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Market => Rumor mill => Topic started by: lightfoot on December 24, 2011, 12:07 pm
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New vendor is using standard stock images from google images
Doesn't prove anything - if I was vending blotters whose image was all over the internet already then I might do the same.
But it's generally not a good sign if a vendor is using an image that isn't signed and dated and is so easily pulled from the web.
Vendor uses the phrase 'honestly dosed and freshly laid'. This was a favorite phrase of a US vendor on OVDB who used to lay his own and got busted. Doesn't prove anything, but it once again suggests a cut-and-paste job rather than an authentic vendor profile. It is also highly dubious from a vendor selling mass-market Euro prints, which are never honestly dosed and are rarely freshly laid (and how does he know if he's based in the UK?). Caution advised.
Ug claims for these blotters are typical of those found on the web but as usual not consistent with known lab tests.
Vendor is asking for early finalization in many cases.
HOWEVER
Vendor is offering in-escrow for known buyers.
Freddy's cat blotters, while they have a rep for inconsistency, are also known to be used sometimes for very strong lays.
And if this vendor is legit then could be a great option for many people.
I'd encourage known buyers with time on their hands to get a strip of the freddies and test one immediately before finalizing. Would discourage others from buying until this happens.
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Seems dubious. :(
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thanks, was searching for more information on him - was hoping to see an introduction thread.
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The recent euro blotters have not been up to their usual par. However, I procured my current bibles of these sheets before the issue arose. As you can see I am not offering the Red Ganeshas that have been the main issue. Ok maybe I don't know if they are honestly laid but I have yet to have any complaints in real life, and I source in NL where these blotters are mostly sold. Just because I ship from UK doesn't mean I don't know my shit mate. I'll change my wording if this concerns you. I don't know what OVDB is so I can't really comment on that. Anymore questions let me know.
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Give him a chance.
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The recent euro blotters have not been up to their usual par. However, I procured my current bibles of these sheets before the issue arose. As you can see I am not offering the Red Ganeshas that have been the main issue. Ok maybe I don't know if they are honestly laid but I have yet to have any complaints in real life, and I source in NL where these blotters are mostly sold. Just because I ship from UK doesn't mean I don't know my shit mate. I'll change my wording if this concerns you. I don't know what OVDB is so I can't really comment on that. Anymore questions let me know.
Agreed - good reply which suggests vendor authenticity.
One suggestion - if you've got NL connections then you can get your blotters lab tested. Even if they are half the dosage you're advertising then they will fly out at the prices you're offering them for, especially if customers have the confidence of authenticated dosage.
Sorry I am making a habit of harassing vendors about this because I'm sick of the whole European culture of bullshit about dosage - but the experience on SR is that vendors who get a rep for reliable, tested dosage info sell more than the ones who exaggerate (or reproduce the exaggerations that they've been told).
Hope it does go well for you mate because you are actually offering reasonable prices.
Merry Christmas!
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Will do this once I have things running smoothly. These doses are only what everyone is told when buying. Things are a bit hectic at the moment getting this whole thing started up. :)
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Just wanted to let everyone know I took my own photos and uploaded them. Hope this inspires more confidence in a new seller.
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The pictures are looking good. But I have one question why are the "Hoffmann's" are called "red Ganesha Hoffman's". Are they printed on both sides on one side "Hoffmann" and on the other "red Ganesha"? I have never heard about something like that. But all in all the tabs look like good acid tabs to me. ;) ;D
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No. I have the Blue Ganesha outline on the back of the sheets, and then they have the red Hoffman print on the front. Not the green 'Forever' one but the 1943-1995 style one. :) The Red Ganeshas that have been coming out lately have been unevenly laid/poorly dosed, so I don't carry these.
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Would you be willing to post a picture of the back of the tabs? (The Hoffmans) Signed and dated too of course :) That would be great!
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Vendor is offering in-escrow for known buyers.
Freddy's cat blotters, while they have a rep for inconsistency, are also known to be used sometimes for very strong lays.
And if this vendor is legit then could be a great option for many people.
I'd encourage known buyers with time on their hands to get a strip of the freddies and test one immediately before finalizing. Would discourage others from buying until this happens.
