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Market => Rumor mill => Topic started by: CapitalG on December 27, 2011, 06:24 am
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UPDATES ARE AT THE BOTTOM
I would like to share my woes with the rest of Silk Road, that you all might be spared the pain of dealing with this vendor.
In late November, I placed an order with the SR vendor called "MileHighMedicine." I sent the vendor a message, requesting that they inform me when they shipped the package. One day later, it was marked "in transit," meaning that the vendor has packaged the product and placed it in the mail. I took this on good faith, assuming that (due to their good reviews) I could trust their word.
A week later, I hadn't seen any package, so I checked up on the order. No messages had been sent, no delays had been reported, and other reviews of the vendor stated that the product often took longer than normal to arrive. So I assumed that it was the normal shipping delay. But, just to be sure, I sent the vendor a message asking for an update, just to verify shipping.
After another week, the package still hadn't arrived, and I had not received any response to my message. I went back to check on the order. As per the vendor's instructions on the site, "If you have not received at the predefined period of 14 days maxiumum, you should put the item into dispute." So I did. I put the order into dispute, explained the situation, and asked that a refund be given if the item had not shipped. By this point I was getting a bit annoyed, as I've never had a vendor take so long to deliver a package before.
The vendor stated on their profile that "By the expiration of the dispute I will either provide a DCN as proof of shipping or issue a refund." This never happened.
I checked on the resolution multiple times a day. The resolution expired without milehighmedicine ever providing a refund or a DCN. The resolution was turned over to an admin. The admin gave them an extension, in the hopes that they'd respond.
Shortly before the extension expired, MileHighMedicine finally posted a response:
"Sorry for the delay. Your order is now on its way. Here is the DCN number it should load in a day or so: XXXX XXXX XXXX XXXX XXXX."
THE VENDOR WAITED UNTIL AFTER THE EXTENSION TO EVEN SHIP MY PACKAGE.
At this point I was (justifiably) quite upset. However, the package was supposedly in the mail (despite the fact that a DCN simply proves that a package was shipped, not that it was the actual item ordered). So I requested that, due to the fact that the vendor had failed to ship until after the resolution had expired, despite having marked the package "in transit" over 20 days prior, I should receive a 50% refund. (Which, I believe, is more than fair, due to the amount of time, money, and stress wasted on waiting to receive this package. I lost business and income due to the vendor's delays and crappy business practices.)
The admins even agreed that a 50% refund was more than reasonable considering the circumstances.
After another 5 days, the vendor had still not responded to my resolution proposition. I had to leave town and had still not received the package. I made it clear that I would not finalize the purchase until the package had been weighed and verified, and even then, not until a resolution had been agreed upon.
Another 6 days later, the vendor finally responded by posting the shipping details of my package openly in the Resolution Center. They refused to offer refund, stating that they had followed their business practices as outlined on their profile. They stated that, due to the fact that the DCN reports that the package was delivered, they would not issue a refund of any kind (despite the fact that the package's contents could not be verified as I was out of town).
As it stands, I've lost a great deal of business, time, and money due to MHM's shitty business practices. If this were a legit company, they'd have been sued out of existence by this point for shady business practices. Unfortunately, the only thing I can do is ask the admins for help and report their foul dealings on the forums.
1. MHM fraudulently marked the package "in transit," violating my trust.
2. MHM did not actually ship the package until after the resolution offer had expired and an admin had extended the time limit.
3. MHM ignored all of the attempts I'd made to communicate with them, even after the order had been disputed.
4. MHM, through their dishonesty, cost me time, money, and business, and refuses to acknowledge their fault.
5. MHM completely violated their own business agreement, as stated on their profile.
The most I have asked is 50% refund to help cover damages. MHM still refuses to budge. It's been over a month now.
Ladies and Gentlemen, Boys and Girls, I highly advise that you do not trust MileHighMedicine. I have never in my life experienced such horrendous, fraudulent, and disrespectful service from any business, anywhere.
Save yourself a world of trouble, shop with someone else.
UPDATE 1: Once I get home and verify that the package was delivered, I will inspect the package and weigh the contents. I will then update this thread to report whether MHM actually shipped the advertised product. As we all know, DCNs are nice, but they can't verify that the contents of the package match the product ordered. Check back after the 29th and I'll keep you updated.
UPDATE 2: The package finally arrived. I inspected the contents and the product. Everything was neatly and professionally packaged, and the product was EXACTLY the weight I had ordered (not over or under by even a gram). So yes, the product finally arrived (though it was over 1 month late). But I am still requesting a 50% refund due to the time, money, and stress caused by MHM's dishonest business practices. I still advise all buyers to steer clear -- this is more hassle than anyone should have to deal with.
UPDATE 3: The resolution has expired numerous times, and MHM has continued to ignore it entirely. Not a word via PM or resolution reply. Basically, I assume that one of two things is happening here: a) MHM doesn't care anymore, and is simply ignoring the entire issue, or b) MHM is simply doing everything they can to draw out the ordeal, causing me (and the admins) to wait. This is completely ridiculous. The admins have, on numerous occasions, extended the due date for the resolution simply because MHM has refused to make any comment or response. It has been 40 days since the purchase was made and MHM has still made no efforts to reach a resolution. Simply unacceptable.
UPDATE 4: The resolution expired again, and the admins extended it again. Finally, after it expired, MHM replied. She refused to give a refund, stating that any damages incurred due to her failure to ship are not her fault and not covered by her contract. She claims that she's done nothing wrong. She states that by providing the DCN she is no longer liable for any refunds, and claims that her actions are not fraudulent. This is, of course, ignoring the fact that the resolution expired before she even shipped the package or posted a DCN, and ignoring the fact that she marked it "in transit" over 2 weeks before actually shipping the product. In her profile she states that she will issue a refund if the DCN is not posted before the end of the dispute, yet the dispute expired and had to be extended before a DCN was posted! She's obviously lying left and right. By my definition, that's called "fraud."
I have appealed to the Administrators to step in on this issue. It is obvious that MHM is not going to back down. So I have requested that the administrators cease extending the resolution and simply make their decision and enforce it. If they feel that MHM has done nothing wrong and that I do not deserve a refund, then they should finalize and be done with it. If, however, they feel that MHM has acted fraudulently, and that some form of refund would be fair, then they can issue the refund and close the resolution altogether. The ball is in their court. I'm done.
FINAL UPDATE: The admins stepped in and forced a resolution. I was refunded 20% (which I consider fair). I'm glad to see that the SR staff are intelligent and just. Here is what they said:
Dear CapitalG and milehighmedicine,
I am sorry you could not come to a resolution. We have settled on a refund of 20%. I hope this is agreeable for you both.
Because the item did arrive eventually, a 50/50 split would not be fair. However, mhm, you absolutely must not click confirm shipment until the item is actually in the mail stream. 20% is fair compensation for the delay and uncertainty your actions caused CapitalG.
If you have any questions or concerns, please do not hesitate to reply to this message.
Best regards,
Silk Road staff
Thanks to everyone who gave their support, and I hope that this thread will serve as a warning to any future customers.
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Sorry about your bad experience. :(. Thanks for taking the time to write this up.
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Sorry about your bad experience. :(. Thanks for taking the time to write this up.
I'm happy to take the time, if it means my fellow SR friends won't have to suffer through the same crap I've been through.
Also, I've done some reading, and it seems I'm not the only person who's been screwed over by this guy. Another customer stated that they finalized early (due to MHM's rating) and MHM refused to ship their package. When they inquired about it, MHM responded that the customer was a scammer, and that they didn't deal with scammers. So, basically, MHM stole their money, straight up.
Steer clear.
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Another update, having done more research:
I am not the first person who has had problems with MHM. According to a number of other posts on the forums, it would seem that MHM is a scammer, staying legit enough to stay just below the radar. I have included a list of links to various posts on the forums detailing the various problems people have had with this vendor.
Also, if you take a look at the vendor's history, they've only been around 2 months, yet they have 5-star reviews since the very beginning, many of which use the same writing style and rating style. They've had multiple 5-star reviews per month since the very beginning, which in its own right isn't bad, but looks mighty suspicious when you look at them in relation to their performance.
It looks as if MHM has created fake accounts to "fluff" their ratings so that they could quickly scam their customers. And based on the evidence provided in the forums, it seems fairly clear that MHM is scamming people out of their money.
Once I get back in town and am able to inspect the package sent, I will update the resolution center accordingly. If the product is as advertised, I will still be expecting a 50% refund due to the financial damages caused by MHM's poor business practices. If the product is NOT as advertised, I will post pictures detailing the exact specifications of the package and its contents, so that the admins are able to see exactly what was sent. I will also demand a 100% refund if the package is not as advertised.
I find it quite disheartening that MHM has been allowed to work for this long without any consequences for their shady business practices.
Until the package is inspected, I shall change my resolution to 100% refund, so that I don't get cheated out of 50% if the package is not as advertised. Hopefully everything is on the up-and-up, and the only issue will have been irresponsible shipping delays.
Here is a list of links to various comments and complaints about MHM's services:
http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=5168.msg43709#msg43709
http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=3520.msg61235#msg61235
http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=5590.msg54504#msg54504 - purchase made, not shipped, read the next few comments
http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=5590.msg55252#msg55252 - ripped off
http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=5590.msg55316#msg55316 - fraudulently marked "in transit," shipped 2 weeks late after complaint
http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=5590.msg55599#msg55599 - another marked "in transit" fraudulently
http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=5235.msg54436#msg54436 - product not as advertised
http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=5235.msg54667#msg54667 - more details
http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=5168.msg44259#msg44259 - TT and MHM have admitted to working together, here's a complaint
http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=4449.msg39133#msg39133 - MHM fails to respond to messages
http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=4449.msg69255#msg69255
http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=7158.msg63884#msg63884 - MHM ships underweight, only remedies situation after buyer purchases more
As you'll see from the list, there are even reports that some of MHM's products are not as advertised -- LSD blotters that contain no LSD, etc. This should be taken into account.
There is also significant evidence that points to MHM and the user named "Time Traveler" being the same person, with numerous complaints about TT as well. It would seem that TT created a new account as MHM to get away from previous complaints. (They explain it as being a married couple.)
I wish I'd known all this before ever making a purchase, but now that it's been done, I'm going to make every effort I can to protect myself and others from purchasing from this vendor.
So, until I am able to see the actual package, I will keep this at 100% refund, because I'm extremely suspicious now. I will adjust later, once I've seen the package.
~CG
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I bought shrooms from him/her twice. Both times I got prompt delivery and good product.
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Capital I was the one you mentioned who finalized early and got fucked. MHM is a lil bitch I bet he sends the coins to a separate vendor to make an order and collect the profits. TT was shady enough to think his wife or partner or still HIMSELF wasn't either was foolish. Still don't give a fuck it was just $320 I knew the risks and it wasn't even a small loss for me. Still, f that prick.
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Thanks for sharing Capitol G. I'm definitely going to steer clear of that guy. I was considering making a purchase from him. Not now not ever......
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I bought shrooms from him/her twice. Both times I got prompt delivery and good product.
I'm curious to know (if you don't mind sharing) the quantities you ordered. From what I've seen of various reports, the smaller shipments are completed with little fuss, but as soon as you make a bigger shipment (1oz or higher) MHM gives you the run around.
This type of behavior reminds me a good deal of a scam where people complete small transactions to build trust, then when someone attempts a much larger transaction, they steal the money and disappear. In this case, MHM would complete smaller transactions to build reputation and trust, then when people attempt larger transactions, she'd take steps to try to trick the customer into finalizing before receiving their product. Many people finalize earlier for trusted sellers, and many people will finalize upon receiving a DCN, trusting that the seller has, in fact, shipped their goods. Anyone who finalizes without product in hand gets screwed over.
This is what MHM's modus operandi seems to be, which is why I am suspicious (and pissed).
Granted, I could be wrong at this point, but enough evidence seems to support it.
Either way, MHM's business practices are less than desirable.
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Bump,
I vote to pull these two vendors from the "approved cannabis list"
Too much smoke, there must be a fire. Plus I was never impressed with TT"s service, or quality.
I hand over input to other senior members.?
The vendor has a right to defend then self.
CapitalG,
Very well researched, and executed.
I can't refute the facts.
Guys this is how you correctly trash a vendor.
Not with emotion, threats, and swearing.
Nice Job.
This thread is added to both vendors in my FAQ
Uniwiz
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Everyone: Please read the update at the bottom of the Original Post. The order has finally arrived.
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CapitalG,
It is good you got your product a month late.
At least the vendor in question will remain on SR.
Should this vendor remain on the "approved" list?
Vendors that want to play around with customers shouldn't be on this list.
I think you have made a good case for pulling the vendor.
I know you want 50% refund, but I want to protect our community.
What say you all?
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FWIW I bought 1/2 oz. of Blueberry/Northern Lights hybrid from TimeTraveler. Maybe I was just lucky (or not selectively scammed) but it shipped in 2 days and I received it 5 days later. Overall, not bad and, while I'm no expert on strains (nor did I weigh it on a scale), the weight seemed right and it certainly smelled of blueberries.
On the other hand, he/she doesn't seem to have been around for a few days so maybe he/she's gone.
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There is nothing anyone should want so badly as to order from TT/MHM. He is a jerk, a thief, and a liar.
He showed up right after Peepscallmedrugbuyer imploded. Comparing their "meth," I bet TT was his second persona here.
The free-market model here has many attractions in theory but one real-time failure is that without regulation or accountability, people like that infected pus-ooze merely re-register under new names and are not found out until a fresh round of victims is scammed.
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I have had one successful order from Milehighmedicine. Unfortunately, 8 days ago I put in another order. It got marked in transit immediately and still hasn't arrived (although the mail has not been delivered today yet). After reading this, I question my judgment in making another order, although I did get my first fast enough. The vendor had awesome packaging too. There was enough bad reviews for me to avoid Time Traveler, but I did not realize at the time that they were possibly the same person. The one nice part is the wide variety they sell (assuming it is what they say it is, I'm not qualified to answer that, but what I got works well nonetheless, good enough that I ordered more).
Based on reading this, I agree they should be on the bad vendor list for now, at least until they clean up their act. I don't think vendors should be allowed to mark items as in transit prior to actually shipping them, hell, it probably makes it hard to know who you have shipped and who you have not. Perhaps that is part of the problem. It might not be malicious, it might just be a lack of organization (I have witnessed enough incompetence in my life to give them the benefit of the doubt here, not that makes me feel good about the situation).
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>:(
I also ordered from Time Traveler. At the time, I had no clue of another seller's account being linked. I went by the reviews, and looked up the threads here....which I would like to point out that if you put 'time traveler' in the search bar, not much comes up, and if you put 'timetraveler' without the space,more comes up, but mostly good. I only saw one bad review until this particular thread.
I posted my worries on a couple other threads that no one responded to,so I started feeling like maybe I was jumping the gun on my suspicions, until I found this thread today. I would also like to point out that if you use initials, it makes it harder to define a seller on the thread through the search bar. I don't think many people are using initials in the search bar, but maybe it's just me who looks things up by name.
I ordered on the 21st, now 9 days out. Seller says they despise PM's, and probably won't respond, as they don't "hand hold". Though, if my package doesn't arrive today, I WILL be sending a PM. Seller's page makes it appear as though you wouldn't NEED nor want to PM them. Order was marked "in transit" within 20 minutes, and assuming seller is in CO, as stated in other threads, then it should have been here on the 23rd. Even if shipped Media mail!!! THIS is what worries me most. I sell on eBay, and I sent a package to upstate NY on the 21st, using 1st class, and it arrived on the 24th. So, for my package from Time Traveler not showing up in this time frame brings on the SKETCH.
Seller may also say package was sent but intercepted, as I opted to use initials as the name, but this was mentioned to seller, that I have been buying/selling on eBay since 1999, and being in a small,extremely isolated town (next closest town is 110 miles, seriously!!) that it wouldn't be deemed as "different", "sketchy", or anything like that, as my very small post office, with whom I am familiar with ALL employees,would not see anything wrong with the name on the package. I have been sending and receiving packages under those initials for 13 years,so I won't accept the excuse of "should have used your real name", as it basically IS my real name,only initialized. I have sent/received under that name thousands of packages over the years, with 100% success rate.
This was my very 1st order, and I am going to be quite pissed off if it doesn't show, or if it's fake weed, as I read elsewhere. I didn't finalize early,and if I get ripped,I expect a 100% refund. Sure, we all assume the risk of buying/selling drugs online, but if a vendor is on the "trusted vendor" list, and not on the "scammer list", then I think the buyer should be given 100% money back. I also hope to update this with a "I got my weed! And it kicks ass!" Mail should be here within the hour.
***UPDATE*** Day 9, and still no package.
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SuperDimitri: I also had trouble finding information on MileHighMedicine, but I made sure to search for MHM as well as the actual username. In the future, perhaps this would be a good practice!
Vonovatan: I made a successful first purchase through MHM as well, which led me to believe they could be trusted. I suspect that they are filling and shipping smaller orders as soon as possible in order to make happy customers and build faith. Then, when the happy customer spends more and buys a larger quantity, MHM (and possibly TT) go out of their way to delay or screw the customer over if possible. If you finalize early, you don't get anything at all. If you don't report the product, you don't get shit. If you report and complain, then they will finally ship the product (because they have to) and give no refund. (They also make it exact weight, whereas many vendors will make packages slightly overweight for customer satisfaction.) It just seems fishy to me.
As for the approved vendors list... I would highly advise removing them. They obviously have extremely shady business practices, which will inevitably end up screwing over new buyers who don't know what they're doing. No newbie should ever have to deal with this garbage.
Scam or not, I'm never buying from MHM again. With so many vendors available, selling so many products, there's simply no reason to waste my time with them.
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Yes, I suppose. But it seems this vendor already has plenty of names!
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I also ordered from Time Traveler. At the time, I had no clue of another seller's account being linked. I went by the reviews, and looked up the threads here....which I would like to point out that if you put 'time traveler' in the search bar, not much comes up, and if you put 'timetraveler' without the space,more comes up, but mostly good. I only saw one bad review until this particular thread.
I posted my worries on a couple other threads that no one responded to,so I started feeling like maybe I was jumping the gun on my suspicions, until I found this thread today. I would also like to point out that if you use initials, it makes it harder to define a seller on the thread through the search bar. I don't think many people are using initials in the search bar, but maybe it's just me who looks things up by name.
I ordered on the 21st, now 9 days out. Seller says they despise PM's, and probably won't respond, as they don't "hand hold". Though, if my package doesn't arrive today, I WILL be sending a PM. Seller's page makes it appear as though you wouldn't NEED nor want to PM them. Order was marked "in transit" within 20 minutes, and assuming seller is in CO, as stated in other threads, then it should have been here on the 23rd. Even if shipped Media mail!!! THIS is what worries me most. I sell on eBay, and I sent a package to upstate NY on the 21st, using 1st class, and it arrived on the 24th. So, for my package from Time Traveler not showing up in this time frame brings on the SKETCH.
Seller may also say package was sent but intercepted, as I opted to use initials as the name, but this was mentioned to seller, that I have been buying/selling on eBay since 1999, and being in a small,extremely isolated town (next closest town is 110 miles, seriously!!) that it wouldn't be deemed as "different", "sketchy", or anything like that, as my very small post office, with whom I am familiar with ALL employees,would not see anything wrong with the name on the package. I have been sending and receiving packages under those initials for 13 years,so I won't accept the excuse of "should have used your real name", as it basically IS my real name,only initialized. I have sent/received under that name thousands of packages over the years, with 100% success rate.
This was my very 1st order, and I am going to be quite pissed off if it doesn't show, or if it's fake weed, as I read elsewhere. I didn't finalize early,and if I get ripped,I expect a 100% refund. Sure, we all assume the risk of buying/selling drugs online, but if a vendor is on the "trusted vendor" list, and not on the "scammer list", then I think the buyer should be given 100% money back. I also hope to update this with a "I got my weed! And it kicks ass!" Mail should be here within the hour.
***UPDATE*** Day 9, and still no package.
This is part of the problem.
TT WILL deliver the goods, I am sure of it.
Problem is he marks it "in transit" when it's packed.
If you read his review page http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=1204.120 there are plenty of complaints.
Why? He fully made you aware in his info page how he ships, and what he thinks.
http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/index.php/silkroad/user/33442
I was never very impressed with quality or service, but others were.
There was way too much drama on the LTTM scene, and the last few negative posts on TT went over the edge.
It appears however, Out of Escort, large buyers were bitten.
They never came back to say TT made good.
While we can't support those transactions, they still mean a bond of trust is broken.
I'll support both buyer, and/or vendor, and CapitalG did a nice job.
Lesson to be learned, I think.
I'm going to hold off because important members are on vacation right now, and I value their opinion as well.
SR has no reason not to be the best place in the world to buy a variety of cannabis products.
Without the drama, and bullshit.
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I also ordered from Time Traveler. At the time, I had no clue of another seller's account being linked. I went by the reviews, and looked up the threads here....which I would like to point out that if you put 'time traveler' in the search bar, not much comes up, and if you put 'timetraveler' without the space,more comes up, but mostly good. I only saw one bad review until this particular thread.
I posted my worries on a couple other threads that no one responded to,so I started feeling like maybe I was jumping the gun on my suspicions, until I found this thread today. I would also like to point out that if you use initials, it makes it harder to define a seller on the thread through the search bar. I don't think many people are using initials in the search bar, but maybe it's just me who looks things up by name.
I ordered on the 21st, now 9 days out. Seller says they despise PM's, and probably won't respond, as they don't "hand hold". Though, if my package doesn't arrive today, I WILL be sending a PM. Seller's page makes it appear as though you wouldn't NEED nor want to PM them. Order was marked "in transit" within 20 minutes, and assuming seller is in CO, as stated in other threads, then it should have been here on the 23rd. Even if shipped Media mail!!! THIS is what worries me most. I sell on eBay, and I sent a package to upstate NY on the 21st, using 1st class, and it arrived on the 24th. So, for my package from Time Traveler not showing up in this time frame brings on the SKETCH.
Seller may also say package was sent but intercepted, as I opted to use initials as the name, but this was mentioned to seller, that I have been buying/selling on eBay since 1999, and being in a small,extremely isolated town (next closest town is 110 miles, seriously!!) that it wouldn't be deemed as "different", "sketchy", or anything like that, as my very small post office, with whom I am familiar with ALL employees,would not see anything wrong with the name on the package. I have been sending and receiving packages under those initials for 13 years,so I won't accept the excuse of "should have used your real name", as it basically IS my real name,only initialized. I have sent/received under that name thousands of packages over the years, with 100% success rate.
This was my very 1st order, and I am going to be quite pissed off if it doesn't show, or if it's fake weed, as I read elsewhere. I didn't finalize early,and if I get ripped,I expect a 100% refund. Sure, we all assume the risk of buying/selling drugs online, but if a vendor is on the "trusted vendor" list, and not on the "scammer list", then I think the buyer should be given 100% money back. I also hope to update this with a "I got my weed! And it kicks ass!" Mail should be here within the hour.
***UPDATE*** Day 9, and still no package.
This is part of the problem.
TT WILL deliver the goods, I am sure of it.
Problem is he marks it "in transit" when it's packed.
If you read his review page http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=1204.120 there are plenty of complaints.
Why? He fully made you aware in his info page how he ships, and what he thinks.
http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/index.php/silkroad/user/33442
I was never very impressed with quality or service, but others were.
There was way too much drama on the LTTM scene, and the last few negative posts on TT went over the edge.
It appears however, Out of Escort, large buyers were bitten.
They never came back to say TT made good.
While we can't support those transactions, they still mean a bond of trust is broken.
I'll support both buyer, and/or vendor, and CapitalG did a nice job.
Lesson to be learned, I think.
I'm going to hold off because important members are on vacation right now, and I value their opinion as well.
SR has no reason not to be the best place in the world to buy a variety of cannabis products.
Without the drama, and bullshit.
Avoiding drama & BS is my main concern in life, in general. I did read his page, and guess I assumed the 2 week wait was for international orders. 9 days and still no item is definitely NOT priority shipping. Marking it in transit before it actually is, is just bad practice, and makes your customer worry. It's also difficult to find a decent price on herb on SR, and I was sketched to do overseas for 1st purchase. Especially (chime in all you want NL, MOSt of those strains were created in USA) since USA has the best buds.
I wasn't looking for any kind of 'hand holding', but am starting to think maybe this vendor needs his/her hand held. to me, it seems pretty f'n simple, list a product, sell the product, ship the product, have a happy, and repeat customer. The investment of $$over a 2 week time period is frivolous. I could have been enjoying the benefits of SR for the last 9 days, instead of holding off any future orders, for fear of the same thing happening. I notice also that new buyers seem to get the shaft quite often. I am also not interested in buying e-books. They don't get me high ;) ya know. Buying a bunch of e-books is cooking your stats the same as having 0.00 listings to cook reviews, is it not? I could buy 30 e-books, look like a goof buyer, then make one large order, and claim it didn't show, or that it was schwag. That's not my intention at all,just showing a clear point. I'm a good buyer when I send you my BTC. You're a good seller when you ship it out. At this point, I am looking for better bud vendors, and it's looking like it's going to HAVE to cross borders. WTF is up with bud vendors in USA? I wouldn't imagine this section of our underground world would be so sketchy. I would naturally assume it would be the tweekers, wouldn't you? But when you compare the crystal meth vendors to the bud vendors, it's the opposite here on SR. Bud vendors are sketchy, and tweek dealers are straight up? WTF is up with that?????
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My product came today, it looks and smells great, I'll find out in a bit if it lives up to the look and smell, but I assume it will. As for finalizing early, I don't think I'd ever feel comfortable doing that. It sucks that you had to go through all that. I'd be mad as hell. I'm glad I got lucky this time. Part of me feels for the vendors, they do have to put up with a lot of crummy buyers. From being an online vendor of non-tangible goods, I know how bad some buyers can be. I hate paypal from this experience...but I digress. I wouldn't have the patience to put up with the crap, which is why I got out of that business. Mistakes happen, its how you address them that counts, and it sounds like they need to work on that. MHM was used for my first purchase, and they took a chance on me (did not require early finalize) and for that, I will likely continue buying in smaller quantities so long as I do not go through this. Either way, people should be warned and hopefully they can be better.
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>:(
I also ordered from Time Traveler. At the time, I had no clue of another seller's account being linked. I went by the reviews, and looked up the threads here....which I would like to point out that if you put 'time traveler' in the search bar, not much comes up, and if you put 'timetraveler' without the space,more comes up, but mostly good. I only saw one bad review until this particular thread.
I posted my worries on a couple other threads that no one responded to,so I started feeling like maybe I was jumping the gun on my suspicions, until I found this thread today. I would also like to point out that if you use initials, it makes it harder to define a seller on the thread through the search bar. I don't think many people are using initials in the search bar, but maybe it's just me who looks things up by name.
I ordered on the 21st, now 9 days out. Seller says they despise PM's, and probably won't respond, as they don't "hand hold". Though, if my package doesn't arrive today, I WILL be sending a PM. Seller's page makes it appear as though you wouldn't NEED nor want to PM them. Order was marked "in transit" within 20 minutes, and assuming seller is in CO, as stated in other threads, then it should have been here on the 23rd. Even if shipped Media mail!!! THIS is what worries me most. I sell on eBay, and I sent a package to upstate NY on the 21st, using 1st class, and it arrived on the 24th. So, for my package from Time Traveler not showing up in this time frame brings on the SKETCH.
Seller may also say package was sent but intercepted, as I opted to use initials as the name, but this was mentioned to seller, that I have been buying/selling on eBay since 1999, and being in a small,extremely isolated town (next closest town is 110 miles, seriously!!) that it wouldn't be deemed as "different", "sketchy", or anything like that, as my very small post office, with whom I am familiar with ALL employees,would not see anything wrong with the name on the package. I have been sending and receiving packages under those initials for 13 years,so I won't accept the excuse of "should have used your real name", as it basically IS my real name,only initialized. I have sent/received under that name thousands of packages over the years, with 100% success rate.
This was my very 1st order, and I am going to be quite pissed off if it doesn't show, or if it's fake weed, as I read elsewhere. I didn't finalize early,and if I get ripped,I expect a 100% refund. Sure, we all assume the risk of buying/selling drugs online, but if a vendor is on the "trusted vendor" list, and not on the "scammer list", then I think the buyer should be given 100% money back. I also hope to update this with a "I got my weed! And it kicks ass!" Mail should be here within the hour.
***UPDATE*** Day 9, and still no package.
This is part of the problem.
TT WILL deliver the goods, I am sure of it.
Problem is he marks it "in transit" when it's packed.
If you read his review page http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=1204.120 there are plenty of complaints.
Why? He fully made you aware in his info page how he ships, and what he thinks.
http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/index.php/silkroad/user/33442
I was never very impressed with quality or service, but others were.
There was way too much drama on the LTTM scene, and the last few negative posts on TT went over the edge.
It appears however, Out of Escort, large buyers were bitten.
They never came back to say TT made good.
While we can't support those transactions, they still mean a bond of trust is broken.
I'll support both buyer, and/or vendor, and CapitalG did a nice job.
Lesson to be learned, I think.
I'm going to hold off because important members are on vacation right now, and I value their opinion as well.
SR has no reason not to be the best place in the world to buy a variety of cannabis products.
Without the drama, and bullshit.
Avoiding drama & BS is my main concern in life, in general. I did read his page, and guess I assumed the 2 week wait was for international orders. 9 days and still no item is definitely NOT priority shipping. Marking it in transit before it actually is, is just bad practice, and makes your customer worry. It's also difficult to find a decent price on herb on SR, and I was sketched to do overseas for 1st purchase. Especially (chime in all you want NL, MOSt of those strains were created in USA) since USA has the best buds.
I wasn't looking for any kind of 'hand holding', but am starting to think maybe this vendor needs his/her hand held. to me, it seems pretty f'n simple, list a product, sell the product, ship the product, have a happy, and repeat customer. The investment of $$over a 2 week time period is frivolous. I could have been enjoying the benefits of SR for the last 9 days, instead of holding off any future orders, for fear of the same thing happening. I notice also that new buyers seem to get the shaft quite often. I am also not interested in buying e-books. They don't get me high ;) ya know. Buying a bunch of e-books is cooking your stats the same as having 0.00 listings to cook reviews, is it not? I could buy 30 e-books, look like a goof buyer, then make one large order, and claim it didn't show, or that it was schwag. That's not my intention at all,just showing a clear point. I'm a good buyer when I send you my BTC. You're a good seller when you ship it out. At this point, I am looking for better bud vendors, and it's looking like it's going to HAVE to cross borders. WTF is up with bud vendors in USA? I wouldn't imagine this section of our underground world would be so sketchy. I would naturally assume it would be the tweekers, wouldn't you? But when you compare the crystal meth vendors to the bud vendors, it's the opposite here on SR. Bud vendors are sketchy, and tweek dealers are straight up? WTF is up with that?????
+1
Another member making since, but if you do read his info page, you would have suspected something.
We have plenty of really good cannabis vendors, IN the USA. Yes my Canadian brothers seems to be more consistent.
Which is why I think certain vendors should be remove from the "favorite" list.
Even if you are a newbie, a simple read of that list would have given you a clue.
New users are too trusting, assume too much, and read too little.
I don't find bud vendors sketchy at all, unless they deal other things.
Then it's either in the case Paperchasing pure business done correctly.
or TT, which seems to be "when I get to it", maybe"
You want top USA weed at fair prices?
Start with;
Puffbuddy
Lexisade
Rook
Rocker
Christy Nugs
Tweetb
:Kali Products.
Paperchasing
and that's off the top of my head.
Find me a single bad post on any of these fine vendors.
So the USA does have a lot of good vendors, plenty.
Why did you start with TT and MHM,? You know why.
Look at all those strains!!!! Well guess what?
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>:(
I also ordered from Time Traveler. At the time, I had no clue of another seller's account being linked. I went by the reviews, and looked up the threads here....which I would like to point out that if you put 'time traveler' in the search bar, not much comes up, and if you put 'timetraveler' without the space,more comes up, but mostly good. I only saw one bad review until this particular thread.
I posted my worries on a couple other threads that no one responded to,so I started feeling like maybe I was jumping the gun on my suspicions, until I found this thread today. I would also like to point out that if you use initials, it makes it harder to define a seller on the thread through the search bar. I don't think many people are using initials in the search bar, but maybe it's just me who looks things up by name.
I ordered on the 21st, now 9 days out. Seller says they despise PM's, and probably won't respond, as they don't "hand hold". Though, if my package doesn't arrive today, I WILL be sending a PM. Seller's page makes it appear as though you wouldn't NEED nor want to PM them. Order was marked "in transit" within 20 minutes, and assuming seller is in CO, as stated in other threads, then it should have been here on the 23rd. Even if shipped Media mail!!! THIS is what worries me most. I sell on eBay, and I sent a package to upstate NY on the 21st, using 1st class, and it arrived on the 24th. So, for my package from Time Traveler not showing up in this time frame brings on the SKETCH.
Seller may also say package was sent but intercepted, as I opted to use initials as the name, but this was mentioned to seller, that I have been buying/selling on eBay since 1999, and being in a small,extremely isolated town (next closest town is 110 miles, seriously!!) that it wouldn't be deemed as "different", "sketchy", or anything like that, as my very small post office, with whom I am familiar with ALL employees,would not see anything wrong with the name on the package. I have been sending and receiving packages under those initials for 13 years,so I won't accept the excuse of "should have used your real name", as it basically IS my real name,only initialized. I have sent/received under that name thousands of packages over the years, with 100% success rate.
This was my very 1st order, and I am going to be quite pissed off if it doesn't show, or if it's fake weed, as I read elsewhere. I didn't finalize early,and if I get ripped,I expect a 100% refund. Sure, we all assume the risk of buying/selling drugs online, but if a vendor is on the "trusted vendor" list, and not on the "scammer list", then I think the buyer should be given 100% money back. I also hope to update this with a "I got my weed! And it kicks ass!" Mail should be here within the hour.
***UPDATE*** Day 9, and still no package.
This is part of the problem.
TT WILL deliver the goods, I am sure of it.
Problem is he marks it "in transit" when it's packed.
If you read his review page http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=1204.120 there are plenty of complaints.
Why? He fully made you aware in his info page how he ships, and what he thinks.
http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/index.php/silkroad/user/33442
I was never very impressed with quality or service, but others were.
There was way too much drama on the LTTM scene, and the last few negative posts on TT went over the edge.
It appears however, Out of Escort, large buyers were bitten.
They never came back to say TT made good.
While we can't support those transactions, they still mean a bond of trust is broken.
I'll support both buyer, and/or vendor, and CapitalG did a nice job.
Lesson to be learned, I think.
I'm going to hold off because important members are on vacation right now, and I value their opinion as well.
SR has no reason not to be the best place in the world to buy a variety of cannabis products.
Without the drama, and bullshit.
Avoiding drama & BS is my main concern in life, in general. I did read his page, and guess I assumed the 2 week wait was for international orders. 9 days and still no item is definitely NOT priority shipping. Marking it in transit before it actually is, is just bad practice, and makes your customer worry. It's also difficult to find a decent price on herb on SR, and I was sketched to do overseas for 1st purchase. Especially (chime in all you want NL, MOSt of those strains were created in USA) since USA has the best buds.
I wasn't looking for any kind of 'hand holding', but am starting to think maybe this vendor needs his/her hand held. to me, it seems pretty f'n simple, list a product, sell the product, ship the product, have a happy, and repeat customer. The investment of $$over a 2 week time period is frivolous. I could have been enjoying the benefits of SR for the last 9 days, instead of holding off any future orders, for fear of the same thing happening. I notice also that new buyers seem to get the shaft quite often. I am also not interested in buying e-books. They don't get me high ;) ya know. Buying a bunch of e-books is cooking your stats the same as having 0.00 listings to cook reviews, is it not? I could buy 30 e-books, look like a goof buyer, then make one large order, and claim it didn't show, or that it was schwag. That's not my intention at all,just showing a clear point. I'm a good buyer when I send you my BTC. You're a good seller when you ship it out. At this point, I am looking for better bud vendors, and it's looking like it's going to HAVE to cross borders. WTF is up with bud vendors in USA? I wouldn't imagine this section of our underground world would be so sketchy. I would naturally assume it would be the tweekers, wouldn't you? But when you compare the crystal meth vendors to the bud vendors, it's the opposite here on SR. Bud vendors are sketchy, and tweek dealers are straight up? WTF is up with that?????
+1
Another member making since, but if you do read his info page, you would have suspected something.
We have plenty of really good cannabis vendors, IN the USA. Yes my Canadian brothers seems to be more consistent.
Which is why I think certain vendors should be remove from the "favorite" list.
Even if you are a newbie, a simple read of that list would have given you a clue.
New users are too trusting, assume too much, and read too little.
I don't find bud vendors sketchy at all, unless they deal other things.
Then it's either in the case Paperchasing pure business done correctly.
or TT, which seems to be "when I get to it", maybe"
You want top USA weed at fair prices?
Start with;
Puffbuddy
Lexisade
Rook
Rocker
Christy Nugs
Tweetb
:Kali Products.
Paperchasing
and that's off the top of my head.
Find me a single bad post on any of these fine vendors.
So the USA does have a lot of good vendors, plenty.
Why did you start with TT and MHM,? You know why.
Look at all those strains!!!! Well guess what?
The strains were just a part of it. Price & location was a bigger part. 52.50usd for an 1/8. Whereas, the others were around 65-70usd for same amount. I am used to paying 40 locally, but there are usually only 3-4 strains floating around. I just didn't see myself paying that much. I've heard of it on the EC, but not here!
I couldn't find much on Time Traveler using the search feature. As I mentioned previously, this is the 1st thread I found that had any negative thoughts. And, I too, was impressed by G's debate skills. I'm the type to just get pissed and want to fight. This is WHY I smoke herb! It keeps me OUT of prison, ironically.
I also think when I joined, Christy was just starting, or was out.
Paperchasing had no listings.
Puff Buddy only had dirt.
And I don't recognize any of the other names, though, I will keep an eye out. I appreciate the small list. I also appreciate the small boost of confidence that TT will pull through.
It was also hollow daze time, so maybe it was a bad time to get started. And maybe I just expected too much.
On the bright side, I was not asked to finalize, and some reviews poured in today about slowness, but goodness. Hopefully Saturday is a Berry good day!
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i would recommend paperchasing for commercial weed, anarcho47 and the usual suspect for midgrades ( bud that is like 40 an eigth). for more expensive stuff i would go with anarcho, christy nugs, or marijuanaismymuse, all of them offer some amazing AAAA+ shit and for all your hash needs go to budderman and his budder :)
those are just the names of the people i have dealt with and can personally vouch for quality and consistency, and they are cool peeps
I just want to vouch for MR Grey.
He is part of my cannabis community. Well trusted :) Bad temper, tells as he sees it. (hmmmmmm)
We compete to see who has a higher tolerance to cannabis.
I often win ;)
But see you found some friends, and we will make sure you find some vendors you like.
Anyhow, yes, it's coming, Tuesday :(
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great post I like how you were so detailed. I will def avoid this vendor despite his product and quality due to his poor business practice
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i would recommend paperchasing for commercial weed, anarcho47 and the usual suspect for midgrades ( bud that is like 40 an eigth). for more expensive stuff i would go with anarcho, christy nugs, or marijuanaismymuse, all of them offer some amazing AAAA+ shit and for all your hash needs go to budderman and his budder :)
those are just the names of the people i have dealt with and can personally vouch for quality and consistency, and they are cool peeps
I just want to vouch for MR Grey.
He is part of my cannabis community. Well trusted :) Bad temper, tells as he sees it. (hmmmmmm)
We compete to see who has a higher tolerance to cannabis.
I often win ;)
But see you found some friends, and we will make sure you find some vendors you like.
Anyhow, yes, it's coming, Tuesday :(
Right on. He's actually been a ton of help for me so far, kind of a "mentor", if you will, and I am highly appreciative. And he will know it, once I get established better. He has helped me from leaping blindly off the cliff, and instead, hooked me up with a chute, and some wisdom
You have also been of help, Uniwiz, on other posts, and for vouching.
Some other people have also been helpful, and when I click on ya'lls names, I am glad to see most of ya's are established members.
Even so, I am trying to overcome the paranoia of it all. I know some prefer it, but I believe you can see a lot in a person's eyes, and body language.
As for the other vendors, I know they got some dank, but I was kinda hoping to establish eventual bigger orders, and having it on my side to turn. But I would never get more than a bone for a quad. I get friend deals, but not deal deals, ya know. I was hopin to find that on SR. But for my personal taste buds, smaller orders are not going to be out of question ;)
And actually, my 1st day, I looked up to see if anyone had perfected a tincture or something to use in my e-cig, and found ol' Budderman. Amazing, and I wish it was patentable! Can't wait to try, but again, I'm not rich! I switched to e-cig purely to save $$. Went from $2500/yr habit, to $200/yr habit. Budder was also nice enough to be the one to direct me here to the forums to learn about PGP and security.
Thanks ya'll, I'll post when I wake and check my mail. Hope it arrives, it's fucking NEW YEAR, baby! I'm going for a record 6 hits of DMT tonight!!!! 5 has been the most before I shatter the glass!!
***UPDATE*** Item arrived today. Not as advertised, but suitable. Long wait, might try a diff strain in future, if it's actually different, may even continue to order from, but with knowing there are longer arrival times.
Since I haven't seen a vendor review thread specifically for TT, I might start one.
Thanks again
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Cross reference the Cannabis FAQ, there is TT forum thread.
It's all about choices for the buyers.
The more vendors, the quality, choice, and price become competitive.
Enjoy your New Year with your new found gains.
Was the weed wet or ready to go?
hopefully we have enough buyers to support all the new incoming vendors.
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I bought shrooms from him/her twice. Both times I got prompt delivery and good product.
I'm curious to know (if you don't mind sharing) the quantities you ordered. From what I've seen of various reports, the smaller shipments are completed with little fuss, but as soon as you make a bigger shipment (1oz or higher) MHM gives you the run around.
First order was 3.5 g. Second order was an ounce. The only thing I don't like is having to sign for the package. OTOH I would think that would make it unnecessary to finalize early.
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I bought shrooms from him/her twice. Both times I got prompt delivery and good product.
I'm curious to know (if you don't mind sharing) the quantities you ordered. From what I've seen of various reports, the smaller shipments are completed with little fuss, but as soon as you make a bigger shipment (1oz or higher) MHM gives you the run around.
First order was 3.5 g. Second order was an ounce. The only thing I don't like is having to sign for the package. OTOH I would think that would make it unnecessary to finalize early.
I never had to sign for my packages... I find that suspicious. Play it safe, friend.
As for the rest: I never buy without reading someone's profile first, to fully understand their practices. Nowhere on MHM's page did it say "we mark 'in transit' when it's packed, then ship it two weeks later." The general assumption is that when it says "in transit," it's in transit.
I'm not fussing about the quality of MHM's product -- to be honest, I still haven't tried any of his stuff. All of my friends bought it off me before I had a chance. And their reviews of the mushrooms were always good.
The only thing I have a complaint about is the shady business practices. Which is really a shame... MHM has a ton of really delicious-sounding weed strains, and I'd love to try them all! But with her track record... Well, I can't justify the hassle. So I'll be buying from other vendors.
I can personally vouch for Paperchasing and Got2LuvFreeMarket. My first purchase was through G2L, and he was friendly and professional and quick. No complaints whatsoever. After that I purchased from Paperchasing, and I can say that his products, service, and value cannot be beat. You can't go wrong with these guys.
I appreciate everyone's input here, and I hope that both vendors and buyers alike can learn something from this thread. If you're a vendor, respect your buyers and your business will skyrocket. If you're a buyer, don't finalize early unless you've had a few good purchases with that vendor already. All of this info is already in the buyer/seller FAQ.
Much love, everyone. I hope that you all have a fantastic new year!
And yes, I'll keep updating this thread as things progress on the dispute.
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New update -- The admins had to step in and extend the resolution deadline because MHM has been completely ignoring the entire situation. It has now been 40 days since I purchased the product, and no resolution has been reached. Completely unacceptable.
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UPDATE: MileHighMedicine finally updated the resolution (once again, after the expiration date had been extended). She refused to issue a refund. See the original post for details. I've appealed to the Administrators to step in and force the issue. If they feel a refund is fair, then a refund should be forced. If they feel MHM has done the right thing, then they can deny the refund and drop the entire issue. It's up to them.
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UPDATE: MileHighMedicine finally updated the resolution (once again, after the expiration date had been extended). She refused to issue a refund. See the original post for details. I've appealed to the Administrators to step in and force the issue. If they feel a refund is fair, then a refund should be forced. If they feel MHM has done the right thing, then they can deny the refund and drop the entire issue. It's up to them.
You re going to far with this case. You already stated and elaborated your case (in the public forum). Its nobody concern of your refund. Drop it already and be happy you got drugs online!
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I've contemplated buying bulk from either TimeTraveler or MHM but I've gotten very sketchy feelings about it. All of the things I have come across, peoples reviews, person investigations of my own to find good bud prices, they come off as highly shady
Odd excuses as to why regular shipping can take up to 9-15 days out of colorado due to the mail points? One of them explained it to me and why express was better, but the more they explained, the more the story seemed to be a front. Why on earth would 1 state in the US take up to 9-15 days to get mail out of the state? I'm not one to go and call a vendor a liar, but that story seemed very out of the ordinary.
Not to mention the RIDICULOUS amount of strains they have. This struck me as odd. Of course colorado is a medical state, whether they're from there or not is questionable.... They do seem to have different pictures of each strain, but it's not hard to change the lighting and look, and made 1 strain look like 10 others. I can do this in photoshop easy. Maybe they do have legit bud pictures, but I have also seem NUMEROUS reports of people NOT receiving the bud they ordered, or receiving some below-par strain that is no where near medical quality.
Not to mention, they miss-spelled the Durban Poison strain, as Durbon. Seriously, who the hell makes this kind of mistake who knows what they're actually handling?
A friend of mine ordered bud from time traveler a few months back, a few ounces, it was not completely dry and seemed easily susceptible to mold due to the moisture level.
I asked TT about this and he gave me a LONG reason(like 10 paragraphs), as to why that wasn't true, and that like many people my friend may have mistaken the bud for simply being very sticky and dank. "Gooey". Not to mention, people who are lying feel extra need to back up there lie, which would make sense as to why he goes on for TEN paragraphs. He could have addressed my 1 sentence question about his bud in less than a paragraph, but he felt the need to go on and on and on, as if he doesn't believe the lie himself and needs to keep convincing himself as he's typing. Just a little thing I learned in my psychology class. He goes on to tell me how his bud is top medical quality and how they would never allow bud that could potentially mold or not fully been dried in a dispensary.
He gave me all these reasons as to 'why' each of my observations were wrong, and how my friend must have just been mistaken. I did not tell TT that I SMOKED the bud, and saw the whole batch, and how it was hard to burn with a normal lighter. Only thing I told him was that my friend had comments about his bud and I was wondering what TT had to say about it.
Someone who is doing nothing wrong and providing the service that they are 'offering' should not feel such a need to 'defend' themselves with to a simple question.
There's just too many sketchy things between the MHM and TT. While their selection looks amazing, and I'm sure they get nice bud at times, I feel what they are saying on their profile is a front for something not as great as what they make it out to be. I have my doubts that they are even in colorado. Not to mention, almost all their strain profiles are seemingly copied and pasted, aside from changing the qualities.
Now, with all this being said, I can bet one of them will come on here and try to back up and defend every point I have made here - something a liar will try. A legit person will provide the service they promise and not come up with a bunch of excuses or reasons as to why the customer is wrong.
On a side note.
Some of you may know spacequeen, she is TimeTraveler I believe. When I first got on SR, i requested bulk information from both of them, and they both, copied and pasted, sent me the same information, exact same prices, for QPs, HPs, LBs. Word for word multiple paragraphs on how they do business etc. Spacequeen seemed to drop off the map at some point to, just throwing it out there. Dead giveaway they are the same person, unless they got a template on some forum of "how to tell people your bulk budprices on the silk road" Lmao.
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+1 Tommyhawk,
The story unfolds.
And since "spacequeen" decide to rip me off,.
Also, Toomyhawk I bought from TT, with the same results.
Well my vendors defend your worthless selves cause, now I'm pissed.
Do NOT Buy from these vendors.
I don't care how many strains, it's all BULLSHIT.
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My experience buying from MHM is bellow:
I ordered from MHM back in December on a Thursday night. The package arrived the following Monday; which is consistent with some of my other orders from CO. I did not pay for any kind of express or overnight shipping.
This was the first time I'd ordered any product, besides a pharmaceutical, where the picture in the listing looked exactly like what I received in the mail. The item listed was a sativa by the name of Durban Poison. It was definitely a pure sativa and it was neither too moist nor too dry. Also, Ordered an ounce (28g) and the sent over 30.
Overall the experience was great and the bud was as advertise. I may order from MHM again, but you guys have me a little spooked now.
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UPDATE: MileHighMedicine finally updated the resolution (once again, after the expiration date had been extended). She refused to issue a refund. See the original post for details. I've appealed to the Administrators to step in and force the issue. If they feel a refund is fair, then a refund should be forced. If they feel MHM has done the right thing, then they can deny the refund and drop the entire issue. It's up to them.
You re going to far with this case. You already stated and elaborated your case (in the public forum). Its nobody concern of your refund. Drop it already and be happy you got drugs online!
I completely understand your sentiments on this case, and by all means, if you feel it's excessive, you don't have to keep reading.
The reasons why I'm continuing to document everything that happens are thus:
1. I want any and all prospective customers to see exactly what might be in store for them if they shop from MHM, including the hassle of the resolution process.
2. I want there to be a public record of the debacle, so that I can reference it in the future.
3. I want there to be transparency, from beginning to end, so that nobody can claim that I'm a scammer trying to defame a legitimate vendor. My reputation as a buyer is at stake, just as MHM's reputation as a vendor is at stake. I want to ensure that any vendors considering whether to sell to me or not can trust that I am fair and legitimate, and that I'm not going to cause a headache.
My experience buying from MHM is bellow:
I ordered from MHM back in December on a Thursday night. The package arrived the following Monday; which is consistent with some of my other orders from CO. I did not pay for any kind of express or overnight shipping.
This was the first time I'd ordered any product, besides a pharmaceutical, where the picture in the listing looked exactly like what I received in the mail. The item listed was a sativa by the name of Durban Poison. It was definitely a pure sativa and it was neither too moist nor too dry. Also, Ordered an ounce (28g) and the sent over 30.
Overall the experience was great and the bud was as advertise. I may order from MHM again, but you guys have me a little spooked now.
There have been some good and some bad reviews for MHM and TT. I've seen both sides, and I sometimes wonder how many of the good reviews are actually legit (rather than being fabrications posted by fake accounts). In any case, it seems that, now and then, MHM or TT will ship within a reasonable time period and everything will seem okay (with the possible concern of whether they're shipping the right strains or not). But when they have problems (which they seem to have quite frequently) the reports are some of the worst I've ever seen.
Basically, when they're good, they're just okay, but when they're bad, they're fucking terrible.
All-in-all, there's no reason to deal with the hassle IMHO. Find a good vendor and stick by them.
On another note, I recently made a purchase through tweetb, and it arrived quickly and in fantastic condition. Smells wonderful, and tastes fantastic. I've added them to my personal favorites list. :-)
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Dude you need to be a poster child on how to drive the point home.
TT and MHM are off the "preferred" list.
Everything you have stated is a fact, period.
We have plenty of much better vendor's
Shut out to Tweetb!!!!
He has kush locked up.
Nice job, my compliments, CapitalG ;)
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ive also had issues with mhm... they didnt ship my order until a couple weeks after it was marked "in transit." when i finally did receive my order, it was for the wrong amount. i got half of what i was supposed to. the issue is currently in resolution, and has been overdue for review for about a day. hopefully i just get a 50% refund and dont have to deal with mhm ever again...
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Thanks CapitolG, this thread is really informative & great idea.
Agree 100% with everything already said re: MHM.
Had 1 transaction in past, and wouldn't do again....although another vendor needs to find some ISS, bc that strain is balls deep amazing.
Just throwing my .02 in here.
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I ordered and received an eighth of blue goo from milehighmedicine. I looked it up and the pics match.
The wait time was 2-3 days.
The packing was super professional.
The product is really nice, one I would break out at a party of lifelong smokers, people who appreciate the taste of their smoke as much as the high.
It was a small order and went perfectly.
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Hi Everyone,
I think there is another very good reason to remove MHM from the vendor list entirely: that name, Mile High Medicine, is used by a legitimate medical marijuana pharmacy in Colorado. I'm sorry, I don't remember the city and I'm too busy right now to go searching it out. But I guarantee you there is a real, legitimate business named the exact same thing in Colorado.
If they were to find out that someone was operating on an illicit drug forum board using their company name, they might well start legal proceedings and this would bring a laser light of unwelcome attention onto SR the marketplace and SR the man himself.
I think MHM should be gotten rid of, based on reading the first 20 posts of this thread (I didn't have time to read all the rest) but *at a minimum* should be REQUIRED to change their name to avoid bringing a legal action onto SR.
Just one man's opinion.
thanks,
Alex
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The reason MHM and TT put the item 'in trasit' before shipping is so that they can bypass SR's 72 hour processing time (which is fair enough, it is there for a reason.) so users can't cancel their orders because it was taking too long.
And just on that fact, I believe they are abusing the system that was put in place to ensure we receive our packages in a timely manner. If you can't get a product packaged and shipped within 3 days, you should just give up vending. Or inform users, and allow them to cancel their order if it is taking too long (as it should be).
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Hi Everyone,
I think there is another very good reason to remove MHM from the vendor list entirely: that name, Mile High Medicine, is used by a legitimate medical marijuana pharmacy in Colorado. I'm sorry, I don't remember the city and I'm too busy right now to go searching it out. But I guarantee you there is a real, legitimate business named the exact same thing in Colorado.
If they were to find out that someone was operating on an illicit drug forum board using their company name, they might well start legal proceedings and this would bring a laser light of unwelcome attention onto SR the marketplace and SR the man himself.
I think MHM should be gotten rid of, based on reading the first 20 posts of this thread (I didn't have time to read all the rest) but *at a minimum* should be REQUIRED to change their name to avoid bringing a legal action onto SR.
Just one man's opinion.
thanks,
Alex
THAT really isn't a good reason to take them off the list. I can tell you that Denver, CoSprgs, Durango, Grand Junction, Greeley, and probably even MORE towns ALL have that as their name, and the 4 I know of aren't related in any way, shape, or form. Until one of those dispensaries Trademarks & Copyrights the name, it isn't bad business practice. But, seeing as how it's still not allowed under Federal Law (dispensaries) I highly doubt any of them could ever TM or CR their name! I also bet if you looked up the ACTUAL business names, it would be "blah blah blah DBA MHM."
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The admins finally resolved the issue, granting me a 20% refund, which I feel is fair enough. They sent MHM and myself the following message:
Dear CapitalG and milehighmedicine,
I am sorry you could not come to a resolution. We have settled on a refund of 20%. I hope this is agreeable for you both.
Because the item did arrive eventually, a 50/50 split would not be fair. However, mhm, you absolutely must not click confirm shipment until the item is actually in the mail stream. 20% is fair compensation for the delay and uncertainty your actions caused CapitalG.
If you have any questions or concerns, please do not hesitate to reply to this message.
Best regards,
Silk Road staff
I would like to thank the SR staff for being fair and just in this matter.
I ordered and received an eighth of blue goo from milehighmedicine. I looked it up and the pics match.
The wait time was 2-3 days.
The packing was super professional.
The product is really nice, one I would break out at a party of lifelong smokers, people who appreciate the taste of their smoke as much as the high.
It was a small order and went perfectly.
As stated previously, MHM's Modus Operandi seems to be that they ship tiny orders quickly to build trust, then screw you over when you try to order in bulk. I'm glad you got lucky, but I highly advise you steer clear.
The reason MHM and TT put the item 'in trasit' before shipping is so that they can bypass SR's 72 hour processing time (which is fair enough, it is there for a reason.) so users can't cancel their orders because it was taking too long.
And just on that fact, I believe they are abusing the system that was put in place to ensure we receive our packages in a timely manner. If you can't get a product packaged and shipped within 3 days, you should just give up vending. Or inform users, and allow them to cancel their order if it is taking too long (as it should be).
This is EXACTLY what they are doing. By marking "in transit" immediately, they are able to spend the next 2 weeks fucking around before shipping. This makes me believe that they don't actually have any stock on-hand, but rather that they wait for orders, then contact their suppliers and purchase what was ordered, then ship it out.
This, of course, means that we (the end customer) must wait longer to get larger quantities, and that we will never really know if the strain we're getting is the real deal or if it's some knockoff that they're trying to get rid of. Hell, to be honest, MHM and TT probably don't know for sure that what they're selling is actually what they say it is. Their suppliers could be pulling the same stunt, providing them with knockoff weed and just telling them it's Durban Poison or whatever.
Tweetb's Blue Dream strain knocked me on my ass. One hit and I was blown. Paperchasing's weed is cheap and fantastic. Want dank? Buy from Tweetb. Want good weed at a great value? Paperchasing is the bee's knees.
Silk Road is the best for one reason: Freedom of Choice. You have a plethora of menu items from a variety of vendors. You never have to deal with the shady college sophomore down the street. And if one vendor seems sketchy, you've got dozens more to choose from.
Shop smart. ;-)
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CapitalG,
Could you change your title to include Timetraveler?
I am getting sick of his bogus listings of strains taking up valuable space in the listings, other better vendors could be using.
We have had enough of the games. TT.
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I agree these vendors should be on the bad vendors list. I think this is very valuable to us newbies to have a place where we can see who is actually a reliable vendor. I have been scammed once trying to purchase an oz and have not made a purchase thus far though i'm still searching for the right vendor because I don't want to waste my time purchasing less than an oz. I really would like to purchase bulk but have yet to find a suitable vendor.../
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I have only ordered from him again a few times, I always got my orders, but each time took longer. With my last order, I had given a second address to have something sent somewhere else and to have some sent to me. Instead of actually looking at the address, he assumes that they're both going to the same place! So my order was sitting where my other order went and so I had to make a 2 hour trip, just for a 1/4oz of pot!
Simple mistake, but VERY unprofessional, I'm lucky my other order wasn't in another state, because then I'd probably have to hear the "well it got delivered, deal with it, its not my fault that I assumed they were both going to the same place,...oh yeah, no partial refund for your troubles *troll face*"
It really is a shame because he does deliver good weed for a fair price, but the trouble and time that you have to go through just to get it is not worth it.
If he was to improve communication, business practice, and shipping times, he could easily get back onto everyones good side, because I'm sure everyone agrees, the bud and the prices aren't bad.
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Well time is money if you're like me who deal also.
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CapitalG, I never order bulk so I guess its ok. 8)
I just ordered a combo offer of 1/8th of sweet island skunk and 1/8th of hindu kush. Lets see how that turns out.
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@ everyone
I agree MHM and TT take up valuable space.
- ColdFrost
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Are TT's strains ALL bogus? I successfully ordered a 1/2 oz. of Blueberry/Northern Lights and it sure seemed real and fragrant. He certainly doesn't communicate at all. I've sent him 2 PMs for some general info but never heard back. I just placed another order with TT for a 1/4 and an 1/8th so we'll see what happens and how long it takes. I'll report back here after I've received it.
The lure of TT's listings is the variety and the price. There are vendors charging $24. a gram! That's ridiculous.
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UPDATE: I did receive my 2nd order from TimeTraveler yesterday (1/4 oz. White Berry, 1/8th oz. Ginger Haze - whatever that is) and it took 14 days from order until delivery, including 4 days to ship. They are very different from each other so there is no way they are the same strain. The Ginger Haze smells wonderful, kind of sweet, and the White Berry has a really interesting aroma which I can't quite define. These are not "mids" (the Berry kicks butt) but there is no way to know what the source is - if they're self-grown or dispensary rejects or what. The weight was spot on and the packaging was flawless.
So, after 2 successful transactions with TT, I would most likely do biz with him/her again, although this thread does make me nervous and not if I needed anything quickly.
What I don't understand is why a vendor would be so customer-unfriendly. I sent 2 PMs for general info and never got a response. And I really wish that TT and MHM would just list their separate strains and not break it down by weight also. That page hogging doesn't endear them to anyone.
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Are TT's strains ALL bogus? I successfully ordered a 1/2 oz. of Blueberry/Northern Lights and it sure seemed real and fragrant. He certainly doesn't communicate at all. I've sent him 2 PMs for some general info but never heard back. I just placed another order with TT for a 1/4 and an 1/8th so we'll see what happens and how long it takes. I'll report back here after I've received it.
The lure of TT's listings is the variety and the price. There are vendors charging $24. a gram! That's ridiculous.
And there are vendors charging $240 an ounce...
Many suspect that TT/MHM is either selling one big bag as different strains (multiple people have ordered different strains and gotten identical, unlabeled bags of bud), or if he is selling multiple strains, he's selling stuff that was rejected by the dispensaries.
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a brief summary of my experience with MHM/TT. ordered the Lemon Skunk from TT, received it about 2 weeks after ordering it. bud wasn't bad, but it wasn't worth waiting 2 weeks for!
saw MHM's listing and ordered up an 1/8 of White Rhino, arrived 3-4 days later...heavy sack. the packing however led me to believe it may have been the TT under a different account. next MHM order, it was for an 1/8 L.A. Confidential & 1/8 of White Widow. received the order about 3-4 days later. this time order only had 1 item in it. it was the L.A., but looked to weigh heavy, so I blew it off for a minute as MHM may have sent me a 1/4 instead of my 2x 1/8's ordered. no problem. then my gut told me to weigh the L.A. it turned out to be a heavy 1/8. no harm there, but still want my White Widow or a refund. sent MHM a message on over. never did hear back though. at that point I just wrote it off as this guy got me and to NEVER order from again.
so about 2 weeks go by, I get a package. I'm like what the??? :o open it up, it's my 2x 1/8's of L.A. and White Widow!!! MHM had sent me another 1/8 of L.A. for the trouble! I was blown away!!! :D
now, there is a lot of "controversy" surrounding MHM/TT... my suggestion to them would be streamline your listings and promptly fill your customers orders in a timely manner!
will I order from these entities again? answer is "maybe". the prices are reasonable and the bud isn't bad, but the fact is there are other GREAT vendors on the Road too choose from. so IMO, MHM/TT would NOT be my #1 pick.
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a brief summary of my experience with MHM/TT. ordered the Lemon Skunk from TT, received it about 2 weeks after ordering it. bud wasn't bad, but it wasn't worth waiting 2 weeks for!
saw MHM's listing and ordered up an 1/8 of White Rhino, arrived 3-4 days later...heavy sack. the packing however led me to believe it may have been the TT under a different account. next MHM order, it was for an 1/8 L.A. Confidential & 1/8 of White Widow. received the order about 3-4 days later. this time order only had 1 item in it. it was the L.A., but looked to weigh heavy, so I blew it off for a minute as MHM may have sent me a 1/4 instead of my 2x 1/8's ordered. no problem. then my gut told me to weigh the L.A. it turned out to be a heavy 1/8. no harm there, but still want my White Widow or a refund. sent MHM a message on over. never did hear back though. at that point I just wrote it off as this guy got me and to NEVER order from again.
so about 2 weeks go by, I get a package. I'm like what the??? :o open it up, it's my 2x 1/8's of L.A. and White Widow!!! MHM had sent me another 1/8 of L.A. for the trouble! I was blown away!!! :D
now, there is a lot of "controversy" surrounding MHM/TT... my suggestion to them would be streamline your listings and promptly fill your customers orders in a timely manner!
will I order from these entities again? answer is "maybe". the prices are reasonable and the bud isn't bad, but the fact is there are other GREAT vendors on the Road too choose from. so IMO, MHM/TT would NOT be my #1 pick.
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Hi, just curious, were there actually different strains? Were any of them what they claimed to be? When I ordered, I got some decent, uncured bud, def not Blueberry. But...their prices are decent, compared to the greed I have encountered. I might try em again (TT) {MHM, all the same, right?} Were your strains properly cured? No 'green' smell? No harsh smoke? they were my 1st SR experience, and it took them a LONG time, but if there are some decent, trich covered nugs....
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So did you end up receiving your product...?
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So did you end up receiving your product...?
Who, me? I did. Here's my review: http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=2837.msg71893#msg71893
Did you get an account, yet? Never saw any replies to yuor sample thread in my notices.
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Hi, just curious, were there actually different strains? Were any of them what they claimed to be? When I ordered, I got some decent, uncured bud, def not Blueberry. But...their prices are decent, compared to the greed I have encountered. I might try em again (TT) {MHM, all the same, right?} Were your strains properly cured? No 'green' smell? No harsh smoke? they were my 1st SR experience, and it took them a LONG time, but if there are some decent, trich covered nugs....
yes, all were different and all legit, with the exception of the White Widow which I really had my doubts. all strains tried from MHM/TT had that "homegrown" feel to 'em.
my fav of the 3 though was the White Rhino. :D
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Wow i wish i Would of read this before I ordered 3 OZ..... Hopefully MHM comes through because it would really suck waste my time trying to get my money back..
Best Regards
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I ordered 1/2 from MHM, expecting it here this week sometime. I could sense that he isnt a very social or customer orietned vendor, and finalized early to make things smooth for him. People got me worried now, I ordered a very specific strain for a reason. I did notice that all his pictures look like the same product, I assumed its just the same grower.Will report back on the weekend.
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I ordered 1/2 from MHM, expecting it here this week sometime. I could sense that he isnt a very social or customer orietned vendor, and finalized early to make things smooth for him.
....don't mean to sound like a bitch, but FE'ing early to make things more smooth for vendor such as him just compounds the problem....there's no real reason for TT/MHM to amend his kinda crappy business practices if people finalize early for no real reason...so things will stay crappy.
Only reason you should finalize early is A) 1st transaction,etc or B) you have had multiple orders from vendor and he's shown he will go above and beyond as a seller (which is not TT's MO) so you want to reciprocate as a buyer
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I figured these guys were scammers because they are always taking up page after page with their products.
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Just got my combo quarter of island sweet skunk (not very skunky smell wise) and kush (gorgeous, pretty bud).
Decent bud, better than the street, great for joints. Med quality? Not really but I never had med quality until I found sr anyway so I don't mind. Packaging was good, both eighths weighed spot on. The high was decent but didn't last long...about an hour. But I can say this, I was extremely physically sore when I went to bed last night, and I slept straight through the night and have zero pain this morning and woke up...um...in the mood (I'm old so this rocked)! This is why I buy weed so it worked great for me.
Took about 10 days, no biggie for me. I don't need instant gratification, but then again I have a small stash.
I've ordered three strains from milehighmedicine...blue goo, and these two. the kush looks kind of like the goo but the high is different. Cured nicely, not dry not moldy. Very pretty buds.
If I was to place another order from SR I guess I would go with Rook or Tweetb or Marijuanaismymuse or Arnarch07. Their product seems top notch but the high is kind of intense. Its nice to have a medium grade hanging around cause I don't always wanna be blotto'd.
However my ordering days are finished for now. I have all I need for a couple of years lol and I never ever buy in bulk, and I've got some seeds now. I've tried a lot of vendors (search for Dobbs here and you will see the reviews). But again, all I am ever really looking for is good bud, good medicine. Love you all and so long!
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There was a milehigh meds on a differenct forum (hfc) that was reported selective scammer. They carried weed and hash. May be different person, but it sounds about right.
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I agree with u on that wiz these guys take up waay too much space on the menu...
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i had problems with both sellers too. i'll never do business with either one again.
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I ordered 1/2 from MHM, expecting it here this week sometime. I could sense that he isnt a very social or customer orietned vendor, and finalized early to make things smooth for him.
....don't mean to sound like a bitch, but FE'ing early to make things more smooth for vendor such as him just compounds the problem....there's no real reason for TT/MHM to amend his kinda crappy business practices if people finalize early for no real reason...so things will stay crappy.
Only reason you should finalize early is A) 1st transaction,etc or B) you have had multiple orders from vendor and he's shown he will go above and beyond as a seller (which is not TT's MO) so you want to reciprocate as a buyer
As a buyer, I NEVER finalize early on a first transaction with a new vendor. If I know someone and trust them, only then will I consider finalizing early. (So far, I've never finalized early.)
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MHM's ISS strain was not up to par for quality to me. It was so wet i could barely roll a j with it and it looked nothing like the picture just a fresh dark green bud look without too many crystals on it. Didnt have too much of a smell either. Want to try some of the other strains that look good in the pics but not if its the same quality as it was last time I got it which Im pretty sure it is so idk...wouldnt reccommend
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Well after about a dozen transactions on SR I finally had one go south.
I ordered a 1/2 oz of white widow and received a 1/4. Sent a PM to MHM about the situation and will report back with any developments.. I'm hoping he/she does the right thing, but after reading this thread I'm not too optimistic.
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I ordered 1/2 from MHM, expecting it here this week sometime. I could sense that he isnt a very social or customer orietned vendor, and finalized early to make things smooth for him.
....don't mean to sound like a bitch, but FE'ing early to make things more smooth for vendor such as him just compounds the problem....there's no real reason for TT/MHM to amend his kinda crappy business practices if people finalize early for no real reason...so things will stay crappy.
Only reason you should finalize early is A) 1st transaction,etc or B) you have had multiple orders from vendor and he's shown he will go above and beyond as a seller (which is not TT's MO) so you want to reciprocate as a buyer
As a buyer, I NEVER finalize early on a first transaction with a new vendor. If I know someone and trust them, only then will I consider finalizing early. (So far, I've never finalized early.)
Sorry if it was unclear, but I meant if it was your 1st SR transaction.....not just with that vendor, but you haven't popped your SR order cherry yet.
Once you've got more than a couple transactions total on SR, NEVER finalize early without due cause (and you trust vendor as much as you would an f2f buddy).
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I finalized early because most vendors dont like new buyers, and call most of us scammers. 3 months with hundreds of transactions, I chose to finalize early for the seller, and not be called a scammer. Some sellers require up to 15 transactions for purchases,which I dont have. I made the choice to finalize early because, if you havent noticed, they ARE a top rated vendor, according to SR (I havent really figured their rating system out yet). They show as #3 Cannabis seller right now. .
As for my order, it was marked shipped the friday before a holiday weekend, I figured it wouldve actually shipped 2 weeks ago today, after MLK day, and still not here. Not sure on MHM local,but I'm guessing SoCal. Either way, mail has never taken 2 weeks from the coast.
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I finalized early because most vendors dont like new buyers, and call most of us scammers. 3 months with hundreds of transactions, I chose to finalize early for the seller, and not be called a scammer. Some sellers require up to 15 transactions for purchases,which I dont have. I made the choice to finalize early because, if you havent noticed, they ARE a top rated vendor, according to SR (I havent really figured their rating system out yet). They show as #3 Cannabis seller right now. .
As for my order, it was marked shipped the friday before a holiday weekend, I figured it wouldve actually shipped 2 weeks ago today, after MLK day, and still not here. Not sure on MHM local,but I'm guessing SoCal. Either way, mail has never taken 2 weeks from the coast.
I ordered from MHM with only like 4-5 transactions and MHM didn't request me to finalize early.
And only ordered once, but MHM absolutely marked my order 'in transit' WAY earlier than shipped....marked transit about 7-8 days before it actually shipped. I'm in US, so only took about 4 days for receipt once it was actually put in mail.
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If you finalize early with these guys they will not send your product at all. These guys have one of the worst business ethics ever and all their business relies on filling up pages with their product.
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Posted this in another thread, but it really belongs here.
Hate to bump a bunch of old threads but Mile High Medicine is still out there scamming so hopefully I can save some people some money and/or time.
Hey, having had TT / milehighmedicine attempt to scam me, and the sr admins step up and refund my money I'd like to shed some light on one aspect of his operation. I know I have a low post count and only registered an account on the forums for The Name Game, But i have been a member on sr (different username) for 6+ months now and have 30+ successful transactions. Still i think you will find many more senior members that have equally negative experiences with these two sellers.
Anyways, ordered and 1/8 from tt the price was right, and I wasn't in a huge hurry, I knew he had a reputation for being slow going into it and was pretty excited my order was marked in transit the next day. 15 days later as per his profile i place the item in dispute, after 3 days, I message him on sr and tell him to stop blowing off my resolution. His response was that he wasn't ignoring me but dealing with the huge volume of messages he was getting on sr, this threw up a red flag, because his entire profile is basically about he has way more important things to do than talk to his customers. On the final day before the resolution expired, TT replied with a dc # that showed the item (which was shipped 7 days after it was marked in transit) made it to my state, but then was returned to the bogus return address. This set off another major red flag for me, every order i've made that has actually shipped (over 30) has made it to my drop point, which is in every way a legit address. Even the most sketch hand addressed envelopes always seem to get through.
I replied to the resolution saying as much and that i thought any issue with addressing the package was on the vendors end, as i have never had such issues. TT never replied, and amazingly after another week or two of extensions the admin gave me a 100% refund. I figured it was just a fluke, untill i saw another feedback with the exact same result (package made it into buyers state, but then was rejected and returned to the bogus return address.) Only this buyer, probably newer, or unaware of TT's rep released his funds to TT and still gave him a 5/5. I have never recieved a package from TT/milehighmedicine, but from those who have, Does anyone care to chime in on whether or not he used printed labels? Id reference the other feedback but TT seems to be migrating all his business over to MHM now that his spot is blown.
Anyone know if there is a way to address packages so they will go to a certain state, and then be returned?
Based on his refund policy and several other more ambiguously worded feed backs that implied no product was received I have to assume he ran this scam many times, and was sucessfull more often than not.
Would just like to remind everyone to do their research before taking the plunge, I should have known better, And tho i just had chump change tied up in escrow for a month, I'm thinking many were cheated out of 50-60 bux for the cost of him shipping an empty box. And untill I see some evidence that MHM MileHighMedicine is not TT, im going to go ahead and assume they are the same person and will be running the same scams, Im sick of all their bs listings shitting up the weed section.
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MHM, had some active listings, so i dug threw their feedback some, the following are all cut/pasted and can be verified in the vendors profile(http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/index.php/silkroad/user/74120)
my guess it that the 5/5 are a combination of the vendor actually coming threw from time to time, and allot of fake feedback from accounts made by MHM/TT based on the consistent grammer and sentence structure from a majority of the 5/5 reviews. There always seem to be just enough 5/5 to push the last not perfect review to the next page and would expect 3 or 4 to roll in tomorrow to bump the current 2/5 reviews off of there front page.
2 of 5 order 1/22. vendor conceded on 2/1 that item never sent and offered overnight ship. subsequent overnight never sent. good quality when actually shipped but vendor has customer service issues.
4 of 5 2nd order with MHM, order arrived today in accordance with seller's profile ;within 14 days of ship date;, but postmark was February while listed in transit Jan 21--Caused me some anxiety (which is what I need the weed for, besides it being awesome). 1st order arrived much faster. More problematic, I could smell the bud as I carried from mailbox, and then discovered it was pierced through from outside all the way to the bud, yikes! So got very lucky, and this could have happened when in USPS hands, but have to assume faster turn-around would have decreased the odds of such dangerous damage (hope this helps seller improve practices?). SO! Assuming the fuzz ain't waiting to bust me in a few minutes now that I've taken possession, I still give high marks for quality of product, it does look GREAT and the strong smell is of course a sign of QUALITY ;-D (notice again an order not shipping till 7 days after being marked in transit, I can't comment on quality as i never successfully received an order.
1 of 5 did not receive package and seller made little effort to resolve issue.
3 of 5 Order never arrived, though the seller provided a DCN so probably got lost in transit and I had to eat the cost. (this is the same DCN scam i reference in my first post)
5 of 5 It arrived a bit slower than I expected, however it arrived :) quality is good!
4 of 5 The shipment almost made it and was sent back and I never received it. These things happen and I just had to eat it. (same DCN scam again)
1 of 5 THIS VENDOR IS THE WORST. They marked the purchase "in transit" and didn't ship, then waited until after the dispute expired before shipping. Also refused partial refund due to fraudulent practices. STEER CLEAR! DO NOT BUY FROM MILEHIGHMEDICINE!
5 of 5 lost in mail,bummer. (same DCN scam)
4 of 5 Shipping took over a month to east coast US. Good product and good communication with seller but if shipping matters, this isn't the product to get.
1 of 5 still haven't received after 34 days, I will update feedback if I ever get it.
1 of 5 Took three weeks for package to arrive. Hard to communicate with vendor. Takes forever to respond to messages. I'm never buying from this vendor again. if you want good service order from Rocker
1 of 5 This one never arrived, I had two separate orders within minutes of each other and 1 arrived. Seller says both in same package but 1 was def not. No DCN and no refund.
1 of 5 Wet Product, Wrong Strain, SHIPPED 19 DAYS after ordering, bad communication, never ordering from him again.
And heres a good example of their fake feedbacks which i believe they write themselves these reviews were all in a row, as in finalized around the same time.
5 of 5 hash never made it but full refund, good communication and seller!
5 of 5Delivery was very fast (desipite what other people are saying). Product was as described and packages well.
5 of 5Awesome!!!!
5 of 5 A+ as always
5 of 5 Fast shipping, excellent packaging, and good bud!
5 of 5 Great product and great seller!
I challenge anyone to go through the feedbacks of a legit vendor (like pharmville) and find that many feedbacks in a row with that level of grammar and spelling.
I could do this all day but I think i've proved my point.
Anyone care to comment on my DCN scam theory?
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Buyer beware. I'll never order from this vendor again...
On Jan 21st I ordered a 1/2 oz of white widow, on Jan 27th I received a package containing a 1/4 oz of something else, definitely not white widow, I suspect it was Trainwreck, very dark in color, almost no smell. Decent quality though..
I sent MHM a message explaining that I only received half of my order, I didn't even bother to address the fact that it wasn't White widow as I assumed I received another persons package by mistake. MHM insisted I wait the full 14 days then send the item into resolution.
After waiting over a week I place the order in resolution (first time I've ever had to do that btw) MHM agreed to replace the missing 1/4 or refund me 50%. Assuming MHM would recognize their mistake and take care of me I said go ahead and send me a 1/4 of your finest bud as replacement. I should have just took the 50% refund as they took several days to respond to my resolution requests.
Here's the kicker, 5 days after MHM said they shipped the replacement 1/4, they send me another message requesting my address AGAIN. By this point I'm done dealing with this guy and request a %50 refund, but low and behold, the very next day I receive a little priority box in the mail... talk about incompetence.
What I received was a 1/4 of what appears to be white widow SHAKE! Seriously, the largest "bud" in the bag was the size of the tip of my pinkie and this stuff is dry like dust. I was astonished that this is what I received as a replacement for a order the HE/SHE fucked up.
2/5 - Sure they sent me some "weed", but I never really got what I ordered and ended up having to wait 22 days to complete a domestic weed order...
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As a first time buyer, I decided to go with MileHighMedicine based on the amount of good feedback and selection of strains... Unfortunately, as a SR noob, I made the mistake of not thoroughly researching their "business" practices. I'm giving them the benefit of the doubt considering it's not a large order (1/4 of G13, not yet marked in transit) and I already have a decent stash. ;D I will make an update with the results of the transaction once it's done... All in all, I have definitely have learned a lesson from this; Do more intensive research before attempting a purchase. As in all things; Caveat emptor!
