Silk Road forums
Discussion => Newbie discussion => Topic started by: drjaycsmith on January 27, 2013, 12:27 am
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If you're reading this, you've at least figured out how to install/use a Tor browser (download available at https://www.torproject.org/projects/torbrowser.html.en) and have acquired the Silk Road URL (http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion).
If you're interested in learning more about Tor and similar browsers, go to:
-- https://anonymous-proxy-servers.net/en/help/index.html
-- https://www.torproject.org/index.html.en
Remember never to use your Tor browser to go to sites you normally do--and NEVER log in to services that you use, such as Facebook. Use Tor strictly for underground stuff.
*** Test the anonymity of your browser by going to http://ip-check.info/?lang=en ***
The most important things to do while getting started are to read/remember the following:
-- Read The Dread Pirate Roberts' introduction message (http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion//silkroad/about)
-- Read the buyer's guide (http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/buyers_guide)
-- Remain anonymous. Do not share any personal information, details, locations, etc. with anyone. Use a strong password that is different than your regular password for legitimate sites. When you place an order, you are running a risk and it is possible that the person on the other end is law enforcement. No system is full proof, but SR has a good track record. Just be careful and only share the secrets of Silk Road with trusted friends who would use it responsibly. If you're concerned that you might ever be visited by LE or have your home searched, it's a good idea to store all damning digitial evidence (programs, keys, passwords, etc.) on a micro SD card, which can be hidden anywhere with little chance of it being found.
--Use the forums (http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion). Reading will answer your questions, posting will share your knowledge with others, and doing both will build this community into something that we can all be proud of. Most of us already are. While you're trying to build up your 50 posts to get your Jr. Member status, why not try to answer as many questions as possible and make some new friends? Spamming is the whole reason for that dumb rule in the first place. The 50-post rule separates serious users from yahoos and 'bots, even if it is a pain in the ass. I made my first couple of posts before the new rule came down; and while it sucks being sent back to the minor leagues, as it were, I understand the reason for the policy.
Right. And that's what I intend to do with this thread--answer some questions and share what I know. I discovered Silk Road by accident less than two weeks ago. I spent an evening on Google, teaching myself all about Tor browsers, bitcoins, PGP, and everything else. It takes some doing, but it is worth it.
Here are a couple of pretty good technical articles about Silk Road, both of which were instrumental in me getting here:
-- http://www.gwern.net/Silk%20Road.
-- http://dailyanarchist.com/2011/06/21/how-and-why-to-get-to-silk-road/
So, read buyers' feedback, the forums, encrypt your address, and don't finalize early (FE). Some legitimate vendors require customers to FE--especially new customers or when shipping to another country--but you should have no trouble finding awesome vendors who DO NOT REQUIRE THIS. (I recommend only ordering from domestic vendors, as your package will not by scrutinized by Customs. While most international orders go through fine, why risk it if you don't have to?) There are lots of choices on SR, so shop around for a vendor you're comfortable with. I personally would rather give my business to a vendor who respects the escrow system--and if he's a top seller who has great feedback or I've done business with him in the past, I might decide to FE as a favor. The only time you should FE is if you are doing it specifically to reward a vendor for excellent service.
FINDING A GOOD DEAL FROM A REPUTABLE VENDOR:
First of all, locate the product that you want to buy and your options should be arranged by bestseller in descending order. Compare the prices and when you see something that looks promising, click on the product link and read ALL of the information there, especially the feedback at the bottom. When it comes to feedback, read a few pages. Next, click on the seller's name to go to his/her page, where you can read more about them and note their stats. Look at several vendors and compare prices/feedback before placing an order. Some vendors charge more, but it's because they have a better product, faster shipping, better stealth, etc. Decide what you're willing to pay and if extra $ is worth it. Now you should head over to the forums and find a thread on the product you're interested in or on a specific vendor. This is where you will get your most detailed information. If you can't find what you're looking for, post a new topic and ask. It is also worth mentioning that new vendors often post awesome deals to bring in new customers and establish themselves. Take advantage of the deals by placing a small order as a test, that way you won't be risking much. Do this a couple of times and wait for stats to build ... but don't wait too long to place a larger order or you will miss the sale price.
OBTAINING AND TRANSFERRING BITCOINS:
A common problem seems to be finding an easy way to get bitcoins. At first, this can seem like a daunting task--it isn't. Use the following instructions if you're in the USA and you won't be scammed.
-- To start, open a throwaway account with Mt. Gox at https://mtgox.com/. No need to verify this account or use your real info unless you're gonna be trading big money.
-- Go to "funding options/add funds"
-- Use the drop-down menu to select "BitInstant," which will give you instructions and your account number.
-- Go to BitInstant at https://www.bitinstant.com/
-- The reason you need a Mt. Gox account is that BitInstant doesn't sell bitcoins; you must trade for them at Mt. Gox. BitInstant allows you to immediately fund your Mt. Gox account so you can start trading.
-- In BitInstant, use the drop-down menu to select "cash deposit" and choose a local retailer, such as Wal-Mart or CVS.
-- Fill in your info and you will download a .pdf file with information for filling out a blue MoneyGram slip at Wal-Mart. Basically, you're "paying a bill" to ZipZap, Inc. and you will be entering their four-digit receive code and account number on the form. Use a bogus name, address, telephone number, etc. on the MoneyGram. It doesn't matter much anyway, since everything will be laundered and untraceable by the time it gets to Silk Road. You won't have to show ID when sending the MoneyGram. Use fake info for your Mt. Gox account, although I don't think that matters either.
-- Go to your local retailer, fill out the MoneyGram with the info provided from BitInstant, and pay for it with cash. There is a $3.95 fee plus they deduct 3.99%.
-- You money will appear in your Mt. Gox account within 4 minutes--1 hour at the most (never takes that long).
-- While logged into your Mt. Gox account, use the "trade" button to buy bitcoins.
-- Go to "funding options/withdraw" and use the drop-down menu to select "bitcoins" as your currency. Enter the amount and bitcoin address from Silk Road (find that on your SR account page--looks like this: 1GDGgeTfNrxdhmJokSP7EqVRZGXSFuSnfp)
-- If you have 5.67 bitcoins with Mt. Gox, transfer 5.66 to cover the transaction fee. Select the option for faster transfer (0.005 BTC).
-- It may take several hours for your bitcoins to show up, but they will. Once they are in your SR wallet, you're ready to order.
I hope this helps. This is the fastest, most reliable way that I've found to get bitcoins. If you bank with a major financial institution, you also have the option of transferring funds directly to BitInstant. While this doesn't involve leaving the house and taking out cash, I'm not sure if it's any slower than using a MoneyGram. One drawback to this method is that you have to provide BitInstant with your banking username and password (scary!) BitInstant is reputable, but that is just information that I don't want to release. There are many other options, but this one works and it is the one I've been using.
*** Avoid OnionWallet--it is a SCAM ***
MORE ABOUT BITCOINS:
Looking to buy & sell bitcoins? There's lots of options.
-- https://bitinstant.com/ -- Buy bitcoins, lots of options including MoneyGram. Fund Mt. Gox & other exchanges. Now requires verification.
-- http://tradebitcoin.com/ -- Buy bitcoins with cash, in person, locally. Best for remaining anonymous.
-- https://localbitcoins.com/ -- Buy bitcoins with cash, in person, locally. Best for remaining anonymous.
-- https://coinbase.com/ -- Link your bank account and buy bitcoins online. Instant transfers after 30 days & full verification.
-- https://www.nanaimogold.com/ -- Similar to BitInstant. Use MoneyGram & Western Union to fund account.
-- https://mtgox.com/ -- Currency exchange, eWallet. Not compatible with Tor, requires verification.
-- https://virwox.com/ -- Currency exchange, eWallet. Lots of options for funding account (buying BTC).
BitInstant & Mt. Gox are becoming more transparent; you must now verify your identity to use their services. Frankly, this changes nothing--the idea that you were ever "anonymous" on these clearnet-only sites was a flimsy one at best. Trading bitcoins is perfectly legal--and believe it or not, crypto currencies such as BTC can be used for more than just buying drugs on Silk Road.
No matter what you do, you lose some or all of your anonymity when buying coins; therefore, you should "launder" them.
Here are some Tor-compatible sites to route your coins through before depositing them at Silk Road, which itself acts as a tumbler:
-- https://blockchain.info/ -- Anonymous eWallet. Access only with Tor to remain anonymous.
-- https://easywallet.org/ -- Anonymous eWallet. Access only with Tor to remain anonymous.
-- http://www.bitcoinfog.com/ -- Launders bitcoins. Access only with Tor to remain anonymous.
BitInstant, with or without Mt. Gox, is a breeze. Just send a MoneyGram from Wal-Mart or another retailer. You can also link your bank account. Unfortunately, the site is temporarily down as they make some improvements.
https://localbitcoins.com/ is perhaps the easiest method for obtaining bitcoins. Find someone near you, meet them, pay cash for BTC. I've used this option and it was fast and hassle-free. The transaction is more-or-less anonymous, depending on how you handle it.
After purchasing your bitcoins through BitInstant or wherever, you might send them through Bitcoin Fog. Personally, I never have; others give the service a mixed review. Either way, the next step is to transfer your bitcoins to BlockChain and then EasyWallet; from there, send them to Silk Road. Use at least 2 - 3 anonymous, torified wallets before Silk Road; also, don't forget to get a new SR bitcoin address before/after every transaction, withdrawal, deposit, etc. You should be changing it constantly, even though SR launders coins with its own tumbler. Chances are slim that anyone would be paying attention, but why take a chance?
USING PGP TO ENCRYPT MESSAGES AND YOUR ADDRESS:
*** Use GPG4USB for best results/security. Download it at http://gpg4usb.cpunk.de/download.html. ***
For a tutorial, use your Tor browser to go to http://32yehzkk7jflf6r2.onion/gpg4usb/.
You'll need an anonymous email address. Use your Tor browser to go to http://jhiwjjlqpyawmpjx.onion/. After signing up, use this new email address to generate a new key pair (public & private) for yourself. You give your public key to other people and they use that to encrypt messages to you. Never give out your private key or password--and make sure you use a STRONG password. Set your key to the max--4096 bits.
Using PGP to encrypt your mailing address is not strictly necessary, but it adds an extra layer of security to your transaction and many vendors request/require it. I've found that Portable PGP (download available at http://ppgp.sourceforge.net/) has a very nice interface and is easy to use; however, it is Java-based Bouncy Castle software and lacks security.