It's almost too good to be true, but at the same time too good to pass up as these freddies are supposed to be really good. Hopefully I'll pass as a "known buyer" - I'd really rather not finalise early. I'll let you know how I get on :)
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Welcome on Silkroad marketplace amsterdam24 and i was reading topics about other vendors to keep update what is going on here.
My advice for you is to start with investment in customers with small or free sample's so you have an reliable feedback review about your service and products.
Also my experience that if you start as a vendor you can't ask in the beginning for customers to release early escrow because you don't have the reliable position and feedback transaction over 200 to give the customers an certainty that you are here for the long run.
I wish the best and happy new year.
Greets DutchShop,
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Also my experience that if you start as a vendor you can't ask in the beginning for customers to release early escrow because you don't have the reliable position and feedback transaction over 200 to give the customers an certainty that you are here for the long run.
I wish the best and happy new year.
Greets DutchShop,
^^^ THIS!
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shiznit said it perfectly . never finalize early if you are a well known buyer that is active in the forums and has a good refund rate. there is no reason for an honest seller to make you finalize early(except in certain special cases with OG'S like ivory that only do finalize early, but he has already made enough of a name for himself that u can be confident in doing him the favor and going out of escrow). i really want to try these blotters because i didn't get a chance last time that they were around, but i'm not risking it until i see some respected forum members comment on his product
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I highly agree, we should give him a chance, but still trust no one lol
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things are looking more shady by the goddamn minute. look at his user profile and he has only 5 out of 5's that finalize early for "trusted seller"..... he is new and this is the same technique used by 18kct and some of those other lsd scammers that have been plaguing SR. Be very carefull
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I actually ordered from him on behalf of a friend of mine who is in the UK. I told him the risks but he was willing to chance it.
Order was supposedly shipped Wed night.
Order didn't arrive today. First class mail in the UK takes 1 day in over 80% of cases. More than 2 days is statistically negligible. There are no customs issues.
If it doesn't come tomorrow I will call scam. If it does then my friend (who is very experienced with acid) is all set to try them tomorrow night. If they are real and as good as advertised then I'll be the first to hail the guy a hero. We'll see!
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I really hope he comes through, I am getting ready to place an order with him but I want to be sure!
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I actually ordered from him on behalf of a friend of mine who is in the UK. I told him the risks but he was willing to chance it.
Order was supposedly shipped Wed night.
Order didn't arrive today. First class mail in the UK takes 1 day in over 80% of cases. More than 2 days is statistically negligible. There are no customs issues.
If it doesn't come tomorrow I will call scam. If it does then my friend (who is very experienced with acid) is all set to try them tomorrow night. If they are real and as good as advertised then I'll be the first to hail the guy a hero. We'll see!
Please update us how this turned out. I hope everything went well.
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I appears there are just too many suckers out there who are willing to finalize early for a new vendor. There are a few feedbacks claiming they've received something but they could be from puppet accounts for all we know. Maybe some people forget to go back and change it and not everyone reads these forums so that could be why no one is coming forward to vouch for them.
Still you should never finalize early for a new vendor. I really hope they're legit though as we need some UK acid vendors.
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I actually ordered from him on behalf of a friend of mine who is in the UK. I told him the risks but he was willing to chance it.
Order was supposedly shipped Wed night.
Order didn't arrive today. First class mail in the UK takes 1 day in over 80% of cases. More than 2 days is statistically negligible. There are no customs issues.
If it doesn't come tomorrow I will call scam. If it does then my friend (who is very experienced with acid) is all set to try them tomorrow night. If they are real and as good as advertised then I'll be the first to hail the guy a hero. We'll see!
If you have still not received your order, message me and we will work it out.
@REM I am not a UK native I did not grow up here. I was born in the states but have lived here for many years. Old habits die hard.
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I did not receive.
Have messaged him and received an apology and a promise of a re-ship with extra.
Sorry amsterdam24 - but I've received exactly the same promise from scammers in the past.
It's even possible that I will receive and this will not prove that he isn't a scammer - he could easily have a few strips that he is sending out only to a few in-escrow customers and to appease troublemakers like me.
Please watch the feedbacks people - unless we see a whole bunch of those 'finalize early' turn into 'received' then we have to assume right now that this is a scam.
