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Discussion => Security => Topic started by: bowfly007 on January 07, 2013, 11:17 pm

Title: thunderbird tormail mac help btc reward
Post by: bowfly007 on January 07, 2013, 11:17 pm
Hello am in dire straights at the moment i have been away for about 6 months and my Thunderbird has automatically updated its self and i can not connect to tormail from Thunderbird . I have tried reinstalling tor and Thunderbird to no avail .
Yes its a mac but i had it working before smoothly. I have instruction here from previous posts but it still don't work
anyone else using a mac snow leopard 10.6.8  with Thunderbird who can get me back online and get purchasing please help
btc for help ............. 
Title: Re: thunderbird tormail mac help btc reward
Post by: SNSD on January 07, 2013, 11:33 pm
No idea about macs or thunderbird, but whats wrong with the normal tormail squirrelmail service?
Title: Re: thunderbird tormail mac help btc reward
Post by: bowfly007 on January 08, 2013, 04:22 pm
Thunderbird wont verify my tormail account says wrong user name password.

Configuration cloud not be verified - is the username or password wrong ?

i know its right as well
my setting our
network.proxy.socks_remote_dns true
HTTP Proxy: 127.0.0.1 Port 8118
SSL Proxy: 127.0.0.1 Port 8118
Socks Host: 127.0.0.1 Port 9050
socks 4
SMTP server: jhiwjjlqpyawmpjx.onion Port: 25 SSL: None
Authentication: Normal Password
IMAP server: jhiwjjlqpyawmpjx.onion Port: 143 SSL: None
Authentication: Normal Password
POP3 server: jhiwjjlqpyawmpjx.onion Port: 110 SSL: None
Authentication: Normal Password
and still it wont link to tormail any ideas anyone please ?????????
Title: Re: thunderbird tormail mac help btc reward
Post by: spazzmatrazz on January 08, 2013, 04:28 pm
Look for an extension called "torbirdy".  That worked for me.
Title: Re: thunderbird tormail mac help btc reward
Post by: astor on January 08, 2013, 04:47 pm
Change Socks4 to Socks5 and try that.
Title: Re: thunderbird tormail mac help btc reward
Post by: bowfly007 on January 08, 2013, 04:55 pm
Tried socks 5
downloaded torbirdy and now it brings up a new ALERT

Could not connect to mail server bowfly007@tormail.org; the connection was refused.

IS THE THE CORRECT SERVER SETTINGS FOR THUNDERBIRD
sever settings
sever name imap.tormail.org   port 143
username bowfly007
connection security none
 
Title: Re: thunderbird tormail mac help btc reward
Post by: astor on January 08, 2013, 04:58 pm
No, you need to use the hidden service domain for the server name, jhiwjjlqpyawmpjx.onion

All that other stuff was right before, I think TorBirdy changed it. You need to change it back.
Title: Re: thunderbird tormail mac help btc reward
Post by: bowfly007 on January 08, 2013, 05:14 pm
still wont work damm
i think its something to do with the outgoing server (smtp) on thunderbird

does anyone know the correct settings for this in thunderbird (where it says view setting for this account )
mine is

description  <not specified>
severname   smtp.tormail.org
port              25
username     <not specified>
auth method none
conect sercur  none
is this the same as anyone else
Title: Re: thunderbird tormail mac help btc reward
Post by: astor on January 08, 2013, 05:36 pm
The server name still says smtp.tormail.org. Like I said,  you need to change it to the onion domain.

Also, are you using the browser bundle to supply your Tor instance? If so, I think I know what's wrong.

The Mac and Linux versions of the browser bundle use a random Socks port other than 9050. You need to force it to use port 9050.

onion icon in system tray -> Settings -> Advanced -> uncheck "Configure control port automatically"

DO NOT change the ControlPort to 9050. Leave it at 9051. The ControlPort is different from the SocksPort.

Restart the browser bundle and the SocksPort will be 9050.

Configure Thunderbird with all the settings exactly as they are written on the TorMail Help instructions,

EXCEPT change Socks4 to Socks5.

