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Title: visit from the task force
Post by: hovec on April 01, 2013, 08:07 pm
Not sure where to put this, but I wasn't going to post it in the newbies forum.. Anyway, I made my first order from the silk road 9 days ago. Ordered 1 gram of mdma. Well about an hour ago, what looked like two door to door salesmen knocked on my door in normal civilian clothes so I answered. The guy said "are you Cory?" So I said yep thinking nothing of it. He pulls out his badge and says hes with the county task force and he wants to talk to me about some packages I've ordered in the mail. So instantly I knew I was hit. He then goes on to ask what I ordered. I told him I had ordered 1 gram of mdma for personal use. He tells me it was methamphetamine. So I'm guessing either mdma shows up as meth in their tests or the vendor sent me meth. Well he asked who sent it. Thats when I said I'm not comfortable talking about it until I have a lawyer. So he says hes going to give me two days to think about it and then hes coming back with papers. And in cop talk that basically means he wamts me to turn snitch because he assumes I know who sent it to me. So basically I'm going to jail when he comes back. Luckily I only ordered a gram.

So basically, to any silk road newbies, I guess never use your real name when you order. Or at least be more careful than I was. Not sure what all I did wrong but using my name was definitely a mistake..
Title: Re: visit from the task force
Post by: RedSkullVice on April 01, 2013, 08:13 pm
The only mistake you made was ever admitting guilt..deny,deny, deny and wait for your lawyer.
Title: Re: visit from the task force
Post by: scout on April 01, 2013, 08:17 pm
I told him I had ordered 1 gram of mdma for personal use. He tells me it was methamphetamine. So I'm guessing either mdma shows up as meth in their tests or the vendor sent me meth. Well he asked who sent it. Thats when I said I'm not comfortable talking about it until I have a lawyer. So he says hes going to give me two days to think about it and then hes coming back with papers. And in cop talk that basically means he wamts me to turn snitch because he assumes I know who sent it to me. So basically I'm going to jail when he comes back. Luckily I only ordered a gram.

WHY would you admit to ordering it and tell them exactly what you ordered?!?!?!  Have you read anything on these forums?  You NEVER admit to it and you NEVER answer questions like that -- you talk to a lawyer!
Title: Re: visit from the task force
Post by: GreenPEAs on April 01, 2013, 08:18 pm
3,4-methylenedioxymethamphetamine

It has the methamphetamine backbone. In the shitty field test they do, it will test as methamphetamine. You'll have to prove it isn't meth by having them send it for GC/MS or more specific testing. Doesn't matter though because MDMA is schedule 1.

You should have never, ever, ever admitted it was yours.

When they come back, don't say a fucking word. Talk to your parents, tell them everything, get a lawyer, and do not say a fucking word when they come back. I'm assuming you're very young by your post. Don't let this fuck up your life.
Title: Re: visit from the task force
Post by: hovec on April 01, 2013, 08:20 pm
Well thing is I live with my dad and its his house. I don't want him getting heat for what I ordered. And had I denied they would have gotten him involved. I'd rather take my charge then putting pressure on my dad. Since it was only a gram I'll take time served and get it over with.
Title: Re: visit from the task force
Post by: wiggum on April 01, 2013, 09:14 pm
Are you in the US?  If you don't want to say what county you're in, can you say the state, or at least are you in a city or rural area?  Was the shipment USPS mail?

It's bizarre they would be able to detect only one gram unless they had a dog sniffing every package.  Did you use a known good vendor?  Almost seems like you ordered from LEO.

As others have said, you blew it by admitting to anything.  You say NOTHING.  All you say is "I have no idea what you're talking about" and then ask him to leave.  Don't engage in conversation, shut up and ask him to leave.  Your dad will not get in trouble even if you lie because he didn't do anything.  They can't prosecute him for something you did.  Much better to keep your mouth shut and get in trouble with your dad than get in trouble with LE. 

Now they are probably going to threaten you with a federal felony (even if it's an empty threat) for using US mail to receive drugs to try to make you ID the vendor.

You should get a lawyer now, and don't talk to the cops until then.  Are you a minor?  If you're a minor the cops probably shouldn't have asked you questions outside the presence of your dad.  Maybe a lawyer could get your statement to the cops thrown out, and that is their only evidence.  If you're a minor.

Download Eraser or something and delete your hard drive and get rid of anything illegal in your home.
Title: Re: visit from the task force
Post by: tango on April 01, 2013, 10:40 pm
Lol...

what are you like 16?
Title: Re: visit from the task force
Post by: AllDayLong on April 01, 2013, 11:27 pm
You should get a lawyer now, and don't talk to the cops until then.  Are you a minor?  If you're a minor the cops probably shouldn't have asked you questions outside the presence of your dad.  Maybe a lawyer could get your statement to the cops thrown out, and that is their only evidence.  If you're a minor.

