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Discussion => Silk Road discussion => Topic started by: HollyMolly2012 on July 30, 2013, 06:37 pm
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Just came in ..
Hey HollyMolly,
ich schreibe für VICE Deutschland. (vice.com)
Ich habe gesehen, dass du ein zuverlässiger Verkläufer aus Deutschland hier bei SilkRoad bist.
Ich wollte anfragen, ob du uns ein Interview geben würdest?
Wir würden gerne einen Videobeitrag zum Deepweb machen.
Ähnlich wie z.B. das Drogen-Video von unseren Kollegen aus UK:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fvN7fKmCoXA
Das ganze würde natürlich vollkommen Annonym stattfinden. Wir haben viel Erfahrung mit sensiblen Produktionen und können sicher stellen, dass deine Identität auf keinen Fall bekannt wird. Gerne kannst du dich uns auch nur Vermummt zeigen bzw. würden wir den Film sowieso zur Unkenntlichkeit verpixeln und deine Stimme verzerren.
Wir würden dir in dem Fall, dass du dich mit uns triffst und uns ein Interview gibst, auch Geld dafür anbieten.
Wir würden dir im Vorfeld natürlich alle nötigen Beweise schicken bzw. erbringen damit du dir sicher sein kannst, dass wir wirklich Journalisten von VICE sind und nicht die Polizei die dich verarschen will. Gerne auch jede Art von Überprüfung die du dir einfallen lässt! Wir möchten, dass du dich sicher fühlst, wenn du dich mit uns treffen würdest.
Yours
VICE
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I write for VICE Germany. (vice.com)
I have seen that you are a reliable Verkläufer from Germany here at SilkRoad.
I wanted to ask if you would give us an interview?
We would like to make a contribution to DeepWeb video.
Similarly, such as the drug video of our colleagues from the UK:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fvN7fKmCoXA
The whole place would of course completely annonym. We have much experience with sensitive productions and can ensure that your identity is known in any case. Feel free to disguise yourself and just show us anyway and we would pixelate the film beyond recognition and distort your voice.
We would be you., In the case that you meet with us and give us an interview, also offer money for it
We would of course send you in advance and provide all necessary evidence so that you know for sure that we are really journalists from VICE and not trying to cheat the police yourself. And often in any kind of review you can think of you! We want you to feel safe when you would meet with us.
Yours
VICE
What do you guys thinking about this?
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My answer:
Sorry but we don't reveal anything what comes around and goes around trought the Darknet.
It's totally a stupid idea for showing this for public. It's must stay underground
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should have sent them an encrypted text document with nothing but gibberish ::)
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Don't talk to the media. Vice also cannot be trusted with sensitive information. Here is why:
Vice editor Rocco Castoro wrote an article about six months ago about John McAfee on the run for murder in Central America. He took a photo of the two with his iPhone. He then preceded to post that photo with the article on Vice.com. Obviously, the metadata revealed the exact GPS coordinates of the photo, and thus the fugitive that was the subject of the article. To be a head editor of something"journalistic" and not know these kind of things is down right dangerous to your sources.
They don't deserve to be called journalists. Vice is full of a bunch of hipsters that are just glorified bloggers, that every once in awhile post cool videos. I wouldn't trust them with my freedom.
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Journalists are bound to not talking about stuff like that to LEO. If of course they're real Journalists.
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We have much experience with sensitive productions and can ensure that your identity is known in any case.
We can ensure that your identity is known in any case. :) Especially your criminal case. ;D
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That's a point, I wonder when the first Gonzo journalist actually does a write up on the road, complete with pics, and video of their drug, being delivered and being consumed. You can't count OZ freelancer as she doesn't touch drugs, and is not a Gonzo.
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We have much experience with sensitive productions and can ensure that your identity is known in any case.
We can ensure that your identity is known in any case. :) Especially your criminal case. ;D
Ha! ;D
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Get mounds of drugs. Take those drugs together. Make them do the interview while committing crimes on camera so you have leverage material. Make a vow and bond it in each others blood.
Then LOL and leave.
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Tell them you want 10k for an interview and they wont bother you anymore. i got also got some messages from (journalists /docu makers) and i told them give me 10k euro in bitcoins and i will answer some questions ;)
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That's a point, I wonder when the first Gonzo journalist actually does a write up on the road, complete with pics, and video of their drug, being delivered and being consumed. You can't count OZ freelancer as she doesn't touch drugs, and is not a Gonzo.
Im gonna do it!! Seriously. This is the best idea ever. Im gonna run through the process of buying from the silk road and at the end im gonna snort a whole bunch of ketamine and lie on the floor k-holing.
i could make it look like a small flipbook. like a tourist guide. 15 pages tops. I could sell it on the street. just walking around giving it to people. mostly school kids. highschoolers. (silk road address and how to use tor is included of course. )
also i would include info about safe injection points on the body. how the fuck are they supposed to know how to shoot heroin if noone show them? 15-16 year olds are dumb. they might miss the hit!!!! and noone likes that.. right fellas?