I really hope it isn't. @amsterdam24 if you turn out to be legit then I really apologize, but I'm afraid all experienced SR members will agree that the pattern so far screams 'scammer'. A pack not being received within the UK really shoots your credibility to shit mate - I'm sorry to say.
It is perfectly possible that this still isn't a scam. Vendors make mistakes. A top SR vendor recently sent me a pack that was badly under-weight by mistake - problem was cleared up easily. Apart from this, although A24's pattern looks very scammer-like, it also looks like the pattern with Asbjorn, who is not a scammer but just a very professional vendor of bulk European acid.
But people for God's sake - be patient and wait a few days before sending this guy any money. By the middle of next week we will know for sure whether people around the world have received their packs. Hope they do - I really do - but you have to believe me that a letter not being received after 2 days in the UK means only one thing: IT WAS NOT SENT.
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How long does shipping take to get to the states? My order was shipped two days ago. I'll update to let people know when and if i got my goods. Hope everything is legit though...
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@mrgrey , he shouldn't require early finalization from you even if you are international. Given your reputation that is.
I went ahead and bit the bullet after seeing some seemingly successful purchases from EU customers...feedback didn't seem to be indicative of one person trying to up his feedback, though there is a possibility I'm wrong (if you want to see what I mean, check out BTCKing's feedback. Obviously faked, and the same style of writing is used in every feedback.).
Dropped $45 on a 10strip of the Hoffmann/Ganesha. Gave him a 3/5 (I feel that is perfectly fine for early finalization.). After that, he did message me and complained that I ruined his reputation for no reason. That he hopes I won't hurt his business, and that he felt it was very unnecessary. Overall he was generally upset over it, but said he would ship my order regardless.
Not going to lead anyone to any conclusions or make any accusations yet, just telling others my piece of the story so they have a better idea of what they are getting into beforehand.
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uh oh I am gettin scared :/ I am hoping he is the one, starting to look like not though :/
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Really disappointed this thread has had to have been made, i was putting so much hope into having a nice UK supply. I'm In the UK and ordered on christmas day yet I have been waiting all week with no avail. I was okay to wait but after seeing this thread i'm quite anxious and annoyed. Just sent him a message, hopefully everything will turn out spic and spam though.... >:( :'( :-\
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I would like to think that hes probably overwhelmed with the orders,and the fact that its the holiday season.Most postal companies would be closed.Lets give him the "benefit of the doubt".Hopefully, he pulls thru!
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i live in the states. Ordered a strip on xmas day, he told me on the 26th that he had shipped it. still not here yet. i will update
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I live in EU, ordered on 31, i will update
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I'm not sure about this guy.
He is super responsive and courteous... but 18kct was the same way. Real nice, responded quickly... then just disappeared.
Also, Mr.Amsterdam24 hasn't been on here since his first 6 posts. It's very unsettling.
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I would like to think that hes probably overwhelmed with the orders,and the fact that its the holiday season.Most postal companies would be closed.Lets give him the "benefit of the doubt".Hopefully, he pulls thru!
Hopefully... This is what i put it down to. I got a fast reply last night promising me a resend if my order hadn't arrived by monday, I'll be straight on here monday night if i do recieve
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>:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(
rom message freshness
amsterdam24(90) re: Order Shipped. 1 day
i want to believe that.. :-S
amsterdam24 State http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/index.php/silkroad/user/87591
I AM ON INDEFINITE VACATION UNTIL CURRENT ORDERS ARE TAKEN CARE OF
This user has no active listings
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I ordered after xmas in the states and it has supposedly shipped. I will update in a week.
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HA! I fucking knew it. He did exactly what 18kct did. Took a SHITLOAD of money from people then just takes off. Remember? "Drugs are bad!" fuck that. I really hope you guys get your packs, but I think it's kind of fishy that I ask him to post a pic of the back of the sheets and he just stops posting completely, yet he continues to be active on SR.
For everyone's sake I really hope I am wrong.
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amsterdam24(90) re: inquiry #10 100-120 Blue Ganesha...
The guy who is calling me a scammer gave 2 days for his order to arrive. I don't care if he lives down the block that is not adequate time for an order to arrive. I am not on the mainland of the UK and this is possibly the reason his order is taking longer, and once it is in the mail it is out of my control. But as soon as one person calls scammer, then I am done. After this is sorted I will just stick to what I know and say fuck this site.
we'll just wait and see.
come weds or thurs of this week we should know for sure where he stands...
