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Discussion => Off topic => Topic started by: Jack N Hoff on July 06, 2013, 08:01 am
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What is it with Australians, nBOMEs and balconies? ???
Synthetic LSD and an online "eBay for drugs" known as the Silk Road have been linked to the death of popular Churchlands student Preston Bridge.
Preston's family yesterday released confronting images of the 16-year-old in Sir Charles Gairdner Hospital in the days before he died.
They spoke out after receiving an update on the coronial investigation into his death, which was the result of catastrophic head injuries after Preston fell from a balcony at Scarborough's Sunmoon Resort on February 16.
The toxicology tests found only a small trace of cannabis in Preston's system but no sign of LSD. Preston's father Rod Bridge told The Weekend West that five of the eight teenagers who were at the resort took what they believed to be LSD.
Mr Bridge said the lack of any trace of LSD in his son's system led to speculation Preston may have instead taken a synthetic version of the drug that was not immediately recognisable as a form of LSD.
Synthetic drugs are growing in popularity across the world because they are seen as a way to bypass laws and regarded as a safer alternative to substances made in illegal backyard laboratories.
They are outlawed in WA under laws regarded as among the tightest in Australia.
Mr Bridge said he was angry at the person who supplied the drugs to Preston. No charges have been laid and police inquiries into the supply of the drugs are continuing.
Mr Bridge is also angry at the operators of the Silk Road, which employs high-technology security measures to mask users' true identities and uses a digital currency that eliminates the involvement of banks.
"You get told by people that you can't shut down Silk Road," he said.
"I can't accept that. How can you not shut down the Silk Road drug site but put a man on the Moon? How can you not stop a website - it's ridiculous. Preston is not the first to die and won't be the last."
The Bridge family have different views on the responsibility of the teenager who took the drugs to the resort.
Mr Bridge said his former wife Vicki and daughter Aimee believed Preston was ultimately responsible because he took the drugs.
Preston's case bears striking similarities to the death of Henry Kwan, who died after falling from the balcony of his family's north Sydney home on June 5.
Toxicology is yet to confirm exactly what the 17-year-old took but senior NSW police said his behaviour before his death appeared similar to that shown by others who had ingested 25B-NBOMe and 25I-NBOMe.
The drugs are known by the street names of N-Bomb, Smiles and 25I. Up to 400 Smiles tablets were seized in regional WA in September.
http://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/a/-/wa/17887955/drug-warning-for-teens/
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"I can't accept that. How can you not shut down the Silk Road drug site but put a man on the Moon? How can you not stop a website - it's ridiculous. Preston is not the first to die and won't be the last."
Holy shit is this guy retarded? There is a BIG difference between the shit NASA does and what the government and the NSA does... why am i even trying to compare the two?
Blame the kid for being stupid enough to take the stuff near a balcony.. I'm sorry but even if they managed to somehow shut down SR, its not going to stop people from dealing and buying. Demand for drugs isn't going to stop just like that, what if he couldn't access SR and ended up taking LSD bought from a local dealer and still fell off the balcony? or maybe ended up mixing drugs like Meth, alcohol, Ketamine and whatever other shit? would he begin blaming dealers?
Holy shit his father is so fucking stupid. I'm actually angry right now
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Yes. Please, great and glorious government, will you guide me with your infinite wisdom and protect me from harm?
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The Bridge family have different views on the responsibility of the teenager who took the drugs to the resort.
Mr Bridge said his former wife Vicki and daughter Aimee believed Preston was ultimately responsible because he took the drugs.
Smartest thing a parent has said in the media this year.
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SR is about as culpable in this kid's death as the architects who put the balcony on the building he fell from.
I can understand why Vicki is Mr. Bridge's "former wife". Kid must have taken after his father.
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SR is about as culpable in this kid's death as the architects who put the balcony on the building he fell from.
I can understand why Vicki is Mr. Bridge's "former wife". Kid must have taken after his father.
That's a bit of an exaggeration.
They are as culpable as bartenders who give their patrons drinks.
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They are as culpable as the person who installed their internet router!
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I'm Aussie and have had good fun on nBome with friends. I usually snort it.
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What I'd like to know is just how much these people have been taking. Most drugs are safe when taken at appropriate dosages, I'd assume nBOMEs are the same but these reports haven't given much insight.
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"Preston is not the first to die and won't be the last." - Just because some idiots take too much or are irresponsible, it's called for to ban things? Might want to start banning fast-food and candy to combat the obesity epidemic that are causing deaths then. Dem ar teh real druugz!
