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Discussion => Silk Road discussion => Topic started by: COMMUNIST REGIME on December 14, 2012, 02:59 am
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Is it Just me Or Did Silkroad Just Raise the Price to become a Seller?, i remember it was ฿12-13 now its ฿36.52
Can Someone verify please because i just got my money Ready to Become a seller and now the Price just Jumped Unbelievably High!
COMMUNIST REGIME.
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I was wondering the same thing.. was going to start a vendor account and when I went to do it I saw that it was almost 500$ for one.. WTF last time I checked it was around 200... Looks like I might not be a vendor here after all.. gonna take 20+ sales just to break even including personal costs of product..
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I was wondering the same thing.. was going to start a vendor account and when I went to do it I saw that it was almost 500$ for one.. WTF last time I checked it was around 200... Looks like I might not be a vendor here after all.. gonna take 20+ sales just to break even including personal costs of product..
Same here, at least you didn't make over 150 stealth Packages and Boom saw the Outrages Price!
Silk Road GO BACK DOWN! PLEASE!
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They did increase it. I think it was in the last week or two actually, but I might be wrong. That sucks man, I kinda feel bad, but I think it was to discourage scammers from making accounts.
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i'm sorry, but i can't argue against them raising the prices. it will discourage someone from making a vendor account for $200 or whatever it was to make $1000 in scams. while it might harm some legitimate people, i feel like it will prevent more scammers. if you are serious about becoming a vendor, you should be able to make back your money quickly. if you plan on becoming a vendor to get ride of a set amount of product you have and then be done, you should waste the money. good luck with what ever choices you guys make in regards to this change.
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There's already been a thread posted about it days ago...
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I understand the scammer side... If things go well I should be able to get a vendor account in the coming weeks (did not plan on the big price increase or it would have been today).. Hoping to be a new LSD vendor at reasonable prices as everyone else on here (USA domestic) are trying to rape people... Will start a new account for the vendor side of me when I do.. stay on the look out in the coming weeks for free samples when I get the $$ for the vendor account...
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I understand the scammer side... If things go well I should be able to get a vendor account in the coming weeks (did not plan on the big price increase or it would have been today).. Hoping to be a new LSD vendor at reasonable prices as everyone else on here (USA domestic) are trying to rape people... Will start a new account for the vendor side of me when I do.. stay on the look out in the coming weeks for free samples when I get the $$ for the vendor account...
speak with the avengers about samples and testing, it will help you tremendously :)
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I understand the scammer side... If things go well I should be able to get a vendor account in the coming weeks (did not plan on the big price increase or it would have been today).. Hoping to be a new LSD vendor at reasonable prices as everyone else on here (USA domestic) are trying to rape people... Will start a new account for the vendor side of me when I do.. stay on the look out in the coming weeks for free samples when I get the $$ for the vendor account...
Shoot me a pm when you do, I'd be very interested in purchasing from you. Also, if you wanted to make like 1000 in like 2 hours, sell coke. It's retarded expensive on the road, if you undercut everyone by like 50$ a gram(easy as fuck to do), you'd be rich instantly
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Just.. damn. I guess I lucked out by buying in when I did.
That you did.. I am now discouraged from buying one for at least a few weeks maybe even a month.. sucks ass...
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Bout fucking time.
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Bout fucking time.
Couldnt agree more, Now time to startr charging for buyers accounts.
If you were gonna be fucked by a $350 increase in account price then youre business is running on way too small profit margins
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I think the best thing to do For Silkroad would be the Accounts that were created before the update should still be the same proce and any other account that was created after the suddden price Hike should stay that way, Anyone for that Idea? because its not easy to transfer Bitcoins from Cash to Mtgox then Mtgox to Either Account or Wallet then account. this is a process of more then 7days.
Dose anyone else agree with me?
COMMUNIST REGIME.
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Shoot me a pm when you do, I'd be very interested in purchasing from you. Also, if you wanted to make like 1000 in like 2 hours, sell coke. It's retarded expensive on the road, if you undercut everyone by like 50$ a gram(easy as fuck to do), you'd be rich instantly
Yes, more coke vendors please.
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I think the best thing to do For Silkroad would be the Accounts that were created before the update should still be the same proce and any other account that was created after the suddden price Hike should stay that way, Anyone for that Idea? because its not easy to transfer Bitcoins from Cash to Mtgox then Mtgox to Either Account or Wallet then account. this is a process of more then 7days.
Dose anyone else agree with me?
COMMUNIST REGIME.
Just shutup and paythe extra $350 you filthy commie. Its fuck-all in the scheme of things
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I think the best thing to do For Silkroad would be the Accounts that were created before the update should still be the same proce and any other account that was created after the suddden price Hike should stay that way, Anyone for that Idea? because its not easy to transfer Bitcoins from Cash to Mtgox then Mtgox to Either Account or Wallet then account. this is a process of more then 7days.
Dose anyone else agree with me?
COMMUNIST REGIME.
Just shutup and paythe extra $350 you filthy commie. Its fuck-all in the scheme of things
Thats just about my profit ill be making going to SR and all i'll be doing is selling Purple Kush
COMMUNIST REGIME.
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I think the best thing to do For Silkroad would be the Accounts that were created before the update should still be the same proce and any other account that was created after the suddden price Hike should stay that way, Anyone for that Idea? because its not easy to transfer Bitcoins from Cash to Mtgox then Mtgox to Either Account or Wallet then account. this is a process of more then 7days.
Dose anyone else agree with me?
COMMUNIST REGIME.
Just shutup and paythe extra $350 you filthy commie. Its fuck-all in the scheme of things
Thats just about my profit ill be making going to SR and all i'll be doing is selling Purple Kush
COMMUNIST REGIME.
Then dont bother....
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Bout fucking time.
Couldnt agree more, Now time to startr charging for buyers accounts.
If you were gonna be fucked by a $350 increase in account price then youre business is running on way too small profit margins
In your opinion, what would be the purpose of charging for buyer accounts? Prices for goods on SR are often more expensive that local street prices - even if the quality here is better. Buyers also have to pay fees to convert cash to BTC. What would be the point of adding on yet another expense for buyers?
If you think it would decrease buyer scams, I think it would increase them to a degree. The more someone has to pay for something, the higher their expectation is going to be. They will expect certain rights and a higher level of service if they have to pay to join. There would likely be more disputes initiated by buyers considering the entitlement they would feel.
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Bout fucking time.
Couldnt agree more, Now time to startr charging for buyers accounts.
If you were gonna be fucked by a $350 increase in account price then youre business is running on way too small profit margins
In your opinion, what would be the purpose of charging for buyer accounts? Prices for goods on SR are often more expensive that local street prices - even if the quality here is better. Buyers also have to pay fees to convert cash to BTC. What would be the point of adding on yet another expense for buyers?
If you think it would decrease buyer scams, I think it would increase them to a degree. The more someone has to pay for something, the higher their expectation is going to be. They will expect certain rights and a higher level of service if they have to pay to join. There would likely be more disputes initiated by buyers considering the entitlement they would feel.
Some good points there i agree although it would stop this throwaway account crap that goes on atm
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Bout fucking time.
If you were gonna be fucked by a $350 increase in account price then youre business is running on way too small profit margins
Im not fucked by it.. just didnt expect it, especially after spending all my dime on product when I thought vendor accounts were only 150-200... Not going to deter me as I know there is a huge market here from my product especially at the prices I will be able to let it go for but damn if I wasnt unpleasantly surprised when I saw the rise... Will be up and going after xmas or new years... depends on when I want start having to visit the road on an hourly basis.. may wait til the holidays are over...
I understand the scammer side... If things go well I should be able to get a vendor account in the coming weeks (did not plan on the big price increase or it would have been today).. Hoping to be a new LSD vendor at reasonable prices as everyone else on here (USA domestic) are trying to rape people... Will start a new account for the vendor side of me when I do.. stay on the look out in the coming weeks for free samples when I get the $$ for the vendor account...
speak with the avengers about samples and testing, it will help you tremendously :)
I had planned on this.. I know it will get me a good name as my prices and product will awesome...
I understand the scammer side... If things go well I should be able to get a vendor account in the coming weeks (did not plan on the big price increase or it would have been today).. Hoping to be a new LSD vendor at reasonable prices as everyone else on here (USA domestic) are trying to rape people... Will start a new account for the vendor side of me when I do.. stay on the look out in the coming weeks for free samples when I get the $$ for the vendor account...
Shoot me a pm when you do, I'd be very interested in purchasing from you. Also, if you wanted to make like 1000 in like 2 hours, sell coke. It's retarded expensive on the road, if you undercut everyone by like 50$ a gram(easy as fuck to do), you'd be rich instantly
Will do on the pm and I cant sell coke, I like it too much :o
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I think the best thing to do For Silkroad would be the Accounts that were created before the update should still be the same proce and any other account that was created after the suddden price Hike should stay that way, Anyone for that Idea? because its not easy to transfer Bitcoins from Cash to Mtgox then Mtgox to Either Account or Wallet then account. this is a process of more then 7days.
Dose anyone else agree with me?
COMMUNIST REGIME.
I agree with this. I've been trying to fork together the money for a vendor account as I have some quite rare items. Once I've sold all these there won't be any more and I won't have rare items for sale. therefor I'm practically giving all my earnings to SR.
I have alot of christmas presents and other stuff to buy since I've just moved into my own place.
I don't even have a christmas tree..
Why not charge buyers a small monthly fee. SR is raping us enough already with regards to fee's and other expenses.
With regards to scammers, thats no reason to persecute everyone else. That's completely unreasonable. You're becoming like a government.
Thanks for the website n all, but I'd rather take my chances selling on the clearwebs.
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I have seen vendors not using PGP, not having the product they are offering and demanding FE from day one and not getting banned for 30 days.
I for one applaud the raising of the bar for vendors.
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Gee, lucky me!
I was discussing earlier that I thought ~150 dollars was a lot already + all the kind of unknown fees.
Still investing and losing money by selling and sending. So it will take quite some time to regain the fee for becoming a seller and new supplies etc.
I truly feel sorry for you :-\
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This is good. This just means that all the potential scammers will be discouraged from doing their thang!
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Gee, lucky me!
I was discussing earlier that I thought ~150 dollars was a lot already + all the kind of unknown fees.
Still investing and losing money by selling and sending. So it will take quite some time to regain the fee for becoming a seller and new supplies etc.
I truly feel sorry for you :-\
If it takes you "quite some time" to get about $800 (basic start up, fee, packaging material, postage costs for initial orders) then GTFO.
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Gee, lucky me!
I was discussing earlier that I thought ~150 dollars was a lot already + all the kind of unknown fees.
Still investing and losing money by selling and sending. So it will take quite some time to regain the fee for becoming a seller and new supplies etc.
I truly feel sorry for you :-\
If it takes you "quite some time" to get about $800 (basic start up, fee, packaging material, postage costs for initial orders) then GTFO.
I think we can all be nice here, all were saying is or i guess in saying is, we didn't know about the sudden hike in price and i surely didnt, i made all my baggies and everything ready and now i have to wait longer and also find a connect for Coke because marijuana will deff not get me 500 in profit with just selling gram's and Eighths. a little notice on the "become a seller" section advising the next price change would of been nice that's all.
COMMUNIST REGIME.
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Gee, lucky me!
I was discussing earlier that I thought ~150 dollars was a lot already + all the kind of unknown fees.
Still investing and losing money by selling and sending. So it will take quite some time to regain the fee for becoming a seller and new supplies etc.
I truly feel sorry for you :-\
If it takes you "quite some time" to get about $800 (basic start up, fee, packaging material, postage costs for initial orders) then GTFO.