Download Eraser or something and delete your hard drive and get rid of anything illegal in your home.
Yeah, you fucked up. The police showing up at your door is scary. If you aren't ready than don't fucking order. You think what people on here are saying about a clean house is a joke? If you open the door to these fuckers, they can do whatever they want. Maybe they "smell weed" and bang probable cause for a warrant and they are tearing your house apart. That is if you don't bend over like this guy and confess immediately... in which case I don't see how they didn't search your house, consider yourself lucky as shit because what wiggum said might work with the right lawyer.
Title: Re: visit from the task force
Post by: sorasgaze on April 01, 2013, 11:40 pm
Sorry some of these people would rather make jokes rather than help you out,
you have 2 days to clean up evidence, message me and I'll help you out with wiping stuff clean, I'm paranoid a lot of the time from solid-black tinted window cars and sheriff officers constantly driving by my house due to a missing shipment which was marked delivered, and I've received a police letter from an HIDTA group before. I know how it is. Send me a PM if you need anything, I can help.
Title: Re: visit from the task force
Post by: xpsbud on April 01, 2013, 11:59 pm
You should get a lawyer now, and don't talk to the cops until then.  Are you a minor?  If you're a minor the cops probably shouldn't have asked you questions outside the presence of your dad.  Maybe a lawyer could get your statement to the cops thrown out, and that is their only evidence.  If you're a minor.

Download Eraser or something and delete your hard drive and get rid of anything illegal in your home.
Yeah, you fucked up. The police showing up at your door is scary. If you aren't ready than don't fucking order. You think what people on here are saying about a clean house is a joke? If you open the door to these fuckers, they can do whatever they want. Maybe they "smell weed" and bang probable cause for a warrant and they are tearing your house apart. That is if you don't bend over like this guy and confess immediately... in which case I don't see how they didn't search your house, consider yourself lucky as shit because what wiggum said might work with the right lawyer.

Agree. When I was just young and just starting out I had someone snitch out my place and four undercover came knocking on my door. After opening the door they informed me why they were there and if they could come in and talk about it > "lets go inside so we don't make a scene out here for your neighbors".  I started to stutter that I was uncomfortable with that and one cop says "come on I already smell the marijuana" lol. Next thing I know they are in the house and while starting to proceed around one says "you don't mind if we just clear this up and look around quick do you". Well I was young/dumb but I knew I didn't shit where I slept at least that week and said go ahead. Two cops stayed on me and the other two went walking around. I don't think they opened any drawers or anything but they did look into every room. After 15-20mins of finding nothing sitting in open site, the two came back to where we were by the front door and said "thanks" and walked out. Scared the shit out of me at the time how fast it all went down once I opened the door.

Moral of the story: don't have shit in the house where you sleep or at the very least have only personnel amounts hidden well, don't open the door or maybe go out the backdoor around to the front to talk but leave doors locked, don't consent to search if they somehow push there way in if you do mistakenly open the door, deny any knowledge of anything they are saying.
Title: Re: visit from the task force
Post by: astor on April 02, 2013, 12:50 am
This was a knock and talk, not a controlled delivery. If it was a controlled delivery, they would have had a package (which you didn't mention them having), plus a warrant, which they could/would use to enter the house. They left because they didn't have a warrant. That means they really didn't have any evidence on you and by denying it you stood a good chance of not getting prosecuted.

I think they do knock and talks because half the people get scared and admit it. It's a good way of nailing people when they have no other evidence on them, but what they really want is the sender. In this case, that's not possible.

You're right though, it's a small amount. If your state has drug court / drug diversion, you'll probably get that or probation instead of jail time.
Title: Re: visit from the task force
Post by: nuggets5 on April 02, 2013, 01:07 am
Dude, why would you admit. The only thing I can think of is if you can say you admitted to it by use of coersion. You won't go to jail for a gram, you'll likely get a diversion program
Title: Re: visit from the task force
Post by: jagfug on April 02, 2013, 01:09 am
Have any of you 'advisers' thought that you might be being used by LE for intel gathering? - Who's to say the OP isn't LE?

(something to ponder)

If he's that much of an asshole, let him crash and burn.

You mean to tell me, he figured out how to get this thing downloaded, placed an order, got over his 50 posts, and BAM! Nailed by "guys that WILL BE BACK" ???

This sounds totally retarded.

Title: Re: visit from the task force
Post by: swishersweet on April 02, 2013, 02:18 am
You shouldn't have talked down on the Basedgod.
Title: Re: visit from the task force
Post by: Smashmouth on April 02, 2013, 02:20 am
Have any of you 'advisers' thought that you might be being used by LE for intel gathering? - Who's to say the OP isn't LE?

(something to ponder)

If he's that much of an asshole, let him crash and burn.

You mean to tell me, he figured out how to get this thing downloaded, placed an order, got over his 50 posts, and BAM! Nailed by "guys that WILL BE BACK" ???

This sounds totally retarded.

I agree. The OP is clearly an ass. Let him read through the forums on his own.

This is probably a troll.
Title: Re: visit from the task force
Post by: swishersweet on April 02, 2013, 02:25 am
Have any of you 'advisers' thought that you might be being used by LE for intel gathering? - Who's to say the OP isn't LE?

(something to ponder)

If he's that much of an asshole, let him crash and burn.

You mean to tell me, he figured out how to get this thing downloaded, placed an order, got over his 50 posts, and BAM! Nailed by "guys that WILL BE BACK" ???

This sounds totally retarded.

I agree. The OP is clearly an ass. Let him read through the forums on his own.

This is probably a troll.



