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Title: Gays on SR
Post by: Pillows on December 26, 2012, 04:47 pm
just curious
Title: Re: Gays on SR
Post by: microboilie on December 26, 2012, 05:10 pm
straight myself, despise homophobia.
Title: Re: Gays on SR
Post by: AnonymousAddict on December 26, 2012, 05:14 pm
Straight..Thoughts on it..... Whatever floats your boat
Title: Re: Gays on SR
Post by: astor on December 26, 2012, 05:26 pm
just curious

Bi-curious? :)
Title: Re: Gays on SR
Post by: Secretive on December 26, 2012, 06:07 pm
I'm straight but I love the gays. Some of the best friends and wingmans you could ever have.

Secretive
Title: Re: Gays on SR
Post by: blink-420 on December 26, 2012, 06:46 pm
What the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little bitch? I’ll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Navy Seals, and I’ve been involved in numerous secret raids on Al-Quaeda, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in gorilla warfare and I’m the top sniper in the entire US armed forces. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of spies across the USA and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You’re fucking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that’s just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the United States Marine Corps and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little “clever” comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn’t, you didn’t, and now you’re paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it. You’re fucking dead, kiddo.

you sir, are a douchebag
Title: Re: Gays on SR
Post by: Pillows on December 26, 2012, 07:06 pm
just curious

Bi-curious? :)

 8)
Title: Re: Gays on SR
Post by: Pillows on December 26, 2012, 07:10 pm
What the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little bitch? I’ll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Navy Seals, and I’ve been involved in numerous secret raids on Al-Quaeda, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in gorilla warfare and I’m the top sniper in the entire US armed forces. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of spies across the USA and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You’re fucking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that’s just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the United States Marine Corps and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little “clever” comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn’t, you didn’t, and now you’re paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it. You’re fucking dead, kiddo.

wait i don't get it
Title: Re: Gays on SR
Post by: Krazys on December 26, 2012, 08:25 pm
You are forcing the trans crowd into a square hole, round peg situation.  ;)
Title: Re: Gays on SR
Post by: TheGoodSon on December 26, 2012, 08:39 pm
What the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little bitch? I’ll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Navy Seals, and I’ve been involved in numerous secret raids on Al-Quaeda, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in gorilla warfare and I’m the top sniper in the entire US armed forces. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of spies across the USA and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You’re fucking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that’s just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the United States Marine Corps and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little “clever” comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn’t, you didn’t, and now you’re paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it. You’re fucking dead, kiddo.

Gorilla Warfare huh? Nice
Title: Re: Gays on SR
Post by: sweetbro on December 26, 2012, 08:41 pm
on xmas eve i did some good coke from the road and ended up out-ting myself to my friend of 20 years over the phone abut my sexuality, tattoos, sexual history with men, and especially transgenderism.

he was supportive and all but coke was 100% the reason i did this and not even mdma produced such an intense confidence, willingness and eagerness to ring him up after months of no contact and blurt it out on the phone.. the stuff is like a truth serum!

scary time but what the hell  ill move on from this and its probobly a good thing but as the sober days continue i do wish i hadnt told him and reinstated the friendship.. gotta put up some serious boundaries with my responses to his now plethora of questions now..
Title: Re: Gays on SR
Post by: fuckingACE on December 26, 2012, 08:49 pm
What the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little bitch? I’ll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Navy Seals, and I’ve been involved in numerous secret raids on Al-Quaeda, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in gorilla warfare and I’m the top sniper in the entire US armed forces. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of spies across the USA and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You’re fucking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that’s just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the United States Marine Corps and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little “clever” comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn’t, you didn’t, and now you’re paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it. You’re fucking dead, kiddo.

wait i don't get it

it's some silly copy and paste quote from another site.
9gag ftw!!
Title: Re: Gays on SR
Post by: Razorspyne on December 26, 2012, 09:29 pm
Straight and kinky. Like to cuddle. Like to kiss. Like to do a lot actually.

Does anyone here know how to auto-report this idiot DPRs Mom? He's a spammer. Possibly the same loser behind the BTCshop spams.
Title: Re: Gays on SR
Post by: BlarghRawr on December 26, 2012, 10:17 pm
You are forcing the trans crowd into a square hole, round peg situation.  ;)
At least they've got a round peg instead of a square one. I'd be telling them to see a doctor if it was the other way around.

But yeah, let's get some trans up there.
Title: Re: Gays on SR
Post by: fuckingACE on December 26, 2012, 11:26 pm
Staight, but I enjoy attention off anything with a pulse  ::) Doing something about it is an entirely different game though. Rox is bi tho
ACE
Title: Re: Gays on SR
Post by: Mr. Fluffles Schrodinger on December 26, 2012, 11:30 pm
Voted bi, but since my name is Mr., does that make me a transgenderite?

Was surprised at the low number of votes for bi, must not be a lot of girls here.  Almost every girl I know is at least "bi".
Title: Re: Gays on SR
Post by: fuckingACE on December 26, 2012, 11:55 pm
Voted bi, but since my name is Mr., does that make me a transgenderite?

Was surprised at the low number of votes for bi, must not be a lot of girls here.  Almost every girl I know is at least "bi".

I got really fucked on MDMA once and kissed another guy, does that count lol
Title: Re: Gays on SR
Post by: Razorspyne on December 27, 2012, 12:23 am
I got really fucked on MDMA once and kissed another guy, does that count lol

I got really fucked on thin air once and twice went to bed with guys, does that count lol

(I'm going to delete this post tomorrow.  :-[  )

(Didn't actually do anything, I just didn't know how to say "no")
Title: Re: Gays on SR
Post by: fuckingACE on December 27, 2012, 12:35 am
I got really fucked on MDMA once and kissed another guy, does that count lol

I got really fucked on thin air once and twice went to bed with guys, does that count lol

(I'm going to delete this post tomorrow.  :-[  )

(Didn't actually do anything, I just didn't know how to say "no")
LOL I´m pretty sure that one pushes you towards the Bi grouping. God I dont think I could ever do that..How did you ever get out of that one? like your in bed with the guy, how do you tactfully explain whilst being groped that the reason you are there is actually because you have a difficulty being assertive and not because you want your cavities explored.. you need to learn to say no dude before someone misinterprets silence as consent to bad bad things...
ACE
Title: Re: Gays on SR
Post by: Razorspyne on December 27, 2012, 01:07 am
LOL I´m pretty sure that one pushes you towards the Bi grouping. God I dont think I could ever do that..How did you ever get out of that one? like your in bed with the guy, how do you tactfully explain whilst being groped that the reason you are there is actually because you have a difficulty being assertive and not because you want your cavities explored.. you need to learn to say no dude before someone misinterprets silence as consent to bad bad things...
ACE

It wasn't LOL at the time let me assure you. I just moved him away from my crotch and said I wasn't really into oral sex and that I was tired so would he mind if I went to sleep? He said sure sweetheart and I was, uh-oh, I should really try to leave or something in the morning because there was a slight lost in translation thing (long story. Long, uncomfortable story).

