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Market => Product requests => Topic started by: fearedtoast on December 21, 2011, 11:13 pm

Title: Selling liquor on Silk Road?
Post by: fearedtoast on December 21, 2011, 11:13 pm
Hey y'all, just a quick thought.  Why hasn't anyone sold liquor on the Silk Road?  If I could buy everclear or other high-proof alcoholic beverages then I most certainly would, as I'm sure that there are plenty of others using the site too young to purchase alcohol.  Also, given that the real form of absinthe is still illegal in the US, it'd be awesome if I could just order some internationally.

Again, it's probably a dumb question more pertaining to the practices of postal/customs security rather than a demand unfulfilled by supply.  I just don't want to go through the troubles of having a fake ID made and the risk of getting called on it. 

I know that there are various "intoxicants" listed on SR, but for the most part they seem to just be GHB and GBL.  I actually like GBL, but it's a little weird to take to social events, and the thought of buying GHB feels a little dirty to me (I know it's not just a date rape drug, but still... :/)

So what do you guys think?  Any chance of somebody putting up everclear or grain alcohol on SR?  I mean, if you can buy packs of cigarettes...

Edit: I just noticed that there's "pint of real moonshine" up in intoxicants.  I do like vicious86 a lot for his paraphenalia, but I'm more looking for something that my mates and I can mix with vitamin water and ground benzos (love that combo), carry around in a flask, etc.  Smirnoff would be awesome.
Title: Re: Selling liquor on Silk Road?
Post by: mrgrey on December 21, 2011, 11:40 pm
benzos and everclear! sounds like a brilliant idea ;)
Title: Re: Selling liquor on Silk Road?
Post by: madamebradley on December 21, 2011, 11:44 pm
benzos and everclear! sounds like a brilliant idea ;)

Takes you to a hospital faster than an ambulance.
Title: Re: Selling liquor on Silk Road?
Post by: anarcho47 on December 22, 2011, 12:38 am
benzos and everclear! sounds like a brilliant idea ;)

Takes you to a hospital faster than an ambulance.

rofl.

I have been debating doing some moonshining up here in Canada.  It's federally illegal, and all alcohol sales are 100% monopolized by my fucking provincial government.  Ergo, a 40 of Smirnoff is about $35.00, high end stuff runs up to $100.00 for a 40. 

I can get a still shipped in piece lots up to Canada for about 10k US that I could put out 100 bottles + per day with.  It's something I have been mulling.  at $10.00 a forty for a 35% - 40% vodka, it might be worth it....
Title: Re: Selling liquor on Silk Road?
Post by: queryox on December 22, 2011, 01:14 am
I never knew buying alchohol was such a problem in america, go into pretty much most european stores and if you look vaguely 16 youll get served, anyway just different cultures.

I get absinthe quite alot, well any "liquor" you want, but shipping that stuff would be heavy.
Title: Re: Selling liquor on Silk Road?
Post by: fearedtoast on December 22, 2011, 01:27 am
Hehe, nah, not even a flock of teens is that dumb (or at least not MY flock.)  Benzos have directly and indirectly led me to the county jail and emergency room respectively, so me and my mates hold to the rule of 5 (i.e. don't let your shots of vodka and mg of xanax combined go over 5.) 
Still stupid, but hey, living past 20 is for losers anyway ;D
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rofl.

I have been debating doing some moonshining up here in Canada.  It's federally illegal, and all alcohol sales are 100% monopolized by my fucking provincial government.  Ergo, a 40 of Smirnoff is about $35.00, high end stuff runs up to $100.00 for a 40. 

I can get a still shipped in piece lots up to Canada for about 10k US that I could put out 100 bottles + per day with.  It's something I have been mulling.  at $10.00 a forty for a 35% - 40% vodka, it might be worth it....
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Thanks for the informative post! 
If I could pay for a reasonably priced 40 of 80 proof vodka delivered to my door, especially if bulk discounts came into play, then I would most definitely be up for it.  How much would you estimate a USA consumer might end up paying for a 40 delivered to his door?
Title: Re: Selling liquor on Silk Road?
Post by: fearedtoast on December 22, 2011, 01:35 am
I never knew buying alchohol was such a problem in america, go into pretty much most european stores and if you look vaguely 16 youll get served, anyway just different cultures.

I get absinthe quite alot, well any "liquor" you want, but shipping that stuff would be heavy.

That's because you EU dwellers know what's up.  Teach kids how to not get fucked up or in trouble with alcohol, and THEN let them get a driver's license a few years afterwards.  I know I'm generalizing over the many countries contained by the EU, but it frustrates me that I can legally die for my country four years before I can legally buy a beer.

It really depends where you are...  Pretty much every town has a gas station or two that'll look the other way if you flash your ID and don't make a fuss (especially if you have a girl with ya who can flash a bit of cleave for the guy) but you aren't even supposed to be allowed inside of a liquor store if you're under 21 :/. 