I think you're right. He's such a damn goof that he even put his name in the post!
Title: Re: visit from the task force
Post by: jentyb on April 02, 2013, 02:27 am
Dude that sucks but the only thing that can possibly save you right now is if you live in the usa and if you are a minor you have a good chance at getting off because they cannot question a minor without his parent/guardian or his lawyer and you had neither present... Other then that you might be screwed because you admitted guilt and it's pretty much case closed.. Clean up if you have shit around get a lawyer and keep your mouth shut from here on out!!
Title: Re: visit from the task force
Post by: KeyserSoze on April 02, 2013, 02:49 am
I told him I had ordered 1 gram of mdma for personal use. He tells me it was methamphetamine. So I'm guessing either mdma shows up as meth in their tests or the vendor sent me meth. Well he asked who sent it. Thats when I said I'm not comfortable talking about it until I have a lawyer. So he says hes going to give me two days to think about it and then hes coming back with papers. And in cop talk that basically means he wamts me to turn snitch because he assumes I know who sent it to me. So basically I'm going to jail when he comes back. Luckily I only ordered a gram.

So basically, to any silk road newbies, I guess never use your real name when you order. Or at least be more careful than I was. Not sure what all I did wrong but using my name was definitely a mistake..

FACE - FUCKING - PALM
Title: Re: visit from the task force
Post by: LEGACY on April 02, 2013, 02:57 am
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Title: Re: visit from the task force
Post by: AllDayLong on April 02, 2013, 02:59 am
Have any of you 'advisers' thought that you might be being used by LE for intel gathering? - Who's to say the OP isn't LE?

(something to ponder)

If he's that much of an asshole, let him crash and burn.

You mean to tell me, he figured out how to get this thing downloaded, placed an order, got over his 50 posts, and BAM! Nailed by "guys that WILL BE BACK" ???

This sounds totally retarded.

I agree. The OP is clearly an ass. Let him read through the forums on his own.

This is probably a troll.



I think you're right. He's such a damn goof that he even put his name in the post!

This is literally what these task force guys do all day everyday. Not sure what "intel" they would be gathering... Anyway that's how they operate, try to scare the shit out of you, tell you you're going to get raped, but maybe you can help yourself. Then kick you lose to think about your freedom. That's how people get caught. Snitches. He had one gram, they want the guy with 1000.
Title: Re: visit from the task force
Post by: AllDayLong on April 02, 2013, 03:08 am
Not to mention this is all said over and fucking over again. I think it is appropriate to keep throwing in as hopefully the next person will stop and think for a second before they go and get themselves arrested like this guy.
Title: Re: visit from the task force
Post by: PePinJeNek on April 02, 2013, 08:17 am
G'day Corey,

See mate this was your mistake you should have declared to customs
that you were importing 1 gram of MDMA from the world wide web.

So just for next time you order drugs make sure to alert customs that
your expecting a package that contains MDMA and what country it
comes from.  This will prevent them boys from knocking on your door.

All the best to you.

P.s Keep reading the forums

Peace
Title: Re: visit from the task force
Post by: colorblack on April 02, 2013, 09:15 am
Nah, don't buy it. Story sounds odd. Why would he use his name in the OP? Also, if he's THAT immature (didn't want to use the word "dumb" and be mean) that he just immediately told them everything, he'd also be shitting himself.. not casually strolling on over to the SR forums and posting about his experience. He'd be googling lawyers and deleting TOR and texting his gf sad faces.
This post seems off. Either trolling, LE, or made up.
Title: Re: visit from the task force
Post by: hovec on April 02, 2013, 12:20 pm
Its in Indiana USA & I'm over 18. Yea I know u shouldn't have said Shit but its different when they surprise you out if the blue at your fucking door. And ty to those with decent advice.And fuck you fugjug or whatever & other assholes that are just Shit talking this is serious and actually scary to me so fuck off. The only thing I can come up with is that somebody snitched on me and tipped themoff aboutthe package because the dude that taught me sr has been usingitfor over a year and I diditjust like him. The supposed trusted friend that paidfor the gram hasn't contacted measking where it is in 3 days now so I'm pretty sure he fucking ratted but I been fuckingwith him for years so idk what to think. They didn't say a word about how they found the package or anything.They kept saying "packages" & I'm still missing a package that was said to be delivered on the 29th but they didn't say they found that one so I don't know. Shit is stressful.

Sorry for bad grammar im on android
Title: Re: visit from the task force
Post by: hovec on April 02, 2013, 12:30 pm
Nah, don't buy it. Story sounds odd. Why would he use his name in the OP? Also, if he's THAT immature (didn't want to use the word "dumb" and be mean) that he just immediately told them everything, he'd also be shitting himself.. not casually strolling on over to the SR forums and posting about his experience. He'd be googling lawyers and deleting TOR and texting his gf sad faces.
This post seems off. Either trolling, LE, or made up.

ya cool post im gaining so much good info by making this post im going to bust you all. if I could afford a lawyer I wouldnt be on here seeing if anyone has similar experiences and got away with it. I already got the answer I wanted, which was to know why my molly tested for meth. that is all bye
Title: Re: visit from the task force
Post by: smokecrack on April 02, 2013, 12:48 pm
no one is this dumb
Title: Re: visit from the task force
Post by: lenka58 on April 02, 2013, 03:12 pm
For what it's worth, I think this is real and he is that dumb. Low hanging fruit for LE.

Then again, the original post was made on April Fools Day.

Hmm...
Title: Re: visit from the task force
Post by: MrAnonymous on April 02, 2013, 03:49 pm
Where are you situated?

