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Title: Bogus Cannabis Vendors: milehighmedicine & TimeTraveler
Post by: paratracker on November 08, 2011, 11:17 am
Recently placed an order with milehighmedicine for Durban Poison and another order with TimeTraveler for Trainwreck.  Received two packages from Colorado on the same day, identically packaged, looking and smelling absolutely identical, but neither having a marijuana smell or any trichromes.  Contacted milehighmedicine about the Durban Poison order and he told me I must be referring to an order from another vendor because the order he found for my screen name was Trainwreck.  He couldn't know about the Trainwreck order if he wasn't also TimeTraveler.  It's the same guy, shipping the same bogus herb, packed the same way, using the same shipping method, originating from zip codes within 15 miles of each other in relatively remote central Colorado.  Don't waste your time thinking you're getting first class cultivars, it's herbal smoke you could buy in a tobacco store.
Title: Re: Bogus Cannabis Vendors: milehighmedicine & TimeTraveler
Post by: b0lixtrader on November 08, 2011, 05:05 pm
What a shame, can anyone else fill in on this?
Title: Re: Bogus Cannabis Vendors: milehighmedicine & TimeTraveler
Post by: uniwiz on November 08, 2011, 05:40 pm
Somethings up. We know TT is a legit vendor, slow, and has his fault but a good vendor none the less.

This is the 2nd complaint in two days that makes no sense.

Anybody talking to TT?
Title: Re: Bogus Cannabis Vendors: milehighmedicine & TimeTraveler
Post by: sharetheroad on November 08, 2011, 05:51 pm
dear angry competitor,

if you're going to talk shit about a fellow vendor, at least do them the courtesy of actually purchasing the product so you can leave bogus feedback to collaborate the slander you post on the forums with your newbie account.

imo, this is just another domestic cannabis vendor who is upset that these two are curb stomping all over their ridiculously priced wares.

love,
STR
Title: Re: Bogus Cannabis Vendors: milehighmedicine & TimeTraveler
Post by: listentothemusic on November 08, 2011, 06:24 pm
Hmmm. Id like to know more on this issue.
Title: Re: Bogus Cannabis Vendors: milehighmedicine & TimeTraveler
Post by: b0lixtrader on November 08, 2011, 06:40 pm
There seems to be more and more possibly other competitors trying to put down other vendors so they can't make good reputation.
Title: Re: Bogus Cannabis Vendors: milehighmedicine & TimeTraveler
Post by: uniwiz on November 08, 2011, 07:02 pm
Hmmm. Id like to know more on this issue.
I'd interested in why?
This nothing but bad trouble.
Somebody is pulling something, let's get to the bottom of it.

Milehigh is really new, TT is not.
I give a fair chance for him to to read this and give his opinion on it.
I owe him that much respect, same as you my fair lady.

Uniwiz
Title: Re: Bogus Cannabis Vendors: milehighmedicine & TimeTraveler
Post by: listentothemusic on November 08, 2011, 07:11 pm
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I owe him that much respect, same as you my fair lady.
Oh i wasnt accusing anyone. This kind of dumb shit is happening all to often here now on SR.
Good vendor has one customer who is heart set on fucking with him, i have plenty of people who try this shit on me.

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Recently placed an order with milehighmedicine for Durban Poison and another order with TimeTraveler for Trainwreck.  Received two packages from Colorado on the same day, identically packaged, looking and smelling absolutely identical, but neither having a marijuana smell or any trichromes. 
Any chance sent a double order and you still havent received the one from MHM?

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Contacted milehighmedicine about the Durban Poison order and he told me I must be referring to an order from another vendor because the order he found for my screen name was Trainwreck.  He couldn't know about the Trainwreck order if he wasn't also TimeTraveler.
This is the only weird bit, do you have a screenshot that says an order from MHM for Durban?
 
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It's the same guy, shipping the same bogus herb, packed the same way, using the same shipping method, originating from zip codes within 15 miles of each other in relatively remote central Colorado.  Don't waste your time thinking you're getting first class cultivars, it's herbal smoke you could buy in a tobacco store.
You should understand most of the Denver Metro/Suburb area is very small.
15 miles is already on the other side of denver.
The most post offices could be apart is about 40 miles, unless they live in the mountains.
Title: Re: Bogus Cannabis Vendors: milehighmedicine & TimeTraveler
Post by: uniwiz on November 08, 2011, 08:01 pm
You know if Your were "SR's most official Queen", I might be nicer to you :D
All good points, my finest weed selling bitch.
Yea we are going to nip this in the bud, so to speak.

Hopefully TT and Milehigh can speak for themselves.
Title: Re: Bogus Cannabis Vendors: milehighmedicine & TimeTraveler
Post by: milehighmedicine on November 09, 2011, 04:05 am
Notice how paratracker didn't handle things.

