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Discussion => Silk Road discussion => Topic started by: OzFreelancer on February 05, 2013, 11:31 pm
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Shadh1 received a sentence of 2.5 years for importing and 18 months for trafficking (second sentence to commence 2 years into first sentence) for a total of 3.5 years with 1 year and 9 month non-parole period
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Absurd...
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When ignorance bitch-slaps you.
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Seems light though for the quantities? Nowhere near the maximums, the book has not been thrown. Probably because of the cooperation of the vendor showing police how SR works, giving up his customer list etc.
Better than a firing squad too.
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He's lucky he doesn't live in the U.S lmao...
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an obscene punishment for such a victimless crime. However, no where near what he could of gotten. I'd say he got off "lucky"
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This makes me confident in the future of the Road if it took being that stupid for him to get caught and he was only sentenced to 3.5 years total
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WTF. In my area a quarter pound of pot will get you 5 years. Lucky bastard.
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he got that low sentence because he snitched on everyone he could. people who ordered from him are not safe. Every order that was processing (address still not deleted) is in LEO hands. Everyone who ordered from him could be in potential danger if he did not delete the personal information. !!
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Shadh1 received a sentence of 2.5 years for importing and 18 months for trafficking (second sentence to commence 2 years into first sentence) for a total of 3.5 years with 1 year and 9 month non-parole period
Did he have any priors for trafficking or any kind of list of prior offenses?
Did he apply for a suspended sentence? Did they deny a suspended? Poor cunt...
So that 3.5 years is on the top yea? whats the bottom? where i am in aus you always get a minimum and a maximum stay i think its depending on behavior... or is that it no min or max just 3.5?
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Shadh1 received a sentence of 2.5 years for importing and 18 months for trafficking (second sentence to commence 2 years into first sentence) for a total of 3.5 years with 1 year and 9 month non-parole period
Did he have any priors for trafficking or any kind of list of prior offenses?
Did he apply for a suspended sentence? Did they deny a suspended? Poor cunt...
So that 3.5 years is on the top yea? whats the bottom? where i am in aus you always get a minimum and a maximum stay i think its depending on behavior... or is that it no min or max just 3.5?
He had no priors and mitigated his sentence by pleading guilty at the earliest opportunity and assisting authorities by showing them how Tor and SR work and giving access to his account.
His barrister applied for a fine (which is possible under the legislation), but this was rejected. He got a higher sentence for the importation of MDMA and coke than he did for trafficking of a larger variety of drugs.
His non-parole period is 1 year and 9 months.
I've written up a few more details at allthingsvice.com :)
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he got that low sentence because he snitched on everyone he could. people who ordered from him are not safe. Every order that was processing (address still not deleted) is in LEO hands. Everyone who ordered from him could be in potential danger if he did not delete the personal information. !!
So many things wrong with your assumption here. That LE would cut the sentence of a dealer in exchange for information on personal users would be the most obvious one. Relax
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i hope that little shit gets ass-raped in the poop-chute
or barbed wire up the date works just as well
that should teach him a lesson about being a dog and giving up his mates, and fucking over pretty much every one of us here on the road.
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i'd only be worried if i made big orders from him. and even if they got your info, if you're not from australia.. that info can't be used on you unless they contact non-austrlalian governments.
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he got that low sentence because he snitched on everyone he could. people who ordered from him are not safe. Every order that was processing (address still not deleted) is in LEO hands. Everyone who ordered from him could be in potential danger if he did not delete the personal information. !!
So many things wrong with your assumption here. That LE would cut the sentence of a dealer in exchange for information on personal users would be the most obvious one. Relax
I think he might be right. LE has always done that...? They're like notorious for that and "turning people into snitches." I'm not going to talk shit about Shadh1 but if he comes back to SR, or at least the forum, he better give us the full story.
