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Discussion => Off topic => Topic started by: JezuzWazaMushroom on May 06, 2013, 04:44 pm
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Please remember what I was saying, if you thought what they did to me was bad, look what they did to this guy! >:(
If my lesson wasn't enough, checkout this poor guy's story... ::)
http://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/1ch7wb/starting_with_almost_nothing_i_made_almost_500000/
Anyone with the power to help out the Bitcoin community by DDOSing these bastards, let's all join forces and put and end to this scam worse that Virwex, MtGix and Tony76 put together! ;)
This guy didn't deserve to be robbed like that, we need to prevent these guys ruining more lives... SR power united! 8)
Love - JWM :-*
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Damn that's a really sad story :(
Though there is no proof of them actually scamming him, but the possibility of things turning out the way they did for him are very very VERY low. It all does seem very sketchy.
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How was he robbed? He gambled all his money away. Or are you saying the odds of getting so many blacks in a row are impossible and the game is rigged?
Personally I think every online betting game is rigged.
I also notice that if you use, say, a dice rolling website the rolls seem to be wrong, not random, when in fact they are perfectly random and it's real life dice that we are used to that have bias.
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Jezuz just hire the people doing the attack on SR right now. They are obviously VERY good at what they do.
SR is dead for me. Wont even load.
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Jezuz just hire the people doing the attack on SR right now. They are obviously VERY good at what they do.
SR is dead for me. Wont even load.
Really? I haven't had any problems since it was confirmed to be back up and there are no current reports of it being down or even lagging. I turned on incognito browsing (no photos) which makes it even faster now. Only reported thing going on is sometimes it will kick you back to the sign-in page probably because of them doing work on the back end. But other than that every thing seems to be working smoothly. Try restarting Tor perhaps?
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Jezuz just hire the people doing the attack on SR right now. They are obviously VERY good at what they do.
SR is dead for me. Wont even load.
That's weird it's working perfectly for me. Only problem is my BTC don't seem to want to arrive to my account. Been like 5 hours since my deposit was confirmed :(
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I failed both the martingale and the random walk.
Who knew that the Martingale strategy is not guaranteed to work?
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So some guy lots hundreds of thousands of dollars gambling and you say he got robbed? I imagine something similar happened to you and that is why you're all butt hurt. You know how gambling works, everyone does. The house has an advantage, otherwise they wouldn't be in business.
Man the fuck up and quit bullshitting. Nobody was robbed. BitZino is legitimately fair and verifiable. Post mathematical proofs of being ripped off. Otherwise you're just a whiny bitch. SHUT THE FUCK UP.
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After seeing what you guys said I tried again and it wouldnt let me in. I rebooted everything including my computer and now im in.
Kind of weird. I could go anywhere but SR before I rebooted.
Does that mean anything to anyone or was it just a fluke?
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Was probably just a fluke. Sometimes the forum does the same thing for me. Open some random thread and it wont load at all. But everything else will. I wouldent worry about it though.
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So some guy lots hundreds of thousands of dollars gambling and you say he got robbed? I imagine something similar happened to you and that is why you're all butt hurt. You know how gambling works, everyone does. The house has an advantage, otherwise they wouldn't be in business.
Man the fuck up and quit bullshitting. Nobody was robbed. BitZino is legitimately fair and verifiable. Post mathematical proofs of being ripped off. Otherwise you're just a whiny bitch. SHUT THE FUCK UP.
You're a fucking idiot mate! I've gambled all over the world, and I know that that many blacks in a row on a shady site that's been called a scam by everyone in the gambling community is enough, the guy got scammed fair and square.
You want mathematical proof, asshole I'm a gambling professional, and they even scammed me so I had to go back to a legit surface net site and win it back.
No you clown, I know my gambling, and I don't use Martingale and you don't win money this quickly using that and this consistently. You will notice that I used a different account every few BTC's so their system wouldn't notice, as soon as I put in the 200BTC's they took it like that (snaps fingers).
The guy was a good gambler who beat them fair and square when they were operating a fair system obviously as you don't win 500K being stupid and he just would have known with that budget he could quite easily use Martingale without a problem because of the odds you see below!, like me obviously took them using their legitimate system as I did, and then they robbed him blind!
Do you actually understand the mathematical probability of 22 blacks in a row? NO, because you're a retard! Do you also know they are not accountable to any gaming body or legal ramifications like someone such as 888 who would be sued for that shit?
You're just another gullible idiot with no fucking idea, if you think actual casinos that have decent games and don't need to go on Bitcointalk to be told what's going on with their site and how to fix it are shady that are also governed by laws, what do you think a shady site like this is going to do when that was the entire 6 month profit they made and they took it from him in "about 60 seconds"? You sound like an uneducated retard who should use less drugs and pick up more books every now and again, you might learn what a naive goon you sound like!