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It fucks my mind when i read "Another die for Nbome", wtf man? how many people die on coke/Horse/meths? its a joke or what? they die because they are RETARDED DONKS, not cuz of the drug, enough said, keep buyin nbome's and give us money
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Atleast Vicki and Aimee are intelligent human beings
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It doesn't say how they know the product was even ordered off SR. I mean it's not like getting a package from Amazon or something where it's obvious. Unless the father knew the son had an SR account, which is highly unlikely, maybe they're just assuming it was off SR.
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It doesn't say how they know the product was even ordered off SR. I mean it's not like getting a package from Amazon or something where it's obvious. Unless the father knew the son had an SR account, which is highly unlikely, maybe they're just assuming it was off SR.
That's what I'm thinking.
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and I clicked on this thread thinking drugs actually killed this guy
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Fuck balconies!
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There's another article about a similar case here - apologies if this has been posted before.
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/features/high-alert-why-synthetic-drugs-are-so-hard-to-police/story-e6frg8h6-1226673596866
(edited to remove entire fucking article)
Sorry, Ballzinator. ;)
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Please don't copy and paste entire fucking articles into a forum. Especially if you have to break them up into multiple chunks. There's a character limit for a reason.
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and I clicked on this thread thinking drugs actually killed this guy
Nope. Just another Australian and ANOTHER balcony.
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Clearly SR is not to blame for this kid's death, but let's all take a step-back.
I know it's the net and everything, but an actual person has died... to call a naive child a 'dumbass' or an 'idiot' for doing something that tragically led to his death is pretty low.
It's a sad incident, but it's not reflective upon SR, or the majority of responsible drug users.
But again he's a kid and now he's dead. Let's not blame him for the media's use of this story to further damage SR's reputation.
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The same thing could have happened to that kid if he got drunk.
"It appears that about 25 college students at four-year institutions [in the United States] die each year in alcohol-related incidents."[1]
Should we shut down Anheuser-Busch, Mr. Bridge?
1. http://www2.potsdam.edu/hansondj/YouthIssues/1140106101.html
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The same thing could have happened to that kid if he got drunk.
"It appears that about 25 college students at four-year institutions [in the United States] die each year in alcohol-related incidents."[1]
Should we shut down Anheuser-Busch, Mr. Bridge?
1. http://www2.potsdam.edu/hansondj/YouthIssues/1140106101.html
He had been drinking and smoking pot as well. Of course it is the 25i that killed him, despite no testing to even show that he had taken any. They are just hypothesizing that it was but it could have been lots of things.
Kids do stupid things but some parents just can't accept their child does stupid things.
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The kid might have been naive, but I feel like I would be disrespectful in saying he was a dumbass.
He could have been going through some serious mental issues, mixed with drugs could have been just the tipping point he needed to jump.
Or maybe he got fucked up with his girl, and she fucked someone else.. I've considered jumping from shit like that..
RIP balcony hoppers.
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There's almost no facts given in this article or iterations of it. One says "Legally available synthetic drug that a friend bought from a shop" and now I'm hearing he got it off the web?? And waitaminute - isn't 25x-NBoME banned and in absolutely no way available from shops? ???
To be honest, if I was a pressured, upper-middle class Asian kid, put under the thumb from an early age, learning the fucking Piano, and pressured get good grades so I can learn business at College and look after my parents in their old age, I'd wanna get fucked up too.
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There's almost no facts given in this article or iterations of it. One says "Legally available synthetic drug that a friend bought from a shop" and now I'm hearing he got it off the web?? And waitaminute - isn't 25x-NBoME banned and in absolutely no way available from shops? ???
To be honest, if I was a pressured, upper-middle class Asian kid, put under the thumb from an early age, learning the fucking Piano, and pressured get good grades so I can learn business at College and look after my parents in their old age, I'd wanna get fucked up too.
Unless I'm mistaken then this kid like the last that 'died of nbome' a week or two ago both are yet to be proved to have anything remotely related to nbome in their system. Neither has even done a toxicology and when you look at the wording it's all "assumed" and "effects similar to", e.g. bullshit.
But now the Australian media have their own zombie flesh-eating man too high on bath-salts (who only had marijuana in his system), but nobody cares to write the week later when they find out their reporting was all false and we'll never hear about it.
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Not to sound too "tinfoil" but it seems like that'd be a pretty effective way of trying to pass some more bullshit legislation or devote more funds to a "task force" or some bullshit. Even without a legitimate connection between the case and SR, if the local media runs stories screaming OMG YOU CAN BUY DRUGS ON TEH INTERNET they may be hoping to get enough boozed up failure parents calling their representatives demanding action. If they act before it's demanded it's oppressive, if they're responding to the calls of parents looking to PROTECT THA KIDS then it's laughably easy to get a mass response.