He didn't put the item  in dispute , upload pictures of the product in question, or come to the forums and ask someone else to check out the product.

No instead he went directly after attacking both me and my husband as viciously as possible.

I think you can do the math.

I tell you what paratracker, if my product is so fake, why don't you post it here for all to see, then, why don't you take it down the local police station and ask them what they think it is.   How on earth do you think I have so much positive feedback shipping "bogus" herb?  Either your blatantly malicious , competition, or your just plain a someone who doesn't know very much about marijuana. 

My husband doesn't care to comment, basically told me that the forums are a place where people go to have an orgy of paranoia, and that debating with idiots only makes things worse.  For what its worth, if paratracker still thinks his pot is fake after consulting with a few people who can say, recognize pot, then he should pursue the moderated resolution process, but i think the way he has dealt with it says enough about his intentions.
 
MHM
Title: Re: Bogus Cannabis Vendors: milehighmedicine & TimeTraveler
Post by: jackstraw on November 09, 2011, 05:11 am
This thread is what seems bogus to me.........
Title: Re: Bogus Cannabis Vendors: milehighmedicine & TimeTraveler
Post by: paratracker on November 09, 2011, 06:04 am
I'm not a vendor.  Can't discount the thread on that score.

I borrowed a high resolution camera, took a shot and attached a small excerpt per milehigh's 'request'.  Can see something vaguely reflective (THC crystals?) on a sample bud, though not what you'd expect from either Durban Poison or Train Wreck.   

Compare the attached pic to this Durban Poison pic:  http://urbandispensary.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/durban-poison-6.jpg.

Smokes the same as before - it's THC free.  If you're not sending bogus herb, maybe the feds are substituting harmless herbal smoke for the real thing you're supposedly sending out.

Still have:  1) why Durban Poison should look and smell identical to Train Wreck.  2) Why neither smell as described in their respective strain reviews. Both smell like some sort of sage, not like any MJ I've ever encountered.

People saying TimeTraveler is slow but well regarded.  Orders placed together.  Packages arrived the same day.  Figured one was from TimeTraveler and the other was from milehigh.   If TiimeTraveler is slow but well regarded, it could be that the Train Wreck order is still in enqueued and milehigh mistakenly fulfilled the Durban Poison order twice.  Unlikely if inventory was actually worth $300+ per ounce, but seems more likely if inventory is worthless herbal tobacco substitute.
Title: Re: Bogus Cannabis Vendors: milehighmedicine & TimeTraveler
Post by: milehighmedicine on November 09, 2011, 07:51 am
Yes, that crystally , clearly marijuana goodness is , clearly not pot!

This is embarrassing for you. 

Thanks for posting that picture, this will clear alot up for everyone.  I feel no more need to continue defending myself.
Title: Re: Bogus Cannabis Vendors: milehighmedicine & TimeTraveler
Post by: paratracker on November 09, 2011, 08:25 am
That pic is taken at high magnification and looks NOTHING like the reference Durban Poison pic I mentioned above.  You can clearly see crystals there.  Here you can only see something vaguely reflective, maybe the buds were dusted somehow.  Also leaves don't look like MJ leaves; still smells like sage, not MJ; and it has no head (or body) effects when smoked.  Good to know that you're feeling good about it.

This is sage:  http://anbanet.com/plants/image/sage-herb.jpg

That's what the leaves look like.
Title: Re: Bogus Cannabis Vendors: milehighmedicine & TimeTraveler
Post by: freddieisdead on November 09, 2011, 08:37 am
I wish I had some of that bud.  Are you inhaling? ;)
Title: Re: Bogus Cannabis Vendors: milehighmedicine & TimeTraveler
Post by: SRTRAVLER on November 09, 2011, 10:53 am
this guy is retarded
Title: Re: Bogus Cannabis Vendors: milehighmedicine & TimeTraveler
Post by: Bob Arctor on November 09, 2011, 11:00 am
So milehighmedicine & TimeTraveler are working together? I wonder what's the idea behind two seller accounts. As for two strains looking exactly the same, maybe they sent you same stuff by mistake?
OP, are you experienced cannabis user? I mean, if this is first time you're smoking weed it's natural you're not feeling anything. This happens to lots of people.

It would be interesting to hear from someone else you has purchased any of these strains from them.
Title: Re: Bogus Cannabis Vendors: milehighmedicine & TimeTraveler
Post by: microRNA on November 09, 2011, 11:09 am
I should have an order coming in the next day or two and I will definitely put up a review, although it is a different strain. I am definitely hopeful though... there have already been a good number of positive reviews.
Title: Re: Bogus Cannabis Vendors: milehighmedicine & TimeTraveler
Post by: paratracker on November 09, 2011, 11:59 am
I've been smoking on and off for 35 years - have smoked cheap roadside weed and some of the gourmet stuff.  I'd be amazed to find someone that was unaffected by the real Durban Poison or Train Wreck - they'd have to have something wrong with their nervous system.  Was hoping I was ordering from two different vendors - wanted to see if one had better stuff than another.  Ended up learning something about a vendor, but not the relative info I thought I'd be getting.
Title: Re: Bogus Cannabis Vendors: milehighmedicine & TimeTraveler
Post by: friendlyoutlaw on November 09, 2011, 03:03 pm
I ordered from TimeTraveler once...and I got a bag of scrap. I finalized, gave him a 2/5, and emailed him. No response.

