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Discussion => Silk Road discussion => Topic started by: killboy on February 17, 2012, 09:21 pm

Title: SR will never become mainstream as long as bitcoin is a p.i.t.a.
Post by: killboy on February 17, 2012, 09:21 pm
SO obviously i am a new member.  I went to get some Bitcoins, and what a p.i.t.a.

so if getting tor configured was enough hassle
1. created mt gox account WITHOUT tor protection (only way)
2. created bit-instant account
3. created a trust-cash account


Now I got to go to a bank and give them a trust-cash transaction id in hopes that....
Bit instant gets the funds and releases them to..........................................................
Mt gox so that i can hopefully make a successful send to my.......................................
SR ewallet so that i can................................................................................................
release funds early and hope i dont get scammed so that...........................................
hopefully my mail doesnt get confiscated in the mix.....................................................


I wish i could just set up a seller account and sell something to fund my wallet, would be much easier, but unfortunately you got to put like 150.00 in there to even do that.

I have been a member of forums for about 2 weeks now and a member of SR for about a month.  I am still not sure if I will ever go through with a transaction because of the difficulty of things and probabilities that steps 1-6 could fail.


Anybody else in my shoes right now? just curios. thx
Title: Re: SR will never become mainstream as long as bitcoin is a p.i.t.a.
Post by: divinechemicals on February 17, 2012, 09:28 pm
First of all, I think that the fact that SR will never go mainstream is a good thing. If all of a sudden this site traffic equal to something like Craigslist, the police would be compelled to do something. The fact that it's hard to find and set up is a blessing. For me, the best way to get bitcoins is to set up a Dwolla account, make a deposit there, transfer your deposit to Mt Gox, buy bitcoins there, and finally send them to your SR account. This process takes several days but it's worth it.
Title: Re: SR will never become mainstream as long as bitcoin is a p.i.t.a.
Post by: Notshadow on February 17, 2012, 10:02 pm
OR! Go to wal-mart and get a MoneyPak, and trade through one of the vendors (used to be more, now only 2 and they are trying to keep up). Its through escrow, all contained within SR..If you have been creeping the forums for a while, you should know this by now! But good luck to you regardless! 8)

-NS
Title: Re: SR will never become mainstream as long as bitcoin is a p.i.t.a.
Post by: rise_against on February 17, 2012, 10:26 pm
yeah, wal-mart / 7-11 get a green moneypak card and get some coins from BTC Buddy.   i could turn cash into coins in under 30 minutes that way.    something tells me they will start clamping down on moneypaks. 
Title: Re: SR will never become mainstream as long as bitcoin is a p.i.t.a.
Post by: killboy on February 17, 2012, 11:19 pm
so what is the exchange rate on usd to bcs? if i have a 100.00 dollar bill, what actually sees my ewallet?  dont those mp cards have service fees, activation fees, ect? then there is a btc buddy fee too.  do you see 90.00? or is it even more?
Im about to get into the currency exchange market, cause i see a demand with no adequate supply
Title: Re: SR will never become mainstream as long as bitcoin is a p.i.t.a.
Post by: themessenger2 on February 17, 2012, 11:53 pm
dwolla -> mt gox is free

mp -> BTC via trader here is not.

