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Title: Hey have u all herd of the site almost just like SR?
Post by: AnonymousAddict on April 20, 2013, 10:53 am
Correction i had a tor2web site for this at first and i was corrected, sorry didnt know...    [CENSORED: scam link]rky4es5q.onion    <<<< real one

Its called Atlantis..Im looking through it now and it looks pretty damn good, im a little worried about the secuirty cause iv seen nothing bout PGP yet, but i just sign up 20 min ago to it..a few SR vendors r there..

Prices are good on benzos...Anyone ever fuck with that site tht came up called "sheeple'?or something like that....sheep people.onion ...iv seen a few members from here on  it..
Title: Re: Hey have u all herd of the site almost just like SR?
Post by: SpeedCrunch on April 20, 2013, 11:06 am
HERES the link https://atlantisrky4es5q.tor2web.fi/

Its called Atlantis..Im looking through it now and it looks pretty damn good, im a little worried about the secuirty cause iv seen nothing bout PGP yet, but i just sign up 20 min ago to it..a few SR vendors r there..

Prices are good on benzos...Anyone ever fuck with that site tht came up called "sheeple'?or something like that....sheep people.onion ...iv seen a few members from here on  it..

I saw that site a few weeks ago and signed up. Not sure if it has a future or not but might be good down the road. Have not made any transactions on it.
Title: Re: Hey have u all herd of the site almost just like SR?
Post by: aussiepp on April 20, 2013, 11:23 am
I'm far too comfortable on SR to be jumping to a different market place :)
Title: Re: Hey have u all herd of the site almost just like SR?
Post by: oldcactushand on April 20, 2013, 11:52 am
I guess someone would have pointed out if it isn't, but is tor2web.fi safe and everything? A lot of this stuff goes way over my head, just want to double check before signing up (just to have a look).
Title: Re: Hey have u all herd of the site almost just like SR?
Post by: jesse on April 20, 2013, 11:56 am
signing up right now
Title: Re: Hey have u all herd of the site almost just like SR?
Post by: SpeedCrunch on April 20, 2013, 12:30 pm
I guess someone would have pointed out if it isn't, but is tor2web.fi safe and everything? A lot of this stuff goes way over my head, just want to double check before signing up (just to have a look).
Don't register using that tor2web link, in theory they could be logging everything you do including your login credentials.
Just replace the tor2web.fi with onion instead and you'll be fine. :)

I failed to see that good point +1 for you two
Title: Re: Hey have u all herd of the site almost just like SR?
Post by: oldcactushand on April 20, 2013, 12:59 pm
I guess someone would have pointed out if it isn't, but is tor2web.fi safe and everything? A lot of this stuff goes way over my head, just want to double check before signing up (just to have a look).
Don't register using that tor2web link, in theory they could be logging everything you do including your login credentials.
Just replace the tor2web.fi with onion instead and you'll be fine. :)

+1 Thanks. Although it doesn't seem to work when replaced with .onion...?
Title: Re: Hey have u all herd of the site almost just like SR?
Post by: HellInaHandBasket on April 20, 2013, 01:04 pm
I'm with aussiepp....

SR isn't perfect but its the horse I'm backing for the foreseeable future. Frankly I believe there is a better than average chance that Atlantis is a massive sting op by one of the LE agencies out there. Too polished, too complete and too much word for word plagiarism of the terms and conditions etc.. The "manual' verified vendors thast where in place from launch made me think that even if the site isn't LE then there is a flaw in security with these 'legacy' vendors being manually verified.. Just too easy for a switched on LEO to use this as a way in IMO.. Perhaps even the sites name... The paradise that sunk into the ocean nver to be seen again and taking every one of its citizens with it...

I would be interested to know which vendors are on there from here so I know to avoid them here in the future... may seem over the top but I actually think that its a sign of disloyalty and poor judgment to be on both or all three as a vendor... not to mention the fact that the odds of at least one of the three being a sting or a compromised site or hell even just the target when LE has its hand forced by public pressure and an operation is undertaken on one of them.. that's if its not already underway.. Being the way it/they are it will be the weaker/soft target they go after to ensure fast results and sensational media coverage...

SR, IMO, will not be the first target. Sure it would be a high valur target given its exposure in the media however with all the security and the focused effort to educate the masses on how be safe and anonymous it would be difficult to gather enough evidence/prosecutions to justify the expense such an op would require.. Its a numbers game after all and so the derp selling weed and molly from a house in the suburbs or the kids driving round smoking blunts are much more attractive victims.After them it would be the site that doesn't use Encryption and uses a currency so new its only available from a handful of places. Think about that one.... its too late to control BTC but not litecoins. From my understanding money can be used as an aggravating factor by prosecutors to upgrade charges to traffic... but with these new currencies its not like finding a bank roll on some OG when you nab em with some rock in little baggies o the streets so you need the trail...

I could go on...

One thing though OP...

May I ask why for you put a link that's a tor2web??? isn't that like a bad idea and a massive security issue? In fact... that's a odd thing really isn't it.... why would you have that link to post in the first place? is it what you use to access the site or what? like yoiu either cut and past what you use or took the normal onion and made it a web2tor link as a purposful act... either way mate... its not good. Can you change the OP please? Also if your using that link and are not LE and want to stay a free person I'd stop and get the onion to use..

Stay safe people... Its a jungle out there!

EDIT: I could go on and did apparently so tyook a long time writing the post... anyway

correct link for those interested is;

[CENSORED: scam link]rky4es5q.onion

and the thread with the intro from the site ops of Atlantis is;

http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=137273
Title: Re: Hey have u all herd of the site almost just like SR?
Post by: donatto on April 20, 2013, 01:28 pm
Ive checked atlantis a couple months ago, almost nothing on the site, it seems like it grew a lot, still. Ill keep it up on the road, works like a clock.
Title: Re: Hey have u all herd of the site almost just like SR?
Post by: AnonymousAddict on April 20, 2013, 02:26 pm
I AGREE Not leaving SR...I would order from BMR cause they do have some better prices on things,

now as far as changing that part to Onion.com i thought of that right off and DOES NOT WORK.. lol..