Anyway, thanks for update OP. If he ever did anything in his life correctly, he probably deleted names and addresses. I bet everyone outside AUS is good. Although, the customers of his who's orders were being processed/ people who ordered from him recently might be being watched. I don't want to cause paranoia but that's the truth. Stay frosty.
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he got that low sentence because he snitched on everyone he could. people who ordered from him are not safe. Every order that was processing (address still not deleted) is in LEO hands. Everyone who ordered from him could be in potential danger if he did not delete the personal information. !!
So many things wrong with your assumption here. That LE would cut the sentence of a dealer in exchange for information on personal users would be the most obvious one. Relax
I think he might be right. LE has always done that...? They're like notorious for that and "turning people into snitches."
No, they don't turn dealers into snitches in the hope of nabbing their customers. I would usually say you have been watching too much telly, but even crime shows aren't silly enough to suggest that.
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he got that low sentence because he snitched on everyone he could. people who ordered from him are not safe. Every order that was processing (address still not deleted) is in LEO hands. Everyone who ordered from him could be in potential danger if he did not delete the personal information. !!
So many things wrong with your assumption here. That LE would cut the sentence of a dealer in exchange for information on personal users would be the most obvious one. Relax
I think he might be right. LE has always done that...? They're like notorious for that and "turning people into snitches."
No, they don't turn dealers into snitches in the hope of nabbing their customers. I would usually say you have been watching too much telly, but even crime shows aren't silly enough to suggest that.
There was no indication in court that the police were interested in his customers.
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i'd only be worried if i made big orders from him. and even if they got your info, if you're not from australia.. that info can't be used on you unless they contact non-austrlalian governments.
Shadh1 never sold anything bigger than a quarter of an ounce on SR and only sold to buyers in Australia, not overseas. He may have snitched on how he operated his vending account on SR to mitigate his sentence but what would this novice have told the Police that they wouldn't have already known? There is little doubt that LE would have opened a vending account at some stage on SR to learn more about things. Some may remember how DownUnderDan's account was supposedly taken over by LE after some peculiar occurrences began to take place. This bloke wouldn't have divulged much, if any to the Police IMO. I would be more concerned with the issue of buyer's addresses being kept, even those in PGP seeing as he displayed his Private key on his vendors homepage which no doubt, the Police noted.
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he got that low sentence because he snitched on everyone he could. people who ordered from him are not safe. Every order that was processing (address still not deleted) is in LEO hands. Everyone who ordered from him could be in potential danger if he did not delete the personal information. !!
So many things wrong with your assumption here. That LE would cut the sentence of a dealer in exchange for information on personal users would be the most obvious one. Relax
I think he might be right. LE has always done that...? They're like notorious for that and "turning people into snitches."
No, they don't turn dealers into snitches in the hope of nabbing their customers. I would usually say you have been watching too much telly, but even crime shows aren't silly enough to suggest that.
There was no indication in court that the police were interested in his customers.
Actually, yeah, I may have misspoken. I forgot in this case he was the dealer. But LE will definitely go from customer to seller.
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he got that low sentence because he snitched on everyone he could. people who ordered from him are not safe. Every order that was processing (address still not deleted) is in LEO hands. Everyone who ordered from him could be in potential danger if he did not delete the personal information. !!
So many things wrong with your assumption here. That LE would cut the sentence of a dealer in exchange for information on personal users would be the most obvious one. Relax
I think he might be right. LE has always done that...? They're like notorious for that and "turning people into snitches."
No, they don't turn dealers into snitches in the hope of nabbing their customers. I would usually say you have been watching too much telly, but even crime shows aren't silly enough to suggest that.
There was no indication in court that the police were interested in his customers.
Actually, yeah, I may have misspoken. I forgot in this case he was the dealer. But LE will definitely go from customer to seller.
The judge asked the prosecutor if he had given up any of his sellers and she responded that he was unable to because he didn't know who they were. "It's all anonymous" she said. There didn't seem to be a whole lot of understanding about Tor or Silk Road in the court.