Other PGP downloads:
-- http://www.pgpi.org/download/
-- http://www.gnupg.org/download/index.en.html
A few good places to learn about how to use PGP are:
-- http://www.gnupg.org/documentation/manuals.en.html
-- http://www.gnupg.org/gph/en/manual.html
-- https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GnuPrivacyGuardHowto
To download and install Portable PGP, visit http://ppgp.sourceforge.net/. Once you've installed the program, to use Portable PGP, copy the vendor's public key into a .txt file and save it. When you open the program, you can import contacts from .txt files on your computer. Once a vendor's address has been added to your keyring, you can direct a specific message (such as your mailing address) to him/her. There is an "encrypt" tab, which provides you with a blank text box. Write your address or message, select your recipient(s), click "encrypt," and it will open a separate window with your PGP message. Copy this string of gibberish into the SR mailing form.
CONCLUSION:
Okay, that's it for now. I think that I've covered the basics here and provided some good references; and while I'm no expert, I'm happy to help by sharing what I know. Hopefully I haven't forgotten anything important, but I will update if something occurs to me. Let me know if you have questions or suggestions for doing things better.
--Dr. Jay A.K.A. The Prince of Darkness
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Most excellent!
Respectful suggestion: To the PGP section, add "Do not use your real name and/or email in your PGP key unless you want to make these available to law enforcement, post them in public, and visibly attach them to yourself."
That usually isn't in the instructions.
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Most excellent!
Respectful suggestion: To the PGP section, add "Do not use your real name and/or email in your PGP key unless you want to make these available to law enforcement, post them in public, and visibly attach them to yourself."
That usually isn't in the instructions.
Thank you. And yes, that is an important detail that should not be overlooked. I haven't bothered posting a public key, but it's something that I'm planning on doing. Since I'm so new to all of this, I've mainly been concerned with getting orders placed successfully; but now, I'm interested in joining the community and seeing where all of this can go. My key is actually tied to a throwaway Hotmail account ... and for my next trick, I'm going to learn how to get a Tormail address for added security. I haven't looked into this yet, but I imagine it can't be too hard.
Perhaps you can tell me?
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*** UPDATE ***
Dr. Jay C. Smith
Username: drjaycsmith
SR SMF Profile:
http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?action=profile;u=50249
Send message on Silk Road:
http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/messages/send_message/be92efd9f1
Email:
doctorjaycsmith@tormail.org
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Well ... that was easy. I signed up for a Tormail account and generated a new public key for that address:
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Wonder if it works. I haven't experimented yet with decrypting messages. Can you send me something as a test?
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But of course. :)
Go to:
http://jhiwjjlqpyawmpjx.onion/signup.php
When you use the web interface, go through SquirrelMail, which does not require JavaScript.
All email should be encrypted as who knows what/who is running Tormail.
LOL, you beat me to the reply.
:D
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But of course. :)
Go to:
http://jhiwjjlqpyawmpjx.onion/signup.php
When you use the web interface, go through SquirrelMail, which does not require JavaScript.
All email should be encrypted as who knows what/who is running Tormail.
LOL, you beat me to the reply.
:D
I gotta say that I'm loving Silk Road. Not only can you buy drugs here, but the entire process is a learning experience and the community is great. When it comes to computers, I love acquiring knowledge and figuring out how to make the machine do what I want. While I don't consider myself a hacker, I can say that I enjoy hacking projects such as these. Two weeks ago, I had no idea that there was a whole other side of the Internet, which is another thing that I'm going to begin exploring. Silk Road is the only Tor site I've been to, so I'm curious to see what else is out there. This whole site is a perfect, shining example of why drugs should be legal and law enforcement resources should be used to apprehend violent criminals and thieves rather than chase after average people who just happen to enjoy getting high.
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Wow, thanks for the info! I just joined yesterday. Answered a lot of my questions haha.
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Wow, thanks for the info! I just joined yesterday. Answered a lot of my questions haha.
I'm glad that you found this information useful. Let me know if you have any specific questions and I'll try to answer them, even though I too am a novice when it comes to all of this. I just feel like I've got the Silk Road basics down after making three purchases--and I know that there are many people out there struggling to place their first order. Cheers!
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when i open a account at mt gox should i use tor or internet explore 8
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when i open a account at mt gox should i use tor or internet explore 8
Use your regular Internet browser for visiting Mt. Gox and BitInstant ... although I would recommend downloading Google Chrome or Mozilla Firefox or Safari or Opera or just about anything other than Explorer. How can you stand it?
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after reading the light bulb above my head turned on
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Stop downloading whatever it is that's been taking forever and get on over to Mt. Gox and BitInstant. If you have money, and if your local retailers are still open, you can go send a MoneyGram right now, buy some bitcoins, and transfer them to your Silk Road account. You're ready to order and you don't even know it. Just follow the steps that I posted above and you'll be fine.
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too much snow been buried in it thanks for your help hope to chat again
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too much snow been buried in it thanks for your help hope to chat again
No problem. I'm glad to help. At least you know what you're doing now--and that there is no need to spend hours downloading some goofy bitcoin wallet. Let me know if you run into any more issues and I'll try to walk you through them if I can.
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This is all such great info, especially for a noob like myself.
Incoming idiot questions below:
If anyone can help. I'm trying to get PGP set up on my Mac...and it seems to work so far as encrypting goes, but not as far as decrypting.
I get these errors: Decrypt failed: (no secret key) Code = 17 or 0
and: Sending Key failed!
Code = 0
I am getting really confused and sad :( I've read and re-read pages and pages of information and just can't seem to get it to work :(
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This is all such great info, especially for a noob like myself.
Incoming idiot questions below:
If anyone can help. I'm trying to get PGP set up on my Mac...and it seems to work so far as encrypting goes, but not as far as decrypting.
I get these errors: Decrypt failed: (no secret key) Code = 17 or 0
and: Sending Key failed!
Code = 0
I am getting really confused and sad :( I've read and re-read pages and pages of information and just can't seem to get it to work :(
Unfortunately, I'm not familiar with the Mac OS, although the program should work the same. Also, I haven't spent any time yet experimenting with decryption; in fact, last night I finally signed up for a Tormail account and generated a public key ... and another user tested it and said that it didn't work. If I find anything out, I'll let you know. Have you read the PGP manuals?
Go to:
-- http://www.gnupg.org/documentation/manuals.en.html
-- http://www.gnupg.org/gph/en/manual.html
-- https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GnuPrivacyGuardHowto
Sorry I can't be of more help, but maybe someone else out there has the answer.
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This is all such great info, especially for a noob like myself.
Incoming idiot questions below:
If anyone can help. I'm trying to get PGP set up on my Mac...and it seems to work so far as encrypting goes, but not as far as decrypting.
I get these errors: Decrypt failed: (no secret key) Code = 17 or 0
and: Sending Key failed!
Code = 0
I am getting really confused and sad :( I've read and re-read pages and pages of information and just can't seem to get it to work :(
Unfortunately, I'm not familiar with the Mac OS, although the program should work the same. Also, I haven't spent any time yet experimenting with decryption; in fact, last night I finally signed up for a Tormail account and generated a public key ... and another user tested it and said that it didn't work. If I find anything out, I'll let you know. Have you read the PGP manuals?
Go to:
-- http://www.gnupg.org/documentation/manuals.en.html
-- http://www.gnupg.org/gph/en/manual.html
-- https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GnuPrivacyGuardHowto
Sorry I can't be of more help, but maybe someone else out there has the answer.
This is a tutorial written by former member Guru that could possibly help you. :) :)
This is a known issue with the standard build. What you want to do is install the latest nightly build, per the following instructions (originally written by Guru)
GPGTools is highly version dependent -- depending on which version of OS X
you have, it may or may not work as expected. If you have Leopard (10.5)
then you're pretty much out of luck. Your only option then will be using
the command-line.
If you have Snow Leopard (10.6), Lion (10.7) or Mountain Lion (10.8), the
following instructions should be sufficient to allow you to get up and
running.
Download and install GPGTools: http://nightly.gpgtools.org/GPGTools_Installer-trunk.dmg
Once you have installed GPGTools, what you want to do is to go into
System Preferences --> Keyboard --> Services.
Scroll down until you find the following entries. Be sure to put a check
mark in the boxes to activate each keyboard shortcut.
Keyboard shortcuts:
OpenPGP: Decrypt Selection: Shift-Command-D
OpenPGP: Encrypt Selection: Shift-Command-E
OpenPGP: Import Key from Selection: Shift-Command-I
OpenPGP: Insert My Fingerprint: Shift-Command-F
OpenPGP: Insert My Key: Shift-Command-K
OpenPGP: Sign Selection: Shift-Command-R
OpenPGP: Verify Signature of Selection: Shift-Control-V
Remember, these shortcuts only operate on highlighted or selected text.
N.B.: To properly be able to import PGP into GPGChain (via TextEdit) you
need to change the default on TextEdit from .rtf to plain text. You can do
that through the Format menu, or you can go through the main configuration
menu, accessible by using Command-comma. Ensure the plain text radio button
is selected.
Also ensure that the following are UNCHECKED in TextEdit preferences:
smart quotes, smart dashes, smart links.
To select text within TextEdit, use Command-A to highlight the entire
document, or use your mouse to selection the section that you want to
verify/sign/encrypt/decrypt. It is highly recommended that you use only
plain-text, as opposed to Rich Text (.rtf) format. Use Command-comma to
bring up Preferences and ensure that the plain text radio button is
checked.
Once your text is highlighted in TextEdit, (by pressing Comand-A) you then
encrypt using Shift-Command-E. You will then be presented with a list of
keys to encrypt to, that you have added to your PGP keyring:
Other Commands You May Need:
============================
OpenPGP: Decrypt File: Control-Command-D
OpenPGP: Encrypt File: Control-Command-E
OpenPGP: Sign File: Control-Command-S
OpenPGP: Verify Signature of File: Control-Command-V
Once you have setup these shortcuts, you can begin using GPG.
To encrypt a message to someone using GPG, you first need a copy of the
recipient's PGP public key.
Once you have located someone's PGP public key, you should copy and paste
it into TextEdit. Save the PGP key to a file; you can call the file,
import.asc (or import.txt), for example. This saved file will usually be
found in the Documents folder.
Launch GPG Keychain Access from the Applications folder. click on the
Import icon in the upper left hand corner. GPG Keychain Access will then
prompt you for the name of the file which contains the key to import. It
will usually show you a list of files in the Documents folder. Click on the
file named import.asc (or import.txt), and click ok. The PGP public key
will then be imported into your PGP keyring.