But i made sure i didnt use none of the same passwords or anything i do here.. i can tell there is already a few vendors on there from here..


Now the sheeep ppl site fucking sucks, id never use it..
Title: Re: Hey have u all herd of the site almost just like SR?
Post by: boosties on April 20, 2013, 03:07 pm
the name does kinda scare me.... just checked it out, but didnt sign up.
and i changed the last part to onion as hellinahandbasket said and it worked fine.
idk think ill stick to the tride and true... doesnt hurt to save the address for the future tho. :)
Title: Re: Hey have u all herd of the site almost just like SR?
Post by: bho4ever on April 20, 2013, 05:07 pm
The site looks really nice. Interesting that they accept LTC, i wonder how long until SR will be doing this. I love SR and plan on staying here though.
Title: Re: Hey have u all herd of the site almost just like SR?
Post by: anonymart on April 20, 2013, 07:23 pm
That s not an onion website, I would have to see the plain Tor link rather than this Tor2web stuff....
Title: Re: Hey have u all herd of the site almost just like SR?
Post by: donatto on April 20, 2013, 07:27 pm
That s not an onion website, I would have to see the plain Tor link rather than this Tor2web stuff....

atlantisrky4es5q.onion

Take at a look.
Title: Re: Hey have u all herd of the site almost just like SR?
Post by: anonymart on April 20, 2013, 07:37 pm
That s not an onion website, I would have to see the plain Tor link rather than this Tor2web stuff....

atlantisrky4es5q.onion

Take at a look.

Thanks man.
Title: Re: Hey have u all herd of the site almost just like SR?
Post by: boosties on April 20, 2013, 09:40 pm
its definitely an interesting site.... not alot of vendors on there yet. looks like
a carbon copy of sr without a 1/4 of the listings. does anyone know what the
advantage/disadvantage of using litecoins as opposed to bitcoins?
Title: Re: Hey have u all herd of the site almost just like SR?
Post by: b0lixtrader on April 20, 2013, 09:50 pm
Interesting. 

While we are on this topic. Can someone give me the link to BMR?  I lost it after updating tor.

Thanks
Title: Re: Hey have u all herd of the site almost just like SR?
Post by: Marlon Brando on April 20, 2013, 09:57 pm
BMR is a mess.
Title: Re: Hey have u all herd of the site almost just like SR?
Post by: astor on April 20, 2013, 10:02 pm
does anyone know what the advantage/disadvantage of using litecoins as opposed to bitcoins?

Biggest advantage: they are easier to mine.

Biggest disadvantage: they are harder to buy, since fewer exchanges deal with them, but I heard MtGox will allow LTC trade soon.
Title: Re: Hey have u all herd of the site almost just like SR?
Post by: b0lixtrader on April 20, 2013, 10:04 pm
I guess BMR didn't really clean up their layout.  It looked like crap when I logged on like a year ago.
Title: Re: Hey have u all herd of the site almost just like SR?
Post by: SouthSquareBiz on April 20, 2013, 10:22 pm
Sure have.

I probably signed up for it two, maybe three weeks ago.

I did it because:

A) I love SR. This will keep SR vendors "honest".

B) They are using LTC. Looks like a potential investment opportunity

and

C)You can never be getting your drugs from too many places.

I mean I see it like this: cryptocurrency and selling drugs, "safely", online is BRAND SPANKING NEW!

When did you know of something being a great opportunity, and staying that way, but there was only one real player in the game.

That is not happening in a capitalistic market, especially in the underworld.
Title: Re: Hey have u all herd of the site almost just like SR?
Post by: herbaman on April 20, 2013, 10:23 pm
BMR link : http://5onwnspjvuk7cwvk.onion
Title: Re: Hey have u all herd of the site almost just like SR?
Post by: mollyfan on April 20, 2013, 10:39 pm
Looks like a few vendors are there but under different names lol... If u look at the different listings u will see what I mean lol, hope its real but I won't buy nothing there till I see that people are getting their product and NOT getting busted lol
Title: Re: Hey have u all herd of the site almost just like SR?
Post by: photonsounds on April 20, 2013, 10:55 pm
I AGREE Not leaving SR...I would order from BMR cause they do have some better prices on things,

now as far as changing that part to Onion.com i thought of that right off and DOES NOT WORK.. lol..

But i made sure i didnt use none of the same passwords or anything i do here.. i can tell there is already a few vendors on there from here..


Now the sheeep ppl site fucking sucks, id never use it..

remove the https:// You can even leave it as http:// or remove it altogether.
Title: Re: Hey have u all herd of the site almost just like SR?
Post by: radi8power on April 20, 2013, 10:56 pm
I have made a few purchases at BMR. Most have gone well. Three were scam/sketch/LEO/whoknows, but I always stayed in escrow and every time BMR gave me a 100% refund, quickly with no issues. Their admin dude is active on the forums and very responsive to bug complaints and requests and the like, from what I have seen.

You guys who signed up or logged in through .to, had better change ALL your similar username/password combos, everywhere. No joke. There's a nontrivial chance somebody was listening in on you, watching what you do on SR and meaning you harm.

Everybody else, keep in mind the golden rule of never reusing your passwords. True on the Internet in general, even more true on illegal underground drug markets. If you used the same username and password there (or anywhere else) as you do here, you'd better change ALL your similar passwords across all websites.

PSA. Be real, real, careful everybody. No joke.
Title: Re: Hey have u all herd of the site almost just like SR?
Post by: b0lixtrader on April 20, 2013, 11:02 pm
BMR link : http://5onwnspjvuk7cwvk.onion
Thanks +1
Title: Re: Hey have u all herd of the site almost just like SR?
Post by: photonsounds on April 20, 2013, 11:32 pm
After looking through this Atlantis site, it's pretty awesome! It's like they bought some LSD from SR, got creative, and made numerous improvements to SR. I like it! Went ahead and made my account and poked around. If SR started migrating over (which I wouldn't be upset if so) then I'll already be set up.
There are some prices on domestic MDMA over there that look borderline too good to be true. So when it's established a little more, I'll definitely be checking it out.