I still don't think that makes me bi because it was sort of an accident, I didn't intend to be in that situation, it just kind of evolved and it's a very long story.

The other time, we ran out of room to sleep and I couldn't be bothered walking home (15-20 minute walk and I was dead tired from partying). But then he kicked me out lol. So I just went to the living room, and then virtually got kicked out of there as well as my flat mate decided he didn't want to face his wife in the morning.

Basically though, if given a choice, I prefer women. Just seems to work out better.
Title: Re: Gays on SR
Post by: BruceCampbell on December 27, 2012, 01:17 am
I think this question was already asked before. And I don't care if you're a turtle if you have bitcoins.
Title: Re: Gays on SR
Post by: kitkat82 on December 27, 2012, 01:29 am
Straight..Thoughts on it..... Whatever floats your boat

+1  I hate homophobia

Title: Re: Gays on SR
Post by: TheGoodSon on December 27, 2012, 02:00 am
I don't see the point of this thread.

We're all here because we're like minded. It doesn't matter if you're gay/bi/tgwhatever, if you've got a good product or money to spend, you're a part of the community.

Fashion it like the Hacker Community; if you have knowledge and/or are eager to learn something, you're accepted regardless of orientation, race, religion, or any other prejudicial column.

Threads like this lead to contempt among members. You may have thought you were doing something bold here, but not everyone is open minded.

*Disclaimer: TheGoodSon is not homophobic, they merely seek to caution users that well intentioned admissions can have unintended repercussion*
Title: Re: Gays on SR
Post by: Razorspyne on December 27, 2012, 02:28 am
on xmas eve i did some good coke from the road and ended up out-ting myself to my friend of 20 years over the phone abut my sexuality, tattoos, sexual history with men, and especially transgenderism.

he was supportive and all but coke was 100% the reason i did this and not even mdma produced such an intense confidence, willingness and eagerness to ring him up after months of no contact and blurt it out on the phone.. the stuff is like a truth serum!

One of my [edit. as astor pulled post], and that was how she [edit. as astor pulled post], while high on coke. I believe she never would have revealed it otherwise.

Dude that's always been like a red flag for a bull for me. I had this anti-sexual assault speech prepared today, then some mod must have deleted the thread so it was wasted. Oh well. Perhaps it is for the best.............
Title: Re: Gays on SR
Post by: TrashBox on December 27, 2012, 07:26 am

Threads like this lead to contempt among members. You may have thought you were doing something bold here, but not everyone is open minded.


This is true bc if I found out any of my favorite vendors or forum members were homophobes they would surely lose my business. Just like Chi-fil-A did.

Title: Re: Gays on SR
Post by: TrashBox on December 27, 2012, 07:32 am
Voted bi, but since my name is Mr., does that make me a transgenderite?

Was surprised at the low number of votes for bi, must not be a lot of girls here.  Almost every girl I know is at least "bi".

I'm a girl and I chose "straight".  I gave it the old college try, tho, and I occasionally like to get extra affectionate with my girlfriends but I still consider myself straight.
Title: Re: Gays on SR
Post by: joywind on December 27, 2012, 07:59 am
Not only am I NOT a homosexual, but I believe that homosexuality is a disease. I don't care what fags do in the privacy of their own home, just stay away from children and don't be 'open' about your disgusting life style when you're among healthy heterosexual individuals (i.e. no slobbering over each other in public, holding hands, acting effeminate, etc). The homosexual community is a plague that is responsible for the rapid growth of AIDS and other venereal diseases in the 1980s
Title: Re: Gays on SR
Post by: Razorspyne on December 27, 2012, 09:08 am
Not only am I NOT a homosexual, but I believe that homosexuality is a disease. I don't care what fags do in the privacy of their own home, just stay away from children and don't be 'open' about your disgusting life style when you're among healthy heterosexual individuals (i.e. no slobbering over each other in public, holding hands, acting effeminate, etc). The homosexual community is a plague that is responsible for the rapid growth of AIDS and other venereal diseases in the 1980s

My guess is, you're going to get a lot of flack for that statement. You can't couch something in those terms.

Dude that's always been like a red flag for a bull for me. I had this anti-sexual assault speech prepared today, then some mod must have deleted the thread so it was wasted. Oh well. Perhaps it is for the best.............

I don't follow. She did go through a lesbian phase but then she got married and had a kid and then got divorced. Haven't talked to her in a few years. Wasn't really a close friend, but when you go out and do coke, you tend to hang out with a certain crowd that you wouldn't hang out with normally. Like, the only reason you hang out is because everyone does coke. Yeah, that's why we hung out, but that's what made her confession more bold, we weren't best friends or anything. It was the coke.

I meant that the mere mention of rape is enough to set me off like a red flag would a bull. I hate that shit, and hate the scum who do that to women because a) no one will have sex with them and b) they're too weak to fight men so they target women instead. I just saw a rather sick clip today that I didn't intend to as I did not realise the content until I'd seen half of it (you could hear her bleeding internally as the blood was splashing around inside her). All I could think of doing was finding this sick turd and ramming my dick up his ass again and again and again and again again and again and again and again, then sexually mutilating him, and then setting him on fire. The stupid idiot even showed his face clearly throughout the whole4 or 5 minutes. Shouldn't be too hard to find if you were a cop.I seriously though about becoming LE today because I thought maybe I would have a chance to stop some of it. I'm conflicted. I don't know what I should do about it.

I've already talked a bit about this topic in a previous post, but that thread was deleted over Christmas by either a mod or the OP. (Still have the post but I don't see the point in repasting it.Everyone on the thread seemed to get the message.)

Hope your friend is now doing okay. I also hope this bastard got caught, but I'm assuming that's sadly not the case.
Title: Re: Gays on SR
Post by: BlarghRawr on December 27, 2012, 09:33 am
I just saw a rather sick clip today that I didn't intend to as I did not realise the content until I'd seen half of it (you could hear her bleeding internally as the blood was splashing around inside her).

WTF, you saw that by accident?
I can believe it. I saw... a shock-site video by accident and didn't realize what it was going to be until the visuals had already caused a mild traumatic response in me. ... It is really sad that here on SR, we are full of love for each other and loathing for that kind of shit... but the rest of the world still calls us evil, because of the drugs.
Title: Re: Gays on SR
Post by: warmkitty on December 27, 2012, 09:40 am
I don't see the point of this thread.