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Ever notice they never blame the liquor store when a drunk person does something stupid?
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Not to sound too "tinfoil" but it seems like that'd be a pretty effective way of trying to pass some more bullshit legislation or devote more funds to a "task force" or some bullshit. Even without a legitimate connection between the case and SR, if the local media runs stories screaming OMG YOU CAN BUY DRUGS ON TEH INTERNET they may be hoping to get enough boozed up failure parents calling their representatives demanding action. If they act before it's demanded it's oppressive, if they're responding to the calls of parents looking to PROTECT THA KIDS then it's laughably easy to get a mass response.
You don't sound "tinfoil" at all. It's not a conspiracy theory but the obvious truth.
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There's almost no facts given in this article or iterations of it. One says "Legally available synthetic drug that a friend bought from a shop" and now I'm hearing he got it off the web?? And waitaminute - isn't 25x-NBoME banned and in absolutely no way available from shops? ???
To be honest, if I was a pressured, upper-middle class Asian kid, put under the thumb from an early age, learning the fucking Piano, and pressured get good grades so I can learn business at College and look after my parents in their old age, I'd wanna get fucked up too.
Unless I'm mistaken then this kid like the last that 'died of nbome' a week or two ago both are yet to be proved to have anything remotely related to nbome in their system. Neither has even done a toxicology and when you look at the wording it's all "assumed" and "effects similar to", e.g. bullshit.
But now the Australian media have their own zombie flesh-eating man too high on bath-salts (who only had marijuana in his system), but nobody cares to write the week later when they find out their reporting was all false and we'll never hear about it.
No point in following up a story - the scare mongering has done it's job! Here, have a nice big cup of IRRATIONAL FEAR, you plebs. Carry on.
It's funny. I have many friends who work in protective services, emergency rooms and social services, and if you ask them what the biggest drug problem is, it's alcohol. Heck, I even hate myself on alcohol! Me on NBoME's, LSD, Molly, fucking you name it though?.......totally awesome ;D
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Until very recently you could buy various synthetic/legal highs from Adult shops in Australia
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YES!!! another death on an NBOMe, fantastic, i really hope people start to get the idea that maybe they aren't a good choice, they should be completely avoided, they aren't even good psychedelics, they are shit tier, the only reason people get it is because its cheap, and because people sell it as LSD, i really find it fucking stupid that people buy it from here, its fucking legal everywhere you can get it from clearnet vendors way cheaper then here.
Instead of this "synthetic LSD" bullshit, they should be telling psychedelic users to swallow their tabs, to avoid that shit, but that's harm reduction, no place for that.
I'm surprised there hasn't been any legislation against them, this is like the 4th kid in this country who has died because of it, also hasn't it caused more deaths then any other psychedelic? but really, with the amounts going around, its going to be a while before this burden of a drug is all gone, just look at BZP, that shit is still going around in e pills.
Thank god for SR, i don't have to worry about getting that filthy shitty poor excuse for a psychedelic when i'm getting LSD.
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YES!!! another death on an NBOMe, fantastic, i really hope people start to get the idea that maybe they aren't a good choice, they should be completely avoided, they aren't even good psychedelics, they are shit tier, the only reason people get it is because its cheap, and because people sell it as LSD, i really find it fucking stupid that people buy it from here, its fucking legal everywhere you can get it from clearnet vendors way cheaper then here.
Instead of this "synthetic LSD" bullshit, they should be telling psychedelic users to swallow their tabs, to avoid that shit, but that's harm reduction, no place for that.
I'm surprised there hasn't been any legislation against them, this is like the 4th kid in this country who has died because of it, also hasn't it caused more deaths then any other psychedelic? but really, with the amounts going around, its going to be a while before this burden of a drug is all gone, just look at BZP, that shit is still going around in e pills.
Thank god for SR, i don't have to worry about getting that filthy shitty poor excuse for a psychedelic when i'm getting LSD.
I feel less intelligent after reading this :-\
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when we talk about this subject ppl get into this pro vs anti nbome thing.
Both sides are right.
the problem with nBOME chemicals is that people react to them very differently. They are potent drugs... but potent poisons too.
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when we talk about this subject ppl get into this pro vs anti nbome thing.
Both sides are right.
the problem with nBOME chemicals is that people react to them very differently. They are potent drugs... but potent poisons too.
Doesn't matter who's right or wrong. What bothers me is the hypocrisy. Saying one drug is "better" than the other is just as retarded as the fucking prohibitionists saying that alcohol and tobacco are totally cool and every illegal drug will turn you into a junkie and eventually a corpse.