dwolla -> mt gox is not as anonymous, while mp -> BTC trader on SR is pretty anonymous.
Title: Re: SR will never become mainstream as long as bitcoin is a p.i.t.a.
Post by: ChaxChax on February 17, 2012, 11:58 pm
If you are Canadian, or know/trust a Canadian, you can fund your SR account with up to $1000 in about 3 hours.  Fact.
Title: Re: SR will never become mainstream as long as bitcoin is a p.i.t.a.
Post by: hitch22 on February 18, 2012, 02:02 am
I've been on SR for about two months or so now, and have been getting my BTC through the vendors on SR. Buy a moneypak, place a moneypak to BTC order and with some vendors you can literally have your coins within seconds, literally. Although, Suga Momma and BTC Buddy are a bit backed up as of late, there are always other vendors offering the service too, it's a super quick way to get coins. I love how easy, quickly and anonymously I get my coins! I also have the extra money to burn (at the moment) on the $5 MP fee and the vendors fee, so it works out great for my situation right now.
Title: Re: SR will never become mainstream as long as bitcoin is a p.i.t.a.
Post by: killboy on February 18, 2012, 03:11 am
on 100.00, if you do transfer via moneypack, do you end up with 90.00 after mp fee and vendor fee?  (escrow and trusted vendors only of course)
Title: Re: SR will never become mainstream as long as bitcoin is a p.i.t.a.
Post by: hitch22 on February 18, 2012, 06:55 am
on 100.00, if you do transfer via moneypack, do you end up with 90.00 after mp fee and vendor fee?  (escrow and trusted vendors only of course)


Well, the MP fee when you buy it at the store is right at $5, but the vendor fees vary from vendor to vendor. Check out the listings up on SR and the vendor pages and they should have their rates posted. It also depends on what the BTC market is like at the time of your transaction...
If there is a product I want for 26 BTC, I just ask a vendor how much $ I need to put on a MP to equal 26 BTC. Again, I spend a little extra but it's super easy, fast and anonymous!
Title: Re: SR will never become mainstream as long as bitcoin is a p.i.t.a.
Post by: A. Dubois on February 18, 2012, 06:59 am
@kill- I did exactly what you said for my first transaction- mt gox to bitinstant. Then mt gox to instawallet then on to SR. I was in the bank making the deposit at 10 am and was ordering on SR at about 3 pm. Received my badass package 6 days later through snail mail. Not a major deal if you ask me and it worked just fine. Don't worry so much! And while there ARE legit MP traders on SR that is just way too easy to get scammed. When bitinstant works that well I don't see any reason to take the risk of 1. getting totally scammed or 2. sitting there waiting for days while all the larger MP's get done before yours. Just my .02.
Title: Re: SR will never become mainstream as long as bitcoin is a p.i.t.a.
Post by: tehjiggy3 on February 18, 2012, 07:13 am
I'm with A.Dubois. The bitinstant -> mt.gox method worked really well for me today. I made a cash deposit and literally had my funds at mt. Gox within 15minutes. Super fast. I got my btc at market price and only had to pay a 4.49% transaction fee to bitinstant. I will gladly pay that for near instant btc.  The longest part of the whole process was waiting for my coins to hit the SR wallet. Which was still under an hour.

As to the point about Silk Road never going mainstream...I hope it doesn't. Don't get me wrong, I want to see it grow. Hell, I'm new here and very thankful I found it. And the buyers there are its safe to say there will be more vendors. So I'm all for site growth. But I agree that I would be scared if it reached Craigslist traffic level. It would definitely not be a good thing...IMO.

Title: Re: SR will never become mainstream as long as bitcoin is a p.i.t.a.
Post by: AverageGatsby on February 18, 2012, 11:15 am
I think that even if SR accepted credit cards, the majority of people are too ignorant to even realize the value that SR has.

Most drug users wont see the ROI of getting A+ product thats 1000% better than local goods, delivered to your doorstep within a matter of days, with added protection of escrow vs sourcing locally.

"What? I have to wait a week to get an order? And these prices are so high! I can just go to the corner slingers and get it within minutes for cheaper!"

Those who see the vision flock here, and those who dont stay away. I think this is a good thing for SR.

Or maybe I'm just a severe pessimist when it comes to mankind :)
Title: Re: SR will never become mainstream as long as bitcoin is a p.i.t.a.
Post by: Wonderland on February 18, 2012, 03:28 pm
I agree with you gatsby.. I even feel that in a lot of ways it is safer to order from SR than to get drugs on the street. I am definitely more comfortable checking the mail than driving around with stuff in the car.. and cameras are literally everywhere now, especially in the bigger cities. I am more than willing to put in the extra effort and pay a little bit extra knowing exactly what is going to happen.
Title: Re: SR will never become mainstream as long as bitcoin is a p.i.t.a.
Post by: vipxtrmn8r on February 18, 2012, 05:36 pm
If you are Canadian, or know/trust a Canadian, you can fund your SR account with up to $1000 in about 3 hours.  Fact.