I've seen other people claim on the forums that they ordered two strains from him and got identical stuff. To be fair, many people do seem to be satisfied with him.

However, he's on my personal "do not buy from" list, so I don't think it's completely out of the realm of possibility for this person to have had this happen to them. From this thread, it seems pretty clear that MHM and TT are married.

That, however, makes me think MHM is just TT trying to start a new profile that isn't rated so low. Call me a skeptic. But I'm staying away from the whole thing.
Title: Re: Bogus Cannabis Vendors: milehighmedicine & TimeTraveler
Post by: microRNA on November 10, 2011, 11:33 am
As expected my package arrived today. Which I think busts the TT is MHM theory since TT clearly states he may take up to however long he feels like to get the package shipped and this one arrived only 4 business days later. Also, people have complained of smell from TT parcels and this packaging was very secure and well sealed. Very discrete shipping method. I received the purple haze. The quality itself is fairly good. It looks great, but the smell is nothing impressive. I was searching for the intense purp flavor which is mild because the earthy haze is dominant but still enjoyable. The buzz is what is awesome about it. Very potent with a decent duration. I did have a minor issue with my order but messaged MHM and quickly received a satisfactory response. Planning to try more strains from MHM in the future!
Title: Re: Bogus Cannabis Vendors: milehighmedicine & TimeTraveler
Post by: uniwiz on November 10, 2011, 03:38 pm
I ordered from TimeTraveler once...and I got a bag of scrap. I finalized, gave him a 2/5, and emailed him. No response.

I've seen other people claim on the forums that they ordered two strains from him and got identical stuff. To be fair, many people do seem to be satisfied with him.

However, he's on my personal "do not buy from" list, so I don't think it's completely out of the realm of possibility for this person to have had this happen to them. From this thread, it seems pretty clear that MHM and TT are married.

That, however, makes me think MHM is just TT trying to start a new profile that isn't rated so low. Call me a skeptic. But I'm staying away from the whole thing.

I might buy that explanation.
Milehigh did contact me and explained they do work together.
What that relationship is, is none of my business.

This thread is total bullshit. We have opinion of quality and service, but the both sell THC cannabis, not fake weed.

Mod please lock or delete this thread!!!
Title: Re: Bogus Cannabis Vendors: milehighmedicine & TimeTraveler
Post by: paratracker on November 11, 2011, 05:42 pm
This is most definitely not a bogus thread.  I will certainly follow the resolution process when the Resolve link enables... but this thread was meant to share what I learned with the community at an early stage, hopefully saving others from having to go through the resolution process.   FYI, I volunteered to send Admin the herb that I received from milehigh and TimeTraveler, thus enabling SR to make an evaluation independent of opinions, past performance, or hearsay.  There isn't even any risk associated with mailing the stuff because it contains no THC!  Naturally, SR would rather not do that since they'd have to share an address - can't blame them for that.  TT and MHM advertise award winning cultivars which have published strain reviews that include pictures and descriptions of smell and taste, so why are they identical and why don't they smell like the strain reviews say they should smell???
Title: Re: Bogus Cannabis Vendors: milehighmedicine & TimeTraveler
Post by: listentothemusic on November 12, 2011, 01:51 am
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There isn't even any risk associated with mailing the stuff because it contains no THC! 
Ill pay for the testing.
Title: Re: Bogus Cannabis Vendors: milehighmedicine & TimeTraveler
Post by: Brezner on November 12, 2011, 03:34 am
I would love to find out the verdict on this debacle.  Truly is discouraging, depressing, and downright heartbreaking that there is so much animosity in the realm of trees.  Tree smokers are supposed to be happy ENTs that take care of each other.  Whether vendor or buyer is at fault here, someone is being shady and they don't deserve to smoke trees.  Please let me know how this turns out so I can make a personal note of who never to come across.
Title: Re: Bogus Cannabis Vendors: milehighmedicine & TimeTraveler
Post by: Bob Arctor on November 12, 2011, 03:45 am
I'm afraid in the end the argument that paratracker sent different stuff or that LTTM is covering TT could be made, and the testing wouldn't prove much..
Title: Re: Bogus Cannabis Vendors: milehighmedicine & TimeTraveler
Post by: Brezner on November 12, 2011, 03:51 am
You'd think this much hate and slander would exist between cocaine or opioid vendors/buyers.  Yet the community of cocaine users and vendors is stellar.  Everyone gets along well   :o
Title: Re: Bogus Cannabis Vendors: milehighmedicine & TimeTraveler
Post by: listentothemusic on November 12, 2011, 07:15 am
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ENTs that take care of each other
Pineapples for you.