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They don't deserve to be called journalists. Vice is full of a bunch of hipsters that are just glorified bloggers, that every once in awhile post cool videos. I wouldn't trust them with my freedom.
100% accurate IMO. I've watched the shows on HBO and just about every one of them I think to myself that they're being dishonest about one aspect or another. Then shortly after there was a bunch of news/editorials about Shane Smith (founder/owner of vice) being an egomaniac and willing to lie about anything to make money. Go figure.
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That's a point, I wonder when the first Gonzo journalist actually does a write up on the road, complete with pics, and video of their drug, being delivered and being consumed. You can't count OZ freelancer as she doesn't touch drugs, and is not a Gonzo.
Im gonna do it!! Seriously. This is the best idea ever. Im gonna run through the process of buying from the silk road and at the end im gonna snort a whole bunch of ketamine and lie on the floor k-holing.
i could make it look like a small flipbook. like a tourist guide. 15 pages tops. I could sell it on the street. just walking around giving it to people. mostly school kids. highschoolers. (silk road address and how to use tor is included of course. )
also i would include info about safe injection points on the body. how the fuck are they supposed to know how to shoot heroin if noone show them? 15-16 year olds are dumb. they might miss the hit!!!! and noone likes that.. right fellas?
No you're a bit childish, I didn't state it would be a good Idea. I asked why hasn't no-body done it. I think someone will do it soon, as there are videos on Youtube, but all they show is the user's mouse clicking on listings and ordering. I mean a Journo, who will show the whole process from start to finish, not write about other people doing it. You should educate yourself before commenting.
Not that you'd be capable, you can't even get it right when referring to yourself, Its I not i.
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Keep Silk Road anonymous... no interviews...
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That's a point, I wonder when the first Gonzo journalist actually does a write up on the road, complete with pics, and video of their drug, being delivered and being consumed. You can't count OZ freelancer as she doesn't touch drugs, and is not a Gonzo.
Im gonna do it!! Seriously. This is the best idea ever. Im gonna run through the process of buying from the silk road and at the end im gonna snort a whole bunch of ketamine and lie on the floor k-holing.
i could make it look like a small flipbook. like a tourist guide. 15 pages tops. I could sell it on the street. just walking around giving it to people. mostly school kids. highschoolers. (silk road address and how to use tor is included of course. )
also i would include info about safe injection points on the body. how the fuck are they supposed to know how to shoot heroin if noone show them? 15-16 year olds are dumb. they might miss the hit!!!! and noone likes that.. right fellas?
No you're a bit childish, I didn't state it would be a good Idea. I asked why hasn't no-body done it. I think someone will do it soon, as there are videos on Youtube, but all they show is the user's mouse clicking on listings and ordering. I mean a Journo, who will show the whole process from start to finish, not write about other people doing it. You should educate yourself before commenting.
Not that you'd be capable, you can't even get it right when referring to yourself, Its I not i.
that was a joke!! (I always get negged when I try to make a joke) >:(
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I dunno, I would have at least led them to try and at least verify their identity in some way before telling them to GTFO
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Fuck these journalists. Don't let them do LE's job for them. Anything you say to them can be used against you in a court of law.
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Lighten up lads and lasses, the automatic translation was worth the price of admission alone!
Anybody sensible won't have anything to do with this. BUT, this is not the realm of the entirely sensible. The drugs may have something to do with it.
Watched some VICE stuff online and it mostly bored me to tears, especially that Morris twat. Surprising since his his Dad is a genius film-maker.
Take care.
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haha *journalists*
tell them: "sure thing, i'd be happy to grant you an interview. meet me outside the presidential palace in Damascus. i'm there every day at dusk"
that ought to scare them right off. lol
xoxo
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You can't count OZ freelancer
I'm right here you know. I can hear you.
I hate not being counted :( ::)
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You can't count OZ freelancer
I'm right here you know. I can hear you.
I hate not being counted :( ::)
^^ lol we still love you oz ;D we just think you should take some lsd ;)
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Any mainstream publicity is good for all of us vendors. Silkroad should start working on their marketing directly with VICE.
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I think there has been enough publicity in the mainstream media, and elsewhere easily accessible online, that made the Silk Road known as a concept and working possibility. The only thing that hasn't really been well publicized since the first initial articles are that fair prices, high quality, good service, and selection are all abound on the site. And they may beat what you can find on the street, depending on where you live and who you know. In my view, vendors shouldn't be worrying about more publicity to increase sales. The access to far more people via the internet than one could reasonably have in their own circle of friends, or network of customers, should be enough to make any good business thrive.