Like I said, it's not a huge deal, but I think it'd be nice to have some high-proof liquor delivered to my pad, especially in bulk.  I've always wanted to try legit absinthe too.  The one that you can buy here doesn't have the wormwood stuff in it or something.  How do you like it?
Title: Re: Selling liquor on Silk Road?
Post by: anarcho47 on December 22, 2011, 01:36 am
I have no idea.  It's something I have been mulling over.  It's federally illegal to make liquor of any kind in Canada, and federally and provincially illegal to selll any liquor you have produced yourself unless you are a "brew your own" shop, in which case you are just selling the service of brewing.  Considering how cheaply it can be made in high quality if you have the operation, it's a major profit gig.

It is not on my list of immediate priorities at the moment.  The biggest thing I am trying to do is track down some >150ug LSD to sell on here as there is insane demand, my rep is as solid as they come, and it's a win-win for customers and me because I'm sourcing to undercut :)

Don't tell anyone though.  Otherwise I'll get like 500 messages just like the last time I posted a forum topic gauging interest (obviously, the minimalist way of describing the interest would be "substantial").  If it happens I"ll be throwing a forum party :)

Anarcho47
Title: Re: Selling liquor on Silk Road?
Post by: arutha on December 22, 2011, 01:50 pm
There has been alcohol on here before, its just not very common because its really easy to buy pretty much anywhere in the world and expensive/pain in the arse to ship from here. Don't worry about fake ID, make friends with someone of legal age.

Some of the more exotic stuff like everclear and absinthe should definitely have a market on here, but again the problem is shipping and trying to slip it through customs.
Title: Re: Selling liquor on Silk Road?
Post by: thisisatest on December 27, 2011, 05:25 am
Like most have said... the market for people looking to buy liquor is pretty small compared to the market for any other substance.  Also shipping a bottle of booze is more expensive/pain in the ass than shipping an envelope of pills or nugget. 

If you are willing to pay a high mark up over retail price I'm sure someone with a vendor's account would be willing to go to the liquor store, buy a bottle of everclear, and then ship it to you for a profit.
Title: Re: Selling liquor on Silk Road?
Post by: bowlerperson on December 27, 2011, 05:27 am
There has been alcohol on here before, its just not very common because its really easy to buy pretty much anywhere in the world and expensive/pain in the arse to ship from here. Don't worry about fake ID, make friends with someone of legal age.

Some of the more exotic stuff like everclear and absinthe should definitely have a market on here, but again the problem is shipping and trying to slip it through customs.
While I have tried to understand the USPS laws on alcohol I am still in the dark. Liquids are not uncommon to be sent through USPS, but have to marked on the out side according to the web site. From what i read any alcohol is illegal to send through USPS but not Fedex or UPS. From what I read about UPS is that they will ship up to 70% alcohol from a licensed wine shop or so on to someone who must sign and be 21. It's UPS code that you can't ask what specifically is in the package besides if it's a liquid. What would be the best method for shipping some 180 proof Appalachia moonshine? OR maybe some 90 proof so the yippies can drink it?
Title: Re: Selling liquor on Silk Road?
Post by: arutha on December 29, 2011, 04:07 am
There has been alcohol on here before, its just not very common because its really easy to buy pretty much anywhere in the world and expensive/pain in the arse to ship from here. Don't worry about fake ID, make friends with someone of legal age.

Some of the more exotic stuff like everclear and absinthe should definitely have a market on here, but again the problem is shipping and trying to slip it through customs.
While I have tried to understand the USPS laws on alcohol I am still in the dark. Liquids are not uncommon to be sent through USPS, but have to marked on the out side according to the web site. From what i read any alcohol is illegal to send through USPS but not Fedex or UPS. From what I read about UPS is that they will ship up to 70% alcohol from a licensed wine shop or so on to someone who must sign and be 21. It's UPS code that you can't ask what specifically is in the package besides if it's a liquid. What would be the best method for shipping some 180 proof Appalachia moonshine? OR maybe some 90 proof so the yippies can drink it?

I don't know how you would ship it successfully.. I suppose the best way would be to disguise it as a liquid that is considered legal and safe to ship, and something that logically would be shipped. For example, no one is going to order a bottle of water. Maybe even make the packaging look like it is from a fake company.
Make it look like a sex product (personal lube etc.) and there is an excuse for fairly discrete and plain packaging. :P
Title: Re: Selling liquor on Silk Road?
Post by: Christy Nugs on December 31, 2011, 03:35 am
It is called distillation. duck duck go.....If u can braise copper - u r there. not hard. we do it here in cali all the time.
Title: Re: Selling liquor on Silk Road?
Post by: tordemon on January 14, 2012, 08:24 pm
I would really appreciate both everclear (over 180-proof, hopefully higher) and absinthe. Both are illegal where I live; I'd want one for use in extractions and such and another just for drinking. (I bet you can't guess which is which.)

As far as shipping, I'd suggest filling a different container with the product. Ie, astro-lab ships GBL in rim-cleaner bottles. I'd prefer that someone not use non-empty bottles because of poisoning risks. Or you could fill an amber vial with it and label it as something else. But I think the fuller the container, the better, because there'll be less sloshing. Preventing leaks will also be important. (Though this may not be terribly important; when I got the GBL there was tons of sloshing, and I didn't have problems.)

But, seriously, if somebody is going to list either of those, please let me know!