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he got that low sentence because he snitched on everyone he could. people who ordered from him are not safe. Every order that was processing (address still not deleted) is in LEO hands. Everyone who ordered from him could be in potential danger if he did not delete the personal information. !!
So many things wrong with your assumption here. That LE would cut the sentence of a dealer in exchange for information on personal users would be the most obvious one. Relax
I think he might be right. LE has always done that...? They're like notorious for that and "turning people into snitches."
No, they don't turn dealers into snitches in the hope of nabbing their customers. I would usually say you have been watching too much telly, but even crime shows aren't silly enough to suggest that.
There was no indication in court that the police were interested in his customers.
Actually, yeah, I may have misspoken. I forgot in this case he was the dealer. But LE will definitely go from customer to seller.
The judge asked the prosecutor if he had given up any of his sellers and she responded that he was unable to because he didn't know who they were. "It's all anonymous" she said. There didn't seem to be a whole lot of understanding about Tor or Silk Road in the court.
I don't get why you quoted me. Unless you thought I meant they always go from customer to seller in SR busts (the few there's been). I just meant in general. Like IRL, you know?
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Man, he is extremely lucky to only get 3.5 years worth of time.
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Man, he is extremely lucky to only get 3.5 years worth of time.
Ever been in prison? I thought not.
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There was no indication in court that the police were interested in his customers.
Of course. They don't talk openly about active investigations.
I don't think LE will raid people who were ordering personal amounts, but they will absolutely keep those people's information. LE loves collecting intel. Anyone who ordered from shadh1 should consider the shipping locations they gave him to be unsafe.
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As much as I hate the hypocritical laws about drugs, the guy was pretty stupid and was a dealer waiting to get busted.
He might as well had saved some police time and taxpayers' money and handed himself in when he placed his first order.
Take a read of http://allthingsvice.com/2013/02/06/shadh1-penalised-for-not-propping-up-aussie-organised-crime/ [clearnet]
I love how LE are giving themselves a big propaganda pat on the back.
"This shows that we can take people down who order drugs over the internet"
No this shows that there are stupid people out there, and you are still behind the curve when it come to technology.
There is difference between evidence and proof. Minimise the evidence then the proof of higher crime can't be obtained.
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take read of http://allthingsvice.com/2013/02/06/shadh1-penalised-for-not-propping-up-aussie-organised-crime/
He created a vendor account on the most famous online black market in the world, choosing an unusual username – the only other place it could be found was on his BMW’s numberplate.
Jesus fucking Christ.
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take read of http://allthingsvice.com/2013/02/06/shadh1-penalised-for-not-propping-up-aussie-organised-crime/
He created a vendor account on the most famous online black market in the world, choosing an unusual username – the only other place it could be found was on his BMW’s numberplate.
Jesus fucking Christ.
I know, not the sharpest tool in the box.
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poor guy, probably didnt even make enough money for his lawyer
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poor guy, probably didnt even make enough money for his lawyer
much less enough money to need a money-counting machine
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Lets see; he put his vendor name on his license plate of a BMW he couldn't normally afford and drove around in it, he kept on using the same phone with all kinds of incriminating texts on it(instead of a burn phone), he had all his shit at his house, he kept on getting packages from overseas even after several seizures, What didn't he do wrong? Then he tells the cops on top of everything, Thats just crazy. I think he was dipping into his own supply a little too much. With everything they got him on and 3.5 yrs? Naw, he didn't make any deals(yeah, right)
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Man, he is extremely lucky to only get 3.5 years worth of time.
Ever been in prison? I thought not.
Lol, silly guy.
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Deserved it. Don't even know how he managed to get onto tor or acquire bitcoin. Who the fuck uses there number plate for the SR Vendor account name?
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An expensive but better result would have been achieved with a QC. With no priors etc you should walk on nearly anything with no victim pushing a barrow. Its a sad but true story, different address would have been a completely different outcome