I think we can all be nice here, all were saying is or i guess in saying is, we didn't know about the sudden hike in price and i surely didnt, i made all my baggies and everything ready and now i have to wait longer and also find a connect for Coke because marijuana will deff not get me 500 in profit with just selling gram's and Eighths. a little notice on the "become a seller" section advising the next price change would of been nice that's all.
COMMUNIST REGIME.
No I'm not going to be nice, I'm going to stick with what I said. :) From what you are saying you're gunna be far too nickle-and-dime for SR anyway.
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Gee, lucky me!
I was discussing earlier that I thought ~150 dollars was a lot already + all the kind of unknown fees.
Still investing and losing money by selling and sending. So it will take quite some time to regain the fee for becoming a seller and new supplies etc.
I truly feel sorry for you :-\
If it takes you "quite some time" to get about $800 (basic start up, fee, packaging material, postage costs for initial orders) then GTFO.
I think we can all be nice here, all were saying is or i guess in saying is, we didn't know about the sudden hike in price and i surely didnt, i made all my baggies and everything ready and now i have to wait longer and also find a connect for Coke because marijuana will deff not get me 500 in profit with just selling gram's and Eighths. a little notice on the "become a seller" section advising the next price change would of been nice that's all.
COMMUNIST REGIME.
No I'm not going to be nice, I'm going to stick with what I said. :) From what you are saying you're gunna be far too nickle-and-dime for SR anyway.
Well i mean I've on SR for a while now its just that things like that should be either announced on the Page to inform people what will soon come to happen and in all kindness i find it very "idgaf" attitude SR has to this sudden Price raise, don't get me wrong if i was the owner i wouldn't care what people would say also but id sure to make a note of it before raising the price.
COMMUNIST REGIME.
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If you want a communist regime why exactly are you entering into a capitalist enterprise? Or is this one of those "Gotta be left to be cool" sitches? Let me guess, Che poster in your room and you have read the Communist Manifesto and think that Marx didn't have a theory about what would happen so you could fill in the blanks? Have fun with that one...
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Is the it a fee to sell on here or do they hold it in a escrow?? either way I will pay it but was just wondering.. Thanks
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I think this is an idea that will pay off in the long term. Not all facism is bad facism, the silk road is a true example of this. Anyone can raise 150 without a problem, however you must put a little more planning into 500.
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Is it Just me Or Did Silkroad Just Raise the Price to become a Seller?, i remember it was ฿12-13 now its ฿36.52
Can Someone verify please because i just got my money Ready to Become a seller and now the Price just Jumped Unbelievably High!
COMMUNIST REGIME.
The price-increase happened shortly after I sent DPR a PM detailing the many reasons why it would be a good idea to increase the price(makes it harder for scammers to earn a profit, unprepared vendors will now think twice instead of jumping in without preperation), and also pointing a finger at the MTLJohn-cunt laughing about how he bought two seller's accounts right after his was banned. (Something that happened shortly after I sent DPR a message showing how John was threatening to go bat-to-skull on another vendor.)
So... yeah, the point is... MTLJohn is such a fucknugget that DPR increased the vendor-fee because of him, or so it appears.
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Is it Just me Or Did Silkroad Just Raise the Price to become a Seller?, i remember it was ฿12-13 now its ฿36.52
Can Someone verify please because i just got my money Ready to Become a seller and now the Price just Jumped Unbelievably High!
COMMUNIST REGIME.
The price-increase happened shortly after I sent DPR a PM detailing the many reasons why it would be a good idea to increase the price(makes it harder for scammers to earn a profit, unprepared vendors will now think twice instead of jumping in without preperation), and also pointing a finger at the MTLJohn-cunt laughing about how he bought two seller's accounts right after his was banned. (Something that happened shortly after I sent DPR a message showing how John was threatening to go bat-to-skull on another vendor.)
So... yeah, the point is... MTLJohn is such a fucknugget that DPR increased the vendor-fee because of him, or so it appears.
I think that idea is awesome but for accounts that have already been made before the update should stay the same price, because i made my account to become a seller 30days ago and just as soon as i was done making my stealth packages SR raised the price, i was going to transfer the btc i had in a buyer account that i owned and become a Vendor but now the sudden price, i have to reconsider because i really cant afford the price.
COMMUNIST REGIME.
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Is it Just me Or Did Silkroad Just Raise the Price to become a Seller?, i remember it was ฿12-13 now its ฿36.52
Can Someone verify please because i just got my money Ready to Become a seller and now the Price just Jumped Unbelievably High!
COMMUNIST REGIME.
The price-increase happened shortly after I sent DPR a PM detailing the many reasons why it would be a good idea to increase the price(makes it harder for scammers to earn a profit, unprepared vendors will now think twice instead of jumping in without preperation), and also pointing a finger at the MTLJohn-cunt laughing about how he bought two seller's accounts right after his was banned. (Something that happened shortly after I sent DPR a message showing how John was threatening to go bat-to-skull on another vendor.)
So... yeah, the point is... MTLJohn is such a fucknugget that DPR increased the vendor-fee because of him, or so it appears.
I think that idea is awesome but for accounts that have already been made before the update should stay the same price, because i made my account to become a seller 30days ago and just as soon as i was done making my stealth packages SR raised the price, i was going to transfer the btc i had in a buyer account that i owned and become a Vendor but now the sudden price, i have to reconsider because i really cant afford the price.
COMMUNIST REGIME.
Vendor accounts purchased before the change were not charged an additional amount. It was changed for new vendors. Otherwise people would do like you then sell their accounts. It would destroy the purpose of the increase; ie, keeping fucknuggets like MTLJohn away, and making it harder for scammers to earn a profit.
Understand? The fault is your own. You did not purchase your vendor account when the price was low. You also did not get a vendor account when they were just a button-click to acquire. I did. Everyone in the early market could become a vendor for just a click. Then...
Then someone sent DPR a message. They said they would register as a seller and send dangerous chemicals, lethal powders, as free samples of cocaine. DPR realized that the risk of such a thing was too great and instituted an auction, at first. Only the one who was willing to pay the most would get a vendor account. Only one account every two days. Mitanox was the first to purchase an account and he paid... well, I don't remember. Some time later everything settled on the account-fee for $150. As the scammers have shown us, that was not high enough.
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well then i guess im fucked. now i have to wait for my MDMA and make some damn money and come back and try to join because $500 is a lot and who is there to say that SR will last any longer...i hope it dose.
COMMUNIST REGIME.
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If the purpose of the hike is just to discourage scammers, then why not offer a rebate to genuine vendors after they have a certain amount of successful transactions?
Or at least, accounts that were registered before the increase.
The only people who agree with the hike are either Vendors themself, or are buyers with no intention of ever becoming a seller.
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well then i guess im fucked. now i have to wait for my MDMA and make some damn money and come back and try to join because $500 is a lot and who is there to say that SR will last any longer...i hope it dose.
COMMUNIST REGIME.
You're not fucked, you're a liability. If you can't afford the $500 for a vendors account then you obviously can't afford the tens of thousands for a lawyer. Which suggests there's a good chance you'll roll on any big customers to get some time taken off. They're doing you a favour.
Moshka I love you man.
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I am personally glad that they raised the price. I just got scammed for the first time on SR by a vendor called Pills4Less. Apparently he scammed at least 4 other guys out of an estimated $2000+ in one week, claiming that he was selling bitcoins. Well we sent the money and he never delivered the bitcoins. Hopefully this price increase will help to deter scammers like this in the future.
http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=93334.msg660380#msg660380
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well then i guess im fucked. now i have to wait for my MDMA and make some damn money and come back and try to join because $500 is a lot and who is there to say that SR will last any longer...i hope it dose.
COMMUNIST REGIME.
In some senses 500$ is a lot of money.. but in the drug game, its not much at all... If this is a really big hassle for you to get then I doubt you have the capacity to supply a whole community with any profitable outcome.. Maybe SR isnt for you right now... I know I said I was turned off by the price raise and will be delaying my joining as a vendor but not because I dont have 500$ for the account, its that I allocate my monies for differing things in order to remain living my rather comfortable life that I do and with the holidays right around the corner 500$ is not in the drug dealing budget at this moment until I finish pushing my current product locally... Just a thought..
Not bashing you, just my collective opinion from what has been typed so far in this forum.. I patiently await your rebuttal..
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This must be a fucking joke... Today i wanted to buy a seller account, like i was planning this since Month... fuck.
About the usual clown´s who are bullshitting like "better scam protection" and "If you are a seller then pay it bitch"
At first, who is scamming on the road ? Big seller with high reputation like adam420, first sending out goods, and then scam. Mostly one NL group who made every 1-2 Month a new account. And do you really think that professionell scammers will stop it cause they need to pay now 380€ more ? nope.
The second thing, before you play Mr. bigmouth, become a seller and buy goods, package, tool´s ect. and then pay 400€ for a account. No ? Then dont talk about thing´s you dont know... Also let you grow some balls, affont people you dont know doesnt make you harder or cooler.
About me, if SR don´t go back to old prices in near future i will find other domnestic seller for working together.
About SR, dont know how long it will take until they go back to old prices, but they will do it for sure. The most charme about SR are the many little seller who are just starting online business, this will not happen any more in future, SR only for big dealer ? Have fun.
enough said.
PS: The guy´s who just bought a seller account for the old price... you will burn in hell for this^^
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This must be a fucking joke... Today i wanted to buy a seller account, like i was planning this since Month... fuck.
About the usual clown´s who are bullshitting like "better scam protection" and "If you are a seller then pay it bitch"
At first, who is scamming on the road ? Big seller with high reputation like adam420, first sending out goods, and then scam. Mostly one NL group who made every 1-2 Month a new account. And do you really think that professionell scammers will stop it cause they need to pay now 380€ more ? nope.
The second thing, before you play Mr. bigmouth, become a seller and buy goods, package, tool´s ect. and then pay 400€ for a account. No ? Then dont talk about thing´s you dont know... Also let you grow some balls, affont people you dont know doesnt make you harder or cooler.
About me, if SR don´t go back to old prices in near future i will find other domnestic seller for working together.
About SR, dont know how long it will take until they go back to old prices, but they will do it for sure. The most charme about SR are the many little seller who are just starting online business, this will not happen any more in future, SR only for big dealer ? Have fun.
enough said.
PS: The guy´s who just bought a seller account for the old price... you will burn in hell for this^^
I think I speak for most of the people in this thread. SHUT THEEEE FUCK UP!!!!!
If you cant pay the fee OH FUCKING WELL. Its not your right to vend on SR its a privilege.
So if you dont like it, vend else where.
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This must be a fucking joke... Today i wanted to buy a seller account, like i was planning this since Month... fuck.
About the usual clown´s who are bullshitting like "better scam protection" and "If you are a seller then pay it bitch"
At first, who is scamming on the road ? Big seller with high reputation like adam420, first sending out goods, and then scam. Mostly one NL group who made every 1-2 Month a new account. And do you really think that professionell scammers will stop it cause they need to pay now 380€ more ? nope.
The second thing, before you play Mr. bigmouth, become a seller and buy goods, package, tool´s ect. and then pay 400€ for a account. No ? Then dont talk about thing´s you dont know... Also let you grow some balls, affont people you dont know doesnt make you harder or cooler.
About me, if SR don´t go back to old prices in near future i will find other domnestic seller for working together.
About SR, dont know how long it will take until they go back to old prices, but they will do it for sure. The most charme about SR are the many little seller who are just starting online business, this will not happen any more in future, SR only for big dealer ? Have fun.
enough said.
PS: The guy´s who just bought a seller account for the old price... you will burn in hell for this^^
Cry me a fucking river, so sick of you entitled fucks whining over every little fucking thing.
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This must be a fucking joke... Today i wanted to buy a seller account, like i was planning this since Month... fuck.
About the usual clown´s who are bullshitting like "better scam protection" and "If you are a seller then pay it bitch"
At first, who is scamming on the road ? Big seller with high reputation like adam420, first sending out goods, and then scam. Mostly one NL group who made every 1-2 Month a new account. And do you really think that professionell scammers will stop it cause they need to pay now 380€ more ? nope.
