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Discussion => Silk Road discussion => Topic started by: OzFreelancer on December 05, 2012, 09:48 am
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http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-12-05/dark-internet-linked-to-drug-seizure-spike/4410872
Aired tonight.
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Yes I saw that, was hoping my wife wouldn't see it ???, and what about the Australian SR vendor getting on TV, what a dick...
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lol
ryan west some faggot who just wanted 10 minutes of fame.
that video pretty much was promoting the website haha
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+1 for sharing, Ryan West (speaking from 2:40) what a first class moron, I'm shocked, with all the money he's made from sloppy dealing and not giving a shit, you'd think he can afford to get his teeth fixed, guy seriously needs a brace :o
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Yeah I saw that tonight.
All I can say is. We do not need this.
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plus the price of bit coins are going up a fair bit
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Ryan West, what a drop kick, I hope he reads this and realizes how much of a loser he is.
Unfortunate to see such a retard representing Silk Road.
Absolutely ridiculous media article anyway, I expected a lot better from a 'lesser bias' TV broadcaster such as the ABC.
Can't believe I was actually looking forward to watching it.
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Yeah I saw that tonight.
All I can say is. We do not need this.
It's ABC. It will hardly bring in the Project crowd. Which I was indirectly responsible for :(
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Yeah I saw that tonight.
All I can say is. We do not need this.
It's ABC. It will hardly bring in the Project crowd. Which I was indirectly responsible for :(
Agreed, however, media is media and although SR has been mentioned before, this is a prime time broadcast that is available online. So people will find such things if they want it.
I think its actually surprising how many people watch the ABC. Especially your sit at home stoners.
Indirectly responsible? How so?
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LOL this must be the website with the highest traffic ever with all the news report its getting all around the world, wonder till when this party will last...:)
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All it will do is result in a load more aussies downloading TOR and signing up on SR and buying heaps more drugs. All I saw tonight was an advert for SR and a need for some people to visit the dentist more often, if they are trying to discourage people they really have no idea what they are doing.
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Also the report says the law has made many arrests in connection with SR but cant give any figures as there is too many 'agencies' involved. Meaning they havn't made any arrests directly from SR. Even the bad teeth guy said he was busted on the streets because he didnt care about security and "wanted to get busted" . I hope he isn't the aussie ambassador for SR.
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Lame! just some wanker with no mates looking for 15mins, if he was anyone they'd have changed his name/voice like with that fukwit bill.
Dont think his teeth are rotten, look like they been knocked out...
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This so called "report", was as much of an embarrassment to real journalists everywhere as much as it was for any Australian related to or associated with that West clown or the customs guy without a fucking brain.
This was fucking pathetic and makes me so ashamed (as if everything else about this place didn't already) to be a fucking Australian and I no longer consider myself an "Australian" but instead an Earth Citizen!
Fuck you ABC you have fallen so far from your past reporting to this ridiculous ten minute advertisement of a goose with bad teeth, bad dress sense and an even worse haircut.
Do yourselves a fucking favour and resign, and employ some people who are actually competent in their jobs.
This was nothing more than fear mongering the middle aged to elderly citizens of Australia, who also happen to be the main voter demographic, into allowing these people who call themselves The State, to accept and allow laws to be passed through manipulation and fear so that these faceless bureaucratic idiots can come in and ruin our lives and families simply because they didn't agree with our way of life.
Can somebody please tell me what the fuck we fought Nazi Germany for (and don't use that Zionist propaganda bullshit, I mean a real reason) and what the Cold War was about if we were only going to eventually act worse than both of these two nation states put together toward our own kinsmen? Forgive me, I'm just a little confused.
Absolutely pathetic and whoever approved this should reconsider a career in working with retards since they themselves aren't too far off it, and they can hang out with this West character as much as they like and swap stories about who's done the most stupidest thing in their lives to date.
Can someone please knock this idiots crooked teeth out of his cunt head next time they see him, we would all very much appreciate this if you could, and take a photo and upload it while you're at it.
Fucking n00bism!!!
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Does the video say anything beyond what is in the article? You need Flash to play it, so I'm wondering if it's worth it.
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Jezuz... totally... and fucking funny
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That, is what I call, a LOL.
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Ah great just what we need, more dumb aussies and their stupidity.
