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Title: Warning .... CanadianLTD is MtlJohn
Post by: fredflintstone on December 18, 2012, 08:50 pm
I have been following the CanadianLTD account for about a week now and it has become obivous to me that CanadianLTD is MTLJohn/QC_m39_king

1. always online

2. slashed prices from 600 to 475 on brown mdma, exactly what he said he was threatening to do before he got banned as MtlJohn

3. feedback all from grams

4. december 13th I witnessed the following

qc m39 king posts a message in the canadianltd thread ... canadianltd is offline  qc goes offline ... canadianltd comes online a minute later

notaspacecase also noticed this

5. bigbill tried to place orders with him. they were all cancelled. odd lol

6. On December 13 at 12:50 canadianltd logs off. At 12:51, stylesvor account created. stylesvor posted a question on his thread and they went back and forth chatting, each logging off as the other one logs on.


7. satan_himself and big poppa shilling for him. satan_himself posts a comment about his good weed prices, gets called out, never returns lol.

8. The products he lists are cocaine and MDMA. MtlJohn was putting out feelers for selling cocaine before he got banned.

9. december 15th ... qcm39 posts threats in the big bill thread, logs off, canadianLTD is online instantly. qc then posts in the mrouid thread, canadianltd is offline, comes back on at 4:28 and qcm39 is back offline. throughout the night he bickered on the bigbill thread .. switching between the canadianltd and qcm39 account

just to be 105% sure I posted a message for qc in the mrouid seizure thread .. sure enough canadianltd logged out, qcm39king logged in, replied, logged out and canadian ltd was back online

10. he posts incessantly on the forums, bumps his topics


11. his spelling and grammar are both atrocious ( who'se ? lol, retard )


12. mtljohn recently confessed he stole my 1300BTC. these types of people shouldnt be allowed to setup new accounts even if they do plan to do clean business through it. he stalks people on facebook, threatens their families, post addresses on the forums  ... what more needs to be said
 

Post from the MrOuid thread ---- "  btw.. I was not going to tell you but because you are starting in on me i might as well.... The shipping company called me last week,, seems your package was dropped behind a recycle bin. i picked it up.  :D :D :D and thanks to you and your big mouth i have an extra 11k to throw into my rrsp.....  :) "

13. As MtlJohn he also condoned off SR dealing and is a general scumbag

" anyways.. fuck that scsmmer... I have no quakms now about dealign off srr.. if dpr can be such a rat to let him back after all the proof then dpr deserves to get screwed.... by letting ouid back he shows that dpr is just needy of mrouid and his sales... i guess it was a monsy thing but i tell you if someone wnats to deal off escrow why not??

i mean if mrouid can do it and admit it and get away with it... why can I..

anyways... i just smached his prices again...

lets see what happens now!.

John


MtlJohn is CanadianLTD. This should be looked at by the admins.
Title: Re: Warning .... CanadianLTD is MtlJohn
Post by: Dankbank1 on December 18, 2012, 09:09 pm
Ohh good evidence too I think hes busted. Watch for him guys
Title: Re: Warning .... CanadianLTD is MtlJohn
Post by: abby25 on December 18, 2012, 09:19 pm
Wow, this John guys sounds like a dick....
Title: Re: Warning .... CanadianLTD is MtlJohn
Post by: NOTspacecase on December 18, 2012, 09:21 pm
It doesn't take much to notice these guys are the same person if you pay attention to what's going on, sadly most won't. I know he will just come in here, post some smart ass remark thinking this proves nothing but do some research and judge for yourselves if you care enough, it's blatantly obvious and who wants to do business with a scum bag like this anyways.
Title: Re: Warning .... CanadianLTD is MtlJohn
Post by: Bradypizza on December 18, 2012, 09:22 pm
Thanks for the heads up.
Title: Re: Warning .... CanadianLTD is MtlJohn
Post by: fredflintstone on December 18, 2012, 11:05 pm
I really think this guy needs to go.
Maybe someone can forward this to support.
He admits he found my 11.5k package, but that he no longer will send it because he doesnt like me lol.

He ruined his rep, ripped people off and then just paid $150 more and got a new rep.
Thats not right
Title: Re: Warning .... CanadianLTD is MtlJohn
Post by: rocko71 on December 19, 2012, 12:52 am
All his alts are sofa king obvious... he's bleating in some thread about m39 again.
Title: Re: Warning .... CanadianLTD is MtlJohn
Post by: rocko71 on December 19, 2012, 01:03 am
Well, I just hope people remember that when prices seem too good to be true they usually are. That, and NEVER EVER FINALIZE EARLY not even once. Stick to the second rule and the worst you can suffer is having your time wasted.
Title: Re: Warning .... CanadianLTD is MtlJohn
Post by: fidocscentral on December 19, 2012, 01:07 am
Put on blast...  8)
Title: Re: Warning .... CanadianLTD is MtlJohn
Post by: Harmful Hits on December 19, 2012, 02:47 am
I always try to be positive and say good things about people but when it comes to MTLJohn all I can say is ..... he is a pedophile and if you purchase from him you can be sure that some of the money will go towards horrible things
Title: Re: Warning .... CanadianLTD is MtlJohn
Post by: Rhaegar on December 19, 2012, 03:43 am
Thank you for the heads up. With more than on person verifying this who is obviously not one person, I feel this doesn't have to be independently investigated. Hope people get this message. I think there needs to be some kind of bad vendor petition where if enough people sign it then the vendor is perma banned, no questions asked. I dont know just a thought.
Title: Re: Warning .... CanadianLTD is MtlJohn
Post by: astor on December 19, 2012, 03:58 am
That is some stellar detective work.
Title: Re: Warning .... CanadianLTD is MtlJohn
Post by: CanadianLTD on December 19, 2012, 04:05 am
I have been following the CanadianLTD account for about a week now and it has become obivous to me that CanadianLTD is MTLJohn/QC_m39_king

1. always online

2. slashed prices from 600 to 475 on brown mdma, exactly what he said he was threatening to do before he got banned as MtlJohn

3. feedback all from grams

4. december 13th I witnessed the following

qc m39 king posts a message in the canadianltd thread ... canadianltd is offline  qc goes offline ... canadianltd comes online a minute later

notaspacecase also noticed this

5. bigbill tried to place orders with him. they were all cancelled. odd lol

6. On December 13 at 12:50 canadianltd logs off. At 12:51, stylesvor account created. stylesvor posted a question on his thread and they went back and forth chatting, each logging off as the other one logs on.


7. satan_himself and big poppa shilling for him. satan_himself posts a comment about his good weed prices, gets called out, never returns lol.

8. The products he lists are cocaine and MDMA. MtlJohn was putting out feelers for selling cocaine before he got banned.

9. december 15th ... qcm39 posts threats in the big bill thread, logs off, canadianLTD is online instantly. qc then posts in the mrouid thread, canadianltd is offline, comes back on at 4:28 and qcm39 is back offline. throughout the night he bickered on the bigbill thread .. switching between the canadianltd and qcm39 account

just to be 105% sure I posted a message for qc in the mrouid seizure thread .. sure enough canadianltd logged out, qcm39king logged in, replied, logged out and canadian ltd was back online

10. he posts incessantly on the forums, bumps his topics


11. his spelling and grammar are both atrocious ( who'se ? lol, retard )


12. mtljohn recently confessed he stole my 1300BTC. these types of people shouldnt be allowed to setup new accounts even if they do plan to do clean business through it. he stalks people on facebook, threatens their families, post addresses on the forums  ... what more needs to be said
 

Post from the MrOuid thread ---- "  btw.. I was not going to tell you but because you are starting in on me i might as well.... The shipping company called me last week,, seems your package was dropped behind a recycle bin. i picked it up.  :D :D :D and thanks to you and your big mouth i have an extra 11k to throw into my rrsp.....  :) "

13. As MtlJohn he also condoned off SR dealing and is a general scumbag

" anyways.. fuck that scsmmer... I have no quakms now about dealign off srr.. if dpr can be such a rat to let him back after all the proof then dpr deserves to get screwed.... by letting ouid back he shows that dpr is just needy of mrouid and his sales... i guess it was a monsy thing but i tell you if someone wnats to deal off escrow why not??

i mean if mrouid can do it and admit it and get away with it... why can I..

anyways... i just smached his prices again...

lets see what happens now!.