Let me know if that worked.
Title: Re: thunderbird tormail mac help btc reward
Post by: bowfly007 on January 08, 2013, 06:51 pm
hello astor its still not working but now is asking for me to type a new password in which is new

also yes its the bundle version and it wont change to 9050 keeps sticking at 9051
any ideas ......
Title: Re: thunderbird tormail mac help btc reward
Post by: bowfly007 on January 08, 2013, 07:16 pm
three days now this is driving me nuts
btc for anyone who can get me back on the road
Title: Re: thunderbird tormail mac help btc reward
Post by: astor on January 08, 2013, 07:25 pm
Like I said, the port you see in the GUI is the ControlPort. You're not supposed to change it. If you followed my instructions, the SocksPort has been changed to 9050.

You say that it's asking for a password. So when you click "Get Mail", does it say "connecting" in the status bar, followed by "connected", and then it asks for you password? If that's case, you are connected, but your username and/or password are wrong.
Title: Re: thunderbird tormail mac help btc reward
Post by: bowfly007 on January 08, 2013, 08:06 pm
thanks again astor i have followed all your instructions very carefully and tried everything you have asked

when i click on get mail now it pops ups saying

login failed
login to sever tormail.org failed 
ENTER NEW PASSWORD / cancel/ retry

am close i know it    i can nearly smell it now.......
Title: Re: thunderbird tormail mac help btc reward
Post by: putabirdonit on January 08, 2013, 08:17 pm
Why not use the normal tormail squirrel mail service? Seriously you prolly use tormail for illegal shit anyway, why would you want to download that to your hard drive?

At least try using squirrel mail to make sure you can get in using your username and password...
Title: Re: thunderbird tormail mac help btc reward
Post by: BlueGiraffe on January 08, 2013, 09:32 pm
Tor browser
Tormail
Squirrel Mail

So simple... don't know why you want to fuck around with Thunderbird for this...
Title: Re: thunderbird tormail mac help btc reward
Post by: bowfly007 on January 08, 2013, 09:53 pm
To send encrypted messages bluegiraffe


http://32yehzkk7jflf6r2.onion/tormail/tormail01.png
doesn't  work sir am still trying and trying
Title: Re: thunderbird tormail mac help btc reward
Post by: astor on January 08, 2013, 09:55 pm
What error message is it giving you?
Title: Re: thunderbird tormail mac help btc reward
Post by: Nightcrawler on January 09, 2013, 02:45 am
Thunderbird wont verify my tormail account says wrong user name password.

Configuration cloud not be verified - is the username or password wrong ?

i know its right as well
my setting our
network.proxy.socks_remote_dns true
HTTP Proxy: 127.0.0.1 Port 8118
SSL Proxy: 127.0.0.1 Port 8118
Socks Host: 127.0.0.1 Port 9050
socks 4
SMTP server: jhiwjjlqpyawmpjx.onion Port: 25 SSL: None
Authentication: Normal Password
IMAP server: jhiwjjlqpyawmpjx.onion Port: 143 SSL: None
Authentication: Normal Password
POP3 server: jhiwjjlqpyawmpjx.onion Port: 110 SSL: None
Authentication: Normal Password
and still it wont link to tormail any ideas anyone please ?????????

What you need to do is to change the settings in the Tor Browser Bundle.

- Control-click the green Vidalia icon in the Dock

- Click on Control Panel

- Click Settings

- Click Advanced

- Uncheck Configure Control Port Automatically

- Click OK

- Click Hide

Now Thunderbird should go through Vidalia, and you should now be able to login.

Nightcrawler <Nightcrawler@SR>
PGP-Key: 4096R/BBF7433B 2012-09-22
Key fingerprint = D870 C6AC CC6E 46B0 E0C7 3955 B8F1 D88E BBF7 433B
http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=174.msg633090#msg633090
Title: Re: thunderbird tormail mac help btc reward
Post by: libertarian on January 09, 2013, 05:51 am
Not that this is really helpful, but I tried for several hours to get Thunderbird to work on my Mac/Airport Extreme. Never did get it. I use Tor Mail - Squirrel mail.
I don't even remember why I wanted Thunderbird in the first place.
Title: Re: thunderbird tormail mac help btc reward
Post by: Nightcrawler on January 09, 2013, 06:22 am
Not that this is really helpful, but I tried for several hours to get Thunderbird to work on my Mac/Airport Extreme. Never did get it. I use Tor Mail - Squirrel mail.
I don't even remember why I wanted Thunderbird in the first place.