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I'm afraid in the end the argument that paratracker sent different stuff or that LTTM is covering TT could be made, and the testing wouldn't prove much..
I dont have to cover for any other vendor than myself, and I do that a lot as is.
The only reason I'd offer testing is because no vendor deserves to be treated like a lot of us are, and each deserves there chance to prove their innocence, or guilt.
Title: Re: Bogus Cannabis Vendors: milehighmedicine & TimeTraveler
Post by: paratracker on November 13, 2011, 09:11 am
FYI, there is absolutely no animosity, slander, hatred or any other emotion or underhanded motive involved - I bought items that didn't just mildly disappoint, they weren't even what they claimed to be - neither roadside weed nor the image or smell of the renowned strains advertised and despite being two distinct strains, the 'products' I received look and smell identical.  Thought others should know about that.  I'd love to see S.R. succeed, but two out of three orders turning out to be bogus product doesn't make me feel warm and fuzzy about my shopping experience here, despite the resolution process built in.  Third order in transit from distant place, so jury still out there.

Obviously, there's a need for a provably independent third party testing facility available to the community; maybe random sampling would be beneficial.
Title: Re: Bogus Cannabis Vendors: milehighmedicine & TimeTraveler
Post by: milehighmedicine on November 13, 2011, 10:33 am
Paratracker,

I see you have taken down the picture you admitted that you yourself took of my product.

Anyone that got to see that picture could tell it was pot. YOU are the one that is BOGUS.

Post the original back up.  If your going to come out here and talk this shit about me and my husband im sure anyone would agree that the community deserves to SEE what you have claimed is fake.  People already saw it, but EVERYONE who is going to take your word for it deserves to see it.

I am completely confident those that know what pot looks like will be able to know from looking at it that you are full of shit.

Now please post back up the picture of the product you took, and posted here, of what you said you got in the mail.  It destroys your claims.
Title: Re: Bogus Cannabis Vendors: milehighmedicine & TimeTraveler
Post by: uniwiz on November 13, 2011, 10:47 am
The thread is bogus and should be deleted.
If any of you vendors think you would get just one poster bitching about "fake pot", better think a little harder.
As buyers we will bag in your SR ratings and on these forums.
Do you think we are complete morons?
Unless your selectively scamming, no one would get away with selling bad weed.

So poster exposed TT and MH are related.
Do I f'ing care?
Ok I care TT is one slow ass when shipping, and MH is not.

Here the deal VENDORS just sell us good cannabis and we will be nice to you.

I swear I'll find the vendor pulling this BS.
So basically Paratacker, FO!!!
Screw the trolls.
Title: Re: Bogus Cannabis Vendors: milehighmedicine & TimeTraveler
Post by: listentothemusic on November 13, 2011, 04:34 pm
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I swear I'll find the vendor pulling this BS.

In all honesty I think a vendor would come up with a better idea other than "the pot was fake" lol.
Title: Re: Bogus Cannabis Vendors: milehighmedicine & TimeTraveler
Post by: uniwiz on November 13, 2011, 06:00 pm
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I swear I'll find the vendor pulling this BS.

In all honesty I think a vendor would come up with a better idea other than "the pot was fake" lol.
LTTM I am not the only forum user with this opinion.
You will admit that if one of the vendor was shipping synthetic weed  there would be more than one person complaining about it.
It would also show up in the SR reviews as well.
There would be the biggest shit storm since the last L2Q episode.

The trolling MO is getting to be familiar as well.

So?
Are you calling me disingenuous?
Why would any competing vendor want this thread to continue?
It's certainly not in the buyers best interest bull shit threads like these continue.
It should be deleted, or locked.

There are plenty of cannabis vendors. All this user need to do is find another.
May I suggest LTTM she has a piece of paper this comes with each order, proving there at least some THC in the product.
Oh wait, wasn't their somebody bitching certain info was being dropped from that paper?
Now that was a clever piece of flying shit.
Don't put anything past people. Buyers or Vendors.

Please by all means continue.
Title: Re: Bogus Cannabis Vendors: milehighmedicine & TimeTraveler
Post by: listentothemusic on November 14, 2011, 04:05 am
Uniwiz, You always think im against you for some reason. I am not.
You simply misunderstood me.

I meant I dont think paratracker is a vendor, a customer which may have had his order messed up by MHM/Timetraveler. His account was made a month prior to MHM showing up on SR. I would say that this was an attack from another vendor, but the fact the MHM admits to working with Timetraveler gives this story some background. If this was just a strike against MHM it would have been as so, but the fact they bought from both vendors, and they admit they work together makes me think that it is a customer who had his order botched and was upset. Im not saying MHM sent synthetic bud, rather that the order was messed up.