To encrypt a message to a person, the message must be contained in a
TextEdit document. Use Command-A to hightlight the entire document. Then
use Shift-Command-E to encrypt. GPG will pop-up a list of public keys in
your PGP keyring. Each key will have a little checkbox beside it which you
can check, to select that particular key. If you were encrypting a message
to me, you would put a check in the box beside my PGP key (Guru@SR).
When you click on OK, the plaintext (unencrypted) message in TextEdit will
be replaced with the encrypted message. You can then copy and paste the
encrypted message to enter it into a form on Silk Road, or anywhere else
that it needs to go.
To decrypt a message sent to you by other people, you need to copy that
message to the clipboard, and paste it into a TextEdit document. Again use
Command-A to highlight all the encrypted message. Then use Shift-Command-D
to decrypt the message. If the message is encrypted to your PGP public key,
you will be prompted to enter your passphrase. Once the correct passphrase
has been entered, and you click OK, then the message will be decrypted,
and the decrypted text will be placed in the TextEdit document, replacing
the encrypted message that was there previously.
Guru
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Thank you for the detailed info, Wadozo. It's nice to see you make it to this section of the forums.
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Hey thanks Wadozo! Next step is figuring out Bitcoins...does anyone know if CanadaBitcoins is reputable? I've been reading on here about all the scams, and if anyone could provide a first hand endorsement that would be greatly appreciated.
Also, do I HAVE to use Mt. Gox? I downloaded a wallet program onto my computer, does that work?
Thanks again everyone for all of the help!
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Thanks a ton for filling in the gaps on the whole bitcoin process. I've been dreading the thought of using Sugarmama's services. While she is reliable and reputable, the fees she charges are just unsettling for me.
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Hey thanks Wadozo! Next step is figuring out Bitcoins...does anyone know if CanadaBitcoins is reputable? I've been reading on here about all the scams, and if anyone could provide a first hand endorsement that would be greatly appreciated.
Also, do I HAVE to use Mt. Gox? I downloaded a wallet program onto my computer, does that work?
Thanks again everyone for all of the help!
I don't know anything about CanadaBitcoins, so I can't help you there. As for Mt. Gox, you don't HAVE to use it--there are a number of exchanges to choose from (for a list, go to https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Trade#Currency_exchanges)--but it is the most popular and is set up to work with BitInstant. You don't need the wallet program that you downloaded. Buy bitcoins on Mt. Gox and then send them directly to your SR wallet.
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nice post, thanks for sharing
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@drjaycsmith
Don't need the wallet? Ok, I'll give Mt. Gox a try. As long as it works in my regions is all I really care about.
Thanks again for all the help!
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Sorry drjaycsmith, but that is actually bad advice. You should never transfer coins directly to your SR E-Wallet just in case the site is ever taken down by LE or Hackers. If that happens, there would be a good chance your coins would disappear forever. You need to download a Bitcoin Client, either a Web based one or a Desktop one, and transfer your coins from where you buy them to this wallet. A good one to use is Electrum - http://electrum.org/
Once you have this downloaded and installed, transfer your coins to one of the generated Bitcoin addresses. Then when your ready to make a purchase on SR, transfer the required amount of coins from your Client to your SR wallet containing your Bitcoin address. Always send a little more coin over in case of a price rise so you don't end up short when your ready to order. After every purchase you make on SR, request a new Bitcoin address. Using the same address more than once could potentially link you to more than one transaction should something ever happen to you. It's all about minimizing your risks, just in case something does go wrong.
Here is a link to a Bitcoin Exchange in Australia that has a detailed explanation on the different Bitcoin Clients available to be used. It outlines the pro's and con's of each one so you can make an informed decision.
This is a clearnet link - https://bitinnovate.com/need-a-wallet/
:) :)
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No worries at all drjaycsmith and GuyLeDouche. A lot of established members of the Forum wanted to post here in the Newbie section, but we weren't allow to as the Admins had set it up so only Mod's and Newbie's were able to. Seems DPR has now changed that policy which is a good thing for all concerned. If anyone needs help with something, just drop me a line and I'll do my best. :)
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@Wadozo
Thanks for heads up! I nearly deleted my client (Mac) it's called Bitcoin-Qt, is that one any good?
CanadaBitcoin says it deposits directly to your wallet, does that mean it'll show up in my Bitcoin-Qt as soon as the transaction is done?
When you say address do you mean the wallet address?
So much to learn! Thanks so much!
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@Wadozo
Thanks for heads up! I nearly deleted my client (Mac) it's called Bitcoin-Qt, is that one any good?
CanadaBitcoin says it deposits directly to your wallet, does that mean it'll show up in my Bitcoin-Qt as soon as the transaction is done?
When you say address do you mean the wallet address?
So much to learn! Thanks so much!
Bitcoin - Qt is fine but be aware that you will initially need to download the full transaction history before your Bitcoins will show in your Bitcoin Wallet. This could take approx. 12 hrs+ to do.
I would start uo Bitcoin-Qt now and get the download started. I would wait until the history is downloaded before buying some coins. Once the download is complete and you buy some coins, the time it takes to show up in your account is controlled by a number of variables but generally it takes a couple of hours for the network to confirm your transaction.
Desktop Clients store a collection of keys on your computer (or wallet address). These keys allow you to send and receive bitcoins through the Bitcoin network. Nobody has access to these keys except yourself, and they must be kept secure. We always recommend creating a backup of you wallet as if this file gets corrupted or accidentally deleted your bitcoins will be lost for good.
I was referring to your Bitcoin address/s, contained in your Bitcoin Wallet. They look like this - 17XrAZGKJqXTPkZiTH8KWCvdnHCmBA2bg. This is the address (not this one but one contained in your wallet) you give to CanadianBitcoins to transfer the coins you purchased to.
Hope that helps. :)
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appreciate the info!
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So im a newb heree. nd this is what i learned from a guy on here..
Use bitinstand and then use a hushmail mail address and send them to blockchain and store them there.. was so fast and easy and very low % fee!
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Good thread 8)
After reading, I think I'm finally going to try to order this week. Also earlier in the thread someone mentioned a PGP program that wouldn"t work with osx 10.5, anyone know of a good PGP service that works with leopard?
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Good thread 8)
After reading, I think I'm finally going to try to order this week. Also earlier in the thread someone mentioned a PGP program that wouldn"t work with osx 10.5, anyone know of a good PGP service that works with leopard?
go to grgtools.org i belive when i was reading ther site it had it todayGood thread 8)
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Word, thanks for the info. I got it installed and am learning how to use it right now
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Use bitinstand and then use a hushmail mail address
>>>No Hushmail.<<<
Unless you like having your information handed over to the police.
Go up to Startpage or whatever search engine you have in your Tor browser, search for "Hushmail law enforcement" and take a few minutes to read up on it.
Take the short amount of time to learn PGP. There are two phenomenally helpful tutorials that you can easily find on this site using the search engine, one for GPG4USB, one for OS X. There are total strangers who will help you practice for no particular reason beyond altruism and spreading the cause.
No Hushmail, no Privnote. Those are like... trying to pass notes in class by handing the notes to the teacher and asking her to give them to Susie for you. Not a good idea when the teacher can make you do federal time.
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Use bitinstand and then use a hushmail mail address
>>>No Hushmail.<<<
Unless you like having your information handed over to the police.
Go up to Startpage or whatever search engine you have in your Tor browser, search for "Hushmail law enforcement" and take a few minutes to read up on it.
Take the short amount of time to learn PGP. There are two phenomenally helpful tutorials that you can easily find on this site using the search engine, one for GPG4USB, one for OS X. There are total strangers who will help you practice for no particular reason beyond altruism and spreading the cause.
No Hushmail, no Privnote. Those are like... trying to pass notes in class by handing the notes to the teacher and asking her to give them to Susie for you. Not a good idea when the teacher can make you do federal time.
so do we use our tormail email then? now im clue less on what to use..
Word, thanks for the info. I got it installed and am learning how to use it right now
watch these 2 vids will help alot!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHEWVIynQ8Q
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rt4MFkbr6co&feature=player_embedded
and you need to change the txt when you open textedit to use the PGP codes. click texedit tab gthen go to preference and it will say plain txt. and before you set the key up you need to check the boxs as they show you when you finish PM me i havnt tried sending a message yet im still clue less on that part
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Use bitinstand and then use a hushmail mail address
>>>No Hushmail.<<<
Unless you like having your information handed over to the police.
Go up to Startpage or whatever search engine you have in your Tor browser, search for "Hushmail law enforcement" and take a few minutes to read up on it.
Take the short amount of time to learn PGP. There are two phenomenally helpful tutorials that you can easily find on this site using the search engine, one for GPG4USB, one for OS X. There are total strangers who will help you practice for no particular reason beyond altruism and spreading the cause.
No Hushmail, no Privnote. Those are like... trying to pass notes in class by handing the notes to the teacher and asking her to give them to Susie for you. Not a good idea when the teacher can make you do federal time.
As Iris wrote, NO Hushmail and NO Privnote (requires Javascript to be enabled and therefore could potentially be exploited). Hushmail was used by The Farmer's Market, and we all know what transpired there. :(
http://gpg4usb.cpunk.de/download.html - Download Gpg4usb from here.
http://32yehzkk7jflf6r2.onion/gpg4usb/ - astor's simple tutorial on using the software. :) :)
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Good thread 8)
After reading, I think I'm finally going to try to order this week. Also earlier in the thread someone mentioned a PGP program that wouldn"t work with osx 10.5, anyone know of a good PGP service that works with leopard?
Here is a tutorial from an old member, Guru (we miss you mate!), which should help you.
This is a known issue with the standard build. What you want to do is install the latest nightly build, per the following instructions (originally written by Guru)
GPGTools is highly version dependent -- depending on which version of OS X
you have, it may or may not work as expected. If you have Leopard (10.5)
then you're pretty much out of luck. Your only option then will be using
the command-line.
If you have Snow Leopard (10.6), Lion (10.7) or Mountain Lion (10.8), the
following instructions should be sufficient to allow you to get up and
running.
Download and install GPGTools: http://nightly.gpgtools.org/GPGTools_Installer-trunk.dmg
Once you have installed GPGTools, what you want to do is to go into
System Preferences --> Keyboard --> Services.
Scroll down until you find the following entries. Be sure to put a check
mark in the boxes to activate each keyboard shortcut.