John


MtlJohn is CanadianLTD. This should be looked at by the admins.

WELL HERE WE GO AGAIN WITH THIS GUY!

For starters here is a quote on my own thread:

Lol you guys crack me up - I never even knew about this mtljohn guy until i started getting accusations of being him - unfortunately I guess I just created an account at the wrong time on this website. I think it would be easy to prove I'm not simply by seeing how I ship out of Edmonton AB, and I guess if John did too im basically screwed for credibility, however I was gonna go on a rant to tell fred to get the fuck out of my threads but honestly... I'm here to sell drugs not get caught up in drama - youll NEVER have to FE on anything with me so seriously get off it. I wasn't gonna address this and hopefully just let it die out but honestly too many people have their tin foil hats on too tight on this site. I have had no idea about this John drama but it's following me on every thread I create. Believe what you want, but when you order with me you don't have to fe and you'll never be at risk for losing your coins - end of story.

On a side note - I read a thread right now where fred is accusing me of also being some satan_himself dude because this kid made a thread asking if there's feedback on me because I have really good "weed" prices. I don't even sell weed, and if that was my account, why would I make a ridiculous thread promoting a product on a shill that I don't even sell. I mean come on you guys, someone made a mistake on my product or something but get your head out of the clouds. Perhaps because we both sell MDMA out of Canada and I'm his competitor he is trying to ruin my name, but I haven't sunk to his level and I think he should really grow up. I know Fred has a lot of people who respect him on here and love his product, but jesus man get off my case please.

I've got 3 transactions with 100 % rating, and I have 15+ waiting to finalize. I'm not gonna bother answering to people accusing me of being some past dude on here who scammed a bunch of people (where could I even get with this, how could I even prove otherwise, like I said look where I ship from, but I'm guessing the retort to that is just gonna be that mtljohn moved to edmonton!), I am here to sell drugs and that's it. Purchase them and receive them with no problems - no fe - otherwise I'd appreciate it if you keep me out of the drama. You don't have to believe me, but when you deal with me I will treat you with respect and escrow will always have your back. Thanks.


NOW Ill address his points.

1. Seriously, this is evidence, not at all.

2. LOOK AT my picture, its white not brown, and since I slashed my prices I am now MTLJohn, you kidding me?

3. I have 15 transactions waiting to finalize, many are for 7g's, I am a new vendor, is it odd my first purcahses would be 1g?

4. Have no idea if this is true or not, it still means nothing.

5. I have NEVER cancelled an order, and NEVER received one from bigbill. Does bigbill care to comment on this? Because this is another new name I've never even heard of and would like to see if he really says he went to my vendor account and purchased an order.

6. Same as #4. Even if this was true, how does this make me MTLJohn?

7.Read my paragraph at the start regarding this accusation.

8. THIS IS A DRUG FORUM - I dont even sell coke, I was seeing if there was interest, like I will with many other drugs in the near future - I am a vendor after all.

9. I log on MULTIPLE TIMES a day, this has no validity.

10.  Yeah, guess what, when my post is at the top of the page, I receive more customers. Do you not understand that? How does that make me MTLJohn?

11. I wrote Who'se (How does that make me MTLJohn?)

12. This has nothing to do with me.

HOW IS ANY OF THIS EVIDENCE, SERIOUSLY THOUGH GUYS, READ HIS EVIDENCE, HOW IS THAT EVEN EVIDENCE.

STOP being mad because I'm stealing some of your customers for MDMA out of Canada. You are ridiculous.

Title: Re: Warning .... CanadianLTD is MtlJohn
Post by: CanadianLTD on December 19, 2012, 04:08 am
That is some stellar detective work.

How is any of that proper detective work?
I bump my thread?
I'm online a lot?
I slash my prices?
I have bad grammar like writing who'se?

Come on buddy, a judge would think that was ridiculous detective work.
Title: Re: Warning .... CanadianLTD is MtlJohn
Post by: CanadianLTD on December 19, 2012, 04:11 am
I find it very amusing that fred posted this:

"Both him and bigpoppa were very nice to talk to .. and maybe there is no ill will here, just inexperience ( like his listing saying Xpress - no signature ... when Xpresspost is ALWAYS signature )

Guys trying to take shortcuts shilling instead of waiting on reviews.

Who knows."


It's gone from this to "I'm sure he's MTLJohn."
If MTLjohn received a lot of orders, would he not have his shipping figured out yet? Would he REALLY be that confused about not understanding how xpresspost works? I have sent fred MULTIPLE questions and received replies. This wasnt some elaborate plan forseeing him accusing me of being MTLJohn, I didn't purposely tell a customer he didn't have to sign when I was confused and that in fact he did. Get real here, you're getting really lame with your accusations buddy, and I can't believe the mass following that blindly follows you, figures why religion is so successful and rampant.

Man MTLjohn is sure having a good laugh at this.
Like I said though, it boils down to one thing, are we here to dramatize - or do you want to receive drugs safely, and deal with a pleasant vendor.
You'll never have to FE, you'll always be safe.
End of story.


anyways... i just smached his prices again...

lets see what happens now!.


Here you have it folks - The real reason this guy is starting this shit.
Can't handle competition - clever way to get rid of it.

Do you guys know how many PM's I actually sent to fred getting his advice on how to properly be a vendor here?
I personally thanked him many times correcting mistakes I had made via PM including how he let me know xpresspost DOES require signature, which I wasn't aware.
He knows I'm not mtljohn, and I've sent him a pm to at least admit he's speculating and has no real evidence, but whatever, his plan to run me over and take the MDMA business alone out of Canada is working and you're just being his sheep.
Grats man, they say successful drug dealers are usually very intelligent people, and you have managed to mindfuck the whole SR community.
Title: Re: Warning .... CanadianLTD is MtlJohn
Post by: NOTspacecase on December 19, 2012, 04:12 am
John, you're like a god damn book written in bold print, so fucking easy to read...pfft  ::)
Title: Re: Warning .... CanadianLTD is MtlJohn
Post by: CanadianLTD on December 19, 2012, 04:15 am
John, you're like a god damn book written in bold print, so fucking easy to read...pfft  ::)

If anyone could think of something I could do to prove im not mtljohn I'd really appreciate it. I need to put an end to this.

WHO has received orders from him and where were they sent from?
I would be willing to bet he isn't coincidently from my same city.
I will go take a picture infront of a known landmark in my city with my silkroad name written somewhere, or WHATEVER idea someone could think of that I could do to 100 % prove I'm not him would be really appreciated.
Title: Re: Warning .... CanadianLTD is MtlJohn
Post by: CanadianLTD on December 19, 2012, 04:24 am
Also could you please follow up on point #4. where you said he posted on my thread? I have no recollection of talking to anyone with that name on a thread of mine - not saying its not true but I would like some proof of this.
Title: Re: Warning .... CanadianLTD is MtlJohn
Post by: CanadianLTD on December 19, 2012, 04:27 am
I am the LEAST dramatic person but am I seriously supposed to stand by and watch this guy make false accusations time and time after again? Is there nothing in the SR rules about falsely putting someone on blast day in and day out?
Title: Re: Warning .... CanadianLTD is MtlJohn
Post by: kitkat82 on December 19, 2012, 04:27 am
Would you mind sending a sample to someone to prove you are legit?
Title: Re: Warning .... CanadianLTD is MtlJohn
Post by: CanadianLTD on December 19, 2012, 04:29 am
Would you mind sending a sample to someone to prove you are legit?

I have 3 transactions that are 100 %, and FIFTEEN that are in escrow waiting to be finalized - all have been shipped out.
I do not request FE, am I missing something or does escrow not completely insure the buyer if the package is not received?
I send same day tracking #'s.
I don't get what the risk is.
Title: Re: Warning .... CanadianLTD is MtlJohn
Post by: kitkat82 on December 19, 2012, 04:33 am
I don't know man...maybe it is all a coincidence and once your orders arrive safely and are finalized the speculation will blowover.

I am impartial, I never paid much attention to MTLJohn, so I have no opinion in the matter.  You don't seem to type like he did, but again, I don't really remember many details about him.
Title: Re: Warning .... CanadianLTD is MtlJohn
Post by: CanadianLTD on December 19, 2012, 04:35 am
This just in: Fred is a shill of MTLJohns

1. He offers discounts
2. He is online often
3. He logs in and out around similar times to MTLjohns other account
4. he sells BROWN mdma (Wow big shocker here, as there is only 1 other color possible)
5. His prices are similar to other vendors including mtljohn!!!!
6. His grammar is mediocre!!!!!