This.  Took me all of 4 hours to fund my account.
Title: Re: SR will never become mainstream as long as bitcoin is a p.i.t.a.
Post by: thesilence981 on February 18, 2012, 07:14 pm
i really dont understand alot of you saying its hard to get btc.. so fucking easy once you figure it out

get-bitcoin.com
chase bank account transfer
24h turnaround
btc in my wallet
wallet-SR
SR-seller
Done..
Title: Re: SR will never become mainstream as long as bitcoin is a p.i.t.a.
Post by: Holly on February 18, 2012, 07:18 pm
i really dont understand alot of you saying its hard to get btc.. so fucking easy once you figure it out

get-bitcoin.com
chase bank account transfer
24h turnaround
btc in my wallet
wallet-SR
SR-seller
Done..


Yeah.... that's not the most anonymous way to get btc.
Title: Re: SR will never become mainstream as long as bitcoin is a p.i.t.a.
Post by: IgnorantFuck on February 18, 2012, 07:29 pm
i really dont understand alot of you saying its hard to get btc.. so fucking easy once you figure it out

get-bitcoin.com
chase bank account transfer
24h turnaround
btc in my wallet
wallet-SR
SR-seller
Done..


Yeah.... that's not the most anonymous way to get btc.

How is it not? They don't need your real name or your address or any information of yours for that matter.
Title: Re: SR will never become mainstream as long as bitcoin is a p.i.t.a.
Post by: ferdinand96 on February 18, 2012, 07:32 pm
I just bought some coins from get-bitcoin.com using the chase deposit method, I went into chase and made the deposit a few hours ago and was in and out within 2 minutes. There was a camera on the wall and the teller asked me my name which I was unprepared for, so I ended up saying my real one. Luckily they only wanted my first name. When I placed the order on get-bitcoin I had it directed straight to my SR wallet and I used a tormail address I made as the email, I also gave a fake name. I'm getting kind of nervous now. Am I at risk of being caught somehow now? Is it going to matter that I used a fake name on get-bitcoin but I used my real name in the bank? Fuck
Title: Re: SR will never become mainstream as long as bitcoin is a p.i.t.a.
Post by: thesilence981 on February 18, 2012, 11:58 pm
WOW you guys are parnoid as fuck haha

BTC IS 100% LEGAL TO BUY AND SELL

there is no way to track it once its in your wallet, sure i wouldnt give my SSN to anyone but Get-bitcoin.com doesnt ask for personal info, jesus christ you guys crack me up..

if your not retarded, getting BTC is the least of your worries, be 1000000% more worried about package interception
Title: Re: SR will never become mainstream as long as bitcoin is a p.i.t.a.
Post by: goatHerd on February 19, 2012, 12:56 am
I consider something mainstream when I overhear strangers talking about. Which has been the case several times in my experience regarding SR. It may be that SR is a bit more difficult for the average person to use, but doesn't that afford a built-in screening process? You have to have some level of competence to participate in this grand thing that is SR. The way I see it, SR is both mainstream and for those only in the know. We have here something completely new, revolutionary, even.

~From the meadow, goatHerd
P.S. Use Sugar Mama for your BTC exchange. They are extremely friendly and reliable.
Title: Re: SR will never become mainstream as long as bitcoin is a p.i.t.a.
Post by: anarcho47 on February 19, 2012, 05:34 am
You've actually heard strangers talk about SR somewhere in the f2f world?  Awesome.