I'm really surprised how snobby some drug users get, especially psychedelics users who fancy themselves as being the most open-minded.
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The nbomes series dont have shit to do on this brothers, i mean, look at the freakin amount that is being dealt everyday everywhere, i mean, its MASSIVE as hell, and how many "deaths" uve heard off? i mean, REALLY DIE FROM THE SUBSTANCE, not for being 2 high and fell off a balcony or through acid into his eyes, i mean, cmmon, dont be such an asshole and open your eyes, Tobacco is worst, and is fuckin legal, and that dont even kill themselves as smokers, kill us worst as passives, and so what? that is still around and nobody complains on that. The nbomes are great psychedelics, period, as all drugs, people must be aware of what they take, and even if they get "fooled" and sold as "LSD", cmon, u can jump off a balcony on LSD too, lol.
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when we talk about this subject ppl get into this pro vs anti nbome thing.
Both sides are right.
the problem with nBOME chemicals is that people react to them very differently. They are potent drugs... but potent poisons too.
Doesn't matter who's right or wrong. What bothers me is the hypocrisy. Saying one drug is "better" than the other is just as retarded as the fucking prohibitionists saying that alcohol and tobacco are totally cool and every illegal drug will turn you into a junkie and eventually a corpse.
I'm really surprised how snobby some drug users get, especially psychedelics users who fancy themselves as being the most open-minded.
This This This this, +1
@Donatto exactly! I don't care if someone doesn't like a particular drug, avoid it, tell people you dislike it, sure whatever. Just don't spread fake information to others and make it seem like the worst shit you could ever take. Anything in moderation is OK , you can clog your arteries from eating a diet that's only Mc Donalds, let alone overdose on a substance that is active in micrograms if not taken responsibly and carefully.
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YES!!! another death on an NBOMe, fantastic, i really hope people start to get the idea that maybe they aren't a good choice, they should be completely avoided, they aren't even good psychedelics, they are shit tier, the only reason people get it is because its cheap, and because people sell it as LSD, i really find it fucking stupid that people buy it from here, its fucking legal everywhere you can get it from clearnet vendors way cheaper then here.
Instead of this "synthetic LSD" bullshit, they should be telling psychedelic users to swallow their tabs, to avoid that shit, but that's harm reduction, no place for that.
I'm surprised there hasn't been any legislation against them, this is like the 4th kid in this country who has died because of it, also hasn't it caused more deaths then any other psychedelic? but really, with the amounts going around, its going to be a while before this burden of a drug is all gone, just look at BZP, that shit is still going around in e pills.
Thank god for SR, i don't have to worry about getting that filthy shitty poor excuse for a psychedelic when i'm getting LSD.
Wow, you take LSD and you're cheering the death of another human being? Funny, taking it made me appreciate my fellow man more and more compassionate. Guess to each their own but I don't think you should be cheering the death of a kid even if his actions were ignorant and lead to legislation or whatever. Especially not just because you hate the NBOMes and want and example made of them.
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when we talk about this subject ppl get into this pro vs anti nbome thing.
Both sides are right.
the problem with nBOME chemicals is that people react to them very differently. They are potent drugs... but potent poisons too.
Doesn't matter who's right or wrong. What bothers me is the hypocrisy. Saying one drug is "better" than the other is just as retarded as the fucking prohibitionists saying that alcohol and tobacco are totally cool and every illegal drug will turn you into a junkie and eventually a corpse.
I'm really surprised how snobby some drug users get, especially psychedelics users who fancy themselves as being the most open-minded.
I am fairly experienced with psychedelics, and 25c was shit, most people agree that they aren't nearly as good as even the 2Cx compounds, plus there is the whole danger thing..
Wow, you take LSD and you're cheering the death of another human being? Funny, taking it made me appreciate my fellow man more and more compassionate. Guess to each their own but I don't think you should be cheering the death of a kid even if his actions were ignorant and lead to legislation or whatever. Especially not just because you hate the NBOMes and want and example made of them.
Its one less irresponsible idiot in this world, the weak die young and the strong live on, plus ive never been much of a fan of the human race anyway, too many idiots for my liking, see if people actually researched what they were taking, shit like this wouldn't happen, you go on bluelight, drugsforum or 420chan, and a majority of the questions are just simple shit you could find out yourself.
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Huh.. been some times since I went to 420chan... Was more used to /b/ and the rest of 4chan, Since threads in 420chan last for days, weeks even, given the popularity...