-PS
Title: Re: Hey have u all herd of the site almost just like SR?
Post by: fartsinthewind on April 21, 2013, 05:32 am
I'm far too comfortable on SR to be jumping to a different market place :)

Haha, just seeing the thread title and seeing it was by anonnymousaddict, I figured this had to be a troll. click away newbs. seeya!
Title: Re: Hey have u all herd of the site almost just like SR?
Post by: BloodThinner on April 21, 2013, 05:36 am
Yeah man, thats the one that was been harrsed by SR has that dudes BBB halmark thread.  That place really sucks SR is were its at.  Yiu thinking of moving or something. If you are bad move jack.  You will not make shit.
Title: Re: Hey have u all herd of the site almost just like SR?
Post by: BloodThinner on April 21, 2013, 05:38 am
What kind of pills did I recieve, I looked at them didnt know waht they are but I feel fuckin like Im floatin and real good, thats why I'm chatting with mofos.
Title: Re: Hey have u all herd of the site almost just like SR?
Post by: Jediknight on April 21, 2013, 12:23 pm
Good point. When sr is down how else can we buy shit?

Thank god for these alternate sites when sr is down ( frequently ). If you notice, those other sites are never down.  They even have mirror addresses too,  they got it going on.

Im quite certain a Silk Road staff or old time vendor is the consultant behind those sites.
Title: Re: Hey have u all herd of the site almost just like SR?
Post by: sildenafil on April 21, 2013, 12:31 pm
well, there is not much information about the site - therefore i would be very carefully by adding any information especially your address! you never know if this is another try by LEO to get new buyers and vendor addresses ;)
Title: Re: Hey have u all herd of the site almost just like SR?
Post by: seeyallnextyear on April 21, 2013, 01:14 pm
Let me start off by saying I love silk road, always have always will.  I started out with with BMR just because it was just a silky sweet ways to get shit you can get anywhere else. TBS

Mt.GOX will not being adding LTC. Never had planned to and probably never will.  A company that large would only announce some thing like that directly on their news site.  Any person saying that they are and that they have proof, are bots working to stimulate the market in order order LTC sales up. Yes there are bots in theses forums as well many more of them than LE. 

Also, the people who are still talking about LTC going to Mt.Gox, shut up. Please,  you are doing nothing but exactly what the Market Manipulators want you to do. Keep invesing LTC. And over a period of a month, the price of a LTC went straight up from less 0.9 to 5.0.  This is what popped the BTC bubble, when people are cashing in their BTC for another Crypto-Currency such as LTC, the spread is going to go wild. Especially since the extrinsic value of BTC was closer to 100-USD when Mt. Gox read up to 260-USD.

How could a different currency affect another so drastically you ask? They are the exact same. They mirror one another In other words.  BTC = LTC

To anyone who thinks I am wrong, send me a link with an actual press release from MT.Gox stating they are taking this new currency. A redditt article will not be accepted neither will a wiki. For the obvious reasons of course.

I, a professor economics and corporate law at (where-ever) University , have used my LTC that I mined and are still mining at Atlantis.  It works folks.  Works well.  BMR is a bit more secure than here.  And baa baa black sh**p doesn't have much of a stock, but they are coming around. 

Wanna call me out? I love to debate. I get  paid for it.  So..... take it with a grain of sand. 

SYNY

Title: Re: Hey have u all herd of the site almost just like SR?
Post by: joolz on April 21, 2013, 01:49 pm
 good news  indeed
Title: Re: Hey have u all herd of the site almost just like SR?
Post by: oldcactushand on April 21, 2013, 03:30 pm
Looks like a pretty nice site and forum with good potential. Hopefully it will build a decent community that can compete with SR. I love SR, and am not at all bitter about the fact that feature requests tend to go answered for long periods of time. I think the competition will be good if anything (and I don't have nearly as much reverence for competitive forces as DPR and most of the user base here), more vendors and more customers is a good thing. The more people sending drugs in the mail the more absurd the proposal of trying to stop it becomes.
Title: Re: Hey have u all herd of the site almost just like SR?
Post by: nanpa2001 on April 21, 2013, 04:21 pm
well, there is not much information about the site - therefore i would be very carefully by adding any information especially your address! you never know if this is another try by LEO to get new buyers and vendor addresses ;)

PGP is more tightly integrated into Atlantis than it is here.
Title: Re: Hey have u all herd of the site almost just like SR?
Post by: Barbijuana on April 22, 2013, 01:24 am
Atlantis takes LTC - If you got an AMD card; you can probably get .5-1.5 LTC a day.

Get on it people, if MtGox takes LTC then the LTC that you just mined for the cost of power is going to go from 2.5$ per to 15+ very quickly.

Drugs.... Think of the drugs would you!!!

Edit: But do not drop your proverbial shield. IF you have doubts or concerns that this is a LE Honeypot, I would not discount that feeling as just paranoia.

Here is the origin of the "creator"
http://forum.litecoin.net/index.php/topic,1370.0.html (http://forum.litecoin.net/index.php/topic,1370.0.html)

First thing that noticed to me was it was an 8 post, no capitalized (but very concise post) - Judge a OP by his cover can sometimes save you. But what I got out of it, was maybe he was a miner/early investor and noticed that the business model of SR has really made BTC valuable and not to mention DPR probably well off.
Title: Re: Hey have u all herd of the site almost just like SR?
Post by: nuggets5 on April 22, 2013, 02:41 am
I really want to test this site out, but I am skeptical. It looks like it popped up over night and the owner of the site is trying to implement all these new crazy changes that I think safety is compromised. I mean he is blogging about it over bitcoin and litecoin sites, that is a red flag to me..

For all we know, it could be LE, and in 3 months time they have a list of 5000 address's and name and do the biggest drug bust in the World's history for guys that are buying big weight. What do I know?
Title: Re: Hey have u all herd of the site almost just like SR?
Post by: Ninja92 on April 22, 2013, 08:28 am
I really want to test this site out, but I am skeptical. It looks like it popped up over night and the owner of the site is trying to implement all these new crazy changes that I think safety is compromised. I mean he is blogging about it over bitcoin and litecoin sites, that is a red flag to me..