SR has emailed me about a24 being submitted thru fraud alert etc...
i have a feeling it will work out, id be pissed as fuck too.
i personally trust the guy.. but i might just be gullible.
happy new year =)
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It amazes me every single time how trusting you guys are of random people selling drugs on the internet if this was one of the first lsd scammers id understand since I got fucked by one of them too but come on really. In fact im pretty damn sure this is the same guy scamming the shit out of everyone over and over.
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I suspect that this is a scam
In private PM with him I asked whether it had been shipped or not as I did not want it to be a scam.
He replied with "where were you again" - however his previous post said he had shipped it.
I responded with the location and said do you need my address again...
He then said no, I shipped it. So quite clear either off his head or a
scam. His story is that he travels Europe and meets people and then sends them the LSD in the post.
Maybe he was tripping on LSD when he came up with this scam.
Then when I explained we are in the UK - He said yeah sometime there are problems with the post
as we are on the same Island.
So people, looks like you have been had.
No benefit of the doubt. Will update if I am wrong.
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I suspect that this is a scam
In private PM with him I asked whether it had been shipped or not as I did not want it to be a scam.
He replied with "where were you again" - however his previous post said he had shipped it.
I responded with the location and said do you need my address again...
He then said no, I shipped it. So quite clear either off his head or a
scam. His story is that he travels Europe and meets people and then sends them the LSD in the post.
Maybe he was tripping on LSD when he came up with this scam.
Then when I explained we are in the UK - He said yeah sometime there are problems with the post
as we are on the same Island.
So people, looks like you have been had.
No benefit of the doubt. Will update if I am wrong.
In respond to this, I think that Silk Road is a very good idea but there needs to be an order throttling system even for early finalization. For someone to be able to join and sell many items without proof
of authenticity because of early finalization is complete lunacy. Silk road is a great concept but the anonymity part of it is oversimplified. Unless this problem is solved, this kind of behavior will happen again and again and again. So say for example you have 5 people, all good feedback, then that's marked as a block of good feedback and then you could tier towards a power seller like the Ebay system with trust and the quantity sold. Dunno, food for thought.
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I dodged a fucking bullet, man. I almost bought 10 for $55. Fuck. I knew it was too good to be true.
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I suspect that this is a scam
In private PM with him I asked whether it had been shipped or not as I did not want it to be a scam.
He replied with "where were you again" - however his previous post said he had shipped it.
I responded with the location and said do you need my address again...
He then said no, I shipped it. So quite clear either off his head or a
scam. His story is that he travels Europe and meets people and then sends them the LSD in the post.
Maybe he was tripping on LSD when he came up with this scam.
Then when I explained we are in the UK - He said yeah sometime there are problems with the post
as we are on the same Island.
So people, looks like you have been had.
No benefit of the doubt. Will update if I am wrong.
In respond to this, I think that Silk Road is a very good idea but there needs to be an order throttling system even for early finalization. For someone to be able to join and sell many items without proof
of authenticity because of early finalization is complete lunacy. Silk road is a great concept but the anonymity part of it is oversimplified. Unless this problem is solved, this kind of behavior will happen again and again and again. So say for example you have 5 people, all good feedback, then that's marked as a block of good feedback and then you could tier towards a power seller like the Ebay system with trust and the quantity sold. Dunno, food for thought.
You can make it even simpler, by requiring sellers to only sell in escrow for 10, 20 transactions, so that at least we know that the seller has the item and that it is as advertised quality.
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still hasn't arrived, in the states. but there have been 2 holidays since my order and its only been about 5 real work days. i find it very strange that he just changed his profile to the way it is...if he were a scammer, seems like he would do one of two things...1. take his money, delete his account, come back as diff user/never come back. or... 2. continue to have the listings and just allow people to call him a scammer, still receiving orders from newbies that have not looked him up in the form. it is weird that he just put "IM ON INDEFINITE VACATION".... HAS ANYONE, ANYONE AT ALL, RECEIVED AN ORDER FROM AMSTERDAM24
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Don't mean to bump the thread for nothing but SWIM has spent the night up on MDMA awaiting a certain package that he'd be told would arrive this morning. And hopefully mail should start coming through in an hour, I will be on this forum at the first site of anything!!