I've got it working on a MacBook Pro, running Lion (OS X 10.7.5) and it runs perfectly. You have to ensure that you have made the changes per the Tormail help page, and then made the changes I listed above, to the Tor Browser Bundle configuration.  The Tor Browser Bundle must be up and running (you'll see the Vidalia icon in the Dock) for Thunderbird to work with Tormail accounts.

Some people prefer to have their email stored on their own machines; this is one reason to run Thunderbird.

Nightcrawler <Nightcrawler@SR>
PGP-Key: 4096R/BBF7433B 2012-09-22
Key fingerprint = D870 C6AC CC6E 46B0 E0C7 3955 B8F1 D88E BBF7 433B
http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=174.msg633090#msg633090
Title: Re: thunderbird tormail mac help btc reward
Post by: ragemyfaceoff on January 09, 2013, 06:40 am
I also struggled with this for three or four days straight and finally got it to work mainly with the help of this post...Here are my settings in case you are still struggling...

1. Open the Vidalia Control Panel --> Settings --> Advanced --> Uncheck "Configure ControlPort Automatically" --> click OK
     It should show "Address: 127.0.0.1 : 9051". Restart Tor. The address will remain 9051, and NOT change to 9050

Now open Thunderbird...

2. In the config editor filter type in network.proxy.socks_remote_dns and change it to true by double-clicking (preferences --> advanced --> general --> config editor...)

3. Go to preferences --> advanced --> network & disk space --> settings...
    Click manual proxy configuration:
    HTTP Proxy: 127.0.0.1 Port 8118
    SSL Proxy: 127.0.0.1 Port 8118
    Socks Proxy: 127.0.0.1 Port 9050
    SOCKS v5!!!!
    Click OK

4. Go to --> "create a new account" and enter your name, email address (username@tormail.net), and password, set the protocol as IMAP

5.  Under the "Mail Account Setup" window for this account:

Server Settings
     Server name: jhiwjjlqpyawmpjx.onion
     Port 143
     Connection security: None
     Authentication method: Password, transmitted insecurely

Outgoing Server (SMTP)
add a new server if you have to with the settings...
     Server name: jhiwjjlqpyawmpjx.onion
     Port: 25
     username: (your username) --> this step probably isnt necessary but just in case
     Connection security: None
     Authentication method: Password, transmitted insecurely

Press OK

Once you go to get mail it will ask you for your password but it should work this time


Edit: after typing this up I realized I can only RECEIVE mail not send it so if you figure that part out it be great if you'd let me know what you did!!
Edit Edit: Finally got everything working perfectly, see my post below
     
Title: Re: thunderbird tormail mac help btc reward
Post by: ragemyfaceoff on January 09, 2013, 06:51 am
Yes it is strange. When I try to send a message I get the error message:

Sending of message failed.
The message could not be sent because the connection to SMTP server smtp.tormail.net was lost in the middle of the transaction. Try again or contact your network administrator.

For whatever reason it appears that thunderbird is still trying to connect to the smtp.tormail.net server rather than the jhiwjjlqpyawmpjx.onion even though I have it set to the .onion server...
Title: Re: thunderbird tormail mac help btc reward
Post by: ragemyfaceoff on January 09, 2013, 06:57 am
Problem fixed!!

Under the Outgoing Server (SMTP) Tab make sure the ONLY server name you have in the box is the one in my previous post...

 Server name: jhiwjjlqpyawmpjx.onion
     Port: 25
     username: (your username) --> this step probably isnt necessary but just in case
     Connection security: None
     Authentication method: Password, transmitted insecurely

Title: Re: thunderbird tormail mac help btc reward
Post by: Nightcrawler on January 09, 2013, 07:15 am
Problem fixed!!

Under the Outgoing Server (SMTP) Tab make sure the ONLY server name you have in the box is the one in my previous post...