THERE YOU HAVE IT FOLKS!
God I'm such a professional detective. you are warned!!!
Title: Re: Warning .... CanadianLTD is MtlJohn
Post by: NOTspacecase on December 19, 2012, 04:35 am
Even John is smart enough to use a re-shipper.

I'm done with this topic I have nothing more to say about it, you all know my opinion and I don't think anyone should do business with someone who openly admits to scamming, harvesting addresses, threatening to call LE and the list goes on....I'm done with this. Adios. 8)
Title: Re: Warning .... CanadianLTD is MtlJohn
Post by: CanadianLTD on December 19, 2012, 04:37 am
I don't know man...maybe it is all a coincidence and once your orders arrive safely and are finalized the speculation will blowover.

I am impartial, I never paid much attention to MTLJohn, so I have no opinion in the matter.  You don't seem to type like he did, but again, I don't really remember many details about him.

Dude honestly, I'm here to sell some fucken drugs. I dont require FE so you are protected.
This shit from fred has really ruined my day, and I can't believe how people are blindly agreeing.
I don't know why he's so butthurt, but It's getting really fucken old. Kudos on him though on trying to drive out a fellow Canadian MDMA supplier. I don't think it's a coincidence that he's the only guy bothering to start this rumor and not let it go - some of his business is going my way and he's not ok with it.
Regardless, I'm not going anywhere, and I look forward to getting feedback on my gear and getting some mutual friendships with my customers on here.

Even John is smart enough to use a re-shipper.

I'm done with this topic I have nothing more to say about it, you all know my opinion and I don't think anyone should do business with someone who openly admits to scamming, harvesting addresses, threatening to call LE and the list goes on....I'm done with this. Adios. 8)

If these things weren't said on my account, unfortunately you have ZERO proof that MTLJohn is me - this is 100 % speculation and that's all it can ever be.
End of story. Fredflintstone has succeeded on making it very hard for me to start a business on here, but you know what it will be slow and steady and I will build trust with my customers - I will never EVER ask anyone to FE on any product in the future - I will leave NO oppertunity for someone to risk their money.
Title: Re: Warning .... CanadianLTD is MtlJohn
Post by: tor12345 on December 19, 2012, 04:45 am
I feel terrible for the 15 real people who gave you their information.

The way you came on with the new account I thought it could not be you since you made such retarded mistakes. After seeing this thread it's obv you kid.
Title: Re: Warning .... CanadianLTD is MtlJohn
Post by: CanadianLTD on December 19, 2012, 04:48 am
I feel terrible for the 15 real people who gave you their information.

The way you came on with the new account I thought it could not be you since you made such retarded mistakes. After seeing this thread it's obv you kid.

Why is it obvious after this thread? Like you said why would I have made so many silly mistakes, come on.
I'm defending myself here, I ignored it and did research on threads to even figure out what the mtljohn drama was even about.
I can't ignore him making threads putting my name on blast, It's just brutal.
I get it, he's a very reputable guy on here, so he definitely has one up on me, who are you going to believe the regular or some new kid?
But let's get serious here, it boils down to having absolutely no real evidence just speculation, and I don't see how you could make a decission either way.
Let's just pretend and take my side for one moment, and lets just say that I am telling the truth and I am not MTLjohn, how would you go about handling what I've had to deal with? Seriously though, what else can I do other than participate in this drama and defend myself?
Title: Re: Warning .... CanadianLTD is MtlJohn
Post by: tor12345 on December 19, 2012, 05:05 am
It's just obv.

1. You both you the word "kid" in the same way. Maybe it's a Canadian thing?

2. You presumably live in the same area

3. You have similar writing styles

4. Your grammar is about the same

5. You spend the same amount of time online

6. You both bump threads relentlessly

7. You are trying to price cut Fred which is lol

8 You sought out Fred's thread at the beginning and got free advice from him which you likely saw as super sneaky and awesome

9. I'm sure there are other things but that is a quick list for ya.

Regarding your question of how I would eal with it. I would have handled my time on the forum in a completely different manner which would have entirely avoided the situation you now find yourself in. If I was magically transported into it I guess I'd create a new account and start over using better business practices. I'd also seek out professional help.
Title: Re: Warning .... CanadianLTD is MtlJohn
Post by: CanadianLTD on December 19, 2012, 05:12 am
It's just obv.

1. You both you the word "kid" in the same way. Maybe it's a Canadian thing?

2. You presumably live in the same area

3. You have similar writing styles

4. Your grammar is about the same

5. You spend the same amount of time online

6. You both bump threads relentlessly

7. You are trying to price cut Fred which is lol

8 You sought out Fred's thread at the beginning and got free advice from him which you likely saw as super sneaky and awesome

9. I'm sure there are other things but that is a quick list for ya.

Regarding your question of how I would eal with it. I would have handled my time on the forum in a completely different manner which would have entirely avoided the situation you now find yourself in. If I was magically transported into it I guess I'd create a new account and start over using better business practices. I'd also seek out professional help.

1. It would be a very common thing among people who grow up in the same country to use the same slang.
2. Canada is very large, Fred lives there too, is he MTLjohn?
3. I disagree, I read lots of his posts trying to figure out what the deal was, and he does not use punctuation the way I have from day 1.
4. Disagree again.
5. I just started a vendor account - I'm excited and online often,  how on earth does that relate to me being mtljohn.
6. I am trying to get my name out there and make sales - is this just a MTLjohn thing because I swear I've seen tons of vendors do it. I'll get many sources if you'd like.
7. huh?
8. Yes, I'm sure the real mtljohn needed freds advice on things like shipments - even though he had been in the business for a long time already. I'm sure he would have made the same shipping mistakes that I didn't understand on his new account - even though he has done this thousands of times.
9. Please entertain me and explain how any of that is even remotely close to leaving me as the one and only mtljohn. Man, can you seriously read that and tell me that is proper reasoning and evidence.

And saying you'd handle it different and avoid the situation - look at when fred first started posting these things - I completely ignored them, but they did not go away. It's just insane.

Your reasoning is complete crap, and I can't believe you think that this is hard enough evidence to go on my thread and tell people that they're not secure with the information they sent me. You should feel ashamed that that's all it took for you to falsely ruin someones reputation.
Title: Re: Warning .... CanadianLTD is MtlJohn
Post by: newjac on December 19, 2012, 05:17 am
Can't wait to see this guy's karma go to -100 again, lol
Title: Re: Warning .... CanadianLTD is MtlJohn
Post by: CanadianLTD on December 19, 2012, 05:20 am
Whatever, going to work out I've spent my whole afternoon with this crap.
Title: Re: Warning .... CanadianLTD is MtlJohn
Post by: kitkat82 on December 19, 2012, 05:27 am
Whatever, going to work out I've spent my whole afternoon with this crap.

Afternoon?  Where do you live?  Japan?
Title: Re: Warning .... CanadianLTD is MtlJohn
Post by: tor12345 on December 19, 2012, 05:40 am
I wish I could post a funny fail.jpg on here.
Title: Re: Warning .... CanadianLTD is MtlJohn
Post by: Festivalia on December 19, 2012, 05:47 am
 :-X [REDACTED]
Title: Re: Warning .... CanadianLTD is MtlJohn
Post by: CanadianLTD on December 19, 2012, 06:04 am

anyways... i just smached his prices again...

lets see what happens now!.


Here you have it folks - The real reason this guy is starting this shit.
Can't handle competition - clever way to get rid of it.

Do you guys know how many PM's I actually sent to fred getting his advice on how to properly be a vendor here?
I personally thanked him many times correcting mistakes I had made via PM including how he let me know xpresspost DOES require signature, which I wasn't aware.
He knows I'm not mtljohn, and I've sent him a pm to at least admit he's speculating and has no real evidence, but whatever, his plan to run me over and take the MDMA business alone out of Canada is working and you're just being his sheep.
Grats man, they say successful drug dealers are usually very intelligent people, and you have managed to mindfuck the whole SR community.
Title: Re: Warning .... CanadianLTD is MtlJohn
Post by: Festivalia on December 19, 2012, 06:13 am
 :-X [REDACTED]
Title: Re: Warning .... CanadianLTD is MtlJohn
Post by: CanadianLTD on December 19, 2012, 06:24 am

anyways... i just smached his prices again...

lets see what happens now!.


