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Title: What happend to amsterdamshop?
Post by: StrictlyForScience on May 29, 2012, 10:59 am
He hasn't been online in ages and removed all his listings and I placed an order with him about 5 days ago and haven't heard anything from him.  Does anyone know whats going on?  Should I just cancel my order?  Anyone got any vendor recommendations for good dutch?
Title: Re: What happend to amsterdamshop?
Post by: Deinemudda23 on May 29, 2012, 12:53 pm
I placed an order 12 or 13 days ago and nothing arrvied. I haven´t heard anything from him too and I saw that all his listings disaapeared because of 3 days of inactivity, I think. After placing the order he asked for FE, so I did because I only read positiv things about this vendor....
This was my 2nd order on SR.  :-\  ...not a good start...
Next time I will purchase only from domestic vendors...
Title: Re: What happend to amsterdamshop?
Post by: StrictlyForScience on May 29, 2012, 01:06 pm
He normally only asks you to FE when hes finished processing the order and its ready for shipping so its likely your order has been sent.  THe last package I got off him took like 12 days to arrive..I suspect it was being held up in customs but it came through okay.  Just seems odd hes disappeared without a trace and hasnt let any of his customers know whats going on.. think im going to cancel my order if he isnt online by tomorrow

I hope he will be back as hes got some good dutch.  Good luck with your parcel mate
Title: Re: What happend to amsterdamshop?
Post by: Josh1987 on May 29, 2012, 07:36 pm
CANCEL YOUR ORDER! @ StrictlyForScience

My order was ready to finalize on the 19th of may, he said that my order will be shipped on sunday the 20th if i finalize BEFORE 16 o'clock. I was wondering because i know that sunday is a day where all shops are closed in the netherlands. I finalized after 16 o'clock, so i thought he'll send the package on monday. But he never reads any of my messages, and nothing arrived here, so i think he's a scammer.

I got scammed ~6 months ago from the seller "Holland", and i remembered that situation, because it was the same. Then i've started comparing these two vendors, and some things are really suspicious!

- "Holland" described his offer like that -> 10g ≡≡ P O W E R P L A N T ≡≡
- "AmsterdamShop" describes his offer like this -> == 10g S U P E R S I L V E R H A Z E==
- The following 2 sentences are exactly the same like in the "Holland" account -> "We send all orders coming in, we rather have a happy and returning customer in stead of scamming some one for a few bucks." and "NOTE: because of scammers we were forced to change our payment policy."

Also the way he acts is the same. He just send a message when a customer has to finalize, but all the following messages never will be read.

I ordered 10g of weed just 3 times in the TorNetwork. The first time was with "MOM4EUROPE", and i got scammed. Second time was with "Holland", and i got scammed. The third time is with "AmsterdamShop", and i have the bad feeling that he'll also do this. -.-
Title: Re: What happend to amsterdamshop?
Post by: slowburner on May 29, 2012, 07:50 pm
i have had 3 really successful orders with amsterdamshop, and the bud is really high quality. Took usually about 10 days to UK. However he does seem to disapear from time to time, last time was due to trouble with the feds. I stopped purchasing from him because of FE, once i had built up a good feedback i made the decision not to FE for anyone.  Apart from anarcho47 as i will be ordering his lemon drop oz. I won't use anyone anymore that requires FE for everyone across the board, intl, domestic, new and experienced members. And neither should you.
But i can only speak from my experiences with Amsterdamshop and they were perfect.
Title: Re: What happend to amsterdamshop?
Post by: thinkforyourself on May 29, 2012, 07:57 pm
That's a shame if he went scammer, really liked the ukash to bitcoin exchange -_-
Title: Re: What happend to amsterdamshop?
Post by: Deinemudda23 on May 29, 2012, 08:19 pm
Do what Josh says and cancel your order.   :-\

Last days there were some holidays in NL, maybe he is on vacation....we can´t know when/if he comes back.

Eventually I learned not to FE!

It could be an coincidence that the listings are similar.

I can´t believe that a vendor with that great feedback scammed me for a few bucks....but Im waiting nearly 2 weeks and Im located very close to the NL border....this is strange!

Amsterdamshop wrote same things like "please finalize before 16 o´clock" because the shipping deadline is 17:00 CET too but next day was a normal weekday, no sun-/holiday.

I think there is no sense to stress the SR-Support, because Im a fool and did FE :D

Don´t panic!