The second thing, before you play Mr. bigmouth, become a seller and buy goods, package, tool´s ect. and then pay 400€ for a account. No ? Then dont talk about thing´s you dont know... Also let you grow some balls, affont people you dont know doesnt make you harder or cooler.
About me, if SR don´t go back to old prices in near future i will find other domnestic seller for working together.
About SR, dont know how long it will take until they go back to old prices, but they will do it for sure. The most charme about SR are the many little seller who are just starting online business, this will not happen any more in future, SR only for big dealer ? Have fun.
enough said.
PS: The guy´s who just bought a seller account for the old price... you will burn in hell for this^^
Lol fuck off you cheap bastard.
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This must be a fucking joke... Today i wanted to buy a seller account, like i was planning this since Month... fuck.
About the usual clown´s who are bullshitting like "better scam protection" and "If you are a seller then pay it bitch"
At first, who is scamming on the road ? Big seller with high reputation like adam420, first sending out goods, and then scam. Mostly one NL group who made every 1-2 Month a new account. And do you really think that professionell scammers will stop it cause they need to pay now 380€ more ? nope.
The second thing, before you play Mr. bigmouth, become a seller and buy goods, package, tool´s ect. and then pay 400€ for a account. No ? Then dont talk about thing´s you dont know... Also let you grow some balls, affont people you dont know doesnt make you harder or cooler.
About me, if SR don´t go back to old prices in near future i will find other domnestic seller for working together.
About SR, dont know how long it will take until they go back to old prices, but they will do it for sure. The most charme about SR are the many little seller who are just starting online business, this will not happen any more in future, SR only for big dealer ? Have fun.
enough said.
PS: The guy´s who just bought a seller account for the old price... you will burn in hell for this^^
I think I speak for most of the people in this thread. SHUT THEEEE FUCK UP!!!!!
If you cant pay the fee OH FUCKING WELL. Its not your right to vend on SR its a privilege.
So if you dont like it, vend else where.
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This must be a fucking joke... Today i wanted to buy a seller account, like i was planning this since Month... fuck.
About the usual clown´s who are bullshitting like "better scam protection" and "If you are a seller then pay it bitch"
At first, who is scamming on the road ? Big seller with high reputation like adam420, first sending out goods, and then scam. Mostly one NL group who made every 1-2 Month a new account. And do you really think that professionell scammers will stop it cause they need to pay now 380€ more ? nope.
The second thing, before you play Mr. bigmouth, become a seller and buy goods, package, tool´s ect. and then pay 400€ for a account. No ? Then dont talk about thing´s you dont know... Also let you grow some balls, affont people you dont know doesnt make you harder or cooler.
About me, if SR don´t go back to old prices in near future i will find other domnestic seller for working together.
About SR, dont know how long it will take until they go back to old prices, but they will do it for sure. The most charme about SR are the many little seller who are just starting online business, this will not happen any more in future, SR only for big dealer ? Have fun.
enough said.
PS: The guy´s who just bought a seller account for the old price... you will burn in hell for this^^
Cry me a fucking river, so sick of you entitled fucks whining over every little fucking thing.
This also
This must be a fucking joke... Today i wanted to buy a seller account, like i was planning this since Month... fuck.
About the usual clown´s who are bullshitting like "better scam protection" and "If you are a seller then pay it bitch"
At first, who is scamming on the road ? Big seller with high reputation like adam420, first sending out goods, and then scam. Mostly one NL group who made every 1-2 Month a new account. And do you really think that professionell scammers will stop it cause they need to pay now 380€ more ? nope.
The second thing, before you play Mr. bigmouth, become a seller and buy goods, package, tool´s ect. and then pay 400€ for a account. No ? Then dont talk about thing´s you dont know... Also let you grow some balls, affont people you dont know doesnt make you harder or cooler.
About me, if SR don´t go back to old prices in near future i will find other domnestic seller for working together.
About SR, dont know how long it will take until they go back to old prices, but they will do it for sure. The most charme about SR are the many little seller who are just starting online business, this will not happen any more in future, SR only for big dealer ? Have fun.
enough said.
PS: The guy´s who just bought a seller account for the old price... you will burn in hell for this^^
Lol fuck off you cheap bastard.
Oh yea, and this...
QFT lol
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This must be a fucking joke... Today i wanted to buy a seller account, like i was planning this since Month... fuck.
About the usual clown´s who are bullshitting like "better scam protection" and "If you are a seller then pay it bitch"
At first, who is scamming on the road ? Big seller with high reputation like adam420, first sending out goods, and then scam. Mostly one NL group who made every 1-2 Month a new account. And do you really think that professionell scammers will stop it cause they need to pay now 380€ more ? nope.
The second thing, before you play Mr. bigmouth, become a seller and buy goods, package, tool´s ect. and then pay 400€ for a account. No ? Then dont talk about thing´s you dont know... Also let you grow some balls, affont people you dont know doesnt make you harder or cooler.
About me, if SR don´t go back to old prices in near future i will find other domnestic seller for working together.
About SR, dont know how long it will take until they go back to old prices, but they will do it for sure. The most charme about SR are the many little seller who are just starting online business, this will not happen any more in future, SR only for big dealer ? Have fun.
enough said.
PS: The guy´s who just bought a seller account for the old price... you will burn in hell for this^^
I think I speak for most of the people in this thread. SHUT THEEEE FUCK UP!!!!!
If you cant pay the fee OH FUCKING WELL. Its not your right to vend on SR its a privilege.
So if you dont like it, vend else where.
This
This must be a fucking joke... Today i wanted to buy a seller account, like i was planning this since Month... fuck.
About the usual clown´s who are bullshitting like "better scam protection" and "If you are a seller then pay it bitch"
At first, who is scamming on the road ? Big seller with high reputation like adam420, first sending out goods, and then scam. Mostly one NL group who made every 1-2 Month a new account. And do you really think that professionell scammers will stop it cause they need to pay now 380€ more ? nope.
The second thing, before you play Mr. bigmouth, become a seller and buy goods, package, tool´s ect. and then pay 400€ for a account. No ? Then dont talk about thing´s you dont know... Also let you grow some balls, affont people you dont know doesnt make you harder or cooler.
About me, if SR don´t go back to old prices in near future i will find other domnestic seller for working together.
About SR, dont know how long it will take until they go back to old prices, but they will do it for sure. The most charme about SR are the many little seller who are just starting online business, this will not happen any more in future, SR only for big dealer ? Have fun.
enough said.
PS: The guy´s who just bought a seller account for the old price... you will burn in hell for this^^
Cry me a fucking river, so sick of you entitled fucks whining over every little fucking thing.
This also
This must be a fucking joke... Today i wanted to buy a seller account, like i was planning this since Month... fuck.
About the usual clown´s who are bullshitting like "better scam protection" and "If you are a seller then pay it bitch"
At first, who is scamming on the road ? Big seller with high reputation like adam420, first sending out goods, and then scam. Mostly one NL group who made every 1-2 Month a new account. And do you really think that professionell scammers will stop it cause they need to pay now 380€ more ? nope.
The second thing, before you play Mr. bigmouth, become a seller and buy goods, package, tool´s ect. and then pay 400€ for a account. No ? Then dont talk about thing´s you dont know... Also let you grow some balls, affont people you dont know doesnt make you harder or cooler.
About me, if SR don´t go back to old prices in near future i will find other domnestic seller for working together.
About SR, dont know how long it will take until they go back to old prices, but they will do it for sure. The most charme about SR are the many little seller who are just starting online business, this will not happen any more in future, SR only for big dealer ? Have fun.
enough said.
PS: The guy´s who just bought a seller account for the old price... you will burn in hell for this^^
Lol fuck off you cheap bastard.
Oh yea, and this...
QFT lol
Lol I tell you what, if this "crev" fellow posts in capital letters the following - CHEAP LITTLE BASTARDS LIKE ME SHOULD NOT BE ALLOWED TO VEND NOW SHOULD MY MOTHER HAVE SPARED THE EXPENSE TO HAVE ME FORCE MY WAY OUT OF HER VAGINA - I'll pay for him to get a vendor account. LOL
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Why so much hate for small vendors?
I can think of scenarios where this is bad idea, what if for example a guy wanted to sell a few g's of mescaline? There is demand for mesc and noone sells ecxtracted atm, but unless he was pushing serious quantities it wouldn't be affordable. The same thing for EU shroom vendors, their sales are too small to pay for such expensive registration, they would'nt exist if it was that expensive from the beginning. Note that small doesn't mean bad, they have excellent feedback.
As a buyer I think we could be missing out some good deals.
On the other hand 500$ is still not a big deal for scammers who make thousands in a few days.
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Why so much hate for small vendors?
I can think of scenarios where this is bad idea, what if for example a guy wanted to sell a few g's of mescaline? There is demand for mesc and noone sells ecxtracted atm, but unless he was pushing serious quantities it wouldn't be affordable. The same thing for EU shroom vendors, their sales are too small to pay for such expensive registration, they would'nt exist if it was that expensive from the beginning. Note that small doesn't mean bad, they have excellent feedback.
As a buyer I think we could be missing out some good deals.
On the other hand 500$ is still not a big deal for scammers who make thousands in a few days.
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Why so much hate for small vendors?
I can think of scenarios where this is bad idea, what if for example a guy wanted to sell a few g's of mescaline? There is demand for mesc and noone sells ecxtracted atm, but unless he was pushing serious quantities it wouldn't be affordable. The same thing for EU shroom vendors, their sales are too small to pay for such expensive registration, they would'nt exist if it was that expensive from the beginning. Note that small doesn't mean bad, they have excellent feedback.
As a buyer I think we could be missing out some good deals.
On the other hand 500$ is still not a big deal for scammers who make thousands in a few days.
If a guy only has a few G's of anything the road is not for them.. This is a whole community of people, though I wont try to guess the amount of actual buyers here I would be comfortable in saying it is probably more than 1000 people.. This place is not for small fish trying to start something from nothing, this is for people that want/can supply the masses or whats the point?? Small fish need to stay in their pond if they cant handle the currents of the ocean...
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Why so much hate for small vendors?
I can think of scenarios where this is bad idea, what if for example a guy wanted to sell a few g's of mescaline? There is demand for mesc and noone sells ecxtracted atm, but unless he was pushing serious quantities it wouldn't be affordable. The same thing for EU shroom vendors, their sales are too small to pay for such expensive registration, they would'nt exist if it was that expensive from the beginning. Note that small doesn't mean bad, they have excellent feedback.
As a buyer I think we could be missing out some good deals.
On the other hand 500$ is still not a big deal for scammers who make thousands in a few days.
If a guy only has a few G's of anything the road is not for them.. This is a whole community of people, though I wont try to guess the amount of actual buyers here I would be comfortable in saying it is probably more than 1000 people.. This place is not for small fish trying to start something from nothing, this is for people that want/can supply the masses or whats the point?? Small fish need to stay in their pond if they cant handle the currents of the ocean...
Spot on.
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Why so much hate for small vendors?
I can think of scenarios where this is bad idea, what if for example a guy wanted to sell a few g's of mescaline? There is demand for mesc and noone sells ecxtracted atm, but unless he was pushing serious quantities it wouldn't be affordable. The same thing for EU shroom vendors, their sales are too small to pay for such expensive registration, they would'nt exist if it was that expensive from the beginning. Note that small doesn't mean bad, they have excellent feedback.
As a buyer I think we could be missing out some good deals.
On the other hand 500$ is still not a big deal for scammers who make thousands in a few days.