I've never heard a peep.
Title: Re: SR will never become mainstream as long as bitcoin is a p.i.t.a.
Post by: drifter on February 19, 2012, 04:06 pm
Not sure I ever want to hear sr mentioned 'in real life'. I really don't want to mention it due to my (perhaps a bit paranoid?) fear that it could end up biting me in the bollocks. But the temptation to speak about it when I hear people bemoan the quality or scarcity of *insert drug here*, or even if they were talking about an article. The temptation could become too great.
Title: Re: SR will never become mainstream as long as bitcoin is a p.i.t.a.
Post by: Angelology on February 19, 2012, 04:34 pm
SO obviously i am a new member.  I went to get some Bitcoins, and what a p.i.t.a.

so if getting tor configured was enough hassle
1. created mt gox account WITHOUT tor protection (only way)
2. created bit-instant account
3. created a trust-cash account


Now I got to go to a bank and give them a trust-cash transaction id in hopes that....
Bit instant gets the funds and releases them to..........................................................
Mt gox so that i can hopefully make a successful send to my.......................................
SR ewallet so that i can................................................................................................
release funds early and hope i dont get scammed so that...........................................
hopefully my mail doesnt get confiscated in the mix.....................................................


I wish i could just set up a seller account and sell something to fund my wallet, would be much easier, but unfortunately you got to put like 150.00 in there to even do that.

I have been a member of forums for about 2 weeks now and a member of SR for about a month.  I am still not sure if I will ever go through with a transaction because of the difficulty of things and probabilities that steps 1-6 could fail.


Anybody else in my shoes right now? just curios. thx
You could just buy MP, and then exchange that straight to BTC...
Title: Re: SR will never become mainstream as long as bitcoin is a p.i.t.a.
Post by: A. Dubois on February 22, 2012, 05:31 am
The MP to BTC is the #1 scam on SR. I would never do it, even with a reputable vendor.
Title: Re: SR will never become mainstream as long as bitcoin is a p.i.t.a.
Post by: anaballin on February 22, 2012, 05:37 am
SO obviously i am a new member.  I went to get some Bitcoins, and what a p.i.t.a.

Anybody else in my shoes right now? just curios. thx

For a 20% fee I will do everything for you! Have it shipped straight to your house. If interested pm me!
Title: Re: SR will never become mainstream as long as bitcoin is a p.i.t.a.
Post by: tehjiggy3 on February 27, 2012, 05:36 am
I don't see why this thread is still active. BTC is not that hard to come by.

Don't use the MP to BTC vendors, at least, I wouldn't. Not when you can do the anonymous deposit through Bitinstant and buy your coins right from MtGox. Not only is it easy enough for lab chimps, its also fast as hell. You'll have your BTC on silk road making purchases in less than 3 hours from start to finish.

If you really think BTC are a pain in the ass, even with that simple and fast of a process, you might just be better off with a real world f2f drug dealer. Silk Road might not be for you...

Cheers!
-Jig
Title: Re: SR will never become mainstream as long as bitcoin is a p.i.t.a.
Post by: Rawr on February 27, 2012, 07:47 am
 I agree with you...somewhat. On one hand, Having an easier process of exchanging currency into BTC would be grand! But, do we really WANT SR to become mainstream? I'm not necessarily against SR growing, but what about all the complications that come along with a booming website? If large, legal sites such as craigslist get legal troubles, could you imagine the kind of negative attention SR would attract? I am thrilled I found this place, and yes, it took quite a bit of effort to actually use it; but this is a pretty effective screening process for unwanted attention. And now that I have found this amazing place of like minded folk, I don't want to see it go away.
Title: Re: SR will never become mainstream as long as bitcoin is a p.i.t.a.
Post by: OldGuard on February 27, 2012, 06:34 pm
If someone is not willing to go through the time and effort (not really that hard) to learn the system and buy bits then they are more then likely to be reckless in the way the conduct themselves on SR and that is the last thing we need. SR does not need to be mainstream to be successful and it will more likely be more successful if it is not a mainstream thing that any teenager can get on buy some stuff and then do stupid things that hurt themselves or someone else and then blame it on SR.

All it is going to take is one incident like that for parent groups to start making more noise about the site and force LE to go harder after it then it does now since and that is the last thing any of us need.