We're all here because we're like minded. It doesn't matter if you're gay/bi/tgwhatever, if you've got a good product or money to spend, you're a part of the community.

Fashion it like the Hacker Community; if you have knowledge and/or are eager to learn something, you're accepted regardless of orientation, race, religion, or any other prejudicial column.

Threads like this lead to contempt among members. You may have thought you were doing something bold here, but not everyone is open minded.

*Disclaimer: TheGoodSon is not homophobic, they merely seek to caution users that well intentioned admissions can have unintended repercussion*

I agree with TheGoodSon discussing things like this has the potential to be divisive - cyberspace should be one place where your sexuality should be a non topic.
Title: Re: Gays on SR
Post by: BlarghRawr on December 27, 2012, 09:49 am
I don't see the point of this thread.

We're all here because we're like minded. It doesn't matter if you're gay/bi/tgwhatever, if you've got a good product or money to spend, you're a part of the community.

Fashion it like the Hacker Community; if you have knowledge and/or are eager to learn something, you're accepted regardless of orientation, race, religion, or any other prejudicial column.

Threads like this lead to contempt among members. You may have thought you were doing something bold here, but not everyone is open minded.

*Disclaimer: TheGoodSon is not homophobic, they merely seek to caution users that well intentioned admissions can have unintended repercussion*

I agree with TheGoodSon discussing things like this has the potential to be divisive - cyberspace should be one place where your sexuality should be a non topic.
... Eh, I'm happy to see people expose themselves as bigots. It just tells me who to avoid.
Title: Re: Gays on SR
Post by: Razorspyne on December 27, 2012, 10:27 am
WTF, you saw that by accident?

Yes. I was looking at sex videos on the internet earlier today through curiosity (I was not even horny, I just appreciate beauty) and the clip had a nondescript title like "pretty brunette" or something in a nondescript section like "babes" or something. The previous clip was fairly tame. I clicked on it thinking it would be okay, but it wasn't. Although I think that this is a really, really, really bad idea and should be illegal because it can promote it, some clips depict rough sex and even pretend rape. It can sometimes be hard to judge rape from pretend rape because some models agree to these clips. (If it had mentioned what it was in the title I would not have clicked on it.)

Because of this it took me about 2 minutes to realise she wasn't acting and that the shithead was getting rougher and rougher. Then I heard the blood, saw the body language that I have observed before (if you've been in a situation like that you know it instantly) saw the subtle physiological indicators on her body, and knew it immediately. I couldn't think of anything else but finding this piece of shit.

I saved the page so I can find it again. I still don't know what to do. I'm tempted to tell the police but I don't know what country he is in (probably U.S. from accent) and if it would make a difference. I'm still deciding.

It's a lot more common than you think. Well, maybe not you, but most people. I've come to realize that.

Dude it doesn't matter how prevalent something is, we can't let these sick phucs get away with it. If you know someone who has done this, the only thing that will cure them is to return the favour. This is not vigilantism. I do not advocate that as it can sometimes get out of hand. It's just that some males are too thick to reason with and the only thing they'll understand, and respect, is tough treatment. Unlike you or I (assuming from one of your posts) they haven't learned to debate in uni and won't get the message any other way. If you see someone or know someone like this, please, take a handful of mates, some chloroform, some rope, some baseball bats, and some nasty equipment and do what you have to.

Glad you friend is in a good place.  8)

As for whether this thread is derisive, I think it's okay because of how far we've come. Imagine hosting this thread in the 1960s! Most people on this thread so far have been pretty supportive and open-minded, so I don't think it's an issue these days to ask a question like this.
Title: Re: Gays on SR
Post by: BlarghRawr on December 27, 2012, 10:48 am
Dude it doesn't matter how prevalent something is, we can't let these sick phucs get away with it. If you know someone who has done this, the only thing that will cure them is to return the favour. This is not vigilantism. I do not advocate that as it can sometimes get out of hand. It's just that some males are too thick to reason with and the only thing they'll understand, and respect, is tough treatment. Unlike you or I (assuming from one of your posts) they haven't learned to debate in uni and won't get the message any other way. If you see someone or know someone like this, please, take a handful of mates, some chloroform, some rope, some baseball bats, and some nasty equipment and do what you have to.

I understand your passion, but this happened to her when she was 16 and I met her when she was 19. She never told me the name, but I know he was never prosecuted. It's a tough situation. You can't just accuse someone more than 10 years after the fact. That's shitty, but the way it is.
Not everything illegal(murdering confirmed rapists) is wrong, not everything legal(allowing confirmed rapists to go free because of the statute of limitations) is right.

I'm sorta taking that to the extreme, though.
Title: Re: Gays on SR
Post by: geeza23 on December 27, 2012, 10:52 am
straight here, but really not fussed about those around me either unless they're one of those full on in your face LGBT protesters then that might be a bit too full on for me to handle
Title: Re: Gays on SR
Post by: Razorspyne on December 27, 2012, 11:07 am
I just saw a rather sick clip today that I didn't intend to as I did not realise the content until I'd seen half of it (you could hear her bleeding internally as the blood was splashing around inside her).

WTF, you saw that by accident?
I can believe it. I saw... a shock-site video by accident and didn't realize what it was going to be until the visuals had already caused a mild traumatic response in me. ... It is really sad that here on SR, we are full of love for each other and loathing for that kind of shit... but the rest of the world still calls us evil, because of the drugs.

TY for being human. +1 (Lol, I clicked "thank" and your Karma jumped 2 places instead of one. Must be popular today.) Not removing my avatar  >:(  , but it's comforting to know there are decent people out there. Imagine what could be achieved if LE focused on the right areas, and just forgot about drugs for a minute. Surely there are worse criminals out there? According to my Hate File there certainly are. Also, try doing something about the alcohol violence problem if you're reading this. A former top cop wants to legalise ecstasy as he thinks it's not as bad as it's made out to be be; maybe you should follow his example. I should buy that former cop a beer for that sentiment, but he's a cop, so that won't ever happen, he is NEVER gonna party wit me.

Also nomad bloodybath, if you are reading this and you think Raz is too hardcore, can you tell me to edit before deleting because when a pist is deleted I take it personal. Or whatever you prefer. I mean, you ARE the mod.

Piece out. Drive safely.

Wait........................

"Warning - while you were typing a new reply has been posted. You may wish to review your post."