BTW I started on ten and had 200 in no time with new accounts showing consecutively here how I could beat them over and over, and it's using a strategy I developed in high school to which they eventually realised what I was doing and robbed me of my money!
ASSHOLE, 10BTC's to me is NOTHING when I have 10's of 1000's, so eat my shit...
Now, pucker up lose lips so you can kiss my arse you dumb fuck, here I am showing you what pieces of shit they are and you call me a whingeing bitch? You stupid stupid little troll, now you've just been shown to be a fool, because mate, if I was convinced their site wasn't rigged I would go back and do it again. You STUPID STUPID CUNT, go there and lose your BTC's then if you trust them so much and their system off bullshit. You have no idea how shady operators work do you?
Wake the fuck up to yourself you sound like a child, and yes I do mean that he deposits his money and gets 22 blacks in a row, which is only ten off the WORLD RECORD in Chicago in the 1920's, a statistical impossibility.
Here's the results and to LE don't bother tracing the IP because I always use multiple VPN accounts.
Here cocksucker, want my mathematical proof that I beat them USING a mathematical formula and (as if 22 plus blacks in a row isn't proof enough you daft twat)!
He thought he was playing on a fair system, when they did a shady system switch, and if the screen ever starts lagging and flickers and they ever "move you to another table" then you're on the different system.
Here I am trying to do you a favour by warning you and you call me a butt-hurt whingeing bitch when dude, I'm a multimillionaire, and you're a nobody, so... EAT ME!
BTW fucktard, here's your proof, the chances of 22 straight blacks in a row is 4194304 to 1... IDIOT!
The world record for the most spins was in Chicago in the 1920's and it was 32 reds... IN THE 19 FUCKING 20's! Do you have ANY idea how many roulette wheels and games have been played since then?
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The guy was a good gambler who beat them fair and square when they were operating a fair system obviously as you don't win 500K being stupid and he just would have known with that budget he could quite easily use Martingale without a problem because of the odds you see below!, like me obviously took them using their legitimate system as I did, and then they robbed him blind!
The guy made $500,000 by being lucky.
He then lost $500,000 by being stupid. Let's say you have HALF A MILLION DOLLARS, a truly life-changing amount, in a dodgy unregulated online casino... You don't cash any of that out?
Sorry, but that guy is a moron through and through.
As for the 22 spins with no red thing, the odds of any one colour failing to come up a further 21 times after an initial spin are:
-2.098 million to 1 for a wheel with only 0
-714000 to 1 for a wheel with both 0 & 00
Which, whilst unlikely, is well within the bounds of what should be considered mathematically plausible for a casino with hundreds of players playing all the time.
So, in summary:
-Moron loses life-changing amount of money to dodgy casino by playing a stupid roulette game for chumps and not cashing out when he had the chance.
-Martingale strategy will always lead to steady income followed by catastrophic loss.
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OMFG.
I understand probability to some extent. I understand it better than you apparently.
Yes, the likelihood of 22 blacks in a row (we're talking about roulette here?) is very small. But the chance of winning on red is less than 50% every single time.
Once you have seen 10 blacks the chance of the next being red is still less than 50%. Once you've seen 10 blacks in a row the odds of getting another 12 in a row is a lot greater then the original odds of seeing 22 in a row.
If you keep increasing your bet to make up for past losses you are betting more and more money on a less than 50/50 shot. That is what they want. That is the nature of the game. Don't go around saying you were scammed because the variation was outside what you expected and you went bust.
For you to PM me and ask for a public apology because you've posted proof, and then to ramble on about how unlikely it is to see 22 blacks in a row on roulette is simply hilarious.
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Sounds like a dumbass.
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The guy was a good gambler who beat them fair and square when they were operating a fair system obviously as you don't win 500K being stupid and he just would have known with that budget he could quite easily use Martingale without a problem because of the odds you see below!, like me obviously took them using their legitimate system as I did, and then they robbed him blind!
The guy made $500,000 by being lucky.
He then lost $500,000 by being stupid. Let's say you have HALF A MILLION DOLLARS, a truly life-changing amount, in a dodgy unregulated online casino... You don't cash any of that out?
Sorry, but that guy is a moron through and through.
As for the 22 spins with no red thing, the odds of any one colour failing to come up a further 21 times after an initial spin are:
-2.098 million to 1 for a wheel with only 0
-714000 to 1 for a wheel with both 0 & 00
Which, whilst unlikely, is well within the bounds of what should be considered mathematically plausible for a casino with hundreds of players playing all the time.