Really hate to think negative but it is stupid how we all fall for it :'( :-\
EDIT: bank holiday monday. D'oh.
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amsterdam24(90) re: inquiry #10 100-120 Blue Ganesha...
The guy who is calling me a scammer gave 2 days for his order to arrive. I don't care if he lives down the block that is not adequate time for an order to arrive. I am not on the mainland of the UK and this is possibly the reason his order is taking longer, and once it is in the mail it is out of my control. But as soon as one person calls scammer, then I am done. After this is sorted I will just stick to what I know and say fuck this site.
we'll just wait and see.
come weds or thurs of this week we should know for sure where he stands...
SR has emailed me about a24 being submitted thru fraud alert etc...
i have a feeling it will work out, id be pissed as fuck too.
i personally trust the guy.. but i might just be gullible.
happy new year =)
I am the guy in question and I have never actually called him a scammer - just pointed out that the pattern is precisely replicating the pattern of previous scams (which nobody has contradicted and several people have verified).
I have stated in feedback that this is PROBABLY a scam. Sorry, but on the basis of available evidence, this is a correct assessment. Can one person who has been around for more than a couple of weeks contradict me on this? If A24 is legit then I'm sorry - but man, you admitted that you are new and don't know the history and I'm afraid the history would absolutely confirm what I am saying.
If you want to know about delivery times in the UK then look at hxxp://www.consumerfocus.org.uk/assets/6/files/2010/08. /First_Class_Mail_....Next_Working_Day_Service.pdf
Unless he is on one of the very remote and sparsely populate islands off the coast of Scotland then the statistic of 96% delivery within 2 days applies. Maybe he is - in which case I will be the first to apologize.
But please read through his feedback carefully - at least one other person has waited 5 days in UK and received nothing.
If the guy is legit then what exactly is he complaining about? He's already had nearly 60 orders. He's done very well indeed out of his first week on Silk Road. It's all been out of Escrow and nobody has received anything - so could he blame us for saying to people 'just cool it, wait a few days, make sure people receive before ordering any more'. If he's legit then all that will happen is by end of next week everyone will change their feedback to positive, this thread will be singing his praises (led by me) and he will have more business than he can handle. He will have lost orders for a total of what? 3 or 4 days? Would that be a good enough reason to throw a hissy fit, diss me and 'fuck the site'?
If he's for a real then he'll respond to the situation like an adult - maybe getting a little frustrated that his good intentions should be so quickly misinterpreted, but taking it in good humor, and allowing things to settle down and for all the praise to come his way once his rep is established. If he's not for real then I have no doubt that he is well pissed off to see his scam go down after such a short time...
I HOPE HE IS FOR REAL - I really do.
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i sent a message to him asking if he sent my order but no answer.
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I have a feeling this is gonna turn into a new gummystars thread hahahah xD
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im so FUCKING FED UP WITH THIS SHIT!! >:( >:( :-[ :o :'(
FUCK!
BAD FUCKING KARMA COMING YOUR WAY IF YOU SCAM PEOPLE FOR VITAMIN L.
BAD FUCKING KARMA.
bah!
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Damn, I wish I saw this thread before I ordered from him. The feedback system really sucks. Why should a seller whose feedback is 98% made of people finalizing early have a rating of over 90? That isn't worth anything . . . I really thought this guy was a legit vendor but I guess I was mislead.
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A good rule of thumb is to never order out of escrow for someone whose shipments haven't been confirmed on the forum, unless they have 250+ transactions.
That said, I haven't given up on Amsterdam24 (I haven't purchased but I will if a few people receive & review here) for 2 reasons:
-He canceled his items while he still had good feedback
-It's been a bank/mail holiday, and can you really expect mail to be delivered in 2 days with christmas/new years rush?
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I'm still giving the benefit of the doubt - doing the christmas/new year postage maths (in the UK), the earliest I could have received the package was this morning. Certainly by tomorrow morning it should be here.
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if you try to send a private message he don't answer, i doubt he sent the orders.
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I knew he was kinda fishy! When I had asked him to post a picture of the back of the sheets he just stopped posting altogether.