Here you have it folks - The real reason this guy is starting this shit.
Can't handle competition - clever way to get rid of it.

Do you guys know how many PM's I actually sent to fred getting his advice on how to properly be a vendor here?
I personally thanked him many times correcting mistakes I had made via PM including how he let me know xpresspost DOES require signature, which I wasn't aware.
He knows I'm not mtljohn, and I've sent him a pm to at least admit he's speculating and has no real evidence, but whatever, his plan to run me over and take the MDMA business alone out of Canada is working and you're just being his sheep.
Grats man, they say successful drug dealers are usually very intelligent people, and you have managed to mindfuck the whole SR community.

Starting to get the idea that all of you Canadian vendors are just a bunch of hot-heads, ready to pounce on people with edited post, after edited post...
As a member of these forums who follows nearly every thread at one point or another, I will say, for 'not being' John... you're just as quick to argue and post multiple posts in a row with no reply, getting like more worked up every time...

Just sayin'

He's ruining my business, of course im a hot head right now.
Fred knows I'm not MTLJohn, I have lots of PM's where I am asking fred for help with packaging - info - as I had no idea where to start.
I'm hoping to get rid of the MTLjohn speculation and I think this would be the only resort.
Unless people out there would still think this wasn't enough evidence, which I'm sure seeing the reactions this would be the case.
Title: Re: Warning .... CanadianLTD is MtlJohn
Post by: Festivalia on December 19, 2012, 06:35 am
 :-X [REDACTED]
Title: Re: Warning .... CanadianLTD is MtlJohn
Post by: CanadianLTD on December 19, 2012, 06:37 am
Just saying that the worst way for you to prove you aren't MltJohn is to come on here and jump on every single little post frantically trying to prove you're not MltJohn.

You claim you're here to do business, not get caught up in drama... so... don't?

"OMFG IM NOT MLTJOHN AGSAHSFHAGAGS" isn't going to prove anything to anyone, in fact, it's going to further support the OP, as we are ALL familiar with how 'frantic' John's posts were, and how ready-to-jump-down-someones-throat he was.

...I am very quickly buying into the OP's comparison that you are 'always online' ... I'm going to press "post" now. I give it 20 seconds before there's a response from you. And... go!

Dude, this is the first day I've been like that, would you really be able to handle it any other way? If you do your research I've ignored this for 5+ days now. It got to the point where I couldn't make a thread without having it tarnished, maybe this was the wrong decission but ignoring it wasn't doing any justice. My reputation is being viewed by hundreds of people - of course I'm quick to reply and set what I can straight. I'm going to take your advice now and let this fizzle though it really isn't helping anything.
Title: Re: Warning .... CanadianLTD is MtlJohn
Post by: Festivalia on December 19, 2012, 06:52 am
 :-X [REDACTED]
Title: Re: Warning .... CanadianLTD is MtlJohn
Post by: thatoneguy2865 on December 19, 2012, 07:02 am
Agreed. I see both points, some people are pretty adamant in trying to stop people from getting scammed so they try to dissuade as many people as they can while on the other side you are losing business based on assumptions whether or not they are true.
I ordered I've got my tracking number and I'm not finalizing till I have good product in hand. I'll be sure to be back to post feed back asap hopefully before christmas.
If I'm wrong well thats a 300 or so dollar mistake oh well I'll move on and try to be smarter.
If everything goes fine then maybe you all should wait a bit before making such bold accusations.
Title: Re: Warning .... CanadianLTD is MtlJohn
Post by: Festivalia on December 19, 2012, 05:32 pm
 :-X [REDACTED]
Title: Re: Warning .... CanadianLTD is MtlJohn
Post by: rocko71 on December 19, 2012, 06:43 pm
If CanadianLTD has 15 or so orders out, then surely it's only a matter of days until we see more representative reviews.

Getting ripped off sucks, and yes sometimes we're quick on the draw to say so-and-so is a scammer. That's because there's a great deal of trust that happens here. As others have mentioned money isn't the only issue, because of the nature of what gets traded here your mailbox could get you in trouble, or end up on a watchlist that gets vendors in trouble when they ship to you. I have no doubt that it sucks when you're trying to build up a business, but sadly that comes with the territory. It's still better to be cautious than to end up in jail, or end up being the guy who unwittingly causes others to end up in jail.
Title: Re: Warning .... CanadianLTD is MtlJohn
Post by: Krime Pays on December 19, 2012, 07:37 pm
I have noticed that there is frequent problems with Canadian vendors considering the amount that actually operate on SR.
Title: Re: Warning .... CanadianLTD is MtlJohn
Post by: sitamaja1 on December 19, 2012, 08:01 pm
Hah,

This thread has proven already that CanadianLTD is MtlJohn and everyone who understands any kind of psychology can see that.

CanadianLTD, every time you open your mouth(or rather type) you talk yourself more into it...

I just wish that some SR mod would see this and ban you... From forums and the main-site. These are the times when I wish this site wouldn't be anonymous and we could just find you and kill you... Little pricks like you, CanadianLTD, MtlJohn, or LittledickBilly OR W/E ruin this marketplace and the world.

Could you please just fuck the fuck off?

---

Just words of a cigarette addict who hasn't had any today -.-....

---

But honestly, MtlJohn, with replying to EVERY, SINGLE post, you clearly show that you're to blame here...

BAN HIM, NOW!

Just my 0,02.....

~~sitamaja
Title: Re: Warning .... CanadianLTD is MtlJohn
Post by: biglubes on December 19, 2012, 08:24 pm
:o CanadianLTD does not require FE according to him, so there isn't much to worry about...

But when talking about scams, 9 times out of 10 - it's a vendor scamming buyers. That being said, we're all sooner going to give the benefit of the doubt to the other buyers, taking their word for things over a vendors. I would rather stop people from potentially getting scammed even if my assumptions were incorrect, than side with a vendor who turns out to be a scumbag, past, present, or future.

Bold accusations are the difference between 1 or 2 people getting scammed, vs. 10 cause no one made assumptions quick enough...

Ahhhh the ole guilty until proven innocent approach.  "I thought this was America , people " - Jay Z
Title: Re: Warning .... CanadianLTD is MtlJohn
Post by: sitamaja1 on December 19, 2012, 11:00 pm
:o CanadianLTD does not require FE according to him, so there isn't much to worry about...

But when talking about scams, 9 times out of 10 - it's a vendor scamming buyers. That being said, we're all sooner going to give the benefit of the doubt to the other buyers, taking their word for things over a vendors. I would rather stop people from potentially getting scammed even if my assumptions were incorrect, than side with a vendor who turns out to be a scumbag, past, present, or future.

Bold accusations are the difference between 1 or 2 people getting scammed, vs. 10 cause no one made assumptions quick enough...

Ahhhh the ole guilty until proven innocent approach.  "I thought this was America , people " - Jay Z

Oh.... this is so wrong, because even if you're in escrow, the best you can hope for is 50% refund, meaning if he'd scam you(without sending ANYTHING out), he'd get 50% of your payment for doing NOTHING and still getting money....

Furthermore, he'd get addresses which he could use to manipulate people into doing whatever he wants, just like he has done before.

I would stay FAR, F A R away from this MtlJohn in CanadianLTD's skin if I were you(aha, like that analogue? came up with it all by myself :))

I wish that MtlJohn would die a horrible, painful death,
BUT the very best to you all(except the ones that are blindly supporting MtlJohn)!

~~sitamaja
Title: Re: Warning .... CanadianLTD is MtlJohn
Post by: edar on December 19, 2012, 11:07 pm
Not John again  ;D  What is up with you  ;D  pm me for some advice mate wont cost you much , you defo need it  ;D  ;D
Title: Re: Warning .... CanadianLTD is MtlJohn
Post by: uniqueusername on December 20, 2012, 12:37 am
:o CanadianLTD does not require FE according to him, so there isn't much to worry about...

But when talking about scams, 9 times out of 10 - it's a vendor scamming buyers. That being said, we're all sooner going to give the benefit of the doubt to the other buyers, taking their word for things over a vendors. I would rather stop people from potentially getting scammed even if my assumptions were incorrect, than side with a vendor who turns out to be a scumbag, past, present, or future.