Title: Re: What happend to amsterdamshop?
Post by: StrictlyForScience on May 29, 2012, 08:24 pm
If hes a scammer he's a damn patient one.  I bought off him about 2 weeks ago and it took a long time to get here but it did arrive 2.5 grams of super silver haze the order was.  Because it all went so well (minus the time it took)  I decided to order 5 grm more.  Haven't heard from him since.

Also just look at all that positive feedback he has.

My conclusion is that he probably isn't a scammer , however I think I'm going to cancel my order if he isn't on tomorrow because I don't know when he will next be on, if ever.  And id rather free up some funds to invest in some white widow or amnesia haze that I have my eye on from greengold667.  Does anyone have any experience with him?

Cheers.
Title: Re: What happend to amsterdamshop?
Post by: Deinemudda23 on May 29, 2012, 09:20 pm
The offers of greengold667 look very good....but read his feedback: someone got busted maybe because of the poor packaging... it seems that he have to improve this!
If you are domestic with him you can place an order, there will be no danger.
Report about the quality please :)
You said the last package from amsterdamshop took 12 days to arrive...where are you located?
gr.
Title: Re: What happend to amsterdamshop?
Post by: StrictlyForScience on May 29, 2012, 09:28 pm
Yeah I just read that review sounds bad that does I would not like the fuzz looking round my house at all... 

My order from AmsterdamShop was sent on the 12th and I am in the UK.  It took 12 days to arrive (this is unusual , hash normally arrives in 3 days).  After 7 days I contacted him and informed him it was taking a while.  He said wait till Wednesday (an extra 4 days) before we sort it out.  It did not arrive on Wednesday So I sent him a message which has not been read yet.  Thankfully my weed came on the Thursday and I promptly ordered more.  None of my messages to him recently have been read and he has been offline.  Maybe he got busted?

Does anyone have any recommendations for nice weed?  I live in UK but don't like any of the domestic prices on here.  So preferably from Holland, or maybe Canada or America if the price is right.
Title: Re: What happend to amsterdamshop?
Post by: StrictlyForScience on May 29, 2012, 09:31 pm
Regarding greengold667 just looked at his profile and it says "Packages will always be discreetly packaged with a neutral label and triple vacuumed in a iron bag for the smell. The maximum we ship in 1 envelop is 20g just for spreading the risk. The address is a sticker/label. "

I know this isn't everything but it sounds like a discreet enough package.  However there are a few reports of his gear getting intercepted.. hmm..

If you are close to the border of Holland (I'm guessing you're German) why don't you just go there for a daytrip and smuggle lots back with you?  The border control was none existent when I went there a year ago.
Title: Re: What happend to amsterdamshop?
Post by: Deinemudda23 on May 29, 2012, 10:28 pm
I hope he got not busted....in NL it is only legal to sell weed with a coffeeshop license. it is not allowed to set up big cannabis farms with more than a few plants or to extract concentrates of the plants. it seems for me that amsterdamshop runs a coffeeshop and likes to expand his business by vending on SR. but sending weed out to other countries from NL is definitely illegal also it is illegal to import cannabis products to NL. In fact the most great hash from morocco, afghanistan or india is smuggled to NL, this is very dangerous and will punished by the law and you will loose your license and go to jail.

3 days to the UK from NL sounds very good!

yes, Im german. the official border control doesn´t exist but the cops do regular check people who travel from NL to germany and I got busted sometimes, last time in decamber last year so I decided to travel there not very often.
Im happy that the german law is not so severely.

I heard of an vendor from NL who ships out from germany. he has s5-haze, that is Amnesia haze X super silver haze. some people say it is the strongest weed they ever smoked. this stuff is expensive but it should be worthwhile. parcels that were sent out from germany will not checked like parcels from NL. maybe that is a good option for you.
I will test it by myself in the next few days/weeks and I will leave feedback when it arrives.
the vendor is budsupplies.
Title: Re: What happend to amsterdamshop?
Post by: StrictlyForScience on May 29, 2012, 11:22 pm
Yes the cannabis laws in Holland are ridiculous (but a lot less ridiculous than in our countries), because they basically condone and tax the selling of it but they are not okay with how it is supplied to the coffee shops . 

I'm sure if Holland openly allowed people to post product to other countries they would be under serious diplomatic pressure from basically everyone.  So I can understand them arresting people attempting to post it out of the country.  Me personally I say let them post it, the dutch have always been a nation of traders, why stop now? lol.

For your future car trips have you considered going to Holland through a country that is less known for its cannabis than Holland, Belgium perhaps?  I'm not sure how it is in your country but over here our police have to get a certain amount of busts, so I'm sure if they have a quota to fill they would just sit outside the border waiting for easy arrests for victimless crimes, lol.  So I think going and coming from Belgium would throw them off if you didn't mention your little detour to Holland ;).