Yes that's okay astor, I meant, in the future, IF you see something, and IF you have a bunch of guys around at the time, don't hold back. These people are making it unsafe for people to walk at night and also make males look bad. They're the reason girls cover up, they're the reason girls stay at home, they're the reason we males stand to lose when girls just stop giving guys the benefit of the doubt and think we're all the same. They make ALL of us look bad and we ALL have to pay a little each time it happens as society starts to shut down males. Again, I don't advocate vigilantism (FYI, that's how the Cosa Nostra began. They guarded people's houses during an epidemic of violence and house lootings. They charged a price and protected someone's property and to get their name out there, they were particularly vindictive to anyone foolish enough to attack an owner/propert under their protection. They soon became feared. They expanded into other areas and changed their name to mafiosa (mafia) to further protect their identity and the rest is how they say history. I'm going on old information here but this is pretty much the bones of it to my memory.); sometimes you are in the right place at the right time and it almost seems as if it's calling out for you to set it straight. If that's the case, don't show mercy, just do it.If I lived near you, I'd gladly help you out on this.

Piece out. Drive safely.

Wait........................

"Warning - while you were typing 2 new replies have been posted. You may wish to review your post."

Sheesh, again? TY  BlarghRawr.

Third time lucky...... Piece out. Drive safely.
Title: Re: Gays on SR
Post by: astor on December 27, 2012, 11:10 am
Sorry I hijacked this thread. Carry on :/
Title: Re: Gays on SR
Post by: BlarghRawr on December 27, 2012, 11:29 am
Not removing my avatar  >:(
I'm glad you remember me. :)
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but it's comforting to know there are decent people out there. Imagine what could be achieved if LE focused on the right areas, and just forgot about drugs for a minute.
Not just the right areas, but the right types. Some dealers ARE bad, not matter how good things are. Some folks are just plain scum no matter what you do.
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Surely there are worse criminals out there? According to my Hate File there certainly are. Also, try doing something about the alcohol violence problem if you're reading this.
You even give an example, without focusing on drugs like I have.
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A former top cop wants to legalise ecstasy as he thinks it's not as bad as it's made out to be be; maybe you should follow his example.
I'm in with that, I think if one follows the scientific advice, one shall never be hurt by miss Molly.
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I should buy that former cop a beer for that sentiment, but he's a cop, so that won't ever happen, he is NEVER gonna party wit me.
{snip}
"Warning - while you were typing 2 new replies have been posted. You may wish to review your post."

Sheesh, again? TY  BlarghRawr.

Third time lucky...... Piece out. Drive safely.
You too, man. :)
Title: Re: Gays on SR
Post by: Razorspyne on December 27, 2012, 11:59 am
Cheers.  8)

lol astor. You just deleted your own post.  :-\
Title: Re: Gays on SR
Post by: Krazys on December 29, 2012, 09:09 pm
I don't care what fags do in the privacy of their own home, just stay away from children and don't be 'open' about your disgusting life style
I am cool with that actually. As long as we apply the same standards to hetro people.
Title: Re: Gays on SR
Post by: Scampony on December 29, 2012, 09:17 pm
wow great attitudes...i love both the boys and girls. ;)
Title: Re: Gays on SR
Post by: gambino on December 29, 2012, 09:39 pm
Almost twice as many bi as gay, ATM.  Kind of surprised about that.  Not that there's anything wrong with that.  :)
Title: Re: Gays on SR
Post by: ZenAndTheArt on January 01, 2013, 10:58 pm
I'm Bi. I'm constantly surprised at the amount of times people tell me there's no such thing a bi-sexuality, and it's mainly gay people who've said this to me. No big deal though, I feel no need to prove anything to anyone. :)
Title: Re: Gays on SR
Post by: wavelength on January 01, 2013, 11:18 pm
im bi. i dont think its anything to be bashful about and anyone thats against homosexuality is close minded/raised on religious views that they dont know the origin of. if you cant understand why someone would be gay or bi, i feel sorry for you. there are obviously attractive sides to both men and women, or they wouldnt fuck eachother -__-. not to supply too much info but im not really attracted to the entire male organism, nor could i picture myself in a relationship with one, but there is nothing wrong with submitting/breaking down your ego and accepting sexual connection no matter the form. its always nice to connect to another human being.

women make me want to just wrap my arms around them and keep them safe. like im there big strong man that will always protect them(cheezy but true). with men its the other way around. i submit and embrace my weakness to them.(im sure this is freaking the homophobes way the fuck out!)

i think a more interesting question would be to ask sexual preference and drug of choice to see if people have grown to accept aspects of their sexuality that they wouldnt have other wise, because of the substances they use. (i cant lie, ive had psychedelic experiences in which i have experienced very homosexual thoughts that are normally unnatural to me, but it didnt bother me. you should always embrace your desires and keep an open mind IMO.)
Title: Re: Gays on SR
Post by: loniax on January 01, 2013, 11:38 pm
I dont care as long as Im not being touched, or talked to sexualy.
Title: Re: Gays on SR
Post by: ZenAndTheArt on January 01, 2013, 11:58 pm
69% Straight? For some reason I'd expected that to be higher. 

+1 Wavelength

Title: Re: Gays on SR
Post by: DenoyerGeppert on January 02, 2013, 12:21 am
Saw this thread, and then went to log into the road and the capcha was "queer981"

Not sure what this means...
Title: Re: Gays on SR
Post by: lucidity9292 on January 02, 2013, 01:01 am
Gay boy here :P

I'm not going to act any less effeminate or be less affectionate with my partner because it disgusts some people.  I'm happy living my life, and I'm not losing any sleep over who is offended by my orientation.
Title: Re: Gays on SR
Post by: serialfapper on January 02, 2013, 01:55 am
Yes. I was looking at sex videos on the internet earlier today through curiosity (I was not even horny, I just appreciate beauty) and the clip had a nondescript title like "pretty brunette" or something in a nondescript section like "babes" or something. The previous clip was fairly tame. I clicked on it thinking it would be okay, but it wasn't. Although I think that this is a really, really, really bad idea and should be illegal because it can promote it, some clips depict rough sex and even pretend rape. It can sometimes be hard to judge rape from pretend rape because some models agree to these clips. (If it had mentioned what it was in the title I would not have clicked on it.)

In normal life I am passive person. Aged 26 years I havent done anything sexual. What I have done is held hands. From young age I had fantasy of rape. Nothing turns me on so much. I have had interest in deviant pornography since young age. I know that something is wrong with me. It is not normal to be this way. If I had choice I would not choose to have these desires. I do not know why I am this way.

I have had opportunities to do bad things to people. With no fear of being caught. I have had opportunities for things most accept but that take advantage of people. Once some pretty girl was drunk. She wanted to have sex with me. I did not because she did not know what she was doing. The next day she said me she did not remember what happened before.