Bold accusations are the difference between 1 or 2 people getting scammed, vs. 10 cause no one made assumptions quick enough...

Ahhhh the ole guilty until proven innocent approach.  "I thought this was America , people " - Jay Z

Oh.... this is so wrong, because even if you're in escrow, the best you can hope for is 50% refund, meaning if he'd scam you(without sending ANYTHING out), he'd get 50% of your payment for doing NOTHING and still getting money....

Furthermore, he'd get addresses which he could use to manipulate people into doing whatever he wants, just like he has done before.

I would stay FAR, F A R away from this MtlJohn in CanadianLTD's skin if I were you(aha, like that analogue? came up with it all by myself :))

I wish that MtlJohn would die a horrible, painful death,
BUT the very best to you all(except the ones that are blindly supporting MtlJohn)!

~~sitamaja

This is John's style. In no time we'll have people posting that their tracking info never updated, and the vendors response will be "take it up with canada post. It's out of my hands".

Title: Re: Warning .... CanadianLTD is MtlJohn
Post by: CrazyBart on December 20, 2012, 03:28 am
I might just order a gram off this guy with some extra coins. Ill send it to a different address under a different name. Just see if he actually gives out track numbers that work.
Title: Re: Warning .... CanadianLTD is MtlJohn
Post by: rocko71 on December 20, 2012, 03:31 am
FWIW I'm not really convinced. A cretin like John couldn't have resisted by now the impulse of saying "haha got you suckaz again" at this point... besides I don't think CanadianLTD and mtljohn have terribly similar styles.
Title: Re: Warning .... CanadianLTD is MtlJohn
Post by: greenturtle on December 20, 2012, 03:34 am
Fuck Mtljohn and Fuck Canadian LTD!

I love -Karma by the way!!!
Title: Re: Warning .... CanadianLTD is MtlJohn
Post by: CanadianLTD on December 20, 2012, 04:00 am
FWIW I'm not really convinced. A cretin like John couldn't have resisted by now the impulse of saying "haha got you suckaz again" at this point... besides I don't think CanadianLTD and mtljohn have terribly similar styles.

I've read the guys posts, I'm nothing like him.
I'm just finding it amusing at this point, I definitely reacted the wrong way and should have just kept my composure.
I have about 16 orders now that are waiting to finalize, and 3 that have 100 % positive feedback. Not sure why these orders are taking so long to arrive, I'm assuming that it's because of the holidays.

Thanks for everyone that has stuck up for me / believed me and I'll be a great vendor to everyone on here, and for the skeptics just wait on that feedback. Cheers.
Title: Re: Warning .... CanadianLTD is MtlJohn
Post by: CanadianLTD on December 20, 2012, 04:03 am
I might just order a gram off this guy with some extra coins. Ill send it to a different address under a different name. Just see if he actually gives out track numbers that work.

I give out tracking numbers the same day of the order, usually within the same hour if I'm online.
I have recently started back at my job after a break so there is a 8 - 9 hour period where I'm not online anymore.

Also - about people saying I won't give refunds - I am a new vendor and if they purchased the tracking option and I see that it got stopped at customs  -  of course I would give a full refund as that is my failure in packaging the goods.
The only time I would not is if they made a mistake on their end because of the name / address.
Title: Re: Warning .... CanadianLTD is MtlJohn
Post by: CrazyBart on December 20, 2012, 04:59 am
I might just order a gram off this guy with some extra coins. Ill send it to a different address under a different name. Just see if he actually gives out track numbers that work.

I give out tracking numbers the same day of the order, usually within the same hour if I'm online.
I have recently started back at my job after a break so there is a 8 - 9 hour period where I'm not online anymore.

Also - about people saying I won't give refunds - I am a new vendor and if they purchased the tracking option and I see that it got istopped at customs  -  of course I would give a full refund as that is my failure in packaging the goods.
The only time I would not is if they made a mistake on their end because of the name / address.

Im rooting for you! It is kind of curious that another mdma vendor is making these accusations. As soon as some more feedback comes in, that is reputable, you will have an order from me.
Title: Re: Warning .... CanadianLTD is MtlJohn
Post by: CanadianLTD on December 20, 2012, 05:09 am
I might just order a gram off this guy with some extra coins. Ill send it to a different address under a different name. Just see if he actually gives out track numbers that work.

I give out tracking numbers the same day of the order, usually within the same hour if I'm online.
I have recently started back at my job after a break so there is a 8 - 9 hour period where I'm not online anymore.

Also - about people saying I won't give refunds - I am a new vendor and if they purchased the tracking option and I see that it got istopped at customs  -  of course I would give a full refund as that is my failure in packaging the goods.
The only time I would not is if they made a mistake on their end because of the name / address.

Im rooting for you! It is kind of curious that another mdma vendor is making these accusations. As soon as some more feedback comes in, that is reputable, you will have an order from me.

Cool man! I mean let's be honest here, is the silk road created for immature people to argue? Or is it created to give a safe environment to exchange bitcoins for drugs? I'll say the latter, and I'm not gonna get caught up in something like this again and stay on track for my real purpose of opening a vendor account here, which is make money and make people happy.
Title: Re: Warning .... CanadianLTD is MtlJohn
Post by: Heizenberg on December 20, 2012, 05:54 am
So what's the conclusion? I kinda want to order but I don't want to get molested in the middle of the night in case it's actually john :/ I'm still young.
Title: Re: Warning .... CanadianLTD is MtlJohn
Post by: Yurnero on December 20, 2012, 06:08 am
Was looking at picture of your stuff and was wondering why its white but has some tan it?
Title: Re: Warning .... CanadianLTD is MtlJohn
Post by: CanadianLTD on December 20, 2012, 06:13 am
So what's the conclusion? I kinda want to order but I don't want to get molested in the middle of the night in case it's actually john :/ I'm still young.

Lol, you've got my word that it isn't the case, but like I said over these next couple days hopefully some more people are going to start finalizing with feedback!

Was looking at picture of your stuff and was wondering why its white but has some tan it?

This is just what the crystals look like when crushed - one reason is: it's not as obvious if looked at by customs, but the main reason is locally in my city, users weren't familiar with mdma coming fully crystalized - they expected a powder so that's just how I started selling it as I sell it locally.

I have had some requests by users only to receive crystals - and I will be able to fulfill this no probs on my next batch. Those little brown crystals you see is what the whole batch looks like until I crush it down.

I have had 3 people give 100 % feedback who loved it so far.
Title: Re: Warning .... CanadianLTD is MtlJohn
Post by: Festivalia on December 20, 2012, 08:19 am
 :-X [REDACTED]
Title: Re: Warning .... CanadianLTD is MtlJohn
Post by: samesamebutdifferent on December 20, 2012, 10:22 am
FWIW I'm not really convinced. A cretin like John couldn't have resisted by now the impulse of saying "haha got you suckaz again" at this point... besides I don't think CanadianLTD and mtljohn have terribly similar styles.

I have to say I trolled the fuck out of mtljohn and this guy does not sound like him in my opinion.

CandianLTD, how many cars do you have? have you been to Vegas recently? Do you own lots of nice watches?

Seriously guys I think this is a case of mistaken identity and believe me if I thought it was that fucktard mtljohn I'd be the first to call him out.
Title: Re: Warning .... CanadianLTD is MtlJohn
Post by: rocko71 on December 20, 2012, 11:32 am
I must say I agree, I jumped the gun because I was sore and made myself look like a bit of an ass. Sorry about that. :-[
Title: Re: Warning .... CanadianLTD is MtlJohn
Post by: CrazyBart on December 20, 2012, 02:13 pm
The only thing that makes me think this MIGHT be john is that john has been missing since the time this guy popped up. Johnmtl isn't the kind of guy to just up and leave without fucking over as many people as possible and causing a commotion.

Oh well, im just going to sit back and watch from now on and hope this guy turns out to be an honest vendor.
Title: Re: Warning .... CanadianLTD is MtlJohn
Post by: CanadianLTD on December 20, 2012, 04:44 pm
FWIW I'm not really convinced. A cretin like John couldn't have resisted by now the impulse of saying "haha got you suckaz again" at this point... besides I don't think CanadianLTD and mtljohn have terribly similar styles.

I have to say I trolled the fuck out of mtljohn and this guy does not sound like him in my opinion.