Very, very unlikely for the LE to come knocking for a single gram.

I think someone thinks it's telling story time again  ::)
Title: Re: visit from the task force
Post by: mito on April 02, 2013, 06:12 pm
fake!
Title: Re: visit from the task force
Post by: smokecrack on April 02, 2013, 06:42 pm
Its in Indiana USA & I'm over 18. Yea I know u shouldn't have said Shit but its different when they surprise you out if the blue at your fucking door. And ty to those with decent advice.And fuck you fugjug or whatever & other assholes that are just Shit talking this is serious and actually scary to me so fuck off. The only thing I can come up with is that somebody snitched on me and tipped themoff aboutthe package because the dude that taught me sr has been usingitfor over a year and I diditjust like him. The supposed trusted friend that paidfor the gram hasn't contacted measking where it is in 3 days now so I'm pretty sure he fucking ratted but I been fuckingwith him for years so idk what to think. They didn't say a word about how they found the package or anything.They kept saying "packages" & I'm still missing a package that was said to be delivered on the 29th but they didn't say they found that one so I don't know. Shit is stressful.

Sorry for bad grammar im on android
lol, if this is real lol
so you give more identifying information? the state? youre probably the only one in indiana that this exact situation happened to on that exact date. i would bet on it lol and youre on your phone lol

just delete your shit and gtfo lol
Title: Re: visit from the task force
Post by: leduc on April 02, 2013, 07:10 pm
it sounds BS to me.
Title: Re: visit from the task force
Post by: pPharm on April 02, 2013, 07:24 pm
There's no way it's real. In the US, it would be US Postal Inspectors that do the delivery. They would deliver it not just ask your name. And then they would bust you near immediately after you took possession. They would not just ask who you are and say they're with the "county task force". You could then just say You never ordered anything and that's it.

Entire story sounds like BS.
Title: Re: visit from the task force
Post by: xpat on April 02, 2013, 07:37 pm
You shouldn't have talked down on the Basedgod.

YES #TYBG
Title: Re: visit from the task force
Post by: jentyb on April 02, 2013, 07:48 pm
Ok either your really that dumb or a troll you just put your name, state on a forum associated where you buy drugs lmao.. I really hope this is trolling
Title: Re: visit from the task force
Post by: ralphwaldo on April 02, 2013, 07:52 pm
if it is real, the OP is obviously getting himself in to trouble through his lack of tact.. (as a philosopher once said.. the universe is just, and no man has more than he deserves..) but as it stands, it looks like BS. and people/ the OP might say, well what intel do i have to gather? well initially it was a warning to everybody to NOT use your real name, but as most vendors say, you BETTER use your real name. therefore the new guys come along and see this scary warning to not use your real name, then all the best vendors demand that you DO use your real name, and from then on you're too scared to order.. its all a scare tactic with these bullshit posts. it's not so much about gathering intel, it's about the vibes that they put out into the community
Title: Re: visit from the task force
Post by: Magic Man on April 02, 2013, 08:07 pm
^ Well said, they try to plant little seeds and undermine anything they can to deter a couple people. Must be trying to make some overtime.
Title: Re: visit from the task force
Post by: jagfug on April 02, 2013, 08:19 pm
For what it's worth, I think this is real and he is that dumb. Low hanging fruit for LE.

Then again, the original post was made on April Fools Day.

Hmm...

Thank you Lenka58! - Nailed it!
I feel stupid for not seeing it!  :P

In the event it's all true, and stranger shit has happened, let natural selection take care of it.

Was the Vendor name mentioned? - I still have this 5% theory, that it could very well be true!  :o

If so, the vendor was LE, and you could do us all a favor by outing him. Also what kind of 'friend' would out you for buying him drugs??

You can't blame us for being cavalier about this, that is, if it is true.

Sounds like the 'task force' wasn't up to task. You'd be in a holding cell by now.

There's some guy, or group of people, posting ridiculous shit like this, and it is always a hypothetical, "They're on to me, what should I do" Type of thing,

Worst thing I did was respond to it, but I guess I'm not alone,.

As far as 'gathering intel' - I meant, picking our brains. See how we'd respond to similar situations so they know what to do and what not to do.

Far fetched, but food for thought. 
Title: Re: visit from the task force
Post by: 420SLINGER on April 02, 2013, 08:40 pm
Well thing is I live with my dad and its his house. I don't want him getting heat for what I ordered. And had I denied they would have gotten him involved. I'd rather take my charge then putting pressure on my dad. Since it was only a gram I'll take time served and get it over with.

your stupid

 if you kept your month shut they would have nothing

Hell they could not have even arrest you or your dad

keep your mouth shut say nothing

your dad is involved as this point anyway
Title: Re: visit from the task force
Post by: uniwiz on April 02, 2013, 09:06 pm
Have any of you 'advisers' thought that you might be being used by LE for intel gathering? - Who's to say the OP isn't LE?

(something to ponder)

If he's that much of an asshole, let him crash and burn.

You mean to tell me, he figured out how to get this thing downloaded, placed an order, got over his 50 posts, and BAM! Nailed by "guys that WILL BE BACK" ???

This sounds totally retarded.