Keyboard shortcuts:
OpenPGP: Decrypt Selection: Shift-Command-D
OpenPGP: Encrypt Selection: Shift-Command-E
OpenPGP: Import Key from Selection: Shift-Command-I
OpenPGP: Insert My Fingerprint: Shift-Command-F
OpenPGP: Insert My Key: Shift-Command-K
OpenPGP: Sign Selection: Shift-Command-R
OpenPGP: Verify Signature of Selection: Shift-Control-V
Remember, these shortcuts only operate on highlighted or selected text.
N.B.: To properly be able to import PGP into GPGChain (via TextEdit) you
need to change the default on TextEdit from .rtf to plain text. You can do
that through the Format menu, or you can go through the main configuration
menu, accessible by using Command-comma. Ensure the plain text radio button
is selected.
Also ensure that the following are UNCHECKED in TextEdit preferences:
smart quotes, smart dashes, smart links.
To select text within TextEdit, use Command-A to highlight the entire
document, or use your mouse to selection the section that you want to
verify/sign/encrypt/decrypt. It is highly recommended that you use only
plain-text, as opposed to Rich Text (.rtf) format. Use Command-comma to
bring up Preferences and ensure that the plain text radio button is
checked.
Once your text is highlighted in TextEdit, (by pressing Comand-A) you then
encrypt using Shift-Command-E. You will then be presented with a list of
keys to encrypt to, that you have added to your PGP keyring:
Other Commands You May Need:
============================
OpenPGP: Decrypt File: Control-Command-D
OpenPGP: Encrypt File: Control-Command-E
OpenPGP: Sign File: Control-Command-S
OpenPGP: Verify Signature of File: Control-Command-V
Once you have setup these shortcuts, you can begin using GPG.
To encrypt a message to someone using GPG, you first need a copy of the
recipient's PGP public key.
Once you have located someone's PGP public key, you should copy and paste
it into TextEdit. Save the PGP key to a file; you can call the file,
import.asc (or import.txt), for example. This saved file will usually be
found in the Documents folder.
Launch GPG Keychain Access from the Applications folder. click on the
Import icon in the upper left hand corner. GPG Keychain Access will then
prompt you for the name of the file which contains the key to import. It
will usually show you a list of files in the Documents folder. Click on the
file named import.asc (or import.txt), and click ok. The PGP public key
will then be imported into your PGP keyring.
To encrypt a message to a person, the message must be contained in a
TextEdit document. Use Command-A to hightlight the entire document. Then
use Shift-Command-E to encrypt. GPG will pop-up a list of public keys in
your PGP keyring. Each key will have a little checkbox beside it which you
can check, to select that particular key. If you were encrypting a message
to me, you would put a check in the box beside my PGP key (Guru@SR).
When you click on OK, the plaintext (unencrypted) message in TextEdit will
be replaced with the encrypted message. You can then copy and paste the
encrypted message to enter it into a form on Silk Road, or anywhere else
that it needs to go.
To decrypt a message sent to you by other people, you need to copy that
message to the clipboard, and paste it into a TextEdit document. Again use
Command-A to highlight all the encrypted message. Then use Shift-Command-D
to decrypt the message. If the message is encrypted to your PGP public key,
you will be prompted to enter your passphrase. Once the correct passphrase
has been entered, and you click OK, then the message will be decrypted,
and the decrypted text will be placed in the TextEdit document, replacing
the encrypted message that was there previously.
Guru
There are many other useful tutorials covering a range of subjects. Here is the link.-
https://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion.to/index.php?topic=38861.0 :) :)
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Use bitinstand and then use a hushmail mail address
>>>No Hushmail.<<<
Unless you like having your information handed over to the police.
Go up to Startpage or whatever search engine you have in your Tor browser, search for "Hushmail law enforcement" and take a few minutes to read up on it.
Take the short amount of time to learn PGP. There are two phenomenally helpful tutorials that you can easily find on this site using the search engine, one for GPG4USB, one for OS X. There are total strangers who will help you practice for no particular reason beyond altruism and spreading the cause.
No Hushmail, no Privnote. Those are like... trying to pass notes in class by handing the notes to the teacher and asking her to give them to Susie for you. Not a good idea when the teacher can make you do federal time.
As Iris wrote, NO Hushmail and NO Privnote (requires Javascript to be enabled and therefore could potentially be exploited). Hushmail was used by The Farmer's Market, and we all know what transpired there. :(
http://gpg4usb.cpunk.de/download.html - Download Gpg4usb from here.
http://32yehzkk7jflf6r2.onion/gpg4usb/ - astor's simple tutorial on using the software. :) :)
squirlmail? doesnt require Javascript would that be alright?
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can anyone see if i did this right? and when it asks you to sign do you check that box? thanks for the all help
-----BEGIN PGP MESSAGE-----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=DWJ+
-----END PGP MESSAGE-----
-----BEGIN PGP MESSAGE-----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=DWJ+
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Hey thekid,
Squirrel Mail - Doesn't use Javascript. Yes , your right.
Mate, no you don't need to sign a message. That's only needed if you want someone to be able to verify it is actually you sending the message
You've got 2 messages in your post, the bottom one is incomplete and won't work. Which Public Key did you use to Encrypt the top message because that is the only person who would be able to Decrypt it.
Can you also send me your Public Key?
Here is my Public Key so you can send another message to me.
-----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK-----
Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (MingW32)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Sorry drjaycsmith, but that is actually bad advice. You should never transfer coins directly to your SR E-Wallet just in case the site is ever taken down by LE or Hackers. If that happens, there would be a good chance your coins would disappear forever. You need to download a Bitcoin Client, either a Web based one or a Desktop one, and transfer your coins from where you buy them to this wallet. A good one to use is Electrum - http://electrum.org/
Once you have this downloaded and installed, transfer your coins to one of the generated Bitcoin addresses. Then when your ready to make a purchase on SR, transfer the required amount of coins from your Client to your SR wallet containing your Bitcoin address. Always send a little more coin over in case of a price rise so you don't end up short when your ready to order. After every purchase you make on SR, request a new Bitcoin address. Using the same address more than once could potentially link you to more than one transaction should something ever happen to you. It's all about minimizing your risks, just in case something does go wrong.
Here is a link to a Bitcoin Exchange in Australia that has a detailed explanation on the different Bitcoin Clients available to be used. It outlines the pro's and con's of each one so you can make an informed decision.
This is a clearnet link - https://bitinnovate.com/need-a-wallet/
:) :)
I see your point. I think I'll follow your advice and get Electrum as an added layer of security; however, I don't store anything in my SR wallet. When I'm ready to buy something, I transfer in the appropriate number of bitcoins and immediately place my order.
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Hey thekid,
Squirrel Mail - Doesn't use Javascript. Yes , your right.
Mate, no you don't need to sign a message. That's only needed if you want someone to be able to verify it is actually you sending the message
You've got 2 messages in your post, the bottom one is incomplete and won't work. Which Public Key did you use to Encrypt the top message because that is the only person who would be able to Decrypt it.
Can you also send me your Public Key?
Here is my Public Key so you can send another message to me.
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sweet i was stressing out someone told me not to use that email for bitcoin transfers. it wasnt safe to they look at them more or something i belive he said..
i have no idea where my pubic key is. i couldnt figure it out last night so i think i checked the one under my key..
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I see your point. I think I'll follow your advice and get Electrum as an added layer of security; however, I don't store anything in my SR wallet. When I'm ready to buy something, I transfer in the appropriate number of bitcoins and immediately place my order.
If that's what you do, then that's fine. Electrum isn't an extra layer of security, it's just a different model of a Bitcoin Client that could be used instead of one you might already have in place. :)
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Hey thekid,
Squirrel Mail - Doesn't use Javascript. Yes , your right.
Mate, no you don't need to sign a message. That's only needed if you want someone to be able to verify it is actually you sending the message
You've got 2 messages in your post, the bottom one is incomplete and won't work. Which Public Key did you use to Encrypt the top message because that is the only person who would be able to Decrypt it.
Can you also send me your Public Key?
Here is my Public Key so you can send another message to me.
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Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (MingW32)
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sweet i was stressing out someone told me not to use that email for bitcoin transfers. it wasnt safe to they look at them more or something i belive he said..
i have no idea where my pubic key is. i couldnt figure it out last night so i think i checked the one under my key..
The person who told you it wasn't safe to use that email address when buying Bitcoins forgot to mention to you that buying Bitcoins is perfectly LEGAL to do, no different to you buying Australian dollars if you were coming here for a holiday. :)
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@Wadozo
Thanks for heads up! I nearly deleted my client (Mac) it's called Bitcoin-Qt, is that one any good?
CanadaBitcoin says it deposits directly to your wallet, does that mean it'll show up in my Bitcoin-Qt as soon as the transaction is done?
When you say address do you mean the wallet address?
So much to learn! Thanks so much!
Bitcoin - Qt is fine but be aware that you will initially need to download the full transaction history before your Bitcoins will show in your Bitcoin Wallet. This could take approx. 12 hrs+ to do.
I would start uo Bitcoin-Qt now and get the download started. I would wait until the history is downloaded before buying some coins. Once the download is complete and you buy some coins, the time it takes to show up in your account is controlled by a number of variables but generally it takes a couple of hours for the network to confirm your transaction.
Desktop Clients store a collection of keys on your computer (or wallet address). These keys allow you to send and receive bitcoins through the Bitcoin network. Nobody has access to these keys except yourself, and they must be kept secure. We always recommend creating a backup of you wallet as if this file gets corrupted or accidentally deleted your bitcoins will be lost for good.
I was referring to your Bitcoin address/s, contained in your Bitcoin Wallet. They look like this - 17XrAZGKJqXTPkZiTH8KWCvdnHCmBA2bg. This is the address (not this one but one contained in your wallet) you give to CanadianBitcoins to transfer the coins you purchased to.
Hope that helps. :)
Man, thanks so much. That's exactly the info I needed. You guys rock.
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@Wadozo
Thanks for heads up! I nearly deleted my client (Mac) it's called Bitcoin-Qt, is that one any good?
CanadaBitcoin says it deposits directly to your wallet, does that mean it'll show up in my Bitcoin-Qt as soon as the transaction is done?
When you say address do you mean the wallet address?
So much to learn! Thanks so much!
Bitcoin - Qt is fine but be aware that you will initially need to download the full transaction history before your Bitcoins will show in your Bitcoin Wallet. This could take approx. 12 hrs+ to do.