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There are plenty of cannabis vendors. All this user need to do is find another.
May I suggest LTTM she has a piece of paper this comes with each order, proving there at least some THC in the product.
Oh wait, wasn't their somebody bitching certain info was being dropped from that paper?
Now that was a clever piece of flying shit.
Don't put anything past people. Buyers or Vendors.

Ive been trying to defend MHM here, offering to even pay to have MHM's herb tested.
I obviously know paratracker is a fucking idiot, and I did see the picture he originally posted, and it def. was pot.
Title: Re: Bogus Cannabis Vendors: milehighmedicine & TimeTraveler
Post by: milehighmedicine on November 14, 2011, 01:03 pm
Paratracker put each of his items on both of our family's account into resolution.

He persisted in the claim that the product is sage.  When i asked him to reveal the pictures of the pot that he took himself of my product to the moderator he quickly ran like a little bitch, accepting 0% refund on both my account and my husbands and then proceeded to post the following feedback to both of our accounts:

"The picture I posted has not been removed, it has been there since Nov 9th post. There are no crystals on the material (THC or other); but a non-specular white dust might fool a casual observer. It's probably sage - certainly no independent third party certify it as Durban Poison. It doesn't smell like D.P.; doesn't smoke like pot. If you really sent D.P., then the DEA has discovered you -  is opening your packages and replacing your D.P. with bogus pot while building case against you and your recipients. Watch your back"

Its pretty clear why he decided to say THAT.

Like I said, malicious intent, from the start. 

This guy is so full of shit, he saw the reaction you all had here, but choose to ignore the blatant reality that what he got is indeed pot , that anyone who knows pot can look at that picture and tell it.  You can clearly see the trichomes all over it, its not even remotely the same shades similar to sage.  Its clearly not dusted, or whatever fucking next lie he has to tell all of us. 

there HAS to be some kind of culpability here on silkroad for falsely claiming a DEA investigation.  If this guy did this on my forum/site,  I would Ban his ass.  He has been full of shit from the start, continuing his lies even while the crowd is laughing at him. The way how he went about the whole thing speaks for itself.
 
Its incredibly clear to me he choose to leave the feedback only in an attempt to try to damage me and has no actual bearing on reality, on what he received, and that he knows that and choose to follow this course anyway.

Like i said in the resolution process - worst customer ever.     

I'm not too worried about it though, I have pretty impeccable feedback aside from it.

MHM
Title: Re: Bogus Cannabis Vendors: milehighmedicine & TimeTraveler
Post by: uniwiz on November 14, 2011, 01:38 pm
Uniwiz, You always think im against you for some reason. I am not.
You simply misunderstood me.

LTTM,

I misunderstand your form of sarcasm.  (Which I seem to do I lot ;))
Doesn't mean I don't respect you.
I apologize. I realized afterward I was being hard on you for no reason.
Hey keep vending, and being one of our finest vendors.

Milehigh,

We all agree, problem solved.

We get these periodic BS attack threads.
These trolls need to get the message we will all stick together.

I would be more interested in your product, and shipping methods, and how customers feel about that.
Your SR reviews look good.
Title: Re: Bogus Cannabis Vendors: milehighmedicine & TimeTraveler
Post by: paratracker on November 15, 2011, 02:19 pm
FYI, I never removed the pic  - it's still there in a Nov 9th post for all to see.  I have also posted the full image at:
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/843/13586486.jpg/   At first blush, it looks like there might be tiny crystals on the leaves, but when you zoom in, it's some sort of white dust, not specular like crystals should be.

Also, I didn't accept a $0.00 refund, nor did I retreat.  Further, I'll happily return the bogus MJ I received so you can resell it to another victim.  If you maintain that it's not bogus, you'll gladly accept the return and refund my purchase properly.  What's your idea of a 'good' customer?  One who accepts whatever you send without objective consideration?  One who will lie about the great product they received in order to get a refund.  Why in Hell would I request a refund if the product was as advertised?

If your feedback is positive, it's because of the terms you demand - essentially buyers must assent that it was all just a big mix-up and give you a 5 rating in order to get their refund.  That's how you've been able to maintain the 'stellar' reputation.  If the rating were based on how quickly the shipment arrived or how professionally it had been packaged, I'd certainly give MHM and TT 5's across the board, but I think the material should be a much larger factor in the rating, thus giving you a 1/5 for which you refunded me $0.00.