I lived in Sydney for 3 years from 2005 to 2008 and australia is truly a backward country. I seriously don't know how the people put up with such an incompetent society, they are lazy dumb and boozy as hell. The woman are hot BUT half of them have balls as in they need to compete with the males OR they are crazy pyscho..i saw many time woman scattered on the side of the road spewing up or woman punching on..was lol though!
And the media..sure it's not as bad as the UK but heck who runs the show in Aust? The govt or the media? Always making you feel worried about this and that.
In the end i had to leave cuase of work..but geez never again. Lovely geography (sydney) but gee stupid people.
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Really? I just read the transcript and seems pretty straightforward to me. Didn't appear to say anything incorrect or sensationalize anything. Even the dealer admitted it was his own fault for being busted. Didn't seem to have an agenda to me, just reporting on the situation. What's everyone's gripe with it? Just that other people know? Or not pro-drugs enough for you?
Your DrugBuddy.
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Jesus guys, what were you expecting? A whole 60 minutes program and a full investigation?
SR in oz has gone from radio to 7pm project to 7:30 report in a few months. Everyone that needs to know about it is already on here. The reporter was trying to show how retarded customs are - listen to that retard talk, they've never caught anyone and they never will! Be happy you had that busted tooth guy on the program because his honesty and idiocy are what we needed the Oz public to see.
Yes I was the vendor in the dark, and I will never release my vendor details for the safety of my customers, but think what that report would have been like without a dealer, customs, a PC tech dude, and a nerd who got busted.
Welcome the new users because every day we get closer to removing prohibition.
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Welcome the new users because every day we get closer to removing prohibition.
You keep telling yourself that sugar. ;)
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Article here http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-12-05/dark-internet-linked-to-drug-seizure-spike/4410872?bitcoin_lol
I love the quote that says you have no quality control when buying online.
Well then, I guess I better go back downtown and score from that super trustworthy street dealer then!
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Welcome the new users because every day we get closer to removing prohibition.
Wake up to yourself you goose. You got your 15mins...now stfu and mind your own affairs.
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Did the community a favour, no other vendor was going to show up and tell the truth.
Absolutely zero chance of revealing vendor name.
If no one who currently uses the site featured on that program it would have just been some customs retards lying about seizures, 1 x dumbass ugly buyer with convictions, and old misinformation.
They have 9 minutes, not 60 minutes, so they couldn't possibly reveal everything, even the journalism gold, from the million posts on here.
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Absolutely pathetic and whoever approved this should reconsider a career in working with retards since they themselves aren't too far off it, and they can hang out with this West character as much as they like and swap stories about who's done the most stupidest thing in their lives to date.
loooooool. +1
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Yeah, a shitty bit of journalism, but at least it made me aware of this awesome place, which I immediately signed up to.
Hey "12345678901", nicely narrow minded off topic post mate. I escaped from the UK to OZ in 1972 with my parents. Best fucking decision they made for the family. I'm so glad I wasn't brought up in that smelly, overcrowded country of my birth. Australia is a great place folks.
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Did the community a favour, no other vendor was going to show up and tell the truth.
Absolutely zero chance of revealing vendor name.
If no one who currently uses the site featured on that program it would have just been some customs retards lying about seizures, 1 x dumbass ugly buyer with convictions, and old misinformation.
They have 9 minutes, not 60 minutes, so they couldn't possibly reveal everything, even the journalism gold, from the million posts on here.
You're going to get ripped on hard here, but I agree. You said nothing that put a negative light on the site, and if anything, you helped "humanize" it.
This really comes down to whether or not you believe the Silk Road's exponential growth is sustainable. As a believer in Tor, bitcoin and the integrity of this site, I'm personally not afraid of more publicity and increased user numbers. I would have that a mod of all people would agree with me, but I guess not...
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im gonna watch this later,fricken crazy guy
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Since when did ABC start running adds ?
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and I will never release my vendor details for the safety of my customers
But you gave away some details about yourself. It's not that hard to narrow down which vendor you are.
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Putting your name to a piece of journalism when you're not even aware of how they're going to portray you\the Silk Road is pretty stupid in my opinion, glad you got your 10 minutes though mate congratulations.
Sorry, but NO credible news source will give you editorial power over how you are portrayed. If you want that, sell your story to That's Life magazine. Proper journalists report facts, not spin.