I would start uo Bitcoin-Qt now and get the download started. I would wait until the history is downloaded before buying some coins. Once the download is complete and you buy some coins, the time it takes to show up in your account is controlled by a number of variables but generally it takes a couple of hours for the network to confirm your transaction.
Desktop Clients store a collection of keys on your computer (or wallet address). These keys allow you to send and receive bitcoins through the Bitcoin network. Nobody has access to these keys except yourself, and they must be kept secure. We always recommend creating a backup of you wallet as if this file gets corrupted or accidentally deleted your bitcoins will be lost for good.
I was referring to your Bitcoin address/s, contained in your Bitcoin Wallet. They look like this - 17XrAZGKJqXTPkZiTH8KWCvdnHCmBA2bg. This is the address (not this one but one contained in your wallet) you give to CanadianBitcoins to transfer the coins you purchased to.
Hope that helps. :)
Man, thanks so much. That's exactly the info I needed. You guys rock.
No worries at all. +1 for taking the time to learn before you start ordering. :)
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Nice
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New info from veteran users:
Forget about using Portable PGP; instead, use GPG4USB. Download it at http://gpg4usb.cpunk.de/download.html.
For a tutorial, use your Tor browser to go to http://32yehzkk7jflf6r2.onion/gpg4usb/.
You'll need an anonymous email address. Use your Tor browser to go to http://jhiwjjlqpyawmpjx.onion/. After signing up, use this new email address to generate a new key pair (public & private) for yourself. You give your public key to other people and they use that to encrypt messages to you. Never give out your private key or password--and make sure you use a STRONG password. Set your key to the max--4096 bits.
Remember never to use your Tor browser to go to sites you normally do--and NEVER log in to services that you use, such as Facebook. Use Tor strictly for underground stuff.
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If you're reading this, you've at least figured out how to install/use a Tor browser (download available at https://www.torproject.org/projects/torbrowser.html.en) and have acquired the Silk Road URL (http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion). The most important things to do while getting started are to read/remember the following:
-- Read The Dread Pirate Roberts' introduction message (http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion//silkroad/about)
-- Read the buyer's guide (http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/buyers_guide)
-- Remain anonymous. Do not share any personal information, details, locations, etc. with anyone. Use a strong password that is different than your regular password for legitimate sites. When you place an order, you are running a risk and it is possible that the person on the other end is law enforcement. No system is full proof, but SR has a good track record. Just be careful and only share the secrets of Silk Road with trusted friends who would use it responsibly. If you're concerned that you might ever be visited by LE or have your home searched, it's a good idea to store all damning digitial evidence (programs, keys, passwords, etc.) on a micro SD card, which can be hidden anywhere with little chance of it being found.
--Use the forums (http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion). Reading will answer your questions, posting will share your knowledge with others, and doing both will build this community into something that we can all be proud of. Most of us already are. While you're trying to build up your 50 posts to get your Jr. Member status, why not try to answer as many questions as possible and make some new friends? Spamming is the whole reason for that dumb rule in the first place. The 50-post rule separates serious users from yahoos and 'bots, even if it is a pain in the ass. I made my first couple of posts before the new rule came down; and while it sucks being sent back to the minor leagues, as it were, I understand the reason for the policy.
Right. And that's what I intend to do with this thread--answer some questions and share what I know. I discovered Silk Road by accident less than two weeks ago. I spent an evening on Google, teaching myself all about Tor browsers, bitcoins, PGP, and everything else. It takes some doing, but it is worth it.
Here are a couple of pretty good technical articles about Silk Road, both of which were instrumental in me getting here:
-- http://www.gwern.net/Silk%20Road.
-- http://dailyanarchist.com/2011/06/21/how-and-why-to-get-to-silk-road/
So, read buyers' feedback, the forums, encrypt your address, and don't finalize early (FE). Some legitimate vendors require customers to FE--especially new customers or when shipping to another country--but you should have no trouble finding awesome vendors who DO NOT REQUIRE THIS. (I recommend only ordering from domestic vendors, as your package will not by scrutinized by Customs. While most international orders go through fine, why risk it if you don't have to?) There are lots of choices on SR, so shop around for a vendor you're comfortable with. I personally would rather give my business to a vendor who respects the escrow system--and if he's a top seller who has great feedback or I've done business with him in the past, I might decide to FE as a favor. The only time you should FE is if you are doing it specifically to reward a vendor for excellent service.
FINDING A GOOD DEAL FROM A REPUTABLE VENDOR:
First of all, locate the product that you want to buy and your options should be arranged by bestseller in descending order. Compare the prices and when you see something that looks promising, click on the product link and read ALL of the information there, especially the feedback at the bottom. When it comes to feedback, read a few pages. Next, click on the seller's name to go to his/her page, where you can read more about them and note their stats. Look at several vendors and compare prices/feedback before placing an order. Some vendors charge more, but it's because they have a better product, faster shipping, better stealth, etc. Decide what you're willing to pay and if extra $ is worth it. Now you should head over to the forums and find a thread on the product you're interested in or on a specific vendor. This is where you will get your most detailed information. If you can't find what you're looking for, post a new topic and ask. It is also worth mentioning that new vendors often post awesome deals to bring in new customers and establish themselves. Take advantage of the deals by placing a small order as a test, that way you won't be risking much. Do this a couple of times and wait for stats to build ... but don't wait too long to place a larger order or you will miss the sale price.
OBTAINING AND TRANSFERRING BITCOINS:
A common problem seems to be finding an easy way to get bitcoins. At first, this can seem like a daunting task--it isn't. Use the following instructions if you're in the USA and you won't be scammed.
-- To start, open a throwaway account with Mt. Gox at https://mtgox.com/. No need to verify this account or use your real info unless you're gonna be trading big money.
-- Go to "funding options/add funds"
-- Use the drop-down menu to select "BitInstant," which will give you instructions and your account number.
-- Go to BitInstant at https://www.bitinstant.com/
-- The reason you need a Mt. Gox account is that BitInstant doesn't sell bitcoins; you must trade for them at Mt. Gox. BitInstant allows you to immediately fund your Mt. Gox account so you can start trading.
-- In BitInstant, use the drop-down menu to select "cash deposit" and choose a local retailer, such as Wal-Mart or CVS.
-- Fill in your info and you will download a .pdf file with information for filling out a blue MoneyGram slip at Wal-Mart. Basically, you're "paying a bill" to ZipZap, Inc. and you will be entering their four-digit receive code and account number on the form. Use your real name, address, etc. on the MoneyGram. It doesn't matter, since everything will be laundered and untraceable by the time it gets to Silk Road. Use fake info for your Mt. Gox account, although I don't think it matters. Some people use fake names on the MoneyGram. I guess it doesn't make any difference, since they don't require ID. I used my real info because I was afraid of the transaction being flagged or cancelled.
-- Go to your local retailer, fill out the MoneyGram with the info provided from BitInstant, and pay for it with cash. There is a $3.95 fee.
-- You money will appear in your Mt. Gox account within 4 minutes--1 hour at the most (never takes that long).
-- While logged into your Mt. Gox account, use the "trade" button to buy bitcoins.
-- Go to "funding options/withdraw" and use the drop-down menu to select "bitcoins" as your currency. Enter the amount and bitcoin address from Silk Road (find that on your SR account page--looks like this: 1GDGgeTfNrxdhmJokSP7EqVRZGXSFuSnfp)
-- If you have 5.67 bitcoins with Mt. Gox, transfer 5.66 to cover the transaction fee. Select the option for faster transfer (0.005 BTC).
-- It may take several hours for your bitcoins to show up, but they will. Once they are in your SR wallet, you're ready to order.
I hope this helps. This is the fastest, most reliable way that I've found to get bitcoins. If you bank with a major financial institution, you also have the option of transferring funds directly to BitInstant. While this doesn't involve leaving the house and taking out cash, I'm not sure if it's any slower than using a MoneyGram. One drawback to this method is that you have to provide BitInstant with your banking username and password (scary!) BitInstant is reputable, but that is just information that I don't want to release. There are many other options, but this one works and it is the one I've been using.
USING PGP TO ENCRYPT MESSAGES AND YOUR ADDRESS:
Using PGP to encrypt your mailing address is not strictly necessary, but it adds an extra layer of security to your transaction and many vendors request/require it. I've found that Portable PGP (download available at http://ppgp.sourceforge.net/) has a very nice interface and is easy to use. I ordered from one vendor who said not to use this version (I don't know why), but I did anyway and my order came as expected. I've placed three orders now with three separate vendors, all of which were executed flawlessly.
Other PGP downloads:
-- http://www.pgpi.org/download/
-- http://www.gnupg.org/download/index.en.html
A few good places to learn about how to use PGP are:
-- http://www.gnupg.org/documentation/manuals.en.html
-- http://www.gnupg.org/gph/en/manual.html
-- https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GnuPrivacyGuardHowto
To download and install Portable PGP, visit http://ppgp.sourceforge.net/. Once you've installed the program, to use Portable PGP, copy the vendor's public key into a .txt file and save it. When you open the program, you can import contacts from .txt files on your computer. Once a vendor's address has been added to your keyring, you can direct a specific message (such as your mailing address) to him/her. There is an "encrypt" tab, which provides you with a blank text box. Write your address or message, select your recipient(s), click "encrypt," and it will open a separate window with your PGP message. Copy this string of gibberish into the SR mailing form.
As I said, I've tried several versions of PGP and this one is the easiest to use. No problems so far.
CONCLUSION:
Okay, that's it for now. I think that I've covered the basics here and provided some good references; and while I'm no expert, I'm happy to help by sharing what I know. Hopefully I haven't forgotten anything important, but I will update if something occurs to me. Let me know if you have questions or suggestions for doing things better.
--Dr. Jay A.K.A. The Prince of Darkness
See, now this says right from mtgox to SR. Completely the opposite of other things I have read. I was told not to do that? I moved mine around to several different wallets then to SR.
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Threads like this are incredibly useful.
I kinda forget that drjaycsmith had to take the time to selflessly organize all of this information.
Thank you so much. I am PMing myself as a reminder that I need to give you positive karma (once I can) for this thread. :D
Awesome.
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damn it put me in the quote I quoted...meh. I deleted the code. Either way, I was saying what he says is different then what I was told to do in a guide. It said to not go mtgox to sr. but transfer a few wallets first then up to sr....
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Threads like this are incredibly useful.
I kinda forget that drjaycsmith had to take the time to selflessly organize all of this information.