CandianLTD, how many cars do you have? have you been to Vegas recently? Do you own lots of nice watches?

Seriously guys I think this is a case of mistaken identity and believe me if I thought it was that fucktard mtljohn I'd be the first to call him out.

Lol I've never discussed any of the 3 and have never been to Las Vegas

I must say I agree, I jumped the gun because I was sore and made myself look like a bit of an ass. Sorry about that. :-[

I appreciate your apology! Honestly It's whatever, the only thing it hurt was my karma! :P

The only thing that makes me think this MIGHT be john is that john has been missing since the time this guy popped up. Johnmtl isn't the kind of guy to just up and leave without fucking over as many people as possible and causing a commotion.

Oh well, im just going to sit back and watch from now on and hope this guy turns out to be an honest vendor.

Sweet, I'll prove myself on here to you guys! Happy Holidays :)
Title: Re: Warning .... CanadianLTD is MtlJohn
Post by: hoobydoobydoo on December 20, 2012, 04:57 pm
This is just what the crystals look like when crushed - one reason is: it's not as obvious if looked at by customs, but the main reason is locally in my city, users weren't familiar with mdma coming fully crystalized - they expected a powder so that's just how I started selling it as I sell it locally.

I have had some requests by users only to receive crystals - and I will be able to fulfill this no probs on my next batch. Those little brown crystals you see is what the whole batch looks like until I crush it down.

Finally you are making sense when answering this question:  You have tan/brown MDMA crystals which turn to white powder upon pulverizing - which you have done to about 80% of it right now.  Would've helped me become a lot less confused before if you had just said that.

Looks like you have two ratings so far.  One from a customer who hasn't tried yet.  Both are for single grams.  I still may consider buying a halfO if you can rack up enough other feedback on higher quantities.
Title: Re: Warning .... CanadianLTD is MtlJohn
Post by: CanadianLTD on December 20, 2012, 05:11 pm
This is just what the crystals look like when crushed - one reason is: it's not as obvious if looked at by customs, but the main reason is locally in my city, users weren't familiar with mdma coming fully crystalized - they expected a powder so that's just how I started selling it as I sell it locally.

I have had some requests by users only to receive crystals - and I will be able to fulfill this no probs on my next batch. Those little brown crystals you see is what the whole batch looks like until I crush it down.

Finally you are making sense when answering this question:  You have tan/brown MDMA crystals which turn to white powder upon pulverizing - which you have done to about 80% of it right now.  Would've helped me become a lot less confused before if you had just said that.

Looks like you have two ratings so far.  One from a customer who hasn't tried yet.  Both are for single grams.  I still may consider buying a halfO if you can rack up enough other feedback on higher quantities.

Yeah, I'm gonna re-write that whole thing it's pretty confusing.
Well if you click my account I have 100 % from 3 transactions someone decided to not bother leave a rating,
but I would hope some more people will finalize by today finally. I've had 4 orders to get out this morning, ฿157.34 bitcoins in my escrow so there's lots waiting to go through.
Title: Re: Warning .... CanadianLTD is MtlJohn
Post by: sitamaja1 on December 22, 2012, 04:15 pm
:o CanadianLTD does not require FE according to him, so there isn't much to worry about...

But when talking about scams, 9 times out of 10 - it's a vendor scamming buyers. That being said, we're all sooner going to give the benefit of the doubt to the other buyers, taking their word for things over a vendors. I would rather stop people from potentially getting scammed even if my assumptions were incorrect, than side with a vendor who turns out to be a scumbag, past, present, or future.

Bold accusations are the difference between 1 or 2 people getting scammed, vs. 10 cause no one made assumptions quick enough...

Ahhhh the ole guilty until proven innocent approach.  "I thought this was America , people " - Jay Z

Oh.... this is so wrong, because even if you're in escrow, the best you can hope for is 50% refund, meaning if he'd scam you(without sending ANYTHING out), he'd get 50% of your payment for doing NOTHING and still getting money....

Furthermore, he'd get addresses which he could use to manipulate people into doing whatever he wants, just like he has done before.

I would stay FAR, F A R away from this MtlJohn in CanadianLTD's skin if I were you(aha, like that analogue? came up with it all by myself :))

I wish that MtlJohn would die a horrible, painful death,
BUT the very best to you all(except the ones that are blindly supporting MtlJohn)!

~~sitamaja

Best you could hope for is a 50% refund? IF it's in escrow and the vendor cannot provide a DCN number to support, you don't think they'd release 100% back to the buyer, as the vendor would then not be able to provide proof of a package having been sent? If the vendor did provide a DCN, with a confirmed delivery, this would obviously be a different story.

So, how am I wrong? Just curious. Unless you were talking about the person who quoted me, in the quote you quoted... Quotey McQuotester.

Usually SR customer support grants a 50% refund, because it's usually a 50/50 chance that the package gets to you, so if it doesn't both will carry the same loss.

I wouldn't even dare to send any address to CanadianLTD's(aka Mtljohn's) way....

~~sitamaja
Title: Re: Warning .... CanadianLTD is MtlJohn
Post by: fredflintstone on December 22, 2012, 09:33 pm
Yeah its 110% MtlJohn

Poor reviews on his cheap MDMA have even started to come in.

190 posts in like 15 days of being on the site, constant bumping and oh ...

weird that qcm39 hasnt logged on once since the thread accusing them both of being the same person hahaha

What a loser. He slithered in and out of Vancouver to pickup his cheap M too ... didnt even have the guts to face me like he talked about.

Maybe he was scared of all the HA claiming he was doing, would wind up getting his teeth kicked in.
Title: Re: Warning .... CanadianLTD is MtlJohn
Post by: Magic Moments on December 22, 2012, 10:03 pm
Yeah its 110% MtlJohn

Poor reviews on his cheap MDMA have even started to come in.

190 posts in like 15 days of being on the site, constant bumping and oh ...

weird that qcm39 hasnt logged on once since the thread accusing them both of being the same person hahaha

What a loser. He slithered in and out of Vancouver to pickup his cheap M too ... didnt even have the guts to face me like he talked about.

Maybe he was scared of all the HA claiming he was doing, would wind up getting his teeth kicked in.

We were not going to post on this topic but it has become eerily obvious that you are just trying to get rid of your competition. We have done our research on MTLJohn and this whole fiasco. From the info we gathered, it seems like you believe john stole 1300 bitcoins from you, which from what we read, was not the case, however it turned out in the end that after your package was found that john decided to keep it based on the arrogant way you handled yourself regarding the issues you and him had (which was not cool of him!). We can also see that you have accused many members of this community of being john. How many members are you going to call out before you realize you can never know for sure?  You're just looking like a young kid by accusing all these people with you limited experience in investigations.

We wont ever be buying mdma on the road as we have a super hook-up here in our town that can supply us with the best Canada has to offer. We were planning on selling x and speed pills in the next month, but just for shits and giggles we've decided to list mdma as our next product, and while we can surely "slash" the prices as you said LTD did to you, we've decided to come in at the same prices as cdnltd and let our product talk for its self, We seem to have some of the best blow on the road from the reviews we've gotten so far, and we can only expect the same with our mdma.

Please fred, stop accusing everyone of being someone they may or may not be, unless you have 100% proof., we ask that you kindly back off and focus on your clients and making money, and not focus on trying to tarnish a new vendors rep before he even has any sales.

-Magic Moments Team
Title: Re: Warning .... CanadianLTD is MtlJohn
Post by: Festivalia on December 23, 2012, 01:37 am
 :-X [REDACTED]
Title: Re: Warning .... CanadianLTD is MtlJohn
Post by: Magic Moments on December 23, 2012, 01:59 am
Comparable, YES. Cheaper, NO. Better product? We think so. Yes for escrow and for shipping. Please contact us on the road for any further questions.

Magic
Title: Re: Warning .... CanadianLTD is MtlJohn
Post by: Harmful Hits on December 23, 2012, 02:01 am
Yeah its 110% MtlJohn

Poor reviews on his cheap MDMA have even started to come in.

190 posts in like 15 days of being on the site, constant bumping and oh ...

weird that qcm39 hasnt logged on once since the thread accusing them both of being the same person hahaha

What a loser. He slithered in and out of Vancouver to pickup his cheap M too ... didnt even have the guts to face me like he talked about.

Maybe he was scared of all the HA claiming he was doing, would wind up getting his teeth kicked in.