You want to punish me for fantasy. Rape pornography did not cause me desire to rape. Rape pornography did not cause me to rape. Fantasy is not reality. Implying both are same is saying it doesnt matter if I rape or not. I think this is not true.
Title: Re: Gays on SR
Post by: Razorspyne on January 03, 2013, 03:16 pm
Yes. I was looking at sex videos on the internet earlier today through curiosity (I was not even horny, I just appreciate beauty) and the clip had a nondescript title like "pretty brunette" or something in a nondescript section like "babes" or something. The previous clip was fairly tame. I clicked on it thinking it would be okay, but it wasn't. Although I think that this is a really, really, really bad idea and should be illegal because it can promote it, some clips depict rough sex and even pretend rape. It can sometimes be hard to judge rape from pretend rape because some models agree to these clips. (If it had mentioned what it was in the title I would not have clicked on it.)

In normal life I am passive person. Aged 26 years I havent done anything sexual. What I have done is held hands. From young age I had fantasy of rape. Nothing turns me on so much. I have had interest in deviant pornography since young age. I know that something is wrong with me. It is not normal to be this way. If I had choice I would not choose to have these desires. I do not know why I am this way.

I have had opportunities to do bad things to people. With no fear of being caught. I have had opportunities for things most accept but that take advantage of people. Once some pretty girl was drunk. She wanted to have sex with me. I did not because she did not know what she was doing. The next day she said me she did not remember what happened before.

You want to punish me for fantasy. Rape pornography did not cause me desire to rape. Rape pornography did not cause me to rape. Fantasy is not reality. Implying both are same is saying it doesnt matter if I rape or not. I think this is not true.

This is where we're going to have one of those nice little chats like I did last time before you pulled the thread. You're right of course. Rape pornography does not cause someone to desire to rape, in the same way that someone firing a 12-gauge point blank at someone does not cause them to die, rather it is the shell and the fact they were standing in the way. I think this is a really weak argument here as wanting to watch girls brutally raped, beaten up and psychologically traumatised for the rest of their lives evidence of somebody's intention of acting when this dumb fuck actually gets with a girl. Look, I have posted so much on rape (including the posts you deleted) I feel you have no right to come back on these forums and justify it.

If this is the kind of thing that turns you on, I trust you won't have any objection if I did the same to you? Yeaaaah, see, that's what I thought. I don't know whether you are sick and need help because you honestly believe it's great to see someone suffer, or  whether you are sick and need help because you actually know it is wrong, but are trying to change a correct attitude about something to a wrong attitude by phrasing it in such a way that you believed will open up debate about it. No one here cares how you phrase it. Rape is wrong, is wrong, is wrong. Which you must actually know deep down as if I came over to your house with some deadbeat guys and tied you up and gave you the option to say no, you absolutely would. I don't see many rapists putting up their hand to be raped in return.

Look. Fuck off. I'm tired of dealing with you. You don't watch rape unless you want to do that yourself. Obviously, if you are watching it, you like the idea of it because you are a dumb fuck and fantasise about doing it to others.  Obviously, if you are  because you are a dumb fuck and fantasising about doing it to others you are much more likely to do it.

I was wrong about you. I thought we had cleared this up. EVERYBODY, E V E R Y B O D Y, tried to tell you. They wasted their time. And if someone like TreeSpirit couldn't get through to you, you have no hope. So....... because you deleted my posts but still haven't got the message, I see you are in need of more reinforcement.

The following is for serialfapper and does not concern anyone else, hence, can be skipped entirely if you are not him or some other sick phuc. (God. No wonder you "have never had a girl". You don't deserve one you piece of shit, but what you DO deserve is to have the shit raped out of you.)

Why it's probably a bad idea to rape (you fucking idiot)

[Edit. Primarily addressed to OP. If you are not, you need not read the following.]

If the OP is reading this, I notice you have not posted beyond 1 after this thread, and not used your account. I figured you read the replies, felt unpopular, and decided to kre-8 a new username. And that you wish you hadn’t added that thing at the end.

If this is the case and you are following this thread in cognito, you should probably take it as a good thing that so many have replied with their advice because now you have a chance to contemplate this before actually doing something similar. A bruise to the ego now is better than looking over your shoulder for the rest of your life, trust me.

One of the most horrific sexual assaults happened after a young woman was mugged at an ATM in Geelong. After robbing about $150 from her, he brutally raped her, the details of which I will preclude from this post for obvious reasons. She was taken to hospital unrecognisable as she was covered from head to toe in her own blood. Hospital staff said that if she hadn’t gotten to hospital the moment she had she would have bled out (died from her wounds). She can never have children, and needs to feed with a colostomy bag/catheter (her bowels were prolapsed).

The piece of unmitigated faeces that did this shaved his head and burnt his own fingerprints off in an effort to avoid being found. If memory serves correct, he was also wearing a hoodie at the time of the attack which hid his head, but let me reacquaint with the facts to confirm. They eventually caught him within a year. The turd is currently serving time in prison, no doubt under hostile conditions (rape included) and will not be released any time soon.

More recently, Jill Meagher, raped and murdered in September, was last observed by a very badly positioned camera inside a shop that didn’t even capture her or her attacker’s face fully (additionally, he was wearing a hoodie) as there was a bar on the shop door that got in the way. Despite this very limited clue, Victoria Police were able to find the attacker within a week, despite the fact he had driven her body well away from the crime scene (they found the buried body first). I am cheerful to say, he will stand trial in January 2013. And that cabbie that saw a young woman passed out from drinking on the street and who decided to opportunistically rape her while not even conscious? Despite the fact she did not see his face, I am cheerful to say he has been caught, charged, and also awaiting sentencing.

I could cite a third example where police caught someone for a depraved sexual assault after the case had gone cold (perp now in prison ;) ), and where they had to take away a whole section of the wall – at considerable difficulty – for analyses, but I think you get the message. Rest assured, police are literally able to move mountains when they want to. If you rape somebody, and are found (and let me assure you, gambling on 5-0 not finding you is something you don’t want to do), you will most likely face prison time. If that happens, a bare 1 year behind bars is sometimes more than enough time to be considerably abused mentally, physically and sexually. There is no justice in prison, and even if you do find the courage to speak up and risk even greater violence, wardens will either not believe you or not even care. And regardless of how tough you are, there are always at least 100 bigger, tougher, meaner, more evil guys than you. Trying to match wits with police by raping someone but being very careful not to be found out is……………… sheer stupidity.