Very wise;)
Title: Re: visit from the task force
Post by: fanfuckingtastic on April 02, 2013, 09:35 pm
love how no one went, APRIL FOOLS DAY.

haha you all probably fell for it..
Title: Re: visit from the task force
Post by: zerik on April 02, 2013, 10:06 pm
This has to be an April fools thing.

Well just in case I am not busy at the moment so here it goes:

It's unlikey you will get much if any time. You will probably go to drug court or some other diversion program.

This is what happens if you don't plan for the worst case scenario and get caught off guard. My gosh you made their job so easy all they did was ask what you ordered and you spilled the beans right away. I doubt anything serious penalty awaits you. They may not even come back as you gave them enough to arrest you on the spot.

If they do arrest you you will get a free lawyer if you can't afford one. You can contact the public defenders office ahead of time to see if they will represent you before you are charged. Some will do that and some don't. If you get a lawyer a head of time he/she can work something out if LE decides to arrest you such as a time to surrender and ROR or bail paid. If you wait, they may decide to come back after 5 on a Friday so you sit in jail till mon. However, your lawyer may find out that they of no intention of picking you up and you can relax.

Had you said, "What are you talking about" and denied the package they wouldn't have been able to prove anything. 

This is why people have to know there rights and what LE can and can not do.

Always deny you ordered the package then say nothing more.

Never consent to a search of your person or property.

Never let LE into your house. If you know it is them don't even answer the door. Also don't step out side of your house. If you are going to talk to them (which you shouldn't) do so through the door.

Never make their job easy and your lawyers hard. You want that to be the other way around.

Don't plead your case to LE. You plead your case in court.

If it is a joke you managed to get 3 pages to the thread so, good I guess.
Title: Re: visit from the task force
Post by: swishersweet on April 03, 2013, 12:22 am
Its in Indiana USA & I'm over 18. Yea I know u shouldn't have said Shit but its different when they surprise you out if the blue at your fucking door. And ty to those with decent advice.And fuck you fugjug or whatever & other assholes that are just Shit talking this is serious and actually scary to me so fuck off. The only thing I can come up with is that somebody snitched on me and tipped themoff aboutthe package because the dude that taught me sr has been usingitfor over a year and I diditjust like him. The supposed trusted friend that paidfor the gram hasn't contacted measking where it is in 3 days now so I'm pretty sure he fucking ratted but I been fuckingwith him for years so idk what to think. They didn't say a word about how they found the package or anything.They kept saying "packages" & I'm still missing a package that was said to be delivered on the 29th but they didn't say they found that one so I don't know. Shit is stressful.

Sorry for bad grammar im on android

THIS IS BBB/DRUGDEALER!!! I have a gut feeling lol ;D
Title: Re: visit from the task force
Post by: boosties on April 03, 2013, 02:57 am
 ;D ahahahahaa! this whole thing is ridiculous!!! love it!!
Title: Re: visit from the task force
Post by: nameviolated on April 03, 2013, 10:38 pm
no one is this dumb

Some people are this dumb. 

If they didn't read you your rights, I would just deny everything, say that you never said you were expecting it, you thought they meant something else, when they came knocking again and make sure you have no texts on your phone, your computer is clean and any drugs or related items are out of the house.
Title: Re: visit from the task force
Post by: Green Haze on April 04, 2013, 03:01 am
 :-\ Quite a bit disappointed in this group of posters. Thank you to all who have tried helping this person. Please everyone, keep in mind that not everyone has spent hours behind a monitor. Not all of us have taken classes to improve our knowledge of new technology. I am not giving out any excuses, but I feel we need to be more accommodating to someone asking for help. We do not know how LE is planning on approaching things SR related. We also do not know who on SR is LE. ALL of this is relatively new and no one should ever underestimate LE, which I see a lot of you doing in this thread. Did anyone stop to ask this poster about his method of acquiring his bitcoin? That is a question I would like answered.
Title: Re: visit from the task force
Post by: boosties on April 06, 2013, 05:10 pm
im totally sympathetic to this issue!! as i myself am totally paranoid! but the fact that it was posted on april 1st.... and where is the op?
Title: Re: visit from the task force
Post by: Green Haze on April 06, 2013, 05:17 pm
The OP could very well be sitting in a cell. Or, has gotten too paranoid to even bother with replying. Either way, I will assume ALL stories are true on here as far as LE is concerned. What is the worse that can happen? Make you more cautious? It obviously isn't stopping the market and I am pretty sure LE can see that, if in fact they are trying scare tactics this silly.
Title: Re: visit from the task force
Post by: boosties on April 06, 2013, 09:57 pm
they do use tactics like this one!! however i feel like if you are placing an order,
especially to your house, and you are a recreational user or any user for that matter.
it is common sense as what to do at this point!! the first time i placed an order and was
totally paranoid till it showed up! the whole time i already knew what i was gonna do if
it went south or someone showed up at my door! if u frequent this or any other site....
u should always be ready!! my heart goes out to him if this story is true. but at the same time
it seems like he made it easy for them! if i had the same thing happen i damn sure wouldnt be hopping
back on here! kills your whole case!
Title: Re: visit from the task force
Post by: AllDayLong on April 06, 2013, 10:02 pm
they do use tactics like this one!! however i feel like if you are placing an order,
especially to your house, and you are a recreational user or any user for that matter.
it is common sense as what to do at this point!! the first time i placed an order and was
totally paranoid till it showed up! the whole time i already knew what i was gonna do if
it went south or someone showed up at my door! if u frequent this or any other site....
u should always be ready!! my heart goes out to him if this story is true. but at the same time
it seems like he made it easy for them! if i had the same thing happen i damn sure wouldnt be hopping
back on here! kills your whole case!

