRANSACTION?
THANK YOU IN ADVANCE CHEMCAT
AND ANY OTHER ZIGGAP USERS WHO CAN ATTEST TO THEM BEING LIABLE
THANKS
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@ sleepy, when you go into the bank for bitfloor what do you say, you want to wire funds? And do you just write down the account info>?
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@ sleepy, when you go into the bank for bitfloor what do you say, you want to wire funds? And do you just write down the account info>?
Not even. You just go grab a deposit slip from the desk and put "Local Till LLC" in the line for account name, and you put in the account number that bitfloor gives you when you set up the deposit. If you go through the window, you can just ask for a deposit slip, and if the teller asks you if it's in-state or out of state, you say out of state unless you live in New York. Then, after you fill out the slip, you just give it to the teller with your cash. No one's ever asked me for an ID, because, after all, what is she checking? My name and info is nowhere on the slip.
It's too easy.
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chemcat,
hey been 2 days. So did you give the ziggap a try. i dont have boa around only chase so. That would be nice to know! ALSO IF YOU DID HOW DID IT WORK AND HOW MUCH WAS THE TRANSACTION?
THANK YOU IN ADVANCE CHEMCAT
AND ANY OTHER ZIGGAP USERS WHO CAN ATTEST TO THEM BEING LIABLE
THANKS
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Heya shutdem :)
Sorry, i been workin more hours ;)
yeppers, been doin the MG thing with ziggap :)
they seem to be working quite well for me so far....3 transactions....the final fee was the MG fee of ANOTHER 23.74
i just go to the ziggap website...do what it says..it's been pretty simple so far, the only thing that i dont like is the amount of time it takes LOL
the longest it's taken so far is around 4 and a quarter hours...
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i haven't used bitfloor yet, but I'm going too. Thanks SleepyEyes for all the good info!
Do be advised that you have to check a box that says you will provide a government issued ID if requested (to register at bitfloor).
That always makes me a little nervous. But I guess in that case, you just say you don't have it and if they don't fund your payment, just leave.
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I didn't see an answer to the question do you get flagged by using bitfloor via Tor? I saw some mention to "clearnet warning," but I don't know what that means.
Anybody know?bk
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I also have no BOA near me....I am still in America, last time I checked
so I am trying out the ziggap.com. It takes western union, which I think is very anonymous. still in process of figuring it out but it seems legit. I have to figure how many BTC to buy...as I cant say "but $100 of bit coins..."
will let you know how it goes
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I also have no BOA near me....I am still in America, last time I checked
so I am trying out the ziggap.com. It takes western union, which I think is very anonymous. still in process of figuring it out but it seems legit. I have to figure how many BTC to buy...as I cant say "but $100 of bit coins..."
will let you know how it goes
let me know i have no BOA either anywhere! itd be nice to have another option! thank you
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ziggap worked just fine alto the rate they charge for the bit coins is a BIT higher than the going rate
SR says 39.333 a bit coin, he charged me 42 something... but hey, I found a solution to no bitinstant. I set up an email for it to send confirmations to and they send an email when the money is picked up and credited to your wallet
It worked flawlessly.
EXCEPT...I can see it in blockchain but not on SR (9 confirmations)....weird
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Chase bank to Bitme
Wells Fargo to Bitcopia
Bank of America to Bitfloor
Moneygram to Bitstamp
Bank of America (I think) to Cryptocurrent.
There's plenty of options.