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Market => Rumor mill => Topic started by: JonesinCasey on July 10, 2013, 01:33 pm

Title: THE DEA HAS INFILTRATED THE SILK ROAD
Post by: JonesinCasey on July 10, 2013, 01:33 pm
Post and Courier, in Charleston, SC ran a front page story accusing the wrong person unfortunately, but vendors need to beware, the DEA bought from CaseyJones on 4/12/2013, then seized his bitcoins because they had his wallet ID.

Title: Re: THE DEA HAS INFILTRATED THE SILK ROAD
Post by: BlazedForDays on July 10, 2013, 01:40 pm
While I did hear about this I don't think they arrested him for having his wallet receiving address ::)

Isn't he the one who got samples sent to him on his vendor account? I think there was a general consensus that's how he got caught.
Title: Re: THE DEA HAS INFILTRATED THE SILK ROAD
Post by: JonesinCasey on July 10, 2013, 02:05 pm
I know him and that would be some dumb shit that he would do.
Title: Re: THE DEA HAS INFILTRATED THE SILK ROAD
Post by: Just Chipper on July 10, 2013, 03:21 pm
then seized his bitcoins because they had his wallet ID.

I'd just like to point out the fallacy of this statement. Without the private key you cannot send BTC. Even if they have Casey Jones' PC with the private key on it, they still need to know his passphrase to send them anywhere. If he had his private key properly backed up somewhere he could import the private key into a BTC wallet, enter his passphrase, and send the BTC to a new wallet anytime he wanted. Unless he willingly provided his private key and passphrase it's technically impossible to "seize" BTC.
Title: Re: THE DEA HAS INFILTRATED THE SILK ROAD
Post by: jlranier on July 10, 2013, 03:59 pm
The DEA being on Silk Road is news to you?

Dude when websites like Gawker run stories about your super secret drug vending ring its naive as hell to think the DEA and other agencies aren't on it conducting their pissy investigations.
Title: Re: THE DEA HAS INFILTRATED THE SILK ROAD
Post by: Andrewbud420 on July 10, 2013, 04:16 pm
Gay.

Title: Re: THE DEA HAS INFILTRATED THE SILK ROAD
Post by: astor on July 10, 2013, 05:06 pm
Even if they have Casey Jones' PC with the private key on it, they still need to know his passphrase to send them anywhere.

Wallets are not encrypted by default in the Bitcoin-QT client. They are with Electrum. So it depends on which desktop client he was using.
Title: Re: THE DEA HAS INFILTRATED THE SILK ROAD
Post by: flaxceed on July 10, 2013, 05:12 pm
Even if they have Casey Jones' PC with the private key on it, they still need to know his passphrase to send them anywhere.

Wallets are not encrypted by default in the Bitcoin-QT client. They are with Electrum. So it depends on which desktop client he was using.

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Title: Re: THE DEA HAS INFILTRATED THE SILK ROAD
Post by: punchdrunk on July 10, 2013, 05:16 pm
another stupid FUD thread.
Title: Re: THE DEA HAS INFILTRATED THE SILK ROAD
Post by: ianfleming on July 10, 2013, 05:17 pm
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Isn't he the one who got samples sent to him on his vendor account? I think there was a general consensus that's how he got caught.
Moral of the story. Vendors offering samples may actually be LE fishing for addresses
Title: Re: THE DEA HAS INFILTRATED THE SILK ROAD
Post by: tbart on July 10, 2013, 05:58 pm
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Isn't he the one who got samples sent to him on his vendor account? I think there was a general consensus that's how he got caught.
Moral of the story. Vendors offering samples may actually be LE fishing for addresses

ianfleming   "Vendors offering samples may actually be LE fishing for addresses"

that should be bannered at the top of every page
Title: Re: THE DEA HAS INFILTRATED THE SILK ROAD
Post by: Just Chipper on July 10, 2013, 06:40 pm
Wallets are not encrypted by default in the Bitcoin-QT client. They are with Electrum. So it depends on which desktop client he was using.