If a guy only has a few G's of anything the road is not for them.. This is a whole community of people, though I wont try to guess the amount of actual buyers here I would be comfortable in saying it is probably more than 1000 people.. This place is not for small fish trying to start something from nothing, this is for people that want/can supply the masses or whats the point?? Small fish need to stay in their pond if they cant handle the currents of the ocean...
So fucking true. This isn't for small dealers. Sure there are some that it works out for, but there are exceptions to every rule. If you are selling shit and can't come up with or justify $500 than get the fuck out. WTF are you selling that 10-12 units doesn't equal $500? Pills are maybe the only thing, but if you think you are gonna come here and ball off your monthly script of 90 percs, get real. Honestly, kudos to anyone doing small, tedious sales here. Everyone has a budget and small quantities can be a lifesaver sometimes. But this is not the place to hone your craft. If you sign up for this gig you better be damn serious about it to succeed. The $500 fee is just a reflection of that.
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Gee, lucky me!
I was discussing earlier that I thought ~150 dollars was a lot already + all the kind of unknown fees.
Still investing and losing money by selling and sending. So it will take quite some time to regain the fee for becoming a seller and new supplies etc.
I truly feel sorry for you :-\
If it takes you "quite some time" to get about $800 (basic start up, fee, packaging material, postage costs for initial orders) then GTFO.
Could you give any argumentation on that?
Not everybody starts rich and can invest $1000 to give away free samples and get 300+ positive transactions and feedback + give extra's.
Some people start from scratch. And I personally think that most prices on SR are ridiculous. Usually 2-3 times too high. Sometimes even up to 100 and even then some people buy those products.
We want to sell only quality stuff for low-reasonable prices. Low budget to invest. So things take quite some time. What the hell is wrong with that, and with you for saying that? Why are you being so judgmental and negative about how we start as a vendor?
We lose money at first. We will never scam. We will always do our best to make sure the package arrives, fast and in good condition. We answer all the questions people have about whatever substances. And you are telling us to gtfo?
No I'm not going to be nice, I'm going to stick with what I said. :) From what you are saying you're gunna be far too nickle-and-dime for SR anyway.
Oh, so all vendors should make lots of money and sell products for at least 2-3 times as much as it's worth. Otherwise they should not be a vendor?
If a guy only has a few G's of anything the road is not for them.. This is a whole community of people, though I wont try to guess the amount of actual buyers here I would be comfortable in saying it is probably more than 1000 people.. This place is not for small fish trying to start something from nothing, this is for people that want/can supply the masses or whats the point?? Small fish need to stay in their pond if they cant handle the currents of the ocean...
So fucking true. This isn't for small dealers. Sure there are some that it works out for, but there are exceptions to every rule. If you are selling shit and can't come up with or justify $500 than get the fuck out. WTF are you selling that 10-12 units doesn't equal $500? Pills are maybe the only thing, but if you think you are gonna come here and ball off your monthly script of 90 percs, get real. Honestly, kudos to anyone doing small, tedious sales here. Everyone has a budget and small quantities can be a lifesaver sometimes. But this is not the place to hone your craft. If you sign up for this gig you better be damn serious about it to succeed. The $500 fee is just a reflection of that.
Jezus christ what the fuck is wrong with you people. This is a COMMUNITY of people. For everyone. Big fish, small fish, what the fuck does it matter?
Big fish sells small amounts for 4 times the price as a small fish does. Small fish has good intentions and wants people to have a nice time with quality stuff for normal prices. Big fish only thinks about money and only sells products at normal prices with quantities of 100+. What the hell? Some people just want to try something out and need to pay 10 times as much for 1-10 items just because the person is not a reseller, big time recreational user or junky?
This discrimination is retarded and I hope that people with brains can see this. Every sort of fish is and should be welcome. Except for scammers ofcourse.
You people saying small fish should stay away must be insane. Look at limetless. He sells 5-MEO-MIPT HCL 250mg $110.49 While it costs him about $28,512. He's a big fish, yeah I can understand that. Just sell stuff for 10x the price and get rich in no time.
I'm seriously amazed how people promote vendors who sell their stuff for 1000% of the actual price. And talk bad about vendors who sell the same stuff for less.
Perhaps we should take our prices and multiply them by 10 as well. We'd become big fish, and then we are welcome here...
I simply have no words anymore for this. :o ???
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WTF is wrong with you? http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=93416.45
You sell products for about 4 times the actual price and you're flaming me? You fucking scam people man. And flame on people who use normal prices and make less money?
You only think about yourself and your money. Fucking egotistical bastard. Even if you if you divide your prices by 2 you'd be making a lot of money compared to what you invest before selling. And bash people who sell for lower prices? Probably because you are a jealous greedy bitch and are scared that people who sell for normal prices will cause you to make less money.
You live in the opposite world. In reality vendors like you should not be welcome on SR. After one order of 250mg 5-MEO-MIPT Hcl you could give a at least 3 full refunds or reshipments. And you believe that is normal?
Twisted!
Lol silly boy. :)
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If I would be, I'd rather be that than somebody who thinks he's gangster and scams people by selling them stuff they could get for at least price divided by 4.
Seriously, more than $100 for 250mg.. That is fucking insane. Could you rip off people even more?
I feel sorry for people buying from you. What a waste of money...
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Jezus christ what the fuck is wrong with you people. This is a COMMUNITY of people. For everyone. Big fish, small fish, what the fuck does it matter?
Big fish sells small amounts for 4 times the price as a small fish does. Small fish has good intentions and wants people to have a nice time with quality stuff for normal prices. Big fish only thinks about money and only sells products at normal prices with quantities of 100+. What the hell? Some people just want to try something out and need to pay 10 times as much for 1-10 items just because the person is not a reseller, big time recreational user or junky?
This discrimination is retarded and I hope that people with brains can see this. Every sort of fish is and should be welcome. Except for scammers ofcourse.
You people saying small fish should stay away must be insane. Look at limetless. He sells 5-MEO-MIPT HCL 250mg $110.49 While it costs him about $28,512. He's a big fish, yeah I can understand that. Just sell stuff for 10x the price and get rich in no time.
I'm seriously amazed how people promote vendors who sell their stuff for 1000% of the actual price. And talk bad about vendors who sell the same stuff for less.
Perhaps we should take our prices and multiply them by 10 as well. We'd become big fish, and then we are welcome here...
I simply have no words anymore for this. :o ???
I never said that they cannot be here/deserve to be here.. I said if they can not handle it then this is not for them.. Your first experience getting in this type of biz should not come from the road.. . If you do not have access to capital or product then why are you even trying to sell anything here when you can stay safe and secure in your own home with your own people selling to the same people you have for a while.. If your trying to reach the masses with your product you better damn well have enough to supply them..
Ive said it once, I was not happy about the raise for the price of a vendor account, but if you truly have the capital, supply, and aspirations to sell your product here then you better be prepared to pay the entrance fee.. This is not a free service and no one is entitled to it...
As for limitless's prices, who cares, if you dont like the price then dont buy it.. Its your own option, no one is forcing you... I really love C but will only buy from realistically priced vendors.. I wanna do "so-n-so's" C but fuck you at 500 a ball and thats my choice as is yours and everyone elses.. I see no just point in arguing over another vendors prices..
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Jezus christ what the fuck is wrong with you people. This is a COMMUNITY of people. For everyone. Big fish, small fish, what the fuck does it matter?
Big fish sells small amounts for 4 times the price as a small fish does. Small fish has good intentions and wants people to have a nice time with quality stuff for normal prices. Big fish only thinks about money and only sells products at normal prices with quantities of 100+. What the hell? Some people just want to try something out and need to pay 10 times as much for 1-10 items just because the person is not a reseller, big time recreational user or junky?
This discrimination is retarded and I hope that people with brains can see this. Every sort of fish is and should be welcome. Except for scammers ofcourse.
You people saying small fish should stay away must be insane. Look at limetless. He sells 5-MEO-MIPT HCL 250mg $110.49 While it costs him about $28,512. He's a big fish, yeah I can understand that. Just sell stuff for 10x the price and get rich in no time.
I'm seriously amazed how people promote vendors who sell their stuff for 1000% of the actual price. And talk bad about vendors who sell the same stuff for less.
Perhaps we should take our prices and multiply them by 10 as well. We'd become big fish, and then we are welcome here...
I simply have no words anymore for this. :o ???
I never said that they cannot be here/deserve to be here.. I said if they can not handle it then this is not for them.. Your first experience getting in this type of biz should not come from the road.. . If you do not have access to capital or product then why are you even trying to sell anything here when you can stay safe and secure in your own home with your own people selling to the same people you have for a while.. If your trying to reach the masses with your product you better damn well have enough to supply them..
Ive said it once, I was not happy about the raise for the price of a vendor account, but if you truly have the capital, supply, and aspirations to sell your product here then you better be prepared to pay the entrance fee.. This is not a free service and no one is entitled to it...
As for limitless's prices, who cares, if you dont like the price then dont buy it.. Its your own option, no one is forcing you... I really love C but will only buy from realistically priced vendors.. I wanna do "so-n-so's" C but fuck you at 500 a ball and thats my choice as is yours and everyone elses.. I see no just point in arguing over another vendors prices..
I like you that1guy, you talk sense. :)
And Virmo take care of your own clients and then suck my cock. You have to bare in mind that MOXY is rare in the U.K hence the price tag. It's basically grey area in the U.S. It's called mitigating economic factors. :)
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And lol Virmo you hav done 60 odd transactions. You got no balls yet young man. ;)
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oh, rise of the internetwarrior. But it´s a good example. Scum who cant handle more than one sentence and have a post account which shows they live on internet, can be found everywhere. But this isnt Silk Road, and it shouldnt be.
As i said, i will buy a account in near future. After the situation is clear. Iam just not a asshole, so i complain that little seller who do not much or no drugtrading cant access the road anymore. Whining ? Nope, i just have parents who didnt ignored me in childhood, so my social skills are not retarded.
The pro arguments are the best ones, irony of evolution that they can sit on a chair without dropping.
"No more Scammer" - Professionell scammer buid up reputation with bigger amounts, and then scam. 380€ more vendor cost wont stop them.
"SR is only for big fishes" - Oh, getting old ? Bigmouth for the poor, forget they wasnt born as nobody like everyone else, and now think hes someone better. Ok, only untill they are excluded, then they claim to be discriminated.
"Gangster No.1"... Have a pack of coloured papers and think he is special. Yeah sure, like Paris Hilton...
Just flame on, it dont impress me, i know you need it to push your low self-esteem.
But the best part on the whole story is the situation around it. DPR is unseen, every mod is silenced, the seller price is rising, bitcoins disappearing from accounts... Well, if this really blow up i would like to see the faces of those "big fishes" here how they loose all there money and getting busted, haha, what a bunch of poor idiots.
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I like you that1guy, you talk sense. :)
Every1 likes that 1 guy ;)
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Lol I may have a sharp tongue Crev and maybe yes, it could be considered one of my floors. But yano, who shifts the weight? Who does nearly every serious vendor turn to for ML advice? Who do other vendors turn to for importation consultations? Me, that's who.
So I reckon I'm A O K for now thanks fella. And you will remain what you are, just another cash-cow. :)
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It's basically down to this. People are bitching about the fee being raised and can't understand why it's so high. It's not about little vendors don't belong. I respect every vendor who comes here and does their job, big or small. What it's about is the fact that if you can't cover $500 at this point in your career than SR is not the kind of place you need to be, not right now. $500 in sales is shit in this line of work, and the services provided for that one time payment are easily worth it. You act like the fee is a cash grab, like SR doesn't do shit after that. I mean you could easily go set up your own shit. Secure, complete with escrow and hedging and storefronts and throngs of people to buy your product. But fuck man, that $500 is bull shit! It's not like vendors benefit from it. I've never heard of a dealer getting robbed or killed IRL. Or maybe you could make a sign with product/prices and put it on the corner with a big arrow pointing to you so everyone who passes by can see.
