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Discussion => Security => Topic started by: synthex on December 27, 2012, 03:35 am

Title: New to PGP/SR
Post by: synthex on December 27, 2012, 03:35 am
Hello SR community,
im interrested in some products to buy, but im a beginner. it seemed simple from the start but the more i read into PGP and such the more confused i become. so far i can tell, i can buy bitcoins directly from bitcoinnordic.com and as soon as i pay up they will be deposited into my sr account.
my first question regarding this, am i right about this method?
secondly, where the hell do i find my own PGP key??
i am using GnuPG as far i know, and i doesnt know how to receive nor send messages properly. could you guys test me out?



best regards,
synthex (-:
Title: Re: New to PGP/SR
Post by: peeweed on December 27, 2012, 04:00 am
I imported your key to my pgp client, and wrote the message below, you and I are the only ones that will be able to decrypt it.

I use a simple PGP client based on a forum members guide: http://32yehzkk7jflf6r2.onion/gpg4usb/

The guide is really easy and informative, Thanks Astor!.  Personally I like this client because it is simple, it doesn't e-mail messages it just encrypts and decrypts... you have to copy/paste/type messages in and out.  No install and easy, great for a USB drive!.  You don't need e-mail to communicate on SR, you can use the site messaging (encrypt the messages).  The guide covers how to get your private key with the app mentioned, not sure about yours.

The key to understanding PGP imho... only the people you select (aka use their public keys like you posted) can decrypt and read the message.  Knowing someones public key is obvious critical to writing a message.  You DO NOT have to have the public key of the sender.  As long as they encrypted the message with your public key you will be able to read it.

NEVER give out your private key

Not sure what the exact protocal is around here for creating a public key with a real/used email address even if its tormail... You could use a completely fake e-mail address in your public key if you wanted.  Because you put your public key on this site, I now might know your tor mail address.  You loose a bit of control of that address, right now I personally use a fake email in my PGP key... if I want someone to email me via my tormail account, I will send my address in an encrypted message:)





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Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (MingW32)

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-----END PGP MESSAGE-----
Title: Re: New to PGP/SR
Post by: astor on December 27, 2012, 07:26 am
Hello SR community,
im interrested in some products to buy, but im a beginner. it seemed simple from the start but the more i read into PGP and such the more confused i become. so far i can tell, i can buy bitcoins directly from bitcoinnordic.com and as soon as i pay up they will be deposited into my sr account.
my first question regarding this, am i right about this method?

It's not a good idea to mention your exchange, or the fact that you're sending direct to an SR address. If you're buying coins under your real identity and you don't send them through a mixing service, that's a security threat. All bitcoin transactions are recorded in the block chain. If someone can identify that bitcoin address as belonging to an SR account, they can link it back to you.

If you haven't transferred coins to your SR account yet, you should send them through a mixing service. If you have already transferred coins to your SR account, I suggest you delete this thread.


secondly, where the hell do i find my own PGP key??
i am using GnuPG as far i know, and i doesnt know how to receive nor send messages properly. could you guys test me out?
heres my pgp key (I BELIEVE)

gpg: key A8100891: public key "synthex <synthex@tormail.org>" imported
gpg: Total number processed: 1
gpg:               imported: 1  (RSA: 1)


Your key is valid.

But if you're on Windows and still confused by PGP, read my tutorial: http://32yehzkk7jflf6r2.onion/gpg4usb/

Title: Re: New to PGP/SR
Post by: synthex on December 27, 2012, 08:52 pm
so... the one i linked is my private key?  oops d-:
is that so bad?

where is the public key then? i have noticed you have something else written, like
-----BEGIN PGP MESSAGE-----
----END PGP MESSAGE-----
whats the difference?


astor, im working my way through your gpg4usb tutorial now, and will return when properly set.
i havent transferred coins yet, since im not fully educated
Title: Re: New to PGP/SR
Post by: synthex on December 27, 2012, 08:55 pm
about the bitcoins, why shouldnt someone buy bitcoins directly to their SR account?
Title: Re: New to PGP/SR
Post by: synthex on December 27, 2012, 09:03 pm
think i found my public key  ;D

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anyone wanna try?
Title: Re: New to PGP/SR
Post by: synthex on December 27, 2012, 09:39 pm
peeweedd,
tried to decrypt your message but it said:

decryption failed.
no secret key

no private key with id (numbers?) present in keyring
Title: Re: New to PGP/SR
Post by: WinterMoon on December 27, 2012, 09:59 pm
@synthex

Peeweed is not online.  Can you read this?

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Title: Re: New to PGP/SR
Post by: synthex on December 27, 2012, 10:16 pm
hey moon,

i could read your message, but can you read this? (-:

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Title: Re: New to PGP/SR
Post by: WinterMoon on December 27, 2012, 10:25 pm
Yes, I can read the message so you are technically good to go.

However, if you want people to be able to respond back to you it is a good idea to include your key in the message. 

Please post another message for me here.  This time, please do it like this:

Compose the message on your Clipboard
Right click your public key
Select Append to Message

These steps will print your public key below your message and make it easy for people to send you an encrypted reply.

I will be here for a while ... you can do it!!
Title: Re: New to PGP/SR
Post by: synthex on December 27, 2012, 10:30 pm
aight, here we go! lets hope i got it right d-:

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Title: Re: New to PGP/SR
Post by: WinterMoon on December 27, 2012, 10:40 pm
You are an excellent student, synthex.  Good job!

You have accomplished two things with the last lesson:
1) Vendors will not curse you if they need to encrypt a message to you
2) If your vendor saves your key to their keyring they will also have your email address in case SR goes down

A few more tips for you, free of charge:  Research your vendors carefully.  Copy their public keys and their Tor mail addresses in case SR goes down.  Don't buy from a vendor who does not use PGP. Do not FE.  Use your real address when dealing with SR vendors.  The Road goes down from time to but so far, it always comes back up. Avoid panic, stay stocked up and don't abandon your IRL contacts.

Good luck, enjoy the Road!
/wm  :-*
Title: Re: New to PGP/SR
Post by: peeweed on December 27, 2012, 10:53 pm
peeweedd,
tried to decrypt your message but it said:

decryption failed.
no secret key

no private key with id (numbers?) present in keyring

Glad you got things sorted...

I think the reason why you were unable to decode was because you changed your private key from the first post to the second a few down.

Just fyi changing your keys is sort of like changing your email address, you have to let everyone know:) (well at least the people you want to talk to lol).

Here is the same message encoded with your new key (for even more practice ha):

-----BEGIN PGP MESSAGE-----
Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (MingW32)

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=axxe
-----END PGP MESSAGE-----

Title: Re: New to PGP/SR
Post by: synthex on December 27, 2012, 11:01 pm
@moon
it was an honor !
as for the tips, i already had that in mind when i joined (-:

thanks, atleast im on the right track.
Title: Re: New to PGP/SR
Post by: synthex on December 27, 2012, 11:05 pm
@peeweed

i dont have your public key (-: