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Market => Rumor mill => Topic started by: Holland_SR on January 17, 2012, 10:57 am
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Getting ready to start selling again, but I need to counter the recent negative experience. A Belgian post fuck up messed with my feedback quite a bit. So let's see if anyone likes our weed still!
WHO SMOKED OUR POWER PLANT/AMNESIA HAZE AND LIKED IT?
Will send a free 10g Amnesia Haze to the last reply within a few days ; )
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Hey, Holland!
First of all, good luck sorting out those unhappy customers!
Second of all, your PowerPlant was my alltime favorite weed for a long time, but I just received Jack Herer strain from Anarcho47, and it's damn good too! Now I know Amnesia Haze is supposed to be higher grade than PowerPlant, I'm really curious to try it and compare. (if you remember I wanted to buy some of it, but was a bit short on BTC). Now I'm out of BTC and it's pain in the ass to get them in my 'parts of town', freebie would be simply awesome. :) Let me know if you've got something for me;) Review guaranteed.
Cheers,
Bob
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I only tried 10g of powerplant, but i fucking LOVED it, yeah it wasn't the best i ever tried, it would be impossible since i tried almost every strain during my trips to 'dam, but for it's price it would still be my choice overall.
Of course it's just another level compared to any weed you can get here, that goes without saying.
Anyway i'd just love to see you back in business again.
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had your powerplant couple of times and it was completely awesome every single fucking time. it was really the best weed i ever had here, couldn't get any better domestic and the few other ones i tried here on sr couldn't step up to it yet. would love to see a free sample of your amnesia haze in my mail soon ;P
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I ordered more than 100g of holland's PPP, and i just can say, his weed is just AMAZING.
I do some many Netherlands Travel, for smoke the best European weed, and when i receive the Holland's weed, i felt like in netherlands coffee shop :)
Effect is high, flavor is just perfect, fresh and not hard, and the smell is really great !
For the vendor, he is simply perfect, friendly and he will help you for convert your money to BTC :)
I can uniquely recommend this guy.
If you want a great weed at low price, Holland is the guy:)
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My previous order (10g pp) is still on its way or never sended?
Jippe
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The PowerPlant is a great uplifting sativa at a very nice price. I think the repeat orders speak for themselves. Will you stick with Belgium as the shipping country once you start selling?
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MY friend ordered some of his powerplant and i got the opportunity to smoke a couple bowls of it.
It got me really high with less than half a gram of material :) And I smoke oils.
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bought (and smoked) more than 100 grams of his power plant.
that weed is awesome and at a great price. best weed european seller here on SR imho.
Holland you need to get back selling asap! I want more!
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Bought 10g of Powerplant from Holland and it was perfect in every way!
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Holland's weed is very good, hence why I was upset about the Belgian post fuckup making me not receive my order...
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ordered only 1 time from Holland, liked it very much - was searching a while for you but u did't had any listings up, so i needed to order from someone else. bud wasn't that good!
will order again from you!
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I loved the one order I had.
I wish the second order would have gone through well, I wanted you to be my normal supplier, but I had to stick with shit overpriced weed :(.
Anyway hope you get your issuses sorted out soon.
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I'll take a free sample :) Id love to see what you've got in store
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Holland was my first buy when i found out SR,and i used to order just from him until i saw he didn't have any more posts up in SR. I even recommended him to some of my friends :) PP was great, and the price was even greater. Even 1g sample of Amnesia Haze will be more than enough for me, since i always wanted to try it but the price is a bit too much for me :)
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I bought several times for you and it always was perfect nice weed.
The PP is a great all day weed, though it can kill your tolerance with lesser potent products. ,-)
The AH was bomb! my absolute favorite, strong cheese smell and when burnt the nice hazy smell. And your price was great for this strain.
I hope you will vent again, though I have no clue what happened?! Our transactions went smooth and professional can you explain what happened? (will search later in the threads)
But I will contact you again and would love to do business again. Right now I have to check for my own security first. So please tell me what caused the trouble in the forums? Are you the same group? Intercepted or something like that is my worry right now.
take care
no_pain
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Holland was my favorite seller, I absolutely loved the powerplant, possible even more than the Amnesia Haze. Come back Holland come back, would love to have some more. The place where I live is the worst for hook-ups..glad for SR and sellers like Holland :) Thanks
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Holland, I've ordered from you before and I very much enjoyed my last order of power plant. very pleasant smoke, weight dead-on and well packaged however like a lot of other posters here I would like to hear a reply to my messages about the order from mid-december that has gone missing. Even if it's to say "OK I set a deadline of <whenever> after that I'll treat these orders as lost and we will work something out". The silence is becoming deafening.
I can vouch for your product and service being great in the past but until this is resolved not so much... I'm sorry I can't say better than that but I am just being honest - until some replies start coming in I just couldn't recommend you.
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building up the next scam, are we? PP was weak and dried out extremely quickly, which is a clear sign of unwanted chemicals. And we all know about the big A-Haze SCAM.
DO NOT BUY FROM THIS LOSER !
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I don't know what's happened to Holland's business as of late....but I can say that the times I ordered I got what I paid for. Started out with some PowerPlant when he first offered it. I found it to be a real nice strain. It was cured fine and got me very high. I had him ship it from Belgium for obvious reasons and it arrived no problem. I jumped on the Amnesia Haze listing and had it arrive just before Christmas. Some damm sticky weed. Very impressed. Then he raised the price on the listing by like $50 just before New years I think. He always answered my PM's and I loved getting some fine weed direct from Holland. I'm sorry to read about people's pkg's not arrived and Holland not responding to PM's. Seems like something happened because I do not believe he is a scammer. That doesn't help you if your weed never arrived so I hope he works it out. Responding to pm's would be a good start.
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So
You've got the time and resources to send out free 10g of weed
But not enough to even ANSWER your returning customers who feel extremely burnt?
I want my 10g of PP, or you can send amnezia haze in its place, or a refund
A REPLY to begin with would have been nice
You seem to be thinking "oh I'll help get my rep back up by giving somebody some free shit" rather than "a better way may be to reply to and sort out all the many, many, many buyers who havn't gotten so much as a reply from me yet alone a refund or any weed"
What the hell is going on?
LISTEN, TO ALL OF YOUR CUSTOMERS, YOU KNOW, THE PEOPLE WHO - WILL - MAKE OR BREAK YOU.
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Havent tried yet :(
But id LOVE a sample >:D
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Been wanting to try but he hasnt been here :/ If I knew it was that good I would be getting it all the time.
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So
You've got the time and resources to send out free 10g of weed
But not enough to even ANSWER your returning customers who feel extremely burnt?
I want my 10g of PP, or you can send amnezia haze in its place, or a refund
A REPLY to begin with would have been nice
You seem to be thinking "oh I'll help get my rep back up by giving somebody some free shit" rather than "a better way may be to reply to and sort out all the many, many, many buyers who havn't gotten so much as a reply from me yet alone a refund or any weed"
What the hell is going on?
LISTEN, TO ALL OF YOUR CUSTOMERS, YOU KNOW, THE PEOPLE WHO - WILL - MAKE OR BREAK YOU.
Agreed, 100%. My messages haven't even been looked at. This is extremely disrespectful, Holland.
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I've tried powerplant, and it was great! Would be very happy to try some amnesia haze.
How is this thread meant to help? There are already a couple threads full of happy customers, you have loads of feedback on SR that is positive, all this will do is dig up all the people that *at some point* got good product. Yes, everybody knows that. What is needed now is a stack of new feedback from orders this year of good feedback, not old feedback retyped.
And if there are a bunch of people still not dealt with from the December problems... Well, that doesn't really look good.
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Being that I am new to SR and have already been scammed twice a free sample would be an awesome gesture and a guaranteed lifetime customer to that vendor. Plus goes to show you got pride in your product if your willing to send out free samples it must be dank and people are going to always come back for true dank. Not like some off the vendors on here that just stick a name to there product and expect us true Connoisseur ( not just stoners ) to not realize, hey this isn't top shelf medicinal grade product!? Would be nice to see some true medicinal cannabis for once and free samples of that only make it better, lol ;D Heard great things about Holland_SR would love to test the waters myself!!!!
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had 10g of the Powerplant back in November and it was just some of the most beautiful bud, I was concerned when I heard that Holland had started scamming so I hope everything returns to normal and we get some more of that good PP back ;D
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I tried Holland's powerplant last year and have actually been waiting for him to list more. It has so far been the best strain I've had from SR and I just want more of it to be listed so I can order some more.
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Heya folks! I bought some PP a few months back and it arrived within 5 days, and it was awesome! But the last time I ordered I didn't get shit! This was in the time that ppl weren't getting their orders and the complaints started rolling. I hope holland will resolve this problem and I also hope I win 10g free weed!
I'm thinking he probably sold out or something like that. because the first time his service was just way awesome!
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last reply ;)
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Hey Holland, I've only made one order from you but I have to say your weed is amazing man! From all the products that I've ordered here on silkroad, PP gave me the best high so I'd happily sample that amnesia haze!!! I'm quite hyped already :D
Cheers
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Last reply :0
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could you describe how Amnesia Haze is like?
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final reply :)?
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(this is like my 4th forum account, I keep forgetting my password haha)
I ordered over 2 ounces of PowerPlant from Holland last year and honestly it was the best online purchase I have ever made. Where i live in the UK good weed is very hard to come by so for me to try this stuff was an absolute blessing and I can't thank you enough or emphasize how much I appreciated the service!!
Communication/delivery/packaging/product were all 10/10.
I've been off this site for a couple months but i came back this week specifically to see if Holland had any more for sale but I've seen listings are off for the moment and after reading the forums I'm glad to see you will be returning, peace and much respect.
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ok ok allright now just let me know i won please :D
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hehe, well I know for a fact that power plant is one epic strain right there and if coupled with Amnesia Haze...
phew :)
I can only imagine the dramatic highness the strain can bring.. :D
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Why the hell should some random person get a free 10g
When the people who BOUGHT 10g off of you as a returning customer haven't gotten that, or a refund or so much as a reply?
It's beyond insulting, to so many people.
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I'm beginning to doubt the legitimacy of this thread...
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looks like he has riped me for 20gs of power plant wont reply to messages since nov
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Rassu322- Holland sent me 10g Amnesia Haze for free just before xmas on a thread similar to this. I've always found him to be a good seller- fast communication, speedy and stealthy delivery and excellent product.
I really hope he hasn't gone bad as he was one of my favopurite sellers on Silk Road. The profits to be made as a vendor must surely outweigh a short bout of scamming, I can't understand why top notch vendors end up doing this.
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I just came back to SR after about a month away looking for Holland and was dismayed that I couldnt find you anywhere. You were the only vendor I was going to use, hope you're back soon!
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So what happened with the Belgium fuck up?
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Holland maybe you should sort out your burnt pre-existing customers before you start looking for new ones..
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been on sr a while. i was stung by 'Holland' might i just say, this thread may be some evidence gathering plot by the authorities. be careful.
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Yeah well screw Holland
Shows no respect to buyers.
There are some promising new people on the EU Block! :D
Check out OrganicBuds who has some great introductory offers right now and ships from West Europe:
http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/index.php/silkroad/user/135830
wps who has PowerPlant and I believe open to custom listings etc. in Germany:
http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/index.php/silkroad/user/111006
Planta another new NL based seller interesting selection of strains:
http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/index.php/silkroad/user/72200
Baroso another German based vendor who has a nice selection of very fairly priced outdoor grown buds:
http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/index.php/silkroad/user/138027
Of course these are new sellers, so for now stick to escrow.
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Bump. Went strangely quiet here, has everyone written it off as a loss (150euros 4 me) or, am i right with my previous post perhaps?
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i wouldn't mind a free sample either. i would greatly appreciate it :)
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Bump. Went strangely quiet here, has everyone written it off as a loss (150euros 4 me) or, am i right with my previous post perhaps?
never had a loss. But wouldnt touch Holland even if he comes back. Something really stinks here.
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I ordered from Holland in early December before the christmas rush, while his power plant was on a super sale! ($9.99 a gram).
Ordered 10g from him, my first order on SR, ordered on a friday late at night..to my surprise package arrived Monday morning instantly, really fast for EU to EU and over weekend, impressive.
Weed was slightly compressed in vac sealed bag but after opening damn, the smell was crazy! Little compression don't hurt anyone, buds grinded into a lot anyway :) Pretty strong good high, made December a good month for me! (Package was overweight by 2g too), he made my first SR experience really great.
Unfortunately when I finished it all and ready to order again, he was gone and everyone was hating on him and calling him a scammer, come on guys, everyone has problems, and he said he will sort you out and fix things...I can vouch from my experience he is a no bs seller who just found some problems, with so little good EU based sellers we should be good to Holland who is reliable with good prices! Will eagerly await your new listings.
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Bump. Went strangely quiet here, has everyone written it off as a loss (150euros 4 me) or, am i right with my previous post perhaps?
never had a loss. But would'nt touch Holland even if he comes back. Something really stinks here.
Yeah i think your right mate, appears far too dodgy. And it sure ain't the Power Plant that's stinking. Personally i think it was a long-confidence gain SCAM operation, and he/she will do it again.
Say If he/she had been busted or whatever, it's logical to get someone to put the word out to the forums/SR to stop major panic, especially over Xmas and New Year. A professional seller would have made those arrangements you would think?
If he/she did SCAM over that period, with people struggling to pay for Xmas presents etc My trust in SR had diminished slightly and a vow never to release early as i've got a pretty good buyer record which i feel justifies that vow.
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I ordered from Holland in early December before the christmas rush,......
Lucky you. I order late November and never received it.
There are some promising new people on the EU Block! :D
Great post, thanks for the heads up on those guys!
I personally think that Hollands story is plausible. He's a big seller and if he has to move his entire operation then that's a big job and I can understand why he doesn't have time to deal with annoying people asking for relatively small amounts when he has prob lost a lot of money.
I'm not saying anyone here is annoying, I'm saying to him, with all the stuff he may have to deal with then you (and I) probably are. For the record you guys are entirely justified, I think the customer is always right and I have sent a fair few emails to him myself.
If he ever does sort it out and starts selling again without sorting us all out then I'm gunna be pretty fucking angry, but as it stands, life goes on.
Of course this is only from my perspective and I didn't order half as much as some of you. So I can't imagine what it's like for a lot of you. The only thing I have to say on that matter is that life goes on and at present there's nothing to do about it. If I were you I would write it off and kick up a fuss if he ever comes back.
Truth be told he prob didn't lose that much money given the fact that the value of bitcoins has doubled (if he cashed in a week ago-almost tripled!) and the fact that he may have had to move his entire operation is a setback that should be expected given the business he is in.
So, IMO I think we deserve what is owed and he has no right to continue selling again untill he reaches a satisfactory resolution with us but atm, there's nowt we can do. Personally, as it stands, I would rather have the bitcoins back.
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He's disrespectful to people he doesn't know and i have evidence. Yes i got scammed.
To be honest, i received a message from him, late 2011 and i got a very anti-American vibe from Holland. I'm from another part of the EU and i'm not American BUT Holland_SR didn't know that at first so could easily have offended me. I don't want to go into detail but it got me thinking at the time, this seller is either very young and immature or possibly of a religion that isn't very keen on America. Just my thoughts.
We'll never know the truth, can we handle the truth?
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i ordered 20gs of pp in November and he still hasnt even opened my messages to read the problem i have so he already knows he has scammed every1 and doesnt give a shit coz they hasnt lost out they have made and whats to stop holland from opening a new account under a new name ?? id be careful of any new dutch or Belgium sellers
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i ordered 20gs of pp in November and he still hasnt even opened my messages to read the problem i have so he already knows he has scammed every1 and doesnt give a shit coz they hasnt lost out they have made and whats to stop holland from opening a new account under a new name ?? id be careful of any new dutch or Belgium sellers
yes you are spot-on. i think HOLLAND is operating under a NEW IDENTITY FROM AMSTERDAM.
HOLLANDS profile and adverts are VERY SIMILAR IN STYLE TO A CURRENT SELLER FROM AMSTERDAM who in their profile, lists POWER PLANT as their main strain.
HAVE A LOOK AT THE LISTINGS EVERYONE WHO GOT SCAMMED, see if you can spot the similar style attention grabbing ads. watch this space, i reckon another SCAM coming within a few months.
AND YEAH....WHERE ARE THE PROOF OF POSTAL CONFIRMATIONS?
Beware of sellers from Amsterdam, Netherlands or Belgium.
Never release early with this crowd. Sorry to say but HOLLAND_SR has ruined those countries seller reputation by SCAMMING.
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i ordered 20gs of pp in November and he still hasnt even opened my messages to read the problem i have so he already knows he has scammed every1 and doesnt give a shit coz they hasnt lost out they have made and whats to stop holland from opening a new account under a new name ?? id be careful of any new dutch or Belgium sellers
yes you are spot-on. i think HOLLAND is operating under a NEW IDENTITY FROM AMSTERDAM.
HOLLANDS profile and adverts are VERY SIMILAR IN STYLE TO A CURRENT SELLER FROM AMSTERDAM who in their profile, lists POWER PLANT as their main strain.
HAVE A LOOK AT THE LISTINGS EVERYONE WHO GOT SCAMMED, see if you can spot the similar style attention grabbing ads. watch this space, i reckon another SCAM coming within a few months.
AND YEAH....WHERE ARE THE PROOF OF POSTAL CONFIRMATIONS?
Beware of sellers from Amsterdam, Netherlands or Belgium.
Never release early with this crowd. Sorry to say but HOLLAND_SR has ruined those countries seller reputation by SCAMMING.
What new seller? WHY WOULDN'T YOU NAME HIM MAN?
I just got 15g PowerPlant, expecting it tomorrow from a new seller in GERMANY, called wps........ but hold up, didn't Holland say something about setting up shop, since they seemed to be both in Netherlands and Belgium quite easily, who's to say they dont just open up in Germany, of course I have no evidence of this just speculating..
I want my 60 fucking pounds or 10g of bud :(
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What new seller? WHY WOULDN'T YOU NAME HIM MAN?
I just got 15g PowerPlant, expecting it tomorrow from a new seller in GERMANY, called wps........ but hold up, didn't Holland say something about setting up shop, since they seemed to be both in Netherlands and Belgium quite easily, who's to say they dont just open up in Germany, of course I have no evidence of this just speculating..
I want my 60 fucking pounds or 10g of bud :(
PM sent mate. Never named on open forum in case i bugger up a legit sellers rep. No not WPS. Your right i was thinking they could operate out of Germany but i think that's a bit much hassle when there probably was no post fuck up in Belgium and they could revert quite easily back to sending from the Netherlands. Pretty confident he's still operating and sending from the Netherlands at the moment. I'm so close, i think i can smell my Power Plant.....and i'll be taking back more than what i'm owed!
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Just another post
To remind us all
Holland has still left a sea of people with NO refund, NO reply and NO order
This was of course not long after he introduced a new policy to finalize early..
Going on 2 months now.
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Ok, i think the seller AMSTERDAMSHOP is the new name that HOLLAND is using.