I will always honour an "off the record" request but will NOT have my story dictated to me
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Really? I just read the transcript and seems pretty straightforward to me. Didn't appear to say anything incorrect or sensationalize anything. Even the dealer admitted it was his own fault for being busted. Didn't seem to have an agenda to me, just reporting on the situation. What's everyone's gripe with it? Just that other people know? Or not pro-drugs enough for you?
I'm on your side DrugBuddy. I watched the story as a SR user and was pleasantly surprised to find how sensible and non-sensationalised the report was, especially given how badly the site has been portrayed by pretty much every other Australian media outlet. West was courageous to be interviewed on camera. I'd be interested to know how they found him. Anyone in the Aussie thread/s remember reports of a seizure notice in WA? The only one I remember is below, and that was the two teens whose parents dobbed them into the cops because they were getting weird overseas packages.
http://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/a/-/newshome/14980079/brothers-in-court-over-online-drugs/
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Since they can't shut the system down,
the only option they have is to overload it...
and what better way to do this then buy broadcasting an "interview" to a wide audience...
now all those viewers want to try it/see for themselves.
This has 2 results:
- many more problems for "regular" guests to log in
- demand & price of BTC's is going up FAST
If the price of BTC's goes up, sooner or later people will start to think that it costs too much for what it is (even if it's better than local market); if sellers can't log in, their merchandise want reach the customers and those will stop using SR and if buyers can't log in - well, then they can't buy...
This might be a part of the smartest move of the ennemies of SR untill now: "bring it out in the open"...
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Saw a short bit of this... Cop saying when you buy off here you don't know what your getting??
Lol what a fool.
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What makes me laugh is that this joker is talking like he's some age-old Don Giovanni talking like he's retired and talking about the many adventures he's been on in his life.
Go round the block a few more times numb-nuts.
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I wanted to say something but already is summed up pretty much exactly as I would have said it:
Ryan West, what a drop kick, I hope he reads this and realizes how much of a loser he is.
Unfortunate to see such a retard representing Silk Road.
The fact this thread was kre-8 only 2 days ago but already runs 3 pages long is proof people feel the same.... T-O-T-A-L D-U-M-B-A-S-S. I'm glad he got caught. Hope he knows how to keep his mouth shut, or he might have more serious problems than merely being in prison to worry about. (If he's stupid enough to deliberately be caught he's probably the type of person to give over his username and customer details to simply boast or get off. He SAID he wouldn't, but he sounds like a little bitch-dog who would crumble if a cop even looked at him the wrong way.)
I agree with so-and-so, SR doesn't need this kind of exposure after the The Project's coverage. Last thing we need is Julia Gillard, who is a dope, to legislate new measures for auto-scanning letters or what-not. If there's any further SR exposes in the media it may stir up a bees' nest the same way the Port Arthur massacre forced new legislation. We don't need it. If there is a vendor who wants to boast to people not in the know about being a big shot on SR, go away please. You'll ruin it for the rest of us.
I watched the story as a SR user and was pleasantly surprised to find how sensible and non-sensationalised the report was
Yes but it mentioned how easy it was to put it in the post about 3 times, like it was suggesting tightening this area. It's a technique used to persuade an audience without appearing to be sensationalist. (I'm not referring to my textbook to find out exact name; it's there somewhere.)
I disagree with so-and-so (different so-and-so above), SR is not 100% invulnerable and Tor isn't 100% impenetrable. Watch the video on YouTube, 28c3: How governments have tried to block Tor (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DX46Qv_b7F4). China is trying something creative, there have been other attempts as well. (Those pube-less losers Anonymous come to mind. If I ever meet these idiots, I will destroy their gameboys.) Tor's the best there is currently, but its under resourced. Terrain's always changing when it comes to its security.
RE cop: "you don't know what you're getting if you buy off there", um, aren't you guys the ones who raided someone's house at gunpoint this year because they were "illegally selling black-market milk" that had not been pasteurized? And you want to talk about ethical considerations regarding the quality of manufacture of drugs? Can you do me a favour and go home you poof?
Yes me may get some issues with Silk Road Login for a few days RaFaeL5, should bounce back after that though, so don't worry too much. Probably pick up a few more members to tell you the truth.
Yeah, a shitty bit of journalism, but at least it made me aware of this awesome place, which I immediately signed up to.
So it isn't all bad. Welcome to SR, PKD! Tell your parents and teachers to buy their drugs here!!