For all we know, it could be LE, and in 3 months time they have a list of 5000 address's and name and do the biggest drug bust in the World's history for guys that are buying big weight. What do I know?

Better safe than sorry, let the sheep find out if they are going to the market for slaughter..
Title: Re: Hey have u all herd of the site almost just like SR?
Post by: AnonymousAddict on April 22, 2013, 10:11 am
I'm with aussiepp....

SR isn't perfect but its the horse I'm backing for the foreseeable future. Frankly I believe there is a better than average chance that Atlantis is a massive sting op by one of the LE agencies out there. Too polished, too complete and too much word for word plagiarism of the terms and conditions etc.. The "manual' verified vendors thast where in place from launch made me think that even if the site isn't LE then there is a flaw in security with these 'legacy' vendors being manually verified.. Just too easy for a switched on LEO to use this as a way in IMO.. Perhaps even the sites name... The paradise that sunk into the ocean nver to be seen again and taking every one of its citizens with it...

I would be interested to know which vendors are on there from here so I know to avoid them here in the future... may seem over the top but I actually think that its a sign of disloyalty and poor judgment to be on both or all three as a vendor... not to mention the fact that the odds of at least one of the three being a sting or a compromised site or hell even just the target when LE has its hand forced by public pressure and an operation is undertaken on one of them.. that's if its not already underway.. Being the way it/they are it will be the weaker/soft target they go after to ensure fast results and sensational media coverage...

SR, IMO, will not be the first target. Sure it would be a high valur target given its exposure in the media however with all the security and the focused effort to educate the masses on how be safe and anonymous it would be difficult to gather enough evidence/prosecutions to justify the expense such an op would require.. Its a numbers game after all and so the derp selling weed and molly from a house in the suburbs or the kids driving round smoking blunts are much more attractive victims.After them it would be the site that doesn't use Encryption and uses a currency so new its only available from a handful of places. Think about that one.... its too late to control BTC but not litecoins. From my understanding money can be used as an aggravating factor by prosecutors to upgrade charges to traffic... but with these new currencies its not like finding a bank roll on some OG when you nab em with some rock in little baggies o the streets so you need the trail...

I could go on...

One thing though OP...

May I ask why for you put a link that's a tor2web??? isn't that like a bad idea and a massive security issue? In fact... that's a odd thing really isn't it.... why would you have that link to post in the first place? is it what you use to access the site or what? like yoiu either cut and past what you use or took the normal onion and made it a web2tor link as a purposful act... either way mate... its not good. Can you change the OP please? Also if your using that link and are not LE and want to stay a free person I'd stop and get the onion to use..

Stay safe people... Its a jungle out there!

EDIT: I could go on and did apparently so tyook a long time writing the post... anyway

correct link for those interested is;

[CENSORED: scam link]rky4es5q.onion

and the thread with the intro from the site ops of Atlantis is;

http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=137273

First off iv been here right at a year bro, and the last thing i am is LE... So get that st8t right off..

2nd I was told by a friend about the site and as long as u used TOR it was fine so thats why i asked others.

PPL have their own minds and can do as their choose with out the next telling what to do...

Your advice is good but no need to come at me the way u did.. Iv been on SR and got over 50 transactions and thousands spent..All the old school memebers know who i am, all you new ppl seem to know it all..
Title: Re: Hey have u all herd of the site almost just like SR?
Post by: AnonymousAddict on April 22, 2013, 10:21 am
I'm far too comfortable on SR to be jumping to a different market place :)

Haha, just seeing the thread title and seeing it was by anonnymousaddict, I figured this had to be a troll. click away newbs. seeya!

Dude who the fuck are u? Iv been here a loong damn time and never trolled anyone as u suggest. Fuckoff
Title: Re: Hey have u all herd of the site almost just like SR?
Post by: HellInaHandBasket on April 22, 2013, 11:51 am

First off iv been here right at a year bro, and the last thing i am is LE... So get that st8t right off..

2nd I was told by a friend about the site and as long as u used TOR it was fine so thats why i asked others.

PPL have their own minds and can do as their choose with out the next telling what to do...

Your advice is good but no need to come at me the way u did.. Iv been on SR and got over 50 transactions and thousands spent..All the old school memebers know who i am, all you new ppl seem to know it all..

When we ask a person a question we are giving them a chance to lie and fool us. To not seek the answer to a question, however quietly whispered in your mind, will simply plant a seed of paranoid doubt. So by sparking a fire in someone we are shown the truth of their character and all questioned are answered......

So as a 'know it all' new person (who has only been here for well over a year and had well over 30 successful transactions FYI) I want to respond to your reply with a few observations.... First if I upset you I am sorry but that was not my intention. As for believing that any length of time spent anywhere having anything to do with an individual being LE or not, well I'm sorry but that is just naive my friend....

Yes if you use tor and connect to a proper hidden service you are safe... that link you had in the OP will negate your protection if used and , IMO, someone who has been around for as long as you have should  know this and also be setting a better example for 'new people' such as myself....

Yes people have their own minds and once they have enough information they can usually make a decision.  It is important that the information is unbiased and as accurate as possible or the decisions they make will be wrong and potentially harmful...

You posed a question and I responded to it with my thoughts on the situation but allow me to expand a little on some things....

I am very suspicious of both the Atlantis site and LTC on several levels but the one that stands out amongst the many others is that it has all the signs of a setup by either LE or major syndicated crime gangs. Both the site and coin are following the script written by BTC and SR with the result being a desirable thing to be running for either of those mentioned institutions. The damage done to both BTC and SR is potentially devastating and destabilizing even if its just a money grab by botnet owners who are loosing their cash cows as mining moves into asic territory.... these are just thoughts mind you...

Paranoid?  Maybe but paranoid is what they call people who don't have large and well funded agencies out to get them.. we do have them out to get us so can it really be paranoid? So given there is nothing broken here, not terminally anyway, and BTC is maturing well why take unnecessary risks? Gambling is ok but only gamble with what you are OK with loosing so.. for me anyway... its not worth it...