People can't rely on feedback that is the result of extortion.  I'm not going to give you a 5/5 in order to get the refund deserved.  I've been truthful and honest - volunteered to submit the material to independent testing by Admin and just recently posted a high resolution image for additional consideration.  Not sure what else I can do to justify my position.
Title: Re: Bogus Cannabis Vendors: milehighmedicine & TimeTraveler
Post by: paratracker on November 16, 2011, 06:16 am
Don't want the stuff back, apparently.  Some resolution process - thanks so much... just screwed out of ~$180.
Title: Re: Bogus Cannabis Vendors: milehighmedicine & TimeTraveler
Post by: sharetheroad on November 16, 2011, 07:04 am
Don't want the stuff back, apparently.  Some resolution process - thanks so much... just screwed out of ~$180.

lol @ u
Title: Re: Bogus Cannabis Vendors: milehighmedicine & TimeTraveler
Post by: paratracker on November 16, 2011, 11:23 am
I guess that's the whole point isn't it - fuck the customer, discredit anyone attempting to forewarn would-be victims; laugh all the way to the bank.  I'm out $180 for bogus herb.  Learned that vendor reputations are meaningless; might as well be pissing cash into the wind.  Even if it comes back to you, it's not going to feel righteous.  Wish you guys would really deliver on the promise of a venue like Silk Road where prohibition is thwarted and people can trade successfully.  Stand up, do the right thing, accept my return, refund my purchase price.
Title: Re: Bogus Cannabis Vendors: milehighmedicine & TimeTraveler
Post by: atlas on November 16, 2011, 11:40 am
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Stand up, accept my return, refund my purchase price.

You think this is Amazon pal?
Title: Re: Bogus Cannabis Vendors: milehighmedicine & TimeTraveler
Post by: paratracker on November 16, 2011, 11:56 am
Maybe not Amazon, but I was hoping for an honest exchange - the cash provided from my side was real enough; expected to receive Durban Poison and Train Wreck in return, not identically sage smelling, non-psychoactive herbal smoke.  Thought I was agreeing to 100% refund in the resolution process, apparently was agreeing that the issue had been resolved even though no refund had yet been issued.  Now MHM and TT triumph that I backed off, running away with tail between legs.  I have no reason to run off embarased.  I'm a newbie, not a competing vendor.  Didn't know how the resolution page worked.  If I was a competing vendor intent upon sullying the reputation of MHM and/or TT, wouldn't you think that I'd know how to work the resolution process?  Or do you just chalk that up as yet another sign of a fantastically brilliant competing vendor masquerading as a newbie buyer?
Title: Re: Bogus Cannabis Vendors: milehighmedicine & TimeTraveler
Post by: friendlyoutlaw on November 16, 2011, 01:08 pm
Here is my take on this.

I do not believe they sold him "fake" bud. It would be impossible for them to get away with that.

I do believe they sold him shitty bud...because I've had TT sell me shitty bud the one time I purchased from him. I have also seen allegations that all of his strains are really just marketing and he has one big bag of weed that gets sold from (and furthermore that it's scrap buds that the dispensaries in Colorado can't sell). This thread suggests that MHM is selling from that same supply, leading one to suppose that MHM is just an attempt by TT to sell his same weed for higher prices under a name with a higher reputation.

The buyer gains a lot of credibility for alleging that MHM and TT are working together...and having that turn out to be true. That was not known before this thread.

So: I believe he received the same weed from both parties. However, I believe everybody who ordered from them at that time also received that weed. Somebody else would have said something if it was fake. It was probably lower grade than Paratracker was expecting, and perhaps he strayed from his valid complaints in anger in suggesting that it's fake, as he felt scammed by getting the same low quality bud from two (seemingly) separate vendors.

Also, from reading this forum since it went live, I have noticed a pattern. When people are making bogus claims against a vendor, they tend to give up relatively quickly. This guy is determined to reveal that he feels he was taken advantage of. He would have been better served to be less emotional and provide stronger evidence (or not gone to the step of claiming fake weed, which is hard to swallow), but I have a hard time completely dismissing him.
Title: Re: Bogus Cannabis Vendors: milehighmedicine & TimeTraveler
Post by: GaltRR on November 16, 2011, 07:07 pm
First of all weed genetics are FAR from accurate. I can grow some OG kush and rename it what ever I want. Trainwreck in CO is way different than trainwreck in CA. Understand that. Second there is no reason to sell fake weed when your in CO. Do you have any idea how easy it is to get? You can make an appointment for the doctor for some BS reason, and be buying weed the exact same day. Weed in CO is cheap as well, you can pick up premo Ounces for 150-175, fake weed is more expensive in CO. As for it being shit quality, thats the only issue I see. Because if you cant come buy good weed in colorado you should not be a vendor.
Title: Re: Bogus Cannabis Vendors: milehighmedicine & TimeTraveler
Post by: uniwiz on November 16, 2011, 08:32 pm
Here is my take on this.

I do not believe they sold him "fake" bud. It would be impossible for them to get away with that.