Thank you so much. I am PMing myself as a reminder that I need to give you positive karma (once I can) for this thread. :D
Awesome.
Thank you! I've had as much fun getting involved with the Silk Road community as I have placing orders. When I started, I never would have guessed that it would be like this....
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Sorry drjaycsmith, but that is actually bad advice. You should never transfer coins directly to your SR E-Wallet just in case the site is ever taken down by LE or Hackers. If that happens, there would be a good chance your coins would disappear forever. You need to download a Bitcoin Client, either a Web based one or a Desktop one, and transfer your coins from where you buy them to this wallet. A good one to use is Electrum - http://electrum.org/
Once you have this downloaded and installed, transfer your coins to one of the generated Bitcoin addresses. Then when your ready to make a purchase on SR, transfer the required amount of coins from your Client to your SR wallet containing your Bitcoin address. Always send a little more coin over in case of a price rise so you don't end up short when your ready to order. After every purchase you make on SR, request a new Bitcoin address. Using the same address more than once could potentially link you to more than one transaction should something ever happen to you. It's all about minimizing your risks, just in case something does go wrong.
Here is a link to a Bitcoin Exchange in Australia that has a detailed explanation on the different Bitcoin Clients available to be used. It outlines the pro's and con's of each one so you can make an informed decision.
This is a clearnet link - https://bitinnovate.com/need-a-wallet/
:) :)
I see your point. I think I'll follow your advice and get Electrum as an added layer of security; however, I don't store anything in my SR wallet. When I'm ready to buy something, I transfer in the appropriate number of bitcoins and immediately place my order.
Wadozo & Iris haven't pointed out any dangers in withdrawing bitcoins from Mt. Gox directly to SR; however, adding another one or two wallets in between couldn't hurt. I haven't had any issues, although it's always nice to hear from the experts.
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BUMP !
Lots of useful information here.
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Thanks for the great information!
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There are lots of options when it comes to buying bitcoins. BitInstant to Mt. Gox is one route, although you can now purchase coins through BitInstant and transfer them directly to Silk Road, skipping Mt. Gox altogether ... but that's probably not a great idea. They've been updating BitInstant--it's down at the moment--and you now have to register and verify your identity. Mt. Gox is still anonymous as long as you're not trading large amounts of cash.
If you want to avoid BitInstant for whatever reason, here are some alternatives:
-- http://tradebitcoin.com/ -- Buy bitcoins with cash, in person, locally.
-- https://localbitcoins.com/ -- Buy bitcoins with cash, in person, locally.
-- https://coinbase.com/ -- Link your bank account and buy bitcoins online. Instant transfers after verification.
-- https://www.nanaimogold.com/ -- Similar to BitInstant. Use MoneyGram & Western Union to fund account.
No matter what you do, you lose some or all of your anonymity when buying coins; therefore, you should "launder" them.
Here are some sites to route your coins through before depositing them at Silk Road:
-- https://mtgox.com/ -- Currency exchange, eWallet
-- https://blockchain.info/ -- Anonymous eWallet
-- https://easywallet.org/ -- Anonymous eWallet
-- http://ow24et3tetp6tvmk.onion/ -- OnionWallet. Anonymous eWallet, also launders bitcoins.
-- http://www.bitcoinfog.com/ -- Launders bitcoins.
After purchasing your bitcoins through BitInstant or wherever, I suggest sending them through BlockChain, EasyWallet, and then OnionWallet. From there, send them to Silk Road. Also, don't forget to get a new SR bitcoin address for every transaction. Chances are slim that anyone would be paying attention, but why take a chance? Recently, an SR vendor was busted and had his coins confiscated because authorities were able to trace his transactions.
--Dr. Jay
*** IMPORTANT UPDATE ***
Do not use OnionWallet (http://ow24et3tetp6tvmk.onion/)--it is a SCAM. I transferred a small amount of money in there and it was immediately stolen. The entire website, as legit as it looks, is bogus. After the theft occurred, I did some research and found out that this has happened to a lot of people.
*** OnionWallet is a SCAM ***
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Bitcoin scam warning!!!
Was looking good for the vendor ( Bitcoins ) but now he has turned into a scammer , done me out of 150.00 and i noticed someone said they have been waiting a few days now as well.
Just a heads up, stay well clear !!
Take care
Forgot to add that he has been online every day that i have been sending him messages, but he isn't reading them, obviously he couldn't care what i have to say now that he has my money.
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mtgox will require verification for other petty reason, never sign into ur mtgox from another ip address besides ur own, thats what did it for me. i got lucky it only took a few hours, some people have reported weeks with no response
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Bitcoin scam warning!!!
Was looking good for the vendor ( Bitcoins ) but now he has turned into a scammer , done me out of 150.00 and i noticed someone said they have been waiting a few days now as well.
Just a heads up, stay well clear !!
Take care
Forgot to add that he has been online every day that i have been sending him messages, but he isn't reading them, obviously he couldn't care what i have to say now that he has my money.
Which vendor is scamming and what are the details? Guess I missed something.
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Bitcoin scam warning!!!
Was looking good for the vendor ( Bitcoins ) but now he has turned into a scammer , done me out of 150.00 and i noticed someone said they have been waiting a few days now as well.
Just a heads up, stay well clear !!
Take care
Forgot to add that he has been online every day that i have been sending him messages, but he isn't reading them, obviously he couldn't care what i have to say now that he has my money.
Which vendor is scamming and what are the details? Guess I missed something.
As of now it is just an accusation. Hopefully things work out for the best on both sides. Here is the thread maxout posted.
http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=187572.0
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*** IMPORTANT UPDATE ***
Do not use OnionWallet (http://ow24et3tetp6tvmk.onion/)--it is a SCAM. I transferred a small amount of money in there and it was immediately stolen. The entire website, as legit as it looks, is bogus. After the theft occurred, I did some research and found out that this has happened to a lot of people.
*** OnionWallet is a SCAM ***
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bumped
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Bitcoin scam warning!!!
Was looking good for the vendor ( Bitcoins ) but now he has turned into a scammer , done me out of 150.00 and i noticed someone said they have been waiting a few days now as well.
Just a heads up, stay well clear !!
Take care
Forgot to add that he has been online every day that i have been sending him messages, but he isn't reading them, obviously he couldn't care what i have to say now that he has my money.
Which vendor is scamming and what are the details? Guess I missed something.
As of now it is just an accusation. Hopefully things work out for the best on both sides. Here is the thread maxout posted.
http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=187572.0
I will know tonight if he's scamming or not for sure.
Take care
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thank you. im new to the road and this info has answered alot of the questions ive been stuck on. this definitely is a little more complicated then other sites ive ordered from in the past but it seems about 1000 times safer. ive been trying to learn as much as i can before i place my first order and this has been extremely helpful. much appreciated.
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Took me 36 hours to place my first order nearly 6 months ago...now I can't even get a fucking btc.
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Is there a "safe list" for purchasing bitcoins or maybe we can start one in the newbie thread???
I have got TRUCRYPT encryption, GPGKeys, blockchain and the wallet figured out but do not know where to safely get bitcoins.
lets start a thread for current safe and easy places to buy bitcoins
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There is one in the other forums...if you're in the U.S. I am seeing a lot about *CLEARNET* localbitcoin.com. I personally have not tried them, nor gotten a btc in some time. My last time was with bitinstant and they're fubar now. There is also Campbx. Get your 50 posts so you can read up on more alternatives.
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can anyone tell me why one persons pgp key wont work.... he is the reason that i started to learn about pgp keys in the first place and now everyone i add works but when i ctrl v him it says no key selected. i use gpg4win and i deselected kleopatra and selected gpa. thanks for your help.
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I wish I had seen this post before I started but +1 for compiling all this info that newbies truly need to know
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Is there a "safe list" for purchasing bitcoins or maybe we can start one in the newbie thread???
I have got TRUCRYPT encryption, GPGKeys, blockchain and the wallet figured out but do not know where to safely get bitcoins.
lets start a thread for current safe and easy places to buy bitcoins
Again:
-- https://bitinstant.com/ -- Buy bitcoins, lots of options including MoneyGram. Fund Mt. Gox & other exchanges.
-- http://tradebitcoin.com/ -- Buy bitcoins with cash, in person, locally.
-- https://localbitcoins.com/ -- Buy bitcoins with cash, in person, locally.
-- https://coinbase.com/ -- Link your bank account and buy bitcoins online. Instant transfers after verification.
-- https://www.nanaimogold.com/ -- Similar to BitInstant. Use MoneyGram & Western Union to fund account.
-- https://virwox.com/ -- Currency exchange, eWallet. Lots of options for funding account (buying BTC).
No matter what you do, you lose some or all of your anonymity when buying coins; therefore, you should "launder" them.
Here are some sites to route your coins through before depositing them at Silk Road:
-- https://mtgox.com/ -- Currency exchange, eWallet
-- https://blockchain.info/ -- Anonymous eWallet
-- https://easywallet.org/ -- Anonymous eWallet
-- http://www.bitcoinfog.com/ -- Launders bitcoins.
BitInstant, with or without Mt. Gox, is a breeze. Just send a MoneyGram from Wal-Mart or another retailer. You can also link your bank account. Unfortunately, the site is temporarily down as they make some improvements.
https://localbitcoins.com/ is perhaps the easiest method for obtaining bitcoins. Find someone near you, meet them, pay cash for BTC. I bought some yesterday and it was fast and hassle-free.
--Dr. Jay
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Hello and thanks to everyone who participated in this thread--Dr. Jay in particular.
I've read this thread up and down and have committed much of the content here, in terms of setting up an infallible system for making a purchase via SR, to knowledge.
When going through the process, I came across a major hurdle that i didn't see mentioned on this thread. MTGOX as of may requires that users validate or verify their ID with utilities statements and/or identification.
I noticed that when Dr. Jay descrbed the process he stated that there was no need to to verify this account, just to set it up simply as a 'burner.' but i also noticed that these posts were made prior to MTGOXs policy..
Can someone please advise as to what and/or if this policy is enforced and if i would be able to set up an account (already did) without verifying and then subsequently route my btcoins to an appropriate ewallet and eventually to SR?
any advice or help would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks all, again for this awesome thread.
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Hello and thanks to everyone who participated in this thread--Dr. Jay in particular.
I've read this thread up and down and have committed much of the content here, in terms of setting up an infallible system for making a purchase via SR, to knowledge.