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EDIT: Felt I needed to change my post, since it was biased from my mood of the day a bit. I will say this, I ordered from MHM, and finalized early as a gesture. My order was marked shipped over that weekend. 2 weeks later, I query about its status, next day I have a reply, and a DCN for THAT morning. Sure enough, my item was marked as shipped, and never sent until after I brought it up. It arrives 2 days after they actually sent it. MHM admits they are busy, but they need to clarify, marking an item as shipped,in their case, does not mean its shipped or even qued for shipping yet. There is additional evidence to suggest MHM hangs on to customer info WAY longer than needed. I have no idea if my delay issue was a mistake or coincidence, as MHM simply DOES NOT communicate,you just have to know that, its on their info page. Also, they do not attempt to grade their products, and from what I've gathered, the quality varies.
new conclusion: If I knew MHM wasnt busy, I would try them again. But they do have some issues to address.
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I think some of you guys are being a little hard, after all this isn't exactly a legit brick and mortar business. I didn't think they were the same person, but did think it was odd as I just ordered 1 oz from milehigh and 2 from timetravel (on the same saturday evening). 2oz just showed up, 5 business days later (quite happy with that btw). The 2 oz looks just like the stuff I got from milehigh last time, and packaged the same. So immediately I'm thinking, this guy accidentally sent me 2 oz (and 2 more will show up with the other guys package). Then I got to thinking and did a little research here and see this thread.
Even if it is all true, I've still gotten my weed every time I guess is the bottom line. The two previous orders one came fast and the other took 2 weeks, but I was very happy with the quality both times. Like it says on the website, it may take time, I just order way in advance. Are there really all those different strains or is it just whatever's in stock? To me I guess it doesn't really matter, as everything has been about the best weed I've smoked and its a little cheaper than local. It was just odd that timetravelers weed is exactly the same as mile high's last time, though i ordered 2 of the other kind. In the end I'm happy though. I'll laugh if its the other type of weed shows up as the 1 oz. ;D
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could this just be a way for some competitors to get more of the weed business on SR. I noticed that most (not all) of the negative remarks are coming from people with less than 10 or so posts (scammers). Not saying that mhm medicine is very good at shipping but this doesn't mean he's a scammer. as most people have already said (including OP) they have got their shipments in although a bit late. I've orderded from multiple places and it seems the less bulk oriented sellers can get their products out almost same day though bulk sellers require some waiting time.
just my 2 cents.
That's cause the members with a high post count are using other vendors.
Why continue to complain, there are plenty of competitors?
I also agree it's not a scam unless you loose money, or product.
The service sucks? Find somebody else.
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>:( I ordered 5x 150ug LSD Sugar Cubes from MHM, allegedly shipped on February 5, 2012. 12 days later and the product still has not yet arrived. I'm going to give this dude the benefit of the doubt and wait to check the mail on Saturday, but my gut tells me I've been scammed or MHM just doesn't have his shit together. When asking me to pre-finalize (a reasonable request given that it was one of my first orders), MHM wrote "yes, all of our acid items we require finalization before shipment. Thanks." That statement, in my mind, implies that MHM has to source his acid before shipping, increasing the risk of non-delivery or extremely late delivery. $50.00 worth of acid is not a huge order, so I had no reason to anticipate any problems. But, as I said, if my LSD doesn't arrive by Saturday, I'm going to have to join the growing chorus of "Fuck this guy", give him a 1/5 review, and warn others not to even bother engaging MHM in a transaction.
Every other vendor here has been great in terms of communication and delivering what was promised in a reasonable time. MHM's terms of sale just reek of hostility and contempt for customers. I should have checked the forums before placing an order, but at the time, his feedback rating was quite good. Newbie mistake, but I'm still pretty pissed.
Since I pre-finalized, how do I put the item into dispute status? I've checked the wiki, read the forums, and scoured the site, but can't figure it out. Is it even possible to dispute after finalization?
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Every other vendor here has been great in terms of communication and delivering what was promised in a reasonable time. MHM's terms of sale just reek of hostility and contempt for customers. I should have checked the forums before placing an order, but at the time, his feedback rating was quite good. Newbie mistake, but I'm still pretty pissed.
Since I pre-finalized, how do I put the item into dispute status? I've checked the wiki, read the forums, and scoured the site, but can't figure it out. Is it even possible to dispute after finalization?
Nope, you are screwed.
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The only thing you can do is change the rating and feedback you gave when you "pre finalized" or gave up your escrow protection. Go under your acct page and look at view feedback. You can edit what you wrote and at least let others know and affect his rating with a big fat 1.
Live and learn. Also send SR a note to let them know about said scammer.
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Every other vendor here has been great in terms of communication and delivering what was promised in a reasonable time. MHM's terms of sale just reek of hostility and contempt for customers.
I should have checked the forums before placing an order, but at the time, his feedback rating was quite good. Newbie mistake, but I'm still pretty pissed.
Since I pre-finalized, how do I put the item into dispute status? I've checked the wiki, read the forums, and scoured the site, but can't figure it out. Is it even possible to dispute after finalization?
I am not sure what you consider good but on this site anything under 95 I consider to be bad and his rating is always around 89 -90 which I consider very bad and not someone I would ever want to do business with and I always buy small (have never had an order for more then $80) so my risk is always low and I still would never risk it.
All you have to do is read a few pages of his feedback on SR to see there are a lot of problems. When it comes to an anonymous site like this you ALWAYS have to be extra careful when you order.
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I ordered from MHM 1x, but before placing I sent a PM purely asking the price for a combined order. Explicitly stated was just researching, did not necessarily intend to buy.
Within an hour, MHM had replied with a custom listing for me (even though I didnt ask for it...). I thought 'Ok, fast communication, seemingly good product, this is a solid vendor'
Ended up not ordering that custom, but one of his normal listings, and WOW did things change. once I had placed the order (did NOT finalize early thank god), I couldn't get a response from them without atleast 3-4 days lag. I asked about canceling my order after 3 days with it still 'processing' and they said it had shipped that day.
It did not ship until atleast a week later (took about 14 days, domestic delivery, which is ridiculous...), they simply placed 'in transit' so I couldnt cancel on my end. Which is BS.
So many better choices at your finger tips than MHM. Ordering from MHM over other solid SR vendors is like choosing to get a dry handjob from a dude vs banging Kate Upton raw dog.
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I ordered my very first product off SR from MHM on Thursday night, naively unaware that I could have to go through this. The package was marked in transit the following morning, and I'm just hoping my ounce of bud comes through and is as good as is advertised. Since I'm a first time buyer and there ARE many good reviews on MHM, I'm giving her (?) the benefit of the doubt and just waiting it out. I am surprised that a seller could get away with such BS and still be a notable vendor on Silk Road, and I just hope that those bad cases are rarities. I will post again once I receive my product or a refund.
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Bud nicely manicured but very dry. Absolutely no moisture at all inside the bud. Makes it impossible to tell if the supposed "Sweet Island Skunk" was sent or it was any other of his strains.
Though probably well-intentioned, this is a classic example of a vendor growing to big for there own good. Customer service is non-existent and even hostile when present. Shipping procedures are ass-backward. Quality not even Grade A, I'd put their product in the B range. I can see this vendor doing much better with less products or more employees. I will not be using this vendor again.
Ordered 2/8 -> put in Transit 2/10 -> put into Resolution 2/20 -> SHIPPED on 2/21 with DCN -> arrived 2/24. Decent quality bud definately not Medical Grade though, but great marketing gimmick. Vendor is either very stupid or uses his product to much. Does not realize what the Put in Transit button does. It's very simple once you have shipped someone's package, you click the package in transit button. Seller uses this button instead to put your order on queue, then uses the resolution procedure as his internal reminder to ship the package. Its not rocket science! DON'T CLICK IN TRANSIT IF IT'S NOT TRANSIT, HOW HARD IS THIS?
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I ordered months ago before I came to the forum from Timetraveler. I didn't have any issues with his shipping except it should have maybe been a little more hidden like in something opaque just incase the package opened a little during shipping. I guess i got lucky in that respect.
However, the bud was complete shit. Locally it would probably go for about 150 an ounce if. It tasted ok, but was not potent at all. This was "trainwreck", but i doubt any of their stuff is different because this was so terrible.
It sucks that these guys have so many listings up. I wish there were a way to just get rid of them and see the real vendors that don't suck.
I just wanted to come in here and bitch about it because if i wanted regular weed, I would have paid half the price and bought it from my local dealer.
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yupp.. so i placed an order for 1/4oz of blackberry kush. something went wrong with tor and sent the order in twice. i message time traveler explaining this to him and he messaged me back with
"We canceled one for you. In the future, please be mindful of your actions while submitting orders, we typically process orders separately from messages, as we give them priority, and it is not always the case that we would even see the request before it have already been shipped.
TT."
once i read this my order STILL wasn't canceled. i figured i should give him some more time. check back everyday still not canceled. then something REALLY weird happens.. the order he told me he would cancel was marked "in transit" on a SUNDAY. then after 3 messaged of him not answering i decided to put "CONTACTING SR." in the subject... couple hours later i get a reply saying this was the reasoning.
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Sorry,
It was already shipped when i went to cancel it. In the future, consider an order, an order, do not assume they can be canceled.
TT. "
weird, because it was marked in transit 4 days after the other order which was placed at the SAME time and you had already told me you received the message and was going to cancel it.
however, i would like to add i received my FIRST 1/4oz 10 days after being marked in transit.
the other 1/4oz that i didn't even want and was told was being canceled has not arrived yet and i will be able to resolve it in 8 hours. we shall see if the mail man delivers.
- on a side note... the weed that i did get? SUCKED. it was all dry and nasty i could get better around here.. and it was filled with a lot of shake.. it definitely wasn't blackberry, and i'm PRETTY SURE he uses the same bud for all this "strains"
whatever... because i'm smoking on some grape ape from HappySmoke420 :)
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Helloooooooo fellow Roadsters!
Straight up. I have made 5 orders with MHM. I have received 5 orders from MHM that were all delivered on time. I have ordered 2 different strains and received 2 different strains. I have really had no issues with this vendor so when I was looking to try out someone new and browsing the forums I was shocked to find this thread.
I am not telling anyone to do anything, if you are uncomfortable there are many other great vendors on the Road, but I thought I would relay my experience since there is an assload of negativity in this thread.
Maybe I just got lucky. If this is reject weed from a dispensary then I am a reject, because it is better than anything I can get around here.
PS: I even ordered a 1/2 of shake to bolster my joints and it was decent in its own right.
Keep an open mind and keep safe.
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I've been buying primarily from MHM for the last several months with no complaints. Add one notch in the Pro category
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All these glowing reviews next to the negative ones are very suspicious... but who am I to talk?
It looks like MHM has been upsetting some buyers lately, here's 2 recent reviews that are really bad:
***ATTENTION*** if you're gauging this user's feedback right now to get an idea of whether or not you should make a purchase, please continue reading: This is by far the worst seller i've ever encountered on SR to date. in fact, this will have been the only time i haven't given a 5/5 to a user.
the story starts off with me delighting over the purchase of a 1/2 ounce of white widow. little did i know i'd be spending the next two weeks waiting for my product. it reaches the point in the transaction when the "resolve" button is highlighted. so i click it, having thought that MHM has had ample time to ship the product (and for me to receive it), and we enter the resolution center. here, i would spend the next 3-4 days engaged in a debate with the seller while he tried to defend the notion that his product had been seized. likely story. as, in fact, under this seller's other account (browse the forums a little and you can figure out his alternate seller's ID), we were having a nearly identical dispute in the resolution center over the same problem -- no shipment/no receipt/claims of product being seized. this individual is trying to claim that TWO of his packages got seized and that i wouldn't be receiving a refund. all i have to say is.. THANK GOD FOR THE LOGICAL ADMINS. they ruled in my favor at the end of this painstaking ordeal, and i could not be more tickled with delight.
lastly, i'm just gonna say.. MHM doesn't screw over 100% of his sellers. IMHO, he targets a select few and then deliberately pulls a fast one on them to make some more money. i'm not saying you won't get your product.. 'cause odds are you will.. what i am saying is that you are taking a marginal gamble on the possibility on receiving your weed. and that is NOT what this gorgeous, inspired community is all about. /end_rant
50% of my order mysteriously never arrived. DCN provided by MHI confirmed that the package was never delivered. Perhaps it was seized, perhaps it was never actually sent.
Seller refunded 25% of purchase price following resolution...I lost $250...theoretically so did he.
The 2oz that did arrive, however, were top quality. I'm not sure if this was an elaborate scam or if the package was seized.
This vendor sells top quality product but is very slow.
***AVOID TRANSACTIONS OVER 1oz FROM THIS VENDOR***
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MHM/TT have been running a selective scamming service since day fucking one yet they are still on here. There needs to be a banning in place but my prediction is it never will happen unless you guys actually send ur reports in using 'contact admin', with enough complaints they will get frozen.
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Guys the admins really need to step in here. Milehighmedicine doesn't ship orders for DAYS AND DAYS after the order is placed and marked in transit.
Think about it. Once an order is marked in transit the address is deleted from silk road. They mark their orders in transit very quickly but ship out days and days, even weeks after its been marked. This means what?
They have your addresses stored for weeks at a time. If they got busted MANY people would be compromised.
This is serious. Ill contact vendor support.
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I made a purchase from these guys about three days ago. I knew he seemed shady but he was the only US seller with white widow so I gave him a try.
He hasn't logged in since Wednesday so he is probably busy. I'm just hoping he ships soon and its some good bud. I'll try to keep you guys updated on what happens.
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From what I hear you won't get the strains he said he offers. You'd get some OK bud, middie style.
There are far better and far more professional US vendors, who ship light years quicker than these two and are much more honest too.
Please don't deal with these two vendors.