What stupid fucking tactics, anyway yeah I think there are enough threads of this nature for everyone to view, I don't know why someone would come and post details if they suspect they are being investigated. Way too many details here.
Title: Re: visit from the task force
Post by: boosties on April 06, 2013, 10:22 pm
tru dat alldaylong!!! hopefully his name's not really cory.... they could just copy and
paste right to his case file!
Title: Re: visit from the task force
Post by: karensupreme on April 07, 2013, 06:47 am
If you look at Hovec's posting history it seems a little suspicious....his story seems to conflict with itself. He starts out in the Noob section trying to get to fifty, he answers a few questions and at one point he mentions that he order MDMA. He states the following "Ordered 1 gram of MDMA shipped to my parents place US to US to test the waters..

Anyway, 1 week later I call my mother to see if any mail arrived for me. She says "we don't get mail to our house" :l So she explains that there was mail stolen from mailboxes in the neighborhood yadayadayada and they switched to a P.O. Box and had all mail to their home stopped. She says that mail gets forwarded to their PO box that is sent to their home address but i'm weary because its Saturday and the sender said the order should arrive Thursday.. " (this indicates to me that he doesn't live at his parents house, at least not full time)

He starts posting on March 30th, the day he registered. He makes a handful of posts and then takes a break and resumes on April 1st, this is when the bulk of his posting takes place and its all the non-sense gibberish to get to 50 posts. He states on April 1st at 2:12 pm "need more drugs. less sobriety.
its been 8 days so im hoping i get my package today from SR :D".

He stops posting at 3:21 pm on April 1st and comes back 5 hours later and at 8:07 pm says "Not sure where to put this, but I wasn't going to post it in the newbies forum.. Anyway, I made my first order from the silk road 9 days ago. Ordered 1 gram of mdma" - I believe that was his 50th post.

Someone asked him about where he ordered it to and he states the following "Well thing is I live with my dad and its his house. I don't want him getting heat for what I ordered."

Then he makes this odd statement while in the midst of berating everyone "The supposed trusted friend that paidfor the gram hasn't contacted measking where it is in 3 days now so I'm pretty sure he fucking ratted but I been fuckingwith him for years so idk what to think." And yet he never mentioned that he ordered this for a friend or that a friend paid for it earlier....we are lead to believe he ordered it for himself.

And he hasn't logged back in since April 2nd. So I'm thinking 1 of 2 things is going on....

He saw we weren't buying it and decided to quit while he was ahead or he really is in jail but there were enough oddities about his story and inconsistencies that it is questionable at best whether this is true. And I am almost certain if the police come to your door and ask you questions about the drugs you ordered and you're dumb enough to answer the door in the first place and then say "yes the drugs are mine but I'm not comfortable saying anything else to you without a lawyer..."you are not going to be given two days to potentially destroy other incriminating evidence or leave the county/state you are in and get away. The whole thing reeks of bullshit.
Title: Re: visit from the task force
Post by: Green Haze on April 07, 2013, 01:36 pm
Yeah, well I agree with you all on how sketchy it seems. I just like to advise everyone to at least let threads like this sink in a bit, whether you think it is bullshit or not. LE are going to have to be creative to catch people, so all these stories that are "fear mongering", could actually hold some value. Be safe fellas. 8)
Title: Re: visit from the task force
Post by: boosties on April 07, 2013, 04:24 pm
listen GH, like i said im p-noid! i followed it from the beginning and all threads like this!
but if this situation is a lesson to someone... then its a very basic one that i feel should
already be practiced before ever getting on here!! anyway! like i said hope cory is ok!  :o
Title: Re: visit from the task force
Post by: AllDayLong on April 07, 2013, 07:20 pm
listen GH, like i said im p-noid! i followed it from the beginning and all threads like this!
but if this situation is a lesson to someone... then its a very basic one that i feel should
already be practiced before ever getting on here!! anyway! like i said hope cory is ok!  :o

I'm sure lots of people are on here because they don't know how to buy drugs from criminals otherwise... Anyway if they have never had to deal with the police  on their ass before it could be quite a shock, hopefully if they understand these concepts enough it will be able to shine through in their scared clouded judgement state of mind.
Title: Re: visit from the task force
Post by: boosties on April 07, 2013, 10:30 pm
listen GH, like i said im p-noid! i followed it from the beginning and all threads like this!
but if this situation is a lesson to someone... then its a very basic one that i feel should
already be practiced before ever getting on here!! anyway! like i said hope cory is ok!  :o

I'm sure lots of people are on here because they don't know how to buy drugs from criminals otherwise... Anyway if they have never had to deal with the police  on their ass before it could be quite a shock, hopefully if they understand these concepts enough it will be able to shine through in their scared clouded judgement state of mind.
  very true! that being said i would think one would do alot more research in that case....
but whatever. hopefully it was an april fools joke and the op is ok!
Title: Re: visit from the task force
Post by: PBmolly on April 08, 2013, 01:33 am
I don't believe this was a Apil fools joke. My friend was visited from the department of homeland security and he lives somewhat around the same area as the OP. He was smart tho and could tell they were prob cops by the way they were knocking, so he did not answer the door. There were two cars, both in unmarked, one was even a foreign car he thinks. He did not ever see the officers. They called and messaged his cell phone, but he has not replied. It has been almost 3 or 4 days with no contact from any LE. They did not kick in his door, even tho he was there with a dirty house and this was a 30+g package I guess from a trusted vendor up north. Too bad the OP was so scared he thought admitting it would save his ass. Hope to see him reply.