We were not going to post on this topic but it has become eerily obvious that you are just trying to get rid of your competition. We have done our research on MTLJohn and this whole fiasco. From the info we gathered, it seems like you believe john stole 1300 bitcoins from you, which from what we read, was not the case, however it turned out in the end that after your package was found that john decided to keep it based on the arrogant way you handled yourself regarding the issues you and him had (which was not cool of him!). We can also see that you have accused many members of this community of being john. How many members are you going to call out before you realize you can never know for sure?  You're just looking like a young kid by accusing all these people with you limited experience in investigations.

We wont ever be buying mdma on the road as we have a super hook-up here in our town that can supply us with the best Canada has to offer. We were planning on selling x and speed pills in the next month, but just for shits and giggles we've decided to list mdma as our next product, and while we can surely "slash" the prices as you said LTD did to you, we've decided to come in at the same prices as cdnltd and let our product talk for its self, We seem to have some of the best blow on the road from the reviews we've gotten so far, and we can only expect the same with our mdma.

Please fred, stop accusing everyone of being someone they may or may not be, unless you have 100% proof., we ask that you kindly back off and focus on your clients and making money, and not focus on trying to tarnish a new vendors rep before he even has any sales.

-Magic Moments Team

Wise words from Magic Moments!! Magic Moments fuckin rules!! Great coke!!
Title: Re: Warning .... CanadianLTD is MtlJohn
Post by: Magic Moments on December 23, 2012, 02:17 am
Yeah its 110% MtlJohn

Poor reviews on his cheap MDMA have even started to come in.

190 posts in like 15 days of being on the site, constant bumping and oh ...

weird that qcm39 hasnt logged on once since the thread accusing them both of being the same person hahaha

What a loser. He slithered in and out of Vancouver to pickup his cheap M too ... didnt even have the guts to face me like he talked about.

Maybe he was scared of all the HA claiming he was doing, would wind up getting his teeth kicked in.

We were not going to post on this topic but it has become eerily obvious that you are just trying to get rid of your competition. We have done our research on MTLJohn and this whole fiasco. From the info we gathered, it seems like you believe john stole 1300 bitcoins from you, which from what we read, was not the case, however it turned out in the end that after your package was found that john decided to keep it based on the arrogant way you handled yourself regarding the issues you and him had (which was not cool of him!). We can also see that you have accused many members of this community of being john. How many members are you going to call out before you realize you can never know for sure?  You're just looking like a young kid by accusing all these people with you limited experience in investigations.

We wont ever be buying mdma on the road as we have a super hook-up here in our town that can supply us with the best Canada has to offer. We were planning on selling x and speed pills in the next month, but just for shits and giggles we've decided to list mdma as our next product, and while we can surely "slash" the prices as you said LTD did to you, we've decided to come in at the same prices as cdnltd and let our product talk for its self, We seem to have some of the best blow on the road from the reviews we've gotten so far, and we can only expect the same with our mdma.

Please fred, stop accusing everyone of being someone they may or may not be, unless you have 100% proof., we ask that you kindly back off and focus on your clients and making money, and not focus on trying to tarnish a new vendors rep before he even has any sales.

-Magic Moments Team

Wise words from Magic Moments!! Magic Moments fuckin rules!! Great coke!!

Thank you! 
Title: Re: Warning .... CanadianLTD is MtlJohn
Post by: CrazyBart on December 23, 2012, 02:33 am
Yeah its 110% MtlJohn

Poor reviews on his cheap MDMA have even started to come in.

190 posts in like 15 days of being on the site, constant bumping and oh ...

weird that qcm39 hasnt logged on once since the thread accusing them both of being the same person hahaha

What a loser. He slithered in and out of Vancouver to pickup his cheap M too ... didnt even have the guts to face me like he talked about.

Maybe he was scared of all the HA claiming he was doing, would wind up getting his teeth kicked in.

We were not going to post on this topic but it has become eerily obvious that you are just trying to get rid of your competition. We have done our research on MTLJohn and this whole fiasco. From the info we gathered, it seems like you believe john stole 1300 bitcoins from you, which from what we read, was not the case, however it turned out in the end that after your package was found that john decided to keep it based on the arrogant way you handled yourself regarding the issues you and him had (which was not cool of him!). We can also see that you have accused many members of this community of being john. How many members are you going to call out before you realize you can never know for sure?  You're just looking like a young kid by accusing all these people with you limited experience in investigations.

We wont ever be buying mdma on the road as we have a super hook-up here in our town that can supply us with the best Canada has to offer. We were planning on selling x and speed pills in the next month, but just for shits and giggles we've decided to list mdma as our next product, and while we can surely "slash" the prices as you said LTD did to you, we've decided to come in at the same prices as cdnltd and let our product talk for its self, We seem to have some of the best blow on the road from the reviews we've gotten so far, and we can only expect the same with our mdma.

Please fred, stop accusing everyone of being someone they may or may not be, unless you have 100% proof., we ask that you kindly back off and focus on your clients and making money, and not focus on trying to tarnish a new vendors rep before he even has any sales.

-Magic Moments Team

This can only mean one thing...

Magic Moments is johnmtl!!!
Title: Re: Warning .... CanadianLTD is MtlJohn
Post by: Magic Moments on December 23, 2012, 02:41 am
Yeah its 110% MtlJohn

Poor reviews on his cheap MDMA have even started to come in.

190 posts in like 15 days of being on the site, constant bumping and oh ...

weird that qcm39 hasnt logged on once since the thread accusing them both of being the same person hahaha

What a loser. He slithered in and out of Vancouver to pickup his cheap M too ... didnt even have the guts to face me like he talked about.

Maybe he was scared of all the HA claiming he was doing, would wind up getting his teeth kicked in.

We were not going to post on this topic but it has become eerily obvious that you are just trying to get rid of your competition. We have done our research on MTLJohn and this whole fiasco. From the info we gathered, it seems like you believe john stole 1300 bitcoins from you, which from what we read, was not the case, however it turned out in the end that after your package was found that john decided to keep it based on the arrogant way you handled yourself regarding the issues you and him had (which was not cool of him!). We can also see that you have accused many members of this community of being john. How many members are you going to call out before you realize you can never know for sure?  You're just looking like a young kid by accusing all these people with you limited experience in investigations.

We wont ever be buying mdma on the road as we have a super hook-up here in our town that can supply us with the best Canada has to offer. We were planning on selling x and speed pills in the next month, but just for shits and giggles we've decided to list mdma as our next product, and while we can surely "slash" the prices as you said LTD did to you, we've decided to come in at the same prices as cdnltd and let our product talk for its self, We seem to have some of the best blow on the road from the reviews we've gotten so far, and we can only expect the same with our mdma.

Please fred, stop accusing everyone of being someone they may or may not be, unless you have 100% proof., we ask that you kindly back off and focus on your clients and making money, and not focus on trying to tarnish a new vendors rep before he even has any sales.

-Magic Moments Team

This can only mean one thing...

Magic Moments is johnmtl!!!

Yes, we MUST be, at least you put the same amount of consideration into accusing us as fred did in accusing LTD.

-Magic
Title: Re: Warning .... CanadianLTD is MtlJohn
Post by: soo25 on December 29, 2012, 08:38 am
has any one done bulk.to the states and is it any good??
Title: Re: Warning .... CanadianLTD is MtlJohn
Post by: thatoneguy2865 on December 29, 2012, 08:13 pm
Well like I said I got my package and I've come back to give my 2 cents.
First off I have had no problem with this guy. He responded quickly to any question I had and was willing to work with me on stealth on the package.
The shipping took a little longer then I had hoped but it was around Christmas and it did have to come to the east coast so 10 days wasn't that bad.
Stealth was good didn't see any problems there.
Product may have been a tad underweight but .05 - .1 at the very most. I probably just lost weight in the corners of the bag.
Same night I insufflated about .1 - .15 (I don't have a very accurate scale as of right now) and I rolled hard and felt amazing but as is the nature of insuf I started coming down 3 or so hours later and it was a typical comedown very relaxed kind of somber comedown.
All in all 5/5 I will admit all the accusation did make me weary but in the end everything went well and I don't see why you all insist on accusing people of being john.
Btw if it is infact john but you think he is trying to run a clean account why would he make his name Canadian? if you are trying to not get a bad rep why would you give away your location and then hope no one notices?
Title: Re: Warning .... CanadianLTD is MtlJohn
Post by: fredflintstone on December 29, 2012, 08:30 pm
He has to tell people he is shipping from Canada in his listing / postage options anyways

So putting the word Canadian in his username is no big deal
Title: Re: Warning .... CanadianLTD is MtlJohn
Post by: hoobydoobydoo on December 29, 2012, 10:00 pm
Product may have been a tad underweight but .05 - .1 at the very most. I probably just lost weight in the corners of the bag.
Same night I insufflated about .1 - .15 (I don't have a very accurate scale as of right now)

You should get a better scale.  Especially if you are going to be claiming things are underweight.  Not defending anyone.  Just sayin... you can't tell how much you blew how do you know how short it was?