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didn't an aussie die 'planking' on the rail of a balcony a few years ago? maybe it's not drugs that are the common factor...
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didn't an aussie die 'planking' on the rail of a balcony a few years ago? maybe it's not drugs that are the common factor...
I forgot about that!
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This doesn't really have anything to do with the aussie but while we are thing of nbome
I've taken high doses of 25i-nbome before and it's crazy as fuck but feels very bad for you. It gives me terrible vasocontriction on any dose that I get effects. this kid in new orleans apperntly died. idk what other drugs he was taking, the dosage of the drop, or if it going up your nose effects anything though.
http://www.nola.com/crime/index.ssf/2012/11/21-year-old_dies_after_one_dro.html
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Has Australia put a man on the moon?
The US started efforts to do it again but said it would take many years and those plans have been abandoned. lol @ the US gov't.
I can't really blame a person for wanting to kill themselves after taking an NBOMe. NBOMes suck. Legalize LSD so that it is cheap enough to push NBOMe off the marketplace.
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In all honesty an age restriction, if possible would be good idea. I know everyone partied when they were <18, but kids are a huge liability. Although I did first take LSD when I was 13...
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It's really hard to know the true story of any of these deaths, because the media isn't objective or independent.
But again, it all boils down to education. When I first do ANYTHING, I research it. Even as a 'kid', if someone shoved some pill in my face and said "woohoo this is awesome eat this!" I tell them to fuck off unless I know the person is experienced and at least reasonably responsible.
The first time I did acid I had a mentor or sitter who walked a group of us through the whole experience and it was awesome because of it.
Now that I'm back in 'the scene' and there's heaps of new shit I haven't even heard of, I researched the fuck out of them here, or erowid and bluelight before I got some and tried them.
I feel really sorry for middle class kids who are suffering through a life of piano lessons and pressure to become a lawyer ::) but drugs can be pretty fucking serious so you'd better do your homework.
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It's really hard to know the true story of any of these deaths, because the media isn't objective or independent.
But again, it all boils down to education. When I first do ANYTHING, I research it. Even as a 'kid', if someone shoved some pill in my face and said "woohoo this is awesome eat this!" I tell them to fuck off unless I know the person is experienced and at least reasonably responsible.
The first time I did acid I had a mentor or sitter who walked a group of us through the whole experience and it was awesome because of it.
Now that I'm back in 'the scene' and there's heaps of new shit I haven't even heard of, I researched the fuck out of them here, or erowid and bluelight before I got some and tried them.
I feel really sorry for middle class kids who are suffering through a life of piano lessons and pressure to become a lawyer ::) but drugs can be pretty fucking serious so you'd better do your homework.
Very good points, I agree wholeheartedly but I'm torn. At a certain point kids will always be kids and make stupid decisions, but if any one of these kids had have (making the HUGE assumption this was actually nbome or anything remotely related) taken out their smart phones for 10 seconds and googled how people take LSD tabs, that would be it. That would have solved the problem before it became one. They would've swallowed their tabs like most people do when consuming LSD (and if you don't I suggest you do now there's so many bucally active dosed blottered), nothing would've happened and he probably would not be dead.
I think this is Darwinism at its finest - sit back and watch the show.
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when we talk about this subject ppl get into this pro vs anti nbome thing.
Both sides are right.
the problem with nBOME chemicals is that people react to them very differently. They are potent drugs... but potent poisons too.
Doesn't matter who's right or wrong. What bothers me is the hypocrisy. Saying one drug is "better" than the other is just as retarded as the fucking prohibitionists saying that alcohol and tobacco are totally cool and every illegal drug will turn you into a junkie and eventually a corpse.
I'm really surprised how snobby some drug users get, especially psychedelics users who fancy themselves as being the most open-minded.
yeah ok well.. who wants to die trippin balls? because this nbome shit can bring the real death down on you.. not the fake ego shit that sits at the edge of every acid trip.
i will not take that pill.
btw.. I don't take legal drugs anymore. when the original good shit is around i dont care about nothing else. why get wasted on depressants when you could have a good dose of Peace and Love?
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Yeah, I got into heaps of trouble with the missus when I got all Bill Hicksian and recited his "Young man takes acid, thinks he can fly and jumps off roof - what a moron" skit ;D
I still kinda feel like that but my newfound compassion informs me (haha) that some people buy into reality so much that when they stick their ringer in that pond and it ripples, they fully fucking freak out and do some incredibly stupid shit.
Heck, a friend of mine's incredibly square GF took shrooms once and started convulsing, and later recalled freaking out because "the grass was moving by itself" ::)
Some people should just not do drugs ;D ;D