Title: Re: visit from the task force
Post by: jagfug on April 08, 2013, 02:27 am
Come and get me LE! All you noobs with 50 posts, you too!

I got so many different security measures in place, that I want to test them out!

So send your DHS people here, and anyone else, to intimidate me. I gotta see if these guns fire!

They will be pointed at your head as you press the doorbell at my front door. Don't bother ducking. I've got that covered.

Thank God for guns!
Title: Re: visit from the task force
Post by: PBmolly on April 08, 2013, 02:33 am
Oh so bc you have 400+ posts, you are immune to all LE and investigations?  lol ;D

Good luck shooting at the FEDS.
Title: Re: visit from the task force
Post by: jagfug on April 08, 2013, 02:52 am
You made my point!

+1 Karma to you

FEDS doesn't change my blood pressure.

Nor do any of these other scenarios here.

I've been fucked with by LE before, and have a lawyer on retainer at all times.

Not that I need it, he just happens to be a friend of the "family"

Look at all of us reacting to something that a noob put up for us to fight over like piranhas with raw chicken!

At this point, it's obvious to most of us that this was all bullshit from the beginning. I'll be on the lookout for the next one, don't worry.

"April 15th- Don't know what to do, the IRS is at my door, they want the tax revenues from my sales on Silk Road, WHAT SHOULD I DO??""

I wouldn't put it past you all~!

peace

jagfug
Title: Re: visit from the task force
Post by: PBmolly on April 08, 2013, 03:04 am
You made my point!

+1 Karma to you

FEDS doesn't change my blood pressure.

Nor do any of these other scenarios here.

I've been fucked with by LE before, and have a lawyer on retainer at all times.

Not that I need it, he just happens to be a friend of the "family"

Look at all of us reacting to something that a noob put up for us to fight over like piranhas with raw chicken!

At this point, it's obvious to most of us that this was all bullshit from the beginning. I'll be on the lookout for the next one, don't worry.

"April 15th- Don't know what to do, the IRS is at my door, they want the tax revenues from my sales on Silk Road, WHAT SHOULD I DO??""

I wouldn't put it past you all~!

peace

jagfug

It is good to know that at least some people are prepared for the worst. But I do not think this was made up, as my friend got a visit from the department of homeland security a few days after the OP posted around the same area. Vender even confirmed LE intercepting package.

I seriously LOL'ed about the IRS part in your post! haha
Title: Re: visit from the task force
Post by: 2513415 on April 09, 2013, 04:58 am
No mames guey
Title: Re: visit from the task force
Post by: Northwest Nuggets on April 09, 2013, 06:58 am
I think this is real.
Title: Re: visit from the task force
Post by: oldtoby on April 10, 2013, 05:01 am
I am almost certain if the police come to your door and ask you questions about the drugs you ordered and you're dumb enough to answer the door in the first place and then say "yes the drugs are mine but I'm not comfortable saying anything else to you without a lawyer..."you are not going to be given two days to potentially destroy other incriminating evidence or leave the county/state you are in and get away. The whole thing reeks of bullshit.

This is the one element that kills the story for me. That being said, there's just enough "truthiness" here to make it possible. Not plausible, but possible. So I say treat it as an object lesson.

I'm sure lots of people are on here because they don't know how to buy drugs from criminals otherwise... Anyway if they have never had to deal with the police  on their ass before it could be quite a shock, hopefully if they understand these concepts enough it will be able to shine through in their scared clouded judgement state of mind.

This is well said and damned humane of you I would add. The object lesson here, I think, is that you practice your damn story. Even if it's just a bare excuse. Even if it's just "I want to talk to my lawyer." If LE are challenging you, they're looking for the dead giveaway reaction. And the only way to not give it to them is to be one stone cold mofo, or to practice. I drive the same way. "If *this* were to happen, I would do that..." I rehearse, just every once in awhile. Cause when you're finally in the moment you're in the moment.

Best wishes for the poster if he's real.
Title: Re: visit from the task force
Post by: kingghb on April 10, 2013, 05:05 am
Sorry to be so harsh, but are you lying or a complete idiot? Who the hell would tell anyone, let a lone cops that they had ordered a schedule substance through the postage system?
Title: Re: visit from the task force
Post by: njguido on April 11, 2013, 01:32 am
Task force shows up to this supposed kids house for a single gram, he admits to the crime, and for some reason he isn't arrested on the spot? yeah ok... cops must have been feeling nice that day and decided not to do their job...
Title: Re: visit from the task force
Post by: slirp on April 11, 2013, 06:20 pm
He never had possession or constructive possession which is good.  Now he needs to keep his mouth shut.  I'm sure his dad doesn't want to bail him out of jail.
Title: Re: visit from the task force
Post by: LesbianRobot on April 15, 2013, 08:45 am
I am called BS on it. The whole time I was reading the story I was thinking "April Fools!". I wonder which "Task Force" it was? I've never heard them call themselves just "Task Force" lol
Title: Re: visit from the task force
Post by: Green Haze on April 16, 2013, 04:10 am
I know this is off topic, but in reguards to your name "Lesbian Robot"... Do you have a clinktoris and chest dispensaries?  ;D
Title: Re: visit from the task force
Post by: AllDayLong on April 16, 2013, 03:11 pm
I am called BS on it. The whole time I was reading the story I was thinking "April Fools!". I wonder which "Task Force" it was? I've never heard them call themselves just "Task Force" lol