Title: Re: Warning .... CanadianLTD is MtlJohn
Post by: fredflintstone on January 10, 2013, 01:55 am
Yeah its 110% MtlJohn

Poor reviews on his cheap MDMA have even started to come in.

190 posts in like 15 days of being on the site, constant bumping and oh ...

weird that qcm39 hasnt logged on once since the thread accusing them both of being the same person hahaha

What a loser. He slithered in and out of Vancouver to pickup his cheap M too ... didnt even have the guts to face me like he talked about.

Maybe he was scared of all the HA claiming he was doing, would wind up getting his teeth kicked in.

We were not going to post on this topic but it has become eerily obvious that you are just trying to get rid of your competition. We have done our research on MTLJohn and this whole fiasco. From the info we gathered, it seems like you believe john stole 1300 bitcoins from you, which from what we read, was not the case, however it turned out in the end that after your package was found that john decided to keep it based on the arrogant way you handled yourself regarding the issues you and him had (which was not cool of him!). We can also see that you have accused many members of this community of being john. How many members are you going to call out before you realize you can never know for sure?  You're just looking like a young kid by accusing all these people with you limited experience in investigations.

We wont ever be buying mdma on the road as we have a super hook-up here in our town that can supply us with the best Canada has to offer. We were planning on selling x and speed pills in the next month, but just for shits and giggles we've decided to list mdma as our next product, and while we can surely "slash" the prices as you said LTD did to you, we've decided to come in at the same prices as cdnltd and let our product talk for its self, We seem to have some of the best blow on the road from the reviews we've gotten so far, and we can only expect the same with our mdma.

Please fred, stop accusing everyone of being someone they may or may not be, unless you have 100% proof., we ask that you kindly back off and focus on your clients and making money, and not focus on trying to tarnish a new vendors rep before he even has any sales.

-Magic Moments Team

This can only mean one thing...

Magic Moments is johnmtl!!!

Yes, we MUST be, at least you put the same amount of consideration into accusing us as fred did in accusing LTD.

-Magic

CanadianLTD was MtlJohn, he admitted it.

Sorry my accusations werent up to your standards.
Title: Re: Warning .... CanadianLTD is MtlJohn
Post by: hoobydoobydoo on January 10, 2013, 02:23 am
CanadianLTD was MtlJohn, he admitted it.

Is this is another thread?  I missed it.  Can you link?  Just would like to read him admit it as this was a funny saga and I'd enjoy seeing the conclusion.
Title: Re: Warning .... CanadianLTD is MtlJohn
Post by: fredflintstone on January 10, 2013, 02:28 am
http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=102463.msg715175#msg715175
Title: Re: Warning .... CanadianLTD is MtlJohn
Post by: hoobydoobydoo on January 10, 2013, 03:10 am
Kudos to your detective work.

Proved many doubters wrong.

Seems this guy is going to keep trying this...
Title: Re: Warning .... CanadianLTD is MtlJohn
Post by: pinkkush on January 10, 2013, 03:12 am
http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=102463.msg715175#msg715175

good job man, seriously.

what a bitch.
Title: Re: Warning .... CanadianLTD is MtlJohn
Post by: soo25 on January 10, 2013, 03:39 am
F THIS GUY STILL trying to scam people.us asking us to just send hm $$ and hill send $$
thank u every body  for saveing us the bs..+1 to every one
Title: Re: Warning .... CanadianLTD is MtlJohn
Post by: samesamebutdifferent on January 11, 2013, 09:09 am
Just reading the other thread now, can't believe I missed it the first time.

 >:(
Title: Re: Warning .... CanadianLTD is MtlJohn
Post by: samesamebutdifferent on January 11, 2013, 09:23 am
Sorry Fred I owe you an apology, good work spotting it and not being deterred. So given he has admitted to scamming you will his new vendor account now be suspended?
Title: Re: Warning .... CanadianLTD is MtlJohn
Post by: samesamebutdifferent on January 11, 2013, 09:32 am
Can one of the admins please ban his account.

Thanks.
Title: Re: Warning .... CanadianLTD is MtlJohn
Post by: samesamebutdifferent on January 11, 2013, 09:47 am
Can one of the admins please ban his account.

Thanks.

You'll need to PM inigo or Flush ...

Onto it.
Title: Re: Warning .... CanadianLTD is MtlJohn
Post by: sitamaja1 on January 11, 2013, 10:14 pm
It's funny that people didn't realize it before he confessed.

I guess it's understandable, because, after all this is an anonymous site and no one can know for sure and in the end it was the stupidity of that arrogant bastard that got him caught.

Well I guess it's true what they say: "You're your own worst enemy."

All the very best to you all!

~~sitamaja
Title: Re: Warning .... CanadianLTD is MtlJohn
Post by: samesamebutdifferent on January 11, 2013, 10:26 pm
I followed MtlJohn closely the first time and when I initially ready CandianLTD posts they did not seem anything like the same writing style so doubted Fred's claims. MtlJohn soon reverted to his loud mouth trash talking ways though so it soon became more obvious, good on you Fred for sticking with it, only hope this clown gets banned soon.
Title: Re: Warning .... CanadianLTD is MtlJohn
Post by: soo25 on January 12, 2013, 12:31 am
he is still on here with a different account.he sent us the same pic he has on his new account but wit are friends mane on it so he fucked up
we will post his new account.
Title: Re: Warning .... CanadianLTD is MtlJohn
Post by: fredflintstone on January 12, 2013, 01:30 am
soo25, please do

i know of 1 other account he is working here, but we are already onto it
Title: Re: Warning .... CanadianLTD is MtlJohn
Post by: fredflintstone on January 12, 2013, 01:32 am
I followed MtlJohn closely the first time and when I initially ready CandianLTD posts they did not seem anything like the same writing style so doubted Fred's claims. MtlJohn soon reverted to his loud mouth trash talking ways though so it soon became more obvious, good on you Fred for sticking with it, only hope this clown gets banned soon.

yeah he did a good job changing his tone .. but all the bumping and the products he was offering were a big indicator to me. me and notspacecase then baited the qcm39 account one night knowing cltd would need to log off to reply and he did it over and over.

oh well, i tried lol

glad he is gone regardless
Title: Re: Warning .... CanadianLTD is MtlJohn
Post by: soo25 on January 12, 2013, 02:06 am
GMemphis its the same lame person and pic be careful every one and we for got the other one we will find hm
Title: Re: Warning .... CanadianLTD is MtlJohn
Post by: fredflintstone on January 12, 2013, 02:12 am
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

it is too

check this idiot out --- http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/user/c05b54db8d

$2 grams of MDMA ... guess he learnt his lesson from last time when he spent all that money building his account.

Feedback literally coming in every hour hahahaha
Title: Re: Warning .... CanadianLTD is MtlJohn
Post by: DankSources on January 12, 2013, 02:56 am
Damn. This. Infuriating bug. That. Won't. Die. Come on. Fucking die already. john... come on man, give up.
Title: Re: Warning .... CanadianLTD is MtlJohn
Post by: soo25 on January 12, 2013, 03:01 am
fucking trash bag!his just a big fn waste for everyone trying to make $$ on here..well we cant find the other one.as he changed the pic.
but we will kp trying to find hm.be safe every one we got a snake in the grass >:(
Title: Re: Warning .... CanadianLTD is MtlJohn
Post by: t0rk on January 12, 2013, 03:01 am
No matter how many accounts he makes corny lines like "cocaine was very popular with successful and middle class white people - AND NOW YOUVE MADE IT POPULAR WITH ME!" will always give him away hahaha

This guy is a fucking cornball.