Take this as a warning. It is a good thing that you added what you did because if you had kept it to yourself and went ahead and did it, and got caught, which you will, and go to prison, which you will, as a 17 year old in prison you will be absolutely fucked without mercy for the first whole week, as everyone wants to be first on account of new prisoners having a tighter sphincter because it is as yet unprolapsed, and without a doubt essentially destroyed in every way you can imagine. By the time you get out you will be incapable of living life normally for the rest of your life.

I don’t know the methods police use to find people. What I do know is that, when they really want to find someone, they always do.

Don’t be mad at everyone here who gave you hard-to-take advice. In reality, you should be thanking us.

Now that you’ve got the message, I guess my work here is done. I assume I can let this topic go? This thread could probably be justifiably locked at some point, as it’s served its purpose.

Piece out. Drive safely. Eat plenty.

[I have kept explicit details from this post as the full details would probably make some a little queasy, which is to be expected. They are available upon further research. Do not ask me where on the internet or in the media to find it. Some information is best kept off the forums as some sick phucs out there could try to imitate these people. Then again, there is specific information that could benefit SR users, like ML and drug-ferrying techniques, that should probably STILL be kept off the forums as vendors and buyers are not the only ones viewing SR material. Consider giving this kind of detailed information over PM to trusted members, or encrypting it before posting it one the forums. If LE want to read it, they need the key. If keys are given out individually, this should fix the problem.]

btw, why were 5 of my posts deleted over Christmas????

OP referred to is you btw. Since you deleted my post when you found criticism too hard to take, I can't refer to it. But you're obviously very, very slow with understanding.

And don't hijack this thread and turn it into a rape vs normal contest. Just cross-reference search rape + me and I'm sure my posts will guide you. Or maybe not. I don't want to talk about this sad issue anymore. Get the message. Watching rape is not okay. Do some research. According to police a civilian is more likely to rape based on the fact that they regularly watch this material.

Just do us all a favour and piss off. You're a kid (17). You're one year from being an adult. Also one year from being TRIED as an adult. If you go to prison at your age, it's over for you. And don't think you won't get caught if you do some research.

Can we all go back to the original question? This thread was supposed to be about whether you were straight, gay or bi. And maybe why, if you're up to talking about it.
Title: Re: Gays on SR
Post by: master_of_coin on January 03, 2013, 03:55 pm
I used to watch rape porn and fantasize about it. I even planned out how I would do it. I ended up visiting a prostitute instead (I was a virgin) and the urge went away completely. I'm disgusted in myself now and feel so ashamed of what I could have done.

I am seeing a psychologist to try and deal with my shame and disgust.

Edit: I'm straight but I've had fleeting thoughts of having gay sex.
Title: Re: Gays on SR
Post by: kmfkewm on January 03, 2013, 04:08 pm
Not that I want to take this thread further off topic than it already is starting to go, but I feel as if I should weigh in my opinion regarding the last two posts. First of all, I do not think that rape pornography causes people to desire to rape. People who are not sexually aroused by the thought of rape are going to find rape pornography extremely disgusting, people who are aroused by the thought of rape are going to find rape pornography arousing. My opinions on rape pornography are pretty much the same as they are on child pornography, both are sought out because of an already existing desire and neither cause new desires. In the case of child pornography, numerous studies have shown that its availability negatively correlates with the prevalence of child molestation. Other studies show that the availability of abusive pornography has a negative correlative relationship with sexual abuse. I do not at all think it is an honest analogy to compare rape pornography : rape with firing a shotgun at someone point blank : murder. Firing a shotgun at someone point blank has a clear causative link to murder, there is a negative correlative relationship between the availability of rape pornography and sexual assault. 

Second I agree that there is a clear distinction between fantasy and reality. Studies have shown that > 1/3rd of males have fantasized about raping someone and additionally the fantasy of being raped is quite common for females. If your claim that fantasy is evidence of intention was true it would mean that a large percentage of females have the desire to be forced to engage in sexual intercourse without their consent and against their will. Just food for thought. There is also ample evidence that a desire to rape has been genetically encoded into large percentages of males, even more than 1/3rd. It is called the evolutionary theory for rape and I believe it is the theory that makes by far the most sense, although it is quite controversial due to its implications. Essentially, for most of human existence rapists were very difficult to catch, and mothers life preserving abortions and contraceptives were unheard of. This meant that rapists produced far more offspring than non-rapists. The implication of this is that if there is any genetic component that predisposes someone to desire rape, it is going to be a very common gene. Of course, as the proponents of the evolutionary theory of rape (ie: scientists) are quick to point out, this does not excuse rape at all. Humans are intelligent and self controlling beings, not slaves to their primal desires. 

Third of all, you act as if someones viewing of images is equal to perpetrating the acts they see in those images. This is extremely nonsensical. The poster you reply to has said that he does not think images of rape should be illegal, not that he thinks it should be legal for him to rape whoever he wants. Additionally you claim that you don't watch rape unless you want to do that yourself, however a substantial percentage of the market for rape fantasy pornography consists of females, whom as I already mentioned quite commonly fantasize about being raped. I do agree though that a person who fantasizes about rape is statistically much more likely to rape someone than a person who does not have such fantasies, after all a great many rapists fantasize about rape prior to actually raping anyone. However taking this claim at face value is misleading yourself, someone who has been sexually abused is statistically far more likely to sexually abuse another person than someone who has not been sexually abused is, however only a minority of those who have been sexually abused go on to sexually abuse others.

I agree with you entirely that it is absolutely not okay for anyone to force another person to have sex with them against their will. However I see that you are blurring two entirely different issues together into one issue: rape fantasy and actual rape. This is most likely some emotional response and it is not doing you any good actually. I see that people do the same exact thing when it comes to child pornography actually, they equate child pornography possession as being the same thing as child molestation for some reason. To a rational mind there is a clear difference between these things though. 
Title: Re: Gays on SR
Post by: master_of_coin on January 03, 2013, 04:17 pm
I see that people do the same exact thing when it comes to child pornography actually, they equate child pornography possession as being the same thing as child molestation for some reason. To a rational mind there is a clear difference between these things though.

There's even a difference there. To have child porn somebody has to have been exploited and abused.
Title: Re: Gays on SR
Post by: kmfkewm on January 03, 2013, 04:35 pm
I see that people do the same exact thing when it comes to child pornography actually, they equate child pornography possession as being the same thing as child molestation for some reason. To a rational mind there is a clear difference between these things though.

There's even a difference there. To have child porn somebody has to have been exploited and abused.