When going through the process, I came across a major hurdle that i didn't see mentioned on this thread. MTGOX as of may requires that users validate or verify their ID with utilities statements and/or identification.
I noticed that when Dr. Jay descrbed the process he stated that there was no need to to verify this account, just to set it up simply as a 'burner.' but i also noticed that these posts were made prior to MTGOXs policy..
Can someone please advise as to what and/or if this policy is enforced and if i would be able to set up an account (already did) without verifying and then subsequently route my btcoins to an appropriate ewallet and eventually to SR?
any advice or help would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks all, again for this awesome thread.
I covered this in my updates. When I opened my account with Mt. Gox, there was no need to verify it unless I wanted to trade BIG money--for an average consumer, an unverified/anonymous account was more than adequate. But guess what? The account was never REALLY anonymous, because you can only access Mt. Gox with a normal web browser; using Tor will freeze your account. So ... your actual IP address is out there. My account is still unverified, but only because I opened it prior to their new regulations. As far as I know, ALL new accounts must be verified.
The same holds true for BitInstant. It used to be "anonymous" in a flimsy sense; however, now you must register and verify your identity to use the service.
Well ... big fucking deal. There's plenty of good clearnet services out there for buying and selling bitcoins--which is NOT illegal, by the way--and using PayPal or a credit card online is certainly more convenient than driving to Wal-Mart and sending a MoneyGram.
The fact is, there are LOTS of ways to get coins.
You want anonymous? Try https://localbitcoins.com/
Basically, you buy bitcoins from a local person with cash. For many folks, this is the preferred method--and yes, it works well. Meet the guy in a parking lot, give him cash, and he releases coins to your account. Go to the site for details. It's very simple.
So ... if you buy bitcoins using your own identity, how do you get them to Silk Road? Send them through a couple of anonymous Tor wallets:
https://blockchain.info/
https://easywallet.org/
Bitcoin Fog "launders" coins--it is a tumbler. It has mixed reviews. Take a look: http://fogcore5n3ov3tui.onion/
But guess what? Silk Road itself tumbles/launders coins. Get a new address every time you make a transaction or deposit money for added security. If you buy bitcoins with a verified account, by the time you route them through several untraceable wallets and into Silk Road's labyrinth, no one will be the wiser. That's why it works so well.
Anyway, go back and read the original post again. Many updates have been added recently.
--Dr. Jay
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I've been having difficulties sourcing coins for the past month or so. It's been so problematic, I pretty much have written off SR as a possibility, which is really sad to me. I used to purchase off of SR regularly, but then the vendor I was getting coins from went out of commission, and then this site I was using got shut down by the Feds. Was it bitstamp? Whatever. Anyhow, I'm now trying localbitcoins... Should I be sketched out about having to do SMS verification to do a bank transfer? I don't like having my mobile number linked to a transaction. Any advice? I haven't had medical weed in over a month. :'(
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I've been having difficulties sourcing coins for the past month or so. It's been so problematic, I pretty much have written off SR as a possibility, which is really sad to me. I used to purchase off of SR regularly, but then the vendor I was getting coins from went out of commission, and then this site I was using got shut down by the Feds. Was it bitstamp? Whatever. Anyhow, I'm now trying localbitcoins... Should I be sketched out about having to do SMS verification to do a bank transfer? I don't like having my mobile number linked to a transaction. Any advice? I haven't had medical weed in over a month. :'(
The answer is in the thread--read it from the beginning. When buying coins, pretend that you're a day trader and not a customer on Silk Road--that ought to set your mind at ease. Launder your coins by routing them through several wallets before SR, which is itself a tumbler. Read DPR's guide. You're fine.
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This is about gpg:
do you have to make a new burner encryption per person, or can you use the same "email" for all of your encryptions?
Like, say my first one ever was IDontKnow@IDontCare.org and I used it with a vendor to encrypt my address.
Do I have to make up another email for another encryption with a different person?
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This is about gpg:
do you have to make a new burner encryption per person, or can you use the same "email" for all of your encryptions?
Like, say my first one ever was IDontKnow@IDontCare.org and I used it with a vendor to encrypt my address.
Do I have to make up another email for another encryption with a different person?
No. PGP is extremely easy to use.
Use GPG4USB. Download it at http://gpg4usb.cpunk.de/download.html
For a tutorial, use your Tor browser to go to http://32yehzkk7jflf6r2.onion/gpg4usb/
You'll need an anonymous email address. Use your Tor browser to go to http://jhiwjjlqpyawmpjx.onion/. After signing up, use this new email address to generate a new key pair (public & private) for yourself. You give your public key to other people and they use that to encrypt messages to you. Never give out your private key or password--and make sure you use a STRONG password. Set your key to the max--4096 bits.
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Thank you! Great Guide. The most difficult thing for me to figure out when I began was where in the hell to find my SR Wallet address.
:-[
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Great Newbie guide.
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For a tutorial, use your Tor browser to go to http://32yehzkk7jflf6r2.onion/gpg4usb/
You'll need an anonymous email address. Use your Tor browser to go to http://jhiwjjlqpyawmpjx.onion/.
You posted this today. How on earth did you miss the news that Tormail was compromised and has been been taken down?
Both of those sites were apparently hosted on FH and are down now.
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Well, I've already downloaded from GPGtools, and it actually worked twice. But then I didn't make a lot of purchases and forgot how to do it.
The part that I'm confused on is the fingerprint bit. I totally understand how to encrypt and decrypt and use someones PGP block, but the part in the instructional video I watched was confusing. What is a "fingerprint"? Why is it necessary? How do I use it?
This was the video that I watched:
http://support.gpgtools.org/kb/how-to/watch-our-screencast
And if you were super kind and wanted to help, the part I'm talking about starts at 1:49
It says "insert my fingerprint" what is that?
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For a tutorial, use your Tor browser to go to http://32yehzkk7jflf6r2.onion/gpg4usb/
You'll need an anonymous email address. Use your Tor browser to go to http://jhiwjjlqpyawmpjx.onion/.
You posted this today. How on earth did you miss the news that Tormail was compromised and has been been taken down?
Both of those sites were apparently hosted on FH and are down now.
My mistake. That was a cut-and-paste job from the original tutorial. 24 hours ago, nothing had really been confirmed--now, of course, it has. I am in the habit of encrypting pretty much ALL correspondence, regardless of content. Very brief/unimportant messages get skipped sometimes.
Am I concerned? No.
Now to find an alternative for Tor Mail.
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sub'd
...reminds me of my guide :D I can't wait to read it in full!
+1
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Well, I've already downloaded from GPGtools, and it actually worked twice. But then I didn't make a lot of purchases and forgot how to do it.
The part that I'm confused on is the fingerprint bit. I totally understand how to encrypt and decrypt and use someones PGP block, but the part in the instructional video I watched was confusing. What is a "fingerprint"? Why is it necessary? How do I use it?
This was the video that I watched:
http://support.gpgtools.org/kb/how-to/watch-our-screencast
And if you were super kind and wanted to help, the part I'm talking about starts at 1:49
It says "insert my fingerprint" what is that?
I'll take a look at the video when I have a second ... but I never watched any videos in order to learn PGP.
The download for GPG4USB is at http://gpg4usb.cpunk.de/download.html
For the tutorial, use your Tor browser to go to http://32yehzkk7jflf6r2.onion/gpg4usb/
Frankly, this program has a very user-friendly interface and it's basically self-explanatory.
As for your "fingerprint," I assume you mean signing messages and confirming others' signatures. This is a feature that allows others to verify that it is you sending the message; conversely, you are able to verify that messages from others are genuine. I don't bother with it and average users don't have to. It's important for DPR, etc.
To avoid the possibility of someone impersonating him, you'll notice that important announcements from DPR go like this:
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
Hash: SHA1
It is becoming clear that the US Feds are behind the take down of Freedom Hosting and have access to every record of every site hosted by them. This includes the anonymous email service known as Tor Mail. I know that MANY people, vendors included, used tormail. You must think back through your tormail usage and assume everything you wrote there and didn't encrypt can be read by law enforcement at this point and take action accordingly. I personally did not use the service for anything important, and hopefully neither did any of you.
The best article I have found on the matter is by wired (clearnet warning):
http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2013/08/freedom-hosting/
Everyone please try to keep each other informed as you are able.
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Just a quick question, if I wish to relay messages back and forth with a vendor after an order, do I encrypt my public key as well, or just leave it at the end of my details?
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Just a quick question, if I wish to relay messages back and forth with a vendor after an order, do I encrypt my public key as well, or just leave it at the end of my details?
No, you do not encrypt your public key. If you do, how will anyone use it to encrypt a message to you?
To send a message to someone, you copy their public key to the PGP clipboard or save it in a text file; then, use the "import" function to add them to your keyring. Once you do this, their name will appear to the right of your clipboard with a check box. Write your message on the clipboard, select/check whoever you want to be able to read the message, press "encrypt." Now you will have a PGP message that you can copy into an email or PM or whatever. When the recipient gets it, he/she copies it to their clipboard, presses "decrypt," enters their password, and it is translated back into English. Only those who are selected can decrypt the message. It's always a good idea to add yourself as a recipient so you can go back and read stuff. If you're going to save messages, save them in their encrypted form. Use a STRONG password, don't share it, and don't store it anywhere. Keep it in your head.
Username: drjaycsmith
SR SMF Profile:
http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?action=profile;u=50249
Send message on Silk Road:
http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/messages/send_message/be92efd9f1
Email:
doctorjaycsmith@tormail.org
Dr. Jay's tips for SR, PGP, bitcoins, etc.:
http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=112029.msg765916#msg765916
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Thanks for explaining the fingerprint!
I found another thread explaining how to use GPGtools for Mac specifically, and I think I did it right.
Thanks everyone!
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some details were missing in terms of downloading the program but this is great direction in where to start.
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Okay, I have got everything down now, even how to encrypt, except for one thing:
What email do I use? What site should I use to create a burner? Or should I just make a completely fake one or what?
Any help would be awesome, thank you! :)
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Okay, I have got everything down now, even how to encrypt, except for one thing:
What email do I use? What site should I use to create a burner? Or should I just make a completely fake one or what?
Any help would be awesome, thank you! :)
I'm doing a little research right now, trying to find something secure & reliable--a provider that won't send carbons to the DEA and make my computer explode. I'll let you know, although I'm sure that there's plenty of folks out there who are way ahead of me.