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NO.
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I don't know why people here are so hostile to the idea of giving a 1 on 1, encrypted interview to Vice. If anything, that's the first place I'd go to be interviewed myself. Yes, they make mistakes sometimes. So do other very well known reporters some of whom have taken home Pulitzers. Just make sure that if you do agree to an interview that you don't give away any personally identifying or specific geographical location info. Otherwise you should be alright.
Like it or not, SOMEONE on SR will agree to an interview with the media. Might as well be with Vice giving a proper perspective on what really goes on here. After all the fucking nonsense that's come out about SR online it would be good to see a truthful account for once. If anything just because prohibition has to be shown to be the oppressive, bullshit regime that it really is. Someone has to call it out and there's no better place to make that happen than here.
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If I was vice I would be trying to ask bruce campbell right now.
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I don't know why people here are so hostile to the idea of giving a 1 on 1, encrypted interview to Vice. If anything, that's the first place I'd go to be interviewed myself. Yes, they make mistakes sometimes. So do other very well known reporters some of whom have taken home Pulitzers. Just make sure that if you do agree to an interview that you don't give away any personally identifying or specific geographical location info. Otherwise you should be alright.
Like it or not, SOMEONE on SR will agree to an interview with the media. Might as well be with Vice giving a proper perspective on what really goes on here. After all the fucking nonsense that's come out about SR online it would be good to see a truthful account for once. If anything just because prohibition has to be shown to be the oppressive, bullshit regime that it really is. Someone has to call it out and there's no better place to make that happen than here.
Or OzFreelancer. You could always talk to her ::)
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eek
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I love vice! This will be the best article yet by far.
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In the style of Howard Stern or David Letterman ( circa 1990's) I think it would be best to round up and bunch of intelligible homeless people (by either putting an ad in Craigslist or some Homeless newspaper) and have them do the Vice.com interview.
Find out how much Vice.com is offering to pay for the interview, Cut the introduction letter and post it wherever you choose to find the "vendor" and clue your "vendor standee" on some important facts.
Most importantly tell them "The Phrase that Pays" which is every time the word "Bitcoin" is used they need to say "Shit, I'll suck your dick for a Bitcoin" and they'll have a chance to win the weekly prize.
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I hate VICE.
Tell em to get fucked.....
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How to become a vice journalist:
1. Wear a stupid hat
2. Own a fixie bike
3. Continually expose things that it is morally wrong to expose if you're a believer in said cause, while pretending to be a believer in said cause.
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In the style of Howard Stern or David Letterman ( circa 1990's) I think it would be best to round up and bunch of intelligible homeless people (by either putting an ad in Craigslist or some Homeless newspaper) and have them do the Vice.com interview.
Find out how much Vice.com is offering to pay for the interview, Cut the introduction letter and post it wherever you choose to find the "vendor" and clue your "vendor standee" on some important facts.
Most importantly tell them "The Phrase that Pays" which is every time the word "Bitcoin" is used they need to say "Shit, I'll suck your dick for a Bitcoin" and they'll have a chance to win the weekly prize.
yes yes yes
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That's a point, I wonder when the first Gonzo journalist actually does a write up on the road, complete with pics, and video of their drug, being delivered and being consumed. You can't count OZ freelancer as she doesn't touch drugs, and is not a Gonzo.
Im gonna do it!! Seriously. This is the best idea ever. Im gonna run through the process of buying from the silk road and at the end im gonna snort a whole bunch of ketamine and lie on the floor k-holing.
i could make it look like a small flipbook. like a tourist guide. 15 pages tops. I could sell it on the street. just walking around giving it to people. mostly school kids. highschoolers. (silk road address and how to use tor is included of course. )
also i would include info about safe injection points on the body. how the fuck are they supposed to know how to shoot heroin if noone show them? 15-16 year olds are dumb. they might miss the hit!!!! and noone likes that.. right fellas?
No you're a bit childish, I didn't state it would be a good Idea. I asked why hasn't no-body done it. I think someone will do it soon, as there are videos on Youtube, but all they show is the user's mouse clicking on listings and ordering. I mean a Journo, who will show the whole process from start to finish, not write about other people doing it. You should educate yourself before commenting.
Not that you'd be capable, you can't even get it right when referring to yourself, Its I not i.
that was a joke!! (I always get negged when I try to make a joke) >:(
Well sorry if it was lost on me. I didn't neg you, I don't bother with the system 8)
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Nice to see that the most broo's
think the same!!
8)
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fuck vice
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not a whole lot to report on SR, its a drug site, yay.
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In general I feel like any extra publicity for the road is generally a bad thing. I am not a vendor so I guess biased in that regard but I would think the bigger it gets the harder it becomes to tolerate for international LE. If it stays at nuisance level thats probably a good thing but if it really becomes the "Amazon" of drugs they will deal with it and the politicians will start with their press conferences again.