Every service has a fee, don't you charge a fee yourself for your goods? While this service is kind of unknown. No real alternatives to compare prices with. You can talk all that shit about other sites but bottom line, you're here so they aren't really alternatives, are they? If you can't raise the $500 than you really need to take a look at your whole operation and why. You can be small and successful here, but even that is larger than $500 worth.
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Coming from a person who plans on vending on the silk road in the near future...the $500 dollar fee isnt shit when you think about how much more you can sell product here compared to on the streets...with alot less risk involved. Like for instance...if you sell bud in California you know that the most you're going to get for a pound right now of good indoor is like 2500 a pack. People on here are selling green house for 900 a qp. If you can't make money from silkroad...you should stop doing whatever you are doing...and go work at fucking mcdonalds.
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make a 50 % off sellers account on christmas or new year or shit
one last strocke for you DPR
I know you are already shitting gold and wiping your ass with
100 dollar bills / do it for you lovely sr community
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make a 50 % off sellers account on christmas or new year or shit
one last strocke for you DPR
I know you are already shitting gold and wiping your ass with
100 dollar bills / do it for you lovely sr community
Ha! Terrible idea. Everyone would buy accounts to try and sell later. Defeats the purpose.
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I don't consider myself a big vendor by any stretch of the imagination, but seriously $500 is a small amount to pay for the opportunity that is being offered to you.
As has been said, if you cant afford that fee then you are not serious about being a vendor. Getting BTC into cold hard cash can be as tricky as obtaining it when you want to do it anonymously, if you have any sort of cost in obtaining your product then you will need to do this on a regular basis in order to re-stock. If you cant handle $500 then you will not be able to deal with the delay between selling and shipping the product and actually getting the profits in cash.
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Well isnt that funny, someone is willing to sell there SR Account for $400....now i wonder.
Should i... or should i not.
COMMUNIST REGIME.
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If I were you, I would buy it!
As for me, I wish I could have gotten in on the $150 but I tell you what $500 does for would be vendors: if you are smart, it makes you double check and reflect that you are PREPARED for being a vendor.
Money is the driving factor, and lots of it. Next is actually doing it in a medium that is safe. When you get into listing, packaging, scamming, and most importantly converting bitcoins to cash, it's a BUSINESS, a sweet one, but still a business.
I look forward to weighing my options for 2013. The price will not be the determining factor, but will the headache of vending be outweighed by the "pocket ache" of my current lifestyle.
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And lol Virmo you hav done 60 odd transactions. You got no balls yet young man. ;)
Dude, that girl did not reach 60 transactions now, and you posted this about a week ago.
I haven't noticed anything "odd". Unless you call placing an order and getting a product as described is odd?
Then you must be one really odd fellow!
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I think you need your eyes testing sunbeam. :)
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Penis
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we simply need a re-sale market. the floating value of a seat would be a nice reflection of where we are at as a whole.
i'm actually looking for a sellers account and an honest dealing with someone on it would be welcomed.
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well then i guess im fucked. now i have to wait for my MDMA and make some damn money and come back and try to join because $500 is a lot and who is there to say that SR will last any longer...i hope it dose.
COMMUNIST REGIME.
In some senses 500$ is a lot of money.. but in the drug game, its not much at all... If this is a really big hassle for you to get then I doubt you have the capacity to supply a whole community with any profitable outcome.. Maybe SR isnt for you right now... I know I said I was turned off by the price raise and will be delaying my joining as a vendor but not because I dont have 500$ for the account, its that I allocate my monies for differing things in order to remain living my rather comfortable life that I do and with the holidays right around the corner 500$ is not in the drug dealing budget at this moment until I finish pushing my current product locally... Just a thought..
Not bashing you, just my collective opinion from what has been typed so far in this forum.. I patiently await your rebuttal..
Well Supply the whole Community is not a problem for me, as of now the only problem i have is people around my neighborhood have been having a sudden supple of marijuana which has cause a lot of competition, Since i would always grab a pound and break it down, i would get done with it in less than a month with $10 bags which now is almost 2months to almost 3 Since people have been suddenly "coming up" on connects, so that's what brought me to become a vendor on SR for more Customers. I'm not much of a scammer which I'm sure you heard this all before right before someone actually scammed you. but honestly i know this is a personal issue with me coming up with the $500 which i will soon. but as of now i will have to Wait for my MDMA from OldAmsterdam that has been almost 30days in transit.....Supposedly.. but never the less. i have one of the most and almost best ways to get lbs from California to there Destination without getting picked up by the DEA "Fuck Faces". 1 out of 15lbs gets picked up. which to me is not a problem.
PICK UP** Which Reminds me Christmas is Coming up!
God Bless all you people and your loved ones! Merry Christmas!
COMMUNIST REGIME.
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well then i guess im fucked. now i have to wait for my MDMA and make some damn money and come back and try to join because $500 is a lot and who is there to say that SR will last any longer...i hope it dose.
COMMUNIST REGIME.
In some senses 500$ is a lot of money.. but in the drug game, its not much at all... If this is a really big hassle for you to get then I doubt you have the capacity to supply a whole community with any profitable outcome.. Maybe SR isnt for you right now... I know I said I was turned off by the price raise and will be delaying my joining as a vendor but not because I dont have 500$ for the account, its that I allocate my monies for differing things in order to remain living my rather comfortable life that I do and with the holidays right around the corner 500$ is not in the drug dealing budget at this moment until I finish pushing my current product locally... Just a thought..
Not bashing you, just my collective opinion from what has been typed so far in this forum.. I patiently await your rebuttal..
Well Supply the whole Community is not a problem for me, as of now the only problem i have is people around my neighborhood have been having a sudden supple of marijuana which has cause a lot of competition, Since i would always grab a pound and break it down, i would get done with it in less than a month with $10 bags which now is almost 2months to almost 3 Since people have been suddenly "coming up" on connects, so that's what brought me to become a vendor on SR for more Customers. I'm not much of a scammer which I'm sure you heard this all before right before someone actually scammed you. but honestly i know this is a personal issue with me coming up with the $500 which i will soon. but as of now i will have to Wait for my MDMA from OldAmsterdam that has been almost 30days in transit.....Supposedly.. but never the less. i have one of the most and almost best ways to get lbs from California to there Destination without getting picked up by the DEA "Fuck Faces". 1 out of 15lbs gets picked up. which to me is not a problem.
PICK UP** Which Reminds me Christmas is Coming up!
God Bless all you people and your loved ones! Merry Christmas!
COMMUNIST REGIME.
So you move pounds of choof IRL but the $500 account fee is a problem? GTFO
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Sweet. 500$ for a seller account. Now prices ofgoods are going to get even higher. Smells like greed to me. I guess someone wanting to scam 3000$ wont pay the 500 huh? Hell if uou jack the prices up to 1000 theres nooooo waaay some asshole will pay it to scam 10000. Maybe vendors would pay that price if things were a bit more reliable. Takes some nerve to more than double the fee after the recent events on SR
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well then i guess im fucked. now i have to wait for my MDMA and make some damn money and come back and try to join because $500 is a lot and who is there to say that SR will last any longer...i hope it dose.
COMMUNIST REGIME.
In some senses 500$ is a lot of money.. but in the drug game, its not much at all... If this is a really big hassle for you to get then I doubt you have the capacity to supply a whole community with any profitable outcome.. Maybe SR isnt for you right now... I know I said I was turned off by the price raise and will be delaying my joining as a vendor but not because I dont have 500$ for the account, its that I allocate my monies for differing things in order to remain living my rather comfortable life that I do and with the holidays right around the corner 500$ is not in the drug dealing budget at this moment until I finish pushing my current product locally... Just a thought..
Not bashing you, just my collective opinion from what has been typed so far in this forum.. I patiently await your rebuttal..
Well Supply the whole Community is not a problem for me, as of now the only problem i have is people around my neighborhood have been having a sudden supple of marijuana which has cause a lot of competition, Since i would always grab a pound and break it down, i would get done with it in less than a month with $10 bags which now is almost 2months to almost 3 Since people have been suddenly "coming up" on connects, so that's what brought me to become a vendor on SR for more Customers. I'm not much of a scammer which I'm sure you heard this all before right before someone actually scammed you. but honestly i know this is a personal issue with me coming up with the $500 which i will soon. but as of now i will have to Wait for my MDMA from OldAmsterdam that has been almost 30days in transit.....Supposedly.. but never the less. i have one of the most and almost best ways to get lbs from California to there Destination without getting picked up by the DEA "Fuck Faces". 1 out of 15lbs gets picked up. which to me is not a problem.
PICK UP** Which Reminds me Christmas is Coming up!
God Bless all you people and your loved ones! Merry Christmas!
COMMUNIST REGIME.
So you move pounds of choof IRL but the $500 account fee is a problem? GTFO
Lol yeah exactly.
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$500 lol
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well then i guess im fucked. now i have to wait for my MDMA and make some damn money and come back and try to join because $500 is a lot and who is there to say that SR will last any longer...i hope it dose.
COMMUNIST REGIME.
In some senses 500$ is a lot of money.. but in the drug game, its not much at all... If this is a really big hassle for you to get then I doubt you have the capacity to supply a whole community with any profitable outcome.. Maybe SR isnt for you right now... I know I said I was turned off by the price raise and will be delaying my joining as a vendor but not because I dont have 500$ for the account, its that I allocate my monies for differing things in order to remain living my rather comfortable life that I do and with the holidays right around the corner 500$ is not in the drug dealing budget at this moment until I finish pushing my current product locally... Just a thought..
Not bashing you, just my collective opinion from what has been typed so far in this forum.. I patiently await your rebuttal..
Well Supply the whole Community is not a problem for me, as of now the only problem i have is people around my neighborhood have been having a sudden supple of marijuana which has cause a lot of competition, Since i would always grab a pound and break it down, i would get done with it in less than a month with $10 bags which now is almost 2months to almost 3 Since people have been suddenly "coming up" on connects, so that's what brought me to become a vendor on SR for more Customers. I'm not much of a scammer which I'm sure you heard this all before right before someone actually scammed you. but honestly i know this is a personal issue with me coming up with the $500 which i will soon. but as of now i will have to Wait for my MDMA from OldAmsterdam that has been almost 30days in transit.....Supposedly.. but never the less. i have one of the most and almost best ways to get lbs from California to there Destination without getting picked up by the DEA "Fuck Faces". 1 out of 15lbs gets picked up. which to me is not a problem.
PICK UP** Which Reminds me Christmas is Coming up!
God Bless all you people and your loved ones! Merry Christmas!
COMMUNIST REGIME.
So you move pounds of choof IRL but the $500 account fee is a problem? GTFO
Hey Dick Face, calm your tits down with all due respect. you don't know my financial problems cock sucker, i pay medical fuckin bills up the ass trying to get the best medical attention i can for my mother. and no this is not a "feel bad for me" fucking story but go fuck yourself.
You don't know shit. i stated that I'll have to make some more money and come back as a vendor.
I apologize to other forum members for my outburst but people like him get me mad with there Bs "GTFO" comments that don't help anyone except boost there self confidence thinking there tough shit.
COMMUNIST REGIME.
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well then i guess im fucked. now i have to wait for my MDMA and make some damn money and come back and try to join because $500 is a lot and who is there to say that SR will last any longer...i hope it dose.
COMMUNIST REGIME.
In some senses 500$ is a lot of money.. but in the drug game, its not much at all... If this is a really big hassle for you to get then I doubt you have the capacity to supply a whole community with any profitable outcome.. Maybe SR isnt for you right now... I know I said I was turned off by the price raise and will be delaying my joining as a vendor but not because I dont have 500$ for the account, its that I allocate my monies for differing things in order to remain living my rather comfortable life that I do and with the holidays right around the corner 500$ is not in the drug dealing budget at this moment until I finish pushing my current product locally... Just a thought..