Ill check that seller out, let me know if it all go's well, and if the packaging is suitable for borders.

Good luck mate!
Title: Re: What happend to amsterdamshop?
Post by: atlas on May 29, 2012, 11:24 pm
I exchanged a couple ukash vouchers with him a week ago and the transactions were completed within 24 hours.
I sent him another voucher which has been cashed out, but he hasn't logged in in a week.

I hope nothing bad happened to him, and I need the btc to make a couple purchases
Title: Re: What happend to amsterdamshop?
Post by: Josh1987 on May 30, 2012, 12:36 am
yes, Im german. the official border control doesn´t exist but the cops do regular check people who travel from NL to germany and I got busted sometimes, last time in decamber last year so I decided to travel there not very often.
Im happy that the german law is not so severely.

I heard of an vendor from NL who ships out from germany. he has s5-haze, that is Amnesia haze X super silver haze. some people say it is the strongest weed they ever smoked. this stuff is expensive but it should be worthwhile. parcels that were sent out from germany will not checked like parcels from NL. maybe that is a good option for you.
I will test it by myself in the next few days/weeks and I will leave feedback when it arrives.
the vendor is budsupplies.
I'm also german and got busted a few times in the train that comes from venlo, so we have the same reason why we're here. I made also an order at budsupplies, and i think his weed will be great. It will arrive tomorrow or a day after.
The seller "Hanspoel" is also very good, shipping takes 1 day inside germany. :)

@ all the others:
It's no problem to setup a selleraccount, made the first bunch of feedback with other own accounts, and then the selective scamming can start. If too much people are pissed off and are not returning, grab all you can grab and run. But don't forget to SE the people into finalizing early, cry a little bit because of "buyers that are scammers". This is what "Holland" made, and this is what "AmsterdamShop" probably also just made. You just have to invest a little bit of money in the beginning, most of the money for the setup of the account itself, but feedback wouldn't cost much. As an example: His uKash-offer generates feedback, but he doesn't have to pay much fees for SR.
Another point that is important: His selleraccount is 7 months old, but he started "selling" just 2 months ago. Why should anyone register an account that has a "shop" in the name, without selling anything for the first 5 months? In my opinion, he just did it to let the account look older, because not everyone is looking for the age of the oldest feedback...
Plus, it's also suspicious that there are so much "customers" that are using the text "finalizing early for trusted seller, will update on arrival" without updating it!
For me it's clear, the combination of all that points would have made me be carefully, but his fucking low prices made me placing the stupid order. I'll never use a vendor again that forces his customers to finalize early. I've spend over 350 BTC on SR, never got a refund and i never auto-finalized, so every vendor should see that i'm just an interested customer who is happy if it's possible to order the weed via internet. There is no need for me to fool a vendor just to get a few grams of weed more, i have enough of money to get as much weed as i need...

I don't think he's on vacation, because an honorable seller would inform his customers. I also don't think that he got busted, because he cashed out the uKash voucher of one of his customers, but did not send the Bitcoins (the seller "sildenafil" is better for that)...
Title: Re: What happend to amsterdamshop?
Post by: k1k1 on May 30, 2012, 01:52 pm
I can't tell you what happened to Amsterdamshop.

But i can tell you my experience with him.
Over the time i did some transactions with him, all were successful and the product was high quality, also the ukash2btc/sr exchange went very very well with him/her, he/she is a real professional, friendly and fast vendor. his/her communication is the same way.
but it started about 2 months ago, the first package ever didn't show up at my place, i got in touch with Amsterdamshop and due being so long partners and everything went fine until now, he offered me a reship. i agreed and gave him another address than the first i was using, he said he reshipped (and i fully trust Amsterdamshop, since the good and long success story with him), but the package didn't show up. i said that we should forget about that package and said thanks for the offer, but he wanted to satisfied me and offered another reship, ofc i agreed and was impressed by the offer. since the day he wanted to ship the re-reship he is gone.
i really hope he'll be back as soon as possible, not because of my package but i like to communicate with him.
i also can't imagine that he is an scammer, he is really after satisfying his customers (see my example above).