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In a sentence, I personally think that allowing any outsider journalist (or claim to be journalist), no matter who good their intentions may be, would bring nothing good to the SR Community, but has a lot of potential to bring harm or even disaster to to the Community.
Actually, I think that patswin explained much of this concept very well:
In general I feel like any extra publicity for the road is generally a bad thing. I am not a vendor so I guess biased in that regard but I would think the bigger it gets the harder it becomes to tolerate for international LE. If it stays at nuisance level thats probably a good thing but if it really becomes the "Amazon" of drugs they will deal with it and the politicians will start with their press conferences again.
Yes, while it seems as if there is no end to the number of other people's activities that LE gets involved in trying to stop, even they at some point must have to prioritize, and the lower of a profile that SR can maintain, the less likely it is that they will use as many resources to mess with us as they do when there is a massive public outcry and pressure on them to do something about this or that perceived menace. Just think about the MADD Mothers (mothers against drunk driving). All we need is another bunch of mothers against silk road.. most of whom of course would know nothing to very little about the responsible side to this place.
Keep Silk Road anonymous... no interviews...
Unfortunately, it's too late to keep it anonymous. The information is already out there. The positive side though is that much like the revelations made by Edward Snowden, most (possibly all) of what he said is and has been for years also out there for anyone who cares to look to have found out on their own, but the vast majority of people never bothered to look - they figure that what seems to pass for "news" on the mainstream media IS The News, the Whole News and Nothing But the News. It was only when Snowden brought the information to the mainstream media, that the majority of the public even became aware of any of it. And, while we here are naturally much more tuned in to noticing all the clearnet websites, articles, blogs, etc... that for some of us make it seem as if the SR is widely publicized. So far, I've not personally seen/heard mention of it on any mainstream news outlets. I would guess that there probably has been a few menitons of SR in mainstream media as I don't watch it 24/7... but if there has been, it has probably been brief and with little real detail as it hasn't ellicited much of a public outcry. But I have to agree that if people start volintarily giving interviews, participating in video documentaries, etc.. no matter how well they conceal thier identities and locations, eventually a YouTube Video or similar will come to the attention of some mainstream TV journalist looking for a sensational story, and if they work for CNN, FOX, MSNBC, etc.. and/or their broadcast counterparts... well, that could really be a major problem. Enough said.
Fuck these journalists. Don't let them do LE's job for them.
Exactly! Even if the journalists are responsible and careful in protecting their sources, still... they are first and formost out for the story - the more sensational the better. And I for one certainly would not put my freedom in the hands of any other person - especially when our freedom is usually only of secondary importance to actually "getting the story".
Anything you say to them can be used against you in a court of law.
Very true... although it can't be used against you if they don't know who you are. And that all depends on the level of your security and how well you use it.
Like it or not, SOMEONE on SR will agree to an interview with the media. Might as well be with Vice giving a proper perspective on what really goes on here. After all the fucking nonsense that's come out about SR online it would be good to see a truthful account for once. If anything just because prohibition has to be shown to be the oppressive, bullshit regime that it really is. Someone has to call it out and there's no better place to make that happen than here.
Or OzFreelancer. You could always talk to her ::)
Baraka, I totally agree with all you wrote in the above quote... except for WHO you say would be the best choice for them to do it with. OzFreelancer is a loved and trusted member of this community, and what journalist/organization from the outside could possibly have the same level of personal caring for the protection of our anonymity and freedom than one of our own?
With all the above said, and the fact that it's pretty obvious that I don't think that drawing additional attention to SR is a good idea, I still would like to say this... While I've been aware of the sR and other darknet marketplaces for quite some time, I never had much interest in joining any of these places only because anything that I have personal interest in acquiring, I already had/have local access and/or connections to with long-standing trusted people IRL. It was only fairly recently that a situation arose that I was in need of an item that was not readily available to me locally that I started looking around the darknet for, and eventually chose the SR because I had the best feeling about the safety of doing business here because of how well run it seemed too be (and I now know it is). And when I did join, and I now have the item I originally was looking for and it's perfect.. I found something else here.. something more important than anything that can be sold by any vendor or dealer anywhere. I found a community of people who are true free thinkers, tolerant and accepting of others all throughout the forums, and (to me at least) is most telling of the kind of people I found here is the thread called something like "The Official Spare Coins Thread". There I see (with the exception of a very few who sesem to think they should abuse it) more genuine love, comapassion, caring and trust than I have seen in any community anywhere on the planet - on or offline.
And I can't help but that a part of me would like for all those out there who think that all people who use drugs are such awful menaces to society to see the truth rather than believe the propaganda they hear all the time and believe....