+1. I have forgotten this. It's been a while since I've used QT. Nice catch.
Title: Re: THE DEA HAS INFILTRATED THE SILK ROAD
Post by: ProudCannabian on July 10, 2013, 07:02 pm
Tracing bitcoins is a trivial matter...

Don't host the wallet you use for storage on your home machine - unless you encrypt your wallet AND, more importantly, connect to the blockchain through TOR.

Don't mine coins from home, and deposit them directly into SR without using TOR to route the traffic.

If you are a seller, don't be a buyer.

Be wary of new users and sellers.  Shit, be wary of everyone... SR has been here almost three years, and LE has been trying to get in here from almost the beginning.  Watch yourself, and don't be complacent with security - at this point LE believe any bust is a good bust if SR is related.
Title: Re: THE DEA HAS INFILTRATED THE SILK ROAD
Post by: b999 on July 11, 2013, 03:53 am
Can LE identify SR BC addresses?  Why not just deposite straight to SR when buying coins rather than through a wallet, and use SR itself as an anonymiser and (small amount) anonymous online wallet?

Don't we have better things to spend money on than 'infiltrating' SR which must cost a fortune to employ highly specialised very intelligent highly trained and ambitious people to do this?  Wouldn't we be better off with highly specialised very intelligent highly trained and ambitious teachers and doctors?

Maybe it's just me..  but last time I checked I'd rather see more highly specialised very intelligent highly trained and ambitious doctors and teachers than LE's being paid (by us) to try and take down the first attempt in human history to actually reduce drug harm by taking it away from street crime and allow users and sellers to share information about harm reduction and so on?

Meanwhile the average American can barely read or point at a map, but hey, at least their every move is being monitored and, if they dare to have any fun or try to self medicate, get shut down and dragged humiliated out in to the open, destroyed and ruined by LE more than the drug could ever have achieved without LE's generous and kind help.

I'd really like to see an estimate of what it costs the American tax payer to fund the DEA to 'infiltrate' Silk Road in a determined effort to push drug trading back in to the hands of shady criminal exploitative street dealers and hookers.

Well done DEA, some real smart thinking there... you must be real proud of yourselves.  Society is just so much better off having you here with us, at our expense.  Maybe we should go send in some more staggeringly expensive drones in to Pakistan to kill of another 17 innocent people while we're at it... another great use of the money we gave you.

The street dealers and exploited hookers who used to 'sell drugs' will thank you for pushing drug selling back to them.  At least now you have something in common.
Title: Re: THE DEA HAS INFILTRATED THE SILK ROAD
Post by: jonk430 on July 24, 2013, 05:34 pm
Can LE identify SR BC addresses?  Why not just deposite straight to SR when buying coins rather than through a wallet, and use SR itself as an anonymiser and (small amount) anonymous online wallet?

Don't we have better things to spend money on than 'infiltrating' SR which must cost a fortune to employ highly specialised very intelligent highly trained and ambitious people to do this?  Wouldn't we be better off with highly specialised very intelligent highly trained and ambitious teachers and doctors?

Maybe it's just me..  but last time I checked I'd rather see more highly specialised very intelligent highly trained and ambitious doctors and teachers than LE's being paid (by us) to try and take down the first attempt in human history to actually reduce drug harm by taking it away from street crime and allow users and sellers to share information about harm reduction and so on?

Meanwhile the average American can barely read or point at a map, but hey, at least their every move is being monitored and, if they dare to have any fun or try to self medicate, get shut down and dragged humiliated out in to the open, destroyed and ruined by LE more than the drug could ever have achieved without LE's generous and kind help.

I'd really like to see an estimate of what it costs the American tax payer to fund the DEA to 'infiltrate' Silk Road in a determined effort to push drug trading back in to the hands of shady criminal exploitative street dealers and hookers.

Well done DEA, some real smart thinking there... you must be real proud of yourselves.  Society is just so much better off having you here with us, at our expense.  Maybe we should go send in some more staggeringly expensive drones in to Pakistan to kill of another 17 innocent people while we're at it... another great use of the money we gave you.

The street dealers and exploited hookers who used to 'sell drugs' will thank you for pushing drug selling back to them.  At least now you have something in common.

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