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Discussion => Security => Topic started by: meatwad on August 23, 2013, 04:06 pm

Title: How to purchase VPN with BTC anonymously?
Post by: meatwad on August 23, 2013, 04:06 pm
With TORmail compromised, how can one purchase a VPN anonymously anymore?  PIA asks for an email address when paying in BTC, not sure how the other VPN's that accept BTC work.  Can anyone with knowledge of paying for a VPN with BTC chime in?
Title: Re: How to purchase VPN with BTC anonymously?
Post by: Rhett Butler on August 23, 2013, 04:29 pm
You would just need another anon e-mail addy, right?

Just get a new e-mail
Title: Re: How to purchase VPN with BTC anonymously?
Post by: astor on August 23, 2013, 06:52 pm
Unless you run the VPN over Tor, it's useless to pay "anonymously".

A VPN over Tor gives you a persistent exit node that makes you more vulnerable to deanonymization. If you need a non-exit node IP, point the Tor Browser at a random web proxy and use a different one each time.
Title: Re: How to purchase VPN with BTC anonymously?
Post by: meatwad on August 23, 2013, 07:56 pm
What do you mean run the VPN over TOR?    Do you mean buy the VPN using TOR to connect to the website?
Title: Re: How to purchase VPN with BTC anonymously?
Post by: Rhett Butler on August 23, 2013, 09:07 pm
Quote from: astor on August 23, 2013, 06:52 pm
Unless you run the VPN over Tor, it's useless to pay "anonymously".

A VPN over Tor gives you a persistent exit node that makes you more vulnerable to deanonymization. If you need a non-exit node IP, point the Tor Browser at a random web proxy and use a different one each time.

How do you point the browser at a random web proxy?
Title: Re: How to purchase VPN with BTC anonymously?
Post by: astor on August 23, 2013, 09:40 pm
Quote from: meatwad on August 23, 2013, 07:56 pm
What do you mean run the VPN over TOR?    Do you mean buy the VPN using TOR to connect to the website?

No, I mean proxy the VPN connection over Tor.

If you connect to the VPN server directly over clearnet, they know your IP address, so it's not anonymous. Thus paying with bitcoins is pointless.
Title: Re: How to purchase VPN with BTC anonymously?
Post by: astor on August 23, 2013, 09:46 pm
Quote from: Rhett Butler on August 23, 2013, 09:07 pm
How do you point the browser at a random web proxy?

Pick one of these web proxies and enter the URL of the site you want to reach: http://www.publicproxyservers.com/proxy/list_rating1.html

Different proxies offer different features. Not all of them will proxy SSL connections, for example. Some of them will include headers that tell the destination site the connection is being proxied. You want a proxy marked as "HiAn" on that list (high anonymity, ie, the X-Forwarded-For header is not set).

You can google for other web sites that list thousands of web proxies like that.
Title: Re: How to purchase VPN with BTC anonymously?
Post by: Euphoric on August 23, 2013, 11:03 pm
Register a free email address that isn't hosted in the US, and sign-up through TOR.

Just use privateinternetaccess.com they accept bitcoin.

Never use a US based email service, no matter how much privacy they promise...Lavabit is a prime example.