Anyway, like RaFaeL5 said, the real danger is high bitcoin conversion rate. That will impede SR trading more than anything else BY FAR.
All right I'm going. I was slightly ticked off and now I've had my 2 cents. Just a suggestion though.... if you get sick of vending, or being on SR, just quit. Don't go out of your way to get caught. That is just plain silly.
Piece everybody. Thanks to whats-her-name for posting the thread. Drive safely.
Quote of the day My plan was to put nuclear bombs under all the cities and give all the other cities the control switches.
Then everybody got real polite. Endless utopia!
I can't believe I didn't get invited to the UN, maybe I lost the invite letter when I thew away some junk mailers :)
TY for that sample pine.
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What makes me laugh is that this joker is talking like he's some age-old Don Giovanni talking like he's retired and talking about the many adventures he's been on in his life.
Go round the block a few more times numb-nuts.
True this.
I've just watched this report for the second time, and observed something, to prove how little abc news cares about anonymity, take a look at this screen shot from 3:25 http://xfq5l5p4g3eyrct7.onion/view.php?image=efaccbae3d31e72934cd0b0962aabb1e.jpg :o, I can't make out Ryan West's account name but with the right deciphering software it must be possible, looks like he's got 5 orders on the go, and 61.48 bitcoins. Hmmmmmm. Hey Ryan, if your out there, not only you've shown your face to a national news network, chatting shit about not giving a shit about your sloppy dealing, to the point of being arrested in your own home (I hope you've changed your sending address since getting arrested, however with your level of retardation, anything's possible) to top it off your SilkRoad account details have been revealed to the world. Best advice I can give is to change your account details now.
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Also, that guy needs to get his fucking pegs sorted. Fucking dumpsky.
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What makes me laugh is that this joker is talking like he's some age-old Don Giovanni talking like he's retired and talking about the many adventures he's been on in his life.
Go round the block a few more times numb-nuts.
Pot. Kettle. Black.
Who the fuck are you to call someone out Mr 'I make myself out to be a hard as nuts east end gangsta.'
You're like everyone else on here and chose your SR name but you went a step further and added that ridiculous fucking tagline: Gangsta Number 1.
I'd venture to suggest you're prob one of those no mates kids at school - had to give himself a nickname, not cause everyone gave him a shit one, but because no one gave a shit enough to give you one.
Stop trying so hard mate. Hold up, maybe we can use that to improve your tagline: Tryhard Gangsta Number 1.
P.S. rumour has it you wear your ballistic armour when you leave your HQ cause your sooo gangsta.
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What makes me laugh is that this joker is talking like he's some age-old Don Giovanni talking like he's retired and talking about the many adventures he's been on in his life.
Go round the block a few more times numb-nuts.
Pot. Kettle. Black.
Who the fuck are you to call someone out Mr 'I make myself out to be a hard as nuts east end gangsta.'
You're like everyone else on here and chose your SR name but you went a step further and added that ridiculous fucking tagline: Gangsta Number 1.
I'd venture to suggest you're prob one of those no mates kids at school - had to give himself a nickname, not cause everyone gave him a shit one, but because no one gave a shit enough to give you one.
Stop trying so hard mate. Hold up, maybe we can use that to improve your tagline: Tryhard Gangsta Number 1.
P.S. rumour has it you wear your ballistic armour when you leave your HQ cause your sooo gangsta.
**sits back with popcorn, this should be good**
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Since they can't shut the system down,
the only option they have is to overload it...
and what better way to do this then buy broadcasting an "interview" to a wide audience...
now all those viewers want to try it/see for themselves.
This has 2 results:
- many more problems for "regular" guests to log in
- demand & price of BTC's is going up FAST
If the price of BTC's goes up, sooner or later people will start to think that it costs too much for what it is (even if it's better than local market); if sellers can't log in, their merchandise want reach the customers and those will stop using SR and if buyers can't log in - well, then they can't buy...
This might be a part of the smartest move of the ennemies of SR untill now: "bring it out in the open"...
The value of the currency you use to buy drugs off SR will not affect the amount of real world dollars you use to buy them.
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What makes me laugh is that this joker is talking like he's some age-old Don Giovanni talking like he's retired and talking about the many adventures he's been on in his life.
Go round the block a few more times numb-nuts.
Pot. Kettle. Black.
Who the fuck are you to call someone out Mr 'I make myself out to be a hard as nuts east end gangsta.'