Also notice how basically all good reviews are 1 or 2 poster accs lol.
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check out my profile on silkroad them pm me
i got exclusive strains andi provide express and priority and ill give you the numbers
BOSSHOGG
UPDATES ARE AT THE BOTTOM
I would like to share my woes with the rest of Silk Road, that you all might be spared the pain of dealing with this vendor.
In late November, I placed an order with the SR vendor called "MileHighMedicine." I sent the vendor a message, requesting that they inform me when they shipped the package. One day later, it was marked "in transit," meaning that the vendor has packaged the product and placed it in the mail. I took this on good faith, assuming that (due to their good reviews) I could trust their word.
A week later, I hadn't seen any package, so I checked up on the order. No messages had been sent, no delays had been reported, and other reviews of the vendor stated that the product often took longer than normal to arrive. So I assumed that it was the normal shipping delay. But, just to be sure, I sent the vendor a message asking for an update, just to verify shipping.
After another week, the package still hadn't arrived, and I had not received any response to my message. I went back to check on the order. As per the vendor's instructions on the site, "If you have not received at the predefined period of 14 days maxiumum, you should put the item into dispute." So I did. I put the order into dispute, explained the situation, and asked that a refund be given if the item had not shipped. By this point I was getting a bit annoyed, as I've never had a vendor take so long to deliver a package before.
The vendor stated on their profile that "By the expiration of the dispute I will either provide a DCN as proof of shipping or issue a refund." This never happened.
I checked on the resolution multiple times a day. The resolution expired without milehighmedicine ever providing a refund or a DCN. The resolution was turned over to an admin. The admin gave them an extension, in the hopes that they'd respond.
Shortly before the extension expired, MileHighMedicine finally posted a response:
"Sorry for the delay. Your order is now on its way. Here is the DCN number it should load in a day or so: XXXX XXXX XXXX XXXX XXXX."
THE VENDOR WAITED UNTIL AFTER THE EXTENSION TO EVEN SHIP MY PACKAGE.
At this point I was (justifiably) quite upset. However, the package was supposedly in the mail (despite the fact that a DCN simply proves that a package was shipped, not that it was the actual item ordered). So I requested that, due to the fact that the vendor had failed to ship until after the resolution had expired, despite having marked the package "in transit" over 20 days prior, I should receive a 50% refund. (Which, I believe, is more than fair, due to the amount of time, money, and stress wasted on waiting to receive this package. I lost business and income due to the vendor's delays and crappy business practices.)
The admins even agreed that a 50% refund was more than reasonable considering the circumstances.
After another 5 days, the vendor had still not responded to my resolution proposition. I had to leave town and had still not received the package. I made it clear that I would not finalize the purchase until the package had been weighed and verified, and even then, not until a resolution had been agreed upon.
Another 6 days later, the vendor finally responded by posting the shipping details of my package openly in the Resolution Center. They refused to offer refund, stating that they had followed their business practices as outlined on their profile. They stated that, due to the fact that the DCN reports that the package was delivered, they would not issue a refund of any kind (despite the fact that the package's contents could not be verified as I was out of town).
As it stands, I've lost a great deal of business, time, and money due to MHM's shitty business practices. If this were a legit company, they'd have been sued out of existence by this point for shady business practices. Unfortunately, the only thing I can do is ask the admins for help and report their foul dealings on the forums.
1. MHM fraudulently marked the package "in transit," violating my trust.
2. MHM did not actually ship the package until after the resolution offer had expired and an admin had extended the time limit.
3. MHM ignored all of the attempts I'd made to communicate with them, even after the order had been disputed.
4. MHM, through their dishonesty, cost me time, money, and business, and refuses to acknowledge their fault.
5. MHM completely violated their own business agreement, as stated on their profile.
The most I have asked is 50% refund to help cover damages. MHM still refuses to budge. It's been over a month now.
Ladies and Gentlemen, Boys and Girls, I highly advise that you do not trust MileHighMedicine. I have never in my life experienced such horrendous, fraudulent, and disrespectful service from any business, anywhere.
Save yourself a world of trouble, shop with someone else.
UPDATE 1: Once I get home and verify that the package was delivered, I will inspect the package and weigh the contents. I will then update this thread to report whether MHM actually shipped the advertised product. As we all know, DCNs are nice, but they can't verify that the contents of the package match the product ordered. Check back after the 29th and I'll keep you updated.
UPDATE 2: The package finally arrived. I inspected the contents and the product. Everything was neatly and professionally packaged, and the product was EXACTLY the weight I had ordered (not over or under by even a gram). So yes, the product finally arrived (though it was over 1 month late). But I am still requesting a 50% refund due to the time, money, and stress caused by MHM's dishonest business practices. I still advise all buyers to steer clear -- this is more hassle than anyone should have to deal with.
UPDATE 3: The resolution has expired numerous times, and MHM has continued to ignore it entirely. Not a word via PM or resolution reply. Basically, I assume that one of two things is happening here: a) MHM doesn't care anymore, and is simply ignoring the entire issue, or b) MHM is simply doing everything they can to draw out the ordeal, causing me (and the admins) to wait. This is completely ridiculous. The admins have, on numerous occasions, extended the due date for the resolution simply because MHM has refused to make any comment or response. It has been 40 days since the purchase was made and MHM has still made no efforts to reach a resolution. Simply unacceptable.
UPDATE 4: The resolution expired again, and the admins extended it again. Finally, after it expired, MHM replied. She refused to give a refund, stating that any damages incurred due to her failure to ship are not her fault and not covered by her contract. She claims that she's done nothing wrong. She states that by providing the DCN she is no longer liable for any refunds, and claims that her actions are not fraudulent. This is, of course, ignoring the fact that the resolution expired before she even shipped the package or posted a DCN, and ignoring the fact that she marked it "in transit" over 2 weeks before actually shipping the product. In her profile she states that she will issue a refund if the DCN is not posted before the end of the dispute, yet the dispute expired and had to be extended before a DCN was posted! She's obviously lying left and right. By my definition, that's called "fraud."
I have appealed to the Administrators to step in on this issue. It is obvious that MHM is not going to back down. So I have requested that the administrators cease extending the resolution and simply make their decision and enforce it. If they feel that MHM has done nothing wrong and that I do not deserve a refund, then they should finalize and be done with it. If, however, they feel that MHM has acted fraudulently, and that some form of refund would be fair, then they can issue the refund and close the resolution altogether. The ball is in their court. I'm done.
FINAL UPDATE: The admins stepped in and forced a resolution. I was refunded 20% (which I consider fair). I'm glad to see that the SR staff are intelligent and just. Here is what they said:
Dear CapitalG and milehighmedicine,
I am sorry you could not come to a resolution. We have settled on a refund of 20%. I hope this is agreeable for you both.
Because the item did arrive eventually, a 50/50 split would not be fair. However, mhm, you absolutely must not click confirm shipment until the item is actually in the mail stream. 20% is fair compensation for the delay and uncertainty your actions caused CapitalG.
If you have any questions or concerns, please do not hesitate to reply to this message.
Best regards,
Silk Road staff
Thanks to everyone who gave their support, and I hope that this thread will serve as a warning to any future customers.
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I'm in resolution now with MHM and the clock just ran out, so the admins should step in soon. I'll let you know what happens.
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I'm in resolution now with MHM and the clock just ran out, so the admins should step in soon. I'll let you know what happens.
good luck dude, hopefully he refunds or actually ships it out.
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I made a purchase from these guys about three days ago. I knew he seemed shady but he was the only US seller with white widow so I gave him a try.
He hasn't logged in since Wednesday so he is probably busy. I'm just hoping he ships soon and its some good bud. I'll try to keep you guys updated on what happens.
There is an argument that exists that the names of strains and what is actually being consumed often have a meaningless association. You took a risk of your money, dope, anonymity, etc simply because you had to have "white widow"? I have personally had 3 white widow strains grown by 3 different growers. Considering the numerous variables in play (nutrients, pH, light spectrum, light cycle timing, flushing, curing, etc) it is safe to say that all 3 final products were very unique from each other. They were all green and frosty and they all got you stoned. That is about where the similarities ended.
Think about it, man. When you eat a burger with tomato, do you say (i only want the tomato if it is a "Big Boy Heirloom Beefsteak #3. No roma tomatoes, no hothouse tomatoes, no cherry tomatoes...only the "Big Boy Heirloom Beefsteak #3).
Focus on the reputation and feedback scores of the vendors, then buy what is plentiful. It will almost certainly be satisfactory for your needs. (Although I feel ya; I really would like to get some old school "Juicy Fruit", "Yumboldt" or "Cali Orange"
- eb 8)
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There is an argument that exists that the names of strains and what is actually being consumed often have a meaningless association. You took a risk of your money, dope, anonymity, etc simply because you had to have "white widow"? I have personally had 3 white widow strains grown by 3 different growers. Considering the numerous variables in play (nutrients, pH, light spectrum, light cycle timing, flushing, curing, etc) it is safe to say that all 3 final products were very unique from each other. They were all green and frosty and they all got you stoned. That is about where the similarities ended.
Think about it, man. When you eat a burger with tomato, do you say (i only want the tomato if it is a "Big Boy Heirloom Beefsteak #3. No roma tomatoes, no hothouse tomatoes, no cherry tomatoes...only the "Big Boy Heirloom Beefsteak #3).
Focus on the reputation and feedback scores of the vendors, then buy what is plentiful. It will almost certainly be satisfactory for your needs. (Although I feel ya; I really would like to get some old school "Juicy Fruit", "Yumboldt" or "Cali Orange"
- eb 8)
I know it sounds stupid but I just wanted to give it a try since it seems to be a hyped up strain.
I've found a few good vendors now so I think i'll stick to them. MrYellow is a great one, ships quick
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I'm in resolution now with MHM and the clock just ran out, so the admins should step in soon. I'll let you know what happens.
good luck dude, hopefully he refunds or actually ships it out.
UPDATE: It went great! The admins stepped in and gave me a 100% refund, no questions asked. Here's more details in my review of MHM I just wrote:
*** AVOID SELLER AT ALL COSTS ***
I used to be a big fan of MileHighMedicine or TimeTraveler (they're the same person) and ordered from him multiple times in the past, but this last order has changed my mind completely.
When I ordered 2oz he waited 4 business days to ship it, even though the product page claimed "all orders ship within 48 hours". He marked it "shipped" at that point and I waited. And waited. 2 weeks go by and before resolution I sent a message and received no response (this was expected though according to his policy). Once in resolution MHM provided a DCN that showed my package was shipped 10 days AFTER it was marked "shipped". I asked why the delay, and MHM claimed "sometimes they update DCN tracking till the very end when package is delivered so I have faith that order will arrive this week", that was 9 days ago.
Once the deadline was up, the admins stepped in and granted me a 100% refund. I'm not sure if this seller is running a "selective scam", but a lot of people in the forums have had the exact same problem from MHM for a long time:
http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=16705.msg164878#msg164878
http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=11346.msg105554#msg105554
http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=7645.0
*** AVOID SELLER AT ALL COSTS ***
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I would also like to say AVOID AT ALL COSTS.
I placed an order and it sat in processing for 5 days...I LOST $45 from this mother fucker due to the hedging fund. Seriously, FUCK MHM. I would highly recommend meganug or kaliforniaProducts over him/her.
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Duh ::)
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Luckily he didnt put my order into that BS transit shit he does for everyone else when he never ships. I was able to get a full refund so I went and bought from another seller.
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Um, is it my imagination or are all of TimeTraveler's and MileHighMedicine's listings missing from SR? :o
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Looks like they are all gone. Wonder what happened
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I messaged SR Admin with my issues with this vendor and asking them to check out the issues other people were having in the feedback...Maybe DPR actually did something.
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And stay away! :P
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Yeah guys, I messaged Vendor Support a few days ago and I noticed they just read it this morning, So they actually did something. Good to hear it :) That guy needed to go, he was compromising way too many people with his poor ass business practices.
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and there was much rejoicing!
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My VERY FIRST SR purchase was with MileHighMedicine. He/she stole $1,500 from me. Straight up. It was my mistake, as a novice, I didn't go through Escrow. ---but, after they got the money...ALL COMMUNICATION STOPPED. Needless to say, it almost pushed me right off "The Road." But, I realized that I acted too quickly...and didn't handle the procedure correctly. It was my first time.
But, fuck them, because they actually KNEW it was my first time...and in hindsight, they took complete advantage of that.
Fuck MHM.
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Well its always the same win some lose many. This business is illegal we dont pay taxes so we are forced to lose in other ways that "legitmaite" sic business are protected from (they pay a protection racket known as Government)
If SR hasent banned timetraveler and milehigh yet, than tony76 wont be banned either.
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My VERY FIRST SR purchase was with MileHighMedicine. He/she stole $1,500 from me. Straight up. It was my mistake, as a novice, I didn't go through Escrow. ---but, after they got the money...ALL COMMUNICATION STOPPED. Needless to say, it almost pushed me right off "The Road." But, I realized that I acted too quickly...and didn't handle the procedure correctly. It was my first time.
But, fuck them, because they actually KNEW it was my first time...and in hindsight, they took complete advantage of that.
Fuck MHM.
Face Palm
Holy Shit!
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Well its always the same win some lose many. This business is illegal we dont pay taxes so we are forced to lose in other ways that "legitmaite" sic business are protected from (they pay a protection racket known as Government)
If SR hasent banned timetraveler and milehigh yet, than tony76 wont be banned either.
After all the fees involved for the sake of anonymity, I'd prefer taxes.