 Server name: jhiwjjlqpyawmpjx.onion
     Port: 25
     username: (your username) --> this step probably isnt necessary but just in case
     Connection security: None
     Authentication method: Password, transmitted insecurely

+1 Congratulations for sticking with it. Many people would have given up before this.

Nightcrawler <Nightcrawler@SR>
PGP-Key: 4096R/BBF7433B 2012-09-22
Key fingerprint = D870 C6AC CC6E 46B0 E0C7 3955 B8F1 D88E BBF7 433B
http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=174.msg633090#msg633090
Title: Re: thunderbird tormail mac help btc reward
Post by: bowfly007 on January 09, 2013, 04:02 pm
OMG finaily got it to work (well some) after 5 days my wife was going nuts at me thanks for the posts....
only problem now is cant send out emails i can receive them but not send
i will try as posted also my i test my key with some one pls 
Title: Re: thunderbird tormail mac help btc reward
Post by: BlueGiraffe on January 09, 2013, 04:03 pm
To send encrypted messages bluegiraffe


http://32yehzkk7jflf6r2.onion/tormail/tormail01.png
doesn't  work sir am still trying and trying

TextEdit plus GPG plus copy/paste. So simple...

And no shit lying around on your computer...

Think you should send me huge amounts of BTC just for diverting you out of the stream you are trying to go down ;)

BG





Title: Re: thunderbird tormail mac help btc reward
Post by: bowfly007 on January 09, 2013, 04:12 pm
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Title: Re: thunderbird tormail mac help btc reward
Post by: bowfly007 on January 09, 2013, 04:40 pm
can any one reply to my encryption to see if its right pls
Title: Re: thunderbird tormail mac help btc reward
Post by: putabirdonit on January 09, 2013, 05:40 pm
We would need the private key to decrypt your messages...
Title: Re: thunderbird tormail mac help btc reward
Post by: BlueGiraffe on January 09, 2013, 07:50 pm
Yeah, but to whom is it encrypted??
Title: Re: thunderbird tormail mac help btc reward
Post by: putabirdonit on January 09, 2013, 10:51 pm
If it is encrypted with his public key or any other public key only the matching private key can decrypt it...

Edit: If you look on the page before, he has posted a public key and two encrypted messages. There is no way these messages can be decrypted without the matching private key.
Title: Re: thunderbird tormail mac help btc reward
Post by: Nightcrawler on January 10, 2013, 01:34 am
can any one reply to my encryption to see if its right pls

You misunderstand how the process works.  When two parties want to communicate securely,  the exchange public keys.  For example, you give me your public key, which I use to encrypt messages to you, and I give you my public key, which you use to encrypt messages to me.  (A link to my public key can be found in my .sig).

Each of us uses our private key halves to decrypt the messages encrypted with our public keys.  Naturally, you guard the private half of your PGP key more closely than you do your credit card or your wallet full of cash.

Nightcrawler <Nightcrawler@SR>
PGP-Key: 4096R/BBF7433B 2012-09-22
Key fingerprint = D870 C6AC CC6E 46B0 E0C7 3955 B8F1 D88E BBF7 433B
http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=174.msg633090#msg633090
Title: Re: thunderbird tormail mac help btc reward
Post by: bowfly007 on January 10, 2013, 03:37 pm
Ok il try again here we go

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Title: Re: thunderbird tormail mac help btc reward
Post by: spazzmatrazz on January 10, 2013, 04:15 pm
Ok il try again here we go
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Title: Re: thunderbird tormail mac help btc reward
Post by: bowfly007 on January 10, 2013, 04:23 pm
shit man sent wrong key sorry heres mine now


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Title: Re: thunderbird tormail mac help btc reward
Post by: bowfly007 on January 10, 2013, 04:29 pm
spazzmatrazz i need your public key first before i can decrypt a  message
Title: Re: thunderbird tormail mac help btc reward
Post by: BlueGiraffe on January 10, 2013, 05:43 pm
spazzmatrazz i need your public key first before i can decrypt a  message

Only if the message is signed. But generally you don't...

BG
Title: Re: thunderbird tormail mac help btc reward
Post by: BlueGiraffe on January 10, 2013, 05:56 pm
Encrypted to your public key. Unsigned...

BG



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