I do believe they sold him shitty bud...because I've had TT sell me shitty bud the one time I purchased from him. I have also seen allegations that all of his strains are really just marketing and he has one big bag of weed that gets sold from (and furthermore that it's scrap buds that the dispensaries in Colorado can't sell). This thread suggests that MHM is selling from that same supply, leading one to suppose that MHM is just an attempt by TT to sell his same weed for higher prices under a name with a higher reputation.

The buyer gains a lot of credibility for alleging that MHM and TT are working together...and having that turn out to be true. That was not known before this thread.

So: I believe he received the same weed from both parties. However, I believe everybody who ordered from them at that time also received that weed. Somebody else would have said something if it was fake. It was probably lower grade than Paratracker was expecting, and perhaps he strayed from his valid complaints in anger in suggesting that it's fake, as he felt scammed by getting the same low quality bud from two (seemingly) separate vendors.

Also, from reading this forum since it went live, I have noticed a pattern. When people are making bogus claims against a vendor, they tend to give up relatively quickly. This guy is determined to reveal that he feels he was taken advantage of. He would have been better served to be less emotional and provide stronger evidence (or not gone to the step of claiming fake weed, which is hard to swallow), but I have a hard time completely dismissing him.

Pretty good take.
Mine is one vendor knows that MHM and TT are working together or the same person.
They want to out them. Fine. My prediction is that vendor is in CO as well.
As far as quality weed, I don't rate TT  5/5 for a reason, and MHM is too new, and on their way to a 5/5
We are talking a few 8's, Spacequeen screwed me out of an oz. Get over it.
Telling us there is no THC in the product that it's just fake gas station weed is pretty lame.
The post count and what he has post more then gives it away.
If you going to pull this BS, write a few good reviews then slam somebody.
We are got to watch our backs, and if he even had a clue I'd support him so wouldn't SR.
This was an outing. Ok MHM amd TT are the same, and you don't like the weed.
Again end of story. Settle in escrow, rate them appropriately.
Title: Re: Bogus Cannabis Vendors: milehighmedicine & TimeTraveler
Post by: 98080678 on November 17, 2011, 05:06 am
My take:

Definitely not fake bud - I have ordered from both - was not thrilled with the wetness of both products. Clearly this thread has established that they are connected which is worth while knowing. However, it should be dropped there. Def not fake product. This dude trying to get an addy to return the product seeemmms sketch as all get out. If I were LE thatd be the type scam i'd try to pull. Taunt a vendor into giving me an address and then coming down on whoever received it.  My .02 BTC

oh and as a side note - to all of you trick haters keep LTTM name out your mouth like you don't know her.
Title: Re: Bogus Cannabis Vendors: milehighmedicine & TimeTraveler
Post by: gelomish on November 17, 2011, 07:15 am
Timetraveler is legit.  His product has impressed many people I know.  His packages always arrive quickly and last along time.  I find it appalling that we have these kinds of threads for perfectly legitimate sellers.  If you don't like the product, thats another thing, but the product defiantly arrives and is just as advertised.
Title: Re: Bogus Cannabis Vendors: milehighmedicine & TimeTraveler
Post by: paratracker on November 21, 2011, 01:02 am
When I originally checked out Silk Road cannabis vendors, TimeTraveler was located in Canada, but when the order arrived, it was from Colorado.  My intent was to sample three suppliers from three countries to see where the best bud was coming from, maybe get a handle on best value too.  Somehow, TimeTraveler turned out to be from the U.S., essentially the same source as MHM, while the South Africa order is still Lost in Space after 17 days.  Is that be enough time to get to the Midwest US from So Africa?

Anyway, the jury still out on So Africa, but it's looking like no package and/or worthless product three times out of three - a statistically significant result that isn't just bad news for me, it's bad news for buyers in general.
Title: Re: Bogus Cannabis Vendors: milehighmedicine & TimeTraveler
Post by: doobiebros on November 21, 2011, 04:09 am
Paratracker,

I have ordered from swazibud, milehighmedicine, and timetraveller. I received all products. The ISS from milehighmedicine had to be cured further but once it was cured, it was very potent.  Timetravellers power kush rips your head off and was well received by my friends.  The swazibud's only complaint was that it was so flattened but it still gets you stoned and nicely.

I would order from all 3 again in a heartbeat. 
Title: Re: Bogus Cannabis Vendors: milehighmedicine & TimeTraveler
Post by: paratracker on November 21, 2011, 04:21 pm
The TT/MHM herb was ready to smoke, not wet, just not worth the package it was sent in..  No sign of the Swazi package - a complete unknown.
Title: Re: Bogus Cannabis Vendors: milehighmedicine & TimeTraveler
Post by: ms262 on December 09, 2011, 09:21 pm
I ordered 7g of Acadian mushrooms as well as 14g of White Rhino bud on 11/18/11. I finalized the deal in good faith since I was a new customer at the time. I received the mushrooms on 12/1/11 and ate them with good results on 12/7/11. Although I am still waiting on the White Rhino and have had no communication with the seller. The last message I received was that both packages would ship a week after thanksgiving and here I am today. Any suggestions on how I should proceed?