You're like everyone else on here and chose your SR name but you went a step further and added that ridiculous fucking tagline: Gangsta Number 1.
I'd venture to suggest you're prob one of those no mates kids at school - had to give himself a nickname, not cause everyone gave him a shit one, but because no one gave a shit enough to give you one.
Stop trying so hard mate. Hold up, maybe we can use that to improve your tagline: Tryhard Gangsta Number 1.
P.S. rumour has it you wear your ballistic armour when you leave your HQ cause your sooo gangsta.
Lim is alright, just terrible at replying to messages is all ::)
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What makes me laugh is that this joker is talking like he's some age-old Don Giovanni talking like he's retired and talking about the many adventures he's been on in his life.
Go round the block a few more times numb-nuts.
Pot. Kettle. Black.
Who the fuck are you to call someone out Mr 'I make myself out to be a hard as nuts east end gangsta.'
You're like everyone else on here and chose your SR name but you went a step further and added that ridiculous fucking tagline: Gangsta Number 1.
I'd venture to suggest you're prob one of those no mates kids at school - had to give himself a nickname, not cause everyone gave him a shit one, but because no one gave a shit enough to give you one.
Stop trying so hard mate. Hold up, maybe we can use that to improve your tagline: Tryhard Gangsta Number 1.
P.S. rumour has it you wear your ballistic armour when you leave your HQ cause your sooo gangsta.
Not sure if any of this flame-war stuff was necessary. Far as I'm concerned Limetless can say what he wants on his profile quote section. (It's a great way to get -Karma btw.)
Tell me the picture of Mephedrone HCL Ultra Crystal on Limetless's listing (http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/user/fa89fcfcd2/0/35) doesn't look like a shot of the night sky, pmsl. I thought the white stuff was clouds, and the thing on top the moon. It looked like he was going all Buddhist on me, lol.
Piece out. Drive safely, and don't forget to have something to eat.
Quote of the day My plan was to put nuclear bombs under all the cities and give all the other cities the control switches.
Then everybody got real polite. Endless utopia!
I can't believe I didn't get invited to the UN, maybe I lost the invite letter when I thew away some junk mailers :)
TY for that sample pine.
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What makes me laugh is that this joker is talking like he's some age-old Don Giovanni talking like he's retired and talking about the many adventures he's been on in his life.
Go round the block a few more times numb-nuts.
Pot. Kettle. Black.
Who the fuck are you to call someone out Mr 'I make myself out to be a hard as nuts east end gangsta.'
You're like everyone else on here and chose your SR name but you went a step further and added that ridiculous fucking tagline: Gangsta Number 1.
I'd venture to suggest you're prob one of those no mates kids at school - had to give himself a nickname, not cause everyone gave him a shit one, but because no one gave a shit enough to give you one.
Stop trying so hard mate. Hold up, maybe we can use that to improve your tagline: Tryhard Gangsta Number 1.
P.S. rumour has it you wear your ballistic armour when you leave your HQ cause your sooo gangsta.
Really? I mean com'n. There is no need for this, it benefits no one.
Limitless was calling out a douche on TV. Like we all were. Because he is a douche, now unless you are this douche or know this douche there is no reason to be calling Lim out like that.
Pointless.
Spam.
And if you are this douche, well, no one cares what you think because you already spoke your douchey mind on prime time TV.
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What makes me laugh is that this joker is talking like he's some age-old Don Giovanni talking like he's retired and talking about the many adventures he's been on in his life.
Go round the block a few more times numb-nuts.
Pot. Kettle. Black.
Who the fuck are you to call someone out Mr 'I make myself out to be a hard as nuts east end gangsta.'
You're like everyone else on here and chose your SR name but you went a step further and added that ridiculous fucking tagline: Gangsta Number 1.
I'd venture to suggest you're prob one of those no mates kids at school - had to give himself a nickname, not cause everyone gave him a shit one, but because no one gave a shit enough to give you one.
Stop trying so hard mate. Hold up, maybe we can use that to improve your tagline: Tryhard Gangsta Number 1.
P.S. rumour has it you wear your ballistic armour when you leave your HQ cause your sooo gangsta.