So I noticed another LTC thread just started... interesting... seems to be more questions and speculation that actual fact on them but a Google shows, on balance, its a high gain and high risk entity and IMO is not where the smart money is being invested. Buyer beware...

I will say this too though.. I find it in bad taste to advertise a competing site in the forums of a site.. I am a bit of an old fogey I have been told but in my day this was not done...

Anyway. Peace.

Title: Re: Hey have u all herd of the site almost just like SR?
Post by: pkizenko98 on April 22, 2013, 08:00 pm
Let me start off by saying I love silk road, always have always will.  I started out with with BMR just because it was just a silky sweet ways to get shit you can get anywhere else. TBS

Mt.GOX will not being adding LTC. Never had planned to and probably never will.  A company that large would only announce some thing like that directly on their news site.  Any person saying that they are and that they have proof, are bots working to stimulate the market in order order LTC sales up. Yes there are bots in theses forums as well many more of them than LE. 

Also, the people who are still talking about LTC going to Mt.Gox, shut up. Please,  you are doing nothing but exactly what the Market Manipulators want you to do. Keep invesing LTC. And over a period of a month, the price of a LTC went straight up from less 0.9 to 5.0.  This is what popped the BTC bubble, when people are cashing in their BTC for another Crypto-Currency such as LTC, the spread is going to go wild. Especially since the extrinsic value of BTC was closer to 100-USD when Mt. Gox read up to 260-USD.

How could a different currency affect another so drastically you ask? They are the exact same. They mirror one another In other words.  BTC = LTC

To anyone who thinks I am wrong, send me a link with an actual press release from MT.Gox stating they are taking this new currency. A redditt article will not be accepted neither will a wiki. For the obvious reasons of course.

I, a professor economics and corporate law at (where-ever) University , have used my LTC that I mined and are still mining at Atlantis.  It works folks.  Works well.  BMR is a bit more secure than here.  And baa baa black sh**p doesn't have much of a stock, but they are coming around. 

Wanna call me out? I love to debate. I get  paid for it.  So..... take it with a grain of sand. 

SYNY

Professor, can you help me with some accounting topics.  I'm sorry if this sounds sarcastic. I'm actually in need of some assistance!
Title: Re: Hey have u all herd of the site almost just like SR?
Post by: czxtvr on April 22, 2013, 11:06 pm
Good info. I checked it out and the prices seem to be a hell of alot more reasonable than SR. But don't know if i will try them or not. Although, it doesn;t hurt to have a back up ....Thanks Guys for sharing.
Title: Re: Hey have u all herd of the site almost just like SR?
Post by: joolz on April 22, 2013, 11:31 pm
competition is always good  ;)
Title: Re: Hey have u all herd of the site almost just like SR?
Post by: Mcrad on April 23, 2013, 12:07 am
I'm far too comfortable on SR to be jumping to a different market place :)

Im right there with ya buddy! just keep getting these damn "502 bad gateway" messages when im trying to log on....

i've also heard of a site somewhat like the road called Black Market Reloaded. maybe give that one a shot
Title: Re: Hey have u all herd of the site almost just like SR?
Post by: AnonymousAddict on April 23, 2013, 01:59 am

First off iv been here right at a year bro, and the last thing i am is LE... So get that st8t right off..

2nd I was told by a friend about the site and as long as u used TOR it was fine so thats why i asked others.

PPL have their own minds and can do as their choose with out the next telling what to do...

Your advice is good but no need to come at me the way u did.. Iv been on SR and got over 50 transactions and thousands spent..All the old school memebers know who i am, all you new ppl seem to know it all..

When we ask a person a question we are giving them a chance to lie and fool us. To not seek the answer to a question, however quietly whispered in your mind, will simply plant a seed of paranoid doubt. So by sparking a fire in someone we are shown the truth of their character and all questioned are answered......

So as a 'know it all' new person (who has only been here for well over a year and had well over 30 successful transactions FYI) I want to respond to your reply with a few observations.... First if I upset you I am sorry but that was not my intention. As for believing that any length of time spent anywhere having anything to do with an individual being LE or not, well I'm sorry but that is just naive my friend....

Yes if you use tor and connect to a proper hidden service you are safe... that link you had in the OP will negate your protection if used and , IMO, someone who has been around for as long as you have should  know this and also be setting a better example for 'new people' such as myself....

Yes people have their own minds and once they have enough information they can usually make a decision.  It is important that the information is unbiased and as accurate as possible or the decisions they make will be wrong and potentially harmful...

You posed a question and I responded to it with my thoughts on the situation but allow me to expand a little on some things....

I am very suspicious of both the Atlantis site and LTC on several levels but the one that stands out amongst the many others is that it has all the signs of a setup by either LE or major syndicated crime gangs. Both the site and coin are following the script written by BTC and SR with the result being a desirable thing to be running for either of those mentioned institutions. The damage done to both BTC and SR is potentially devastating and destabilizing even if its just a money grab by botnet owners who are loosing their cash cows as mining moves into asic territory.... these are just thoughts mind you...

Paranoid?  Maybe but paranoid is what they call people who don't have large and well funded agencies out to get them.. we do have them out to get us so can it really be paranoid? So given there is nothing broken here, not terminally anyway, and BTC is maturing well why take unnecessary risks? Gambling is ok but only gamble with what you are OK with loosing so.. for me anyway... its not worth it...

So I noticed another LTC thread just started... interesting... seems to be more questions and speculation that actual fact on them but a Google shows, on balance, its a high gain and high risk entity and IMO is not where the smart money is being invested. Buyer beware...

I will say this too though.. I find it in bad taste to advertise a competing site in the forums of a site.. I am a bit of an old fogey I have been told but in my day this was not done...

Anyway. Peace.