So, in summary:
-Moron loses life-changing amount of money to dodgy casino by playing a stupid roulette game for chumps and not cashing out when he had the chance.
-Martingale strategy will always lead to steady income followed by catastrophic loss.
We were both wrong and I was on Valium, Oxycontin and weed at the time what's your excuse?
Here's the stats, it is pretty much impossible and I'm not saying he's not a dumbass, he should never have trusted them with that much money but having said that, he also won it there too don t forget and if that were anyone of significance, that Larry Taadi would be dead and has a lot of bad karma coming his way!
I've spoken to MAJOR Casino operators about these guys and this incident, and they would never have a) ripped him off to begin with and B) let him wager that amount either.
He won it there though fair and square and they arse fucked him we all know this! He had a better chance of winning lotto and and NO dude, you DO owe ma an apology and here's your fucking mathematical statistics proof you fucking half-witted goon, and I made 20K of them over the course of one night, let's see you do that you twat Sadcock!
Now as I said, kiss my fucking arsehole you clown, my earnings, coupled with these statistics isn't enough?
FUCK YOU, let's see you make 200BTC off 10BTC in a night and prove it like I can and I'll suck your cock!
I'm just saying to everyone but Sadcock, don't trust your money to this scam operation even if I did beat it's so called "provably fair" system, Martingale is NOT how you do it BTW, anyone wants my secret... pay me for my time to write up how to do it and I'll think about it if I like you, Sadcock I wouldn't give it to you for 1 trillion $!
Number of Spins Ratio Percentage
1 1.06 to 1 48.6%
2 3.23 to 1 23.7%
3 7.69 to 1 11.5%
4 16.9 to 1 5.6%
5 35.7 to 1 2.73%
6 74.4 to 1 1.33%
7 154 to 1 0.65%
8 318 to 1 0.31%
9 654 to 1 0.15%
10 1,346 to 1 0.074%
15 49,423 to 1 0.0020%
20 1,813,778 to 1 0.000055%
22 + well... you get the point!
- JWM 8)
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It is very unlikely, and I'm a good gambler, so that proves I got ripped off, see? By the way... shit, fuck, cunt, cock!
You're a real genius aren't you. I'm so disappointed I can't pay for gambling advice from you ::)
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We were both wrong and I was on Valium, Oxycontin and weed at the time what's your excuse?
Wow, you sound really professional...
Here's the stats, it is pretty much impossible and I'm not saying he's not a dumbass, he should never have trusted them with that much money but having said that, he also won it there too don t forget and if that were anyone of significance, that Larry Taadi would be dead and has a lot of bad karma coming his way!
He won it, and then he lost it all (and more) again.
Obviously though this has never happened to any gambler before ever and makes this a special case ::)
I've spoken to MAJOR Casino operators about these guys and this incident, and they would never have a) ripped him off to begin with and B) let him wager that amount either.
Table limits are up to the house to decide. Ultimately though allowing people to play high stakes isn't illegal or wrong.
He won it there though fair and square and they arse fucked him we all know this! He had a better chance of winning lotto and and NO dude, you DO owe ma an apology and here's your fucking mathematical statistics proof you fucking half-witted goon, and I made 20K of them over the course of one night, let's see you do that you twat Sadcock!
He didn't have a better chance of winning lotto, I already gave you the precise odds (unless your local lottery has odds better than 1/714k). He was a moron and lost, wow, a gambler throwing good money after bad, how fucking shocking.
Good for you if you've had some winning streaks... Doesn't mean you know a damn thing about mathematics but whatever.
Now as I said, kiss my fucking arsehole you clown, my earnings, coupled with these statistics isn't enough?
FUCK YOU, let's see you make 200BTC off 10BTC in a night and prove it like I can and I'll suck your cock!
There isn't any skill in online gambling (with the possible exception of poker) and I'd rather not have that prize anyway ;)
Number of Spins Ratio Percentage
1 1.06 to 1 48.6%
2 3.23 to 1 23.7%
3 7.69 to 1 11.5%
4 16.9 to 1 5.6%
5 35.7 to 1 2.73%
6 74.4 to 1 1.33%
7 154 to 1 0.65%
8 318 to 1 0.31%
9 654 to 1 0.15%
10 1,346 to 1 0.074%
15 49,423 to 1 0.0020%
20 1,813,778 to 1 0.000055%
22 + well... you get the point!
You're using the wrong maths here. You're using a single-zero wheel but calculating the probability of a colour win on each spin, when in fact you should be calculating the probability of a colour loss.
ie, you're looking at (18/37)^n when you should be looking at (20/37)^n.