Best
ms262
Title: Re: Bogus Cannabis Vendors: milehighmedicine & TimeTraveler
Post by: anarcho47 on December 10, 2011, 03:26 am
You ordered Canadian bud from someone other than me?

Let me enlighten you as to why the best buds on earth come from where I live and play.
Title: Re: Bogus Cannabis Vendors: milehighmedicine & TimeTraveler
Post by: Brezner on December 10, 2011, 04:08 am
+1 to Anarcho.  I look nowhere else for my Jack Herer needs.  Everyone of my friends absolutely agrees it's fanfuckintastic
Title: Re: Bogus Cannabis Vendors: milehighmedicine & TimeTraveler
Post by: anarcho47 on December 10, 2011, 04:53 am
And speaking of that... if your friends are interested in more, my holiday sale is still on until tomorow - 10% off and free shipping!  Anywhere!  (Buy some as a gift for distant relatives, or even send some to Santa)
Title: Re: Bogus Cannabis Vendors: milehighmedicine & TimeTraveler
Post by: uniwiz on December 10, 2011, 03:17 pm
What a nice way to hijack a thread that needed it ')

Yep A47 you got some kick ass bud.
TT never came from CA, he/she was always US based.

Any of the CA vendors, A47, Mr Ouid, and Redgreen all sell high quality bud.
As well as many US vendors.

If you had 3 out of 3 failures, you are doing something wrong.
I wouldn't have started with any packages needing customs.
Read the FAQ about missing packages.

Anyhow I still think you are full of shit, but agree A47 has some damn good weed you are missing;)
I am not, inhale, smoke, exhale, buzz.
Title: Re: Bogus Cannabis Vendors: milehighmedicine & TimeTraveler
Post by: ms262 on December 10, 2011, 09:02 pm
I spoke with MHM and it seems like things are going to work out. Thanks for the advice all!
Title: Re: Bogus Cannabis Vendors: milehighmedicine & TimeTraveler
Post by: substance on December 10, 2011, 10:20 pm
I didnt get high the first time i smoked weed either.
also if the weed was cured improperly it wont smell like marijuana.
leaves that grow out of the buds dont look like pot leaves all the time.

im sorry but SR is not for you.
Title: Re: Bogus Cannabis Vendors: milehighmedicine & TimeTraveler
Post by: SRTRAVLER on December 10, 2011, 11:11 pm
i bought his white rhino and it was real weed, just very low quality weed.  He also sold me fake acid blotter
Title: Re: Bogus Cannabis Vendors: milehighmedicine & TimeTraveler
Post by: oppyate on December 11, 2011, 01:14 am
Other Than Opiates, my 2nd Fav is Good Weed. I eyeball lots of the varieties from Milehigh, but Pricing seems a little on the High Side. I have Purchased "brick weed" as advertised by Vanillasmoke and it was very good for Brick Weed as well as properly priced, abut $190. I bought some High end stuff from SR Discount Pharmacy and it was Primo! Full Ounce, as well as well Priced at about $200 given BC's Value at the time. Not trying to Hi-Jack the Thread, but I can not justify to my Reasoning Buying full ounces at over 250-280! I havnt Purchased from MileHigh, the pics and descriptions sound/look wonderful! My issue is just cost. All that being said, if MH & TT are selling very good Chronic/Weed, then they have right to give it or name it whatever they want. I'm just a cheap bastard and have found very good weed here on SR at under $250.
Title: Re: Bogus Cannabis Vendors: milehighmedicine & TimeTraveler
Post by: CapitalG on December 27, 2011, 06:34 am
I ordered from MileHighMedicine and have had nothing but trouble from them. I wrote about the problem, you can read about it here: http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=7645

I advise you steer clear of MHM. Bad news.
Title: Re: Bogus Cannabis Vendors: milehighmedicine & TimeTraveler
Post by: Drunk N High on January 17, 2012, 01:19 am
It is weed. I have spoken. Thread closed.
Title: Re: Bogus Cannabis Vendors: milehighmedicine & TimeTraveler
Post by: uniwiz on January 17, 2012, 02:10 am
We have plenty of better vendors, quality, price, and service.
Check the list in the sticky.

Move along.


Thread closed.
Title: Re: Bogus Cannabis Vendors: milehighmedicine & TimeTraveler
Post by: Aliahad on January 17, 2012, 02:32 am
Thread closed.
Can you... do that?
Title: Re: Bogus Cannabis Vendors: milehighmedicine & TimeTraveler
Post by: tordemon on January 17, 2012, 03:25 am
Boy am I glad I don't enjoy Marijuana that much. I can avoid this dipshittery. =]