Alright i guess i took it a little to much the wrong way today, just was irritated at things this morning and most old members knw me and know iv always help others in anyway i could  and would never do nothing to mess up our Paradise .. As for advertising it, That was not my intention at all, Nor was posting something with web2tor or whatever if it was anyharm, it was just passed on to me that way and that is why i came to the community to ask, BMR is brought here off and on, the main reason i asked the community about it is because it looks just like the SR..

Anyways Sorry i came off like a smart ass, Im man enough to say i apologize if i went about something the wrong way, the main thing was just the accusation of being LE. Anyway on to new things no hard feeling man.. Nice Psychology you spoke of in your first few sentences btw..Very clever.  :P
Title: Re: Hey have u all herd of the site almost just like SR?
Post by: astor on April 23, 2013, 02:16 am
atlantis announced its opening on bitcointalk.com about a month or so ago. thats how i heard of it anyway....

I thought you were joking, so I checked. It's true: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=154138.0

Not sure what to think of that.
Title: Re: Hey have u all herd of the site almost just like SR?
Post by: joolz on April 23, 2013, 11:02 pm
looks cheaper
Title: Re: Hey have u all herd of the site almost just like SR?
Post by: Mcrad on April 23, 2013, 11:50 pm
looks cheaper

Atlantis or BMR?
Title: Re: Hey have u all herd of the site almost just like SR?
Post by: danconia on April 24, 2013, 12:06 am
Is it just me or is there no reputation / rating system for the vendors?

Edit: Apparently there is a feedback system but it's not immediately apparent.  They have some improvements they'll have to do if they want to take market share away from Silk Road.  Competition is good and will help push both websites to improve their services.
Title: Re: Hey have u all herd of the site almost just like SR?
Post by: Dipset420 on April 24, 2013, 12:14 am
@hellinhambasket.   

  I agree I would not take the chance but to say vendors there from here are disloyal lol.  This is a free market not communism.  I am a buyer and am all for competition if its secure for lowering the insane prices asked on the road.  But security is what scares me.  If it aint safe I'm not fucking with it.
Title: Re: Hey have u all herd of the site almost just like SR?
Post by: Mcrad on April 24, 2013, 12:25 am
@hellinhambasket.   

  I agree I would not take the chance but to say vendors there from here are disloyal lol.  This is a free market not communism.  I am a buyer and am all for competition if its secure for lowering the insane prices asked on the road.  But security is what scares me.  If it aint safe I'm not fucking with it.

BOOOOM! id +1 If i could because you just read my mind
Title: Re: Hey have u all herd of the site almost just like SR?
Post by: blowdrobro on April 24, 2013, 03:02 am
Checking it out because I believe in free market, but SR has done a fine job and newcomers have their work cut out for them.
Title: Re: Hey have u all herd of the site almost just like SR?
Post by: Razorspyne on April 24, 2013, 03:29 am
Jesus H. Christ.... homepage could do with a bit of an upgrade. ::)

That is all.

Piece, Love, and Fuck Haters.
Title: Re: Hey have u all herd of the site almost just like SR?
Post by: Mcrad on April 24, 2013, 03:37 am
I love the road, but competition is a must to drive prices down:)
Title: Re: Hey have u all herd of the site almost just like SR?
Post by: AnonymousAddict on April 24, 2013, 07:59 am
Black market reloaded has been their main competitor since the site has been up, its no where near as nice looks as the road and atlantis but its got cheaper prices and just as much to choose from if not more under certain catagorys
Title: Re: Hey have u all herd of the site almost just like SR?
Post by: westb0xes on April 24, 2013, 08:01 am
i dont care i just need a better BLACKMARKET reloaded ^^  half a year ago there where so many weapons online and so on ^^  and electronics n stuff
but now.....
Title: Re: Hey have u all herd of the site almost just like SR?
Post by: JezuzWazaMushroom on April 24, 2013, 08:38 am
That Atlantis site looks fucking sick!

DPR's got some stiff competition coming up me thinks...

BMR is shite, but that is a good looking site ;)


- JWM
Title: Re: Hey have u all herd of the site almost just like SR?
Post by: westb0xes on April 24, 2013, 08:42 am
That Atlantis site looks fucking sick!

DPR's got some stiff competition coming up me thinks...

BMR is shite, but that is a good looking site ;)


- JWM

we will see ... competition is always good xD
Title: Re: Hey have u all herd of the site almost just like SR?
Post by: OzFreelancer on April 24, 2013, 09:04 am
I guess it's okay to pimp my site here, because the piece I did yesterday is totally on topic.  It's on the Road's competition, including quotes from DPR and owners of Atlantis.

http://allthingsvice.com/2013/04/23/competition-for-black-market-share-hotting-up/

I know somebody will probably cut'n'paste the whole thing here at some point, but meantime, I really appreciate the hits on my site :)
Title: Re: Hey have u all herd of the site almost just like SR?
Post by: Mcrad on April 24, 2013, 09:42 am
the road needed competition like this, their prices on L were ridiculous
Title: Re: Hey have u all herd of the site almost just like SR?
Post by: westb0xes on April 24, 2013, 10:21 am
the road needed competition like this, their prices on L were ridiculous
L  ?
Title: Re: Hey have u all herd of the site almost just like SR?
Post by: Mcrad on April 24, 2013, 10:29 am
the road needed competition like this, their prices on L were ridiculous
L  ?

LSD sorry, i always just use L as an abbreviation:P

Much Love_ McRad
Title: Re: Hey have u all herd of the site almost just like SR?
Post by: westb0xes on April 24, 2013, 12:28 pm
the road needed competition like this, their prices on L were ridiculous
L  ?

LSD sorry, i always just use L as an abbreviation:P

Much Love_ McRad

yeah i feel u 5000 dollar for 10 bottles lol 
have a nice day  ;D
Title: Re: Hey have u all herd of the site almost just like SR?
Post by: 77Tjm on April 24, 2013, 12:48 pm
Looks like one or more LTC early adopters wants to pump the LTC exchange price up with drug sales. Great idea! That will help separate LTC from the pack of other crypto currencies, and hopefully I can get a miner running today and get some LTC before the price starts to take off :)

Also, for everyone commenting on prices, keep this in mind:

The vendor account price is low, low enough that scammers could buy a dozen or more vendor accounts for less than the price of 1 SR account.