Limet was only telling it as it is. You know what pot kettle black is defined as, it's an idiom used to claim that a person is guilty of the very thing of which they accuse another, care to share your frustrations mrdobalina? I don't understand your logic is in defending Ryan West, he had no care for his annonymity or security what so ever, so little in fact, he's had his SilkRoad account details exposed to the entire world, what's your point exactly? Ryan West is a dumpsky dumbass douchebag.
Really? I mean com'n. There is no need for this, it benefits no one.
Limitless was calling out a douche on TV. Like we all were. Because he is a douche, now unless you are this douche or know this douche there is no reason to be calling Lim out like that.
Pointless.
Spam.
And if you are this douche, well, no one cares what you think because you already spoke your douchey mind on prime time TV.
And this.
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"Over 80% of seizures are based on prior intelligence"
So if you dont get told on or do something to get yourself watched theres a very small chance your shipment will be detected. They just basically admitted they are losing the fight.
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Ryan West "I was pleased to get caught it it was too easy to do I was stuck in dealing and hard to get out of " - Crap your choice mate , so did he get a criminal conviction -
LE says that there is no quality control , well there is better quality control buying from here than the street
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What makes me laugh is that this joker is talking like he's some age-old Don Giovanni talking like he's retired and talking about the many adventures he's been on in his life.
Go round the block a few more times numb-nuts.
Pot. Kettle. Black.
Who the fuck are you to call someone out Mr 'I make myself out to be a hard as nuts east end gangsta.'
You're like everyone else on here and chose your SR name but you went a step further and added that ridiculous fucking tagline: Gangsta Number 1.
I'd venture to suggest you're prob one of those no mates kids at school - had to give himself a nickname, not cause everyone gave him a shit one, but because no one gave a shit enough to give you one.
Stop trying so hard mate. Hold up, maybe we can use that to improve your tagline: Tryhard Gangsta Number 1.
P.S. rumour has it you wear your ballistic armour when you leave your HQ cause your sooo gangsta.
Ooooosh someone likes to try and talk cheap don't they Ryan West. :)
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LE says that there is no quality control , well there is better quality control buying from here than the street
That's what gets me. LE repeatedly make this claim, but there is no rating and review system for street dealers other than word of mouth, and in general I've found the stuff on SR to be higher quality than what I can get get locally (although more expensive), and not cut with bullshit.
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The first thing that I noticed about this report, was how they seemed to go out of their way to not advertise the other things available on Silk Road.
All of the story camera edits that showed the Silk Road website were always cut off at drugs. There was no mention of any other things on here (such as forgeries etc)
There seemed to be a real intent to limit the discussion of Silk Road to drugs only, and while the report seemingly came across as fair reporting, the whole thing had Customs and law enforcement PR about it all. Especially considering not so long ago customs were releasing press releases to scare users.
The seemingly unwillingness to discuss the full use of Silk Road for purposes other than drugs stood out to me, but then again, maybe that's all their focus wanted to be on given the vast majority of products on here are drugs. All the same, I would've figured they would have mentioned how easy it is to access a lot of other illegal stuff on Silk Road as well.
The whole thing screamed Law Enforcement PR to me.
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The whole thing screamed Law Enforcement PR to me.
Law enforcement PR from the media? That sounds new to me.
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I had a big reply written up last night and then my connection cut off *RAGE*
So a truncated version;
It definitely reeks of PR from customs. They often claim to have made a number of arrests, but in reality these have been very few.
I'm not sure what was going through Ryan Wests head to be so open in that interview unless all charges that could have been laid against him have been... And for those of us that only ever be < 10 grams, we can take some heart that if he isn't going to jail then we should be fine. Given the amounts of money he was talking about and being charged with intent to supply you can be pretty sure he was caught with a fair bit.
I can understand why Bill would come on to try and give another point of view, but if I was in his shoes there is a serious potential bullet he was taking there. I always wonder just how secure someone's information is when they agree to those sort of interviews.
Pretty much every computer expert has said the technology behind Tor, PGP and bitcoin is basically unbreakable by current technology. The most likely point of failure is through the post, or a person incriminating themselves by giving up too much information on the forums that can be narrowed down slowly but surely.
Play safe, follow the wiki and the guidelines and you should be fine.
And in the unlikely event you find yourself under police investigation, the golden rule - DON'T SAY A FUCKING WORD. Don't do the cops job for them.