Yes  there is a difference there. Most non-child rape pornography is fantasy, most child pornography is actually documented child abuse. However, I believe that no information should be outlawed and that includes real rape pornography as well as child pornography. The dangers of legalization of possession of these forms of pornography are vastly exaggerated, the actual evidence shows that criminalization of possession of these forms of pornography is more damaging to society than their legalization would be, and indeed that the criminalization of these sorts of pornography is counterproductive to the stated goals of those who are in favor of their criminalization.
Title: Re: Gays on SR
Post by: kmfkewm on January 03, 2013, 04:54 pm
okay last post on this subject from me (maybe) as it is off topic in this thread. But I like to post citations to prove that I am right:

Rape is the third most popular female fantasy: www.care2.com/causes/rape-ranked-as-third-most-popular-sexual-fantasy-for-women.html

up to 40% of females have rape fantasies: http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/women-who-stray/201012/the-rape-fantasy

the evolutionary theory of rape: (is included in this .PDF , along with other popular theories, such as the feminist theory that males are part of a global conspiracy to keep them down : www.pandys.org/theoriescoercion.pdf)

violent movies have negative correlative relationship with violence and pornography has negative correlative relationship with rape: http://www.slate.com/articles/arts/everyday_economics/2006/10/how_the_web_prevents_rape.html

pornography has a negative correlative relationship with rape (according to one article cited here, another claims the opposite): http://calcasa.org/prevention/what-is-the-influence-of-pornography-on-rape/

pornography consumption versus rape rates graphic: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Zillmann_Fig_5.png

from wikipedia, it mentions the citation at first:

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McKibbin et al. (2008) argue that there may be several different types of rapists or rape strategies. One is rape by disadvantaged men who cannot get sex otherwise. Another is "specialized rapists" who are more sexually aroused from rape than from consensual sex. A third type is opportunistic rapists who switches between forced and consensual sex depending on circumstances. A fourth type is psychopathic rapists. A fifth type is partner rape due to sperm competition when the male suspects or knows that the female has had sex with another male. There are varying degrees of empirical support for the existence of each of these types. More generally they mention research finding that at least one-third of males "admit they would rape under specific conditions" and that other surveys find that many men state having coercive sexual fantasies.





Title: Re: Gays on SR
Post by: Ahoyhoy on January 03, 2013, 06:01 pm
I happily receive reciprocal sexual attention in whatever form it may manifest itself from whomsoever or whatsoever proposes it.
Title: Re: Gays on SR
Post by: AnonymousAddict on January 04, 2013, 03:54 am
Who cares what floats their boats.. Worry about yourselvs, stop judging other people. is my thoughts.. If gays and Lesbo's wana do it by all means let them do whatever they can in this life type and in this world to be happy.. Just like we do drugs and are looked down on it like scum of the earth, but yet this site,these forums alone prove and show there are sooo many smart , Kind people on here. We do drugs mainly to make us happy and deal with the everday stress, its our choice, i dont see a thing wrong with it.. As for the Gays, Le the damn people do whatever it is that keeps them sane and happy in this world, Im not gay 1 bit, but these are my thoughts, and to anyone gets on here telling them their going to hell cause the bible said this and that take that book and use the papper out of it to roll joints..LOL.. Half of it is wrong, contradicting and soo many other things, That whole book has soo many Pagan rituals in ir irs rediculas, But yet now in america they bash gays? But in the bible, when it was easter time that was when the men and women would paint their face and do sexual acts to men and women, I may post a bunch of jokey shit on the other threads, but im a very intelligent deep person, I have studied  Symbolism, ancient geometry all religions and many other things, so im not just shooint words out my mouth that sound good.. I come from a family of Freemasons, My grandfather is a 32degree Scottish rite so i know plenty of things not your every tom dick and harry dont know..I DO NOT MEAN IM SMARTER THAN ANY 1 CAUSE I AM NOT! but iv studied religions,symbloism and many other thangs for a very long time and once on the oath iv shosen to travel your eyes open up and u see things a fully different way..Some of this may be over your heads, but i know many of you on here a re very very smart and i wish we could some times get together catch a buzz and just buikd on one another and enlighten each other.. Nuff said for me.. I went a little off topic but hope it makes since to some... /G\.
Title: Re: Gays on SR
Post by: Limetless on January 04, 2013, 04:41 am
Who cares?  :-\
Title: Re: Gays on SR
Post by: TrashBox on January 04, 2013, 05:10 am

i think a more interesting question would be to ask sexual preference and drug of choice to see if people have grown to accept aspects of their sexuality that they wouldnt have other wise, because of the substances they use. (i cant lie, ive had psychedelic experiences in which i have experienced very homosexual thoughts that are normally unnatural to me, but it didnt bother me. you should always embrace your desires and keep an open mind IMO.)

I would be very interested it what people have to about this :)
Title: Re: Gays on SR
Post by: Razorspyne on January 04, 2013, 05:34 am
I'm disappointed that someone can cite the amount of evidence (cite not quote) and still reach those conclusions, kmfkewm, even when beautifully constructed as above. I would love to know where this information is sourced from. Additionally, perhaps we should distinguish rape from force. Also, it seems that there's a slight interpretation issue of a couple points in my post as well. Finally, I'm not the type of person who will suffer themselves to be called 'confused' so let's clear a few things ^.

The poster you reply to has said that he does not think images of rape should be illegal, not that he thinks it should be legal for him to rape whoever he wants.

Nope. He didn't actually. You said that, not him. (FYI: 'serialfapper' is an urban colloquial term for 'serial masturbator')

I do not at all think it is an honest analogy to compare rape pornography : rape with firing a shotgun at someone point blank : murder. Firing a shotgun at someone point blank has a clear causative link to murder, there is a negative correlative relationship between the availability of rape pornography and sexual assault. 

I was being sarcastic. I inferred that firing a 12-gauge point blank at someone DOES cause them to die, and that arguing over the semantics of whether the pinpoint cause of death resulted from the finger pulling the trigger, or the spread velocity of over 1500 fps of shrapnel into someone's brain, was tantamount to the triviality of feeling the need to distinguish a moral line between rape and fantasy rape.

I don't FULLY agree with the statements......

First of all, I do not think that rape pornography causes people to desire to rape. People who are not sexually aroused by the thought of rape are going to find rape pornography extremely disgusting, people who are aroused by the thought of rape are going to find rape pornography arousing. My opinions on rape pornography are pretty much the same as they are on child pornography, both are sought out because of an already existing desire and neither cause new desires. In the case of child pornography, numerous studies have shown that its availability negatively correlates with the prevalence of child molestation. Other studies show that the availability of abusive pornography has a negative correlative relationship with sexual abuse.   

Gee I think it would be naive to assume that viewing rape pornography has a zero cause and effect correlation to perpetrating it, even if the other statements are logical. Do you really assume that regular viewing of techniques used and jilted psychology of rapists shown quite graphically in films, non-tutorial of those methods and non-suggestive? It is. Its called 'auto suggestion'. Curious about......