Any scammer can copy & paste a leading SR vendors pictures and descriptions over to Atlantis (heck, even username in some cases).

Legit vendors will likely sell for the same price (or nearly the same price) on both sites.

Scam vendors will offer heavy discounts on items to get people to shut off their brains and FE

If someone claims to be a legit SR vendor on Atlantis, message the vendor on SR (not Atlantis) to verify identity.

I don't know what the escrow is like at Atlantis, but ~~~NEVER FINALIZE UNTIL DRUGS ARE IN YOUR HANDS~~~
Title: Re: Hey have u all herd of the site almost just like SR?
Post by: Mcrad on April 25, 2013, 03:29 am
the road needed competition like this, their prices on L were ridiculous
L  ?

LSD sorry, i always just use L as an abbreviation:P

Much Love_ McRad

yeah i feel u 5000 dollar for 10 bottles lol 
have a nice day  ;D

yeah thats like double what they should be. hell even more than double!
Title: Re: Hey have u all herd of the site almost just like SR?
Post by: obtusfolium on April 25, 2013, 06:31 pm
@OP

Sheep market: http://sheep5u64fi457aw.onion

Not much there at all..

Competition is good but I have to admit I am wary about all these sites with integrated PGP. I'd rather do it myself so my information never leaves my computer unencrypted.
Title: Re: Hey have u all herd of the site almost just like SR?
Post by: Razorspyne on April 28, 2013, 12:02 am
I will say this too though.. I find it in bad taste to advertise a competing site in the forums of a site.. I am a bit of an old fogey I have been told but in my day this was not done...

Was actually against the rules to advertise competing websites on the forum and I'm assuming it still is unless there is a point of debate.

I've already added my 2 bitcents (damn I lost my custom symbols) so I will leave it at that.

Piece, Love, and Fuck Haters.
Title: Re: Hey have u all herd of the site almost just like SR?
Post by: Jack N Hoff on April 28, 2013, 10:57 am
I'm on the Atlantis forum and the mods are deleting all my posts.   LOL  The spammers don't like me posting on their forum!
Oh fuck that.  I hate censorship.  Free market free speech!  What were you saying?
Title: Re: Hey have u all herd of the site almost just like SR?
Post by: Mcrad on April 28, 2013, 10:10 pm
I'm on the Atlantis forum and the mods are deleting all my posts.   LOL  The spammers don't like me posting on their forum!
Oh fuck that.  I hate censorship.  Free market free speech!  What were you saying?

damn, weird to think that an online black market would try and sensor what you say. thats pretty ridiculous if you ask me...
Title: Re: Hey have u all herd of the site almost just like SR?
Post by: howdoesitwork on April 28, 2013, 10:28 pm
One of the vendors on Atlantis has a 150mg sample of MDMA for like 7 bucks shipped. I'm really tempted but I'm not sure it's worth the risk considering the guy has no sales. Plus I've heard alot about people getting busted for MDMA recently.
Title: Re: Hey have u all herd of the site almost just like SR?
Post by: druff1138 on April 29, 2013, 12:04 am
I have gotten some samples from there, pills for less than 1$ and gram weed samples for 0.01$!!! The pills came from the UK, the weed from DOmestic USA, and one weed order has yet to arrive. I am taking advantage of the cheap prices, and testing the waters. So far so good, but stay away from going postal, it is MIMM under a different name scamming.
Title: Re: Hey have u all herd of the site almost just like SR?
Post by: iamonion on April 29, 2013, 12:53 am
WARNING!

RED FLAGS FLASHING!!!!

WARNING!!!

SEE THE CREATORS OF THIS SITE IN A VICE INTERVIEW.

SEE ONE OF THEM LISTED AS "VLADIMIR."

VLADIMIR IS A KNOWN SCAMMER.  HE RAN A PONZI SCHEME HERE FOR BTC INVESTMENT AND RAN WITH THE COIN.  HE STOLE THOUSANDS

THE MONIKER VLADIMIR IS ALREADY CONNECTED TO A KNOWN HUMAN BEING!!!!!  THAT IS RIGHT!!!!!  THE IDENTITY OF VLADIMIR IS ALREADY KNOWN!!!!!  DUE TO THE FACT THAT THIS NAME IS TIED TO A HUMAN BEING IN CONNECTION WITH A HUGE BTC SCAM I WOULD ADVISE YOU TO BE WEARY AS THIS PERSON MAY BE WORKING WITH LEO!!!!!!  HOW EASY WOULD IT BE FOR LEO TO GET WITH THIS GUY AFTER HE WAS FOUND OUT BY SR USERS!?

HE IS KNOWN FOR HAVING TIES TO LIMITLESS.

VLADIMIR IS SUSPECTED AS HAVING TIES TO ANOTHER GREAT BTC SCAMMER.  I CANNOT RECALL HIS NAME RIGHT NOW, IF SOMEONE KNOWS HOW IT IS PLEASE POST IT.

NON-PGP CLEAR TEXT ADDRESS SUBMISSION TO VENDORS IS NOT SAFE!!!!!!!!!!  YOU WILL NOT BE SAFE USING THEIR INTEGRATED ENCRYPTION METHODS!!!!!!!!!

ANOTHER USERS HAS ALREADY POINTED OUT FORUM MODS DELETING HIS POSTS.  DPR AND HIS ADMINS DO NOT DELETE CRITICAL POSTS.  DO NOT TRUST A BUSINESS RUN BY THOSE THAT ARE NOT WILLING TO ACCEPT CRITICISM.

Look guys, I understand that SR has been down a lot and it is causing some of you great hardships... although I'm not sure how great these hardships are considering it may be in your best interest to stop banging H on the regular.  I also understand that a lot of you have been using SR for a long time and you are growing comfortable with the idea of purchasing your pleasures through this site; DO NOT BECOME COMPLACENT IN YOUR ATTEMPTS TO PURCHASE.

Do your research guys.  Take every precaution necessary to prevent yourself from winding up in prison.