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Does it really matter? Everyone thought Tormail was safe because it was a hidden service email server, but all those emails are probably in the hands of the FBI now. You might as well use any clearnet email provider, as long as you can register over Tor and only use the the service over Tor, and PGP encrypt all emails, you will be no worse off than everyone who used Tormail.
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Is it safe to use your sr wallet to get bitcoins from those free bitcoin captcha sites? I was using blockchain to do it for awhile but I'd like to skip the transaction fees
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Thanks so much for taking the time! I've run across a couple other tutorials of yours and they are so helpful. I do appreciate!
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Super helpful thread! Thanks, please if anyone finds a viable alternative to tormail post it, ok? I've been looking but they all seem to cost money.
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great thread but the more i read into this the more i think can i really be arsed with all this just to get a bit of dope lol
first ive got to anonymously buy bitcoins............. and hope i dont get scammed
then ive got to transfer them through several wallets...............and hope i dont get scammed
then ive got to faf about with this encryption and opening anonymous email shizzle..............and hope it doesnt get turned over by the feds
then ive got to find a local seller who sells what i want for what little of my money is left after all the commision charges ive paid on obtaining moving and laundering my money
then i have to pay the highly inflated prices to the seller.............and hope i dont get scammed
then i have to sit biting my nails waiting for the postman.............and hope i dont get turned over by the feds/or scammed by the postman
seems there is far too much hoping involved and far too many ways to get scammed or caught traffiking and far too much inflation on my purchace is it really worth it???
the only thing that keeps me interested is the variety of stuff i couldnt normally get or rarely anyway ;-)
that should be the silk road motto "we live in hope"
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something like this should be stickied at the top
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Great post 2 thumbs up
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great thread but the more i read into this the more i think can i really be arsed with all this just to get a bit of dope lol
first ive got to anonymously buy bitcoins............. and hope i dont get scammed
then ive got to transfer them through several wallets...............and hope i dont get scammed
then ive got to faf about with this encryption and opening anonymous email shizzle..............and hope it doesnt get turned over by the feds
then ive got to find a local seller who sells what i want for what little of my money is left after all the commision charges ive paid on obtaining moving and laundering my money
then i have to pay the highly inflated prices to the seller.............and hope i dont get scammed
then i have to sit biting my nails waiting for the postman.............and hope i dont get turned over by the feds/or scammed by the postman
seems there is far too much hoping involved and far too many ways to get scammed or caught traffiking and far too much inflation on my purchace is it really worth it???
the only thing that keeps me interested is the variety of stuff i couldnt normally get or rarely anyway ;-)
that should be the silk road motto "we live in hope"
It only seems overwhelming and sketchy at first. Installing Tor and PGP and learning how to use them is simple and free. Once you're online--which you are--everything can be done from home. Buy bitcoins, transfer them through a couple of anonymous wallets, deposit them at SR. Place your orders and wait. I placed five orders today and they'll start arriving within a day or two. What could be easier? It's as easy as shopping on Amazon.
As for getting scammed, just do your homework in these forums a little bit. Scams are routinely exposed for everyone to see. I've only been ripped off once in the last year (for a small amount of money) and I blame myself. I transferred some bitcoins to a bogus laundering service, TorWallet, without researching them first. My dough disappeared and that was it; however, had I looked before I leaped, it never would have happened.
I try to do my best to offer safe, simple methods for using Silk Road. I'm always open to constructive criticism and I love to learn new ways of doing things.
Anyway, complete a few transactions before giving up. Once you get the hang of it, you can place an order within minutes without ever leaving your desk--and if you read the forums to find the hot sellers, you'll be paying low prices and receiving fire gear.
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great read and thanks 1+ ;D
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great read and thanks 1+ ;D
cheers i was wanting to order a couple of bits today but lookin about theres no1 that offeres bank transfer via paypal as my bank requires me to authenticate transactions via mobile and my old number is registered and will take a week to change it which is too long really and one offers cash deposit but im not sure how that works sez he uses escrow but do i need to register with escrow and how will that work if im depositing cash straight into his bank to i make the purchace of coin/s he deposits them into escrow and then its safe for me to give cash or do i need to register and use bank transfer to use escrow or can i use cash but still need to register escrow to collect coins and if so which one? lol as i checked escrow.com and they only deal in euro or usd im in gbp lol
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also do i need any special email address to register with localbitcoins.com???
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also do i need any special email address to register with localbitcoins.com???
Just register at localbitcoins.com with your regular info--trading for bitcoins is legal and has nothing to do with this site or ones like it. You're going to send them through a couple of anonymous eWallets, anyway--blockchain.info & easywallet.org are good examples--and then you're going to transfer them to a fresh address at Silk Road, which is constantly being tumbled. Once the funds are there, request a new SR address; after making your purchase, change your SR address again.
Etc.
Believe it or not, there is virtually no chance that some government spook is looking over your shoulder as you send away for that fifty-dollar bag of dope.
Go ahead. Knock yourself out.
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lol cheers sory for being cinical but i still got an electronic tag on my ankle lol
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Hi, folks. Just stopping by to mention that my GPG4USB tutorial has a new home:
http://nfm5tbykjg6oijbm.onion/gpg4usb/
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Thanks man
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how long do transactions usually take to be confirmed with blockchain and easywallet??
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how long do transactions usually take to be confirmed with blockchain and easywallet??
Usually an hour or less. When transferring bitcoins between wallets, you can monitor the transaction by copying one of the wallet addresses and entering it on the homepage of blockchain.info. If you're transferring between two easywallets, it is instantaneous and there are no fees. For me, it takes several hours to buy the coins and filter them through several wallets before having them show up at Silk Road.
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+1 :)
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Cheers for all the info.
I'm only just getting started but I'm really keen to make my first purchase, and want to make sure I've followed all the right steps and am using the right programs/sites.
From what I have gathered so far, I need to be using Tor for everything, which I have been doing. I'll be using spendbitcoins.com and my local bank to make a cash deposit, and have the bitcoins put in my blockchain.info wallet, which was setup using an anonymous email. I can then choose to "Launder" the bitcoins through a few wallets to make it harder to trace back to me. Then I would need to deposit the bitcoins to my SR account. Once I have arranged my purchase, I'll need to send my Public key and encrypted message that includes delivery details to the seller. I will be using btcrow.com for the deposit of bitcoins, and will release the bitcoins to the seller once I have received the delivery.
Very brief but am I getting everything here? Have I missed any steps? I'll keep doing my research as I only recently started but hopefully I can make a purchase soon!
Thanks :)
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My brain hurts after stumbling upon all of this.
This will take awhile, but I'm in no rush.
Really cool to be here. I had thought the internet had been completely demolished and rebuilt with tracking software in it.
Thank god, a bastion of hope in the desert of state intervention.
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great info ..thanks a lot
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Cheers for all the info.
I'm only just getting started but I'm really keen to make my first purchase, and want to make sure I've followed all the right steps and am using the right programs/sites.
From what I have gathered so far, I need to be using Tor for everything, which I have been doing. I'll be using spendbitcoins.com and my local bank to make a cash deposit, and have the bitcoins put in my blockchain.info wallet, which was setup using an anonymous email. I can then choose to "Launder" the bitcoins through a few wallets to make it harder to trace back to me. Then I would need to deposit the bitcoins to my SR account. Once I have arranged my purchase, I'll need to send my Public key and encrypted message that includes delivery details to the seller. I will be using btcrow.com for the deposit of bitcoins, and will release the bitcoins to the seller once I have received the delivery.
Very brief but am I getting everything here? Have I missed any steps? I'll keep doing my research as I only recently started but hopefully I can make a purchase soon!
Thanks :)
Sounds right. Just use 2 - 3 anonymous, torified wallets between where you purchase your bitcoins and Silk Road; also, get a new SR wallet address before/after every deposit, transaction, etc. You should be constantly changing it. As for escrow, that's all built right in to SR. When you place an order, it will be "processing"; when it ships, it will be "in transit"; when it arrives and you're satisfied, you will click on "finalize," thus releasing funds. Leave good reviews, always be fair, never scam, work out issues with the vendors before going to SR or the forums. Protect your stats.
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Hi am fairly new to silk road and am so glad I found this thread its been helping me a lot. Its hard because you just want to get it over with and buy stuff but this is all important safety measures to go through. Anyways am still a bit confused about how to go about buying things so i use GPG to contact the seller but how should I send it? do I initially send my public key then communicate after?
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Hey,
This thread is just what I needed. Registered a while ago but not looking into it properly until recently, so pretty new to this and been frying my head the last couple of days trying to sort out everything I need to do.
So I have an SR account, have an anonymous email account with bitmessage. Registered with localbitcoins.com, which I can use my regular every day email with right?
So doing everything through tor, buy bit coins, send em through a few wallets, deposit in new wallet on SR, order away? Just read on here about PGP. Is this important? What's the best way to sort this?
Thanks for all the great info so far dudes :)
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Oh wow thanks for the material
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Using PGP encryption is not necessary; however, it is STRONGLY recommended. When you place an order and send your address to the vendor, it is encrypted by Silk Road ... but if it is ever intercepted (anything is possible), having another layer of encryption (PGP) will prevent LE from being able to tie your name & address to a felonious transaction.
Also, all emails and private messages should be encrypted using PGP, especially if they contain sensitive info. When Tormail was compromised, many were left wondering how much of their correspondence could be viewed by LE.
Some? None? All?
For those of us who encrypted everything ... well ... this wasn't a question worth pondering. I assume that everything is up for grabs, sooner or later. It pays to be cautious; however, small-time consumers are really not targets anyway. If you make it easy enough, LE might make an example of you ... but honestly, you have nothing to offer them and the cost associated with pursuing charges is simply too high.
Vendors? Yeah.
DPR and the gang? You bet.
Lil ol' me? Doubt it.
--Dr. Jay
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Hi, folks. Just stopping by to mention that my GPG4USB tutorial has a new home:
http://nfm5tbykjg6oijbm.onion/gpg4usb/
I can't load that page to save my life...is there an easier way to find it through the forums?
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Hi, folks. Just stopping by to mention that my GPG4USB tutorial has a new home:
http://nfm5tbykjg6oijbm.onion/gpg4usb/
I can't load that page to save my life...is there an easier way to find it through the forums?
It doesn't work for me either but this may help you if you're using windows. Sometimes I need a good visual tutorial to go along with text assistance. google and youtube never let me down. Good luck sir!
***clearnet http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m56dsDc2808 clearnet***
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Great information man. You solved much of my confusion which was mostly about purchasing the bitcoins, as well as great advice!! ;)