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Discussion => Silk Road discussion => Topic started by: XxWINxX94x23 on September 30, 2013, 08:43 pm

Title: Potential U.S. Government shutdown & Silk Road
Post by: XxWINxX94x23 on September 30, 2013, 08:43 pm
In light of recent congressional activity, it is possible the United States government could shut down for a period of time. Many parts can lose funding and consequently be temporarily inactive, from what I understand.

Here is the what the DEA has to say about it: CLEARNET
http://www.justice.gov/dea/resource-center/doing-business.shtml

"NOTICE TO ALL DRUG ENFORCEMENT ADMINISTRATION (DEA) CONTRACTORS POTENTIAL LAPSE OF APPROPRIATIONS

Funding for the Drug Enforcement Administration (DEA) under its current appropriations act expires on September 30, 2013.  As of this date, no new appropriations act or continuing resolution has been passed.  Unless such legislation is enacted before the end of FY2013, there will be no annual appropriations available to fund activities of the DEA for Fiscal Year 2014 (FY 2014) on October 1, 2013.

The effect of a lapse of funding on a particular contract, order, and other procurement commitment (hereafter, Contract) is dependent on the source of funding and terms of the particular Contract and the activities the Contract supports.  It is therefore not possible to provide comprehensive guidance covering all circumstances and situations.

Contractors and their employees performing under contracts, purchase orders, or task/delivery orders will be reviewed by DEA Program personnel to determine if conditions are met for continuance of performance while under a government shutdown. 

Contracting Officers (COs) in the Office of Acquisition and Relocation Management will contact Contractor Companies directly regarding orders for which some or all of the contractor personnel have been deemed “non-excepted” and should not come to work at DEA starting on October 1, 2013.  If a CO does not contact the Contractor Company directly with the names of contractor personnel who should not come to work at DEA, then all contractor personnel on that order are expected to report to work on October 1 at their normal reporting times and locations."



So maybe there will be less LE for a short amount of time?

Anyone have any intriguing opinions on how the gov't shutdown could affect the Silk Road?

   

Title: Re: Potential U.S. Government shutdown & Silk Road
Post by: BTC4CASH UK on September 30, 2013, 08:48 pm
I'm afraid I don't now anything about this but subbing to hear from others that do....
Title: Re: Potential U.S. Government shutdown & Silk Road
Post by: modziw on September 30, 2013, 08:54 pm
Doesn't seem like they're getting anywhere fully funded so I don't think we will notice too much except for one very important thing:

Our numerous government customers will not get a paycheck from the many law abiding citizens who pay their taxes, and therefore our sales may drop.

Fucking Republicans.

Modzi
Title: Re: Potential U.S. Government shutdown & Silk Road
Post by: cantellya on September 30, 2013, 11:27 pm
In light of recent congressional activity, it is possible the United States government could shut down for a period of time. Many parts can lose funding and consequently be temporarily inactive, from what I understand.

Here is the what the DEA has to say about it: CLEARNET
http://www.justice.gov/dea/resource-center/doing-business.shtml

"NOTICE TO ALL DRUG ENFORCEMENT ADMINISTRATION (DEA) CONTRACTORS POTENTIAL LAPSE OF APPROPRIATIONS

Funding for the Drug Enforcement Administration (DEA) under its current appropriations act expires on September 30, 2013.  As of this date, no new appropriations act or continuing resolution has been passed.  Unless such legislation is enacted before the end of FY2013, there will be no annual appropriations available to fund activities of the DEA for Fiscal Year 2014 (FY 2014) on October 1, 2013.

The effect of a lapse of funding on a particular contract, order, and other procurement commitment (hereafter, Contract) is dependent on the source of funding and terms of the particular Contract and the activities the Contract supports.  It is therefore not possible to provide comprehensive guidance covering all circumstances and situations.

Contractors and their employees performing under contracts, purchase orders, or task/delivery orders will be reviewed by DEA Program personnel to determine if conditions are met for continuance of performance while under a government shutdown. 

Contracting Officers (COs) in the Office of Acquisition and Relocation Management will contact Contractor Companies directly regarding orders for which some or all of the contractor personnel have been deemed “non-excepted” and should not come to work at DEA starting on October 1, 2013.  If a CO does not contact the Contractor Company directly with the names of contractor personnel who should not come to work at DEA, then all contractor personnel on that order are expected to report to work on October 1 at their normal reporting times and locations."