I urge every one of you to take the time to use the search feature of the forums.  Take the time to look into Vlad, Limitless, and any others generally associated with that circle of trust.

DO NOT FALL PRAY TO SCAMMING/LEO TRAPPING!!!!
Title: Re: Hey have u all herd of the site almost just like SR?
Post by: Razorspyne on April 29, 2013, 05:09 am
WARNING!

RED FLAGS FLASHING!!!!

WARNING!!!

SEE THE CREATORS OF THIS SITE IN A VICE INTERVIEW.

SEE ONE OF THEM LISTED AS "VLADIMIR."

VLADIMIR IS A KNOWN SCAMMER.  HE RAN A PONZI SCHEME HERE FOR BTC INVESTMENT AND RAN WITH THE COIN.  HE STOLE THOUSANDS

THE MONIKER VLADIMIR IS ALREADY CONNECTED TO A KNOWN HUMAN BEING!!!!!  THAT IS RIGHT!!!!!  THE IDENTITY OF VLADIMIR IS ALREADY KNOWN!!!!!  DUE TO THE FACT THAT THIS NAME IS TIED TO A HUMAN BEING IN CONNECTION WITH A HUGE BTC SCAM I WOULD ADVISE YOU TO BE WEARY AS THIS PERSON MAY BE WORKING WITH LEO!!!!!!  HOW EASY WOULD IT BE FOR LEO TO GET WITH THIS GUY AFTER HE WAS FOUND OUT BY SR USERS!?

HE IS KNOWN FOR HAVING TIES TO LIMITLESS.

VLADIMIR IS SUSPECTED AS HAVING TIES TO ANOTHER GREAT BTC SCAMMER.  I CANNOT RECALL HIS NAME RIGHT NOW, IF SOMEONE KNOWS HOW IT IS PLEASE POST IT.

NON-PGP CLEAR TEXT ADDRESS SUBMISSION TO VENDORS IS NOT SAFE!!!!!!!!!!  YOU WILL NOT BE SAFE USING THEIR INTEGRATED ENCRYPTION METHODS!!!!!!!!!

ANOTHER USERS HAS ALREADY POINTED OUT FORUM MODS DELETING HIS POSTS.  DPR AND HIS ADMINS DO NOT DELETE CRITICAL POSTS.  DO NOT TRUST A BUSINESS RUN BY THOSE THAT ARE NOT WILLING TO ACCEPT CRITICISM.

Look guys, I understand that SR has been down a lot and it is causing some of you great hardships... although I'm not sure how great these hardships are considering it may be in your best interest to stop banging H on the regular.  I also understand that a lot of you have been using SR for a long time and you are growing comfortable with the idea of purchasing your pleasures through this site; DO NOT BECOME COMPLACENT IN YOUR ATTEMPTS TO PURCHASE.

Do your research guys.  Take every precaution necessary to prevent yourself from winding up in prison.

I urge every one of you to take the time to use the search feature of the forums.  Take the time to look into Vlad, Limitless, and any others generally associated with that circle of trust.

DO NOT FALL PRAY TO SCAMMING/LEO TRAPPING!!!!

Lol. V1lad1m1r has been back on the Silk Road for a while now. Lol............. ::) That's been common knowledge for some time. Didn't you see his recent posts on forums? But yes, you are correct, he was an old btc vendor here last year that went off after people FE'd. But he is back again. You knew that though, I assume. And it is good to see someone follow history here, too. That was ages ago, last year in fact, and people still remember.

Piece, Love, and Fuck Haters.
Title: Re: Hey have u all herd of the site almost just like SR?
Post by: LesbianRobot on April 29, 2013, 08:38 am
We always remember our history. For those who have been here long enough of course.
Title: Re: Hey have u all herd of the site almost just like SR?
Post by: joolz on April 29, 2013, 10:13 am
sheep my friends  sheep .
Title: Re: Hey have u all herd of the site almost just like SR?
Post by: joolz on April 29, 2013, 11:11 am
keep away !                keep away !

Sorry superstar, you are banned from using this forum!
Trolling the forum, breaking forum rules.
This ban is not set to expire.

I only asked a few questions
Title: Re: Hey have u all herd of the site almost just like SR?
Post by: ProudCannabian on April 29, 2013, 02:48 pm
KingJoeyMarketplace.onion opening soon!
LOL
Title: Re: Hey have u all herd of the site almost just like SR?
Post by: Dread on May 01, 2013, 07:40 am
Sounds like a pretty sketchy place, think I'll steer clear of it for now.
Title: Re: Hey have u all herd of the site almost just like SR?
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Title: Re: Hey have u all herd of the site almost just like SR?
Post by: Mcrad on May 03, 2013, 10:33 am

so i just jumped over to atlantis. im creating a vendor account to implement there use of escrow




now im with you im a fellow roader. but i currently do not have the spare coinage to create an SR vendor page...which i would completely prefer




(i feel like a total trator... dont hate me)
Title: Re: Hey have u all herd of the site almost just like SR?
Post by: PBmolly on May 03, 2013, 10:50 am

so i just jumped over to atlantis. im creating a vendor account to implement there use of escrow

now im with you im a fellow roader. but i currently do not have the spare coinage to create an SR vendor page...which i would completely prefer

(i feel like a total trator... dont hate me)

Yes It did feel a little wrong at first, almost like I was cheating on a longtime girlfriend as I have been on the road for over a year now, but shit Atlantis is up 24/7 and I can order from the same vendors and not have to worry about SR being down so they cant see or ship my orders. I also started selling there, and honestly was not expecting such a great reaction. I have 30+ orders sent out, and so far no scammers and everyone has left 5/5 feedback and released funds from escrow as soon as there package lands. Its worth at least checking out I would say...
Title: Re: Hey have u all herd of the site almost just like SR?
Post by: boosties on May 04, 2013, 08:57 pm
ive said time and time again im a true sr fan! its the holy grail!!
however i do like the feature they have where you create one acct and
can buy or sell without actually having to be a vendor.(just want to move some
extra you had around) but on the other side i guess it would be slightly harder
to gauge scamming.idk