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my only 12BTC to this sleasy piece of shit.
karma is fucking right.
itll come to bite that motherfucker in the ass. HARD.
i doubt hell ever have a nice trip again 8)
if anyone out there feels that they need a good deed for the day... i could sure use a single hit.
will do the same for someone else in the future :'(
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Did anyone else get harassed by the guy to finalize early or else he would cancel your order? He straight up sent me three messages in quick shorthand that he was going to cancel my order in an hour if I didn't finalize. Thinking he was legit(doh!) I finalized. Oh well, there goes a couple of bucks I could have used on somebody legit.
Amsterdam24, please prove us all wrong and send out the orders. I hope I'm wrong about all of this.
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Hi all, first time posting in the forums but after 2 consecutive bad experiences on SR, I thought it's time to get involved.
Ordered from amsterdam24 on the 24th (the same day I ordered from another seller located in another part of the EU), but haven't received anything from him. The other order arrived sooner than expected (3-4 working days), so I'd find it hard to accept the delay has anything to do with Xmas/New year post issues. When I contacted him, he told me to wait until Monday the 2nd, and if nothing had arrived he'd resend with some extra for the trouble. It's now Wednesday, and nothing's arrived, no love letters, no 'sorry you weren't in' cards - nothing
Sadly, most of the evidence is pointing to this being a scam. I guess I'm one of the lucky ones as he didn't ask me to finalize early so the money is still in escrow, but does anyone know what SR's policy is for this kind of thing? Can I expect a full refund if it is a scam?
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If your money is still in escrow you should be able to get it all back..
Just make sure to contact SR. I already have, and they are working on a solution.
Looks like we've all been duped guys. Yet another reason to read the forums and keep eyes OPEN! :o
Watch out for a few reviews of mine this week, will legitimize a few new domestic cid vendors and hopefully quell the storm that amsterdam24 has created.. there are legit good people out there. :)
J
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Thanks jtemp, have contacted SR now.
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I'm still giving the benefit of the doubt - doing the christmas/new year postage maths (in the UK), the earliest I could have received the package was this morning. Certainly by tomorrow morning it should be here.
Nothing in the post this morning, looks like it was a scam. Shame.
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Double shame bro.. :-[
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Does anyone else think that after this fiasco Silk Road should implement some sort of fraud prevention mechanism?
I mean, when I ordered from Amsterdam24 he had a 98% rating... That's just kind of ridiculous that when you finalize early the seller gets a 5 out of 5 rating...
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I mean, when I ordered from Amsterdam24 he had a 98% rating... That's just kind of ridiculous that when you finalize early the seller gets a 5 out of 5 rating...
When you finalize early you can choose what the rating is. People choose to put 5 out of 5. I've seen people put 1 out of 5 and 3 out of 5 when they finalize early. But the scammers HATE when you do that, even legit vendors. But a scammer will probably just say "Fuck you" and cancel you rorder. Or just keep your money, ya know whatever.
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SCAMMER
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People need to stop finalizing early with untrusted vendors...and 2-4 good reviews doesn't mean trusted, btw. I know this asshole made atleast one of my customers switch to him. Sorry dudes :/
I will be offering more LEGIT & TESTED 250mcg freddie's soon :)
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I recommend everyone finalizing early use a 3/5 feedback, with a note saying "3/5 for early finalize - will update when product is received".
Sellers have been taking advantage of the front-loading of the ranking and feedback system to build a scamming repetiore. It goes like this. Sign up, lurk for a bit, write up a post in the forums about how you are starting to sell such and such, and is anyone interested. Post on some other posts to get some forum numbers up.
Next step is to acquire a small amount of the product you are interested in. Get yourself 5 or 10 customers who you make a sweet sample offering to, ship the product out and wait a week or two until they receive. Make sure they post in your forum thread that they have received and like your product. Once that's done, open up the floodgates. Ask for early finalization. Most buyers input 5/5 on early finalize for some reason. All of this front-loaded 5/5 feedback goes through, plus the dollar volume of the transactions counts towards seller rank, so you can actually end up with a 1-month seller grabbing himself a top-20 rank because a bunch of people jump on board for the sale and volume is high for this month.
Stretch this out for 2 weeks or so until your first customers should start receiving. In the meantime maybe you've got 100 or more orders worth of BTC sitting there and you are sitting pretty on 5 or 10 grand in cash. No product is sent. Buyers are out, but can't do anything, and it FINALLY comes out in the forums that the seller is in fact a full-blown scammer. In the meantime dozens if not hundreds of buyers have been cleanly ripped off without a chance at any recourse and are left feeling burned. This especially pisses me off as a long-time seller on SR (I think I'm actually the oldest weed seller now) in good standing, because a lot of those BTC could be going to me and you guys could actually be getting product - so indirectly I have a personal stake in this one, as selfish as it may sound, which works in your favour becuase I want these dickless pieces of shit that give you guys the runaround right the fuck off of here.
How you, as a buyer, can responsibly mitigate this. Simple: Leave a 3/5 feedback on an early finalize and update once you have received. MAKE SURE YOU UPDATE IF YOU DO RECEIVE. Good, reliable sellers seem to be rarer and rarer these days, and you don't want to burn bridges if this person is actually legitimate and providing you product. On the flip side, make sure you update to 1/5 if you don't receive so it damages the rank that much further. by leaving a 3/5 you will stop a seller from hop-skipping up the rank ladder with a bunch of bogus feedback and dollar volume, which will make buyers at LEAST think twice about taking the chance.
In my opinion, a seller really needs to earn their place here, and anyone with less than 100 transactions shouldn't be even thinking about requiring early finalize. I didn't start offering out of escrow until after 100 transactions.
If you do leave a 3/5 and your seller gives you a hassle (threatens not to ship), copy the message to me either on here or to me over on SR and I will call them out on the forums. We don't have time for any more bullshit these days - there's too much to lose with the outside threats constantly waiting in the wings without the infighting and damage caused by assholes. Let's take them head on.
Finally, I am NOT saying amsterdam is a scammer. I haven't looked the situation or actually talked to anyone who has done business with him (successfully or otherwises), so I have no judgement to make. I'm just saying that I'm seeing a pattern these days, and people need to start acting in a way that hampers the rampant scamming that has been going on. This money that is being stolen from you buyers is your blood and sweat, and I don't want to see it lifted lightly. I'd rather it come my way and let me work for it then fill some asshole's pockets for empty promises and some momentum in the stats.
Those are my (apparently much more than) 0.02 BTC on this situation, and any other similar ones. Take pre-emptive action, it will pay off for you personally, and for the community as a whole.
Anarcho47
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So do I get to say 'I told you so' yet?
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So do I get to say 'I told you so' yet?
hahaha :-[
asshole.
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So do I get to say 'I told you so' yet?
hahaha :-[
asshole.
Hey I got burned too - I ordered for a friend against my better judgment.
Guess I should say I told US so...sigh....
But if I hadn't done that and called scam as soon as it was obvious, then this thing would probably have gone on for another week and a lot more people would have lost out.
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Well,ok...OUCH!!THAT HURTS!FUCKER!!..What can i say? He had a good deal,and i guess we all are suckers for good deals..well i guess i Learned my fucking lesson. STICK WITH ESTABLISHED VENDORS FRIENDS!
NOW!,there are two new vendors for cid! BraveFriend & Familyforever..i dunno..reminiscent? LETS HOPE NOT!
stay safe friends....
BP
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sigh....sucks to read YET another thread about a motha fuckin LSD scammer again. I think Anarcho is right on about leaving 3/5 feedback on new vendors asking to finalize early. That's how gummystars and others were able to keep hooking more fish with that shiny 100 rating. Best thing is don't finalize early and stay in escrow....
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Jesus not again. :(
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Jesus not again. :(
Funny thing is, I bet at least 50% of us fell for the GummyStars scam as well.
Learned my lesson, I now refuse to go OOE with anyone.
Unless of course you happen to be DopeBoy or Anarcho :)
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Fuck man I was hoping :/
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yes lightfoot... early catch was nice, you have a good eye.
psh.. not going wrong with MITANOX this time ;D
50 for 43BTC... cannot go wrong. period.
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It looks like his sellers account has been deleted. Most likely he took all of his BTC out of the account so it's long gone.
To think... I was about to buy the Fat Freddy's from davidd and then I saw amsterdam24 had them for cheaper... Only go with trusted vendors.
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yes lightfoot... early catch was nice, you have a good eye.
Thanks man...