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Yeh. Seizures would obviously be up, prosecutions? If they had successfully prosectued ANY vendors, itd be front page news imho, used as intense propaganda to scare SR dealers off of the road. If they had prosecuted ANY real substantial amount of USERS, they wouldve flaunted it in this show. Theyve done neither, which makes me think this is a big propaganda piece. Think of the timing of it all....right before the xmas rush (we all know this is when people kain the orders). And to the bloke that got caught.....lets just list out the information we know from this piece:
He spent 20, 000 US$ on MDMA in 6 months......Fuck me sideways, thats about 800 - 1000$ worth of bitcoins a week. That alone (along with a bloke with that kinda face and mouth) would raise suspicion to a bank on money laundering, which would garner an investigation into the guys accounts alone. Those are huge sums of money, coming form nowhere ( a simple warrant to look into the guys bank account and earnings (which would be 0) would warrant an investigation).
This amount of MDMA would conservatively equate to around 13 grams PER WEEK, not only being ordered in, but being sold out the idiots front door. Lets say he was generous and sold 120mg hits. Were talking around 100 "hits" of MDMA per week. The amount of traffick going in and out of this guys house would have been a fucking joke.....
Look at the big picture of this guy getting busted:
Massive orders per week.
Massive bitcoin purchases per week.
No job, yet close to a grand per week to buy bitcoins.
Huge traffic in and out his house.
This clown was ASKING for it. And theyre parading HIM around as a "User of Silk Road" that got busted???
PLEASE. Give me a break. And on that note. If this guy is admitting all this, it means that the cops had proof of it all (the amounts of money, the amounts being sold etc etc), so if this guy, importing lets say, conservatively 10 grams a week, and selling it, gets put under "strict surveilence" and not sent to jail/made front page news about how police CAN catch people on SR. I think people ordering in the odd gran or two of whatever their poison, is gonna be fine even if busted.
END OF RANT.
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Yeh. Seizures would obviously be up, prosecutions? If they had successfully prosectued ANY vendors, itd be front page news imho, used as intense propaganda to scare SR dealers off of the road. If they had prosecuted ANY real substantial amount of USERS, they wouldve flaunted it in this show. Theyve done neither, which makes me think this is a big propaganda piece. Think of the timing of it all....right before the xmas rush (we all know this is when people kain the orders). And to the bloke that got caught.....lets just list out the information we know from this piece:
He spent 20, 000 US$ on MDMA in 6 months......Fuck me sideways, thats about 800 - 1000$ worth of bitcoins a week. That alone (along with a bloke with that kinda face and mouth) would raise suspicion to a bank on money laundering, which would garner an investigation into the guys accounts alone. Those are huge sums of money, coming form nowhere ( a simple warrant to look into the guys bank account and earnings (which would be 0) would warrant an investigation).
This amount of MDMA would conservatively equate to around 13 grams PER WEEK, not only being ordered in, but being sold out the idiots front door. Lets say he was generous and sold 120mg hits. Were talking around 100 "hits" of MDMA per week. The amount of traffick going in and out of this guys house would have been a fucking joke.....
Look at the big picture of this guy getting busted:
Massive orders per week.
Massive bitcoin purchases per week.
No job, yet close to a grand per week to buy bitcoins.
Huge traffic in and out his house.
This clown was ASKING for it. And theyre parading HIM around as a "User of Silk Road" that got busted???
PLEASE. Give me a break. And on that note. If this guy is admitting all this, it means that the cops had proof of it all (the amounts of money, the amounts being sold etc etc), so if this guy, importing lets say, conservatively 10 grams a week, and selling it, gets put under "strict surveilence" and not sent to jail/made front page news about how police CAN catch people on SR. I think people ordering in the odd gran or two of whatever their poison, is gonna be fine even if busted.
END OF RANT.
well said indeed, a lot of that stuff comes down to psychology too because at the end of the day we are doing something that's not legal according to the law and we'll have that 'guilty' mentality so a scare story here and there will frighten most into thinking twice before making another purchase off the road
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well said indeed, a lot of that stuff comes down to psychology too because at the end of the day we are doing something that's not legal according to the law and we'll have that 'guilty' mentality so a scare story here and there will frighten most into thinking twice before making another purchase off the road
I definitely don't feel any guilt about using this site. I think the laws on drugs and drug use are ridiculously flawed.
It's not legal according to the law... Who comes up with the law? Other human beings.