Not bashing you, just my collective opinion from what has been typed so far in this forum.. I patiently await your rebuttal..
Well Supply the whole Community is not a problem for me, as of now the only problem i have is people around my neighborhood have been having a sudden supple of marijuana which has cause a lot of competition, Since i would always grab a pound and break it down, i would get done with it in less than a month with $10 bags which now is almost 2months to almost 3 Since people have been suddenly "coming up" on connects, so that's what brought me to become a vendor on SR for more Customers. I'm not much of a scammer which I'm sure you heard this all before right before someone actually scammed you. but honestly i know this is a personal issue with me coming up with the $500 which i will soon. but as of now i will have to Wait for my MDMA from OldAmsterdam that has been almost 30days in transit.....Supposedly.. but never the less. i have one of the most and almost best ways to get lbs from California to there Destination without getting picked up by the DEA "Fuck Faces". 1 out of 15lbs gets picked up. which to me is not a problem.
PICK UP** Which Reminds me Christmas is Coming up!
God Bless all you people and your loved ones! Merry Christmas!
COMMUNIST REGIME.
So you move pounds of choof IRL but the $500 account fee is a problem? GTFO
Hey Dick Face, calm your tits down with all due respect. you don't know my financial problems cock sucker, i pay medical fuckin bills up the ass trying to get the best medical attention i can for my mother. and no this is not a "feel bad for me" fucking story but go fuck yourself.
You don't know shit. i stated that I'll have to make some more money and come back as a vendor.
I apologize to other forum members for my outburst but people like him get me mad with there Bs "GTFO" comments that don't help anyone except boost there self confidence thinking there tough shit.
COMMUNIST REGIME.
yeah im the toughest guy on the anonymous internet
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well then i guess im fucked. now i have to wait for my MDMA and make some damn money and come back and try to join because $500 is a lot and who is there to say that SR will last any longer...i hope it dose.
COMMUNIST REGIME.
In some senses 500$ is a lot of money.. but in the drug game, its not much at all... If this is a really big hassle for you to get then I doubt you have the capacity to supply a whole community with any profitable outcome.. Maybe SR isnt for you right now... I know I said I was turned off by the price raise and will be delaying my joining as a vendor but not because I dont have 500$ for the account, its that I allocate my monies for differing things in order to remain living my rather comfortable life that I do and with the holidays right around the corner 500$ is not in the drug dealing budget at this moment until I finish pushing my current product locally... Just a thought..
Not bashing you, just my collective opinion from what has been typed so far in this forum.. I patiently await your rebuttal..
Well Supply the whole Community is not a problem for me, as of now the only problem i have is people around my neighborhood have been having a sudden supple of marijuana which has cause a lot of competition, Since i would always grab a pound and break it down, i would get done with it in less than a month with $10 bags which now is almost 2months to almost 3 Since people have been suddenly "coming up" on connects, so that's what brought me to become a vendor on SR for more Customers. I'm not much of a scammer which I'm sure you heard this all before right before someone actually scammed you. but honestly i know this is a personal issue with me coming up with the $500 which i will soon. but as of now i will have to Wait for my MDMA from OldAmsterdam that has been almost 30days in transit.....Supposedly.. but never the less. i have one of the most and almost best ways to get lbs from California to there Destination without getting picked up by the DEA "Fuck Faces". 1 out of 15lbs gets picked up. which to me is not a problem.
PICK UP** Which Reminds me Christmas is Coming up!
God Bless all you people and your loved ones! Merry Christmas!
COMMUNIST REGIME.
So you move pounds of choof IRL but the $500 account fee is a problem? GTFO
Hey Dick Face, calm your tits down with all due respect. you don't know my financial problems cock sucker, i pay medical fuckin bills up the ass trying to get the best medical attention i can for my mother. and no this is not a "feel bad for me" fucking story but go fuck yourself.
You don't know shit. i stated that I'll have to make some more money and come back as a vendor.
I apologize to other forum members for my outburst but people like him get me mad with there Bs "GTFO" comments that don't help anyone except boost there self confidence thinking there tough shit.
COMMUNIST REGIME.
yeah im the toughest guy on the anonymous internet
Your one Pathetic little man.
COMMUNIST REGIME.
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well then i guess im fucked. now i have to wait for my MDMA and make some damn money and come back and try to join because $500 is a lot and who is there to say that SR will last any longer...i hope it dose.
COMMUNIST REGIME.
In some senses 500$ is a lot of money.. but in the drug game, its not much at all... If this is a really big hassle for you to get then I doubt you have the capacity to supply a whole community with any profitable outcome.. Maybe SR isnt for you right now... I know I said I was turned off by the price raise and will be delaying my joining as a vendor but not because I dont have 500$ for the account, its that I allocate my monies for differing things in order to remain living my rather comfortable life that I do and with the holidays right around the corner 500$ is not in the drug dealing budget at this moment until I finish pushing my current product locally... Just a thought..
Not bashing you, just my collective opinion from what has been typed so far in this forum.. I patiently await your rebuttal..
Well Supply the whole Community is not a problem for me, as of now the only problem i have is people around my neighborhood have been having a sudden supple of marijuana which has cause a lot of competition, Since i would always grab a pound and break it down, i would get done with it in less than a month with $10 bags which now is almost 2months to almost 3 Since people have been suddenly "coming up" on connects, so that's what brought me to become a vendor on SR for more Customers. I'm not much of a scammer which I'm sure you heard this all before right before someone actually scammed you. but honestly i know this is a personal issue with me coming up with the $500 which i will soon. but as of now i will have to Wait for my MDMA from OldAmsterdam that has been almost 30days in transit.....Supposedly.. but never the less. i have one of the most and almost best ways to get lbs from California to there Destination without getting picked up by the DEA "Fuck Faces". 1 out of 15lbs gets picked up. which to me is not a problem.
PICK UP** Which Reminds me Christmas is Coming up!
God Bless all you people and your loved ones! Merry Christmas!
COMMUNIST REGIME.
So you move pounds of choof IRL but the $500 account fee is a problem? GTFO
Hey Dick Face, calm your tits down with all due respect. you don't know my financial problems cock sucker, i pay medical fuckin bills up the ass trying to get the best medical attention i can for my mother. and no this is not a "feel bad for me" fucking story but go fuck yourself.
You don't know shit. i stated that I'll have to make some more money and come back as a vendor.
I apologize to other forum members for my outburst but people like him get me mad with there Bs "GTFO" comments that don't help anyone except boost there self confidence thinking there tough shit.
COMMUNIST REGIME.
yeah im the toughest guy on the anonymous internet
Your one Pathetic little man.
COMMUNIST REGIME.
Coming from the bloke who signs all his posts with "COMMUNIST REGIME"
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Errrrrm fuck what the OP has to say when really you have to REMEMBER TO BUY LOTTO TICKETS FOR THE SUPER PRIZE DRAW!!!!! - http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/item/32de1fe1d2
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It's well worth the convenience.
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I think you need your eyes testing sunbeam. :)
Yeah I think I really should.
Because 56 > or equal to 60, huh?
:o
Dickface. I think you should learn to speak the truth and become able to give valid arguments.
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This is from the seller guide- is it out of date or is the 500 refundable?
Bond
You are required to pay a bond when opening a seller's account that will be refunded to you after you have demonstrated that you are an asset to the Silk Road vendor community. To be eligible for a refund, you must have completed at least 30 transactions totaling $1,500 or more and have been a vendor for at least 6 weeks. To request a refund, send a message to vendor support after you have met these conditions. Meeting the minimum requirements does not guarantee you will be granted a refund. All requests will be reviewed manually.
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I could see how the $500 could repel people away from becoming a vendor. It's difficult to determine the market conditions (ex:volume of buyers) of some products on SR, so it creates risk of the capital you invested. You could be a brilliant chemist but really have no IRL drug connections, invest say $2,000 to make a small 250g batch of amphetamine to test the waters, spend $300 on packaging material + the $500 SR fee, you're already $2,800 in the hole. That's a cost of $11.20/g, You'd probably have to sell it at $15/g or lower to get feedback and if after all that you're only getting 1-5 order per day, it's really not worth being a vendor.
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I could see how the $500 could repel people away from becoming a vendor.
Good, then they aren't the kind of vendor needed here.
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This is market regulation done wrong.
Good, then they aren't the kind of vendor needed here.
Please define what kind of vendor is needed here?
If a guy only has a few G's of anything the road is not for them.. This is a whole community of people, though I wont try to guess the amount of actual buyers here I would be comfortable in saying it is probably more than 1000 people.. This place is not for small fish
Say I have a few g of 99.9% LSD-25 and a big pile of paper... I'd say I'd be in the exact right place here...
Who are you to decide whom this place is for? Every category I buy drugs from here, I buy from the smaller, specialized vendors. Never from the "big fish", as it almost guarantees mediocre quality. The only argument for raising the price that still holds true is that vendor-account sales will drop, in numbers (only).
A measure has been put in place that tries to safe the many (sheep) from being scammed in favor of helping the few willing to work their way up and those trying to trade rare goods. This won't work, it's like making the fence wider instead of higher to keep unwanted folk out.
It's interesting how much of a closed dictatorship SR is. The guys we all trust with our data and it's security. Where are the Americans when you need them?
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Here is another way of thinking about it:
SR is making you take a bet when you sign up to be a vendor. The bet is $500USD that you aren't a scammer. You get a free vendor account if you prove to be a legit vendor. SR gets your $500 if you are a scammer.
Sounds like a great deal for legit vendors.
It's interesting how much of a closed dictatorship SR is. The guys we all trust with our data and it's security. Where are the Americans when you need them?
Certainly not a dictatorship (and not fascist either - as a previous poster called it). We choose to do business here.
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This is market regulation done wrong.
Good, then they aren't the kind of vendor needed here.
Please define what kind of vendor is needed here?
If a guy only has a few G's of anything the road is not for them.. This is a whole community of people, though I wont try to guess the amount of actual buyers here I would be comfortable in saying it is probably more than 1000 people.. This place is not for small fish
Say I have a few g of 99.9% LSD-25 and a big pile of paper... I'd say I'd be in the exact right place here...
Who are you to decide whom this place is for? Every category I buy drugs from here, I buy from the smaller, specialized vendors. Never from the "big fish", as it almost guarantees mediocre quality. The only argument for raising the price that still holds true is that vendor-account sales will drop, in numbers (only).
A measure has been put in place that tries to safe the many (sheep) from being scammed in favor of helping the few willing to work their way up and those trying to trade rare goods. This won't work, it's like making the fence wider instead of higher to keep unwanted folk out.
It's interesting how much of a closed dictatorship SR is. The guys we all trust with our data and it's security. Where are the Americans when you need them?
if you have a few Gs of LSD-25, you are by no way at all a small fish, as you have millions of hits worth of LSD. now, if you actually have that much needlepoint, wtf are you doing and why aren't you selling yet!!!!
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Cause you popped out of your mums twat with a pound of meph in one hand Lim?
Everyone has to start somewhere... whether it was your buddy fronting you a zip of bud to try to make some coin or you cashing out your first paycheck to buy an eightball.
And if you were spoon fed someone elses business (like apparently Lim was, cause he's gangster even when he shits in the morning) then go fuck yourself, you're no better than a paris hilton or a royal family.
Correct me if I'm wrong but the whole idea of this place was to support the individuals in the small niche, DPR references his "local weed dealer" as his inspiration for this site so how can you claim that it's all about selling insane amounts of drugs and profiting from "cash-cows."