......numerous studies have shown that its availability negatively correlates with the prevalence of child molestation. Other studies show that the availability of abusive pornography has a negative correlative relationship with sexual abuse.   

Very curious. In light of the fact case studies have shown the exact opposite.

You mentioned the notion that it is common for women to fantasise about being raped. Can't fault you on your information gathering on this point as it is very common, however I CAN fault you on your working definition of rape, which seems to mirror the common definition that some women hold. Seems a lot of women are confusing 'rape' with 'force', or rough sex, two very, very different things. I can wager my bottom dollar I could show a woman what rape REALLY means and ask her whether that is what she fantasised about and the answer would be "fuck no." I'm staggered no one seems to know the vast difference of these terms. I've fantasied about being aggressive. But I've never fantasied about beating her black and blue and rupturing her insides. If your 'fantasy' about rape doesn't include these kinds of elements, you're not doing it right. It would be classed as rough or assertive. In the first link you provided this is expounded on. So, your "food for thought" HAS been thought of but politely rejected on these grounds.

I'm moderately familiar with the gene theory, but you have discounted that with the scientists' logic so I'll move on.

Third of all, you act as if someones viewing of images is equal to perpetrating the acts they see in those images.

Nope. I didn't actually. Where did you pick up that idea? You need to focus a little more on what people are saying, I think, than jumping to a conclusion.

Additionally you claim that you don't watch rape unless you want to do that yourself, however a substantial percentage of the market for rape fantasy pornography consists of females, whom as I already mentioned quite commonly fantasize about being raped.

Already explained under the heading 'confusion over key terms'.

However I see that you are blurring two entirely different issues together into one issue: rape fantasy and actual rape. This is most likely some emotional response and it is not doing you any good actually.

First statement covered under the heading 'confusion over key terms'. As for the second, it's clear you don't know me well or you might protract that statement in light of casual observation. However, you are entitled to have an opinion of who or who has not have an "emotional response". Although I challenge the wisdom of implying that someone's natural aversion to a horrific subject unnatural, and someone's unnatural inclination to a horrific subject natural. That's backward.

............ You're welcome. ;)



"Warning - while you were typing 5 new replies have been posted. You may wish to review your post."

Yeah, that's how long it took me to mash the keys in my exhausted frame of mind, lol. No, I definitely do NOT WANT TO review my post. I'm a vet now. I don't check before posting.
Title: Re: Gays on SR
Post by: Razorspyne on January 04, 2013, 05:39 am
(((((((Trash Box)))))  ::)  ;) Long time no harass. :P
Title: Re: Gays on SR
Post by: kmfkewm on January 04, 2013, 09:39 am
I believe I can very quickly, logically and concisely reduce to absurdity your argument that fantasy and reality have an intrinsic link. I don't even need to show you the statistics on coercive pornography consumption and its relationship to coercive sexual activity , although I could do that as well.

A. A large percentage of females fantasize about being raped, a decent percentage of them frequently fantasize about this

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19085605

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This study evaluated the rape fantasies of female undergraduates (N = 355) using a fantasy checklist that reflected the legal definition of rape and a sexual fantasy log that included systematic prompts and self-ratings. Results indicated that 62% of women have had a rape fantasy, which is somewhat higher than previous estimates. For women who have had rape fantasies, the median frequency of these fantasies was about 4 times per year, with 14% of participants reporting that they had rape fantasies at least once a week. In contrast to previous research, which suggested that rape fantasies were either entirely aversive or entirely erotic, rape fantasies were found to exist on an erotic-aversive continuum, with 9% completely aversive, 45% completely erotic, and 46% both erotic and aversive.

B. Contrary to your claim, many females are not fantasizing about consensual rough sex, in fact they are fantasizing about being forced against their will to engage in sexual acts

http://www.questia.com/library/1G1-196534089/the-nature-of-women-s-rape-fantasies-an-analysis

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Kanin (1982) reported the only systematic empirical observations of rape fantasy content. He asked women to describe their rape fantasies and classify them as either sexual, fearful, or a combination of both. Kanin's results indicated that 50% of the women who had rape fantasies reported that these fantasies were completely fearful, 29% reported they were completely sexual, and 21% reported that they were a combination of fearful and sexual
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After reinterpreting participants' self-descriptions, Kanin (1982) concluded that women's rape fantasies fall into two discrete categories: sexual and fearful. In sexual fantasies, a woman is aggressively approached by an attractive man, who is typically a friend or lover. She gives only token verbal resistance, if any, to a desired sexual encounter. Kanin described these as highly charged, aggressive seductions. Thus, Kanin suggested that women's self-identified rape fantasies that involved sexual arousal should be thought of more as aggressive seductions rather than as rapes. In fearful fantasies, the man is likely to be older, less attractive, and a stranger; and the woman is more likely to see herself as an innocent victim. These fantasies contain coercive and painful violence and no sexual arousal. Kanin did find systematic differences between fearful and sexual fantasies, but there was also considerable overlap with regard to the man's status as a friend or stranger, male age, male attractiveness, and perceived female innocence.

extrapolating from these two studies, it seems fair to estimate that approximately 48% of females fantasize about being 'coerced and violently raped'.

C. As it is inherently contradictory to wish for something to actually happen to yourself that you do not wish to happen, it is impossible. As I have established that almost half of females fantasize about being violently forced to engage in sex against their will, it therefor follows that a persons fantasies are not intrinsically linked to a persons desires in reality.

In other words, no matter how frequently a female fantasizes about being forced to engage in sex against her will, it is impossible for this fantasy to cause her to have a desire to be forced to engage in sex against her will, as such a desire is contradictory to the very goal of being forced without consent. It is therefor impossible for a female to condition herself with rape fantasy in such a way that the fantasy bleeds over to her desires in reality. I believe that although the case can not be made as strongly for males who fantasize about raping (ie: I can not show that it is literally impossible for there to be a link between fantasy and actions in reality), that the general theme of fantasy and reality being different things will hold.
Title: Re: Gays on SR
Post by: Ahoyhoy on January 04, 2013, 11:40 am

i think a more interesting question would be to ask sexual preference and drug of choice to see if people have grown to accept aspects of their sexuality that they wouldnt have other wise, because of the substances they use. (i cant lie, ive had psychedelic experiences in which i have experienced very homosexual thoughts that are normally unnatural to me, but it didnt bother me. you should always embrace your desires and keep an open mind IMO.)

I would be very interested it what people have to about this :)

I started a thread which asked this very question. Will bump it as seemingly it may yet have legs.