In my opinion, human beings are flawed by nature, so to come up with laws to govern other flawed creatures is just silly. It makes no sense. What gives one human the right to govern another?
Therefore, if I do not agree with a law laid down by the state I currently live in, I will simply not abide by it. And I don't do this loudly, I just live my life by my own morals and decisions. I understand there can be repercussions with the state if I am caught disobeying laws, but like I said, I go about it quietly and live my own life mostly under the radar. And it gives me satisfaction.
I think the feeling of guilt is such a mind controlling aspect anyway. We feel guilt only if we are not free.
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well said indeed, a lot of that stuff comes down to psychology too because at the end of the day we are doing something that's not legal according to the law and we'll have that 'guilty' mentality so a scare story here and there will frighten most into thinking twice before making another purchase off the road
I definitely don't feel any guilt about using this site. I think the laws on drugs and drug use are ridiculously flawed.
It's not legal according to the law... Who comes up with the law? Other human beings.
In my opinion, human beings are flawed by nature, so to come up with laws to govern other flawed creatures is just silly. It makes no sense. What gives one human the right to govern another?
Therefore, if I do not agree with a law laid down by the state I currently live in, I will simply not abide by it. And I don't do this loudly, I just live my life by my own morals and decisions. I understand there can be repercussions with the state if I am caught disobeying laws, but like I said, I go about it quietly and live my own life mostly under the radar. And it gives me satisfaction.
I think the feeling of guilt is such a mind controlling aspect anyway. We feel guilt only if we are not free.
maybe guilt was a bad choice of word, i think it should be maybe just that feeling of will i be busted(not exactly paranoia either)? and i think if LE can make people think twice before a purchase, then they've achieved what they've set out to do, which is to deter people from the road whatever the means it maybe (as we have seen scare tactics and generally just really vague statements) but yeah i totally agree with what you said its my life and entirely my choice to consume whatever chemicals i see fit and don't need them telling me what's good and what's bad, what's legal and illegal
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On the subject of idiots misprepresenting SR:
http://foreverrising.wordpress.com/2011/06/15/what-is-bitcoin-and-what-is-bitcoin-mining/
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I thought it was explained just fine. If you actually read the article (which I’m kind of guessing a lot of you just skimmed over it) you would realize that mining bitcoins isn’t something you just “do”, it takes work and the fact that only 21 million can ever exist, EVER, is what gives the bitcoin its value. As of August 2012, each bitcoin was worth approximately 10 USD. To answer the first question, the value to someone else is that they themselves don’t have to mine the bitcoin. They can offer a service or good, which one would accept, and then get paid in bitcoins (which as we know, is approximately 10 USD). For the most part, it’s really useful to people who trade in “shady” or “sketchy” things, such as users on the Silk Road (i.e. drugs and illegal weapons). However, you CAN trade bitcoins for actual money, so, all your hard work pays off in the end. Since, solo mining is so difficult however, your best bet is to join a “mining pool” and work with others towards solving the algorithm, or “block”, which is worth 50 bitcoins. Once the collective has solved the block, the block is divided amongst them. So, to simplify things, the bitcoin has value because it’s actually worth money and because it isn’t just handed to you on a silver platter. To add icing on the cake, you can BUY material goods or services with them. Really, if that doesn’t answer your questions, you need to be doing something else, like reading a book, walking the dog, or something physical, because that’s the most simplified answer you will ever get and you’ll never understand bitcoins. Also, for those of you wondering, “how do I get use my bitcoins on the Silk Road?” you need a special program (not sure what it is) and then you have to go through some long and ridiculous process to even find it, then more work to actually get in. It’s part of an unregulated part of the internet known as the Deep Web and it isn’t fun for anyone but the people that hack into your computers and clean out your bank account. Its also full of viruses and other crazy shit you don’t want anything to do with. IT ISN’T WORTH IT. Buy your drugs on the street corner and buy your weapons the legal way. If you get caught with an unregistered firearm, you’d better be ready to be fucked by the long dick of the law, and sending drugs through the mail is NEVER a good idea.
Comment by church'schiken — September 27, 2012 @ 12:11 am
Somebody tell this fool we don't sell weapons any more on SR? Armoury closed a while back, and that twas a side thing anyway. Someone tell me why everyone out there who doesn't understand how Tor works thinks it's strictly for "shady people" hiring assassins or terrorist rendezvous? I'm sick of it. Piece out bastards ;)