So maybe there will be less LE for a short amount of time?

Anyone have any intriguing opinions on how the gov't shutdown could affect the Silk Road?

   

That's the first good thing I've heard about the U.S. Shutdown. :)

At least the mail still works, right?
Title: Re: Potential U.S. Government shutdown & Silk Road
Post by: mushmold on September 30, 2013, 11:45 pm
Well the fucking USPS better the fuck work! WE are dependent on it, more ways then One ;-) But with Congress trying to kill it with the 75 year retirement fund bullshit...  But I think they are almost operating with limited public funding, mostly for Rural areas that could never come close to breaking even.   

But Yeah, here is to lost funding to the DEA!!! Fucking Mother Fuckers!

OK, I got that off my chest :-)

mush


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That's the first good thing I've heard about the U.S. Shutdown. :)

At least the mail still works, right?
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Title: Re: Potential U.S. Government shutdown & Silk Road
Post by: danconia on September 30, 2013, 11:54 pm
I hope the whole damned government shuts down and stays shut down.  Except for USPS, of course.  But let's be honest this is all just political theater and I doubt any critical services will shut down.  Even if there are "furlough days" or whatever those employees will be back to work soon and will probably get paid for even for their days off.

I suppose UPS and FedEx would be fine if there aren't any customs agents to check the mail =D
Title: Re: Potential U.S. Government shutdown & Silk Road
Post by: p0och on September 30, 2013, 11:58 pm
The good news is that the USPS is self funded hence will remain in operation however the DEA is considered a critical component so will also remain fully operational during the period.

Status quo
Title: Re: Potential U.S. Government shutdown & Silk Road
Post by: weather420 on October 01, 2013, 12:07 am
I am not standing up for either of the two American political parties, however, the rationale behind the effort to de-fund the ACA or Obamacare is valid. Modzi, you are allegedly an attorney or were; do you agree with the SCOTUS's ruling, using an absurd severalty position, altering the legislation to comport with the Constitution? The healthcare law was defined as a tax.I have no love for the alphabet soup agencies or our bloated bureaucracy. Our country is 17 trillion in debt...Ponder the size of this figure...
Title: Re: Potential U.S. Government shutdown & Silk Road
Post by: IDoNotLikeProhibition on October 01, 2013, 12:48 am
Doesn't seem like they're getting anywhere fully funded so I don't think we will notice too much except for one very important thing:

Our numerous government customers will not get a paycheck from the many law abiding citizens who pay their taxes, and therefore our sales may drop.

Fucking Republicans.

Modzi

Maybe the charity event from FiberOptics should donate to them instead of donating to the homeless children?! :D
Title: Re: Potential U.S. Government shutdown & Silk Road
Post by: danconia on October 01, 2013, 03:01 am
Clearnet:
http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2013/09/27/us/who-goes-to-work-during-government-shutdown.html?_r=0

Sounds like our good ol' Uncle Hank and the rest of his DEA shills won't be taking any time off. 
Title: Re: Potential U.S. Government shutdown & Silk Road
Post by: astor on October 01, 2013, 04:31 pm
Clearnet:
http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2013/09/27/us/who-goes-to-work-during-government-shutdown.html?_r=0

Sounds like our good ol' Uncle Hank and the rest of his DEA shills won't be taking any time off.

Yeah, everything in the OP is directed at DEA contractors. DEA employees will still be working, even if they aren't paid. Same for:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/government-shutdown-begins-senate-expected-to-reject-latest-house-proposal/2013/10/01/ef464556-2a88-11e3-97a3-ff2758228523_story.html

"Others, including Border Patrol officers, prison guards and air traffic controllers, were required to work but were told they may not be paid."

"The Justice Department will continue criminal law enforcement but suspend many civil cases"

They're never telling LE to go home. Plus this will probably only last a few days to a few weeks at most.
Title: Re: Potential U.S. Government shutdown & Silk Road
Post by: DrMDA on October 02, 2013, 02:06 pm
Wait am I reading this thread correctly. SR is going to be taken down because it is a government site and is losing it's funding?? ???
Title: Re: Potential U.S. Government shutdown & Silk Road
Post by: Mister Mortimer on October 02, 2013, 02:57 pm
Yeah, everything in the OP is directed at DEA contractors. DEA employees will still be working, even if they aren't paid.

maybe if they aren't paid they won't do their job properly.....

what? there's no harm in living in a dream ;)