Loads of similarities i've noticed - over the top adverts, special offers, Power plant listed in description but none available (did he run out and was selling from both accounts?), AMSTERDAMSHOP joined as a seller i believe in Oct 2011, just in time for him/her to set up the scam he/she did.
Also, AMSTERDAMSHOP is operating a finalize early policy, as well as a 100% buyer takes all responsibility if things go tits up. Who in their right mind is going to do that knowing what the behaviour of Holland the seller was like? I'll tell you who, naive newbies who aren't on this forum i bet.
AMSTERDAMSHOP is running some sort of 'SPECIAL CANNABIS OFFER, very reminiscent of Holland. Judge for yourselves.
Cheers
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Maybe I lost out £40 (5g), but at least now I will never finalize early again.
Come on holland, sort it out :(
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I always thought Holland was a solid vendor with some really really really fine weed straight from the Netherlands by way of Belgium. ;-) I consider myself lucky I guess that both orders that I placed with him came thru with NO PROBLEM. I stayed in escrow the whole time and I absolutely LOVED his ganja. That Amnesia Haze was so STICKY & COVERED in CRYSTALS. It's sad to see so many others disappointed. What happened Holland???
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Ok, i think the seller AMSTERDAMSHOP is the new name that HOLLAND is using.
Loads of similarities i've noticed - over the top adverts, special offers, Power plant listed in description but none available (did he run out and was selling from both accounts?), AMSTERDAMSHOP joined as a seller i believe in Oct 2011, just in time for him/her to set up the scam he/she did.
Also, AMSTERDAMSHOP is operating a finalize early policy, as well as a 100% buyer takes all responsibility if things go tits up. Who in their right mind is going to do that knowing what the behaviour of Holland the seller was like? I'll tell you who, naive newbies who aren't on this forum i bet.
AMSTERDAMSHOP is running some sort of 'SPECIAL CANNABIS OFFER, very reminiscent of Holland. Judge for yourselves.
Cheers
AmsterdamShop does not currently sell Powerplant. They sell SuperSilverHaze and NLX. Previously they had NorthernLights and PowerPlant. Powerplant is a very popular strain in Holland, lots of vendors have it!
Don't you think if it was Holland then he would have the Powerplant NOW? And what of all that Amnesia Haze? AmsterdamShop does not sell that strain. They used to sell pre-rolled joints as well, a service that Holland has never offered.
I am going to say now that I unequivocally believe that you have just accused the wrong person. The only similarities that I can see between AmsterdamShop and Holland is that they are both from the Netherlands.
On another note sellers make their listing as bold as possible to get attention for their wares. It's a basic business technique that many sellers employ on SR alone. Just because someone has the merest inkling of good business practice, it does not make them a scammer.
I would love to follow your train of logic with this but I really can not. Of all the people I expected, it was not AmsterdamShop.
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there is a new vender from holland with the same type of caplock wrighting as holland kinda the same menu and the take ukash mmmm?? sound like a winner to any1??
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I don't think that we should idly speculate who it might be for risk of marring a legit sellers reputation.
However, there is a seller who has sprung up in the last month, who has massive amounts of Powerplant to sell, stocks Amnesia Haze, has Afghan hash (which Holland said on his page he was about to get in before he went dark) and is from the Netherlands.
I have no idea how you would go about verifying his identity but it looks awfully suspicious to me.
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Is ANYTHING going to be done about all this and Holland?
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What can be done? Those who used escrow have got their refunds, those who went out of escrow... Lesson learned for next time hopefully. A bunch of people lost money, it happens. USE ESCROW.
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I ordered 10g of his Powerplant in Dez when it was in sale.
I was a little bit short of Bitcoins, so he was that nice to rent me a half one.
The communication was great and he seems to be a nice guy, so I really wondered that he got negative reply's for his last Orders.
The Weed was great and the shipping time was very fast. I was very happy.
I would order again from him, if I see he is getting good reply's through.