Haha I have never, and will probably never again, call someone out but serious Lim how fucking sad are you. You sell boat loads of GARBAGE synthetic drugs and call people panzers for trying to make a little money selling honest wares. If you are the future of this website then I will gladly delete this motherfucker right now and never look back. I've never heard you say one positive thing you just sit around bragging about your drug cock, which, is a shriveled little meph cock anyway. If you think you're so fucking hard get some coke or SOMETHING even, mdma for christ sakes instead of peddling all this legal high garbage that was just made to mimic the REAL drugs anyway. You're a european mtljohn. Oh wait at least he sold real drugs
Edit: Sorry for the negativity to all the people that don't deserve it.
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I can't believe that there's six pages of whining about a measly $500. This is a private community, so if you don't own it, you don't have the right to dictate how it's ran. The man behind the curtain has to answer to everyone who comes here, if he wants us to continue to come here. Therefore, he must address scamming however he can. So, I believe that it is in everyone's best interest that a vendor account costs more than most schmucks makes in a week (including me). So, even though this also fucks me, who had the original fee, and my cop money all put away. Now I'm flipping some of the money originally intended to get me started on here so that I can make up the difference.
Imagine that, taking some of the responsibility on yourself for not having a few bucks in the bank. And, having the presence of mind to be able to look at what DPR did, leave my personal feelings out of it, and see that it makes the community safer for us in the future. He didn't do this to fuck you , or me. He did it as an offensive action against scammers. Faggoty bitches whining like your mom took your sucker.
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Cause you popped out of your mums twat with a pound of meph in one hand Lim?
Everyone has to start somewhere... whether it was your buddy fronting you a zip of bud to try to make some coin or you cashing out your first paycheck to buy an eightball.
And if you were spoon fed someone elses business (like apparently Lim was, cause he's gangster even when he shits in the morning) then go fuck yourself, you're no better than a paris hilton or a royal family.
Correct me if I'm wrong but the whole idea of this place was to support the individuals in the small niche, DPR references his "local weed dealer" as his inspiration for this site so how can you claim that it's all about selling insane amounts of drugs and profiting from "cash-cows."
Haha I have never, and will probably never again, call someone out but serious Lim how fucking sad are you. You sell boat loads of GARBAGE synthetic drugs and call people panzers for trying to make a little money selling honest wares. If you are the future of this website then I will gladly delete this motherfucker right now and never look back. I've never heard you say one positive thing you just sit around bragging about your drug cock, which, is a shriveled little meph cock anyway. If you think you're so fucking hard get some coke or SOMETHING even, mdma for christ sakes instead of peddling all this legal high garbage that was just made to mimic the REAL drugs anyway. You're a european mtljohn. Oh wait at least he sold real drugs
Edit: Sorry for the negativity to all the people that don't deserve it.
Lol kid my shit ain't garbage, far from it, also the margins are much better than blow and mandy so do the math. ;)
What do you do with your life boy? You sit at a desk wishing your life away? I got everything I wish for, I can do anything I like. I'm sure as shit you don't. :)
Kiss, kiss kid. Kiss, kiss.
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And answer this, if you can't keep up with supply what is the point of beginning at all? If you shit a brick over half a G then Christ only knows what the stock size is.
Ya need to get real. Whether you want to admit it or not you have to commercialized to keep up on SR so if you can't why throw ya cash down the shitter. Pointless.
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Here is another way of thinking about it:
SR is making you take a bet when you sign up to be a vendor. The bet is $500USD that you aren't a scammer. You get a free vendor account if you prove to be a legit vendor. SR gets your $500 if you are a scammer.
Sounds like a great deal for legit vendors.
Interesting view, it *sounds* good indeed, until you start thinking it through fully.
This measure is supposed to be stopping scammers, but it's very selective at doing so. It might only work for the scammers who never plan on selling anything, in a short period of time. Scammers like Noriega come to mind or at least this type of scam (iirc), for those who don't know: huge marketing - let everyone FE - run off. It would not stop the scammers that just go rogue at one point, like most recently Tony76 or MrFireUk. They would win your bet with flying colors.
So it only affects the smaller scammers and vendors anyway. Let's go through this as well. Say a scammer has $600 to get started. He buys his acc, uses buyer accounts for fake transactions, manages to fill all criteria easily. Now he can scam the heck away and on top of that even scams SR for the $500 refund.
A legit vendor with $600 needs to buy product as well, so for those guys it's now pretty much impossible to get started. This new measure takes away the starting ground from smaller vendors, while at the same time still granting it to scammers.
If you have $600, it's now easier to scam people than to start legit vending. Think about that for a minute please and let it sink in.
I still haven't seen one explanation (besides the plump attempt of stopping growth) that cannot easily be out-argued and turned against itself. I'm all for stopping scammers, but please put more thought in the measures that are put in place. Tony76 wouldn't only have scammed hundreds of buyers, but SR as well. How's that good news for anyone?
It's interesting how much of a closed dictatorship SR is. The guys we all trust with our data and it's security. Where are the Americans when you need them?
Certainly not a dictatorship (and not fascist either - as a previous poster called it). We choose to do business here.
Dictatorship in a sense that a tiny, unelected group of people makes all the decisions without taking the user's opinion into account. Would have called it a Monarchy, but the worshiping of DPR looks more like that of Kim Jong Ill than of Queen Elisabeth II. Also, most monarchs make an effort to act in the interest of their people.
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Here is some productive thoughts from the top of my head:
• access should be granted to people based on "skill" (growers, chemists, ...) and/or people in a given circle.
• access should *never* be granted based on luck or money alone, as you can win or buy your way in, LE and scammers have an easy life.
Many illegal type of communities have dealt with this problem in the past, e.g. the warez scene - different approaches were taken in the early 00's and the ftp-topsites to the newer torrent-sites. Why not learn from their mistakes?
So an (additional) attempt could be:
• make it cheaper for buyers (long-time, good stats) who want to turn vendor. Similar to a scholarship.
• and/or make vendor accs available per invite - this would cut down on throwaway accounts instantly, as it can be traced in an invite-tree.
edit: I build/design "living systems" for a living, i.e. any thing that is used by various people in different ways (think traffic planer, architect, software developer, shop/marketplace designer). You have to put yourself in every possible situation/person and evaluate different views constantly to be good at this. SR is just another example of such a system. Imho this attempt of stopping scammers is plump at best and dishonest at worst.
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Here is some productive thoughts from the top of my head:
• access should be granted to people based on "skill" (growers, chemists, ...) and/or people in a given circle.
• access should *never* be granted based on luck or money alone, as you can win or buy your way in, LE and scammers have an easy life.
Many illegal type of communities have dealt with this problem in the past, e.g. the warez scene - different approaches were taken in the early 00's and the ftp-topsites to the newer torrent-sites. Why not learn from their mistakes?
So an (additional) attempt could be:
• make it cheaper for buyers (long-time, good stats) who want to turn vendor. Similar to a scholarship.
• and/or make vendor accs available per invite - this would cut down on throwaway accounts instantly, as it can be traced in an invite-tree.
edit: I build/design "living systems" for a living, i.e. any thing that is used by various people in different ways (think traffic planer, architect, software developer, shop/marketplace designer). You have to put yourself in every possible situation/person and evaluate different views constantly to be good at this. SR is just another example of such a system. Imho this attempt of stopping scammers is plump at best and dishonest at worst.
Why would you want to use a buyer account as a vendor account? Just paints a big target on you. Also personally I feel it should be high priced because to really benefit from SR you need to be able to put weight on the table, otherwise you just wont be able to keep up with the demand in particular, if your product is of a high quality. If anything, I think people that become vendors need to take a step back and really consider what they are getting into. More than one vendor has come to myself and other vendors simply asking how to cash out after they ran out of stock first time round let alone properly. Given the size and traffic that SR gets and the amount of product it turns over it's just unrealistic for a low baller because I would guess that realistically it would cost someone $2500 to comfortably set up on SR including stock and all the necessaries and that's not really low balling, that's a commitment. Sorry if that makes you feel all shivery and sad TK1991 but once SR's popularity and thus product demand increased did you really think it'd still be able to remain all cum-bi-yah? It's like when people moan about supermarket chains killing the local butchers shops. People want shit, whenever they want it and low-ballers just can't cater for that. Just the harsh world of economics and hence the need for corporations.
Also what made me laugh is that someone once said they balanced vending with a 9-5 job. If you have a popular product you can forget that shit straight away, I wouldn't even moan if the price for an account was a full grand given what you can make back here and the resources you can get at.
So in summary TK no, I wasn't born with a brick of Meph in my hand but I did come prepared and I wasn't spoon-fed fuck all, and my drugs are excellent. You may have a sample if you wish. :) Time to see the change before your eyes though.
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Why would you want to use a buyer account as a vendor account? Just paints a big target on you. Also personally I feel it should be high priced because to really benefit from SR you need to be able to put weight on the table, otherwise you just wont be able to keep up with the demand in particular, if your product is of a high quality. If anything, I think people that become vendors need to take a step back and really consider what they are getting into. More than one vendor has come to myself and other vendors simply asking how to cash out after they ran out of stock first time round let alone properly. Given the size and traffic that SR gets and the amount of product it turns over it's just unrealistic for a low baller because I would guess that realistically it would cost someone $2500 to comfortably set up on SR including stock and all the necessaries and that's not really low balling, that's a commitment. Sorry if that makes you feel all shivery and sad TK1991 but once SR's popularity and thus product demand increased did you really think it'd still be able to remain all cum-bi-yah? It's like when people moan about supermarket chains killing the local butchers shops. People want shit, whenever they want it and low-ballers just can't cater for that. Just the harsh world of economics and hence the need for corporations.
I didn't say use the buyer account, nor did I mean it. Give him credit to become a vendor (new account) is what I said. Some people don't want to really "benefit" in the way you do. Please stop assuming your way is the only/right way.
It's not unrealistic for a "low-baller", I buy all of my gear from such vendors. They buy a certain amount of stock, they know they can handle and sell it off. They are probably very happy with the extra bucks they make, while staying under everyone's radar. Why would you deny them their existence on SR?
The traffic and size of SR is completely irrelevant, or why are there domestic only vendors? And stealth listings? You don't have to fill all demand. If a vendor grows 100g of weed and sells it off, then he just doesn't have any more. Stops selling until new crop. You don't need to have unlimited supply to sell something. Often it's scarcity that makes a product attractive.
No disrespect to you, but you are the type of vendor I came to avoid. Either extremely overpriced or mediocre quality. Personally I have no use for you (I actually had to look you up, yep overpriced RCs it is). Do you actually have a point in there somewhere? Besides you are the best? Try to put yourself in someone else's shoes. A weed grower who has too much weed and wants to cover his costs. Why shouldn't he sell here? Why is he less important than you? The weed is harder to get than the RCs you sell. I'd kick any RC vendor out in a heartbeat for some skilled weed grower.
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So Lim you're saying that basically you're Wal-mart and all the other niche driven vendors are butchers, tailors, etc?
You're the greedy corporation and the other "type" of vendors are honest people specializing in what they do best, in order to provide the best quality possible?
That attitude is fucking the entire world and you want to embrace it? Priceless. I wish I could screen cap that. It's alright though only the lobotomized end up at walmart anyway so you can have all the retarded buyers on SR, keep them away from the quality vendors (I don't know when 91 became a good vendor rating...)
And as for your offer? Sorry, no, I don't do RC's. And if I was going to, I certainly wouldn't buy them from wal-mart ::)
Edit: One, I'm not a boy, and two, "the margins are much better than blow and mandy so do the math."
Glad to know all you care about is money, sounds like a fulfilling life. I legitimately pity you at this point
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You're the greedy corporation and the other "type" of vendors are honest people specializing in what they do best, in order to provide the best quality possible?
Nope you're a little off-base there love, I have the greed and the best quality product in my branch of the drug tree so I do both darlin. Thus vendors reselling my product. :)
No need to pity me either, you're the shmo probably working 9-5 or maybe even shift work if you're a real peon. I have a very happy life and can do whatever I like. Who wins? That'd be me.