Well it would be the task force of whatever city or county he lives in. I don't know why you would expect someone to reveal their city.
Title: Re: visit from the task force
Post by: slirp on April 16, 2013, 06:14 pm
I am called BS on it. The whole time I was reading the story I was thinking "April Fools!". I wonder which "Task Force" it was? I've never heard them call themselves just "Task Force" lol

Well it would be the task force of whatever city or county he lives in. I don't know why you would expect someone to reveal their city.

Agreed.  There are <insert drug unit> "task force"s all over the US.
Title: Re: visit from the task force
Post by: kingghb on April 16, 2013, 06:18 pm
Narcotics Task Force  8) Simple enought
Title: Re: visit from the task force
Post by: thegreenmachine on April 17, 2013, 05:07 pm
True Story:
I know a couple of cats that were in the weed biz. One guy from the east coast sends about $20K via fedex, in a book (middle cut out) to a medical marijuana state.

It's intercepted (how is still a mystery), and the "Task Force" (state narcos) show up and start quizzing his wife about the cash (he wasn't home). The dude didn't really fit the profile (although he was in fact a mid-level dealer - probably brokering 20lbs a month, growing another 10-20)...kids, nice condo, real job, clean cut. The cops knew he was up to no good, but he clammed up and sent them to his attorney. The cops eventually just faded away. He's still dealing.

Cops go for low hanging fruit. If you're easy, they'll nail you. If you are slippery, they might lose interest, unless you get somebody with a hard-on, or your moving serious weight. Then the feds take notice, but same story with them. They got numbers to make, reports to write, all that jazz. State narcos really are supposed to chase the big players, but are hassled all the time with low and mid-level guys. It's all an evil numbers game...
Title: Re: visit from the task force
Post by: LesbianRobot on April 19, 2013, 09:08 pm
I know this is off topic, but in reguards to your name "Lesbian Robot"... Do you have a clinktoris and chest dispensaries?  ;D

Bwahahaha!
Title: Re: visit from the task force
Post by: thereefers245 on April 19, 2013, 09:59 pm
You could always plead mental retardation. If I were a judge I sure as hell would believe you.
Title: Re: visit from the task force
Post by: LesbianRobot on April 19, 2013, 10:04 pm
You could always plead mental retardation. If I were a judge I sure as hell would believe you.

lulz
Title: Re: visit from the task force
Post by: The Missus on June 08, 2013, 04:10 am
Hahaha.....hilarious.
Title: Re: visit from the task force
Post by: scout on June 08, 2013, 04:13 am
Hahaha.....hilarious.

No reason to bump threads that haven't been posted in for months.  :\

Title: Re: visit from the task force
Post by: merryman99 on June 09, 2013, 07:41 am
I told him I had ordered 1 gram of mdma for personal use. He tells me it was methamphetamine. So I'm guessing either mdma shows up as meth in their tests or the vendor sent me meth. Well he asked who sent it. Thats when I said I'm not comfortable talking about it until I have a lawyer. So he says hes going to give me two days to think about it and then hes coming back with papers. And in cop talk that basically means he wamts me to turn snitch because he assumes I know who sent it to me. So basically I'm going to jail when he comes back. Luckily I only ordered a gram.

WHY would you admit to ordering it and tell them exactly what you ordered?!?!?!  Have you read anything on these forums?  You NEVER admit to it and you NEVER answer questions like that -- you talk to a lawyer!

Jumping Fucking Jesus Whilst On A Fire Engulfed Pogo Stick.

You NEVER NEVER NEVER EVER give info to LEO.

You do not deserve to be a user of Silk Road.

Please delete your account and have someone drill holes into your skull.




Title: Re: visit from the task force
Post by: DrChong on June 09, 2013, 09:28 am
I told him I had ordered 1 gram of mdma for personal use. He tells me it was methamphetamine. So I'm guessing either mdma shows up as meth in their tests or the vendor sent me meth. Well he asked who sent it. Thats when I said I'm not comfortable talking about it until I have a lawyer. So he says hes going to give me two days to think about it and then hes coming back with papers. And in cop talk that basically means he wamts me to turn snitch because he assumes I know who sent it to me. So basically I'm going to jail when he comes back. Luckily I only ordered a gram.

WHY would you admit to ordering it and tell them exactly what you ordered?!?!?!  Have you read anything on these forums?  You NEVER admit to it and you NEVER answer questions like that -- you talk to a lawyer!

Jumping Fucking Jesus Whilst On A Fire Engulfed Pogo Stick.

You NEVER NEVER NEVER EVER give info to LEO.

You do not deserve to be a user of Silk Road.

Please delete your account and have someone drill holes into your skull.
If you give info to cops that isn't legally required (like name/address), you sorta deserve the penalty.