@Josh1987:
Amsterdamshop is definitely selling longer than for 2 months, i remember my first transaction with him was about 6months ago (early december 2011). perhaps SR only stores an specified amount of feedbacks :)
Title: Re: What happend to amsterdamshop?
Post by: marga755 on May 31, 2012, 05:33 am
Hello,

I bought to Amsterdamshop some super silver haze, package was sent on may 14 and I received it on may 25. It's a long time because i am in europe, not far from holland !
But I can't complain because weed was really top quality and a little (0.1g) overweight !
Now I want to order more (first time I took 2.5g to see if the product was quality) but he is offline !
I hope he is OK and will come back soon.
For me, he is not a scammer and maybe he is offline because he got busted (I hope I am wrong :-s )
Title: Re: What happend to amsterdamshop?
Post by: cosmicdragonian on May 31, 2012, 03:16 pm
I am new to SR, Looks like i have been suckered also by amsterdamshop. He was the bestseller on the weed section so i thought it was my best option.
He sent me message explaining it was ready to send, for me to FE before 16.00 so it could be sent next day, 13 days later nothing, not even a reply to my messages any more.
Will this effect my ability feedback in future transactions now that its me thats been ripped off, if i give him a bad rating? Will future sellers be weary?
Havent had a good start so far  :(
Title: Re: What happend to amsterdamshop?
Post by: Solar on June 01, 2012, 02:53 am
The only Dutch vendors I trust are Djabbar and DutchShop. Lots of others got a bad rep.
Title: Re: What happend to amsterdamshop?
Post by: cosmicdragonian on June 01, 2012, 09:21 am
10 days Amsterdamshop has not signed in to SR, I think he has scammed a lot of people. And made a lot of money.
If there is any Karma in this world, I hope it will bite your`e bitch ass hard you thieving dirty scumbag.
Title: Re: What happend to amsterdamshop?
Post by: marga755 on June 01, 2012, 09:48 am
Does anyone here can recommend me a good weed seller (someone who sells great quality for fair prices and send to Europe) ?

Thanks in advance
Title: Re: What happend to amsterdamshop?
Post by: Josh1987 on June 01, 2012, 02:59 pm
I also didn't receive my order until now. -.-

Does anyone here can recommend me a good weed seller (someone who sells great quality for fair prices and send to Europe) ?

Thanks in advance
Budsupplies ist good, or Hanspoel.
Title: Re: What happend to amsterdamshop?
Post by: usernamealreadyinuse on June 01, 2012, 04:29 pm
Im awaiting an order from AmsterdamShop, have ordered before with them without any problems.  Whats causing my unease with this order is the length of time its taking to arrive, as previous the order would have been here and all already..........BUT recently there was a problem with another Dutch vendor - ExchangeService, people werent receiving their orders but then they turned up.  Maybe we need to stop getting para and give a little more time?
Title: Re: What happend to amsterdamshop?
Post by: atlas on June 01, 2012, 11:15 pm
He hasn't logged in in 10 days.
I'd chalk it up as a loss

I trusted him with an exchange operation because he had been on SR for 7 months and I thought he wouldn't easily risk losing his reputation.
Guess I was wrong.

I hope nothing really bad happened to him,
but if he scammed us, I hope one day he'll see his children get hurt. Bad
Karma's a bitch
Title: Re: What happend to amsterdamshop?
Post by: actionshooterfixed on June 05, 2012, 06:37 pm
13 days offline now and the number of feedbacks that have not been updated or indicate that the product never arrived are building up.
Even if AmsterdamShop did get busted, it would seem there was at least a period when orders were being taken but nothing being sent.

Regardless, I live in hope they return, it has been 16 days since I finalized early for my weed.
Title: Re: What happend to amsterdamshop?
Post by: Josh1987 on June 07, 2012, 06:38 pm
I don't think he got busted, he's just a fucking scammer. Like you said, there was at least a period when orders were being taken but nothing being sent...
Title: Re: What happend to amsterdamshop?
Post by: greenstones on June 11, 2012, 11:57 pm
He is no fucking scammer he had £40 ukash voucher code of mine when i used his ukash to BTC service i left it about 4 or 5 days just sitting there as i had used him so many times without any problems but in the end i canceled and went with somebody else and it all went fine so he did not rip me off that if he wanted to he could of i think something has happened as he had a very wide Clint base with a nice turn over and enough BTC to run a busy conversion service with good turn around times it seems only peeps who have not had orders are newbies who had to finalize early or all the rest are in escrow like mine was and raised an issue and had there coin back
Title: Re: What happend to amsterdamshop?
Post by: cosmicdragonian on June 14, 2012, 05:46 pm
amsterdamshop has been online for the last three days. Is he taking the piss or what, a lot of people was ripped off. He still refuses to answer messages.
Is there anything that can be done, for instance SR look into his dealings and suspend his account, freeze funds etc ? Surely he cant take the piss like this.