And P.S of course it's all about the fucking money you silly girl. Nobody is a criminal for the sheer fact that it's fun. It's always about the money, take your silly ideals that you probably inherited just out of university and open your fucking eyes to the world and how it works. You are talking like drug dealing is some noble profession with some sort of Robin Hood mystique with it. It's dark and dirty business, so wake up and smell the shit. You just don't realise this because you're so far detached from it because you have your shit delivered to your door or maybe your cool little mate supplies you who lives round the corner who you can talk about how yano, we should all be one big peace and love and we're not hurting anyone blah blah fucking blah.
About as blinkered as it gets love.
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Fuck BS shit fuck whore slut
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I could see how the $500 could repel people away from becoming a vendor. It's difficult to determine the market conditions (ex:volume of buyers) of some products on SR, so it creates risk of the capital you invested. You could be a brilliant chemist but really have no IRL drug connections, invest say $2,000 to make a small 250g batch of amphetamine to test the waters, spend $300 on packaging material + the $500 SR fee, you're already $2,800 in the hole. That's a cost of $11.20/g, You'd probably have to sell it at $15/g or lower to get feedback and if after all that you're only getting 1-5 order per day, it's really not worth being a vendor.
You believe it costs $2,000 to make 250g of speed??? Or are you including lab equipment in that, in which case it gets a lot cheaper after the first batch. Shit, I can get 8-balls of meth on the street for $160 so there's sure as hell ways for connected dealers to turn a profit at the going price on SR. And a cook? Forget about it.
What was his plan anyway? Cook a single batch and get rich off it? If the only way someone can afford to sell drugs is with zero overhead and a freely provided secure anonymous communication line to thousands of potential buyers. . . if a 1-time $500 along with having to buy shipping envelopes is enough to discourage him ... I'd say the fee did the job well by scaring him off. He'd probably curl up in a ball and die in the real world where new businesses (legal ones) usually take 2 or 3 years to get out of the red and start turning a profit.
Why try to entice a guy like that to become a vendor when he's got no experience moving drugs and wouldn't be able to handle the pressure if he actually did start doing regular business? It's selling drugs, not running a lemonade stand.
And just think not only of the scammers, but all the LAW ENFORCEMENT that would set up shop as vendors and start shooting fish in a barrel.
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And P.S of course it's all about the fucking money you silly girl. Nobody is a criminal for the sheer fact that it's fun. It's always about the money, take your silly ideals that you probably inherited just out of university and open your fucking eyes to the world and how it works. You are talking like drug dealing is some noble profession with some sort of Robin Hood mystique with it. It's dark and dirty business, so wake up and smell the shit. You just don't realise this because you're so far detached from it because you have your shit delivered to your door or maybe your cool little mate supplies you who lives round the corner who you can talk about how yano, we should all be one big peace and love and we're not hurting anyone blah blah fucking blah.
Nobody's a criminal for the fun you say. So doing something you enjoy would be preferable? Wouldn't combining the two be optimal then?
For some people selling drug is not all about money. Actually for most people it isn't, only for a few % of dealers it is.
I got the best drugs delivered to my door fast, reliably (not that many orders - not that much to mess or mix up), from 1000s of km away. Thank god for *** who saved x-mas.
How are we as buyers far detached from it, we get our stuff delivered from big to medium to small vendors and I think it's more than fair to say: the smaller shops got the better service\products. The comparison with large chains buying up local stores is spot on. We need more smaller legit vendors, instead of big business "we only care about money and cut the gear with whatever we can get our hands on" type of vendors.
One can really read the coke between your lines, Limetless. All posts are about you, not the subject alone. Try some empathy. You are making money off of buyer's lazyness and stupidity (name any of your products, I'll find a clearnet source offering it way cheaper). Granted, that's an excellent business model as those properties won't ever die out on SR. That's good on you. Still, you are no better than any small vendor, nor are you "worth" more to the community.
If this means that there won't be any more new small time domestic vendors for weed anymore, SR has dramatically lost value for me and my fellow countrymen.
I too am waiting for some solid argument on why this is a good idea.
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Lot's of off topic posts.
Good thing those price raises.
When i look at Boss for example, I see that he has a very good percentage.
But looking closer, I see that his percentage is almost exclusively from Finalizing Early.
Those who F.E give 5/5 too, even (if) they have nothing received yet and may be scammed at last.
I would like to order, but I want to see some positive feedback on actual receivings.
The 96% positive feedback reactions that came from 268 transactions is not real in my book.
In my book the transaction can only be rewarded after receiving the goods.
Just 5/5 for F.E. should not be counted as a transaction.
I did drop this in the section where you can explain what you want to see to be changed.
268 transactions.
Let's say 10% actual delivered and 90% F.E. where (only) the delivery's are rewarded with less then 5/5.
In those 268 are quite big transaction like 10 gr cocaine.
So $300 for a license to sell is not much, compared to 250 that have F.E. and have nothing received yet.
I like to suggest to DPR to even raise the amount of money asked for the seller license, if more then 80% is F.E.
It would be tempting to scam those 250 people, (who have F.E. so have paid without receiving anything yet)
and to buy a new license again.
Compared to the 268 transactions the 300 dollar for the license is peanuts.
I will not buy from him until I see a lot more positive feedback from actual delivery's.
I'am not saying he is not to be trusted.
Just that his 95% positive feedback is from those who have F.E. , not from the delivery's that are received.
I want to be sure.
Don't like to gamble!
Sorry Boss, nothing personal.
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Lot's of off topic posts.
Good thing those price raises.
When i look at Boss for example, I see that he has a very good percentage.
But looking closer, I see that his percentage is almost exclusively from Finalizing Early.
Those who F.E give 5/5 too, even (if) they have nothing received yet and may be scammed at last.
I would like to order, but I want to see some positive feedback on actual receivings.
The 96% positive feedback reactions that came from 268 transactions is not real in my book.
In my book the transaction can only be rewarded after receiving the goods.
Just 5/5 for F.E. should not be counted as a transaction.
I did drop this in the section where you can explain what you want to see to be changed.
268 transactions.
Let's say 10% actual delivered and 90% F.E. where (only) the delivery's are rewarded with less then 5/5.
In those 268 are quite big transaction like 10 gr cocaine.
So $300 for a license to sell is not much, compared to 250 that have F.E. and have nothing received yet.
I like to suggest to DPR to even raise the amount of money asked for the seller license, if more then 80% is F.E.
It would be tempting to scam those 250 people, (who have F.E. so have paid without receiving anything yet)
and to buy a new license again.
Compared to the 268 transactions the 300 dollar for the license is peanuts.
I will not buy from him until I see a lot more positive feedback from actual delivery's.
I'am not saying he is not to be trusted.
Just that his 95% positive feedback is from those who have F.E. , not from the delivery's that are received.
I want to be sure.
Don't like to gamble!
Sorry Boss, nothing personal.
raise? more? 5 million , what about 5 million? i bet that not even 1 scammer would creat a seller account.. but not even 1 legit new seller will appear
to me, the price should be 250$, and DPR should review and change the feedback system..
I see so many LEGIT vendors that payid 500$, and they in 10 days selled like 5 samples, and nothing more.. i mean, 500$ of lost...
DPR should have raised the price before, and less, not from 150 to 500$, that's stupid..
btw, why all that talk Wasta? Escrow system, why not? Do not F.E, its simple.. the max that can happen to you is you stay without some money for 15 or 20 days...
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268 transactions.
Let's say 10% actual delivered and 90% F.E. where (only) the delivery's are rewarded with less then 5/5.
In those 268 are quite big transaction like 10 gr cocaine.
So $300 for a license to sell is not much, compared to 250 that have F.E. and have nothing received yet.
I like to suggest to DPR to even raise the amount of money asked for the seller license, if more then 80% is F.E.
It would be tempting to scam those 250 people, (who have F.E. so have paid without receiving anything yet) and to buy a new license again.
Compared to the 268 transactions the 300 dollar for the license is peanuts.
I take this as an example, no names attached. Let's make the 250 transactions worth $100 on average. Let our fictitious vendor now scam people and get banned. Leaves him with $25000, so where do you draw the line on account pricing? Make it $25001?
There obviously is a need for a more complex setup of fees, taking sales value, amounts and practices (FE) into account and charge based on that. Or make vendor accounts available via a trust-based system, as mentioned.
We won't see either, SR staff doesn't give a fuck (about this particular issue). See you all in SR 2.0 :-X
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Muslix, i think that we need a review on the feedback system, only that...
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Muslix, i think that we need a review on the feedback system, only that...
..would go a long way. Indeed. But it's not that simple (not the decent feedback system - that actually is). I've been on here for a while, seen all kinds of scams. It needs a bit more dedication than just throw in amazon's or imdb's rating algo.
The complete lack of interest in this (like so many other) issues by SR staff keeps amazing me. Since they are all full-time criminals, as Limetless pointed out, you'd think they be more visibly active. (yea, I know they could be working on SR3.0 already for all I know)
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From a buyers perspective, I don't mind that the price has gone up. It keeps scammers away.
The biggest problem as I see it, is that it might open up a market for selling old vendor accounts. A potential scammers heaven.
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When i look at Boss for example, I see that he has a very good percentage.
But looking closer, I see that his percentage is almost exclusively from Finalizing Early.
Those who F.E give 5/5 too, even (if) they have nothing received yet and may be scammed at last.
I would like to order, but I want to see some positive feedback on actual receivings.
The 96% positive feedback reactions that came from 268 transactions is not real in my book.
In my book the transaction can only be rewarded after receiving the goods.
Just 5/5 for F.E. should not be counted as a transaction.
People who FE can always change their rating later if they're never shipped. That's why it's a good idea to use vendors who've got 5/5's going back a few months, since if those people were getting scammed there'd be a lot of revised comments and ratings of 1/5.
No way is a brand new vendor going to be able to rack up 268 transactions, all FE'd. There's not that many morons here (are there?) Why do you think virwex only spams the forums with bitcoin threads instead of trying to appear somewhat legitimate by using a vendor account? Because it's free to spam the forums and you only need one complete moron of a buyer to be stupid enough to send money every once in blue moon to make it a worthwhile effort.
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When i look at Boss for example, I see that he has a very good percentage.
But looking closer, I see that his percentage is almost exclusively from Finalizing Early.
Those who F.E give 5/5 too, even (if) they have nothing received yet and may be scammed at last.
I would like to order, but I want to see some positive feedback on actual receivings.
The 96% positive feedback reactions that came from 268 transactions is not real in my book.
In my book the transaction can only be rewarded after receiving the goods.
Just 5/5 for F.E. should not be counted as a transaction.
People who FE can always change their rating later if they're never shipped. That's why it's a good idea to use vendors who've got 5/5's going back a few months, since if those people were getting scammed there'd be a lot of revised comments and ratings of 1/5.
No way is a brand new vendor going to be able to rack up 268 transactions, all FE'd. There's not that many morons here (are there?) Why do you think virwex only spams the forums with bitcoin threads instead of trying to appear somewhat legitimate by using a vendor account? Because it's free to spam the forums and you only need one complete moron of a buyer to be stupid enough to send money every once in blue moon to make it a worthwhile effort.
Actually, people are that stupid. It's how phd1 scammed several thousand dollars.
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Actually, people are that stupid. It's how phd1 scammed several thousand dollars.
Really? What was he selling (or not selling)? I tried a search for "PHD1" but the only thread it shows up on is this one.
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Actually, people are that stupid. It's how phd1 scammed several thousand dollars.
Really? What was he selling (or not selling)? I tried a search for "PHD1" but the only thread it shows up on is this one.
Tony76 disappeared too.
Can not find him on this forum, except one post.
Tony76 took 25000 BTC !
About $300.000 dollar now
See on google
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Its to keep out the scamers and the wanna beez Cough UP the funds if you want to roll with the bigg DOGS just sayn :P